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Re: USA to blame

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 by: Petzl - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 02:11 UTC

On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 18:26:41 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
wrote:

>>>>You don't consider intelligent design?
>>>
>>> I consider everything, what I don't do is not look at all the facts.
>>>The Bible has flaws, and even if it didn't, there is no proof other
>>>than a self-fulfilling prophecy, it is totally of God, the words of
>>>Paul seem to be very militaristic in nature, not like Jesus.
>>>
>>> There is also evidence of evolution. Dinosaurs aren't mentioned and
>>>we have fossils, how do you explain that?
>>>
>>Who knows, maybe all fossils were relics of Noah's flood?
>
> Doubt that in where they are found.
>
The "Grand Canyon of Colorado" was formed in Noah's flood
>
>>There are also arguments about the accuracy of carbon dating!
>
> There are also arguments about the accuracy of the Bible.
>
Scary news here,
The concept of time is a human thing no time in heaven
1 minute in heave seems like it may be a hundred years of paradise.
Eternity is how long you think?
--
Petzl
The philosophy of the school room in one generation
will be the philosophy of government in the next
- Abraham Lincoln

Re: USA to blame

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From: rod.spee...@gmail.com (Rod Speed)
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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 02:19 UTC

Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote

>>>> That arsehole claimed that he wouldn't be invading.
>
>>> I didn't believe that for a second to have armies on 3 sides at the
>>> same time. Only an idiot would believe anything that Putin says. The
>>> guy has dementia.

>> Anyone or their media in Russia that says that is never seen again.

> So true.

Nope, that woman who held up a banner behind the
news reader on national TV has been seen since then.

Same with the jailed opposition leader.

>> The Clintons have the same thing going in the USA
>> Heres a short list
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Body_Count

> I have hoped that isn't true.

It's just mindless bullshit.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 02:22 UTC

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 11:26:41 +1000, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 09:19:26 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 10:18:48 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 14:11:59 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 19:39:42 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 09:48:03 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> oops, should be devils, not gods!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You believe in devils?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Devil of our bible does GOD's dirty work!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, its just another fairy story.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no heaven or hell of you, just rotting in some
>>>>>> coffin or getting cremated and tossed in the bin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Prove it? I'd also like proof there is a god.
>>>>>
>>>> You don't consider intelligent design?
>>>
>>> I consider everything, what I don't do is not look at all the facts.
>>> The Bible has flaws, and even if it didn't, there is no proof other
>>> than a self-fulfilling prophecy, it is totally of God, the words of
>>> Paul seem to be very militaristic in nature, not like Jesus.
>>>
>>> There is also evidence of evolution. Dinosaurs aren't mentioned and
>>> we have fossils, how do you explain that?
>>>
>> Who knows, maybe all fossils were relics of Noah's flood?
>
> Doubt that in where they are found.
> '
>> There are also arguments about the accuracy of carbon dating!
> There are also arguments about the accuracy of the Bible.

In fact proof that it is all a silly collection of fairy storys except
for the bit where that fool was nailed up by the romans.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 02:27 UTC

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 11:53:47 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 18:24:04 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 09:12:46 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 14:58:52 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> That arsehole claimed that he wouldn't be invading.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't believe that for a second to have armies on 3 sides at the
>>>> same time. Only an idiot would believe anything that Putin says. The
>>>> guy has dementia.
>>>>
>>> Anyone or their media in Russia that says that is never seen again.
>>
>> So true.

> Poison is Putin's favorite method, told he draws name outof hat to
> select those that have told the truth about him.

Nope, just has them killed.

> You think Rod Speed's name is in that hat?

He wouldn't dare.

> Won't be the first time Russian operatives have murdereda Australian in
> Australia and gotten away with it!

Not with Putin.

> So much for the ANZUS treaty?
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANZUS>
> It provides that an armed attack on any of the three parties would be
> dangerous to the others, and that each should act to meet the common
> threat. It set up a committee of foreign ministers that can meet for
> consultation.
> ****************
> Fell apart when the USA and Australia aided France tobomb the Green
> Peace ship Rainbow Warrior in Auckland!

Bullshit they aided the frogs.

> Green Peace was sending the ship to stop nucleartests in the French
> owned pacific Islands!

Those clowns ever stopped anything.

>>> The Clintons have the same thing going in the USA
>>> Heres a short list
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Body_Count
>>
>> I have hoped that isn't true.
>>
> Well enter the "USA Mega Lottery®" and dream, dream, dream!

