On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 10:22:20 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 10:14:21 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNsgM9kFNr1dhnAP_mDjAJblaKuX3glKx4Wg52d
> >
> >Tell me Mr. Intelligent, what does that say?
> 404. That’s an error.
> The requested URL was not found on this server. That’s all we know.
>
> Keep trying. You'll get it right eventually.
> --
> Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Where's the bet?. You have been so successful with your being an electrical engineer and all, you shouldn't have any problem at all with an insignificant $1,000. After all, you caught me in a lie saying that I worked in Mt. View. You've caught me in so many lies you have an absolutely sure thing. So what about it?

On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 10:36:34 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 10:22:20 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 10:14:21 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNsgM9kFNr1dhnAP_mDjAJblaKuX3glKx4Wg52d
> > >
> > >Tell me Mr. Intelligent, what does that say?
> > 404. That’s an error.
> > The requested URL was not found on this server. That’s all we know.
> >
> > Keep trying. You'll get it right eventually.
> > --
> > Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> > PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> > Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
> > Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
> Where's the bet?. You have been so successful with your being an electrical engineer and all, you shouldn't have any problem at all with an insignificant $1,000. After all, you caught me in a lie saying that I worked in Mt. View. You've caught me in so many lies you have an absolutely sure thing. So what about it?

So it appears that the ass that's been writing long messages about how I never did what I said I did is fri8ghtened witless that he might be discovered to be a moronic ass. He is nearly broke from the actions of his pal Biden and his lies that he is a Republican are being shown to his good buddy Scharf. Well at least Liebermann will end up with one far left friend out of this.

On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 10:43:08 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 10:36:34 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 10:22:20 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 10:14:21 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNsgM9kFNr1dhnAP_mDjAJblaKuX3glKx4Wg52d
> > > >
> > > >Tell me Mr. Intelligent, what does that say?
> > > 404. That’s an error.
> > > The requested URL was not found on this server. That’s all we know.
> > >
> > > Keep trying. You'll get it right eventually.
> > > --
> > > Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> > > PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> > > Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
> > > Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
> > Where's the bet?. You have been so successful with your being an electrical engineer and all, you shouldn't have any problem at all with an insignificant $1,000. After all, you caught me in a lie saying that I worked in Mt. View. You've caught me in so many lies you have an absolutely sure thing.. So what about it?
> So it appears that the ass that's been writing long messages about how I never did what I said I did is fri8ghtened witless that he might be discovered to be a moronic ass. He is nearly broke from the actions of his pal Biden and his lies that he is a Republican are being shown to his good buddy Scharf. Well at least Liebermann will end up with one far left friend out of this.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Wf2THtDmjYaGW68g9

On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 10:16:35 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 10:12:38 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 08:36:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >By the way Jeff, what did you do for your country except attempt to steal from other members of the society you live among?

>> It's really thoughtful of you to ask me a question, and then provide
>> me with the answer you wanted to hear. If you already posses your
>> answer, why did you bother to ask me?
>>
>> Do you really think that anything I did or didn't do 50 years ago
>> would somehow enhance what is left of your reputation? Whether I am
>> evil incarnate or a modern day Mahatma Gandhi, I would have no effect
>> on your employment history, minimal education, and military service.
>> Even if you could demonstrate that I am an authorized representative
>> of the devil himself, that would still be insufficient to prove that
>> you received a "metal" from the VFW, have a life membership in the
>> Aeolian Yacht Club, or substantiate the massive dung heap of amazing
>> facts that spring forth from your fertile imagination. As you make
>> your bed, so must you lie on it.
>>
>> If your definition of serving my country includes serving in the
>> military, I did nothing. To avoid getting drafted, I stayed in
>> college and obtained a deferment. I eventually received a BSEE.
>> <http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
>> The closest approximation of something military was when I helped
>> design the AN/SRD-21 homer and AN/SRD-22 direction finder:
>> <http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/AN-SRD-21/>
>> <http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/AN-SRD-22/>
>> These were used by the USCG (US Coast Guard) for search and rescue.
>> That was in 1974 and 1975, after the draft had ended. At various
>> times, I attempted to obtain employment with companies that had
>> military contracts. That failed because I could not obtain the
>> required security clearance.

>Why didn't you want to bet with me?

I don't recall you asking for a wager. What were we betting on?

That's easy. I don't gamble. Besides the usual ethical reasons, my
relatives had a tendency towards compulsive and addictive behavior,
which included one compulsive gambler. Fortunately, there were no
compulsive liars in my family. I watched their actions as I was
growing up and deduced that it was a family trait. So, I did my best
to avoid temptation. I don't drink booze, I don't gamble, I don't
smoke, I currently don't do recreational drugs, and I mostly resist
the temptation to be pressured by others to drink and gamble. Since
you are apparently lacking in the ability to calculate the odds, I
suggest you avoid gambling and making bets.

> Because you know just how stupid you are?

I know exactly how smart or stupid I am. I've taken a few IQ tests in
the past and have done reasonably well. My IQ ran between 125 and
115 on the WAIS-R test. Over the years, it has decreased to the low
end of this scale due to various medical problems and the side effects
of several prescription drugs. I would guess about 110 today. I've
also run a few informal memory retention tests, which also show some
deterioration. I hate getting old.

