On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 2:19:01 PM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 5:07:40 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 2:02:14 PM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 4:25:13 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 1:23:02 PM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > >
> > > > By the way Flunky - https://www.mizzima.com/article/lawyers-expose-alleged-covid-19-fraud-and-vaccine-danger
> > > By the way shitferbrains https://medika.life/reiner-fuellmich-fact-checked-and-exposed-as-a-covid-conspiracy-con/
> > >
> > > Fuellmich is a conman just like your god trump.
> > Tell us how you would know a conman? You are a mindless queer that cannot stand to be shown for what he is. So your entire life revolves around lying about anything and everything. Go suck off your boyfriend.
> Anyone with half a brain can see these conmen. you can't. You wouldn't know a lie from a campagnolo non-stretch shifter cable. Go suck off trump you old closeted homo.
With tears falling out of your eyes that you and your Democrat tyrants are about to reap the rewards of lying.

On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 5:29:17 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 2:15:49 PM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 5:04:54 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > So tell me, when even ABC agrees with me why are you lying through your teeth? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey79eeyBS14
> > And? that clip is a report that trump fast tracked the vaccine development. Did I ever claim he didn't? No. You seem to think Trump feels the same way about the vaccines that you do. he doesn't. You're beeing a baaaad little trumpette, sparky....
> No, you never SAID that he didn't fast track the vaccines, you only said,
> "you wrote: "Trump put the vaccines on the fast track and so HE DID help develop them you idiot."
> Was that supposed to mean you were agreeing with me but couldn't bring yourself to say so?

I'm agreeing with the truth,which is that the trump administration ran Operation Warp Speed. Funny how you never criticized that move, but keep spouting off how the pandemic is fake even though your god trump says otherwise.

> You are so full of shit that even your boyfriend can't get near you.
> When are you getting your sex change operation so that you can look like a man as well as act like one?

Oh gee, this is funny - which is it tommy, am I a closeted gay man, or am I a closeted trans women looking for a sex change operation to look like a man? Wow, your so smart, you can't even keep your insults straight. Time for your meds sparky.

On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 5:30:38 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 2:19:01 PM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 5:07:40 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 2:02:14 PM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail..com wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 4:25:13 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 1:23:02 PM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > By the way Flunky - https://www.mizzima.com/article/lawyers-expose-alleged-covid-19-fraud-and-vaccine-danger
> > > > By the way shitferbrains https://medika.life/reiner-fuellmich-fact-checked-and-exposed-as-a-covid-conspiracy-con/
> > > >
> > > > Fuellmich is a conman just like your god trump.
> > > Tell us how you would know a conman? You are a mindless queer that cannot stand to be shown for what he is. So your entire life revolves around lying about anything and everything. Go suck off your boyfriend.
> > Anyone with half a brain can see these conmen. you can't. You wouldn't know a lie from a campagnolo non-stretch shifter cable. Go suck off trump you old closeted homo.
> With tears falling out of your eyes that you and your Democrat tyrants are about to reap the rewards of lying.
oooh tommy, tell how we democrats are going to reap these rewards of 'lying' - especially when the lies are all coming from you. Tell us again how the CDC banned the use of PCR because you wrote them a letter and said they were wrong, or how the 'excess deaths from covid ' webpage only shows 7 thousand excess deaths. Your hits just keep comin' sparky!

On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 10:23:00 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 1:55:50 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 6:13:28 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> > On 2/8/2022 5:49 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> > > Trump put the vaccines on the fast track and so HE DID help develop them you idiot.
>> > In related news, Al Gore DID invent the internet! :-)
>> >
>> > I'm joking, of course. As with the "Swift Boating" of Kerry, that was a
>> > fabrication by Gore's opponents.
>> > See https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/internet-of-lies/ )
>> One of the signs of a complete ass is someone who uses "fact check" sites to "prove" things he doesn't know about. https://www.newsbusters.org/fact-checkers shows a large array of the fact checkers outright lying because it is their political belief rather than the truth. When Trump was President I watched him say something completely and then watched fucking liars like you repeat the Slime Stream Media claims that he said something else. What did you prove your damned lies with? Factcheck.com who also repeated the fucking lies. This is your entire life Frank. To follow the creed of Goebbels - If you tell a large enough lie enough times, it becomes the truth. You are nothing more than the NAZI you have shown yourself to be. Now why don't you tell us that NAZI's weren't communists when both are socialists or rather tyrants like you want this world to live under? I wonder what it feels like to not give a damn what you say about others.
>
>speaking of a brat having a temper tantrum....

No! No! Don't you realize that everything Tommy says is a "proven
fact"? Why, just ask him and he'll tell you. "Yes sir! Right here in
my Resume!"

Like the "fact that the German "Nazi" party was Communist. Yes Sir,
like all of Tommy's statements. A "proven" fact!

Perhaps we should refer these "proven" facts the dribble down from
Tommy's tongue like snot from a runny nose as "Tommyisms".

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Cheers,

John B.

On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 13:30:37 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 2/10/2022 1:23 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 1:55:50 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 6:13:28 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>> On 2/8/2022 5:49 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>> Trump put the vaccines on the fast track and so HE DID help develop them you idiot.
>>>> In related news, Al Gore DID invent the internet! :-)
>>>>
>>>> I'm joking, of course. As with the "Swift Boating" of Kerry, that was a
>>>> fabrication by Gore's opponents.
>>>> See https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/internet-of-lies/ )
>>> One of the signs of a complete ass is someone who uses "fact check" sites to "prove" things he doesn't know about. https://www.newsbusters.org/fact-checkers shows a large array of the fact checkers outright lying because it is their political belief rather than the truth. When Trump was President I watched him say something completely and then watched fucking liars like you repeat the Slime Stream Media claims that he said something else. What did you prove your damned lies with? Factcheck.com who also repeated the fucking lies. This is your entire life Frank. To follow the creed of Goebbels - If you tell a large enough lie enough times, it becomes the truth. You are nothing more than the NAZI you have shown yourself to be. Now why don't you tell us that NAZI's weren't communists when both are socialists or rather tyrants like you want this world to live under? I wonder what it feels like to not give a damn what you say about others.
>>
>> speaking of a brat having a temper tantrum....
>
>Tom's problem is not just the fact checkers. It's much deeper than that.
>
>Reality itself is obviously biased against Tom.

As Tommy proves, the tale of Walter Mitty, obviously is based on fact
(:-)
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Cheers,

John B.

