jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/03/18/great-reset-germany-wants-eu-ban-on-sale-of-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2035/
>
>
> I wonder where the electricity will come from. Large-scale generating
> and distribution systems take a long time to build. And need fuel.

They didn't say they wanted to replace the cars with anything. They said
only that they wanted to eliminate the cars.

Biden phrased it the same way. They intend for you to use a bus or a
bicycle, but they won't say what they really want.

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On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 9:23:01 AM UTC-7, Rickster wrote:
> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 12:03:43 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> > https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/03/18/great-reset-germany-wants-eu-ban-on-sale-of-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2035/
> >
> >
> > I wonder where the electricity will come from. Large-scale generating
> > and distribution systems take a long time to build. And need fuel.
> I suppose you stand by a river and wonder where the water comes from, or stand by train tracks and wonder where the trains come from.
>
> As everyone else here understands already, we have a great deal of under utilized electrical generation in most parts of the world. In addition we are adding both wind and solar power generation.
>
> While the under informed are predicting massive lithium shortages, I'm not seeing anyone predicting shortages of electric generation.
>
> Here are some numbers if the math is not too much for you. The average miles driven in the US is 14,000 a year. That's about 38 miles per day or 9.5 kWh using 4 miles/kWh as a typical BEV consumption. I can plug my BEV into a 120V outlet for less than 10 hours a night to charge this much. Yeah, at night when the electrical generating capacity is very, very underutilized.
>
> What's even better about charging BEVs, is the fact that, to use the term which is applied to generation that is started up quickly, BEV charging is dispatchable, in this case meaning the charge time is typically flexible. Driving 40 miles a day means your battery will hold up for a number of days, allowing you to postpone charging until renewable power is in excess supply or the prices are low. I expect a means of coordinating charging with the availability of power will become the norm, no matter where you are plugged in. You will tell your car your expected driving for the next few days and the car will work to accommodate that. We may find this turns into an electronic auction yielding low prices for consumers and evening out the electrical demand for the suppliers.
>
> --
>
> Ricky C.
>
> - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

The Sun is not out at night, and winds are highest in the afternoon, if there is any wind at all. What is required is a major shift to nuclear.

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Sun, 20 Mar 2022 04:59:33 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t16cbl$5ul$4@dont-email.me>.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow it's own rules that it uses to troll other posters.

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On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 00:27:09 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
<fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:

>bitrex wrote:
>> On 3/18/2022 12:57 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
>>> In article <n6d93hh06f3l5rsk5ioqap12naf2b0su66@4ax.com>,
>>> jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com says...
>>>>
>>>> The US was never an empire like England and Spain and China and
>>>> Japan. All the states chose to be states. We didn't have much of a
>>>> colonial empire, and don't hold any territory by force.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I would say the war between the states (Civel War) held many states
>>> by force.
>>> Wasn't Texas taken from Mexico ?
>>
>> Some would say all of America was taken from lots of people, lol
>
>And everywhere else is populated by the original inhabitants.

Don't ignore animal rights! Nasty invasive humans killed off the
native animal populations who owned the land, well, everywhere.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_animals_extinct_in_the_Holocene

and that's just North America.

Some of the extinction may have been natural, but hunter-gatherers
sure didn't help.

Do "original inhabitants" own the land?

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On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 00:38:55 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
<fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:

>jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/03/18/great-reset-germany-wants-eu-ban-on-sale-of-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2035/
>>
>>
>> I wonder where the electricity will come from. Large-scale generating
>> and distribution systems take a long time to build. And need fuel.
>
>They didn't say they wanted to replace the cars with anything. They said
>only that they wanted to eliminate the cars.
>
>Biden phrased it the same way. They intend for you to use a bus or a
>bicycle, but they won't say what they really want.

Good point. Owning a car grants freedoms to the masses, and our wise
leadership doesn't want that.

When I was in the Moscow, all the cars had to pull over whan a fat cat
Party member zoomed by in the left lane in his limo. I think the left
lane was actually reserved for them.

