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* Usenet's Greatest Poet / gjdGeorge J. Dance
+* Re: Usenet's Greatest Poet / gjdHC
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Re: Usenet's Greatest Poet / gjd

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Subject: Re: Usenet's Greatest Poet / gjd
From: yogibare...@gmail.com (HC)
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 by: HC - Wed, 15 Jun 2022 21:52 UTC

On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 5:06:01 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 11:28:32 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > No, this statement of yours is definitely ignorant, Pendragon:
> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/49a7-W02I0E/ydzf1mrlCgAJ
> >
> > > Speaking of mind-boggling ignorance, Michael Pendragon has plenty of it to spare:
> >
> > "I'd simply burn the garbage churned out by no-talent phonies like Bukowski, Kerouac and Ginsberg." -Michael Pendragon
> Speaking of mind-boggling ignorance, Will Dockery has plenty of it to spare, let us not forget:
>
> "Yes, the package looked good, your poetry is mostly garbage, as usual, Corey. Sad but true."
> Will Dockery, November 26, 2021 at 3:56:54 PM UTC-5
> "New Look" thread by HC
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/8RlRmu_B-XU/m/rqxACRojBQAJ

‘“The Hymns of Hieronymous707: A Diversion In Verse’ is a collection of
rhyming poems about caregiving, and is intended for mature audiences.”

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From: ashwurth...@gmail.com (Ash Wurthing)
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 by: Ash Wurthing - Wed, 15 Jun 2022 21:55 UTC

On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 5:52:04 PM UTC-4, HC wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 5:06:01 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 11:28:32 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > No, this statement of yours is definitely ignorant, Pendragon:
> > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/49a7-W02I0E/ydzf1mrlCgAJ
> > >
> > > > Speaking of mind-boggling ignorance, Michael Pendragon has plenty of it to spare:
> > >
> > > "I'd simply burn the garbage churned out by no-talent phonies like Bukowski, Kerouac and Ginsberg." -Michael Pendragon
> > Speaking of mind-boggling ignorance, Will Dockery has plenty of it to spare, let us not forget:
> >
> > "Yes, the package looked good, your poetry is mostly garbage, as usual, Corey. Sad but true."
> > Will Dockery, November 26, 2021 at 3:56:54 PM UTC-5
> > "New Look" thread by HC
> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/8RlRmu_B-XU/m/rqxACRojBQAJ
> ‘“The Hymns of Hieronymous707: A Diversion In Verse’ is a collection of
> rhyming poems about caregiving, and is intended for mature audiences.”

That needs to be the opening to your book... : )

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 by: Ash Wurthing - Wed, 15 Jun 2022 22:06 UTC

On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 5:10:34 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 5:06:01 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 11:28:32 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > No, this statement of yours is definitely ignorant, Pendragon:
> > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/49a7-W02I0E/ydzf1mrlCgAJ
> > >
> > > > Speaking of mind-boggling ignorance, Michael Pendragon has plenty of it to spare:
> > >
> > > "I'd simply burn the garbage churned out by no-talent phonies like Bukowski, Kerouac and Ginsberg." -Michael Pendragon
> > Speaking of mind-boggling ignorance, Will Dockery has plenty of it to spare, let us not forget:
> >
> > "Yes, the package looked good, your poetry is mostly garbage, as usual, Corey. Sad but true."
> No fantasies of book burning, though.
>
> 🙂
> > Will Dockery, November 26, 2021 at 3:56:54 PM UTC-5
> > "New Look" thread by HC
> > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/8RlRmu_B-XU/m/rqxACRojBQAJ

But it makes you a hypocrite, if what Pendragon says is so bad, why do you do it? You prove yourself to be everything you accuse Pendragon of being.

If you don't want me to call your work garbage as well, in according with your poetry asshole opinion rule , I expect a retraction of what you said about HC's work or you and any new comer will never hear the end of it...

You're hardly any kind of authority to call someone's work garbage when you cannot prove that it is. It is merely you holding a grudge against HC and speaking spitefully like a petty ass.