On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 10:53:05 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 10:18:08 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 9:12:37 PM UTC-8, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:33:30 PM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > Really, it is time to wake up and smell the coffee. 900,000 extra deaths would fill graveyards with funeral services,
>> > https://fox59.com/news/eskenazi-using-refrigerated-truck-to-store-the-dead-as-covid-19-hospitalizations-reach-record-levels/
>> > https://ktla.com/news/local-news/refrigerated-trucks-arrive-in-l-a-as-bodies-pile-up-at-hospital-morgues-amid-rising-covid-19-death-toll/
>> > https://www.wsj.com/articles/nyc-dead-stay-in-freezer-trucks-set-up-during-spring-covid-19-surge-11606050000
>> > https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-07/national-guard-refrigerated-trucks-help-manage-covid-deaths
>> > https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-new-york/bodies-found-in-unrefrigerated-trucks-in-new-york-during-covid-19-pandemic-idUSKBN22C0E3
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3NoR2k_H0U
>> > https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/26/nyregion/frozen-bodies-coronavirus-brooklyn.html
>> > https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-hospitals-refrigerated-coolers-stories-bodies-morgues-are-full-2021-8
>> > https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/oregon/articles/2021-08-28/oregon-counties-request-trucks-for-bodies-as-deaths-climb
>> > https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2021/09/03/capital-regional-meidcal-center-coronavirus-covid-tallahassee-tmh-deaths-hospital/5712600001/
>> > https://www.kgw.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/cowlitz-county-morgue-truck-covid-deaths/283-69c8508f-f237-4019-a3c6-134210d00423
>> > https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-arizona-coronavirus-deaths-refrigerated-trucks-morgues/
>> > https://nationalpost.com/news/world/texas-brings-in-refrigerated-trucks-to-store-dead-u-s-shatters-single-day-record-for-coronavirus-cases
>> >
>> > Dead bodies from Covid were being stored in refrigeration trucks in all states. Los Angeles, New York City, Oregon, Florida, Texas, Indiana, Tennessee, etc. Everywhere. As for filling graveyards with funeral services, during the Covid rush, there were no public gatherings allowed so no funerals took place. Only immediate next of kin attended funerals. No big mass wakes of everyone and anyone showing up at the funeral home for the viewing. Limited to no viewing and only immediate family at funerals.
>> Russy baby, considering that the average age of death of covid-19 patients is 82 and with between one and eight comorbidities you sure must believe that your world is full of old people that require refrigerator trucks to contain the bodies. Apparently there is no end to the lies that you will believe.
>
>Of course tommy provides nothing to support his claim that none of these deaths really happened (other than his complete misinterpretation of the CDC "excess deaths" webpage).

But, but, but! Look here, don't you realize that Tommy is the very
epitome of veracity and every dribble from his lips is seized upon by
the multitudes as though it were carved on tablets of stone. Why, I'm
sure that even now there is a temple being erected to house Tommy's
mutterings as even his vaunted Resume is now no longer large enough to
contain them all.
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Cheers,

John B.

On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 13:25:11 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 1:23:02 PM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 10:53:08 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 10:18:08 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 9:12:37 PM UTC-8, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> > > > On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:33:30 PM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > > > Really, it is time to wake up and smell the coffee. 900,000 extra deaths would fill graveyards with funeral services,
>> > > > https://fox59.com/news/eskenazi-using-refrigerated-truck-to-store-the-dead-as-covid-19-hospitalizations-reach-record-levels/
>> > > > https://ktla.com/news/local-news/refrigerated-trucks-arrive-in-l-a-as-bodies-pile-up-at-hospital-morgues-amid-rising-covid-19-death-toll/
>> > > > https://www.wsj.com/articles/nyc-dead-stay-in-freezer-trucks-set-up-during-spring-covid-19-surge-11606050000
>> > > > https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-07/national-guard-refrigerated-trucks-help-manage-covid-deaths
>> > > > https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-new-york/bodies-found-in-unrefrigerated-trucks-in-new-york-during-covid-19-pandemic-idUSKBN22C0E3
>> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3NoR2k_H0U
>> > > > https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/26/nyregion/frozen-bodies-coronavirus-brooklyn.html
>> > > > https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-hospitals-refrigerated-coolers-stories-bodies-morgues-are-full-2021-8
>> > > > https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/oregon/articles/2021-08-28/oregon-counties-request-trucks-for-bodies-as-deaths-climb
>> > > > https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2021/09/03/capital-regional-meidcal-center-coronavirus-covid-tallahassee-tmh-deaths-hospital/5712600001/
>> > > > https://www.kgw.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/cowlitz-county-morgue-truck-covid-deaths/283-69c8508f-f237-4019-a3c6-134210d00423
>> > > > https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-arizona-coronavirus-deaths-refrigerated-trucks-morgues/
>> > > > https://nationalpost.com/news/world/texas-brings-in-refrigerated-trucks-to-store-dead-u-s-shatters-single-day-record-for-coronavirus-cases
>> > > >
>> > > > Dead bodies from Covid were being stored in refrigeration trucks in all states. Los Angeles, New York City, Oregon, Florida, Texas, Indiana, Tennessee, etc. Everywhere. As for filling graveyards with funeral services, during the Covid rush, there were no public gatherings allowed so no funerals took place. Only immediate next of kin attended funerals. No big mass wakes of everyone and anyone showing up at the funeral home for the viewing. Limited to no viewing and only immediate family at funerals.
>> > > Russy baby, considering that the average age of death of covid-19 patients is 82 and with between one and eight comorbidities you sure must believe that your world is full of old people that require refrigerator trucks to contain the bodies. Apparently there is no end to the lies that you will believe.
>> > Of course tommy provides nothing to support his claim that none of these deaths really happened (other than his complete misinterpretation of the CDC "excess deaths" webpage).
>> I'm misinterpreting a page that says, "Total number of deaths above average since 2/1/2020, by cause of death" which then shows the number to be 7100 in two years. Does it hurt for you to be so stupid?
>
>By the way Flunky - https://www.mizzima.com/article/lawyers-expose-alleged-covid-19-fraud-and-vaccine-danger

Yes Sir! But Look!
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2021/09/fact-check-reiner-fuellmich-does-not-reveal-new-evidence-for-debunked-claims.html
Says, in simple terms that good old Fuellmich's claims, are, to be
brutally clear, Bull shit!

So tommy is spreading the brown stuff.... again.

By the way, the lack of capitalization in tommy's name is deliberate
as I consider him as being about the same level as those lumps of
"brown stuff" one sees laying on the street in a neighborhood where
dogs abound.

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Cheers,

John B.

On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 14:02:16 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 1:49:55 PM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 4:13:01 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 10:36:59 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> > > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 1:30:40 PM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> > > > On 2/10/2022 1:23 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> > > > > On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 1:55:50 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > > >> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 6:13:28 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> > > > >>> On 2/8/2022 5:49 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> > > > >>>> Trump put the vaccines on the fast track and so HE DID help develop them you idiot.
>> > > > >>> In related news, Al Gore DID invent the internet! :-)
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> I'm joking, of course. As with the "Swift Boating" of Kerry, that was a
>> > > > >>> fabrication by Gore's opponents.
>> > > > >>> See https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/internet-of-lies/ )
>> > > > >> One of the signs of a complete ass is someone who uses "fact check" sites to "prove" things he doesn't know about. https://www.newsbusters.org/fact-checkers shows a large array of the fact checkers outright lying because it is their political belief rather than the truth. When Trump was President I watched him say something completely and then watched fucking liars like you repeat the Slime Stream Media claims that he said something else. What did you prove your damned lies with? Factcheck.com who also repeated the fucking lies. This is your entire life Frank. To follow the creed of Goebbels - If you tell a large enough lie enough times, it becomes the truth. You are nothing more than the NAZI you have shown yourself to be. Now why don't you tell us that NAZI's weren't communists when both are socialists or rather tyrants like you want this world to live under? I wonder what it feels like to not give a damn what you say about others.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > speaking of a brat having a temper tantrum....
>> > > > Tom's problem is not just the fact checkers. It's much deeper than that.
>> > > >
>> > > > Reality itself is obviously biased against Tom.
>> > > >
>> > > He still hasn't squared "Trump put the vaccines on the fast track and so HE DID help develop them you idiot. " with his claim that trump said the vaccine was killing more than it saved.
>> > Hey Flunky, you're so screwed up you don't even know what was said by whom about what. Congratulations, no wonder that you can't even manage technicians.
>> You wrote:
>> "Trump put the vaccines on the fast track and so HE DID help develop them you idiot."
>> you also wrote:
>> "Unlike you little mindless followers, Trump has the ability to learn." in response to me posting a link of trump telling people to get the vaccine. (then skulking away when I posted a link showing he said it again 6 weeks ago)
>> You're obviously under the delusion that trump said the vaccines don't work. He said the exact opposite.
>>
>> So, who is it that doesn't know who said what?
>
>Flunky, you simply cannot make yourself look like anything other than the stupid ass you are. Perhaps you'd like to quote where I said that Trump ever turned against the vaccines. You can't because unlike the lies you're spouting what I said was "
>what changed is that Dr. Scott Atlas looked into the REAL hosp0italizations and discovered a sharp lack of deaths. He informed Trump of Fauci's lies and Trump began changing his mind about the danger of a disease with fewer deaths than a seasonal influenza. But don't worry. Even the inventor of mRNA vaccines has said that Fauci is a liar. Do you suppose that is because for every vaccine they sell he gets a percentage so he wants to reduce his income? Or maybe because he knows the possible dangers from mRNA vaccines."
>
>So it turns out that you're indeed the queer that you have been acting like for several years. You haven't any connection with reality and you cannot bring yourself to tell the truth. Go suck off your boyfriend.