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 02:32 UTC

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:06:07 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 18:25:44 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 09:06:00 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 10:13:28 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>> The self preservation was way back when Stalin was trying to
>>>>>>>>> stamp
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> out, stupid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What has that to do with today?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's the evidence that they arent evil, fuckwit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No that is not evidence of what they are today, but in the past..
>>>>>
>>>>> Have fun showing that they are evil today.
>>>>
>>>> Putin and they support the war of aggression being done by Russia..
>>>> You are rather desperate to support that freak, Putin.
>>>>>
>>> Biden and Obama started this around 2013
>>>
>>> Yes Putin is maniacally murderous tyrant who thinks he is right
>>> Enjoy WWIII and Joe Bidens crack pipe
>>> Barack Obama once warned not to underestimate Joe Biden’s ‘ability to
>>> f**k things up’
>>>
>>> Obama and Biden were trying to gain control of Ukraine after the EU
>>> low balled Ukraine compensation for becoming part of NATO and decided
>>> to accept Russia's deal of a $15 billion loan and to cut Russian
>>> natural gas prices by almost a third.
>>>
>>>
>>> The US forever changed the trajectory of Russia-Ukraine relations: The
>>> 2013 Russian trade deal was revoked, this pushed Russia into a similar
>>> deal with China a few months later, and the following years were
>>> filled with periodic announcements of Ukraine’s intentions to join
>>> NATO accompanied with showy military exercises like the NATO-sponsored
>>> ‘Clear Sky’ event held in Ukraine in 2018.
>>
>> NATO would never invade Russia unless they attacked first..
>
> The Russian's are bullshiting on their nuclear capability.
> They have done since the end of WWII

> They do not have the ability to react, which has to be done in seconds

Bullshit. Their satellites give plenty of warning of an attack.

>>> Biden's Democrat control of US has forced Putin's hand to invade the
>>> Ukraine, as the Democrat dirty tricks reappeared
>>>
>>> This would not of happened under President Trump
>>
>> Maybe.
>>
> No maybe about it!

Bullshit.

> Trump ended the Obama/Biden administrationdestabilizing of the Ukraine.

Bullshit he did.

> Putin acted before Biden could bring it back,

More mindless bullshit.

> even while President
> Trump was in office the Obama/Biden/Clinton's were trying to turn the
> Ukraine against Russia.

More mindless bullshit. The Ukraine had decided to join
the EU because it is vastly more successful than russia.

> Hence the Russians shooting down a Malay
> airplane using un-badged Russian troops.

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

> The Democrats love the money war gives their oligarchs.

There are no oligarchs.

> Many of them RINO's

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 02:35 UTC

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>> You don't consider intelligent design?
>>>>
>>>> I consider everything, what I don't do is not look at all the facts.
>>>> The Bible has flaws, and even if it didn't, there is no proof other
>>>> than a self-fulfilling prophecy, it is totally of God, the words of
>>>> Paul seem to be very militaristic in nature, not like Jesus.
>>>>
>>>> There is also evidence of evolution. Dinosaurs aren't mentioned and
>>>> we have fossils, how do you explain that?
>>>>
>>> Who knows, maybe all fossils were relics of Noah's flood?
>>
>> Doubt that in where they are found.
>>
> The "Grand Canyon of Colorado" was formed in Noah's flood

Bullshit it was. It is millions of years older than that.

>>> There are also arguments about the accuracy of carbon dating!
>>
>> There are also arguments about the accuracy of the Bible.

> Scary news here,

Nope, just more bullshit.

> The concept of time is a human thing no time in heaven

There is no heaven, its just a mind fuck for the most stupid.

> 1 minute in heave seems like it may be a hundred years of paradise.

Pathetic.

> Eternity is how long you think?

It is just another silly little fantasy.

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 by: Petzl - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 02:50 UTC

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 11:47:52 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>> That arsehole claimed that he wouldn't be invading.
>
>>> I didn't believe that for a second to have armies on 3 sides at the
>>> same time. Only an idiot would believe anything that Putin says. The
>>> guy has dementia.
>
>> Anyone or their media in Russia that says that is never seen again.
>
>That is bullshit with that woman that held up a banner behind the new
>reader on the TV news.
>
Only with a gun pointed at her family
Old Stasi tactic
>
>> The Clintons have the same thing going in the USA
>
>Bullshit.
>
>> Heres a short list
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Body_Count
>
>Just because some fool claims something...
>
Well enter the "USA Mega Lottery®" and dream, dream, dream!
You have better odd's of winning than the Democrat Gestapo FBI not
turning a blind eye and having them hung
--
Petzl
Barack Obama once warned not to underestimate
Joe Biden’s ‘ability to f**k things up’

Trump was never running against Biden.
He was running against voter fraud.
https://youtu.be/U4c5dYDD9xw
The Democrats’ First Bill of 2021 Is to Lock In
Fraudulent Election Maneuvers and Steal Elections in Perpetuity

The left loathes Trump so much it totally blinds them
to anything he says, even when what he says
could potentially save thousands of lives.

Amazing where in America a lifetime of corruption, gutless, lying, thieving,
fraud, cheating, Propagandist' and 'Bigot will take you in politics?
https://youtu.be/D1j0FS0Z6ho
Joe Biden's son, zero track record, for jobs in languages
he don't speak thrown out of navy for doing coke,
turned in a rental car with crack pipes in it,
hid from a process server for getting a girl pregnant
to avoid child support.
And now he's a high paid artist with no discernible talent.