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 by: HC - Wed, 15 Jun 2022 22:18 UTC

On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 5:55:54 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 5:52:04 PM UTC-4, HC wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 5:06:01 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 11:28:32 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > No, this statement of yours is definitely ignorant, Pendragon:
> > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/49a7-W02I0E/ydzf1mrlCgAJ
> > > >
> > > > > Speaking of mind-boggling ignorance, Michael Pendragon has plenty of it to spare:
> > > >
> > > > "I'd simply burn the garbage churned out by no-talent phonies like Bukowski, Kerouac and Ginsberg." -Michael Pendragon
> > > Speaking of mind-boggling ignorance, Will Dockery has plenty of it to spare, let us not forget:
> > >
> > > "Yes, the package looked good, your poetry is mostly garbage, as usual, Corey. Sad but true."
> > > Will Dockery, November 26, 2021 at 3:56:54 PM UTC-5
> > > "New Look" thread by HC
> > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/8RlRmu_B-XU/m/rqxACRojBQAJ
> > ‘“The Hymns of Hieronymous707: A Diversion In Verse’ is a collection of
> > rhyming poems about caregiving, and is intended for mature audiences.”
> That needs to be the opening to your book... : )

Thanks, that’s where I put it.

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On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 6:06:26 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 5:10:34 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 5:06:01 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 11:28:32 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > No, this statement of yours is definitely ignorant, Pendragon:
> > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/49a7-W02I0E/ydzf1mrlCgAJ
> > > >
> > > > > Speaking of mind-boggling ignorance, Michael Pendragon has plenty of it to spare:
> > > >
> > > > "I'd simply burn the garbage churned out by no-talent phonies like Bukowski, Kerouac and Ginsberg." -Michael Pendragon
> > > Speaking of mind-boggling ignorance, Will Dockery has plenty of it to spare, let us not forget:
> > >
> > > "Yes, the package looked good, your poetry is mostly garbage, as usual, Corey. Sad but true."
> > No fantasies of book burning, though.
> >
> > 🙂
> > > Will Dockery, November 26, 2021 at 3:56:54 PM UTC-5
> > > "New Look" thread by HC
> > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/8RlRmu_B-XU/m/rqxACRojBQAJ
> But it makes you a hypocrite, if what Pendragon says is so bad, why do you do it

I don't do what Pendragon does, I have no fantasies of burning books of poetry.

Try to keep up.

🙂

? You prove yourself to be everything you accuse Pendragon of being.
>
> If you don't want me to call your work garbage as well, in according with your poetry asshole opinion rule , I expect a retraction of what you said about HC's work or you and any new comer will never hear the end of it...
>
> You're hardly any kind of authority to call someone's work garbage when you cannot prove that it is. It is merely you holding a grudge against HC and speaking spitefully like a petty ass.

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On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 2:56:03 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 6:06:26 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 5:10:34 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 5:06:01 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 11:28:32 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > No, this statement of yours is definitely ignorant, Pendragon:
> > > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/49a7-W02I0E/ydzf1mrlCgAJ
> > > > >
> > > > > > Speaking of mind-boggling ignorance, Michael Pendragon has plenty of it to spare:
> > > > >
> > > > > "I'd simply burn the garbage churned out by no-talent phonies like Bukowski, Kerouac and Ginsberg." -Michael Pendragon
> > > > Speaking of mind-boggling ignorance, Will Dockery has plenty of it to spare, let us not forget:
> > > >
> > > > "Yes, the package looked good, your poetry is mostly garbage, as usual, Corey. Sad but true."
> > > No fantasies of book burning, though.
> > >
> > > 🙂
> > > > Will Dockery, November 26, 2021 at 3:56:54 PM UTC-5
> > > > "New Look" thread by HC
> > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/8RlRmu_B-XU/m/rqxACRojBQAJ
> > But it makes you a hypocrite, if what Pendragon says is so bad, why do you do it
> I don't do what Pendragon does, I have no fantasies of burning books of poetry.
>
> Try to keep up.
>
> 🙂
> ? You prove yourself to be everything you accuse Pendragon of being.
> >
> > If you don't want me to call your work garbage as well, in according with your poetry asshole opinion rule , I expect a retraction of what you said about HC's work or you and any new comer will never hear the end of it...
> >
> > You're hardly any kind of authority to call someone's work garbage when you cannot prove that it is. It is merely you holding a grudge against HC and speaking spitefully like a petty ass.

Ash is simply drawing a parallel between Michael’s book burning comment and your garbage comment.