Yes Sir! Good old Scott_Atlas

He expressed skepticism that face masks help prevent the spread of the
virus, including in a tweet in October 2020 that Twitter removed after
determining it was not accurate.
Later that day, HHS official Brett Giroir, the Assistant Secretary for
Health, reaffirmed that masks did work to prevent transmission of the
virus.
He argued that only symptomatic individuals should be tested for the
coronavirus, and pushed for the August 24, 2020, change on the Centers
for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) website saying that people
who had been exposed to the virus but showed no symptoms should not be
tested. This position was opposed by many public health experts
including CDC scientists, as 40% of people infected with the virus are
asymptomatic but can still transmit the virus.

He advised that the virus should be allowed to spread naturally among
people deemed at low risk, while protecting the most vulnerable
populations, so as to gain herd immunity. The Washington Post reported
that Atlas was the leading proponent within the Trump administration
for a herd immunity approach to the virus, although some experts
cautioned that such an approach could lead to hundreds of thousands
more American deaths
Atlas later denied that he advocated for the herd immunity strategy,
said "there's never been a desire to have cases spread through the
community," and said it "has never been the president's policy."
However, in October and November 2020, he touted the Great Barrington
Declaration, an open letter that calls for encouraging herd immunity.

I cold go on and on and on, but why bother? After all This guy, "Scott
Atlas" is so obviously a loud mouth that will say anything simply to
get his name in the News.

Somewhat akin to our very own tommy boy.
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Cheers,

John B.

On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 14:07:38 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 2:02:14 PM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 4:25:13 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 1:23:02 PM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> >
>> > By the way Flunky - https://www.mizzima.com/article/lawyers-expose-alleged-covid-19-fraud-and-vaccine-danger
>> By the way shitferbrains https://medika.life/reiner-fuellmich-fact-checked-and-exposed-as-a-covid-conspiracy-con/
>>
>> Fuellmich is a conman just like your god trump.
>
>Tell us how you would know a conman? You are a mindless queer that cannot stand to be shown for what he is. So your entire life revolves around lying about anything and everything. Go suck off your boyfriend.

"Tell us how you would know a conman"??? Why right here on RBT we have
the infamous tommy boy who spouts the wildest stories in an attempt to
con everyone into believing that he knows what he is talking about.
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Cheers,

John B.

On 2/10/2022 4:10 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>
>
> Frank, what would you know about reality? You seem entirely incapable of coming up with any citations on any of the crap that you seem to think you're the expert on.

HA HA HA! Oh, the unintentional irony is thick today! :-)

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- Frank Krygowski

On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 14:07:38 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 2:02:14 PM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 4:25:13 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 1:23:02 PM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> >
>> > By the way Flunky - https://www.mizzima.com/article/lawyers-expose-alleged-covid-19-fraud-and-vaccine-danger
>> By the way shitferbrains https://medika.life/reiner-fuellmich-fact-checked-and-exposed-as-a-covid-conspiracy-con/
>>
>> Fuellmich is a conman just like your god trump.
>
>Tell us how you would know a conman? You are a mindless queer that cannot stand to be shown for what he is. So your entire life revolves around lying about anything and everything. Go suck off your boyfriend.

But tommy, I read that in the United States Queers aren't "queers" any
more. Now. I understand, in a socially correct U.S they are " LGBTQ".

Oh Well, in addition to being a fervent liar we can also chalk tommy
up to being politically (or is it socially) inept
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Cheers,

John B.

On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 18:39:38 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 2/10/2022 4:10 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>
>>
>> Frank, what would you know about reality? You seem entirely incapable of coming up with any citations on any of the crap that you seem to think you're the expert on.
>
>HA HA HA! Oh, the unintentional irony is thick today! :-)

Yes-suree Frank. Just think. If you had just skipped collage and all
that PE foolishness you too could live in a $50,000 house in a slum
where guns are going off all night and you have to peek out of the
window before you dare open the front door after dark, and complain
about the cost of groceries.

What is it they say? "Ignorance is Bliss?"
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Cheers,

John B.

On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:23:02 PM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 10:53:08 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 10:18:08 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 9:12:37 PM UTC-8, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:33:30 PM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > Really, it is time to wake up and smell the coffee. 900,000 extra deaths would fill graveyards with funeral services,
> > > > https://fox59.com/news/eskenazi-using-refrigerated-truck-to-store-the-dead-as-covid-19-hospitalizations-reach-record-levels/
> > > > https://ktla.com/news/local-news/refrigerated-trucks-arrive-in-l-a-as-bodies-pile-up-at-hospital-morgues-amid-rising-covid-19-death-toll/
> > > > https://www.wsj.com/articles/nyc-dead-stay-in-freezer-trucks-set-up-during-spring-covid-19-surge-11606050000
> > > > https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-07/national-guard-refrigerated-trucks-help-manage-covid-deaths
> > > > https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-new-york/bodies-found-in-unrefrigerated-trucks-in-new-york-during-covid-19-pandemic-idUSKBN22C0E3
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3NoR2k_H0U
> > > > https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/26/nyregion/frozen-bodies-coronavirus-brooklyn.html
> > > > https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-hospitals-refrigerated-coolers-stories-bodies-morgues-are-full-2021-8
> > > > https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/oregon/articles/2021-08-28/oregon-counties-request-trucks-for-bodies-as-deaths-climb
> > > > https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2021/09/03/capital-regional-meidcal-center-coronavirus-covid-tallahassee-tmh-deaths-hospital/5712600001/
> > > > https://www.kgw.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/cowlitz-county-morgue-truck-covid-deaths/283-69c8508f-f237-4019-a3c6-134210d00423
> > > > https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-arizona-coronavirus-deaths-refrigerated-trucks-morgues/
> > > > https://nationalpost.com/news/world/texas-brings-in-refrigerated-trucks-to-store-dead-u-s-shatters-single-day-record-for-coronavirus-cases
> > > >
> > > > Dead bodies from Covid were being stored in refrigeration trucks in all states. Los Angeles, New York City, Oregon, Florida, Texas, Indiana, Tennessee, etc. Everywhere. As for filling graveyards with funeral services, during the Covid rush, there were no public gatherings allowed so no funerals took place. Only immediate next of kin attended funerals. No big mass wakes of everyone and anyone showing up at the funeral home for the viewing. Limited to no viewing and only immediate family at funerals.
> > > Russy baby, considering that the average age of death of covid-19 patients is 82 and with between one and eight comorbidities you sure must believe that your world is full of old people that require refrigerator trucks to contain the bodies. Apparently there is no end to the lies that you will believe.
> > Of course tommy provides nothing to support his claim that none of these deaths really happened (other than his complete misinterpretation of the CDC "excess deaths" webpage).
> I'm misinterpreting a page that says, "Total number of deaths above average since 2/1/2020, by cause of death" which then shows the number to be 7100 in two years. Does it hurt for you to be so stupid?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-excess-deaths-during-pandemic-215337856.html

Tommy says 7100 excess deaths in two years. Wahington Post story says more than one million deaths since the start of the Covid pandemic. Who are we going to believe? Tommy or a big major newspaper that has been around since 1877 and won 69 Pulitzer prizes? Tough choice.

