keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
> On 11/07/2021 8:20 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>> On 11/07/2021 1:08 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 11/7/21 11:19 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 11/07/2021 12:53 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 6:19 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 7:25 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>> "keithr0" <user@account.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:ikpspfF97scU2@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 11:17 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/07/2021 4:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Xeno" <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ikkma7F968rU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/7/21 1:07 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/07/2021 10:10 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 09:15:04 +1000, Yosemite Sam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <felix@invalid.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ support for W10 will end in 2025, but literally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> millions of PC owners
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worldwide will be unable to upgrade to W11!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrH4zEBmztc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lots more vids about it on youtube and articles on the web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft has always made operating systems that require
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one to buy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new computers, then they can sell another operating system
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never a upgrade though always a downgrade.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best operating system was "Win 3.11", been downgraded ever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You're dreaming. The PC operating system was OS/2,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> followed by Windows 2000. Windows XP was, basically, Win2k,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with more automation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, the only real difference was in the desktop environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The underlying XP OS was the same as Win2k.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still, if OS/2 had made it in the marketplace.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS/2 died because it was marketed wrongly by *IBM*.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem wasn’t marketing, it was that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> had to replace everything you already had.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> True but it was a combination of both.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> OS/2 continued on for years inside IBM professional products.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And they sold fuck all of those. It was always a dud market wise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't think that you understand,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Corse I know what that means.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> by the professional market I mean mainframe and mini markets.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Duh.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's where IBM have always made the majority of their money.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Still sweet fuck all with OS/2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have no idea, OS/2 was used in controllers on the machinery that
>>>>>>> make the commercial world work. The PC world is just the periphery
>>>>>>> of that and toys for amateurs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL, OS/2 was an industry joke you clown.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> iirc OS/2 was good on early PC's. apps ran in their own memory space
>>>>> which made it very stable.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It died because of lack of general industry support. It wouldn't have
>>>> mattered how stable it was.
>>>>
>>> Like I have said, it didn't die, it carried on inside IBMs professional
>>> products. E.G. it was used in micro-channel PCs as the controllers for
>>> the later 3890 cheque sorters and IBMs rather weird automatic tape
>>> library that used a Fanuc industrial robot (Telstra had one). It was
>>> also used in Fujitsu ATMs.
>>
>>> Probably many other applications as well, its just that a lot of people
>>> here only know the PC side of the industry that would appear to include
>>> you and definitely includes Speed.
>>
>> Wrong as always with that later claim.
>
> So, what mainframe experience do you have?

You didn’t say mainframe, fuckwit.

I was doing it for decades before the PC
showed up, mostly with DEC minis and vaxes.

There you go again, face down in the mud, as always.

keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
> On 11/07/2021 8:27 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>> On 11/07/2021 7:08 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 11/07/2021 3:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 11/07/2021 1:08 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/7/21 11:19 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/07/2021 12:53 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 6:19 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 7:25 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> "keithr0" <user@account.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ikpspfF97scU2@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 11:17 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/07/2021 4:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Xeno" <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ikkma7F968rU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/7/21 1:07 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/07/2021 10:10 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 09:15:04 +1000, Yosemite Sam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <felix@invalid.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ support for W10 will end in 2025, but literally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> millions of PC owners
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worldwide will be unable to upgrade to W11!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrH4zEBmztc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lots more vids about it on youtube and articles on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft has always made operating systems that require
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one to buy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new computers, then they can sell another operating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system with it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never a upgrade though always a downgrade.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best operating system was "Win 3.11", been downgraded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever since.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You're dreaming. The PC operating system was OS/2,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> followed by Windows 2000. Windows XP was, basically,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Win2k, with more automation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, the only real difference was in the desktop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment. The underlying XP OS was the same as Win2k.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still, if OS/2 had made it in the marketplace.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS/2 died because it was marketed wrongly by *IBM*.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem wasn’t marketing, it was that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had to replace everything you already had.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True but it was a combination of both.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS/2 continued on for years inside IBM professional products.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And they sold fuck all of those. It was always a dud market
>>>>>>>>>>>> wise.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that you understand,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Corse I know what that means.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> by the professional market I mean mainframe and mini markets.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Duh.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's where IBM have always made the majority of their money.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Still sweet fuck all with OS/2
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You have no idea, OS/2 was used in controllers on the machinery
>>>>>>>>> that make the commercial world work. The PC world is just the
>>>>>>>>> periphery of that and toys for amateurs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LOL, OS/2 was an industry joke you clown.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> iirc OS/2 was good on early PC's. apps ran in their own memory space
>>>>>>> which made it very stable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It died because of lack of general industry support. It wouldn't have
>>>>>> mattered how stable it was.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Like I have said, it didn't die, it carried on inside IBMs
>>>>> professional products. E.G. it was used in micro-channel PCs as the
>>>>> controllers for the later 3890 cheque sorters and IBMs rather weird
>>>>> automatic tape library that used a Fanuc industrial robot (Telstra had
>>>>> one). It was also used in Fujitsu ATMs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably many other applications as well, its just that a lot of
>>>>> people here only know the PC side of the industry that would appear to
>>>>> include you and definitely includes Speed.
>>>>
>>>> No matter how you try and dress it up, it ended up used in a few niche
>>>> applications. That's all it had and not a marker for success.
>>
>>> The mainframe business at the time was worth considerably more than the
>>> PC market, the machines there cost millions (and still do).
>>
>>> IBM was never a consumer market company,
>>
>> More mindless bullshit with the PCJr and PS/1.

