On Feb 27, 2022 at 1:47:37 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<KrRSJ.104358$sga6.41870@fx10.ams1>:

> On 27/02/2022 20:38, Snit wrote:
>> On Feb 27, 2022 at 1:28:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <Q9RSJ.86410$5Ta3.15445@fx05.ams1>:
>>
>>> On 27/02/2022 20:23, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Feb 27, 2022 at 11:42:12 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.1h9h8mkamvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:48:06 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2022 at 1:11:07 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.1h4zoti6mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 22:27:04 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2022 at 2:24:39 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>>> <op.1h2a3dsxmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 17:12:52 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2022 at 11:55:47 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>>>>> <op.1hrxi9xdmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 05:07:57 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2022 at 10:05:43 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> <op.1hl8ftw5mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 05:02:34 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2022 at 9:50:35 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <op.1hl7qlpymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 07:48:11 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2022 at 7:49:35 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <op.1hj7gxsmmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 08:25:25 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 12, 2022 at 8:52:41 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <op.1hifp3a2mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2022 21:55:57 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 12, 2022 at 12:38:08 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <B0UNJ.192005$_5r7.47265@fx09.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/02/2022 18:04, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 12, 2022 at 1:30:00 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ceKNJ.19199$fGj4.2348@fx04.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/02/2022 03:46, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Brooks <Davidb_tj@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of that is natural progression... but to this day macOS systems tends to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle drag and drop better. My favorite examples is dragging YouTube URLs to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VLC where they play without ads.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VLC appears to be an old and outdated software program. It is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available from the Apple App Store. There it offers MKPlayer - much the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same thing I believe.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think VLC handles more formats =E2=80=94 but been a long time since I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used MK.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They really should update THIS page:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://ibb.co/5vqGRNm (Screenshot)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This one is fine:- https://www.videolan.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your advice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe they left in the OS X for folks with older systems or using older links?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps they have. I did drop them an email about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using OS X in 2022 is rather like folk using Windows 95 - best not to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so, in my opinion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would agree it is better to use newer systems... though not all have access.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you never heard of piratebay?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have though I have not used it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your "not all have access" is incorrect. Everyone has access to piratebay.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And then your ISP reports you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Move out of fucked up America. In the UK it's only a civil offence, so the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worst that can happen is the copyright owner takes you to court and all they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can get is the cost of what you "stole". ISPs don't report you here. If they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did, you can always use a VPN. I can be from any country I wish. State my IP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> address using only this post.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the US you can pay more and lose your 'net access. I think.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Land of the free, ROTFPMSL!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is amazing how many in the US insist we have more freedoms than any other
>>>>>>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And your IP is shown when you use PirateBay... this is not PirateBay. You can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use a VPN though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yip, just pretend to live in India.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not know much about India. If I pretended that I would quickly be called
>>>>>>>>>>>> out on it not being true.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Clearly I was talking about your IP, not your accent.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When I make videos, the main IP I share, I make them with my accept.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Was that a poor attempt at Ingrish?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That was auto-carrot with voice to text. Last word should be "accent".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Too lazy to use the keyboard? Or are you really the author of this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was on the phone when I was writing that... not that I type well on a
>>>>>> computer!
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah, you admit typing on a phone is absurd.
>>>
>>> What newsreader do you use on a 'phone?
>>
>> NewsTap. Wish my desktop app had some of the same features.
>
> OK. Thanks. I have that on my iPad but don't like it at all. :-(

On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 20:23:45 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 27, 2022 at 11:42:12 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.1h9h8mkamvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:48:06 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 25, 2022 at 1:11:07 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.1h4zoti6mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 22:27:04 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 23, 2022 at 2:24:39 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.1h2a3dsxmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 17:12:52 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2022 at 11:55:47 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>> <op.1hrxi9xdmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 05:07:57 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I do not know much about India. If I pretended that I would quickly be called
>>>>>>>>> out on it not being true.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Clearly I was talking about your IP, not your accent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I make videos, the main IP I share, I make them with my accept.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Was that a poor attempt at Ingrish?
>>>>>
>>>>> That was auto-carrot with voice to text. Last word should be "accent".
>>>>
>>>> Too lazy to use the keyboard? Or are you really the author of this?
>>>
>>> I was on the phone when I was writing that... not that I type well on a
>>> computer!
>>
>> Ah, you admit typing on a phone is absurd.
>
> It is harder on a small screen than full sized keyboard. Was that in question?

Not by you. But I had a conversation in an Android forum where a woman told me computers are dinosaurs and would soon disappear, and everyone would do everything on phones. She has a real keyboard and monitor connected to her phone and uses it like we use a computer. Very odd.

>> I thought at first, how can you use voice to text when talking on the phone.
>> "On the phone" means something different to people my age.
>
> Not sure you are much older than I am.

I was going to say I feel older, but you have similar health problems to me so maybe not.

As far as ideas go, I'd say I'm more old fashioned than you. I don't ever type much on my phone. I use it only for texts, calls, and the internet when I'm away from home and want to look something up, or pass the time watching youtube when waiting for someone.

On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 21:25:05 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 27, 2022 at 1:47:37 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <KrRSJ.104358$sga6.41870@fx10.ams1>:
>
>> On 27/02/2022 20:38, Snit wrote:
>>> On Feb 27, 2022 at 1:28:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <Q9RSJ.86410$5Ta3.15445@fx05.ams1>:
>>>
>>>> On 27/02/2022 20:23, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Feb 27, 2022 at 11:42:12 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.1h9h8mkamvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:48:06 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2022 at 1:11:07 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>> <op.1h4zoti6mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 22:27:04 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That was auto-carrot with voice to text. Last word should be "accent".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Too lazy to use the keyboard? Or are you really the author of this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was on the phone when I was writing that... not that I type well on a
>>>>>>> computer!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah, you admit typing on a phone is absurd.
>>>>
>>>> What newsreader do you use on a 'phone?
>>>
>>> NewsTap. Wish my desktop app had some of the same features.
>>
>> OK. Thanks. I have that on my iPad but don't like it at all. :-(
>
> There are things I like about it... and some things I do not. Like the
> flagging, do not like sorting.
>
>> What does that have which Usenapp doesn't? Have you discussed with the
>> developer at Xorosoft?
>
> I have... the flagging. Say I want to have any post with the word "penguin"
> marked... no way to do it.