We underlings are slowing down the elites. We should be on trains or
bicycles.

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On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:56:27 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 9:23:01 AM UTC-7, Rickster wrote:
> > On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 12:03:43 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> > > https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/03/18/great-reset-germany-wants-eu-ban-on-sale-of-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2035/
> > >
> > >
> > > I wonder where the electricity will come from. Large-scale generating
> > > and distribution systems take a long time to build. And need fuel.
> > I suppose you stand by a river and wonder where the water comes from, or stand by train tracks and wonder where the trains come from.
> >
> > As everyone else here understands already, we have a great deal of under utilized electrical generation in most parts of the world. In addition we are adding both wind and solar power generation.
> >
> > While the under informed are predicting massive lithium shortages, I'm not seeing anyone predicting shortages of electric generation.
> >
> > Here are some numbers if the math is not too much for you. The average miles driven in the US is 14,000 a year. That's about 38 miles per day or 9..5 kWh using 4 miles/kWh as a typical BEV consumption. I can plug my BEV into a 120V outlet for less than 10 hours a night to charge this much. Yeah, at night when the electrical generating capacity is very, very underutilized.
> >
> > What's even better about charging BEVs, is the fact that, to use the term which is applied to generation that is started up quickly, BEV charging is dispatchable, in this case meaning the charge time is typically flexible.. Driving 40 miles a day means your battery will hold up for a number of days, allowing you to postpone charging until renewable power is in excess supply or the prices are low. I expect a means of coordinating charging with the availability of power will become the norm, no matter where you are plugged in. You will tell your car your expected driving for the next few days and the car will work to accommodate that. We may find this turns into an electronic auction yielding low prices for consumers and evening out the electrical demand for the suppliers.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Ricky C.
> >
> > - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
>
> The Sun is not out at night, and winds are highest in the afternoon, if there is any wind at all. What is required is a major shift to nuclear.

Nuclear can't be designed to rapidly shift output to match the load. It's also the most expensive energy on earth with new facilities costing more every year. In fact, recent construction seems to work on an asymptotic schedule where every X amount of time the schedule is increased by kX. Like Xeno's paradox.

Why do you see the lack of sunshine at night to be a problem for solar energy? If we are going to have to install massive amounts of energy storage to make nuclear energy work, why not install the same amount of storage and use it with solar and wind saving huge amounts of money in the process?

Doesn't that make sense to you?

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On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 10:55:20 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 00:27:09 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
> <fizzbin...@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
>
> >bitrex wrote:
> >> On 3/18/2022 12:57 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
> >>> In article <n6d93hh06f3l5rsk5...@4ax.com>,
> >>> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com says...
> >>>>
> >>>> The US was never an empire like England and Spain and China and
> >>>> Japan. All the states chose to be states. We didn't have much of a
> >>>> colonial empire, and don't hold any territory by force.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I would say the war between the states (Civel War) held many states
> >>> by force.
> >>> Wasn't Texas taken from Mexico ?
> >>
> >> Some would say all of America was taken from lots of people, lol
> >
> >And everywhere else is populated by the original inhabitants.
> Don't ignore animal rights! Nasty invasive humans killed off the
> native animal populations who owned the land, well, everywhere.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_animals_extinct_in_the_Holocene
>
> and that's just North America.
>
> Some of the extinction may have been natural, but hunter-gatherers
> sure didn't help.
>
> Do "original inhabitants" own the land?

With the conversation being about electric cars in Europe, why is this guy on his soapbox about extinct species???

I don't get how his mind works.