On 2/16/2022 6:18 PM, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:23:02 PM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 10:53:08 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 10:18:08 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 9:12:37 PM UTC-8, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:33:30 PM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Really, it is time to wake up and smell the coffee. 900,000 extra deaths would fill graveyards with funeral services,
>>>>> https://fox59.com/news/eskenazi-using-refrigerated-truck-to-store-the-dead-as-covid-19-hospitalizations-reach-record-levels/
>>>>> https://ktla.com/news/local-news/refrigerated-trucks-arrive-in-l-a-as-bodies-pile-up-at-hospital-morgues-amid-rising-covid-19-death-toll/
>>>>> https://www.wsj.com/articles/nyc-dead-stay-in-freezer-trucks-set-up-during-spring-covid-19-surge-11606050000
>>>>> https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-07/national-guard-refrigerated-trucks-help-manage-covid-deaths
>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-new-york/bodies-found-in-unrefrigerated-trucks-in-new-york-during-covid-19-pandemic-idUSKBN22C0E3
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3NoR2k_H0U
>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/26/nyregion/frozen-bodies-coronavirus-brooklyn.html
>>>>> https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-hospitals-refrigerated-coolers-stories-bodies-morgues-are-full-2021-8
>>>>> https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/oregon/articles/2021-08-28/oregon-counties-request-trucks-for-bodies-as-deaths-climb
>>>>> https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2021/09/03/capital-regional-meidcal-center-coronavirus-covid-tallahassee-tmh-deaths-hospital/5712600001/
>>>>> https://www.kgw.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/cowlitz-county-morgue-truck-covid-deaths/283-69c8508f-f237-4019-a3c6-134210d00423
>>>>> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-arizona-coronavirus-deaths-refrigerated-trucks-morgues/
>>>>> https://nationalpost.com/news/world/texas-brings-in-refrigerated-trucks-to-store-dead-u-s-shatters-single-day-record-for-coronavirus-cases
>>>>>
>>>>> Dead bodies from Covid were being stored in refrigeration trucks in all states. Los Angeles, New York City, Oregon, Florida, Texas, Indiana, Tennessee, etc. Everywhere. As for filling graveyards with funeral services, during the Covid rush, there were no public gatherings allowed so no funerals took place. Only immediate next of kin attended funerals. No big mass wakes of everyone and anyone showing up at the funeral home for the viewing. Limited to no viewing and only immediate family at funerals.
>>>> Russy baby, considering that the average age of death of covid-19 patients is 82 and with between one and eight comorbidities you sure must believe that your world is full of old people that require refrigerator trucks to contain the bodies. Apparently there is no end to the lies that you will believe.
>>> Of course tommy provides nothing to support his claim that none of these deaths really happened (other than his complete misinterpretation of the CDC "excess deaths" webpage).
>> I'm misinterpreting a page that says, "Total number of deaths above average since 2/1/2020, by cause of death" which then shows the number to be 7100 in two years. Does it hurt for you to be so stupid?
>
> https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-excess-deaths-during-pandemic-215337856.html
>
> Tommy says 7100 excess deaths in two years. Wahington Post story says more than one million deaths since the start of the Covid pandemic. Who are we going to believe? Tommy or a big major newspaper that has been around since 1877 and won 69 Pulitzer prizes? Tough choice.

Yes, the choice seems obvious. But in Tom's defense, the Washington Post
probably did not know Tom's version of the true death toll. I'm sure if
they only knew his views and his excellent qualifications, they would
immediately reject all other sources of information.

And the CDC, the health departments of every state and every county, and
almost all foreign health officials would soon follow! They'd soon see
everyone's out of step except our little Tommy. :-)

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 6:18:36 PM UTC-5, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:23:02 PM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 10:53:08 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 10:18:08 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 9:12:37 PM UTC-8, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:33:30 PM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > Really, it is time to wake up and smell the coffee. 900,000 extra deaths would fill graveyards with funeral services,
> > > > > https://fox59.com/news/eskenazi-using-refrigerated-truck-to-store-the-dead-as-covid-19-hospitalizations-reach-record-levels/
> > > > > https://ktla.com/news/local-news/refrigerated-trucks-arrive-in-l-a-as-bodies-pile-up-at-hospital-morgues-amid-rising-covid-19-death-toll/
> > > > > https://www.wsj.com/articles/nyc-dead-stay-in-freezer-trucks-set-up-during-spring-covid-19-surge-11606050000
> > > > > https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-07/national-guard-refrigerated-trucks-help-manage-covid-deaths
> > > > > https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-new-york/bodies-found-in-unrefrigerated-trucks-in-new-york-during-covid-19-pandemic-idUSKBN22C0E3
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3NoR2k_H0U
> > > > > https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/26/nyregion/frozen-bodies-coronavirus-brooklyn.html
> > > > > https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-hospitals-refrigerated-coolers-stories-bodies-morgues-are-full-2021-8
> > > > > https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/oregon/articles/2021-08-28/oregon-counties-request-trucks-for-bodies-as-deaths-climb
> > > > > https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2021/09/03/capital-regional-meidcal-center-coronavirus-covid-tallahassee-tmh-deaths-hospital/5712600001/
> > > > > https://www.kgw.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/cowlitz-county-morgue-truck-covid-deaths/283-69c8508f-f237-4019-a3c6-134210d00423
> > > > > https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-arizona-coronavirus-deaths-refrigerated-trucks-morgues/
> > > > > https://nationalpost.com/news/world/texas-brings-in-refrigerated-trucks-to-store-dead-u-s-shatters-single-day-record-for-coronavirus-cases
> > > > >
> > > > > Dead bodies from Covid were being stored in refrigeration trucks in all states. Los Angeles, New York City, Oregon, Florida, Texas, Indiana, Tennessee, etc. Everywhere. As for filling graveyards with funeral services, during the Covid rush, there were no public gatherings allowed so no funerals took place. Only immediate next of kin attended funerals. No big mass wakes of everyone and anyone showing up at the funeral home for the viewing. Limited to no viewing and only immediate family at funerals.
> > > > Russy baby, considering that the average age of death of covid-19 patients is 82 and with between one and eight comorbidities you sure must believe that your world is full of old people that require refrigerator trucks to contain the bodies. Apparently there is no end to the lies that you will believe.
> > > Of course tommy provides nothing to support his claim that none of these deaths really happened (other than his complete misinterpretation of the CDC "excess deaths" webpage).
> > I'm misinterpreting a page that says, "Total number of deaths above average since 2/1/2020, by cause of death" which then shows the number to be 7100 in two years. Does it hurt for you to be so stupid?
> https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-excess-deaths-during-pandemic-215337856.html
>
> Tommy says 7100 excess deaths in two years. Wahington Post story says more than one million deaths since the start of the Covid pandemic. Who are we going to believe? Tommy or a big major newspaper that has been around since 1877 and won 69 Pulitzer prizes? Tough choice.