Again, I'll remind you that any intelligence or personality faults on
my part do nothing to compensate for your problems. We're all a
checkerboard of good and bad traits and abilities. I try to look at
people for the what good they possess. You look only for the bad. You
can probably make that work, until you look in a mirror and see only
the bad in yourself.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 10:47:06 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 10:43:08 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 10:36:34 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 10:22:20 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 10:14:21 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > > > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNsgM9kFNr1dhnAP_mDjAJblaKuX3glKx4Wg52d
> > > > >
> > > > >Tell me Mr. Intelligent, what does that say?
> > > > 404. That’s an error.
> > > > The requested URL was not found on this server. That’s all we know.
> > > >
> > > > Keep trying. You'll get it right eventually.
> > > > --
> > > > Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> > > > PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> > > > Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
> > > > Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
> > > Where's the bet?. You have been so successful with your being an electrical engineer and all, you shouldn't have any problem at all with an insignificant $1,000. After all, you caught me in a lie saying that I worked in Mt. View. You've caught me in so many lies you have an absolutely sure thing. So what about it?
> > So it appears that the ass that's been writing long messages about how I never did what I said I did is fri8ghtened witless that he might be discovered to be a moronic ass. He is nearly broke from the actions of his pal Biden and his lies that he is a Republican are being shown to his good buddy Scharf. Well at least Liebermann will end up with one far left friend out of this.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Wf2THtDmjYaGW68g9
Why aren't you saying anything Jeff? Your silence is deafening. Why don't you quote the club rules again. After all, I'm probably the only life member left alive. You could always email the club secretary and ask her.

Where's my bet? Then we can bet whether I worked in Mt. View. And then we can bet that I worked at Physics International. After all there ARE IRS records available. Just think of all the money you could drain from my bank account? You could be the groups most successful pin head

On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 10:56:03 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 10:16:35 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 10:12:38 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 08:36:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >By the way Jeff, what did you do for your country except attempt to steal from other members of the society you live among?
>
> >> It's really thoughtful of you to ask me a question, and then provide
> >> me with the answer you wanted to hear. If you already posses your
> >> answer, why did you bother to ask me?
> >>
> >> Do you really think that anything I did or didn't do 50 years ago
> >> would somehow enhance what is left of your reputation? Whether I am
> >> evil incarnate or a modern day Mahatma Gandhi, I would have no effect
> >> on your employment history, minimal education, and military service.
> >> Even if you could demonstrate that I am an authorized representative
> >> of the devil himself, that would still be insufficient to prove that
> >> you received a "metal" from the VFW, have a life membership in the
> >> Aeolian Yacht Club, or substantiate the massive dung heap of amazing
> >> facts that spring forth from your fertile imagination. As you make
> >> your bed, so must you lie on it.
> >>
> >> If your definition of serving my country includes serving in the
> >> military, I did nothing. To avoid getting drafted, I stayed in
> >> college and obtained a deferment. I eventually received a BSEE.
> >> <http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
> >> The closest approximation of something military was when I helped
> >> design the AN/SRD-21 homer and AN/SRD-22 direction finder:
> >> <http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/AN-SRD-21/>
> >> <http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/AN-SRD-22/>
> >> These were used by the USCG (US Coast Guard) for search and rescue.
> >> That was in 1974 and 1975, after the draft had ended. At various
> >> times, I attempted to obtain employment with companies that had
> >> military contracts. That failed because I could not obtain the
> >> required security clearance.
> >Why didn't you want to bet with me?
> I don't recall you asking for a wager. What were we betting on?
>
> That's easy. I don't gamble. Besides the usual ethical reasons, my
> relatives had a tendency towards compulsive and addictive behavior,
> which included one compulsive gambler. Fortunately, there were no
> compulsive liars in my family. I watched their actions as I was
> growing up and deduced that it was a family trait. So, I did my best
> to avoid temptation. I don't drink booze, I don't gamble, I don't
> smoke, I currently don't do recreational drugs, and I mostly resist
> the temptation to be pressured by others to drink and gamble. Since
> you are apparently lacking in the ability to calculate the odds, I
> suggest you avoid gambling and making bets.
> > Because you know just how stupid you are?
> I know exactly how smart or stupid I am. I've taken a few IQ tests in
> the past and have done reasonably well. My IQ ran between 125 and
> 115 on the WAIS-R test. Over the years, it has decreased to the low
> end of this scale due to various medical problems and the side effects
> of several prescription drugs. I would guess about 110 today. I've
> also run a few informal memory retention tests, which also show some
> deterioration. I hate getting old.
>
> Again, I'll remind you that any intelligence or personality faults on
> my part do nothing to compensate for your problems. We're all a
> checkerboard of good and bad traits and abilities. I try to look at
> people for the what good they possess. You look only for the bad. You
> can probably make that work, until you look in a mirror and see only
> the bad in yourself.

Suddenly the things you declared to be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth are now a gamble? All of your fake claims which are being exposed and the word of a donkey and not those of an elephant are beginning to catch up with you? Now it is a gamble and not a sure thing?

You are a joke. Like John, if he so easily moved between major commands there was a reason. That of course was shown with the fact that he retired as a master sergeant and not a Chief or Senior

On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 10:47:05 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>https://photos.app.goo.gl/Wf2THtDmjYaGW68g9

Nice, but I'm suspicious. Looks like you've had it for quite some
time. The card seems to be missing some items, like the issue date,
signature of a club officer, member number, and years of service.
These are what I would expect a membership card to look like:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=yacht+club+membership+card&tbm=isch>

Would you mind if I email a copy to the membership committee and ask
them to authenticate your membership and card?

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:24:36 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 10:47:05 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/Wf2THtDmjYaGW68g9
>
> Nice, but I'm suspicious. Looks like you've had it for quite some
> time. The card seems to be missing some items, like the issue date,
> signature of a club officer, member number, and years of service.
> These are what I would expect a membership card to look like:
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=yacht+club+membership+card&tbm=isch>
>
> Would you mind if I email a copy to the membership committee and ask
> them to authenticate your membership and card?

Then by all means since you have iron clad proof that I'm lying make me that $1,000 bet. You couldn't possibly lose could you?

On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 11:24:36 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 10:47:05 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/Wf2THtDmjYaGW68g9
>
> Nice, but I'm suspicious. Looks like you've had it for quite some
> time. The card seems to be missing some items, like the issue date,
> signature of a club officer, member number, and years of service.
> These are what I would expect a membership card to look like:
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=yacht+club+membership+card&tbm=isch>
>
> Would you mind if I email a copy to the membership committee and ask
> them to authenticate your membership and card?