Five days with dad on Chinese trip was paid US$1.5 billion dollars?
Corruption by proxy,a new corruption that is difficult to detect

Joe Biden had a little boy
his nose was white with snow
And everywhere Joe Biden went
his son was sure to go
He followed to Ukraine one day
and scored a lot of dough
This made Joe Biden worry so
he did a quid pro quo : Anon

Somewhere out there is a 2-year-old girl whose mother is a stripper,
her father is a crackhead and her grandpa is President of the United States
.. --Fact check THAT.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 03:44 UTC

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>> That arsehole claimed that he wouldn't be invading.

>>>> I didn't believe that for a second to have armies on 3 sides at the
>>>> same time. Only an idiot would believe anything that Putin says.
>>>> The guy has dementia.

>>> Anyone or their media in Russia that says that is never seen again.

>> That is bullshit with that woman that held up abanner behind the new
>> reader on the TV news.

> Only with a gun pointed at her family

Bullshit. Her family is Ukrainian, so they can't do that.

> Old Stasi tactic

More bullshit, the NKVD were doing that long
before the Stasi had even been invented.

>>> The Clintons have the same thing going in the USA

>> Bullshit.

>>> Heres a short list
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Body_Count

>> Just because some fool claims something...

> Well enter the "USA Mega Lottery®" and dream, dream, dream!
> You have better odd's of winning than the Democrat GestapoFBI not
> turning a blind eye and having them hung

The FBI doesn't hang anyone, stupid. And none of the suicides were by
hanging.

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:27:15 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 11:53:47 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 18:24:04 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 09:12:46 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 14:58:52 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> That arsehole claimed that he wouldn't be invading.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't believe that for a second to have armies on 3 sides at the
>>>>> same time. Only an idiot would believe anything that Putin says. The
>>>>> guy has dementia.
>>>>>
>>>> Anyone or their media in Russia that says that is never seen again.
>>>
>>> So true.
>
>> Poison is Putin's favorite method, told he draws name outof hat to
>> select those that have told the truth about him.
>
>Nope, just has them killed.
>
Yes but poisoning seems his favorite choice
>
>> You think Rod Speed's name is in that hat?
>
>He wouldn't dare.
>
You want him to?
>
>> Won't be the first time Russian operatives have murdereda Australian in
>> Australia and gotten away with it!
>
>Not with Putin.
>
Not that Australia tells us
Russian Assassins were active in Australia at least to 2018
<https://thediplomat.com/2018/03/australia-orders-expulsion-of-2-russian-diplomats-over-uk-nerve-agent-assassination-attempt/>
https://tinyurl.com/y2gyuz47
>
>> So much for the ANZUS treaty?
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANZUS>
>> It provides that an armed attack on any of the three parties would be
>> dangerous to the others, and that each should act to meet the common
>> threat. It set up a committee of foreign ministers that can meet for
>> consultation.
>> ****************
>> Fell apart when the USA and Australia aided France tobomb the Green
>> Peace ship Rainbow Warrior in Auckland!
>
>Bullshit they aided the frogs.
>
Not what my intelligence says.
Then New Zealand had the French assassins arrested in Norfolk Island
Bob Hawke shit himself and had the Norfolk Island police release them
helping them to flee by yacht to a American Submarine to escape, the
yacht was scuttled.
>
>> Green Peace was sending the ship to stop nuclear tests in the French
>> owned pacific Islands!
>
>Those clowns ever stopped anything.
>
Seemed to stop them by world opinion
>
>>>> The Clintons have the same thing going in the USA
>>>> Heres a short list
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Body_Count
>>>
>>> I have hoped that isn't true.
>>>
>> Well enter the "USA Mega Lottery®" and dream, dream, dream!
--
Petzl
Obama is like a guy who couldn't open a jar for 8 years,
and then Trump opens it and Obama says
"I loosened it for you"

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 07:19 UTC

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 15:45:21 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:27:15 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 11:53:47 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 18:24:04 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 09:12:46 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 14:58:52 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> That arsehole claimed that he wouldn't be invading.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't believe that for a second to have armies on 3 sides at the
>>>>>> same time. Only an idiot would believe anything that Putin says.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> guy has dementia.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone or their media in Russia that says that is never seen again..
>>>>
>>>> So true.
>>
>>> Poison is Putin's favorite method, told he draws name outof hat to
>>> select those that have told the truth about him.

>> Nope, just has them killed.

> Yes but poisoning seems his favorite choice

That is less clear. Plenty have got shot etc.

It is really only a handful of the more famous who have got poisoned.

>>> You think Rod Speed's name is in that hat?

>> He wouldn't dare.

> You want him to?

Yeah, the rotty is always hungry and the shotty needs some fun.

>>> Won't be the first time Russian operatives have murdered
>>> a Australian in Australia and gotten away with it!

>> Not with Putin.

> Not that Australia tells us
> Russian Assassins were active in Australia at least to 2018
> <https://thediplomat.com/2018/03/australia-orders-expulsion-of-2-russian-diplomats-over-uk-nerve-agent-assassination-attempt/>
> https://tinyurl.com/y2gyuz47

That isn't murdered, that's an ATTEMPT, stupid.