We _could_ just stick to the source, Russ. Tommy keeps insisting the CDC webpage he lovingly refers to shows only 7100 "excess respiratory deaths", then goes on to claim that Covid is included in "excess respiratory deaths", even though the CDC states Covid is _not_ included in excess respiratory deaths and has a separate section on that same page called "excess deaths from Covid". I'm not sure his deceit is intentional or just a result of stupidity.
"30 round MAGAzines available for visiting gay bath houses" - Tom Kunich

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 1:30:26 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 6:18:36 PM UTC-5, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:23:02 PM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 10:53:08 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 10:18:08 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 9:12:37 PM UTC-8, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:33:30 PM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail..com wrote:
> > > > > > > Really, it is time to wake up and smell the coffee. 900,000 extra deaths would fill graveyards with funeral services,
> > > > > > https://fox59.com/news/eskenazi-using-refrigerated-truck-to-store-the-dead-as-covid-19-hospitalizations-reach-record-levels/
> > > > > > https://ktla.com/news/local-news/refrigerated-trucks-arrive-in-l-a-as-bodies-pile-up-at-hospital-morgues-amid-rising-covid-19-death-toll/
> > > > > > https://www.wsj.com/articles/nyc-dead-stay-in-freezer-trucks-set-up-during-spring-covid-19-surge-11606050000
> > > > > > https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-07/national-guard-refrigerated-trucks-help-manage-covid-deaths
> > > > > > https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-new-york/bodies-found-in-unrefrigerated-trucks-in-new-york-during-covid-19-pandemic-idUSKBN22C0E3
> > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3NoR2k_H0U
> > > > > > https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/26/nyregion/frozen-bodies-coronavirus-brooklyn.html
> > > > > > https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-hospitals-refrigerated-coolers-stories-bodies-morgues-are-full-2021-8
> > > > > > https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/oregon/articles/2021-08-28/oregon-counties-request-trucks-for-bodies-as-deaths-climb
> > > > > > https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2021/09/03/capital-regional-meidcal-center-coronavirus-covid-tallahassee-tmh-deaths-hospital/5712600001/
> > > > > > https://www.kgw.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/cowlitz-county-morgue-truck-covid-deaths/283-69c8508f-f237-4019-a3c6-134210d00423
> > > > > > https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-arizona-coronavirus-deaths-refrigerated-trucks-morgues/
> > > > > > https://nationalpost.com/news/world/texas-brings-in-refrigerated-trucks-to-store-dead-u-s-shatters-single-day-record-for-coronavirus-cases
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dead bodies from Covid were being stored in refrigeration trucks in all states. Los Angeles, New York City, Oregon, Florida, Texas, Indiana, Tennessee, etc. Everywhere. As for filling graveyards with funeral services, during the Covid rush, there were no public gatherings allowed so no funerals took place. Only immediate next of kin attended funerals. No big mass wakes of everyone and anyone showing up at the funeral home for the viewing. Limited to no viewing and only immediate family at funerals.
> > > > > Russy baby, considering that the average age of death of covid-19 patients is 82 and with between one and eight comorbidities you sure must believe that your world is full of old people that require refrigerator trucks to contain the bodies. Apparently there is no end to the lies that you will believe.
> > > > Of course tommy provides nothing to support his claim that none of these deaths really happened (other than his complete misinterpretation of the CDC "excess deaths" webpage).
> > > I'm misinterpreting a page that says, "Total number of deaths above average since 2/1/2020, by cause of death" which then shows the number to be 7100 in two years. Does it hurt for you to be so stupid?
> > https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-excess-deaths-during-pandemic-215337856.html
> >
> > Tommy says 7100 excess deaths in two years. Wahington Post story says more than one million deaths since the start of the Covid pandemic. Who are we going to believe? Tommy or a big major newspaper that has been around since 1877 and won 69 Pulitzer prizes? Tough choice.
> We _could_ just stick to the source, Russ. Tommy keeps insisting the CDC webpage he lovingly refers to shows only 7100 "excess respiratory deaths", then goes on to claim that Covid is included in "excess respiratory deaths", even though the CDC states Covid is _not_ included in excess respiratory deaths and has a separate section on that same page called "excess deaths from Covid". I'm not sure his deceit is intentional or just a result of stupidity.
> "30 round MAGAzines available for visiting gay bath houses" - Tom Kunich

Flunky, you are quite correct that the CDC claims that covid-19 is supposedly not in that accounting of other respiratory disease deaths. But when you look up what they are doing there has several problems - for instance, covid-19 is NOT reported separately. It is reported along with pneumonia. Why is this? Because everyone in old age dies of pneumonia. And how do they detect that people died of pneumonia as a complication of covid-19? By using PCR. And didn't I show you that now even the CDC won't accept PCR as proof of the existence of covid-19? They are calling covid-19 a pandemic despite that the people who supposedly die from it are on the average 5 years older than the average age of death in the US.

So what we have here is the CDC supposedly reporting a form of respiratory disease separately from other forms. But they only report this separate form of respiratory disease with the most common cause of death which is a respiratory disease caused usually by being old and bedridden.

If they want to report covid-19 as a separate respiratory pandemic why wouldn't they report pneumonia as a pandemic since pneumonia with which they haven't shown positive with PCR is 20% larger in numbers?

Here is the problem, "It is important to note that COVID-19 data is collected and reported by a much different standard than all other infectious diseases and causes of death data. This unique standard for COVID-19 was used, despite the existence of guidelines that have been successfully used since 2003 for data collection across all infective, comorbid, and injurious situations.

COVID-19 data is collected and reported based upon the March 24th National Vital Statistics Systems (NVSS) Guidelines and the April 14th CDC adoption of a position paper authored by the Council of State and Territorial Epidemiologists (CSTE). 8,9

However, the data for all other causes of death is based upon the 2003 CDC’s Medical Examiners’ & Coroners’ Handbook on Death Registration and Fetal Death Reporting and the CDC’s Physicians’ Handbook on Medical Certification of Death."

So if you wish to believe that there is a real reason that covid-19 is only reported with pneumonia patients who just happened to test positive using PCR, that the inventor of the chemistry (Nobel Prize winner Dr. Kary Mullis) said could not be used in this manner (Dr. Mullis termed it "abusing" the chemistry) you can, but there is no standing for it.

I've taken great care to use nothing but documented evidence and have not insulted you. So if you are going to debate this back remember that.