Can't anything do that? On Opera I'd go to the folder I'm interested in, say "sent", and type "penguin" into the search box at the top. It immediately (dunno how it finds them so fast) only displays the posts with penguin in it.

>>>>> It is harder on a small screen than full sized keyboard. Was that in question?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought at first, how can you use voice to text when talking on the phone.
>>>>>> "On the phone" means something different to people my age.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure you are much older than I am.
>>>>
>>>> Try 10 years younger. That's why he's not as knowledgeable as you! ;-)
>>>
>>> Not surprised. :)
>>
>> He does behave rather childishly sometimes. ;-)
>
> Only sometimes?

Teenagers are the correct form of people. Adults have become too serious (the comedian Alan Davies suggested this and I agree fully). Ever heard of the phrase "young at heart"?

On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:48:37 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 25, 2022 at 1:06:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.1h4zhjd7mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 22:26:16 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2022 at 2:25:26 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.1h2a4ox5mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 17:13:10 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 17, 2022 at 11:52:52 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.1hrxee1jmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 05:06:18 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2022 at 9:59:42 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>> <op.1hl75syjmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:19:05 -0000, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is there something wrong with your computer?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, it's a Mac.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What an odd way to express jealousy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It never ceases to amaze me how you can misunderstand things. Are you one of
>>>>>> those people who thinks homophobic people are homosexual?
>>>>>
>>>>> Evidence shows there is a correlation there.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah.... people who hate something are that thing. What a crock of shit. So,
>>>> everyone who thinks murderers are scum are murderers themselves?
>>>
>>> You said nothing of the evidence... I doubt you are even aware of it.
>>
>> I do not believe utter shite. Think about it, how many people that hate
>> murderers are murderers?
>
> False equivalencies are false.
>
> Again: I am speaking of the evidence... a thing you tend to avoid.

Did you not understand my analogy? People who hate X are not likely to be X. If Mr smith was a homosexual, he wouldn't go around proclaiming they're all evil, thats not in his best interests.

In article <op.1ia1am2pmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>, Commander Kinsey
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

>
> Did you not understand my analogy? People who hate X are not likely to be X.
> If Mr smith was a homosexual, he wouldn't go around proclaiming they're all
> evil, thats not in his best interests.

go learn about repressed desires.

On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:51:31 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 25, 2022 at 1:00:57 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.1h4y7vh3mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 22:20:30 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2022 at 2:30:35 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.1h2bc900mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 19:36:25 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 19, 2022 at 11:42:19 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.1huowttdmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 17:06:33 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2022 at 2:33:33 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>> <op.1hr4t7oemvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:30:15 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2022 at 11:46:33 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <op.1hmc3vnsmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 07:48:58 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2022 at 7:53:38 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> <op.1hj7noy4mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 08:30:50 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 12, 2022 at 8:55:12 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <op.1hifuadzmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No we're not. You're free to be safe if you want. But it's wrong to force
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others to be safe if they don't want to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The standards are set and cannot be changed on a per-person situation. You go
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the store to buy an apple... they are not going to have the apples which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have had protections from regulations and the ones that have not. Or if they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do they cannot for every product.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But I can buy the fake apples from China with no regulations.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And if they are found to be unsafe the seller will face consequences.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> China doesn't bother with that shit. Almost everything I buy from China is
>>>>>>>>>> unsafe.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You have yet to point to the specific products.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have already, lightbulbs, battery chargers, anything that plugs in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But no specific product with a link to it on Amazon or the like so people can
>>>>>>> actually see if you found a product with no safety standards built into its
>>>>>>> design.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I take that as a direct insult. You are accusing me of lying. I shall not
>>>>>> provide proof otherwise.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am noting you have offered no evidence. And now you are working to change
>>>>> the topic.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not changing anything, I'm pointing out you don't beleive me.
>>>
>>> I have noted your failure to show any evidence. I do not think you are
>>> actively lying, but I do not know if you are accurate, and I suspect you are
>>> not.
>>
>> If you believe in me, you will accept my word.
>
> Your word is not the same as you showing evidence. Remember, I like evidence.

But I have seen the evidence, you are doubting my word.

On Feb 28, 2022 at 8:50:06 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.1ia4xsv1mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

>>>>>>>> But no specific product with a link to it on Amazon or the like so people can
>>>>>>>> actually see if you found a product with no safety standards built into its
>>>>>>>> design.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I take that as a direct insult. You are accusing me of lying. I shall not
>>>>>>> provide proof otherwise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am noting you have offered no evidence. And now you are working to change
>>>>>> the topic.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not changing anything, I'm pointing out you don't beleive me.
>>>>
>>>> I have noted your failure to show any evidence. I do not think you are
>>>> actively lying, but I do not know if you are accurate, and I suspect you are
>>>> not.
>>>
>>> If you believe in me, you will accept my word.
>>
>> Your word is not the same as you showing evidence. Remember, I like evidence.
>
> But I have seen the evidence, you are doubting my word.

I absolutely doubt your accuracy. Your claim is rather absurd... pretty much
any product you get will be tied to some safety standards or regulations. And
you have no evidence to back the idea they are not. Not a single product which
fails to have any such standards. Not one.

So, yes, I doubt your rather outrageous claim.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Feb 28, 2022 at 7:31:24 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.1ia1am2pmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:48:37 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 25, 2022 at 1:06:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.1h4zhjd7mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 22:26:16 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Feb 23, 2022 at 2:25:26 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.1h2a4ox5mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 17:13:10 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2022 at 11:52:52 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.1hrxee1jmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 05:06:18 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2022 at 9:59:42 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>>> <op.1hl75syjmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:19:05 -0000, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is there something wrong with your computer?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, it's a Mac.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What an odd way to express jealousy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It never ceases to amaze me how you can misunderstand things. Are you one of
>>>>>>> those people who thinks homophobic people are homosexual?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Evidence shows there is a correlation there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah.... people who hate something are that thing. What a crock of shit. So,
>>>>> everyone who thinks murderers are scum are murderers themselves?
>>>>
>>>> You said nothing of the evidence... I doubt you are even aware of it.
>>>
>>> I do not believe utter shite. Think about it, how many people that hate
>>> murderers are murderers?
>>
>> False equivalencies are false.
>>
>> Again: I am speaking of the evidence... a thing you tend to avoid.
>
> Did you not understand my analogy? People who hate X are not likely to be X.
> If Mr smith was a homosexual, he wouldn't go around proclaiming they're all
> evil, thats not in his best interests.