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On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 9:55:20 AM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 00:27:09 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
> <fizzbin...@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
>
> >bitrex wrote:
> >> On 3/18/2022 12:57 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
> >>> In article <n6d93hh06f3l5rsk5...@4ax.com>,
> >>> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com says...
> >>>>
> >>>> The US was never an empire like England and Spain and China and
> >>>> Japan. All the states chose to be states. We didn't have much of a
> >>>> colonial empire, and don't hold any territory by force.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I would say the war between the states (Civel War) held many states
> >>> by force.
> >>> Wasn't Texas taken from Mexico ?
> >>
> >> Some would say all of America was taken from lots of people, lol
> >
> >And everywhere else is populated by the original inhabitants.
> Don't ignore animal rights! Nasty invasive humans killed off the
> native animal populations who owned the land, well, everywhere.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_animals_extinct_in_the_Holocene
>
> and that's just North America.
>
> Some of the extinction may have been natural, but hunter-gatherers
> sure didn't help.
>
> Do "original inhabitants" own the land?
>
What about herderers
they have an impact too I bet

I myself prefer a nice bit of cheese

My favorite
If you look at the label closely it says cows milk even though “goat” is in the brand name
The other is $48 for large quantity which I guess if I can’t find in store will have to do

mk5000

Dreams have only one owner at a time. That’s why dreamers are lonely.

William Faulkner

On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 11:20:06 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Fri, 18 Mar 2022 09:51:29 -0700) it happened
> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in

> >The US was never an empire like England and Spain and China and Japan.
> >All the states chose to be states. We didn't have much of a colonial
> >empire, and don't hold any territory by force.

> They US is basically a bunch of robbers
> They took so many countries by force, invaded those, forced government changes,
> Starting with - yes- the Native Americans.
> bombing Vietnam, invading Iraq, there is no end to it.

Explain, then, that the Phillippines, Panama Canal Zone, Marshall Islands,
asked to be released, and... got their wish. Peacefully.
Puerto Rico voted not to ask for either release or statehood.

US foreign policy doesn't include random grabs, none in recent history. Even
old acquisitions, like Texas and Hawaii, were nominally unattached when
they asked for inclusion. Purchases, like Louisiana and Alaska, were
more-or-less pure, though the Gadsden purchase has some rough edges.

On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 6:29:54 PM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:
> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 11:20:06 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> > On a sunny day (Fri, 18 Mar 2022 09:51:29 -0700) it happened
> > jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
> > >The US was never an empire like England and Spain and China and Japan.
> > >All the states chose to be states. We didn't have much of a colonial
> > >empire, and don't hold any territory by force.
> > They US is basically a bunch of robbers
> > They took so many countries by force, invaded those, forced government changes,
> > Starting with - yes- the Native Americans.
> > bombing Vietnam, invading Iraq, there is no end to it.
>
> Explain, then, that the Phillippines, Panama Canal Zone, Marshall Islands,
> asked to be released, and... got their wish. Peacefully.
> Puerto Rico voted not to ask for either release or statehood.
>
> US foreign policy doesn't include random grabs, none in recent history. Even
> old acquisitions, like Texas and Hawaii, were nominally unattached when
> they asked for inclusion. Purchases, like Louisiana and Alaska, were
> more-or-less pure, though the Gadsden purchase has some rough edges.

The only reason why Texas consented to be part of the union is because Mexico still considered them to be part of Mexico and being part of the US would be the lesser of two evils. There was also the possibility of not actually getting a choice as was the case in Hawaii. I assume you aren't aware of the history of Hawaii since you seem to be saying they joined voluntarily.. I think it was voluntary with a figurative gun at their head... of state.. I'm not saying anyone pointed a gun toward Texas, but I believe it was indicated that could happen if they didn't join voluntarily.

Of the people I've asked in Puerto Rico, many say they would prefer to be part of Spain. I haven't heard that is on the table. It's not like being part of the US is doing a lot for them other than allowing residents to freely travel and work in the mainland. Many take up that option, in particular after Maria. Four years later, it is clear how deep the scar runs. I've grown attached to the place. I hope they can recoup some of the lost talent.

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On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 6:49:42 PM UTC-7, Rickster wrote:
> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 6:29:54 PM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:
> > ...acquisitions, like Texas and Hawaii, were nominally unattached when
> > they asked for inclusion.