And that isnt an Australian in Australia either.

>>> So much for the ANZUS treaty?
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANZUS>
>>> It provides that an armed attack on any of the three parties would be
>>> dangerous to the others, and that each should act to meet the common
>>> threat. It set up a committee of foreign ministers that can meet for
>>> consultation.
>>> ****************
>>> Fell apart when the USA and Australia aided France to
>>> bomb the Green Peace ship Rainbow Warrior in Auckland!

>> Bullshit they aided the frogs.

> Not what my intelligence says.

Your stupidity is irrelevant.

> Then New Zealand had the French assassins arrested in Norfolk Island
> Bob Hawke shit himself and had the Norfolk Island police release them
> helping them to flee by yacht to a American Submarine to escape, the
> yacht was scuttled.

More mindless bullshit. None of that ever happened.

>>> Green Peace was sending the ship to stop nuclear tests in the French
>>> owned pacific Islands!

>> Those clowns ever stopped anything.

> Seemed to stop them by world opinion

Nope, that was nothing to do with Green Piss.

>>>>> The Clintons have the same thing going in the USA
>>>>> Heres a short list
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Body_Count
>>>>
>>>> I have hoped that isn't true.
>>>>
>>> Well enter the "USA Mega Lottery®" and dream, dream, dream!

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 by: Arindam Banerjee - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 07:23 UTC

On Wednesday, 13 April 2022 at 11:23:37 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
Rod the psycho-creep had his usual meltdown.

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 by: Arindam Banerjee - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 07:27 UTC

On Wednesday, 13 April 2022 at 08:42:56 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 15:30:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, 12 April 2022 at 04:23:39 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> >> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 02:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Monday, 11 April 2022 at 13:36:55 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 01:55:40 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 15:40:10 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> >> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> >> >> >> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent in the
> >> >> >> >> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the Ukraine.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to happen, was
> >> >> >> >> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is exactly the case.
> >> >> >> >> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was stopped earlier by Putin.
> >> >> >> >> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian butts.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
> >> >> >> >Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated Vietnam or Japan.
> >> >> >> >But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have to.
> >> >> >> Russia is a nation of pussies and Putin is the next Hitler of this
> >> >> >> century with his attacks on civilians.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> To the Marxist freedom is a threat.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Yes, but the Russians are not Marxists.
> >> >> >> >They are religious nationalists.
> >> >> >> I can see that as the Russian Orthodox Church is pure evil.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >No. I don't think so.
> >> >> Yes it is. Evil is at its core.
> >> >
> >> >I will bet they will think the same about your sect whatever that is.
> >> I don't have a sect.
> >You are not important. What you personally think is irrelevant. I was referring to the US sects, which is what I took you to represent. Unimportant and useless people can be representatives.
> What do you believe is a 'sect' what are they called?
> >> >> >They are passionate and idealistic. They take Christianity in the original sense, in the spirit of self-sacrifice, so they are not materialistic. They are spiritual. Very serious; too much so, perhaps.
> >> >> >That may not suit the modern atheists, materialists, selfish-greedy sorts; and as they are so different from the ROC, there is tension.
> >> >> >As to who is evil, and who is good, is impossible to say off-hand unless we are talking about known devils like Bush2: used 911 explosions to fund his mates in wars and invasions.
> >> >> >In certain positions one lot is good, and in other positions evil. Depends upon point of view. A terrorist to one, is a hero to another.
> >> >> They are evil and should be destroyed.
> >> >
> >> >You can try. Chaps who tried have not been too successful so far. Except the Mongols, but that was a while ago.
> >> >
> >> >> >> >Quite the opposite of Marxism.
> >> >> >> Not in ethics.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >In all its entirety, Western "civilization" (if that ever happens it will be a good idea - as Gandhi once mentioned) has no use for ethics for its own sake. It is based upon law and opportunism. Wars and divorces are the natural outcomes.
> >> >> >Marxism is the least ethical, true.
> >> >> Nope.
> >> >
> >> >They do not believe in ethics. For them the notion of right or wrong based upon traditional beliefs is conditioning of the lower classes by the higher classes, for the latter to keep the former docile.
> >> >They believe in classes, class struggle, class enemy and dictatorship of the proletariat. Well, the last one turns into a dictatorship quite fast
> >> >Other sects have faith, and usually there are aspects in the faith such as the ten commandments that have basis in ethics.
> >> >
> >> >> >Other Western religions support ethics when it suits. They are based upon belief, relating to salvation in the afterlife - not ethics. Ethics is not fundamental - never was even in their pagan times.
> >> >> >They are not Indian yet!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > > BTW, did you see that picture
> >> >> >> >> of Putin on a horse? Putin needs a bra, big time.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >He tries to project the opposite of the drunken swine image.
> >> >> >> He looks like a pregnant pig with those tits. Rather disgusting.
> >> >> >Yeltsin was preferable to him, what?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> BTW thought progressives and Marxists said Trump was in Putin's
> >> >> >> >> pocket?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Who knows. I thought he was in Twitter's tweeting.
> >> >> >> >When that balloon burst, he was stuffed.
> >> >> >> Trump is a idiot, he also let the media control him and get him
> >> >> >> going. Ego problem but then Putin has that also.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Trump has some genuine American qualities, that I admire.
> >> >> >I saw a photo of him handling the luggage of some guests to one of his hotels.
> >> >> >Now that is what made America what it was. Scums have taken over - totally - quite recently.
> >> >> >My respects for him. He is USA's best hope.
> >> >> >Biden is also good - at least he has not started a nuclear war yet and what more can one expect from any potus?
> >> >
> >> >> Putin the freak made threats of Nuclear war and he is one sick
> >> >> bastard. Maybe one of his own people will kill Putin off.
> >> >
> >> >I doubt it. They probably feel more safe now that Ukraine will not get nukes.
> >> Who said they were going to get Nukes? They had nukes and gave them
> >> up.
> >> > Chances of WW3 is now less.
> >> >It is Zelensky that is asking for a world war, which if it happens will not just be nuclear. There are weapons like Covid and even worse viruses that could be set loose.
> >> >Putin has a 80% approval rate, going by Gorbachov and that is backed by my experience while touring Russia.
> >> Putin is a war criminal and a freak and a total liar. Russia
> >> doesn't have a free press. Then again to disagree with Putin will get
> >> you 15 years in jail or killed.
> >No, they have a thriving democracy where opposition is allowed.
> Then go outside and yell the war must stop or peace now.
In times of war opposition is not allowed anywhere.
> >And within the party there is freedom of thought so long as that is not treacherous.
> Treacherous is to disagree with Putin.
No, so long as you are not treacherous as his opposition usually are, being the tools of the West.
> >A fine system, far better than US.
> No.
Yes, to thirdworlders.


