On Apr 14, 2022 at 2:06:44 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t3a2d4$f1a$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 12:41:43 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <XN_5K.22667$F4h.20087@fx07.ams1>:
>>
>>> On 14/04/2022 20:06, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 12:01:22 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <6c_5K.40796$4c1.36038@fx13.ams1>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 14/04/2022 18:26, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 10:20:38 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <GJY5K.219272$Xa1.10315@fx10.ams1>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 14/04/2022 18:09, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 10:07:13 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>> <5xY5K.219270$Xa1.133467@fx10.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 14/04/2022 16:53, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 2:43:22 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>> <_0S5K.20977$F4h.10947@fx07.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 19:29, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2022 at 11:15:40 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> <glj5K.29795$ep1.5859@fx03.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 17:09, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2022 at 12:05:01 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <xw95K.392829$Lc1.296469@fx12.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 00:29, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 3:07:48 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <UE15K.57939$3b1.40537@fx14.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2022 21:58, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2022 20:38, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will you explain WHY you are reluctant to contact the developer about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this matter? It won't cost anything more than a few minutes of your time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you write it up and if he's OK with the wording, go from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there? You're asking for his time, use less of it and convey the words
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *you* want to convey <shrug>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a 'techie'. I've already rattled JD's cage sufficiently for him
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to refund the price I paid for his software. Logic tells me that an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> honest man would not do that. I suspect that the use of EtreCheck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enables JD to manipulate the ASC forum posts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sigh... it never ends.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm suggesting that YOU compose the email sent to JD, asking the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions YOU want answered and Glasser, if he agrees, will send it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have written directly to JD on many occasions previously.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly, he fails to respond, even when I write to try to help him, viz:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://ibb.co/mJXpm0c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you get no responses on that type of email it sounds like he has poor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I'm aware, he's a one-man-band. Do you see him on LinkedIn?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see only one person tied to EtreSoft there: Tess Pierce. I do not really use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn much, though, so maybe there are more I am missing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much for looking, Snit! 🙂
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This was news there, for me:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Board Member, Cultural & Creative App Development Board Member, Cultural
>>>>>>>>>>>>> & Creative App Development
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013 - Present · 9 yrs 4 mos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc. is software development and consulting corporation that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has been in business, in both the USA and Canada, since 1997. We have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> developed and shipped a number of consumer software tools for both
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Macintosh and Windows systems. Our products are used by major
>>>>>>>>>>>>> corporations, governments, educational institutions, and over half a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> million people. Read more about our products here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.etresoft.com/#products" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.etresoft.com/#products
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc. personnel have consulted with and worked for major
>>>>>>>>>>>>> government agencies, militaries, and educational institutions. Etresoft,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Inc.’s work has evolved from databases, to satellite command and control
>>>>>>>>>>>>> systems, to real-time simulators, to information science.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, so they do a lot more than make than one piece of software.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you look today, you will find that that information has been removed!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Even in the past seemed the page had missing content:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://web.archive.org/web/20060318024315/http://www.etresoft.com/products/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Odd.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We agree!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Something *IS* wrong with the whole Etresoft set-up. Maybe you can help
>>>>>>>>>>> me find out what if you can find the time. Perhaps Steve will help too.
>>>>>>>>>>> All I'm after is the truth and to stop 'bad guys' hurting others.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Seems they have a lousy website.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I took a screenshot. This information is plainly wrong:-
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://david-b.imgbb.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I do not see the screenshot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oops! Sorry! Try here:- https://ibb.co/RhqnSPX
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are curious you can see some of the history of that page:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20210501000000*/https://www.etresoft.com/#products
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really the same thing as
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20210501000000*/https://www.etresoft.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The key is:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.etresoft.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The # points to a place ON a page, not a different page. Odd to have the slash
>>>>>> in front of it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Company (Inc) wasn't formed until 2015!
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/scr/cc/CorporationsCanada/fdrlCrpDtls.html?corpId=9212671&V_TOKEN=null&crpNm=Etresoft%20Inc&crpNmbr=&bsNmbr=
>>>>>
>>>>> Tess lied in her LinkedIn personal (now removed)
>>>>
>>>> They have been around since at least 1999.
>>>>
>>>> https://web.archive.org/web/19991127213247/http://www.etresoft.com/
>>>>
>>>> Could be they changed names or something. Not sure what is even being looked
>>>> for here.
>>>
>>> Her LinkedIn information was incorrect. It has been removed since I
>>> spotted the 'error'. Did you spot that John Daniel was trading in Denver
>>> way-back? I wonder if he's a personal friend of Steve Carroll! :-D
>>
>> If that is the case THEN I would be more suspicious of wrong doing.
>>
>>>
>>> Etresoft is currently located in a cozy little post office box. The
>>> address is:
>>>
>>> Etresoft
>>> P.O. Box 202401
>>> Denver, CO 80220-8401
>>> USA
>>
>> Maybe it is Carroll. :)
>
> Objective C?! Not me.
>
>
> For DB:
>
> property chosenColors : {}
>
> set fileName to "color-selection-session"
> set colorFile to (((path to desktop folder) as string) & fileName & ".txt")
> set startingColor to choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535}
>
> repeat with colorItem in startingColor
> set colorItem to round colorItem / 256
> copy colorItem to end of chosenColors
> end repeat
> set the clipboard to "(" & item 1 of chosenColors & "," & item 2 of
> chosenColors & "," & item 3 of chosenColors & ")"
>
> on seeColors(chosenColors)
> copy "-" to end of chosenColors
> return chosenColors
> end seeColors
>
> on saveColorsToFile(theColors, colorFile, overwriteExistingContent)
> try
> set colorFile to colorFile as string
> set openColorFile to open for access file colorFile with write
> permission
> if overwriteExistingContent is true then set eof of openColorFile to 0
> write theColors to openColorFile starting at eof
> close access openColorFile
> return true
> on error
> try
> close access file colorFile
> display notification "Your colors were not saved! Ask your 'friend'
> for help."
> end try
> return false
> end try
> end saveColorsToFile
>
> on colorSelectionSession(fileName, colorFile)
> saveColorsToFile(seeColors(chosenColors) as text, colorFile, true)
> end colorSelectionSession
>
> colorSelectionSession(fileName, colorFile)