Jeff, you can do anything you like. But that is a yacht club and not your idiot ideas you're playing with. But berfore you do, why don't you make me that bet because you're absolutely certain that I am lying about it. The membership card isn't signed by a club officer so it has to be false, right? This would not be gambling - you have an absolutely sure thing.

On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 10:56:26 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Wf2THtDmjYaGW68g9

>Why aren't you saying anything Jeff? Your silence is deafening.

I was busy reading your insults and looking carefully at your photo.
It took you 24 hrs and I don't know how many attempts, to get the
photo posted. I'm retired and not in a hurry.

>Why don't you quote the club rules again. After all, I'm probably
>the only life member left alive. You could always email the club
>secretary and ask her.

Will do. I'm suspicious, especially since the last time the issue of
life membership appeared in RBT, you didn't mention a membership card.
I have the club email address or I can use the web form. I'll let you
know what happens. Might a be a delay due to the holiday.

>Where's my bet? Then we can bet whether I worked in Mt. View.

You didn't read what I wrote. I don't gamble or bet. Incidentally,
you haven't disclosed when and for what company you worked in Mountain
View. Be sure to add it to your LinkedIn resume.

>And then we can bet that I worked at Physics International.

If you can prove you worked at any of the companies that are NOT
listed on your resume, I'll be glad to entertain the possibility that
you might have told the truth.

>After all there ARE IRS records available.

I can see you've never done business with the IRS. The statutory
limit on IRS keeping your tax returns is 10 years. You can request
copies of returns from the IRS, but only back 10 years. You last
employment (Forward Innovations) listed on your resume was a few
months in 2014, which would be the last tax return you could request
from the IRS. I could obtain your income history from SSA (social
security admin) but it would only include your annual income, not the
names of your employers. You can send me your copies of your tax
records any time you find convenient.

Incidentally, the IRS now uses ID.me to authenticate queries for
information. It was quite an ordeal to convince to pass the obstacle
course of information desired by ID.me in order to obtain copies of my
own records. Give yourself a day or two to get it done and be
prepared for a video chat interview with someone from ID.me.

>Just think of all
>the money you could drain from my bank account? You could be the groups most successful pin head

Is that a question?

I don't think about draining money from your bank account because
there probably isn't enough left to justify the effort.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 12:01:21 PM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 10:56:26 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Wf2THtDmjYaGW68g9
>
> >Why aren't you saying anything Jeff? Your silence is deafening.
> I was busy reading your insults and looking carefully at your photo.
> It took you 24 hrs and I don't know how many attempts, to get the
> photo posted. I'm retired and not in a hurry.
> >Why don't you quote the club rules again. After all, I'm probably
> >the only life member left alive. You could always email the club
> >secretary and ask her.
> Will do. I'm suspicious, especially since the last time the issue of
> life membership appeared in RBT, you didn't mention a membership card.
> I have the club email address or I can use the web form. I'll let you
> know what happens. Might a be a delay due to the holiday.
> >Where's my bet? Then we can bet whether I worked in Mt. View.
> You didn't read what I wrote. I don't gamble or bet. Incidentally,
> you haven't disclosed when and for what company you worked in Mountain
> View. Be sure to add it to your LinkedIn resume.
> >And then we can bet that I worked at Physics International.
> If you can prove you worked at any of the companies that are NOT
> listed on your resume, I'll be glad to entertain the possibility that
> you might have told the truth.
> >After all there ARE IRS records available.
> I can see you've never done business with the IRS. The statutory
> limit on IRS keeping your tax returns is 10 years. You can request
> copies of returns from the IRS, but only back 10 years. You last
> employment (Forward Innovations) listed on your resume was a few
> months in 2014, which would be the last tax return you could request
> from the IRS. I could obtain your income history from SSA (social
> security admin) but it would only include your annual income, not the
> names of your employers. You can send me your copies of your tax
> records any time you find convenient.
>
> Incidentally, the IRS now uses ID.me to authenticate queries for
> information. It was quite an ordeal to convince to pass the obstacle
> course of information desired by ID.me in order to obtain copies of my
> own records. Give yourself a day or two to get it done and be
> prepared for a video chat interview with someone from ID.me.
> >Just think of all
> >the money you could drain from my bank account? You could be the groups most successful pin head
> Is that a question?
>
> I don't think about draining money from your bank account because
> there probably isn't enough left to justify the effort.

Among other things you seem to have trouble keeping up NASA Ames is in Mt. View. Or perhaps that is another thing you missed like believing a plastic membership card would have a signature on it or that a 23 page resume reduced to 3 pages could show every job I worked at. There is a serious problem in your head but at least you have enough sense not to lose all of your money betting on the stupid ideas you have. Tell me again about how I didn't work on a 6 million electron volt machine at Physics International because you can't find a patent for something like that. I enjoy you making an absolute ass out of yourself.