> They were just a sideline,

Still means you fucked up completely, as always.

You said NEVER, fuckwit.

> the results showed that they had no idea what they were doing.

They didn’t with the PC either.

>>> even the PC was originally intended for their business customers.

>> More mindless bullshit.

> Your usual pig ignorant opinion.

You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

On 12/07/2021 5:08 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>> On 11/07/2021 8:20 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>> On 11/07/2021 1:08 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 11/7/21 11:19 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/07/2021 12:53 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 6:19 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 7:25 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> "keithr0" <user@account.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:ikpspfF97scU2@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 11:17 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/07/2021 4:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Xeno" <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ikkma7F968rU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/7/21 1:07 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/07/2021 10:10 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 09:15:04 +1000, Yosemite Sam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <felix@invalid.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ support for W10 will end in 2025, but literally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> millions of PC owners
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worldwide will be unable to upgrade to W11!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrH4zEBmztc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lots more vids about it on youtube and articles on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft has always made operating systems that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> require one to buy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new computers, then they can sell another operating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system with it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never a upgrade though always a downgrade.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best operating system was "Win 3.11", been downgraded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever since.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You're dreaming. The PC operating system was OS/2,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> followed by Windows 2000. Windows XP was, basically,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Win2k, with more automation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, the only real difference was in the desktop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment. The underlying XP OS was the same as Win2k.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still, if OS/2 had made it in the marketplace.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS/2 died because it was marketed wrongly by *IBM*.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem wasn’t marketing, it was that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had to replace everything you already had.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> True but it was a combination of both.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OS/2 continued on for years inside IBM professional products.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And they sold fuck all of those. It was always a dud market
>>>>>>>>>>> wise.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that you understand,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Corse I know what that means.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> by the professional market I mean mainframe and mini markets.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Duh.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's where IBM have always made the majority of their money.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Still sweet fuck all with OS/2
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You have no idea, OS/2 was used in controllers on the machinery
>>>>>>>> that make the commercial world work. The PC world is just the
>>>>>>>> periphery of that and toys for amateurs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOL, OS/2 was an industry joke you clown.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> iirc OS/2 was good on early PC's. apps ran in their own memory
>>>>>> space which made it very stable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> It died because of lack of general industry support. It wouldn't
>>>>> have mattered how stable it was.
>>>>>
>>>> Like I have said, it didn't die, it carried on inside IBMs
>>>> professional products. E.G. it was used in micro-channel PCs as the
>>>> controllers for the later 3890 cheque sorters and IBMs rather weird
>>>> automatic tape library that used a Fanuc industrial robot (Telstra
>>>> had one). It was also used in Fujitsu ATMs.
>>>
>>>> Probably many other applications as well, its just that a lot of
>>>> people here only know the PC side of the industry that would appear
>>>> to include you and definitely includes Speed.
>>>
>>> Wrong as always with that later claim.
>>
>> So, what mainframe experience do you have?
>
> You didn’t say mainframe, fuckwit.
>
> I was doing it for decades before the PC
> showed up, mostly with DEC minis and vaxes.

DEC minis and Vaxes? I said mainframes, those things were toys. Pig
ignorant again rod.

> There you go again, face down in the mud, as always.

keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
> On 12/07/2021 5:08 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>> On 11/07/2021 8:20 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>> On 11/07/2021 1:08 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/7/21 11:19 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/07/2021 12:53 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 6:19 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 7:25 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> "keithr0" <user@account.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ikpspfF97scU2@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 11:17 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/07/2021 4:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Xeno" <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ikkma7F968rU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/7/21 1:07 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/07/2021 10:10 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 09:15:04 +1000, Yosemite Sam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <felix@invalid.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ support for W10 will end in 2025, but literally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> millions of PC owners
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worldwide will be unable to upgrade to W11!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrH4zEBmztc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lots more vids about it on youtube and articles on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft has always made operating systems that require
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one to buy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new computers, then they can sell another operating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system with it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never a upgrade though always a downgrade.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best operating system was "Win 3.11", been downgraded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever since.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You're dreaming. The PC operating system was OS/2,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> followed by Windows 2000. Windows XP was, basically,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Win2k, with more automation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, the only real difference was in the desktop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment. The underlying XP OS was the same as Win2k.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still, if OS/2 had made it in the marketplace.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS/2 died because it was marketed wrongly by *IBM*.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem wasn’t marketing, it was that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had to replace everything you already had.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True but it was a combination of both.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS/2 continued on for years inside IBM professional products.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And they sold fuck all of those. It was always a dud market
>>>>>>>>>>>> wise.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that you understand,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Corse I know what that means.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> by the professional market I mean mainframe and mini markets.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Duh.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's where IBM have always made the majority of their money.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Still sweet fuck all with OS/2
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You have no idea, OS/2 was used in controllers on the machinery
>>>>>>>>> that make the commercial world work. The PC world is just the
>>>>>>>>> periphery of that and toys for amateurs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LOL, OS/2 was an industry joke you clown.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> iirc OS/2 was good on early PC's. apps ran in their own memory space
>>>>>>> which made it very stable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It died because of lack of general industry support. It wouldn't have
>>>>>> mattered how stable it was.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Like I have said, it didn't die, it carried on inside IBMs
>>>>> professional products. E.G. it was used in micro-channel PCs as the
>>>>> controllers for the later 3890 cheque sorters and IBMs rather weird
>>>>> automatic tape library that used a Fanuc industrial robot (Telstra had
>>>>> one). It was also used in Fujitsu ATMs.
>>>>
>>>>> Probably many other applications as well, its just that a lot of
>>>>> people here only know the PC side of the industry that would appear to
>>>>> include you and definitely includes Speed.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong as always with that later claim.
>>>
>>> So, what mainframe experience do you have?
>>
>> You didn’t say mainframe, fuckwit.
>>
>> I was doing it for decades before the PC
>> showed up, mostly with DEC minis and vaxes.

> DEC minis and Vaxes?

Wot I just said.

> I said mainframes,

No you didn’t. You actually said

>>>>> only know the PC side of the industry that would appear to include you
>>>>> and definitely includes Speed.

And ended up face down in the mud, as always.

> those things were toys.

More mindless bullshit, your trademark.

> Pig ignorant again rod.

You never could bullshit and lie your way out of a wet paper bag.

>> There you go again, face down in the mud, as always.

On 12/07/2021 9:54 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>> On 12/07/2021 5:08 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>> On 11/07/2021 8:20 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>> On 11/07/2021 1:08 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/7/21 11:19 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/07/2021 12:53 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 6:19 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 7:25 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "keithr0" <user@account.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ikpspfF97scU2@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 11:17 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/07/2021 4:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Xeno" <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ikkma7F968rU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/7/21 1:07 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/07/2021 10:10 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 09:15:04 +1000, Yosemite Sam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <felix@invalid.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ support for W10 will end in 2025, but literally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> millions of PC owners
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worldwide will be unable to upgrade to W11!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrH4zEBmztc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lots more vids about it on youtube and articles on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft has always made operating systems that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> require one to buy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new computers, then they can sell another operating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system with it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never a upgrade though always a downgrade.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best operating system was "Win 3.11", been downgraded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever since.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You're dreaming. The PC operating system was OS/2,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> followed by Windows 2000. Windows XP was, basically,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Win2k, with more automation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, the only real difference was in the desktop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment. The underlying XP OS was the same as Win2k.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still, if OS/2 had made it in the marketplace.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS/2 died because it was marketed wrongly by *IBM*.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem wasn’t marketing, it was that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had to replace everything you already had.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True but it was a combination of both.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS/2 continued on for years inside IBM professional products.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And they sold fuck all of those. It was always a dud market
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wise.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that you understand,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Corse I know what that means.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> by the professional market I mean mainframe and mini markets.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Duh.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's where IBM have always made the majority of their money.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Still sweet fuck all with OS/2
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You have no idea, OS/2 was used in controllers on the
>>>>>>>>>> machinery that make the commercial world work. The PC world is
>>>>>>>>>> just the periphery of that and toys for amateurs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LOL, OS/2 was an industry joke you clown.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> iirc OS/2 was good on early PC's. apps ran in their own memory
>>>>>>>> space which made it very stable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It died because of lack of general industry support. It wouldn't
>>>>>>> have mattered how stable it was.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like I have said, it didn't die, it carried on inside IBMs
>>>>>> professional products. E.G. it was used in micro-channel PCs as
>>>>>> the controllers for the later 3890 cheque sorters and IBMs rather
>>>>>> weird automatic tape library that used a Fanuc industrial robot
>>>>>> (Telstra had one). It was also used in Fujitsu ATMs.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Probably many other applications as well, its just that a lot of
>>>>>> people here only know the PC side of the industry that would
>>>>>> appear to include you and definitely includes Speed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong as always with that later claim.
>>>>
>>>> So, what mainframe experience do you have?
>>>
>>> You didn’t say mainframe, fuckwit.
>>>
>>> I was doing it for decades before the PC
>>> showed up, mostly with DEC minis and vaxes.
>
>> DEC minis and Vaxes?
>
> Wot I just said.
>
>> I said mainframes,
>
> No you didn’t. You actually said
>
>>>>>> only know the PC side of the industry that would appear to include
>>>>>> you and definitely includes Speed.
>
> And ended up face down in the mud, as always.
>
>> those things were toys.
>
> More mindless bullshit, your trademark.
>
>> Pig ignorant again rod.
>
> You never could bullshit and lie your way out of a wet paper bag.
>
>>> There you go again, face down in the mud, as always.
>
>
All insults no facts, speed fails again.

keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
> On 12/07/2021 9:54 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>> On 12/07/2021 5:08 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>> On 11/07/2021 8:20 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>> On 11/07/2021 1:08 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/7/21 11:19 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/07/2021 12:53 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 6:19 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 7:25 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "keithr0" <user@account.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ikpspfF97scU2@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 11:17 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/07/2021 4:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Xeno" <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ikkma7F968rU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/7/21 1:07 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/07/2021 10:10 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 09:15:04 +1000, Yosemite Sam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <felix@invalid.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ support for W10 will end in 2025, but literally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> millions of PC owners
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worldwide will be unable to upgrade to W11!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrH4zEBmztc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lots more vids about it on youtube and articles on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft has always made operating systems that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> require one to buy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new computers, then they can sell another operating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system with it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never a upgrade though always a downgrade.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best operating system was "Win 3.11", been downgraded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever since.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You're dreaming. The PC operating system was OS/2,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> followed by Windows 2000. Windows XP was, basically,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Win2k, with more automation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, the only real difference was in the desktop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment. The underlying XP OS was the same as Win2k.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still, if OS/2 had made it in the marketplace.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS/2 died because it was marketed wrongly by *IBM*.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem wasn’t marketing, it was that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had to replace everything you already had.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True but it was a combination of both.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS/2 continued on for years inside IBM professional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And they sold fuck all of those. It was always a dud market
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that you understand,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Corse I know what that means.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the professional market I mean mainframe and mini markets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Duh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's where IBM have always made the majority of their money.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Still sweet fuck all with OS/2
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You have no idea, OS/2 was used in controllers on the machinery
>>>>>>>>>>> that make the commercial world work. The PC world is just the
>>>>>>>>>>> periphery of that and toys for amateurs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LOL, OS/2 was an industry joke you clown.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> iirc OS/2 was good on early PC's. apps ran in their own memory
>>>>>>>>> space which made it very stable.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It died because of lack of general industry support. It wouldn't
>>>>>>>> have mattered how stable it was.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like I have said, it didn't die, it carried on inside IBMs
>>>>>>> professional products. E.G. it was used in micro-channel PCs as the
>>>>>>> controllers for the later 3890 cheque sorters and IBMs rather weird
>>>>>>> automatic tape library that used a Fanuc industrial robot (Telstra
>>>>>>> had one). It was also used in Fujitsu ATMs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Probably many other applications as well, its just that a lot of
>>>>>>> people here only know the PC side of the industry that would appear
>>>>>>> to include you and definitely includes Speed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong as always with that later claim.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, what mainframe experience do you have?
>>>>
>>>> You didn’t say mainframe, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>> I was doing it for decades before the PC
>>>> showed up, mostly with DEC minis and vaxes.
>>
>>> DEC minis and Vaxes?
>>
>> Wot I just said.
>>
>>> I said mainframes,
>>
>> No you didn’t. You actually said
>>
>>>>>>> only know the PC side of the industry that would appear to include
>>>>>>> you and definitely includes Speed.
>>
>> And ended up face down in the mud, as always.
>>
>>> those things were toys.
>>
>> More mindless bullshit, your trademark.
>>
>>> Pig ignorant again rod.
>>
>> You never could bullshit and lie your way out of a wet paper bag.
>>
>>>> There you go again, face down in the mud, as always.
>>
>>
> All insults no facts,