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 2:32:52 PM UTC-8, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 1:30:26 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 6:18:36 PM UTC-5, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:23:02 PM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 10:53:08 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 10:18:08 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 9:12:37 PM UTC-8, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:33:30 PM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > Really, it is time to wake up and smell the coffee. 900,000 extra deaths would fill graveyards with funeral services,
> > > > > > > https://fox59.com/news/eskenazi-using-refrigerated-truck-to-store-the-dead-as-covid-19-hospitalizations-reach-record-levels/
> > > > > > > https://ktla.com/news/local-news/refrigerated-trucks-arrive-in-l-a-as-bodies-pile-up-at-hospital-morgues-amid-rising-covid-19-death-toll/
> > > > > > > https://www.wsj.com/articles/nyc-dead-stay-in-freezer-trucks-set-up-during-spring-covid-19-surge-11606050000
> > > > > > > https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-07/national-guard-refrigerated-trucks-help-manage-covid-deaths
> > > > > > > https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-new-york/bodies-found-in-unrefrigerated-trucks-in-new-york-during-covid-19-pandemic-idUSKBN22C0E3
> > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3NoR2k_H0U
> > > > > > > https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/26/nyregion/frozen-bodies-coronavirus-brooklyn.html
> > > > > > > https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-hospitals-refrigerated-coolers-stories-bodies-morgues-are-full-2021-8
> > > > > > > https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/oregon/articles/2021-08-28/oregon-counties-request-trucks-for-bodies-as-deaths-climb
> > > > > > > https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2021/09/03/capital-regional-meidcal-center-coronavirus-covid-tallahassee-tmh-deaths-hospital/5712600001/
> > > > > > > https://www.kgw.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/cowlitz-county-morgue-truck-covid-deaths/283-69c8508f-f237-4019-a3c6-134210d00423
> > > > > > > https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-arizona-coronavirus-deaths-refrigerated-trucks-morgues/
> > > > > > > https://nationalpost.com/news/world/texas-brings-in-refrigerated-trucks-to-store-dead-u-s-shatters-single-day-record-for-coronavirus-cases
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dead bodies from Covid were being stored in refrigeration trucks in all states. Los Angeles, New York City, Oregon, Florida, Texas, Indiana, Tennessee, etc. Everywhere. As for filling graveyards with funeral services, during the Covid rush, there were no public gatherings allowed so no funerals took place. Only immediate next of kin attended funerals. No big mass wakes of everyone and anyone showing up at the funeral home for the viewing. Limited to no viewing and only immediate family at funerals.
> > > > > > Russy baby, considering that the average age of death of covid-19 patients is 82 and with between one and eight comorbidities you sure must believe that your world is full of old people that require refrigerator trucks to contain the bodies. Apparently there is no end to the lies that you will believe.
> > > > > Of course tommy provides nothing to support his claim that none of these deaths really happened (other than his complete misinterpretation of the CDC "excess deaths" webpage).
> > > > I'm misinterpreting a page that says, "Total number of deaths above average since 2/1/2020, by cause of death" which then shows the number to be 7100 in two years. Does it hurt for you to be so stupid?
> > > https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-excess-deaths-during-pandemic-215337856..html
> > >
> > > Tommy says 7100 excess deaths in two years. Wahington Post story says more than one million deaths since the start of the Covid pandemic. Who are we going to believe? Tommy or a big major newspaper that has been around since 1877 and won 69 Pulitzer prizes? Tough choice.
> > We _could_ just stick to the source, Russ. Tommy keeps insisting the CDC webpage he lovingly refers to shows only 7100 "excess respiratory deaths", then goes on to claim that Covid is included in "excess respiratory deaths", even though the CDC states Covid is _not_ included in excess respiratory deaths and has a separate section on that same page called "excess deaths from Covid". I'm not sure his deceit is intentional or just a result of stupidity.
> > "30 round MAGAzines available for visiting gay bath houses" - Tom Kunich
> Flunky, you are quite correct that the CDC claims that covid-19 is supposedly not in that accounting of other respiratory disease deaths. But when you look up what they are doing there has several problems - for instance, covid-19 is NOT reported separately. It is reported along with pneumonia. Why is this? Because everyone in old age dies of pneumonia. And how do they detect that people died of pneumonia as a complication of covid-19? By using PCR. And didn't I show you that now even the CDC won't accept PCR as proof of the existence of covid-19? They are calling covid-19 a pandemic despite that the people who supposedly die from it are on the average 5 years older than the average age of death in the US.
>
> So what we have here is the CDC supposedly reporting a form of respiratory disease separately from other forms. But they only report this separate form of respiratory disease with the most common cause of death which is a respiratory disease caused usually by being old and bedridden.
>
> If they want to report covid-19 as a separate respiratory pandemic why wouldn't they report pneumonia as a pandemic since pneumonia with which they haven't shown positive with PCR is 20% larger in numbers?
>
> Here is the problem, "It is important to note that COVID-19 data is collected and reported by a much different standard than all other infectious diseases and causes of death data. This unique standard for COVID-19 was used, despite the existence of guidelines that have been successfully used since 2003 for data collection across all infective, comorbid, and injurious situations.
>
> COVID-19 data is collected and reported based upon the March 24th National Vital Statistics Systems (NVSS) Guidelines and the April 14th CDC adoption of a position paper authored by the Council of State and Territorial Epidemiologists (CSTE). 8,9
>
> However, the data for all other causes of death is based upon the 2003 CDC’s Medical Examiners’ & Coroners’ Handbook on Death Registration and Fetal Death Reporting and the CDC’s Physicians’ Handbook on Medical Certification of Death."
>
> So if you wish to believe that there is a real reason that covid-19 is only reported with pneumonia patients who just happened to test positive using PCR, that the inventor of the chemistry (Nobel Prize winner Dr. Kary Mullis) said could not be used in this manner (Dr. Mullis termed it "abusing" the chemistry) you can, but there is no standing for it.
>
> I've taken great care to use nothing but documented evidence and have not insulted you. So if you are going to debate this back remember that.

Why are you wasting time trying to convince us on r.b.tech??? Why aren't you making yourself rich and famous by
educating the rest of the world?

Can it be that nobody else will even listen to your nonsense?