On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 4:10:06 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 5:56:28 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
> > On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 15:20:20 -0700 (PDT), "russell...@yahoo.com"
> > <ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 9:18:55 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 11:29:57 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
> > >> > On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 22:46:03 -0700 (PDT), "russell...@yahoo.com"
> > >> > <ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > >On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 8:06:25 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
> > >> > >> On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 15:33:13 -0700 (PDT), "russell...@yahoo.com"
> > >> > >> <ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> >On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 9:15:58 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> > >> >> On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 4:02:25 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
> > >> > >> >> > On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 08:15:30 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > >> > >> >> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > >On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 4:18:34 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
> > >> > >> >> > >> On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 07:52:13 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > >> > >> >> > >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > >> >> > >>
> > >> > >> >> > >> >On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 7:35:07 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 18:41:38 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > >> >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:04:19 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 10:12:11 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 11:38:03 AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > > On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 8:24:58 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 10:56:08 AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > > On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 7:04:38 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > > > On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 2:08:53 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > Well, I have been bothered by my Garmin 830 reporting "Laps" of 5 miles each. These are absolutely worthless but I have yet to discover a way of turning this off. When I flip the Laps notation "off" it still continues with this distraction.
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > > > >
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > More serious is it turning off at the strangest moments and for no reason. Yesterday, on that 38 mile ride, it turned off after 21 miles. I think that there was a small indicator that showed it was off but not very noticeable until I reached the top of the climb and started down and got to fairly easy descent from the 12% top descent. This means that I cut 10 miles off of my 38 mile recording. Luckily I did this exact route a month ago and so could get the climb and length off of it.. But the new Shamal wheels which had a remarkable effect on my flats speed didn't show any true average speed.
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > > > >
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > This happened more commonly in the past but it had more or less stopped doing this with the last firmware update.. Well, they updated it again and it looks like it is back.
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > > > >
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > I was also having trouble with my 830 finding the speed/cadence sensor but I figured that one out - they have a class of Cadence sensor and another Speed/Cadence sensor. They are different and apparently have different identification codes. Once discovered, easily fixed.
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > > > >
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > Now I have to watch for the unit shutting off for some reason. I think that occurs when I come to a stop for more than 10 seconds like when I stopped to take a leak along the road. The distance to that point is about correct for the stopped mileage.
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > > > The garminhas carried on with its piculiar behavior. I think that it was the last firmware update that did it in. The immediately followed that by yet another firmware update. So hopefully that wil correct the problem. It shows the route when you get to the end of the ride and connect it with Garmin Express, but it shows zero mileage for these sections. The last time the Garmin switched off at 5 miles into a 30 mile ride leaving me to guess at distances.
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > > That are strange problems. My brother uses an edge 830 for a couple of years now without those problems. He had issues when the unit came out but all that was solved by the first couple of updates. Garmin and software is not a great combination. Have you consulted the Garmin forum:
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > > https://forums.garmin.com/sports-fitness/cycling/f/edge-830
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > It appears that a lot of people are having trouble with either the same or related problems. Tomorrow I'll be taking anoter ride and start early and hope the wind and weather aren't too bad or hot. If it fails yet again after I've reset it, I'll have to call Service again. The last problem I had he sent me a non-released version of firmware that fixed all of the problems. I think I'll carry the 810 in my back pocket so that I don't have to guess at distances anymore. The 830 is smaller and lighter but DAMN are a lot of people having problems with it.
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > > The software engineers at Garmin are morons.
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > Well, one of the help line guys suggested that I disconnect the 830 from the old version 1 speed/cadence sensor and I did that running purely on GPS and it operated perfectly. I will try it again today and then change it over to the version 2 speed and cadence sensors which I think are different. If this works I will let the Garmen people know that they have a big fat bug sitting in the middle of their Version 1 sensor firmware.
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Again it operated perfectly so I will ad a version 2 Cadence and speed sensor and see it that fits the problem.
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >In an attempt to hook up the Version 2 speed and cadence sensors, I discovered that the 830 acts as it all of the screens are locked. I cannot get into adding a sensor screen because pushing the 3 lines has absolutely no effect. Fooling around with the power button gets me into a power screen at the top of which is an item that says "Lock Screens" pushing that has no effect either, as does pushing the buttons below it saying "power off" or "go to sleep".
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >If I turn the timer on, the timer starts running but it shows speed while sitting in my computer room. It you turn the timer off, it asks you if you want to save the recording. But the X for NO also doesn't work.
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >Does anyone have any idea about how to get this to work?
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> And thus speaks the chap with, by his own admission, 50 years of
> > >> > >> >> > >> >> software engineering!
> > >> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >> > >> >Thus speaks a moron that knows absolutely nothing about firmware or the difference between it and software. But he can run his mouth off for things other than blowing off little Thai boys.