I understand why your analogy is a side issue and not relevant... it is a
false equivalency. And, again, I tend to go with evidence and not your gut
feelings. Your gut feelings are not evidence.

Here is one study:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8772014/
-----
Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the
homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.
-----

This has been replicated and found repeatedly to be true.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Feb 28, 2022 at 7:19:16 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.1ia0qeromvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 21:25:05 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 27, 2022 at 1:47:37 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <KrRSJ.104358$sga6.41870@fx10.ams1>:
>>
>>> On 27/02/2022 20:38, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Feb 27, 2022 at 1:28:31 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <Q9RSJ.86410$5Ta3.15445@fx05.ams1>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 27/02/2022 20:23, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Feb 27, 2022 at 11:42:12 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.1h9h8mkamvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:48:06 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2022 at 1:11:07 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>>> <op.1h4zoti6mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 22:27:04 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That was auto-carrot with voice to text. Last word should be "accent".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Too lazy to use the keyboard? Or are you really the author of this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was on the phone when I was writing that... not that I type well on a
>>>>>>>> computer!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah, you admit typing on a phone is absurd.
>>>>>
>>>>> What newsreader do you use on a 'phone?
>>>>
>>>> NewsTap. Wish my desktop app had some of the same features.
>>>
>>> OK. Thanks. I have that on my iPad but don't like it at all. :-(
>>
>> There are things I like about it... and some things I do not. Like the
>> flagging, do not like sorting.
>>
>>> What does that have which Usenapp doesn't? Have you discussed with the
>>> developer at Xorosoft?
>>
>> I have... the flagging. Say I want to have any post with the word "penguin"
>> marked... no way to do it.
>
> Can't anything do that? On Opera I'd go to the folder I'm interested in, say
> "sent", and type "penguin" into the search box at the top. It immediately
> (dunno how it finds them so fast) only displays the posts with penguin in it.

Usenapp does it... but it is slow. And even with what you describe you have to
do a search. I want smart folders where I can select them and the searches are
already done, or as a second-best to be able to color code messages with
specific content.

>
>>>>>> It is harder on a small screen than full sized keyboard. Was that in question?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought at first, how can you use voice to text when talking on the phone.
>>>>>>> "On the phone" means something different to people my age.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure you are much older than I am.
>>>>>
>>>>> Try 10 years younger. That's why he's not as knowledgeable as you! ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Not surprised. :)
>>>
>>> He does behave rather childishly sometimes. ;-)
>>
>> Only sometimes?
>
> Teenagers are the correct form of people. Adults have become too serious (the
> comedian Alan Davies suggested this and I agree fully). Ever heard of the
> phrase "young at heart"?

https://youtu.be/45Fvy5h38KI

Many advantages to teenagers... though their brains are not fully developed
until they are 25 or so.

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Feb 28, 2022 at 7:16:12 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.1ia0lanrmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 20:23:45 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 27, 2022 at 11:42:12 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.1h9h8mkamvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:48:06 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Feb 25, 2022 at 1:11:07 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.1h4zoti6mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 22:27:04 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2022 at 2:24:39 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.1h2a3dsxmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 17:12:52 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2022 at 11:55:47 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>>> <op.1hrxi9xdmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 05:07:57 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I do not know much about India. If I pretended that I would quickly be called
>>>>>>>>>> out on it not being true.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Clearly I was talking about your IP, not your accent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I make videos, the main IP I share, I make them with my accept.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Was that a poor attempt at Ingrish?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That was auto-carrot with voice to text. Last word should be "accent".
>>>>>
>>>>> Too lazy to use the keyboard? Or are you really the author of this?
>>>>
>>>> I was on the phone when I was writing that... not that I type well on a
>>>> computer!
>>>
>>> Ah, you admit typing on a phone is absurd.
>>
>> It is harder on a small screen than full sized keyboard. Was that in question?
>
> Not by you.

Nor anyone in this conversation. :)

> But I had a conversation in an Android forum where a woman told me computers
> are dinosaurs and would soon disappear, and everyone would do everything on
> phones. She has a real keyboard and monitor connected to her phone and uses it
> like we use a computer. Very odd.

I have seen that claim, too. I think Carroll has said much the same -- at
least for most people. I think he has. If he says otherwise I accept that...
not looking to get him riled up.

>
>>> I thought at first, how can you use voice to text when talking on the phone.
>>> "On the phone" means something different to people my age.
>>
>> Not sure you are much older than I am.
>
> I was going to say I feel older, but you have similar health problems to me so
> maybe not.

Likely not.

>
> As far as ideas go, I'd say I'm more old fashioned than you. I don't ever type
> much on my phone. I use it only for texts,

How do you do texts without typing?

> calls, and the internet when I'm away from home and want to look something up,
> or pass the time watching youtube when waiting for someone.

I do more and more on my phone these days.

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:52:25 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 25, 2022 at 12:05:40 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.1h4wnqnimvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 22:12:25 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2022 at 4:08:46 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <22eRJ.242536$_5r7.214859@fx09.ams1>:
>>>
>>>> On 22/02/2022 22:11, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Feb 22, 2022 at 12:37:28 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <YXaRJ.35647$EjU2.10121@fx07.ams1>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 19:31, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2022 at 12:20:39 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>> <cIaRJ.68297$fIV5.13225@fx12.ams1>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 19:13, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2022 at 11:56:16 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <llaRJ.965257$YlU2.351869@fx08.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 15:00, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 19:59:52 -0000, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>>>> Macs aren't even the same, the older ones had only close on the left and
>>>>>>>>>>> the other two on the right!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm fairly sure you'd find the new macOS far better than the problematic
>>>>>>>>>> ones you experienced in the past.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Comparing modern Windows with Macs from 20 years ago does seem odd. To be
>>>>>>>>> fair, though, there are some things from Classic MacOS I still miss.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The first one I bought had OS X Leopard and I've used every Apple
>>>>>>>> operating system since then. I had to purchase new hardware, though, to
>>>>>>>> progress past El Capitan (IIRC)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Classic Mac was pretty amazing for its time, and there are still some things
>>>>>>> about the Finder and about Preferences files, how the "recent" items were
>>>>>>> handled in the Apple menu, and I am sure some more that I miss. Overall,
>>>>>>> though, the modern OS is far past what existed 20 years ago... as one would
>>>>>>> figure!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I first considered buying a Mac in 1983 - but bought British instead!
>>>>>
>>>>> Macs came out in 1984, but they had the Apple II systems before that. My
>>>>> family had an Apple IIe -- my brother's but I got to use it. I really like
>>>>> AppleWorks -- a word processor, spreadsheet, and database combo.
>>>>
>>>> My mistake - I should have said Apple computer.
>>>
>>> If figured you might have meant that.
>>
>> At least you accept some people don't have OCD.
>
> Never suggested otherwise.