> The only reason why Texas consented to be part of the union is because Mexico still considered them to be part of Mexico and being part of the US would be the lesser of two evils. There was also the possibility of not actually getting a choice as was the case in Hawaii. I assume you aren't aware of the history of Hawaii since you seem to be saying they joined voluntarily.. I think it was voluntary with a figurative gun at their head... of state. I'm not saying anyone pointed a gun toward Texas, but I believe it was indicated that could happen if they didn't join voluntarily.

The Hawaii situation was unknown to US officialdom until that coup (by a mixed group,
probably including the US ambassador) was complete.
Grover Cleveland didn't approve, and even tried to undo the coup... didn't work.
The next president annexed Hawaii; the queen had formally abdicated by then..
I'd say 'nominally unattached' fits the situation.

On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 2:28:33 AM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:
> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 6:49:42 PM UTC-7, Rickster wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 6:29:54 PM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:
> > > ...acquisitions, like Texas and Hawaii, were nominally unattached when
> > > they asked for inclusion.
> > The only reason why Texas consented to be part of the union is because Mexico still considered them to be part of Mexico and being part of the US would be the lesser of two evils. There was also the possibility of not actually getting a choice as was the case in Hawaii. I assume you aren't aware of the history of Hawaii since you seem to be saying they joined voluntarily. I think it was voluntary with a figurative gun at their head... of state. I'm not saying anyone pointed a gun toward Texas, but I believe it was indicated that could happen if they didn't join voluntarily.
> The Hawaii situation was unknown to US officialdom until that coup (by a mixed group,
> probably including the US ambassador) was complete.
> Grover Cleveland didn't approve, and even tried to undo the coup... didn't work.
> The next president annexed Hawaii; the queen had formally abdicated by then.
> I'd say 'nominally unattached' fits the situation.

Perhaps you could explain what you mean by "nominally unattached"? If you mean unattached from the US, I'm not following what distinction you are trying to make.

While Dole, et. al. were the individuals who physically took over the country, it was with support and full knowledge of many in the US government who wanted to annex Hawaii to keep it out of the hands of others. Of course, Dole's interest was purely commercial. Not even a month after Dole's coup, the US Minister to the island nation, officially recognized Dole's government and declared Hawaii a US protectorate, of his own accord.

It is pretty obvious that even with Cleveland not being in support of the action, it was an inevitable act as it was just too irresistible to the US. That's why Cleveland's desire to reverse the actions of the coup was ultimately frustrated. The important fact is that at no point did Hawaiians ask or desire to be part of the US. While it was bloodless, it was no less a hostile takeover than an invasion.

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On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 9:03:43 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/03/18/great-reset-germany-wants-eu-ban-on-sale-of-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2035/

US and Cal also.

So, who are we going to call for help?

I am stuck overnight between chargers. The rest stop with charger is closed. Of course, there is no way to find that out except when approaching the area. Otherwise, i would have charged-up somewhere else.

Fortunately, i signed up for "Good Sam" (AAA equiv) two days ago. Now waiting for the 48 hours activation period.

Good Sam offer unlimited mile towing (i need 7 miles today). AAA (5 miles) is too short and AAA+ (100 miles) is too much.

On a sunny day (Mon, 21 Mar 2022 05:35:05 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Ed Lee
<edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in
<6e9b76e4-5310-45e3-a6a7-d65f6051cd0fn@googlegroups.com>:

>On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 9:03:43 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/03/18/great-reset-germany-wants-eu-ban-on-sale-of-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2035/
>
>US and Cal also.
>
>So, who are we going to call for help?
>
>I am stuck overnight between chargers. The rest stop with charger is closed. Of course, there is no way to find that out
>except when approaching the area. Otherwise, i would have charged-up somewhere else.
>
>Fortunately, i signed up for "Good Sam" (AAA equiv) two days ago. Now waiting for the 48 hours activation period.
>
>Good Sam offer unlimited mile towing (i need 7 miles today). AAA (5 miles) is too short and AAA+ (100 miles) is too much.