> > >> > >> >> > >> Nice one Tommy, but you are the one who brags about all your
> > >> > >> >> > >> experience designing exotic medical equipment and now you need help in
> > >> > >> >> > >> turning on a simple electronic device that hundreds, probably
> > >> > >> >> > >> thousands, of others use with no problems.
> > >> > >> >> > >>
> > >> > >> >> > >> Tell us Tommy, do you also have problems with light switches in your
> > >> > >> >> > >> house? "Lets see.... is it up or down?"
> > >> > >> >> > >
> > >> > >> >> > >You're so stupid you cannot tell the difference between turning something on and it working properly. One can only wonder how you can put your own socks on. Or is that why you married a Thai woman whom you claim doesn't want to live in America with large Thai populations.
> > >> > >> >> > Socks? Nobody wears socks with sandals.
> > >> > >> >> > As for my wife, I'm not claiming, she did visit the U.S, and she did
> > >> > >> >> > state that she would never want to live there as the people weren't
> > >> > >> >> > "nice".
> > >> > >> >> > As for the "large" Thai populations... well the U.S. Migration Policy
> > >> > >> >> > Institute has it that there are 239,942 Thai's living in the U.S. as
> > >> > >> >> > of 2011.
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > As for you I can only repeat my previous comment that even a very
> > >> > >> >> > small child, or even a puppy dog, will learn if you slap it on the
> > >> > >> >> > arse and shout NO! when it misbehaves. But you've been slapped on the
> > >> > >> >> > arse, documented for at least 16 years, and you haven't learned a
> > >> > >> >> > thing.
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > I think the light switch may be too complicated for one of your mental
> > >> > >> >> > caliber.
> > >> > >> >> So you're admitting you lied about you bringing your wife to the US and her not liking it. She of course preferred a Thai open air market with flies covering the produce rather than an air conditioned supermarket with food that people don't have to wonder if it will poison them or not..
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >Tommy, you being a city boy who has no clue about where food comes from, I will tell you something. Lots of food is grown in the DIRT!!!!!! Yes that is right, the DIRT!!!!!!!!! And the animals we raise and slaughter and eat are also usually raised on dirt. Standing on the dirt. Not eating the dirt. But the food they eat is grown in the dirt. DIRT!!!!!!!!!!! And guess what Tommy? There are flies and bugs and all kinds of other things in this dirt!!!!!!!!! Or on the crops. Now when all the food is processed, it is usually kept reasonably clean. But I think the FDA has some rules for bug parts per millions thing or another. And human beings deal with germs and bacteria pretty well. I think there is some bacteria that live inside humans!!!!!!!!!!
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >And Tommy, I suspect there are also open markets where organic, nature people sell their home grown vegetables in California. Usually Saturday mornings in downtown. Usually these markets are a big deal. Lots of people go there every week to buy wholesome food. Usually expensive.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >One more thing Tommy boy. Must have been last fall. I helped my Mom and brother pick up apples off a tree. Some of the apples were on the ground!!!!!!! Touching the grass!!!!!!!! Mom peeled them and cooked them and made apple pie and applesauce. Yummmmm. Dirty, filthy apples touching the earth!!!!!!! Some were picked directly off the tree too. But they were probably contaminated by the air from the nearby factories. We did this with pears too. I like pears.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> And even worse! Apple trees and the fruit are sprayed with noxious
> > >> > >> chemicals to protect them from bugs and such.
> > >> > >> --
> > >> > >> Cheers,
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> John B.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >I forgot to add this. I currently live in Iowa. Iowa is known for agriculture. Among other things. But agriculture is one of the big ones. Iowa grows LOTS of corn. Corn is used as animal feed. AND to make fructose. That sugar used in almost everything. Everything processed anyway. Food. So when Tommy boy drank his Coke today, it contained fructose likely from Iowa corn. Now back to that animal feed part about corn. Iowa grows lots of corn that is fed to livestock. Iowa is also a HUGE pig state. I believe Iowa raises more pigs than any other state in the USA. Hog confinements are everywhere. Every few miles you see and smell a hog confinement out in the country. Do you know what the hogs eat? Corn grown in Iowa. Know what else the hogs make, besides pork when they are slaughtered? Manure. Hog confinements make lots and lots of manure. Do you know what is done with that manure? It is spread on fields. Actually its injected, tilled into the dirt. So Tommy boy,
> > >> > >when you drink your Coke with fructose, you are drinking hog sh-t.. Or fructose from corn grown on fields fertilized with hog sh-t. Gosh, that Thailand open air market with flies doesn't sound too bad now.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >John, the apple and pear trees I am referring to, that we picked the fruit from. They were not sprayed with any chemicals. They are local trees in yards. Not commercial fruit tree farms. They were organic apple and pear trees.
> > >> > Errr... an organic tree (:-)
> > >> >
> > >> > I grew up in a non chemical, well pretty much non chemical, society, I
> > >> > think I remember tomatoes being sprayed to kill tomato worms, but you
> > >> > could eat apples right off the tree, or off the ground for that
> > >> > matter. Sort of wipe them off on your shirt and gobble them.
> > >> >
> > >> > As for manure... I wonder what Tommy thinks is done with the tons and
> > >> > tons of manure from chicken cattle, pigs, or even humans - in some
> > >> > countries - that is produced annually. In 1894 there were some 11,000
> > >> > Hanson cabs and several thousand horse drawn "busses" in London ove5
> > >> > 50,000 horses used for transportation and on the average a horse
> > >> > produces 15 - 35 pounds of manure a day - depending on size. 50,000 x
> > >> > (say) 25 lbs = 625 tons. A day! One newspaper estimated that in 50
> > >> > years every street in London would be 9 feet deep in horse manure.
> > >> I grew up when things were still delivered by horse and cart and John with all of that vast knowledge he has of London is going to tell us about manure when he is a pile of horseshit. It must certainly be wonderful to know about everything when you've never been anywhere
> > >
> > >One more inexplicable statement from Tommy boy. John grew up in the Northeast. Vermont
> > or New Hampshire. And he has been living in Thailand for the past 3-4
> > decades. Yet you say he has never been anywhere? As for you Tommy,
> > you were born and raised in Oakland. Supposedly traveled to Asia
> > during your claimed Air Force service. And have worked and lived in
> > the Oakland area ever since. Compared to John, you have never been
> > anywhere times two. You are still right where you started. Tommy,
> > you need to leave home. Go, explore, live.
> > Actually it is very arguable whether Tommy ever reached "Asia" as from
> > his tales he was on Guam for a few months.... some 2,524 Km from Tokyo
> > and 3,932 km from Vietnam.
> >
> > As for me (:-) Well, U.S., Japan, Vietnam, Singapore, Indonesia,
> > Thailand,
> > (:-)
> Six months is half a year and not "a couple of months". The Air Force called it a war zone and issued me a VFW metal for it no matter how much you lie about it. The bombs and the ammunition was all live and I did fly four missions over Vietnam directly whether you want to admit it or not. You're such a nobody that you're using kilometers instead of miles to make the distances sound further than they are.