On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2022 at 2:03:23 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
><t3a26r$f1a$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>>>>
>>>> Why, of course he gave up drinking.
>>>
>>> Based on what we know: correct.
>>
>> Define what "we" "know", as opposed to what DB told 'us'.
>
> I do not do as you do and stalk people. We know of his life what he has
> shared

So, AGAIN, ya go nothin'. OK.

(snip Glasser doing what he just falsely claims he doesn't do)

On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

(snip)

> Your games continue.

Color picking as a game... "Hmmm..."

Maybe DB will figure out what to do with this "game", I've added a new
function that he may ask you about:

property chosenColors : {}

set fileName to "color-selection-session"
set colorFile to (((path to desktop folder) as string) & fileName & ".txt")
set startingColor to choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535}

repeat with colorItem in startingColor
set colorItem to round colorItem / 256
copy colorItem to end of chosenColors
end repeat

on seeColors(chosenColors)
copy "-" to end of chosenColors
return chosenColors
end seeColors

on saveColorsToFile(theColors, colorFile, overwriteExistingContent)
try
set colorFile to colorFile as string
set openColorFile to open for access file colorFile with write permission
if overwriteExistingContent is true then set eof of openColorFile to 0
write theColors to openColorFile starting at eof
close access openColorFile
return true
on error
try
close access file colorFile
display notification "Your colors were not saved! Ask your 'friend' for help."
end try
return false
end try
end saveColorsToFile

on colorSelectionSession(fileName, colorFile)
saveColorsToFile(seeColors(chosenColors) as text, colorFile, true)
end colorSelectionSession

on getColors(colorSelectionsFile)
return read file colorSelectionsFile -- Get your 'friend' to format the values in the file and return them
end getColors

colorSelectionSession(fileName, colorFile)
getColors(colorFile)

On 14/04/2022 21:35, Snit wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2022 at 1:33:22 PM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
> <311h5hporqcct6ukcl0ugbff46ph29sgec@4ax.com>:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 15:19:47 -0000 (UTC), Steve Carroll
>> <"SteveCarroll"@noSPAM.none> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-04-14, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>>>> OK, so they do a lot more than make than one piece of software.
>>>>
>>>> If you look today, you will find that that information has been removed!
>>>>
>>>> Something *IS* wrong with the whole Etresoft set-up. Maybe you can help
>>>> me find out what if you can find the time. Perhaps Steve will help too.
>>>> All I'm after is the truth and to stop 'bad guys' hurting others.
>>>
>>> Why would I help you stalk an innocent person? Are you so self focused
>>> and wrapped up in your goofy bullsh*t it makes sense to you that someone
>>> you view as your enemy would help you? If you're trying to convince
>>> people you gave up drinking, this isn't the way.
>>
>> Why, of course he gave up drinking.
>
> Based on what we know: correct.

Yes. Correct. 21 March 2018. :-D

On Apr 14, 2022 at 3:00:40 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t3a5i8$cgq$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> (snip)
>
>> Your games continue.
>
> Color picking as a game... "Hmmm..."

And here you are trying to pull me into your nonsense. I have my color picker
app. Already showed the full code.

https://jmp.sh/v1S510z

It does what I want and it does it well. No need for your drama, nor your
comparisons, nor your bragging. I did not ask you to review the code nor ask
you for suggestions on improvement.