Seems people are working on 100% solar
https://lightyear.one/lightyear-one

On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 05:35:05 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
<edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 9:03:43 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/03/18/great-reset-germany-wants-eu-ban-on-sale-of-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2035/
>
>US and Cal also.
>
>So, who are we going to call for help?
>
>I am stuck overnight between chargers. The rest stop with charger is closed. Of course, there is no way to find that out except when approaching the area. Otherwise, i would have charged-up somewhere else.

Is that situation hypothetical or real?

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On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 05:35:05 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
> <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 9:03:43 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> >> https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/03/18/great-reset-germany-wants-eu-ban-on-sale-of-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2035/
> >
> >US and Cal also.
> >
> >So, who are we going to call for help?
> >
> >I am stuck overnight between chargers. The rest stop with charger is closed. Of course, there is no way to find that out except when approaching the area. Otherwise, i would have charged-up somewhere else.
> Is that situation hypothetical or real?

Real. Plugshare show the charger available, but no way to get to it without running the blockage.

On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 13:32:03 -0700 (PDT), M Kfivethousand
<marika5000@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 9:55:20 AM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 00:27:09 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
>> <fizzbin...@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
>>
>> >bitrex wrote:
>> >> On 3/18/2022 12:57 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
>> >>> In article <n6d93hh06f3l5rsk5...@4ax.com>,
>> >>> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com says...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The US was never an empire like England and Spain and China and
>> >>>> Japan. All the states chose to be states. We didn't have much of a
>> >>>> colonial empire, and don't hold any territory by force.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I would say the war between the states (Civel War) held many states
>> >>> by force.
>> >>> Wasn't Texas taken from Mexico ?
>> >>
>> >> Some would say all of America was taken from lots of people, lol
>> >
>> >And everywhere else is populated by the original inhabitants.
>> Don't ignore animal rights! Nasty invasive humans killed off the
>> native animal populations who owned the land, well, everywhere.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_animals_extinct_in_the_Holocene
>>
>> and that's just North America.
>>
>> Some of the extinction may have been natural, but hunter-gatherers
>> sure didn't help.
>>
>> Do "original inhabitants" own the land?
>>
>What about herderers
>they have an impact too I bet
>
>I myself prefer a nice bit of cheese

The US used to be a cheese desert, but things are better now. Sartori
makes great parmesan. Cowgirl Creamery makes fun stuff. Tillamook
cheddars are good.

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but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 8:55:27 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Mon, 21 Mar 2022 05:35:05 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Ed Lee
> <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
> <6e9b76e4-5310-45e3...@googlegroups.com>:
> >On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 9:03:43 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> >> https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/03/18/great-reset-germany-wants-eu-ban-on-sale-of-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2035/
> >
> >US and Cal also.
> >
> >So, who are we going to call for help?
> >
> >I am stuck overnight between chargers. The rest stop with charger is closed. Of course, there is no way to find that out
> >except when approaching the area. Otherwise, i would have charged-up somewhere else.
> >
> >Fortunately, i signed up for "Good Sam" (AAA equiv) two days ago. Now waiting for the 48 hours activation period.
> >
> >Good Sam offer unlimited mile towing (i need 7 miles today). AAA (5 miles) is too short and AAA+ (100 miles) is too much.
> Seems people are working on 100% solar
> https://lightyear.one/lightyear-one

There numbers do work out to allow adequate charging from the sun in most regions of the US... when it isn't blocked by weather. They talk about 7.5 mi of range per hour. Where I am in midatlantic has a bit over 4 peak hours of sunlight per day, or 30 miles of range, about the average drive.

What is really impressive, is the consumption. They list 134 kW/mi which is the lowest I've ever heard of. The model 3 gets around 250 Wh/mi and sometimes up to 200 Wh/mi.

Interesting.

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On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 1:34:37 PM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
> On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 7:20:41 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 05:35:05 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
> > <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 9:03:43 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> > >> https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/03/18/great-reset-germany-wants-eu-ban-on-sale-of-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2035/
> > >
> > >US and Cal also.
> > >
> > >So, who are we going to call for help?
> > >
> > >I am stuck overnight between chargers. The rest stop with charger is closed. Of course, there is no way to find that out except when approaching the area. Otherwise, i would have charged-up somewhere else.
> > Is that situation hypothetical or real?
> Real. Plugshare show the charger available, but no way to get to it without running the blockage.