On 12/07/2021 3:12 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>> On 12/07/2021 9:54 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>> On 12/07/2021 5:08 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>> On 11/07/2021 8:20 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>> On 11/07/2021 1:08 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/7/21 11:19 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/07/2021 12:53 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 6:19 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 7:25 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "keithr0" <user@account.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ikpspfF97scU2@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 11:17 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/07/2021 4:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Xeno" <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ikkma7F968rU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/7/21 1:07 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/07/2021 10:10 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 09:15:04 +1000, Yosemite Sam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <felix@invalid.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ support for W10 will end in 2025, but literally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> millions of PC owners
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worldwide will be unable to upgrade to W11!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrH4zEBmztc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lots more vids about it on youtube and articles on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft has always made operating systems that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> require one to buy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new computers, then they can sell another operating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system with it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never a upgrade though always a downgrade.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best operating system was "Win 3.11", been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downgraded ever since.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You're dreaming. The PC operating system was OS/2,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> followed by Windows 2000. Windows XP was, basically,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Win2k, with more automation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, the only real difference was in the desktop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment. The underlying XP OS was the same as Win2k.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still, if OS/2 had made it in the marketplace.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS/2 died because it was marketed wrongly by *IBM*.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem wasn’t marketing, it was that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had to replace everything you already had.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True but it was a combination of both.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS/2 continued on for years inside IBM professional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And they sold fuck all of those. It was always a dud
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market wise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that you understand,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Corse I know what that means.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the professional market I mean mainframe and mini markets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Duh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's where IBM have always made the majority of their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still sweet fuck all with OS/2
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You have no idea, OS/2 was used in controllers on the
>>>>>>>>>>>> machinery that make the commercial world work. The PC world
>>>>>>>>>>>> is just the periphery of that and toys for amateurs.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> LOL, OS/2 was an industry joke you clown.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> iirc OS/2 was good on early PC's. apps ran in their own memory
>>>>>>>>>> space which made it very stable.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It died because of lack of general industry support. It
>>>>>>>>> wouldn't have mattered how stable it was.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Like I have said, it didn't die, it carried on inside IBMs
>>>>>>>> professional products. E.G. it was used in micro-channel PCs as
>>>>>>>> the controllers for the later 3890 cheque sorters and IBMs
>>>>>>>> rather weird automatic tape library that used a Fanuc industrial
>>>>>>>> robot (Telstra had one). It was also used in Fujitsu ATMs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Probably many other applications as well, its just that a lot of
>>>>>>>> people here only know the PC side of the industry that would
>>>>>>>> appear to include you and definitely includes Speed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong as always with that later claim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, what mainframe experience do you have?
>>>>>
>>>>> You didn’t say mainframe, fuckwit.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was doing it for decades before the PC
>>>>> showed up, mostly with DEC minis and vaxes.
>>>
>>>> DEC minis and Vaxes?
>>>
>>> Wot I just said.
>>>
>>>> I said mainframes,
>>>
>>> No you didn’t. You actually said
>>>
>>>>>>>> only know the PC side of the industry that would appear to
>>>>>>>> include you and definitely includes Speed.
>>>
>>> And ended up face down in the mud, as always.
>>>
>>>> those things were toys.
>>>
>>> More mindless bullshit, your trademark.
>>>
>>>> Pig ignorant again rod.
>>>
>>> You never could bullshit and lie your way out of a wet paper bag.
>>>
>>>>> There you go again, face down in the mud, as always.
>>>
>>>
>> All insults no facts,
>
> Everyone can see you are lying thru your fucking
> teeth, as you always do when you have got done
> like a fucking dinner, as you always are.
>
>
<yawn> same shit different year.

On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 17:51:44 +1000
keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:

> > Everyone can see you are lying thru your fucking
> > teeth, as you always do when you have got done
> > like a fucking dinner, as you always are.
> >
> >
> <yawn> same shit different year.

Yes just as Roddles claimed that his name is unique in the world, but
refuses to prove it. Caught out lying, Roddles! <sneer>

keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
> On 12/07/2021 3:12 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>> On 12/07/2021 9:54 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>> On 12/07/2021 5:08 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>> On 11/07/2021 8:20 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>> On 11/07/2021 1:08 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/7/21 11:19 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/07/2021 12:53 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 6:19 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 7:25 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "keithr0" <user@account.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ikpspfF97scU2@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 11:17 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/07/2021 4:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Xeno" <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ikkma7F968rU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/7/21 1:07 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/07/2021 10:10 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 09:15:04 +1000, Yosemite Sam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <felix@invalid.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ support for W10 will end in 2025, but literally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> millions of PC owners
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worldwide will be unable to upgrade to W11!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrH4zEBmztc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lots more vids about it on youtube and articles on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft has always made operating systems that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> require one to buy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new computers, then they can sell another operating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system with it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never a upgrade though always a downgrade.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best operating system was "Win 3.11", been downgraded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever since.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You're dreaming. The PC operating system was OS/2,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> followed by Windows 2000. Windows XP was, basically,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Win2k, with more automation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, the only real difference was in the desktop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment. The underlying XP OS was the same as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Win2k.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still, if OS/2 had made it in the marketplace.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS/2 died because it was marketed wrongly by *IBM*.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem wasn’t marketing, it was that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had to replace everything you already had.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True but it was a combination of both.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS/2 continued on for years inside IBM professional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And they sold fuck all of those. It was always a dud market
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that you understand,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Corse I know what that means.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the professional market I mean mainframe and mini
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> markets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Duh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's where IBM have always made the majority of their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still sweet fuck all with OS/2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have no idea, OS/2 was used in controllers on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> machinery that make the commercial world work. The PC world is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just the periphery of that and toys for amateurs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL, OS/2 was an industry joke you clown.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> iirc OS/2 was good on early PC's. apps ran in their own memory
>>>>>>>>>>> space which made it very stable.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It died because of lack of general industry support. It wouldn't
>>>>>>>>>> have mattered how stable it was.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Like I have said, it didn't die, it carried on inside IBMs
>>>>>>>>> professional products. E.G. it was used in micro-channel PCs as
>>>>>>>>> the controllers for the later 3890 cheque sorters and IBMs rather
>>>>>>>>> weird automatic tape library that used a Fanuc industrial robot
>>>>>>>>> (Telstra had one). It was also used in Fujitsu ATMs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Probably many other applications as well, its just that a lot of
>>>>>>>>> people here only know the PC side of the industry that would
>>>>>>>>> appear to include you and definitely includes Speed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wrong as always with that later claim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, what mainframe experience do you have?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You didn’t say mainframe, fuckwit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was doing it for decades before the PC
>>>>>> showed up, mostly with DEC minis and vaxes.
>>>>
>>>>> DEC minis and Vaxes?
>>>>
>>>> Wot I just said.
>>>>
>>>>> I said mainframes,
>>>>
>>>> No you didn’t. You actually said
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> only know the PC side of the industry that would appear to include
>>>>>>>>> you and definitely includes Speed.
>>>>
>>>> And ended up face down in the mud, as always.
>>>>
>>>>> those things were toys.
>>>>
>>>> More mindless bullshit, your trademark.
>>>>
>>>>> Pig ignorant again rod.
>>>>
>>>> You never could bullshit and lie your way out of a wet paper bag.
>>>>
>>>>>> There you go again, face down in the mud, as always.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> All insults no facts,
>>
>> Everyone can see you are lying thru your fucking
>> teeth, as you always do when you have got done
>> like a fucking dinner, as you always are.

Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
James Morrison <nospam@gmail.com> spewed just
the mindless trollshit it always ends up with when its
got done like a fucking dinner, as it always is.

On 12/07/2021 8:17 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>> On 12/07/2021 3:12 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>> On 12/07/2021 9:54 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>> On 12/07/2021 5:08 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>> On 11/07/2021 8:20 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/07/2021 1:08 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/7/21 11:19 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/07/2021 12:53 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 6:19 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 7:25 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "keithr0" <user@account.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ikpspfF97scU2@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 11:17 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/07/2021 4:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Xeno" <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ikkma7F968rU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/7/21 1:07 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/07/2021 10:10 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 09:15:04 +1000, Yosemite Sam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <felix@invalid.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ support for W10 will end in 2025, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> literally millions of PC owners
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worldwide will be unable to upgrade to W11!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrH4zEBmztc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lots more vids about it on youtube and articles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft has always made operating systems that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> require one to buy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new computers, then they can sell another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operating system with it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never a upgrade though always a downgrade.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best operating system was "Win 3.11", been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downgraded ever since.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You're dreaming. The PC operating system was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS/2, followed by Windows 2000. Windows XP was,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically, Win2k, with more automation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, the only real difference was in the desktop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment. The underlying XP OS was the same as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Win2k.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still, if OS/2 had made it in the marketplace.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS/2 died because it was marketed wrongly by *IBM*.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem wasn’t marketing, it was that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had to replace everything you already had.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True but it was a combination of both.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS/2 continued on for years inside IBM professional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And they sold fuck all of those. It was always a dud
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market wise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that you understand,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Corse I know what that means.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the professional market I mean mainframe and mini
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> markets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Duh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's where IBM have always made the majority of their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still sweet fuck all with OS/2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have no idea, OS/2 was used in controllers on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machinery that make the commercial world work. The PC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world is just the periphery of that and toys for amateurs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL, OS/2 was an industry joke you clown.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> iirc OS/2 was good on early PC's. apps ran in their own
>>>>>>>>>>>> memory space which made it very stable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It died because of lack of general industry support. It
>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't have mattered how stable it was.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Like I have said, it didn't die, it carried on inside IBMs
>>>>>>>>>> professional products. E.G. it was used in micro-channel PCs
>>>>>>>>>> as the controllers for the later 3890 cheque sorters and IBMs
>>>>>>>>>> rather weird automatic tape library that used a Fanuc
>>>>>>>>>> industrial robot (Telstra had one). It was also used in
>>>>>>>>>> Fujitsu ATMs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Probably many other applications as well, its just that a lot
>>>>>>>>>> of people here only know the PC side of the industry that
>>>>>>>>>> would appear to include you and definitely includes Speed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wrong as always with that later claim.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, what mainframe experience do you have?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You didn’t say mainframe, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was doing it for decades before the PC
>>>>>>> showed up, mostly with DEC minis and vaxes.
>>>>>
>>>>>> DEC minis and Vaxes?
>>>>>
>>>>> Wot I just said.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I said mainframes,
>>>>>
>>>>> No you didn’t. You actually said
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> only know the PC side of the industry that would appear to
>>>>>>>>>> include you and definitely includes Speed.
>>>>>
>>>>> And ended up face down in the mud, as always.
>>>>>
>>>>>> those things were toys.
>>>>>
>>>>> More mindless bullshit, your trademark.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pig ignorant again rod.
>>>>>
>>>>> You never could bullshit and lie your way out of a wet paper bag.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> There you go again, face down in the mud, as always.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> All insults no facts,
>>>
>>> Everyone can see you are lying thru your fucking
>>> teeth, as you always do when you have got done
>>> like a fucking dinner, as you always are.
>
>> <yawn> same shit different year.
>
> Your shit and lies in spades.