>

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Apr 14, 2022 at 2:08:35 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t3a2gj$f1a$4@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 2:03:23 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>> <t3a26r$f1a$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why, of course he gave up drinking.
>>>>
>>>> Based on what we know: correct.
>>>
>>> Define what "we" "know", as opposed to what DB told 'us'.
>>
>> I do not do as you do and stalk people. We know of his life what he has
>> shared, just as we know you focus on substance abuse issues based on what you
>> share. There is FAR more evidence of you having substance abuse issues than
>> there is of him currently having there same. Remember what Ryan Sullivan said
>> of you:

>> Ryan Sullivan <sf4adq$f7v$1@gioia.aioe.org>:
>> -----
>> My father is jealous of my success in being sober since Nov 2
>> 2018. He has not been able to stop that addiction nor his
>> addiction to the guy who goes by Snit in these groups.

>> I have no shame in being sober and am proud of how far I have
>> gotten considering the influences I had growing up. Does not stop
>> him from bringing it up to Adriana any time he sees her as he
>> tries to break us up.

>> I do not know who you are Snit, but my father is not a mentally
>> well man. He talks about you all the time. You are right that he
>> is wasting his life on whatever petty battle he has with you.
>> -----

>> Ryan Sullivan <sf4b12$l3u$1@gioia.aioe.org>
>> -----
>> My father has shown me this bot running. It is his. He speaks of
>> using it to prove to Snit he can make a better bot.
>> -----

>> Ryan Sullivan <sf4b2v$l3u$2@gioia.aioe.org>
>> -----
>> Is this about that Prescott site you talk about and ask us if your
>> work is better?
>> -----
>>
>> Ryan Sullivan <sf6j6k$4fn$1@gioia.aioe.org>:
>> -----
>> Why could you not spend as much time focused on me and Steve as
>> you do on this guy online?
>> -----
>>
>> Ryan Sullivan <sf6j6v$4fn$2@gioia.aioe.org>:
>> -----
>> You played a few gigs and grifted as you got your kids to drink.
>> You're a piece of shit father.
>> -----

>> Ryan Sullivan <XnsADB0B5EAF75DA443322@46.165.242.75>
>> -----
>> Unfortunately my father who posts here as Steve Carroll is a
>> mentally ill person.

>> He abuses alcohol and drugs as well and is a controil freak
>> maniac.

>> My mom left him years ago due to his substance abuse.

>> So my dad has been stalking snit Michael Glasser for years. I do
>> not know why but it is a major part of his life. My advice is to
>> ignore Steve Carroll and his many nyms.
>> -----
>
> So, AGAIN, ya go nothin'. OK.

I have no desire to play your game. Cry all you want.

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2022 at 3:00:40 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
><t3a5i8$cgq$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>>> Your games continue.
>>
>> Color picking as a game... "Hmmm..."
>
> And here you are

<blush> Thanks for the introduction, Snit! So... we can start the show:

<https://youtube.com/shorts/FwXQDBooK7U?feature=share>

I might be taking a liberty calling it his favorite game... but maybe
not... ya never know!

(I knew you'd never do and I knew, secretly, you wanted me to show you)

On Apr 14, 2022 at 3:51:25 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t3a8hd$ue7$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 3:00:40 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>> <t3a5i8$cgq$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>
>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>>> Your games continue.
>>>
>>> Color picking as a game... "Hmmm..."
>>
>> And here you are trying to pull me into your nonsense. I have my color picker
>> app. Already showed the full code.

>> https://jmp.sh/v1S510z

>> It does what I want and it does it well. No need for your drama, nor your
>> comparisons, nor your bragging. I did not ask you to review the code nor ask
>> you for suggestions on improvement.
>
>
> <blush> Thanks for the introduction, Snit! So... we can start the show:

Your show started years ago. Not interested.

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Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2022 at 3:51:25 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
><t3a8hd$ue7$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 3:00:40 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>> <t3a5i8$cgq$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> (snip)
>>>>
>>>>> Your games continue.
>>>>
>>>> Color picking as a game... "Hmmm..."
>>>
>>> And here you are trying to pull me into your nonsense. I have my color picker
>>> app. Already showed the full code.
>
>>> https://jmp.sh/v1S510z
>
>>> It does what I want and it does it well. No need for your drama, nor your
>>> comparisons, nor your bragging. I did not ask you to review the code nor ask
>>> you for suggestions on improvement.
>>
>>
>> <blush> Thanks for the introduction, Snit! So... we can start the show:
>
> Your show started years ago. Not interested.

Well, it was for DB. His doctors called with good news, no brain tumor!
In fact, they couldn't even find his brain so he lucked out. But they
were worried about his memory so they requested a game to test it. He
picks 10 colors and tries to recall what he picked, if his power goes
off the picks are stored in the file. This app efficiently writes to,
then read from and formats the output to the log (none of that slow
assed 'notifications' crap for DB). His docs added one odd stipulation,
that his 'friend' be able to use the code so it had to be
"English-like". I asked about JS but they said 'NO WAY!', it had to be
AS. I guess they've heard of you.