Plugshare is updated by users who wish to contribute, like reviews on Google maps.

The Tesla data is a lot more accurate, as their chargers are connected to their system in real time.

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jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 05:35:05 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
> <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 9:03:43 AM UTC-7,
>>jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>> https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/03/18/great-reset-germany-wants-e
>>> u-ban-on-sale-of-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2035/
>>
>>US and Cal also.
>>
>>So, who are we going to call for help?
>>
>>I am stuck overnight between chargers. The rest stop with charger is
>>closed. Of course, there is no way to find that out except when
>>approaching the area. Otherwise, i would have charged-up somewhere
>>else.
>
> Is that situation hypothetical or real?

Or you arrive and the charger is out of service. Many companies sell
hybrids. Hopefully they will come to their senses and continue sales.

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On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 8:00:53 PM UTC-4, Mike Monett wrote:
> jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 05:35:05 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
> > <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 9:03:43 AM UTC-7,
> >>jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> >>> https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/03/18/great-reset-germany-wants-e
> >>> u-ban-on-sale-of-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2035/
> >>
> >>US and Cal also.
> >>
> >>So, who are we going to call for help?
> >>
> >>I am stuck overnight between chargers. The rest stop with charger is
> >>closed. Of course, there is no way to find that out except when
> >>approaching the area. Otherwise, i would have charged-up somewhere
> >>else.
> >
> > Is that situation hypothetical or real?
> Or you arrive and the charger is out of service. Many companies sell
> hybrids. Hopefully they will come to their senses and continue sales.

I've put 43,000 miles on my BEV with over 90% of that charged at Superchargers. I've NEVER had a problem of not being able to charge because of any sort of failure. I'm not saying that chargers don't break. I've seen that. I'm saying that there is always more than one charger at a location so the relatively low failure rate does not impact charger availability in any significant way.

It seems like you are just biased about BEVs, independent of the facts.

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On 3/20/2022 11:01 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 00:38:55 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
> <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
>
>> jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>> https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/03/18/great-reset-germany-wants-eu-ban-on-sale-of-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2035/
>>>
>>>
>>> I wonder where the electricity will come from. Large-scale generating
>>> and distribution systems take a long time to build. And need fuel.
>>
>> They didn't say they wanted to replace the cars with anything. They said
>> only that they wanted to eliminate the cars.
>>
>> Biden phrased it the same way. They intend for you to use a bus or a
>> bicycle, but they won't say what they really want.
>
> Good point. Owning a car grants freedoms to the masses, and our wise
> leadership doesn't want that.
>
> When I was in the Moscow, all the cars had to pull over whan a fat cat
> Party member zoomed by in the left lane in his limo. I think the left
> lane was actually reserved for them.
>
> We underlings are slowing down the elites. We should be on trains or
> bicycles.

Have you seen what the e.g. sleeper trains in Japan look like? And
unlike Amtrak they don't even cost an arm and a leg to ride on rattly
rails and get a complimentary Dunkin Donuts coffee for $389 one-way.

<https://youtu.be/KG53Pr3pFg4>

I would ride this to visit my buddy in Chicago every time if this class
of service were available in the US, what's so "freedom" about driving.
The highways are clogged up with idiot morons you just put your life and
tens of thousands worth of car on the line anytime you go significant
distance, and us young Gen Xers don't have that many paid-off assets to
spare...

On 3/20/2022 12:38 AM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>> https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/03/18/great-reset-germany-wants-eu-ban-on-sale-of-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2035/
>>
>>
>> I wonder where the electricity will come from. Large-scale generating
>> and distribution systems take a long time to build. And need fuel.
>
> They didn't say they wanted to replace the cars with anything. They said
> only that they wanted to eliminate the cars.
>
> Biden phrased it the same way. They intend for you to use a bus or a
> bicycle, but they won't say what they really want.