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On Wednesday, 13 April 2022 at 08:44:16 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 15:31:56 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, 12 April 2022 at 04:34:58 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> >> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 04:02:51 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Monday, 11 April 2022 at 13:33:45 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 02:04:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 15:40:10 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> >> >> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> >> >> >> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent in the
> >> >> >> >> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the Ukraine.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to happen, was
> >> >> >> >> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is exactly the case.
> >> >> >> >> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that was stopped earlier by Putin.
> >> >> >> >> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian butts.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
> >> >> >> >Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated Vietnam or Japan.
> >> >> >> >But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have to.
> >> >> >> Russia is a nation of pussies and Putin is the next Hitler of this
> >> >> >> century with his attacks on civilians.
> >No, US is a nation of pussies.
> Some are. Yet Russia's defeat near Kiev shows what it is.
They were beaten back by the new Javelin missiles.
Just a reverse.
What they want, they got.

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> >A fine system, far better than US.
> No.
Yes. I would much rather stay in Russia than US.
> >He is a Czar and Russia has different ways.
> Putin is a useless freak.
To US, he is much worse than that! He puts the spanner in their grabby works.
But he is useful to the Washington Swamp Monsters and the Deep State Devils.
They are bursting out of their skins with joy, with the money from Putin's war. Stocks are booming in the war markets, if Arnab Goswami is correct.
> >It works for most Russians and they like it this way.
> Then why not have open elections.
They have and they love Putin as Gorbachov says.
> >All nations have their ways.
> True.
> >They need not follow other ways.
> >USA gets along fine with Saudi, China etc. where ways are also brutal.
> Yes, Russia wants to use its inhumane ways on other countries. Why
> should not other countries treat Russia in a similar manner?
They can try.
Russia treats thirdworld countries very well, unlike the US.
So Russia is their favourite.
> >> >Did Lincoln have a 80% approval rate in the North when he started the civil war?
> >> >Napoleon had a high approval rate. So did Hitler before WW2.
> >> >Don't know what will happen. Putin is taking strict security measures, so any assassin sent by your gods gotta be really good at his job. At least as good as Jason Bourne, etc. Will life follow "art"?
> >> What gods? Putin is a freak.
> >I meant devils.
> >Putin is wonderful, does his job, saves us from WW3.
> No, NATO is a defensive alliance. No threat to Putin unless he
> wants to conquer.
What rubbish. NATO has levelled Iraq and Libya.
They wanted to hit Russia from below but that plan has been foiled by Putin.
>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Cheers,
> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee
> >> >> >> >> >

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On Wednesday, 13 April 2022 at 12:03:16 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
his usual stinking stuff, duly flushed.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 09:47 UTC

Some drug crased drunken curry muncher claiming to be
Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> spewed
reams of stinking curry muncher shit, all flushed where it belongs.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 09:56 UTC