On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 12:12:38 PM UTC-5, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 08:36:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >By the way Jeff, what did you do for your country except attempt to steal from other members of the society you live among?
> It's really thoughtful of you to ask me a question, and then provide
> me with the answer you wanted to hear. If you already posses your
> answer, why did you bother to ask me?
>
> Do you really think that anything I did or didn't do 50 years ago
> would somehow enhance what is left of your reputation? Whether I am
> evil incarnate or a modern day Mahatma Gandhi, I would have no effect
> on your employment history, minimal education, and military service.
> Even if you could demonstrate that I am an authorized representative
> of the devil himself,

Jeff, would the "devil", who I assume is corrupt, bother to get an "authorized" representative? Seems to me an "unauthorized" representative would be more in keeping with the devil and his reputation.

> that would still be insufficient to prove that
> you received a "metal" from the VFW, have a life membership in the
> Aeolian Yacht Club, or substantiate the massive dung heap of amazing
> facts that spring forth from your fertile imagination. As you make
> your bed, so must you lie on it.
>
> If your definition of serving my country includes serving in the
> military, I did nothing. To avoid getting drafted, I stayed in
> college and obtained a deferment. I eventually received a BSEE.
> <http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
> The closest approximation of something military was when I helped
> design the AN/SRD-21 homer and AN/SRD-22 direction finder:
> <http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/AN-SRD-21/>
> <http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/AN-SRD-22/>
> These were used by the USCG (US Coast Guard) for search and rescue.
> That was in 1974 and 1975, after the draft had ended. At various
> times, I attempted to obtain employment with companies that had
> military contracts. That failed because I could not obtain the
> required security clearance.
> --
> Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 13:28:30 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 12:01:21 PM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 10:56:26 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Wf2THtDmjYaGW68g9
>>
>> >Why aren't you saying anything Jeff? Your silence is deafening.
>> I was busy reading your insults and looking carefully at your photo.
>> It took you 24 hrs and I don't know how many attempts, to get the
>> photo posted. I'm retired and not in a hurry.
>> >Why don't you quote the club rules again. After all, I'm probably
>> >the only life member left alive. You could always email the club
>> >secretary and ask her.
>> Will do. I'm suspicious, especially since the last time the issue of
>> life membership appeared in RBT, you didn't mention a membership card.
>> I have the club email address or I can use the web form. I'll let you
>> know what happens. Might a be a delay due to the holiday.
>> >Where's my bet? Then we can bet whether I worked in Mt. View.
>> You didn't read what I wrote. I don't gamble or bet. Incidentally,
>> you haven't disclosed when and for what company you worked in Mountain
>> View. Be sure to add it to your LinkedIn resume.
>> >And then we can bet that I worked at Physics International.
>> If you can prove you worked at any of the companies that are NOT
>> listed on your resume, I'll be glad to entertain the possibility that
>> you might have told the truth.
>> >After all there ARE IRS records available.
>> I can see you've never done business with the IRS. The statutory
>> limit on IRS keeping your tax returns is 10 years. You can request
>> copies of returns from the IRS, but only back 10 years. You last
>> employment (Forward Innovations) listed on your resume was a few
>> months in 2014, which would be the last tax return you could request
>> from the IRS. I could obtain your income history from SSA (social
>> security admin) but it would only include your annual income, not the
>> names of your employers. You can send me your copies of your tax
>> records any time you find convenient.
>>
>> Incidentally, the IRS now uses ID.me to authenticate queries for
>> information. It was quite an ordeal to convince to pass the obstacle
>> course of information desired by ID.me in order to obtain copies of my
>> own records. Give yourself a day or two to get it done and be
>> prepared for a video chat interview with someone from ID.me.
>> >Just think of all
>> >the money you could drain from my bank account? You could be the groups most successful pin head
>> Is that a question?
>>
>> I don't think about draining money from your bank account because
>> there probably isn't enough left to justify the effort.
>
>Among other things you seem to have trouble keeping up NASA Ames is in Mt. View. Or perhaps that is another thing you missed like believing a plastic membership card would have a signature on it or that a 23 page resume reduced to 3 pages could show every job I worked at. There is a serious problem in your head but at least you have enough sense not to lose all of your money betting on the stupid ideas you have. Tell me again about how I didn't work on a 6 million electron volt machine at Physics International because you can't find a patent for something like that. I enjoy you making an absolute ass out of yourself.

But Tommy, is sweeping the floor and emptying waste paper bins "work
on a 6 million electron volt machine"?
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 3:53:48 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 13:28:30 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 12:01:21 PM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 10:56:26 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Wf2THtDmjYaGW68g9
> >>
> >> >Why aren't you saying anything Jeff? Your silence is deafening.
> >> I was busy reading your insults and looking carefully at your photo.
> >> It took you 24 hrs and I don't know how many attempts, to get the
> >> photo posted. I'm retired and not in a hurry.
> >> >Why don't you quote the club rules again. After all, I'm probably
> >> >the only life member left alive. You could always email the club
> >> >secretary and ask her.
> >> Will do. I'm suspicious, especially since the last time the issue of
> >> life membership appeared in RBT, you didn't mention a membership card.
> >> I have the club email address or I can use the web form. I'll let you
> >> know what happens. Might a be a delay due to the holiday.
> >> >Where's my bet? Then we can bet whether I worked in Mt. View.
> >> You didn't read what I wrote. I don't gamble or bet. Incidentally,
> >> you haven't disclosed when and for what company you worked in Mountain
> >> View. Be sure to add it to your LinkedIn resume.
> >> >And then we can bet that I worked at Physics International.
> >> If you can prove you worked at any of the companies that are NOT
> >> listed on your resume, I'll be glad to entertain the possibility that
> >> you might have told the truth.
> >> >After all there ARE IRS records available.
> >> I can see you've never done business with the IRS. The statutory
> >> limit on IRS keeping your tax returns is 10 years. You can request
> >> copies of returns from the IRS, but only back 10 years. You last
> >> employment (Forward Innovations) listed on your resume was a few
> >> months in 2014, which would be the last tax return you could request
> >> from the IRS. I could obtain your income history from SSA (social
> >> security admin) but it would only include your annual income, not the
> >> names of your employers. You can send me your copies of your tax
> >> records any time you find convenient.
> >>
> >> Incidentally, the IRS now uses ID.me to authenticate queries for
> >> information. It was quite an ordeal to convince to pass the obstacle
> >> course of information desired by ID.me in order to obtain copies of my
> >> own records. Give yourself a day or two to get it done and be
> >> prepared for a video chat interview with someone from ID.me.
> >> >Just think of all
> >> >the money you could drain from my bank account? You could be the groups most successful pin head
> >> Is that a question?
> >>
> >> I don't think about draining money from your bank account because
> >> there probably isn't enough left to justify the effort.
> >
> >Among other things you seem to have trouble keeping up NASA Ames is in Mt. View. Or perhaps that is another thing you missed like believing a plastic membership card would have a signature on it or that a 23 page resume reduced to 3 pages could show every job I worked at. There is a serious problem in your head but at least you have enough sense not to lose all of your money betting on the stupid ideas you have. Tell me again about how I didn't work on a 6 million electron volt machine at Physics International because you can't find a patent for something like that. I enjoy you making an absolute ass out of yourself.
> But Tommy, is sweeping the floor and emptying waste paper bins "work
> on a 6 million electron volt machine"?