Yes, sounds like America to me. It's not the taxes that are the problem,
it's that paying them is such a lousy value for the money. Yeah
eliminate cars, to be replaced with, y'know. Whatever.

No, I'm not in favor of AoC's plan to "tax the rich" if the intent is to
spend it all on 500 gajillion worth of hi-tech defense junk like a
drunken sailor on booze & hookers, what's the point. But by the look of
things that IS the plan at this point.

On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 10:29:42 PM UTC-7, Rickster wrote:
> On Monday, March 21, 2022 at 8:00:53 PM UTC-4, Mike Monett wrote:
> > jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 05:35:05 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
> > > <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 9:03:43 AM UTC-7,
> > >>jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> > >>> https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/03/18/great-reset-germany-wants-e
> > >>> u-ban-on-sale-of-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2035/
> > >>
> > >>US and Cal also.
> > >>
> > >>So, who are we going to call for help?
> > >>
> > >>I am stuck overnight between chargers. The rest stop with charger is
> > >>closed. Of course, there is no way to find that out except when
> > >>approaching the area. Otherwise, i would have charged-up somewhere
> > >>else.
> > >
> > > Is that situation hypothetical or real?
> > Or you arrive and the charger is out of service. Many companies sell
> > hybrids. Hopefully they will come to their senses and continue sales.
> I've put 43,000 miles on my BEV with over 90% of that charged at Superchargers. I've NEVER had a problem of not being able to charge because of any sort of failure. I'm not saying that chargers don't break. I've seen that. I'm saying that there is always more than one charger at a location so the relatively low failure rate does not impact charger availability in any significant way.

I think there are two working chargers there, but the whole rest area is closed.

Anyway, i signed up for "Good Sam" road service before the trip. I was expecting to use it up hill out of LA, 25 miles from 2000 feet to 5000 feet. Didn't expect to use it so soon.

First cop came at 5am, woke me up and told me to leave. I said i am calling the tow truck.

Second cop came at 7am. She gave me 4 hours before she is calling their tow truck.

After several phone calls to "Good Sam", finally got a pickup with flat back trailer. But my front wheels are locked without power to steer or put gear in neutral. He had to pull it up with the wheel locked.

Came to charging place. Plug it in and nothing happen. My 12V battery is also drained. No charging circuit or power relay. I had to wire up jumper spare battery to enable 12V than charge. The main was down to 10%. At 15%, i can at least shift to neutral, drop the car down.

The tow driver was constantly on the phone to his office, complaining about the time it's taking. I gave home $20 tips.

Is the public ready for EV? Are we there yet?

In article <c1dca867-d42c-4fff-aac2-85d31ca53f90n@googlegroups.com>,
edward.ming.lee@gmail.com says...
>
> I think there are two working chargers there, but the whole rest area is closed.
>
> Anyway, i signed up for "Good Sam" road service before the trip. I was expecting to use it up hill out of LA, 25 miles from 2000 feet to 5000 feet. Didn't expect to use it so soon.
>
> First cop came at 5am, woke me up and told me to leave. I said i am calling the tow truck.
>
> Second cop came at 7am. She gave me 4 hours before she is calling their tow truck.
>
> After several phone calls to "Good Sam", finally got a pickup with flat back trailer. But my front wheels are locked without power to steer or put gear in neutral. He had to pull it up with the wheel locked.
>
> Came to charging place. Plug it in and nothing happen. My 12V battery is also drained. No charging circuit or power relay. I had to wire up jumper spare battery to enable 12V than charge. The main was down to 10%. At 15%, i can at least shift to neutral, drop the car down.
>
> The tow driver was constantly on the phone to his office, complaining about the time it's taking. I gave home $20 tips.
>
> Is the public ready for EV? Are we there yet?
>
>

Looks like the tow trucks are going to have to install large generators
so they can charge you up in an hour or so to get you going again. Sort
of like them bring you a 5 gallon can of gas for the gas cars when you
run out. How long would it take for say a 10 kw generator like you can
buy for your house to charge the car up to run for an hour or so if you
do not run the heat or air ?