Then follow their lead.

On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:53:20 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 25, 2022 at 12:05:10 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.1h4wmwapmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 22:11:17 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2022 at 12:37:28 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <YXaRJ.35647$EjU2.10121@fx07.ams1>:
>>>
>>>> On 22/02/2022 19:31, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Feb 22, 2022 at 12:20:39 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <cIaRJ.68297$fIV5.13225@fx12.ams1>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 19:13, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2022 at 11:56:16 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>> <llaRJ.965257$YlU2.351869@fx08.ams1>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 15:00, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 19:59:52 -0000, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>> Macs aren't even the same, the older ones had only close on the left and
>>>>>>>>> the other two on the right!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm fairly sure you'd find the new macOS far better than the problematic
>>>>>>>> ones you experienced in the past.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Comparing modern Windows with Macs from 20 years ago does seem odd. To be
>>>>>>> fair, though, there are some things from Classic MacOS I still miss.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The first one I bought had OS X Leopard and I've used every Apple
>>>>>> operating system since then. I had to purchase new hardware, though, to
>>>>>> progress past El Capitan (IIRC)
>>>>>
>>>>> Classic Mac was pretty amazing for its time, and there are still some things
>>>>> about the Finder and about Preferences files, how the "recent" items were
>>>>> handled in the Apple menu, and I am sure some more that I miss. Overall,
>>>>> though, the modern OS is far past what existed 20 years ago... as one would
>>>>> figure!
>>>>
>>>> I first considered buying a Mac in 1983 - but bought British instead!
>>>
>>> Macs came out in 1984, but they had the Apple II systems before that. My
>>> family had an Apple IIe -- my brother's but I got to use it. I really like
>>> AppleWorks -- a word processor, spreadsheet, and database combo.
>>
>> Where did the silly idea of calling them Macs come from?
>
> Misspelling of McIntosh.

All those sorta names can be spelt Mc or Mac. So who is this Macintosh? The only one I know of invented some stupid new age furniture with everything at right angles.

On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:54:29 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 25, 2022 at 12:04:43 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.1h4wl51rmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 19:31:00 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2022 at 12:20:39 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <cIaRJ.68297$fIV5.13225@fx12.ams1>:
>>>
>>>> On 22/02/2022 19:13, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Feb 22, 2022 at 11:56:16 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <llaRJ.965257$YlU2.351869@fx08.ams1>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 15:00, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 19:59:52 -0000, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>> Macs aren't even the same, the older ones had only close on the left and
>>>>>>> the other two on the right!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm fairly sure you'd find the new macOS far better than the problematic
>>>>>> ones you experienced in the past.
>>>>>
>>>>> Comparing modern Windows with Macs from 20 years ago does seem odd. To be
>>>>> fair, though, there are some things from Classic MacOS I still miss.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The first one I bought had OS X Leopard and I've used every Apple
>>>> operating system since then. I had to purchase new hardware, though, to
>>>> progress past El Capitan (IIRC)
>>>
>>> Classic Mac was pretty amazing for its time, and there are still some things
>>> about the Finder and about Preferences files, how the "recent" items were
>>> handled in the Apple menu, and I am sure some more that I miss. Overall,
>>> though, the modern OS is far past what existed 20 years ago... as one would
>>> figure!
>>
>> When I were a young sexy fit lad at school, ok a young lad, there were mac
>> classics and PCs. The Macs were shite. Black and white 9 inch screens for
>> crying out loud! The BBCs were better. Good doorstops though.
>
> I used the old 9 inch screen ones. The screens were nasty... but I knew when I
> saw MS Word and other tools on the Mac that I was looking at the future. That
> was back when PCs had DOS and people use WordPerfect 5.1.

No, as I said, colour 286s with Windows 2.

On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:55:00 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 25, 2022 at 12:03:21 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.1h4wjvjrmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 19:20:39 -0000, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 22/02/2022 19:13, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Feb 22, 2022 at 11:56:16 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <llaRJ.965257$YlU2.351869@fx08.ams1>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 22/02/2022 15:00, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 19:59:52 -0000, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>> Macs aren't even the same, the older ones had only close on the left and
>>>>>> the other two on the right!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm fairly sure you'd find the new macOS far better than the problematic
>>>>> ones you experienced in the past.
>>>>
>>>> Comparing modern Windows with Macs from 20 years ago does seem odd. To be
>>>> fair, though, there are some things from Classic MacOS I still miss.
>>>
>>> The first one I bought had OS X Leopard and I've used every Apple
>>> operating system since then. I had to purchase new hardware, though, to
>>> progress past El Capitan (IIRC)
>>
>> This is as bad as Android. How the fuck are users supposed to know if a
>> Leopard is better than a Tiger? Why not just 10.1, 10.2, 10.3 etc?
>
> I tend to look at the version numbers... but many products have such names.
> Look at Android and the candy names.

Exactly they're both stupid. I go to download a program for my phone and it says "this is compatible with lollipop and upwards". How the fuck do I know if a candy is more than a lollipop? I'm not a fucking child, I know how to count.