- Frank Krygowski

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 4:21:07 PM UTC-8, frkr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 2:32:52 PM UTC-8, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 1:30:26 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 6:18:36 PM UTC-5, russell...@yahoo..com wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:23:02 PM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 10:53:08 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 10:18:08 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 9:12:37 PM UTC-8, russell....@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:33:30 PM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Really, it is time to wake up and smell the coffee. 900,000 extra deaths would fill graveyards with funeral services,
> > > > > > > > https://fox59.com/news/eskenazi-using-refrigerated-truck-to-store-the-dead-as-covid-19-hospitalizations-reach-record-levels/
> > > > > > > > https://ktla.com/news/local-news/refrigerated-trucks-arrive-in-l-a-as-bodies-pile-up-at-hospital-morgues-amid-rising-covid-19-death-toll/
> > > > > > > > https://www.wsj.com/articles/nyc-dead-stay-in-freezer-trucks-set-up-during-spring-covid-19-surge-11606050000
> > > > > > > > https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-07/national-guard-refrigerated-trucks-help-manage-covid-deaths
> > > > > > > > https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-new-york/bodies-found-in-unrefrigerated-trucks-in-new-york-during-covid-19-pandemic-idUSKBN22C0E3
> > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3NoR2k_H0U
> > > > > > > > https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/26/nyregion/frozen-bodies-coronavirus-brooklyn.html
> > > > > > > > https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-hospitals-refrigerated-coolers-stories-bodies-morgues-are-full-2021-8
> > > > > > > > https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/oregon/articles/2021-08-28/oregon-counties-request-trucks-for-bodies-as-deaths-climb
> > > > > > > > https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2021/09/03/capital-regional-meidcal-center-coronavirus-covid-tallahassee-tmh-deaths-hospital/5712600001/
> > > > > > > > https://www.kgw.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/cowlitz-county-morgue-truck-covid-deaths/283-69c8508f-f237-4019-a3c6-134210d00423
> > > > > > > > https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-arizona-coronavirus-deaths-refrigerated-trucks-morgues/
> > > > > > > > https://nationalpost.com/news/world/texas-brings-in-refrigerated-trucks-to-store-dead-u-s-shatters-single-day-record-for-coronavirus-cases
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dead bodies from Covid were being stored in refrigeration trucks in all states. Los Angeles, New York City, Oregon, Florida, Texas, Indiana, Tennessee, etc. Everywhere. As for filling graveyards with funeral services, during the Covid rush, there were no public gatherings allowed so no funerals took place. Only immediate next of kin attended funerals. No big mass wakes of everyone and anyone showing up at the funeral home for the viewing. Limited to no viewing and only immediate family at funerals.
> > > > > > > Russy baby, considering that the average age of death of covid-19 patients is 82 and with between one and eight comorbidities you sure must believe that your world is full of old people that require refrigerator trucks to contain the bodies. Apparently there is no end to the lies that you will believe.
> > > > > > Of course tommy provides nothing to support his claim that none of these deaths really happened (other than his complete misinterpretation of the CDC "excess deaths" webpage).
> > > > > I'm misinterpreting a page that says, "Total number of deaths above average since 2/1/2020, by cause of death" which then shows the number to be 7100 in two years. Does it hurt for you to be so stupid?
> > > > https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-excess-deaths-during-pandemic-215337856.html
> > > >
> > > > Tommy says 7100 excess deaths in two years. Wahington Post story says more than one million deaths since the start of the Covid pandemic. Who are we going to believe? Tommy or a big major newspaper that has been around since 1877 and won 69 Pulitzer prizes? Tough choice.
> > > We _could_ just stick to the source, Russ. Tommy keeps insisting the CDC webpage he lovingly refers to shows only 7100 "excess respiratory deaths", then goes on to claim that Covid is included in "excess respiratory deaths", even though the CDC states Covid is _not_ included in excess respiratory deaths and has a separate section on that same page called "excess deaths from Covid". I'm not sure his deceit is intentional or just a result of stupidity.
> > > "30 round MAGAzines available for visiting gay bath houses" - Tom Kunich
> > Flunky, you are quite correct that the CDC claims that covid-19 is supposedly not in that accounting of other respiratory disease deaths. But when you look up what they are doing there has several problems - for instance, covid-19 is NOT reported separately. It is reported along with pneumonia. Why is this? Because everyone in old age dies of pneumonia. And how do they detect that people died of pneumonia as a complication of covid-19? By using PCR. And didn't I show you that now even the CDC won't accept PCR as proof of the existence of covid-19? They are calling covid-19 a pandemic despite that the people who supposedly die from it are on the average 5 years older than the average age of death in the US.
> >
> > So what we have here is the CDC supposedly reporting a form of respiratory disease separately from other forms. But they only report this separate form of respiratory disease with the most common cause of death which is a respiratory disease caused usually by being old and bedridden.
> >
> > If they want to report covid-19 as a separate respiratory pandemic why wouldn't they report pneumonia as a pandemic since pneumonia with which they haven't shown positive with PCR is 20% larger in numbers?
> >
> > Here is the problem, "It is important to note that COVID-19 data is collected and reported by a much different standard than all other infectious diseases and causes of death data. This unique standard for COVID-19 was used, despite the existence of guidelines that have been successfully used since 2003 for data collection across all infective, comorbid, and injurious situations.
> >
> > COVID-19 data is collected and reported based upon the March 24th National Vital Statistics Systems (NVSS) Guidelines and the April 14th CDC adoption of a position paper authored by the Council of State and Territorial Epidemiologists (CSTE). 8,9
> >
> > However, the data for all other causes of death is based upon the 2003 CDC’s Medical Examiners’ & Coroners’ Handbook on Death Registration and Fetal Death Reporting and the CDC’s Physicians’ Handbook on Medical Certification of Death."
> >
> > So if you wish to believe that there is a real reason that covid-19 is only reported with pneumonia patients who just happened to test positive using PCR, that the inventor of the chemistry (Nobel Prize winner Dr. Kary Mullis) said could not be used in this manner (Dr. Mullis termed it "abusing" the chemistry) you can, but there is no standing for it.
> >
> > I've taken great care to use nothing but documented evidence and have not insulted you. So if you are going to debate this back remember that.
> Why are you wasting time trying to convince us on r.b.tech??? Why aren't you making yourself rich and famous by
> educating the rest of the world?
>
> Can it be that nobody else will even listen to your nonsense?

Frank, unlike you, I don't feel that my life is a loss because I'm not famous. I am rich enough for me. If I were to win a $500 million lotto what would I do with it? Other than will it to my step children, nothing. I complain about the cost of living not for myself, but for the people in the middle that cannot afford your lord and master Obama's inflation. You wish to claim that it is me worrying about money when in fact it is you calling out income disparity. The world is the way it is. There has never been another economic system as fair as this one is and you think that between you and Karl Marx you can change the world for the better despite the historic facts of your beloved socialism. I am not responding to you because I dislike you, but because I cannot figure out how a man who claims to be educated can miss the most obvious things possible. The homeless in America are junkies, you cannot improve their lives and I've tried and you haven't. Don't pretend to have answers to questions that were never asked.

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:48:57 PM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> Frank, unlike you, I don't feel that my life is a loss because I'm not famous. I am rich enough for me. If I were to win a $500 million lotto what would I do with it? Other than will it to my step children, nothing. I complain about the cost of living not for myself, but for the people in the middle that cannot afford your lord and master Obama's inflation. You wish to claim that it is me worrying about money when in fact it is you calling out income disparity. The world is the way it is. There has never been another economic system as fair as this one is and you think that between you and Karl Marx you can change the world for the better despite the historic facts of your beloved socialism. I am not responding to you because I dislike you, but because I cannot figure out how a man who claims to be educated can miss the most obvious things possible. The homeless in America are junkies, you cannot improve their lives and I've tried and you haven't. Don't pretend to have answers to questions that were never asked.

So Obama caused the inflation? Not Biden, but Obama? OK. So inflation must have been skyrocketing when Obama left office in January 2017. It wasn't, but lets pretend. And then your god Trump took office and we had zero inflation supposedly. Or even better, deflation. And then Biden took office and we have inflation now. And its all Obama's fault for inflation? Tommy, if you went to school, you would know they teach logic in school.

All the homeless are junkies? I did not know this. I always thought the common denominator amongst the homeless was homelessness. And probably poverty too. Since if they had money they most likely would not be homeless. But its good you educated us Tommy on all the homeless being drug junkies.

And Tommy you say you helped the homeless? Did you work in a soup kitchen? Did you help at the local homeless shelter? Did you go to the homeless encampments and pass out blankets or food? Tell us about your public service of helping the homeless in the Bay area.

On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 23:34:23 -0800 (PST), "russellseaton1@yahoo.com"
<ritzannaseaton@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:48:57 PM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Frank, unlike you, I don't feel that my life is a loss because I'm not famous. I am rich enough for me. If I were to win a $500 million lotto what would I do with it? Other than will it to my step children, nothing. I complain about the cost of living not for myself, but for the people in the middle that cannot afford your lord and master Obama's inflation. You wish to claim that it is me worrying about money when in fact it is you calling out income disparity. The world is the way it is. There has never been another economic system as fair as this one is and you think that between you and Karl Marx you can change the world for the better despite the historic facts of your beloved socialism. I am not responding to you because I dislike you, but because I cannot figure out how a man who claims to be educated can miss the most obvious things possible. The homeless in America are junkies, you cannot improve their lives and I've tried and you haven't. Don't pretend to have answers to
>questions that were never asked.
>
>So Obama caused the inflation? Not Biden, but Obama? OK. So inflation must have been skyrocketing when Obama left office in January 2017. It wasn't, but lets pretend. And then your god Trump took office and we had zero inflation supposedly. Or even better, deflation. And then Biden took office and we have inflation now. And its all Obama's fault for inflation? Tommy, if you went to school, you would know they teach logic in school.
>
>All the homeless are junkies? I did not know this. I always thought the common denominator amongst the homeless was homelessness. And probably poverty too. Since if they had money they most likely would not be homeless. But its good you educated us Tommy on all the homeless being drug junkies.
>
>And Tommy you say you helped the homeless? Did you work in a soup kitchen? Did you help at the local homeless shelter? Did you go to the homeless encampments and pass out blankets or food? Tell us about your public service of helping the homeless in the Bay area.