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 17:27:22 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 13 April 2022 at 08:42:56 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 15:30:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, 12 April 2022 at 04:23:39 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 02:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Monday, 11 April 2022 at 13:36:55 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> >> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 01:55:40 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 15:40:10 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> >> >> >> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent
>> in the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the
>> Ukraine.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to
>> happen, was
>> >> >> >> >> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is
>> exactly the case.
>> >> >> >> >> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that
>> was stopped earlier by Putin.
>> >> >> >> >> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian
>> butts.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
>> >> >> >> >Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated
>> Vietnam or Japan.
>> >> >> >> >But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have to.
>> >> >> >> Russia is a nation of pussies and Putin is the next Hitler of
>> this
>> >> >> >> century with his attacks on civilians.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> To the Marxist freedom is a threat.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Yes, but the Russians are not Marxists.
>> >> >> >> >They are religious nationalists.
>> >> >> >> I can see that as the Russian Orthodox Church is pure evil.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >No. I don't think so.
>> >> >> Yes it is. Evil is at its core.
>> >> >
>> >> >I will bet they will think the same about your sect whatever that
>> is.
>> >> I don't have a sect.
>> >You are not important. What you personally think is irrelevant. I was
>> referring to the US sects, which is what I took you to represent.
>> Unimportant and useless people can be representatives.
>> What do you believe is a 'sect' what are they called?
>> >> >> >They are passionate and idealistic. They take Christianity in
>> the original sense, in the spirit of self-sacrifice, so they are not
>> materialistic. They are spiritual. Very serious; too much so, perhaps.
>> >> >> >That may not suit the modern atheists, materialists,
>> selfish-greedy sorts; and as they are so different from the ROC, there
>> is tension.
>> >> >> >As to who is evil, and who is good, is impossible to say
>> off-hand unless we are talking about known devils like Bush2: used 911
>> explosions to fund his mates in wars and invasions.
>> >> >> >In certain positions one lot is good, and in other positions
>> evil. Depends upon point of view. A terrorist to one, is a hero to
>> another.
>> >> >> They are evil and should be destroyed.
>> >> >
>> >> >You can try. Chaps who tried have not been too successful so far.
>> Except the Mongols, but that was a while ago.
>> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Quite the opposite of Marxism.
>> >> >> >> Not in ethics.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >In all its entirety, Western "civilization" (if that ever
>> happens it will be a good idea - as Gandhi once mentioned) has no use
>> for ethics for its own sake. It is based upon law and opportunism. Wars
>> and divorces are the natural outcomes.
>> >> >> >Marxism is the least ethical, true.
>> >> >> Nope.
>> >> >
>> >> >They do not believe in ethics. For them the notion of right or
>> wrong based upon traditional beliefs is conditioning of the lower
>> classes by the higher classes, for the latter to keep the former docile.
>> >> >They believe in classes, class struggle, class enemy and
>> dictatorship of the proletariat. Well, the last one turns into a
>> dictatorship quite fast
>> >> >Other sects have faith, and usually there are aspects in the faith
>> such as the ten commandments that have basis in ethics.
>> >> >
>> >> >> >Other Western religions support ethics when it suits. They are
>> based upon belief, relating to salvation in the afterlife - not ethics.
>> Ethics is not fundamental - never was even in their pagan times.
>> >> >> >They are not Indian yet!
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > > BTW, did you see that picture
>> >> >> >> >> of Putin on a horse? Putin needs a bra, big time.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >He tries to project the opposite of the drunken swine image.
>> >> >> >> He looks like a pregnant pig with those tits. Rather
>> disgusting.
>> >> >> >Yeltsin was preferable to him, what?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> BTW thought progressives and Marxists said Trump was in
>> Putin's
>> >> >> >> >> pocket?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Who knows. I thought he was in Twitter's tweeting.
>> >> >> >> >When that balloon burst, he was stuffed.
>> >> >> >> Trump is a idiot, he also let the media control him and get him
>> >> >> >> going. Ego problem but then Putin has that also.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Trump has some genuine American qualities, that I admire.
>> >> >> >I saw a photo of him handling the luggage of some guests to one
>> of his hotels.
>> >> >> >Now that is what made America what it was. Scums have taken over
>> - totally - quite recently.
>> >> >> >My respects for him. He is USA's best hope.
>> >> >> >Biden is also good - at least he has not started a nuclear war
>> yet and what more can one expect from any potus?
>> >> >
>> >> >> Putin the freak made threats of Nuclear war and he is one sick
>> >> >> bastard. Maybe one of his own people will kill Putin off.
>> >> >
>> >> >I doubt it. They probably feel more safe now that Ukraine will not
>> get nukes.
>> >> Who said they were going to get Nukes? They had nukes and gave them
>> >> up.
>> >> > Chances of WW3 is now less.
>> >> >It is Zelensky that is asking for a world war, which if it happens
>> will not just be nuclear. There are weapons like Covid and even worse
>> viruses that could be set loose.
>> >> >Putin has a 80% approval rate, going by Gorbachov and that is
>> backed by my experience while touring Russia.
>> >> Putin is a war criminal and a freak and a total liar. Russia
>> >> doesn't have a free press. Then again to disagree with Putin will get
>> >> you 15 years in jail or killed.