On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:57:02 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 25, 2022 at 12:02:15 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.1h4wh1ddmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 19:20:48 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2022 at 7:59:00 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.1hzykmgnmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 19:44:37 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 16, 2022 at 9:56:56 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <t1aPJ.27149$EjU2.15366@fx07.ams1>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 16/02/2022 07:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 08:31:18 -0000, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 15/02/2022 04:59, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:19:05 -0000, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 14/02/2022 07:52, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2022 at 5:42:31 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> <X07OJ.946866$YlU2.320787@fx08.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/02/2022 08:32, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2022 at 12:34:52 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ww2OJ.599196$hye7.469327@fx11.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/02/2022 01:29, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 12, 2022 at 4:15:07 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <%bXNJ.54766$fIV5.3566@fx12.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/02/2022 23:08, nospam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have they recently reduced their cut?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whoosh^2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how is it you don't understand very simple words?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is english your second language?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How did you type this word? whoosh^2 (squared - not as it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come out now)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean not as it came out?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/p3mmj3Y/Screenshot-2022-02-12-at-23-18-04.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whoosh carrot 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How else would it be seen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Like this - https://ibb.co/Q84GGX5
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> can you not see it displayed like this in this thread?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Skimming the thread I do not see that... and when I copy and paste
>>>>>>>>>>> superscript
>>>>>>>>>>> into my editor now it does not "take". Curious.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is there something wrong with your computer?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, it's a Mac.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess you've STILL not been into an Apple shop and actually TRIED one!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I fucking worked with the bloody things for 11 years. And persuaded 99%
>>>>>>> of the users to switch to Windows!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's like saying you worked with and didn't like a Ford Cortina.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MANY things have improved over the last 15 years. TRY one of the new ones!
>>>>>
>>>>> Even 20+ years ago when I taught OS support at Intuit it was informative of
>>>>> Window and Macs.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Mac to Windows users were baffled at how bizarre things were. Why not
>>>>> allow drag and drop for X, Y, or Z? Why have the control panels be so split
>>>>> up?
>>>>
>>>> ROFL! Remember when Macs couldn't copy and paste files? They insisted on this
>>>> silly drag and drop!
>>>
>>> They handled drag and drop better than Windows. They still do.
>>
>> Drag and drop is overrated.
>
> Not when it works well... you are just not used to it doing so.

As below, the two places are not usually both visible.

>>>> Most people do not have multiple things on display at once, that requires a
>>>> very large screen or multiple monitors.
>>>
>>> There was value to adding copy and paste for files, but it was not that big of
>>> a deal.
>>
>> It was a HUGE deal. Having to open the source and destination folder and get
>> them both lined up and visible was ridiculous.
>
> Not generally.

How is it not ridiculous to have to open two folders at once and have them both visible to transfer a file?

>>> Things like spring loaded folders made dragging to "deeper" areas not
>>> that hard. I still use that more than I use copy and paste... it is more
>>> visual and I can do it with tabs and the like. But both are fine.
>>
>> Way easier to go to the source, copy, go to the destination, paste.
>
> Unless you get caught up in something as you dig.

Like what?

>> I do the same in a Word document, I don't this dragging shit.
>>
>>>>> The Windows to Mac users did sometimes miss features -- but overall they
>>>>> caught on very quickly on how to use the systems and wanted to know why things
>>>>> could not be this easy on Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> This was not just me but the other trainers, so not based on a bias of my
>>>>> teaching.
>>>>
>>>> I found the exact opposite with every single user I dealt with. Windows was
>>>> easy to work out, Mac was just too weird.
>>>
>>> And yet you refuse to make a video or show any examples of where you think
>>> Windows handles things better.
>>
>> Only because I won't waste time explaining the obvious to you.
>
> It is obvious that the workflow on Windows is harder. Sure.

Stop using leftie buzzwords.

>>>> I think I understand the difference in our experiences. Macs sell better in
>>>> America, where the average IQ is lower. I see Macs as a Mickey Mouse computer,
>>>> oversimplified.
>>>
>>> Making things easier is what computers are meant to do. Why make things more
>>> complex than they need to be?
>>
>> Because Windows isn't complex to someone with three digits in their IQ. We
>> need to delete those with 2 digits, they're dragging down society.
>
> Yet you cannot describe things that are done better on Windows. Curious.

Done it many times.

In article <op.1id4e5h1mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>, Commander Kinsey
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

> >>> Macs came out in 1984, but they had the Apple II systems before that. My
> >>> family had an Apple IIe -- my brother's but I got to use it. I really like
> >>> AppleWorks -- a word processor, spreadsheet, and database combo.
> >>
> >> Where did the silly idea of calling them Macs come from?
> >
> > Misspelling of McIntosh.
>
> All those sorta names can be spelt Mc or Mac. So who is this Macintosh?
> The only one I know of invented some stupid new age furniture with everything at right angles.

it was a deliberate misspelling of a popular type of apple.

In article <op.1id8kuufmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>, Commander Kinsey
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

> > I tend to look at the version numbers... but many products have such names.
> > Look at Android and the candy names.
>
> Exactly they're both stupid. I go to download a program for my phone and it
> says "this is compatible with lollipop and upwards". How the fuck do I know
> if a candy is more than a lollipop?

the names are dessert names (not candy) that are alphabetically
sequential.

anyone who knows the alphabet will have no problem whatsoever, even a
1st grade kid.

> I'm not a fucking child, I know how to count.

given the evidence, you very much are, and you don't.

In article <op.1id8nkqkmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>, Commander Kinsey
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

> How is it not ridiculous to have to open two folders at once and have them
> both visible to transfer a file?

how is it not ridiculous to have only one folder open?

not that it matters, since there is no requirement that there be two
folders open. one folder will easily work, and in some cases, no open
folders at all.

if you're going to bash, it's best to find actual problems, not made up
shit.