I've always wondered about the "homeless" I read about in U.S. news
reports.. In fact I even asked on this site about them. Are they penny
less and can't afford a roof over their heads and if so how do they
eat? and so on, and I never got a really cognizant reply. I got
replies saying that housing in California is costly but does this mean
that they are gainfully employed and can't afford to rent a house? Or
does it mean that they are unemployed and living on the sidewalk? Or??
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 2/17/2022 7:48 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 4:21:07 PM UTC-8, frkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 2:32:52 PM UTC-8, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> So if you wish to believe that there is a real reason that covid-19 is only reported with pneumonia patients who just happened to test positive using PCR, that the inventor of the chemistry (Nobel Prize winner Dr. Kary Mullis) said could not be used in this manner (Dr. Mullis termed it "abusing" the chemistry) you can, but there is no standing for it.
>>>
>>> I've taken great care to use nothing but documented evidence and have not insulted you. So if you are going to debate this back remember that.
>> Why are you wasting time trying to convince us on r.b.tech??? Why aren't you making yourself rich and famous by
>> educating the rest of the world?
>>
>> Can it be that nobody else will even listen to your nonsense?
>
> Frank, unlike you, I don't feel that my life is a loss because I'm not famous. I am rich enough for me. ...

That and the rest of Tom's post were the trademarked Kunich deflection
tactic: when Tom can't answer a question he switches to yet another
off-topic rant.

Tom, your nattering nonsense on COVID convinces nobody here and ruins
this discussion group. You are destructive and ineffective.

And even _IF_ you convinced absolutely everybody here that you know more
than the public health officials of every country in the world, it would
STILL make no difference.

You're an impotent, effete old man who pollutes this group to pretend to
have some tiny influence. But all you're achieving is to disgust people
and drive them away.

Grow some balls! Take your brilliance out into the rest of the world.
Write articles that people will actually read. Get on TV. Get on radio.

Or just get a robe and sandals and walk around with a big "COVID IS
FAKE" sign. Show the world who you really are!

--
- Frank Krygowski

On 2/18/2022 4:27 AM, John B. wrote:
>
> I've always wondered about the "homeless" I read about in U.S. news
> reports.. In fact I even asked on this site about them. Are they penny
> less and can't afford a roof over their heads and if so how do they
> eat? and so on, and I never got a really cognizant reply. I got
> replies saying that housing in California is costly but does this mean
> that they are gainfully employed and can't afford to rent a house? Or
> does it mean that they are unemployed and living on the sidewalk? Or??

It varies.

https://www.homelesshub.ca/about-homelessness/homelessness-101/causes-homelessness

https://endhomelessness.org/homelessness-in-america/what-causes-homelessness/

https://atlantamission.org/7-major-causes-homelessness/

You can look this stuff up.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 11:34:27 PM UTC-8, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 6:48:57 PM UTC-6, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Frank, unlike you, I don't feel that my life is a loss because I'm not famous. I am rich enough for me. If I were to win a $500 million lotto what would I do with it? Other than will it to my step children, nothing. I complain about the cost of living not for myself, but for the people in the middle that cannot afford your lord and master Obama's inflation. You wish to claim that it is me worrying about money when in fact it is you calling out income disparity. The world is the way it is. There has never been another economic system as fair as this one is and you think that between you and Karl Marx you can change the world for the better despite the historic facts of your beloved socialism. I am not responding to you because I dislike you, but because I cannot figure out how a man who claims to be educated can miss the most obvious things possible. The homeless in America are junkies, you cannot improve their lives and I've tried and you haven't. Don't pretend to have answers to questions that were never asked.
> So Obama caused the inflation? Not Biden, but Obama? OK. So inflation must have been skyrocketing when Obama left office in January 2017. It wasn't, but lets pretend. And then your god Trump took office and we had zero inflation supposedly. Or even better, deflation. And then Biden took office and we have inflation now. And its all Obama's fault for inflation? Tommy, if you went to school, you would know they teach logic in school.
>
> All the homeless are junkies? I did not know this. I always thought the common denominator amongst the homeless was homelessness. And probably poverty too. Since if they had money they most likely would not be homeless. But its good you educated us Tommy on all the homeless being drug junkies.
>
> And Tommy you say you helped the homeless? Did you work in a soup kitchen? Did you help at the local homeless shelter? Did you go to the homeless encampments and pass out blankets or food? Tell us about your public service of helping the homeless in the Bay area.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMvsjHeFa54

On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 7:52:23 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 2/17/2022 7:48 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 4:21:07 PM UTC-8, frkr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 2:32:52 PM UTC-8, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>> So if you wish to believe that there is a real reason that covid-19 is only reported with pneumonia patients who just happened to test positive using PCR, that the inventor of the chemistry (Nobel Prize winner Dr. Kary Mullis) said could not be used in this manner (Dr. Mullis termed it "abusing" the chemistry) you can, but there is no standing for it.
> >>>
> >>> I've taken great care to use nothing but documented evidence and have not insulted you. So if you are going to debate this back remember that.
> >> Why are you wasting time trying to convince us on r.b.tech??? Why aren't you making yourself rich and famous by
> >> educating the rest of the world?
> >>
> >> Can it be that nobody else will even listen to your nonsense?
> >
> > Frank, unlike you, I don't feel that my life is a loss because I'm not famous. I am rich enough for me. ...
>
> That and the rest of Tom's post were the trademarked Kunich deflection
> tactic: when Tom can't answer a question he switches to yet another
> off-topic rant.
>
> Tom, your nattering nonsense on COVID convinces nobody here and ruins
> this discussion group. You are destructive and ineffective.
>
> And even _IF_ you convinced absolutely everybody here that you know more
> than the public health officials of every country in the world, it would
> STILL make no difference.
>
> You're an impotent, effete old man who pollutes this group to pretend to
> have some tiny influence. But all you're achieving is to disgust people
> and drive them away.
>
> Grow some balls! Take your brilliance out into the rest of the world.
> Write articles that people will actually read. Get on TV. Get on radio.
>
> Or just get a robe and sandals and walk around with a big "COVID IS
> FAKE" sign. Show the world who you really are!

Frank, I couldn't care less if you would rather believe Fauci than me. That simply makes you a target for the people you have stolen everything from. That makes you a target for Fauci's vaccines.

You don't want to heed my warnings? All the better for me.

You continue to believe that unless you're famous your opinions aren't important. Am I supposed to believe someone that has never actually worked in medical science? Certainly other people are now saying what I've been saying for 2 years. Don't listen to them either. Or take Russell's route and try to blacken their reputations because they are saying what you don't like.

On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 8:00:37 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 2/18/2022 4:27 AM, John B. wrote:
> >
> > I've always wondered about the "homeless" I read about in U.S. news
> > reports.. In fact I even asked on this site about them. Are they penny
> > less and can't afford a roof over their heads and if so how do they
> > eat? and so on, and I never got a really cognizant reply. I got
> > replies saying that housing in California is costly but does this mean
> > that they are gainfully employed and can't afford to rent a house? Or
> > does it mean that they are unemployed and living on the sidewalk? Or??
> It varies.
>
> https://www.homelesshub.ca/about-homelessness/homelessness-101/causes-homelessness
>
> https://endhomelessness.org/homelessness-in-america/what-causes-homelessness/
>
> https://atlantamission.org/7-major-causes-homelessness/
>
> You can look this stuff up.

Why don't you move to California where you would be a homeless drug addict in 3 months? You quote shit that is so inculcated by the drug addiction that you haven't a guess what is going on.