Tell me what you know about Physics International and what they did in the 60's

On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 11:03:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 10:56:03 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 10:16:35 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 10:12:38 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 08:36:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >By the way Jeff, what did you do for your country except attempt to steal from other members of the society you live among?
>>
>> >> It's really thoughtful of you to ask me a question, and then provide
>> >> me with the answer you wanted to hear. If you already posses your
>> >> answer, why did you bother to ask me?
>> >>
>> >> Do you really think that anything I did or didn't do 50 years ago
>> >> would somehow enhance what is left of your reputation? Whether I am
>> >> evil incarnate or a modern day Mahatma Gandhi, I would have no effect
>> >> on your employment history, minimal education, and military service.
>> >> Even if you could demonstrate that I am an authorized representative
>> >> of the devil himself, that would still be insufficient to prove that
>> >> you received a "metal" from the VFW, have a life membership in the
>> >> Aeolian Yacht Club, or substantiate the massive dung heap of amazing
>> >> facts that spring forth from your fertile imagination. As you make
>> >> your bed, so must you lie on it.
>> >>
>> >> If your definition of serving my country includes serving in the
>> >> military, I did nothing. To avoid getting drafted, I stayed in
>> >> college and obtained a deferment. I eventually received a BSEE.
>> >> <http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
>> >> The closest approximation of something military was when I helped
>> >> design the AN/SRD-21 homer and AN/SRD-22 direction finder:
>> >> <http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/AN-SRD-21/>
>> >> <http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/AN-SRD-22/>
>> >> These were used by the USCG (US Coast Guard) for search and rescue.
>> >> That was in 1974 and 1975, after the draft had ended. At various
>> >> times, I attempted to obtain employment with companies that had
>> >> military contracts. That failed because I could not obtain the
>> >> required security clearance.
>> >Why didn't you want to bet with me?
>> I don't recall you asking for a wager. What were we betting on?
>>
>> That's easy. I don't gamble. Besides the usual ethical reasons, my
>> relatives had a tendency towards compulsive and addictive behavior,
>> which included one compulsive gambler. Fortunately, there were no
>> compulsive liars in my family. I watched their actions as I was
>> growing up and deduced that it was a family trait. So, I did my best
>> to avoid temptation. I don't drink booze, I don't gamble, I don't
>> smoke, I currently don't do recreational drugs, and I mostly resist
>> the temptation to be pressured by others to drink and gamble. Since
>> you are apparently lacking in the ability to calculate the odds, I
>> suggest you avoid gambling and making bets.
>> > Because you know just how stupid you are?
>> I know exactly how smart or stupid I am. I've taken a few IQ tests in
>> the past and have done reasonably well. My IQ ran between 125 and
>> 115 on the WAIS-R test. Over the years, it has decreased to the low
>> end of this scale due to various medical problems and the side effects
>> of several prescription drugs. I would guess about 110 today. I've
>> also run a few informal memory retention tests, which also show some
>> deterioration. I hate getting old.
>>
>> Again, I'll remind you that any intelligence or personality faults on
>> my part do nothing to compensate for your problems. We're all a
>> checkerboard of good and bad traits and abilities. I try to look at
>> people for the what good they possess. You look only for the bad. You
>> can probably make that work, until you look in a mirror and see only
>> the bad in yourself.
>
>Suddenly the things you declared to be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth are now a gamble? All of your fake claims which are being exposed and the word of a donkey and not those of an elephant are beginning to catch up with you? Now it is a gamble and not a sure thing?
>
>You are a joke. Like John, if he so easily moved between major commands there was a reason. That of course was shown with the fact that he retired as a master sergeant and not a Chief or Senior

You keep talking about this moving between major commands, were you
really in the Air Force? I ask as I knew, probably hundreds, if not
thousands, that moved from one major command to another, particularly
when being transferred overseas.

Or is it simply yet another indication of your ignorance?
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 15:58:56 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 3:53:48 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 13:28:30 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 12:01:21 PM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 10:56:26 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Wf2THtDmjYaGW68g9
>> >>
>> >> >Why aren't you saying anything Jeff? Your silence is deafening.
>> >> I was busy reading your insults and looking carefully at your photo.
>> >> It took you 24 hrs and I don't know how many attempts, to get the
>> >> photo posted. I'm retired and not in a hurry.
>> >> >Why don't you quote the club rules again. After all, I'm probably
>> >> >the only life member left alive. You could always email the club
>> >> >secretary and ask her.
>> >> Will do. I'm suspicious, especially since the last time the issue of
>> >> life membership appeared in RBT, you didn't mention a membership card.
>> >> I have the club email address or I can use the web form. I'll let you
>> >> know what happens. Might a be a delay due to the holiday.
>> >> >Where's my bet? Then we can bet whether I worked in Mt. View.
>> >> You didn't read what I wrote. I don't gamble or bet. Incidentally,
>> >> you haven't disclosed when and for what company you worked in Mountain
>> >> View. Be sure to add it to your LinkedIn resume.
>> >> >And then we can bet that I worked at Physics International.
>> >> If you can prove you worked at any of the companies that are NOT
>> >> listed on your resume, I'll be glad to entertain the possibility that
>> >> you might have told the truth.
>> >> >After all there ARE IRS records available.
>> >> I can see you've never done business with the IRS. The statutory
>> >> limit on IRS keeping your tax returns is 10 years. You can request
>> >> copies of returns from the IRS, but only back 10 years. You last
>> >> employment (Forward Innovations) listed on your resume was a few
>> >> months in 2014, which would be the last tax return you could request
>> >> from the IRS. I could obtain your income history from SSA (social
>> >> security admin) but it would only include your annual income, not the
>> >> names of your employers. You can send me your copies of your tax
>> >> records any time you find convenient.
>> >>
>> >> Incidentally, the IRS now uses ID.me to authenticate queries for
>> >> information. It was quite an ordeal to convince to pass the obstacle
>> >> course of information desired by ID.me in order to obtain copies of my
>> >> own records. Give yourself a day or two to get it done and be
>> >> prepared for a video chat interview with someone from ID.me.
>> >> >Just think of all
>> >> >the money you could drain from my bank account? You could be the groups most successful pin head
>> >> Is that a question?
>> >>
>> >> I don't think about draining money from your bank account because
>> >> there probably isn't enough left to justify the effort.
>> >
>> >Among other things you seem to have trouble keeping up NASA Ames is in Mt. View. Or perhaps that is another thing you missed like believing a plastic membership card would have a signature on it or that a 23 page resume reduced to 3 pages could show every job I worked at. There is a serious problem in your head but at least you have enough sense not to lose all of your money betting on the stupid ideas you have. Tell me again about how I didn't work on a 6 million electron volt machine at Physics International because you can't find a patent for something like that. I enjoy you making an absolute ass out of yourself.
>> But Tommy, is sweeping the floor and emptying waste paper bins "work
>> on a 6 million electron volt machine"?
>
>Tell me what you know about Physics International and what they did in the 60's