On Mar 1, 2022 at 11:31:43 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.1id4e5h1mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:53:20 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 25, 2022 at 12:05:10 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.1h4wmwapmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 22:11:17 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Feb 22, 2022 at 12:37:28 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <YXaRJ.35647$EjU2.10121@fx07.ams1>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 22/02/2022 19:31, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2022 at 12:20:39 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <cIaRJ.68297$fIV5.13225@fx12.ams1>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 19:13, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2022 at 11:56:16 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>> <llaRJ.965257$YlU2.351869@fx08.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 15:00, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 19:59:52 -0000, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>>> Macs aren't even the same, the older ones had only close on the left and
>>>>>>>>>> the other two on the right!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm fairly sure you'd find the new macOS far better than the problematic
>>>>>>>>> ones you experienced in the past.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Comparing modern Windows with Macs from 20 years ago does seem odd. To be
>>>>>>>> fair, though, there are some things from Classic MacOS I still miss.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The first one I bought had OS X Leopard and I've used every Apple
>>>>>>> operating system since then. I had to purchase new hardware, though, to
>>>>>>> progress past El Capitan (IIRC)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Classic Mac was pretty amazing for its time, and there are still some things
>>>>>> about the Finder and about Preferences files, how the "recent" items were
>>>>>> handled in the Apple menu, and I am sure some more that I miss. Overall,
>>>>>> though, the modern OS is far past what existed 20 years ago... as one would
>>>>>> figure!
>>>>>
>>>>> I first considered buying a Mac in 1983 - but bought British instead!
>>>>
>>>> Macs came out in 1984, but they had the Apple II systems before that. My
>>>> family had an Apple IIe -- my brother's but I got to use it. I really like
>>>> AppleWorks -- a word processor, spreadsheet, and database combo.
>>>
>>> Where did the silly idea of calling them Macs come from?
>>
>> Misspelling of McIntosh.
>
> All those sorta names can be spelt Mc or Mac. So who is this Macintosh? The
> only one I know of invented some stupid new age furniture with everything at
> right angles.

The apple variety is McIntosh. The Macintosh name is based on that, but either
on accident or purpose they misspelled it. I would like to think on purpose.

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Mar 1, 2022 at 11:30:49 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.1id4dny6mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:52:25 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 25, 2022 at 12:05:40 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.1h4wnqnimvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 22:12:25 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Feb 22, 2022 at 4:08:46 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <22eRJ.242536$_5r7.214859@fx09.ams1>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 22/02/2022 22:11, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2022 at 12:37:28 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <YXaRJ.35647$EjU2.10121@fx07.ams1>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 19:31, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2022 at 12:20:39 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>> <cIaRJ.68297$fIV5.13225@fx12.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 19:13, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2022 at 11:56:16 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>> <llaRJ.965257$YlU2.351869@fx08.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 15:00, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 19:59:52 -0000, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Macs aren't even the same, the older ones had only close on the left and
>>>>>>>>>>>> the other two on the right!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm fairly sure you'd find the new macOS far better than the problematic
>>>>>>>>>>> ones you experienced in the past.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Comparing modern Windows with Macs from 20 years ago does seem odd. To be
>>>>>>>>>> fair, though, there are some things from Classic MacOS I still miss.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The first one I bought had OS X Leopard and I've used every Apple
>>>>>>>>> operating system since then. I had to purchase new hardware, though, to
>>>>>>>>> progress past El Capitan (IIRC)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Classic Mac was pretty amazing for its time, and there are still some things
>>>>>>>> about the Finder and about Preferences files, how the "recent" items were
>>>>>>>> handled in the Apple menu, and I am sure some more that I miss. Overall,
>>>>>>>> though, the modern OS is far past what existed 20 years ago... as one would
>>>>>>>> figure!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I first considered buying a Mac in 1983 - but bought British instead!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Macs came out in 1984, but they had the Apple II systems before that. My
>>>>>> family had an Apple IIe -- my brother's but I got to use it. I really like
>>>>>> AppleWorks -- a word processor, spreadsheet, and database combo.
>>>>>
>>>>> My mistake - I should have said Apple computer.
>>>>
>>>> If figured you might have meant that.
>>>
>>> At least you accept some people don't have OCD.
>>
>> Never suggested otherwise.
>
> Then follow their lead.

I shall not join you in pushing such rules onto others.

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On Mar 2, 2022 at 1:01:32 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.1id8kuufmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:55:00 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 25, 2022 at 12:03:21 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.1h4wjvjrmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 19:20:39 -0000, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 22/02/2022 19:13, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Feb 22, 2022 at 11:56:16 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <llaRJ.965257$YlU2.351869@fx08.ams1>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22/02/2022 15:00, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 19:59:52 -0000, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>> Macs aren't even the same, the older ones had only close on the left and
>>>>>>> the other two on the right!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm fairly sure you'd find the new macOS far better than the problematic
>>>>>> ones you experienced in the past.
>>>>>
>>>>> Comparing modern Windows with Macs from 20 years ago does seem odd. To be
>>>>> fair, though, there are some things from Classic MacOS I still miss.
>>>>
>>>> The first one I bought had OS X Leopard and I've used every Apple
>>>> operating system since then. I had to purchase new hardware, though, to
>>>> progress past El Capitan (IIRC)
>>>
>>> This is as bad as Android. How the fuck are users supposed to know if a
>>> Leopard is better than a Tiger? Why not just 10.1, 10.2, 10.3 etc?
>>
>> I tend to look at the version numbers... but many products have such names.
>> Look at Android and the candy names.
>
> Exactly they're both stupid. I go to download a program for my phone and it
> says "this is compatible with lollipop and upwards". How the fuck do I know if
> a candy is more than a lollipop? I'm not a fucking child, I know how to count.

I actually tend to agree with you and prefer numbers... but what the hell
happened to Windows 4 through 94? And then what type number is NT. And then
what version of Windows 10 or Windows 11 are you running? How do you
differentiate? The latest Windows 10 version is, from what I just found on
line, "20H2". What the hell is that about?

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In article <utTTJ.18105$uW1.8979@fx27.iad>, Snit
<brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Exactly they're both stupid. I go to download a program for my phone and it
> > says "this is compatible with lollipop and upwards". How the fuck do I know
> > if
> > a candy is more than a lollipop? I'm not a fucking child, I know how to
> > count.
>
> I actually tend to agree with you and prefer numbers... but what the hell
> happened to Windows 4 through 94? And then what type number is NT. And then
> what version of Windows 10 or Windows 11 are you running? How do you
> differentiate? The latest Windows 10 version is, from what I just found on
> line, "20H2". What the hell is that about?

2020, 2nd half.

initially, win10 updates used names:

anniversary update
creator's update
fall creator's update

then they used year/month (e.g., 1903, 1909), which posed a problem
with windows 10 2003 because it conflicted with windows server 2003
from long ago, so they bumped the win10 update to 2004, which still
confused people.

now it's year/half, which gives them some breathing room as to when
it's actually released.