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 by: HC - Thu, 16 Jun 2022 10:02 UTC

On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 4:42:56 AM UTC-4, HC wrote:
> On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 2:56:03 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 6:06:26 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 5:10:34 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 5:06:01 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 11:28:32 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > No, this statement of yours is definitely ignorant, Pendragon:
> > > > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/49a7-W02I0E/ydzf1mrlCgAJ
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Speaking of mind-boggling ignorance, Michael Pendragon has plenty of it to spare:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "I'd simply burn the garbage churned out by no-talent phonies like Bukowski, Kerouac and Ginsberg." -Michael Pendragon
> > > > > Speaking of mind-boggling ignorance, Will Dockery has plenty of it to spare, let us not forget:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Yes, the package looked good, your poetry is mostly garbage, as usual, Corey. Sad but true."
> > > > No fantasies of book burning, though.
> > > >
> > > > 🙂
> > > > > Will Dockery, November 26, 2021 at 3:56:54 PM UTC-5
> > > > > "New Look" thread by HC
> > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/8RlRmu_B-XU/m/rqxACRojBQAJ
> > > But it makes you a hypocrite, if what Pendragon says is so bad, why do you do it
> > I don't do what Pendragon does, I have no fantasies of burning books of poetry.
> >
> > Try to keep up.
> >
> > 🙂
> > ? You prove yourself to be everything you accuse Pendragon of being.
> > >
> > > If you don't want me to call your work garbage as well, in according with your poetry asshole opinion rule , I expect a retraction of what you said about HC's work or you and any new comer will never hear the end of it....
> > >
> > > You're hardly any kind of authority to call someone's work garbage when you cannot prove that it is. It is merely you holding a grudge against HC and speaking spitefully like a petty ass.
> Ash is simply drawing a parallel between Michael’s book burning comment and your garbage comment.

Reading Ash has been my pleasure,
but one man’s trash is another man’s treasure,
and garbage in means garbage out,
so garbage must define itself, no doubt.

Burning garbage is no solution,
because that causes air pollution,
so we take ours to the local landfill
where it gets buried in a great big hill.

How else do you suppose
garbage should be disposed?

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 by: HC - Thu, 16 Jun 2022 10:24 UTC

On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 6:02:41 AM UTC-4, HC wrote:
> On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 4:42:56 AM UTC-4, HC wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 2:56:03 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 6:06:26 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 5:10:34 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 5:06:01 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 11:28:32 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > No, this statement of yours is definitely ignorant, Pendragon:
> > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/49a7-W02I0E/ydzf1mrlCgAJ
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Speaking of mind-boggling ignorance, Michael Pendragon has plenty of it to spare:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "I'd simply burn the garbage churned out by no-talent phonies like Bukowski, Kerouac and Ginsberg." -Michael Pendragon
> > > > > > Speaking of mind-boggling ignorance, Will Dockery has plenty of it to spare, let us not forget:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Yes, the package looked good, your poetry is mostly garbage, as usual, Corey. Sad but true."
> > > > > No fantasies of book burning, though.
> > > > >
> > > > > 🙂
> > > > > > Will Dockery, November 26, 2021 at 3:56:54 PM UTC-5
> > > > > > "New Look" thread by HC
> > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/8RlRmu_B-XU/m/rqxACRojBQAJ
> > > > But it makes you a hypocrite, if what Pendragon says is so bad, why do you do it
> > > I don't do what Pendragon does, I have no fantasies of burning books of poetry.
> > >
> > > Try to keep up.
> > >
> > > 🙂
> > > ? You prove yourself to be everything you accuse Pendragon of being.
> > > >
> > > > If you don't want me to call your work garbage as well, in according with your poetry asshole opinion rule , I expect a retraction of what you said about HC's work or you and any new comer will never hear the end of it...
> > > >
> > > > You're hardly any kind of authority to call someone's work garbage when you cannot prove that it is. It is merely you holding a grudge against HC and speaking spitefully like a petty ass.
> > Ash is simply drawing a parallel between Michael’s book burning comment and your garbage comment.
> Reading Ash has been my pleasure,
> but one man’s trash is another man’s treasure,
> and garbage in means garbage out,
> so garbage must define itself, no doubt.
>
> Burning garbage is no solution,
> because that causes air pollution,
> so we take ours to the local landfill
> where it gets buried in a great big hill.
>
> How else do you suppose
> garbage should be disposed?

Instead of burning books like Michael,
it may be better that we recycle
our ‘garbage’ poems, ‘trashy’ prose,
and other dirty words like those.