Physics International publishes a magazine
https://thescipub.com/pi

And you swept the floor.
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Cheers,

John B.

On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 15:09:40 -0700 (PDT), "russellseaton1@yahoo.com"
<ritzannaseaton@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 12:12:38 PM UTC-5, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Do you really think that anything I did or didn't do 50 years ago
>> would somehow enhance what is left of your reputation? Whether I am
>> evil incarnate or a modern day Mahatma Gandhi, I would have no effect
>> on your employment history, minimal education, and military service.
>> Even if you could demonstrate that I am an authorized representative
>> of the devil himself,

>Jeff, would the "devil", who I assume is corrupt, bother to get an "authorized" representative? Seems to me an "unauthorized" representative would be more in keeping with the devil and his reputation.

The Christian god has angels while the devil has the Hell's Angels. I
believe both consider themselves to be authorized representatives of
their respective lords. With very little imagination, they could be
equivalent rank. Interesting how heaven was organized in the same
manner as a feudal hierarchy. Hell was probably structured in the
manner of "Don Juan in Hell" by George Bernard Shaw, where the devil
was a study in suppressed fire and brimstone and considered God to be
a competing collector of human souls. Under the circumstance,
unauthorized representatives would quickly be found by the omniscient
and omnipresent God and summarily dealt with in a manner intended to
discourage duplication and repetition. The devil would probably do
the same. I'm not sure what they might do with the undecided and
unrepentant. Probably a vacation in limbo for a few eternities.

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Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 13:28:30 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>Tell me again about how I didn't work on a 6 million electron volt machine at Physics International...

Electron volts? MeV is a measure of energy in joules.
6 MeV is equal to 9.6*10-13 joules. That's tiny, really tiny. 6 MeV
about the energy needed for a house fly to walk one step or the energy
acquired by a single electron falling through a potential of 636
volts. Try using these charts to get a feel for the energy
magnitudes:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(energy)>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronvolt>

I seem to recall you mentioned that you did "science". If so, you
seem to be lacking in the basics.

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PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 15:58:56 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>Tell me what you know about Physics International and what they did in the 60's

In 1960, you were 16 years old.

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PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
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On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 18:18:13 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 15:58:56 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
><cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Tell me what you know about Physics International and what they did in the 60's
>
>In 1960, you were 16 years old.

Perhaps he was a "child prodigy". Defined as a child who produces
meaningful output in some domain to the level of an adult expert.

Probably why he never bothered to finish high school.
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Cheers,

John B.

On Sun, 03 Jul 2022 18:15:02 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 13:28:30 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
><cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Tell me again about how I didn't work on a 6 million electron volt machine at Physics International...
>
>Electron volts? MeV is a measure of energy in joules.
>6 MeV is equal to 9.6*10-13 joules. That's tiny, really tiny. 6 MeV
>about the energy needed for a house fly to walk one step or the energy
>acquired by a single electron falling through a potential of 636
>volts. Try using these charts to get a feel for the energy
>magnitudes:
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(energy)>
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronvolt>
>
>I seem to recall you mentioned that you did "science". If so, you
>seem to be lacking in the basics.

But "science" can be interpreted as "ability to produce solutions in
some problem domain". Perhaps, even at a tender age, he was a genius
at mopping floors and emptying waste paper baskets.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 6:01:41 PM UTC-4, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 4:10:06 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > I was in Japan since Okinawa is part of Japan and my Japanese friend lives there. I also flew at least one Chrome Dome mission which covered the Arctic Circle. A couple of years ago I took a cruise ship to Mexico. I've been to 13 states. You want to pretend that you have been something other than a nitwit like Frank but your pretense isn't real.
> Just 13 states? You're not well traveled at all. Your comment caused me to look at the map and count up all of the states I've been in. 30 is my total.

My count: I've traveled to 48 states so far, and bicycled in 47 of those. I tend to lose count of the other countries I've visited and cycled in,
but it's about ten or twelve. There's only one country that I've visited but not bicycled - if you can call riding a train through a country
"visiting."

- Frank Krygowski

On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 6:53:48 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
>
> But Tommy, is sweeping the floor and emptying waste paper bins "work
> on a 6 million electron volt machine"?

Millions of volts are not necessarily difficult. Anyone can buy one of these.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_de_Graaff_generator

- Frank Krygowski

On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 8:18:21 PM UTC-5, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 15:58:56 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Tell me what you know about Physics International and what they did in the 60's
> In 1960, you were 16 years old.

One year shy of dropping out of high school.

> --
> Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558