On Mar 2, 2022 at 1:03:10 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.1id8nkqkmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:57:02 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 25, 2022 at 12:02:15 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.1h4wh1ddmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 19:20:48 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Feb 22, 2022 at 7:59:00 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.1hzykmgnmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 19:44:37 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2022 at 9:56:56 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <t1aPJ.27149$EjU2.15366@fx07.ams1>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 16/02/2022 07:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 08:31:18 -0000, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 15/02/2022 04:59, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:19:05 -0000, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/02/2022 07:52, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2022 at 5:42:31 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> <X07OJ.946866$YlU2.320787@fx08.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/02/2022 08:32, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2022 at 12:34:52 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ww2OJ.599196$hye7.469327@fx11.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/02/2022 01:29, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 12, 2022 at 4:15:07 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <%bXNJ.54766$fIV5.3566@fx12.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/02/2022 23:08, nospam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [....]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have they recently reduced their cut?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whoosh^2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how is it you don't understand very simple words?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is english your second language?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How did you type this word? whoosh^2 (squared - not as it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come out now)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean not as it came out?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/p3mmj3Y/Screenshot-2022-02-12-at-23-18-04.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whoosh carrot 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How else would it be seen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like this - https://ibb.co/Q84GGX5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you not see it displayed like this in this thread?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Skimming the thread I do not see that... and when I copy and paste
>>>>>>>>>>>> superscript
>>>>>>>>>>>> into my editor now it does not "take". Curious.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is there something wrong with your computer?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it's a Mac.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I guess you've STILL not been into an Apple shop and actually TRIED one!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I fucking worked with the bloody things for 11 years. And persuaded 99%
>>>>>>>> of the users to switch to Windows!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's like saying you worked with and didn't like a Ford Cortina.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> MANY things have improved over the last 15 years. TRY one of the new ones!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even 20+ years ago when I taught OS support at Intuit it was informative of
>>>>>> Window and Macs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Mac to Windows users were baffled at how bizarre things were. Why not
>>>>>> allow drag and drop for X, Y, or Z? Why have the control panels be so split
>>>>>> up?
>>>>>
>>>>> ROFL! Remember when Macs couldn't copy and paste files? They insisted on this
>>>>> silly drag and drop!
>>>>
>>>> They handled drag and drop better than Windows. They still do.
>>>
>>> Drag and drop is overrated.
>>
>> Not when it works well... you are just not used to it doing so.
>
> As below, the two places are not usually both visible.

Spring loaded folders. There were also third party apps to give you a shelf. I
can see your point, and I think this counts as a place where Windows *was*
ahead, but it was rarely an issue. Also not like PDF Services is a huge deal.

>>>>> Most people do not have multiple things on display at once, that requires a
>>>>> very large screen or multiple monitors.
>>>>
>>>> There was value to adding copy and paste for files, but it was not that big of
>>>> a deal.
>>>
>>> It was a HUGE deal. Having to open the source and destination folder and get
>>> them both lined up and visible was ridiculous.
>>
>> Not generally.
>
> How is it not ridiculous to have to open two folders at once and have them
> both visible to transfer a file?

Why would you have to? Why not use Spring Loaded folders. But I do get your
point -- sorta why I like PDF Services, no need to dig through folders. Never
thought of how those were similar... so thank you.

>>>> Things like spring loaded folders made dragging to "deeper" areas not
>>>> that hard. I still use that more than I use copy and paste... it is more
>>>> visual and I can do it with tabs and the like. But both are fine.
>>>
>>> Way easier to go to the source, copy, go to the destination, paste.
>>
>> Unless you get caught up in something as you dig.
>
> Like what?

The ol' something shiny came along that most folks have on the computer.

>
>>> I do the same in a Word document, I don't this dragging shit.
>>>
>>>>>> The Windows to Mac users did sometimes miss features -- but overall they
>>>>>> caught on very quickly on how to use the systems and wanted to know why things
>>>>>> could not be this easy on Windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was not just me but the other trainers, so not based on a bias of my
>>>>>> teaching.
>>>>>
>>>>> I found the exact opposite with every single user I dealt with. Windows was
>>>>> easy to work out, Mac was just too weird.
>>>>
>>>> And yet you refuse to make a video or show any examples of where you think
>>>> Windows handles things better.
>>>
>>> Only because I won't waste time explaining the obvious to you.
>>
>> It is obvious that the workflow on Windows is harder. Sure.
>
> Stop using leftie buzzwords.

On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 08:15:32 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 26, 2022 at 11:45:31 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.1h8k15r4mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:02:54 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 26, 2022 at 2:29:43 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.1h7vbtmvmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 03:42:34 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 24, 2022 at 8:35:38 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.1h4mxojdmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 03:13:35 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we had a discussion where you said you can show you can open a door in a
>>>>>>> better way than I can, and I disagreed, it would make sense for me to show
>>>>>>> you. At the very least I would describe in detail what I meant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But you weren't discussing showing something, you were discussing the ease of
>>>>>> showing something. And your something was something that doesn't need to be
>>>>>> shown.
>>>>>
>>>>> The original point was the ease at saving a receipt to a web receipts folder.
>>>>> This can, of course, be done on Windows. Save it as a PDF, drag and drop (or
>>>>> copy and paste). Or navigate in the save dialog. If you use it a lot you can
>>>>> even add it as a favorite. It is not like this is a challenging task in
>>>>> Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> The point was on macOS you can do those things, too, but there is an easier
>>>>> method where I just "print" it to PDF and then use the PDF menu to put it
>>>>> where I want. I can do this to preset folder (such as the web receipts) or to
>>>>> ones I set up myself (such as my recipes folder). I can even have the PDF sent
>>>>> to Mail or another app or sent to a script of my own design. Or one I find
>>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> How the fuck is that easier? Why would you want to use "print" to save?
>>>
>>> It is odd to have the PDF functions in the Save dialog, though it makes sense
>>> given how the system works in the background. But where else would you have
>>> such a PDF menu... it uses all the same features.
>>
>> Why it would be odd to put it in the save dialog? You're saving a file.
>
> But you would not have the same options. For example, the Save dialog does not
> let you select pages.

Why would you be more likely to select pages in pdf than any other format?

>>> And I showed you how it is easier... and then you waved your white flag. :)
>>
>> You can do the same nonsense in Windows.
>
> Nope. You can save it and then open it in another app or move it where you
> want (or dig down in the Save dialog).

This part is discussing PDF saving.