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 by: Michael Pendragon - Thu, 16 Jun 2022 13:22 UTC

On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 4:42:56 AM UTC-4, HC wrote:
> On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 2:56:03 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 6:06:26 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 5:10:34 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 5:06:01 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 11:28:32 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > No, this statement of yours is definitely ignorant, Pendragon:
> > > > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/49a7-W02I0E/ydzf1mrlCgAJ
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Speaking of mind-boggling ignorance, Michael Pendragon has plenty of it to spare:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "I'd simply burn the garbage churned out by no-talent phonies like Bukowski, Kerouac and Ginsberg." -Michael Pendragon
> > > > > Speaking of mind-boggling ignorance, Will Dockery has plenty of it to spare, let us not forget:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Yes, the package looked good, your poetry is mostly garbage, as usual, Corey. Sad but true."
> > > > No fantasies of book burning, though.
> > > >
> > > > 🙂
> > > > > Will Dockery, November 26, 2021 at 3:56:54 PM UTC-5
> > > > > "New Look" thread by HC
> > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/8RlRmu_B-XU/m/rqxACRojBQAJ
> > > But it makes you a hypocrite, if what Pendragon says is so bad, why do you do it
> > I don't do what Pendragon does, I have no fantasies of burning books of poetry.
> >
> > Try to keep up.
> >
> > 🙂
> > ? You prove yourself to be everything you accuse Pendragon of being.
> > >
> > > If you don't want me to call your work garbage as well, in according with your poetry asshole opinion rule , I expect a retraction of what you said about HC's work or you and any new comer will never hear the end of it....
> > >
> > > You're hardly any kind of authority to call someone's work garbage when you cannot prove that it is. It is merely you holding a grudge against HC and speaking spitefully like a petty ass.
> Ash is simply drawing a parallel between Michael’s book burning comment and your garbage comment.
>

And rightly so.

Book burning = throwing books in the garbage

Back in the day we burned our garbage, the two are literally the same.

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I also named 5-6 poems by you that I think are good, Corey, while Pendragon has a fantasy of burning everything written by Charles Bukowski, Jack Kerouac and Allen Ginsberg, apparently.

Can Pendragon name five poems from Allen Ginsberg, Jack Kerouac and Charles Bukowski that are good, worth seeing?

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On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 9:55:14 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> I also named 5-6 poems by you that I think are good, Corey, while Pendragon has a fantasy of burning everything written by Charles Bukowski, Jack Kerouac and Allen Ginsberg, apparently.
>
> Can Pendragon name five poems from Allen Ginsberg, Jack Kerouac and Charles Bukowski that are good, worth seeing?
>

What have numbers got to do with it, Donkey?

You claim that any poems you don't like are garbage.

I claim that any poems I don't like are garbage.

If I dislike more poems than you, it's only that I have more discerning tastes.

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On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 9:55:14 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> I also named 5-6 poems by you that I think are good, Corey, while Pendragon has a fantasy of burning everything written by Charles Bukowski, Jack Kerouac and Allen Ginsberg, apparently.
>
> Can Pendragon name five poems from Allen Ginsberg, Jack Kerouac and Charles Bukowski that are good, worth seeing?

You have the "fantasy" that all but those 5-6 poems are "garbage".

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 by: W.Dockery - Thu, 16 Jun 2022 14:17 UTC

Charles Bukowski, Jack Kerouac and Allen Ginsberg are three of the most critically acclaimed and popular poets of the 20th Century, yet you want to burn all their poetry.

Since you're also an unknown and unsuccessful poet, it sounds like not only your poor taste in poetry causing your extreme reaction, but also some jealousy, Pendragon.

HTH and HAND.

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On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 10:02:41 AM UTC-4, HC wrote:
> On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 9:55:14 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
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> > I also named 5-6 poems by you that I think are good, Corey, while Pendragon has a fantasy of burning everything written by Charles Bukowski, Jack Kerouac and Allen Ginsberg, apparently.
> >
> > Can Pendragon name five poems from Allen Ginsberg, Jack Kerouac and Charles Bukowski that are good, worth seeing?
> You have the "fantasy" that all but those 5-6 poems are "garbage".

No, as I've read most of your poems over the years, I've found several that I like while most of your poems have been a waste of my time.

How many of my poems have you read that you've liked?

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 by: HC - Thu, 16 Jun 2022 14:29 UTC

On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 10:24:06 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 10:02:41 AM UTC-4, HC wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 9:55:14 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > I also named 5-6 poems by you that I think are good, Corey, while Pendragon has a fantasy of burning everything written by Charles Bukowski, Jack Kerouac and Allen Ginsberg, apparently.
> > >
> > > Can Pendragon name five poems from Allen Ginsberg, Jack Kerouac and Charles Bukowski that are good, worth seeing?
> > You have the "fantasy" that all but those 5-6 poems are "garbage".
> No, as I've read most of your poems over the years, I've found several that I like while most of your poems have been a waste of my time.
>
> How many of my poems have you read that you've liked?