James Morrison <nospam@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 17:51:44 +1000
> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > Everyone can see you are lying thru your fucking
> > > teeth, as you always do when you have got done
> > > like a fucking dinner, as you always are.
> > >
> > >
> > <yawn> same shit different year.
>
> Yes just as Roddles claimed that his name is unique in the world, but
> refuses to prove it. Caught out lying, Roddles! <sneer>

The name 'Rod Speed' unique? Of course it isn't.

As to proving a name - any name - is unique: Basic logic failure, one
can't prove a negative. OTOH, one *can* prove a name is *not* unique by
giving an example.

<https://www.google.com/search?q=rod+speed>

Example:

<https://uk.linkedin.com/in/rod-speed-3a316334>

keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
> On 12/07/2021 8:17 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>> On 12/07/2021 3:12 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>> On 12/07/2021 9:54 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>> On 12/07/2021 5:08 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>> On 11/07/2021 8:20 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/07/2021 1:08 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/7/21 11:19 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/07/2021 12:53 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 6:19 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 7:25 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "keithr0" <user@account.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ikpspfF97scU2@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/07/2021 11:17 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/07/2021 4:14 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Xeno" <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ikkma7F968rU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/7/21 1:07 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/07/2021 10:10 am, Petzl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 09:15:04 +1000, Yosemite Sam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <felix@invalid.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ support for W10 will end in 2025, but literally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> millions of PC owners
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worldwide will be unable to upgrade to W11!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrH4zEBmztc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lots more vids about it on youtube and articles on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft has always made operating systems that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> require one to buy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new computers, then they can sell another operating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system with it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never a upgrade though always a downgrade.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best operating system was "Win 3.11", been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downgraded ever since.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **You're dreaming. The PC operating system was OS/2,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> followed by Windows 2000. Windows XP was, basically,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Win2k, with more automation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, the only real difference was in the desktop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment. The underlying XP OS was the same as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Win2k.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still, if OS/2 had made it in the marketplace.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS/2 died because it was marketed wrongly by *IBM*.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem wasn’t marketing, it was that you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had to replace everything you already had.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True but it was a combination of both.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS/2 continued on for years inside IBM professional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And they sold fuck all of those. It was always a dud
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market wise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that you understand,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Corse I know what that means.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the professional market I mean mainframe and mini
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> markets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Duh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's where IBM have always made the majority of their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still sweet fuck all with OS/2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have no idea, OS/2 was used in controllers on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machinery that make the commercial world work. The PC world
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is just the periphery of that and toys for amateurs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL, OS/2 was an industry joke you clown.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> iirc OS/2 was good on early PC's. apps ran in their own memory
>>>>>>>>>>>>> space which made it very stable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It died because of lack of general industry support. It
>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't have mattered how stable it was.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Like I have said, it didn't die, it carried on inside IBMs
>>>>>>>>>>> professional products. E.G. it was used in micro-channel PCs as
>>>>>>>>>>> the controllers for the later 3890 cheque sorters and IBMs
>>>>>>>>>>> rather weird automatic tape library that used a Fanuc industrial
>>>>>>>>>>> robot (Telstra had one). It was also used in Fujitsu ATMs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Probably many other applications as well, its just that a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>> people here only know the PC side of the industry that would
>>>>>>>>>>> appear to include you and definitely includes Speed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wrong as always with that later claim.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, what mainframe experience do you have?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You didn’t say mainframe, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was doing it for decades before the PC
>>>>>>>> showed up, mostly with DEC minis and vaxes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DEC minis and Vaxes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wot I just said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I said mainframes,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No you didn’t. You actually said
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> only know the PC side of the industry that would appear to
>>>>>>>>>>> include you and definitely includes Speed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And ended up face down in the mud, as always.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> those things were toys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More mindless bullshit, your trademark.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pig ignorant again rod.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You never could bullshit and lie your way out of a wet paper bag.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There you go again, face down in the mud, as always.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> All insults no facts,
>>>>
>>>> Everyone can see you are lying thru your fucking
>>>> teeth, as you always do when you have got done
>>>> like a fucking dinner, as you always are.
>>
>>> <yawn> same shit different year.
>>
>> Your shit and lies in spades.
>
> <yawn> same shit different year.

Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote
> James Morrison <nospam@gmail.com> wrote
>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>
>> > > Everyone can see you are lying thru your fucking
>> > > teeth, as you always do when you have got done
>> > > like a fucking dinner, as you always are.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > <yawn> same shit different year.
>>
>> Yes just as Roddles claimed that his name is unique in the world, but
>> refuses to prove it. Caught out lying, Roddles! <sneer>
> The name 'Rod Speed' unique?

I said that my FULL NAME is.

> Of course it isn't.

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?
> As to proving a name - any name - is unique:
> Basic logic failure, one can't prove a negative.

Basic logic failure, I can prove that
there is no elephant in this room.

> OTOH, one *can* prove a name is *not*
> unique by giving an example.
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=rod+speed>
> Example:
> <https://uk.linkedin.com/in/rod-speed-3a316334>

Pity neither work with my FULL NAME.

On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 20:19:06 +1000
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
> James Morrison <nospam@gmail.com> spewed just
> the mindless trollshit it always ends up with when its
> got done like a fucking dinner, as it always is.
>

Some desperate liar Rod Speed claiming falsely that his name is
unique and can't prove it, has been caught out lying again, and resorts
to the abuse he normally uses on his family.

Face it Roddles, you are a LIAR! <chortle>

On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 20:17:54 +1000
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Your shit and lies in spades.

Come on Roddles, prove your bullshit statement that your name is unique,
don't hide behind your abuse. That's what you use your wife for, but
no need to bring it into a public arena.

You have been caught out lying - be a man, and admit it. <sneer>

Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
James Morrison <nospam@gmail.com> spewed just
the mindless trollshit it always ends up with when its
got done like a fucking dinner, as it always is.

Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
James Morrison <nospam@gmail.com> spewed just
the mindless trollshit it always ends up with when its
got done like a fucking dinner, as it always is.

On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 07:19:02 +1000
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
> James Morrison <nospam@gmail.com> spewed just
> the mindless trollshit it always ends up with when its
> got done like a fucking dinner, as it always is.

Come on Roddles, prove your bullshit statement that your name is unique,
don't hide behind your abuse. That's what you use your wife for, but
no need to bring it into a public arena.

You have been caught out lying - be a man, and admit it. <sneer>
>

On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 07:18:33 +1000
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
> James Morrison <nospam@gmail.com> spewed just
> the mindless trollshit it always ends up with when its
> got done like a fucking dinner, as it always is.
>

Come on Roddles, prove your bullshit statement that your name is unique,
don't hide behind your abuse. That's what you use your wife for, but
no need to bring it into a public arena.

You have been caught out lying - be a man, and admit it. <sneer>

Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
James Morrison <nospam@gmail.com> spewed just
the mindless trollshit it always ends up with when its
got done like a fucking dinner, as it always is.

Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
James Morrison <nospam@gmail.com> spewed just
the mindless trollshit it always ends up with when its
got done like a fucking dinner, as it always is.

On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 08:50:38 +1000
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
> James Morrison <nospam@gmail.com> spewed just
> the mindless trollshit it always ends up with when its
> got done like a fucking dinner, as it always is.
>

On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 08:50:38 +1000
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
> James Morrison <nospam@gmail.com> spewed just
> the mindless trollshit it always ends up with when its
> got done like a fucking dinner, as it always is.

You are done like a dinner, Roddles, and you know it! LOL
>

Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
James Morrison <nospam@gmail.com> spewed just
the mindless trollshit it always ends up with when its
got done like a fucking dinner, as it always is.