>> But I hate PDFs and steer clear of them, and anything else made by Adobe.
>>
>>>>> This is one area where macOS offers tools to make things easier where Windows
>>>>> does not. Does not mean macOS is better in all areas -- as we have talked
>>>>> about, the new window management tools in Windows are ahead of the default
>>>>> ones on macOS. In that case it is pretty easy to get third party tools to add
>>>>> onto macOS, but the point remains that Windows default is "better" for many
>>>>> folks.
>>>>
>>>> The defaults of curvy corners are not better.
>>>
>>> They do not really impact functionality in any way I can see.
>>
>> Well you're missing out on many pixels.
>
> Where does it impact functionality?

Please become a human.

>>>>>>> You just tossed in your white flag... but then wanted to be seen as having
>>>>>>> "won". It really is that simple: you have your ego tied to Windows and will
>>>>>>> not admit that macOS does something better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, I just have better things to do than spend more time than writing a
>>>>>> sentence in response to you. You might notice you often write a paragraph and
>>>>>> I write once sentence back. You remind me of a certain woman....
>>>>>
>>>>> Above I write a bit to go into detail... but with the whole PDF saving you
>>>>> have spent a LOT more time making excuses than it took me to show you what I
>>>>> was talking about. Still not even sure if you understand.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://youtu.be/oNI6aFcuhY0
>>>>
>>>> Typical lefty. "You're confused, you don't understand."
>>>
>>> You show no sign of understanding. Same, really, with things like climate
>>> change and Covid.
>>
>> I understand them perfectly, just like I understand god doesn't exist.
>
> You deny the evidence of climate change, Covid, etc.

The evidence of climate change is made up to continue the government's embarrassing spending on it. It and covid are also causing worry warts like you to overreact.

>>> Then you play victim over it.
>>
>> I what?
>
> When it is noted you are not understanding you play victim.

When have I "played victim"?

On Mar 3, 2022 at 12:12:14 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.1igyaod3mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 08:15:32 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 26, 2022 at 11:45:31 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.1h8k15r4mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:02:54 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Feb 26, 2022 at 2:29:43 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.1h7vbtmvmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 03:42:34 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2022 at 8:35:38 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.1h4mxojdmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 03:13:35 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If we had a discussion where you said you can show you can open a door in a
>>>>>>>> better way than I can, and I disagreed, it would make sense for me to show
>>>>>>>> you. At the very least I would describe in detail what I meant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But you weren't discussing showing something, you were discussing the ease of
>>>>>>> showing something. And your something was something that doesn't need to be
>>>>>>> shown.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The original point was the ease at saving a receipt to a web receipts folder.
>>>>>> This can, of course, be done on Windows. Save it as a PDF, drag and drop (or
>>>>>> copy and paste). Or navigate in the save dialog. If you use it a lot you can
>>>>>> even add it as a favorite. It is not like this is a challenging task in
>>>>>> Windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The point was on macOS you can do those things, too, but there is an easier
>>>>>> method where I just "print" it to PDF and then use the PDF menu to put it
>>>>>> where I want. I can do this to preset folder (such as the web receipts) or to
>>>>>> ones I set up myself (such as my recipes folder). I can even have the PDF sent
>>>>>> to Mail or another app or sent to a script of my own design. Or one I find
>>>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> How the fuck is that easier? Why would you want to use "print" to save?
>>>>
>>>> It is odd to have the PDF functions in the Save dialog, though it makes sense
>>>> given how the system works in the background. But where else would you have
>>>> such a PDF menu... it uses all the same features.
>>>
>>> Why it would be odd to put it in the save dialog? You're saving a file.
>>
>> But you would not have the same options. For example, the Save dialog does not
>> let you select pages.
>
> Why would you be more likely to select pages in pdf than any other format?

Not sure what you mean by that. When you print you can choose to print some
range -- say pages 6 through 10. The PDF menu lets you do the same, with the
exact same settings.

>
>>>> And I showed you how it is easier... and then you waved your white flag. :)
>>>
>>> You can do the same nonsense in Windows.
>>
>> Nope. You can save it and then open it in another app or move it where you
>> want (or dig down in the Save dialog).
>
> This part is discussing PDF saving.

Correct. No need to dig. As you noted with copy / paste of files, there is
benefit to not having to navigate as much.

>
>>> But I hate PDFs and steer clear of them, and anything else made by Adobe.
>>>
>>>>>> This is one area where macOS offers tools to make things easier where Windows
>>>>>> does not. Does not mean macOS is better in all areas -- as we have talked
>>>>>> about, the new window management tools in Windows are ahead of the default
>>>>>> ones on macOS. In that case it is pretty easy to get third party tools to add
>>>>>> onto macOS, but the point remains that Windows default is "better" for many
>>>>>> folks.
>>>>>
>>>>> The defaults of curvy corners are not better.
>>>>
>>>> They do not really impact functionality in any way I can see.
>>>
>>> Well you're missing out on many pixels.
>>
>> Where does it impact functionality?
>
> Please become a human.

You have no answer... it does not impact functionality in any way you can
think of.

>
>>>>>>>> You just tossed in your white flag... but then wanted to be seen as having
>>>>>>>> "won". It really is that simple: you have your ego tied to Windows and will
>>>>>>>> not admit that macOS does something better.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, I just have better things to do than spend more time than writing a
>>>>>>> sentence in response to you. You might notice you often write a paragraph and
>>>>>>> I write once sentence back. You remind me of a certain woman....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Above I write a bit to go into detail... but with the whole PDF saving you
>>>>>> have spent a LOT more time making excuses than it took me to show you what I
>>>>>> was talking about. Still not even sure if you understand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://youtu.be/oNI6aFcuhY0
>>>>>
>>>>> Typical lefty. "You're confused, you don't understand."
>>>>
>>>> You show no sign of understanding. Same, really, with things like climate
>>>> change and Covid.
>>>
>>> I understand them perfectly, just like I understand god doesn't exist.
>>
>> You deny the evidence of climate change, Covid, etc.
>
> The evidence of climate change is made up to continue the government's
> embarrassing spending on it. It and covid are also causing worry warts like
> you to overreact.

See: you deny the evidence. I like to go with evidence, you often reject
evidence.

>
>>>> Then you play victim over it.
>>>
>>> I what?
>>
>> When it is noted you are not understanding you play victim.
>
> When have I "played victim"?

Above where you whined about it being noted when you failed to understand. You
blame others. Oh well.

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