The words “fantasy” and “garbage” are direct quotes.

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More like misquotes.

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On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 10:20:14 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Charles Bukowski, Jack Kerouac and Allen Ginsberg are three of the most critically acclaimed and popular poets of the 20th Century, yet you want to burn all their poetry.
>

Kerouac is not known for his poetry, Donkey.

Bukowski's popularity stems largely from his having been portrayed in the movies by Mickey Rourke.

Ginsberg was a fad 60-odd years ago. Today he's not widely read outside of the LGBT community.

I dislike all of their so-called poetry.

> Since you're also an unknown and unsuccessful poet, it sounds like not only your poor taste in poetry causing your extreme reaction, but also some jealousy, Pendragon.
>

You're much too stupid to try analyzing others, Donkey.

There are many late 20th/early 21st century poets whose work I admire immensely. I published them in "Penny Dreadful" and "Songs of Innocence," and nominated their poetry for Pushcart Awards.

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Your ignorance about the poetry of Charles Bukowski, Jack Kerouac and Allen Ginsberg is noted, Pendragon.

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On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 11:00:33 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> More like misquotes.

Post-edits are misquotes.

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I edit out lies and misrepresentations and set the record straight with the truth, as I've explained many times before.

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On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 11:36:33 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> I edit out lies and misrepresentations and set the record straight with the truth, as I've explained many times before.

Not really.

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You're entitled to your opinion, of course.

🙂

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On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 11:03:06 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 10:20:14 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Charles Bukowski, Jack Kerouac and Allen Ginsberg are three of the most critically acclaimed and popular poets of the 20th Century, yet you want to burn all their poetry.
> >
> Kerouac is not known for his poetry, Donkey.
>
> Bukowski's popularity stems largely from his having been portrayed in the movies by Mickey Rourke.
>
> Ginsberg was a fad 60-odd years ago. Today he's not widely read outside of the LGBT community.
>
> I dislike all of their so-called poetry.
> > Since you're also an unknown and unsuccessful poet, it sounds like not only your poor taste in poetry causing your extreme reaction, but also some jealousy, Pendragon.
> >
> You're much too stupid to try analyzing others, Donkey.
>
> There are many late 20th/early 21st century poets whose work I admire immensely. I published them in "Penny Dreadful" and "Songs of Innocence," and nominated their poetry for Pushcart Awards.

Oh yeah?

Well, I dislike dismissive blanket statements like “I dislike all of their so-called poetry.”
That’s just more of your typical hyperbolic nincompoopery, as far as I’m concerned.

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On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 11:44:30 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> You're entitled to your opinion, of course.
>
> 🙂

You’re not entitled to your own set of facts,
and the fact is that you don’t, “edit out lies
and misrepresentations and set the record
straight with the truth.” You misquote people.

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On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 11:44:32 AM UTC-4, HC wrote:
> On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 11:03:06 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 10:20:14 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Charles Bukowski, Jack Kerouac and Allen Ginsberg are three of the most critically acclaimed and popular poets of the 20th Century, yet you want to burn all their poetry.
> > >
> > Kerouac is not known for his poetry, Donkey.
> >
> > Bukowski's popularity stems largely from his having been portrayed in the movies by Mickey Rourke.
> >
> > Ginsberg was a fad 60-odd years ago. Today he's not widely read outside of the LGBT community.
> >
> > I dislike all of their so-called poetry.
> > > Since you're also an unknown and unsuccessful poet, it sounds like not only your poor taste in poetry causing your extreme reaction, but also some jealousy, Pendragon.
> > >
> > You're much too stupid to try analyzing others, Donkey.
> >
> > There are many late 20th/early 21st century poets whose work I admire immensely. I published them in "Penny Dreadful" and "Songs of Innocence," and nominated their poetry for Pushcart Awards.
> Oh yeah?
>
> Well, I dislike dismissive blanket statements like “I dislike all of their so-called poetry.”
> That’s just more of your typical hyperbolic nincompoopery, as far as I’m concerned.
>

Dismissive? Yes.

Blanket statement? No.

I have yet to read a poem by Kerouac, Bukowski or Ginsberg that I felt to be of any value.

Hyperbolic? No.

A) None of their poetry conforms to my definition of "poetry," and;
B) I am discussing my personal dislike of them, not their cultural or literary significance.

Nincompoopery? A bit... however, I doubt you will be able to present one example from each of their catalogs that will have any impact on my present view of their work.


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