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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 09:59 UTC

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 18:44:14 +1000, Arindam Banerjee
<banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 13 April 2022 at 08:44:16 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 15:31:56 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, 12 April 2022 at 04:34:58 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 04:02:51 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Monday, 11 April 2022 at 13:33:45 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> >> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 02:04:29 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 15:40:10 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 22:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 03:00:33 UTC+10, Mattb wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 15:09:44 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> >> >> >> >> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >On Thursday, 7 April 2022 at 06:37:38 UTC+10, petzl wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 05:51:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> >> >> >> >> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMzZ_lVHv_A
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mersheimer sounds reasonable.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Bullshit he does. The Ukraine is just the most recent
>> in the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >series of Chechnya, Georgia, the Crimea and now the
>> Ukraine.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Nothing to do with NATO.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> Putin's claim was the invasion, he denied was going to
>> happen, was
>> >> >> >> >> >> because the Ukraine was going to join NATO?
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >Yes, if you go through the video you will see that is
>> exactly the case.
>> >> >> >> >> >NATO was trying to get Georgia into its orbit, and that
>> was stopped earlier by Putin.
>> >> >> >> >> >Then Ukraine too. Trump armed them.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Yet, but not enough, even so, they are kicking Russian
>> butts.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Just annoying them with the javelins and stingers.
>> >> >> >> >Russia is not treating them so far like the USAns treated
>> Vietnam or Japan.
>> >> >> >> >But as Mersheimer says, they will if they think they have to.
>> >> >> >> Russia is a nation of pussies and Putin is the next Hitler of
>> this
>> >> >> >> century with his attacks on civilians.
>> >No, US is a nation of pussies.

>> Some are. Yet Russia's defeat near Kiev shows what it is.

> They were beaten back by the new Javelin missiles.

And will be again in the eastern ukraine, you watch.

> Just a reverse.

And will be again in the eastern ukraine, you watch.

> What they want, they got.

Bullahit. You watch,

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 10:06 UTC

Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote

>>> A fine system, far better than US.

>> No.

> Yes. I would much rather stay in Russia than US.

Your problem, as always.

>>> He is a Czar and Russia has different ways.

>> Putin is a useless freak.

> To US, he is much worse than that! Heputs the spanner in their grabby
> works.

Just another of your pathetic little drug
crazed drunken curry muncher fantasys.

> But he is useful to the Washington SwampMonsters and the Deep State
> Devils.

Just another of your pathetic little drug
crazed drunken curry muncher fantasys.

> They are bursting out of their skins with joy,

Just another of your pathetic little drug
crazed drunken curry muncher fantasys.

> with the money from Putin's war.

Just another of your pathetic little drug
crazed drunken curry muncher fantasys.

> Stocks are booming in the war markets,

They were before Putin invaded, stupid.

> if Arnab Goswami is correct.

That fool wog never is.

>> >It works for most Russians and they like it this way.

>> Then why not have open elections.

> They have

Just another of your pathetic little drug
crazed drunken curry muncher fantasys.

> and they love Putin as Gorbachov says.

Just another of your pathetic little drug
crazed drunken curry muncher fantasys.

>> >All nations have their ways.

>> True.

>> >They need not follow other ways.
>> >USA gets along fine with Saudi, China etc. where ways are also brutal.

>> Yes, Russia wants to use its inhumane ways on other countries.Why
>> should not other countries treat Russia in a similar manner?

> They can try.

They have succeeded.

> Russia treats thirdworld countries very well, unlike the US.

Just another of your pathetic little drug
crazed drunken curry muncher fantasys.

They have done nothing of the sort with Cuba.

> So Russia is their favourite.

Just another of your pathetic little drug
crazed drunken curry muncher fantasys.

>> >> >Did Lincoln have a 80% approval rate in the North when he started
>> the civil war?
>> >> >Napoleon had a high approval rate. So did Hitler before WW2.
>> >> >Don't know what will happen. Putin is taking strict security
>> measures, so any assassin sent by your gods gotta be really good at his
>> job. At least as good as Jason Bourne, etc. Will life follow "art"?
>> >> What gods? Putin is a freak.
>> >I meant devils.
>> >Putin is wonderful, does his job, saves us from WW3.
>> No, NATO is a defensive alliance. No threat to Putin unless he
>> wants to conquer.

> What rubbish.

Your sig is sposed to be last with a line with just -- on it in front of
it, curry muncher.

> NATO has levelled Iraq and Libya.

Just another of your pathetic little drug
crazed drunken curry muncher fantasys.

> They wanted to hit Russia from below but that plan has been foiled by
> Putin.

Just another of your pathetic little drug
crazed drunken curry muncher fantasys.

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Some drug crased drunken curry muncher claiming to be
Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> spewed
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On Wednesday, 13 April 2022 at 19:56:35 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote:
his usual lying pig-shit, duly flushed.

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On Wednesday, 13 April 2022 at 19:59:25 UTC+10, Rod Speed wrote

A load of pigshit, duly flushed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qdauCnnxjM
Putin is cool, can never lose!

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 11:53:47 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 18:24:04 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 09:12:46 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 14:58:52 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>>That arsehole claimed that he wouldn't be invading.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't believe that for a second to have armies on 3 sides at the
>>>>same time. Only an idiot would believe anything that Putin says. The
>>>>guy has dementia.
>>>>
>>>Anyone or their media in Russia that says that is never seen again.
>>
>> So true.
>>
>
>Poison is Putin's favorite method, told he draws name out of hat to
>select those that have told the truth about him. You think Rod Speed's
>name is in that hat?
>Won't be the first time Russian operatives have murdered a Australian
>in Australia and gotten away with it!
>So much for the ANZUS treaty?
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANZUS>
>It provides that an armed attack on any of the three parties would be
>dangerous to the others, and that each should act to meet the common
>threat. It set up a committee of foreign ministers that can meet for
>consultation.
> ****************
>Fell apart when the USA and Australia aided France to bomb the Green
>Peace ship Rainbow Warrior in Auckland!
>Green Peace was sending the ship to stop nuclear tests in the French
>owned pacific Islands!

Not a fan of Green Peace. Those ships they use burn the most dirty
type of fuel there is also.
>>>
>>>The Clintons have the same thing going in the USA
>>>Heres a short list
>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Body_Count
>>
>> I have hoped that isn't true.
>>
>Well enter the "USA Mega Lottery®" and dream, dream, dream!

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:06:07 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 18:25:44 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>wrote:
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>>On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 09:06:00 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 10:13:28 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> The self preservation was way back when Stalin was trying to stamp
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> out, stupid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What has that to do with today?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's the evidence that they arent evil, fuckwit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No that is not evidence of what they are today, but in the past.
>>>>>
>>>>>Have fun showing that they are evil today.
>>>>
>>>> Putin and they support the war of aggression being done by Russia.
>>>>You are rather desperate to support that freak, Putin.
>>>>>
>>>Biden and Obama started this around 2013
>>>
>>>Yes Putin is maniacally murderous tyrant who thinks he is right
>>>Enjoy WWIII and Joe Bidens crack pipe
>>>Barack Obama once warned not to underestimate Joe Biden’s ‘ability to
>>>f**k things up’
>>>
>>>Obama and Biden were trying to gain control of Ukraine after the EU
>>>low balled Ukraine compensation for becoming part of NATO and decided
>>>to accept Russia's deal of a $15 billion loan and to cut Russian
>>>natural gas prices by almost a third.
>>>
>>>
>>>The US forever changed the trajectory of Russia-Ukraine relations: The
>>>2013 Russian trade deal was revoked, this pushed Russia into a similar
>>>deal with China a few months later, and the following years were
>>>filled with periodic announcements of Ukraine’s intentions to join
>>>NATO accompanied with showy military exercises like the NATO-sponsored
>>>‘Clear Sky’ event held in Ukraine in 2018.
>>
>>NATO would never invade Russia unless they attacked first..
>>
>The Russian's are bullshiting on their nuclear capability.

They have it. Might be antiquated except for that hypersonic
missile, but would be effective as the USA and the EU don't have
effective counter to them.

>They have done since the end of WWII
>They do not have the ability to react, which has to be done in seconds

For land based missiles about 25 minutes if sub then 2 to 8
minutes.
>>>
>>>
>>>Biden's Democrat control of US has forced Putin's hand to invade the
>>>Ukraine, as the Democrat dirty tricks reappeared
>>>
>>>This would not of happened under President Trump
>>
>>Maybe.
>>
>No maybe about it!
>Trump ended the Obama/Biden administration destabilizing of the
>Ukraine.
>Putin acted before Biden could bring it back, even while President
>Trump was in office the Obama/Biden/Clinton's were trying to turn the
>Ukraine against Russia. Hence the Russians shooting down a Malay
>airplane using un-badged Russian troops.
>
>The Democrats love the money war gives their oligarchs.
>Many of them RINO's

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:11:54 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 18:26:41 -0700, Mattb <trdell12345@gmail.com>
>wrote:
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>>>>>You don't consider intelligent design?
>>>>
>>>> I consider everything, what I don't do is not look at all the facts.
>>>>The Bible has flaws, and even if it didn't, there is no proof other
>>>>than a self-fulfilling prophecy, it is totally of God, the words of
>>>>Paul seem to be very militaristic in nature, not like Jesus.
>>>>
>>>> There is also evidence of evolution. Dinosaurs aren't mentioned and
>>>>we have fossils, how do you explain that?
>>>>
>>>Who knows, maybe all fossils were relics of Noah's flood?

OK. I have no idea.
>>
>> Doubt that in where they are found.
>>
>The "Grand Canyon of Colorado" was formed in Noah's flood
>>
>>>There are also arguments about the accuracy of carbon dating!
>>
>> There are also arguments about the accuracy of the Bible.
>>
>Scary news here,
>The concept of time is a human thing no time in heaven
>1 minute in heave seems like it may be a hundred years of paradise.
>Eternity is how long you think?

Eternity is forever.

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