On Apr 14, 2022 at 3:06:40 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<WV06K.219279$Xa1.25285@fx10.ams1>:

> On 14/04/2022 21:35, Snit wrote:
>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 1:33:22 PM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
>> <311h5hporqcct6ukcl0ugbff46ph29sgec@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 15:19:47 -0000 (UTC), Steve Carroll
>>> <"SteveCarroll"@noSPAM.none> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-04-14, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> (snip)
>>>>
>>>>>> OK, so they do a lot more than make than one piece of software.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you look today, you will find that that information has been removed!
>>>>>
>>>>> Something *IS* wrong with the whole Etresoft set-up. Maybe you can help
>>>>> me find out what if you can find the time. Perhaps Steve will help too.
>>>>> All I'm after is the truth and to stop 'bad guys' hurting others.
>>>>
>>>> Why would I help you stalk an innocent person? Are you so self focused
>>>> and wrapped up in your goofy bullsh*t it makes sense to you that someone
>>>> you view as your enemy would help you? If you're trying to convince
>>>> people you gave up drinking, this isn't the way.
>>>
>>> Why, of course he gave up drinking.
>>
>> Based on what we know: correct.
>
> Yes. Correct. 21 March 2018. :-D

The question is why would some want to pretend otherwise? They are changing
the topic to personal attacks, trying to put you on the defensive. What does
this say about them and whatever topic they are running from? Do you think
they are aware of this?

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Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Apr 14, 2022 at 4:07:05 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t3a9ep$ue7$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 3:51:25 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>> <t3a8hd$ue7$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>
>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 3:00:40 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>>> <t3a5i8$cgq$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>
>>>>>> Your games continue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Color picking as a game... "Hmmm..."
>>>>
>>>> And here you are trying to pull me into your nonsense. I have my color picker
>>>> app. Already showed the full code.
>>
>>>> https://jmp.sh/v1S510z
>>
>>>> It does what I want and it does it well. No need for your drama, nor your
>>>> comparisons, nor your bragging. I did not ask you to review the code nor ask
>>>> you for suggestions on improvement.
>>>
>>>
>>> <blush> Thanks for the introduction, Snit! So... we can start the show:
>>
>> Your show started years ago. Not interested.
>
> Well, it was for DB.

No. Your show is for you. You want attention and drama. If you do not get it
from me you seek out others, such as David or -hh or whomever else you think
will jump in to play your games.

Look at your drama nonsense below. You seriously are addicted.

> His doctors called with good news, no brain tumor!
> In fact, they couldn't even find his brain so he lucked out. But they
> were worried about his memory so they requested a game to test it. He
> picks 10 colors and tries to recall what he picked, if his power goes
> off the picks are stored in the file. This app efficiently writes to,
> then read from and formats the output to the log (none of that slow
> assed 'notifications' crap for DB). His docs added one odd stipulation,
> that his 'friend' be able to use the code so it had to be
> "English-like". I asked about JS but they said 'NO WAY!', it had to be
> AS. I guess they've heard of you.

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 20:41:43 +0100, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>Did you spot that John Daniel was trading in Denver
>way-back? I wonder if he's a personal friend of Steve Carroll! :-D

Almost certainly. The village of Denver only has about a dozen people
living there, so everyone knows everyone.

Doofus.

On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 23:06:40 +0100, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>On 14/04/2022 21:35, Snit wrote:
>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 1:33:22 PM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
>> <311h5hporqcct6ukcl0ugbff46ph29sgec@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 15:19:47 -0000 (UTC), Steve Carroll
>>> <"SteveCarroll"@noSPAM.none> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-04-14, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> (snip)
>>>>
>>>>>> OK, so they do a lot more than make than one piece of software.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you look today, you will find that that information has been removed!
>>>>>
>>>>> Something *IS* wrong with the whole Etresoft set-up. Maybe you can help
>>>>> me find out what if you can find the time. Perhaps Steve will help too.
>>>>> All I'm after is the truth and to stop 'bad guys' hurting others.
>>>>
>>>> Why would I help you stalk an innocent person? Are you so self focused
>>>> and wrapped up in your goofy bullsh*t it makes sense to you that someone
>>>> you view as your enemy would help you? If you're trying to convince
>>>> people you gave up drinking, this isn't the way.
>>>
>>> Why, of course he gave up drinking.
>>
>> Based on what we know: correct.
>
>Yes. Correct. 21 March 2018. :-D

It's possible that approximately one person believes you.

On Apr 14, 2022 at 7:23:31 PM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
<hmlh5hh24qr1mfqnqh4mrg2mpfj995pmhn@4ax.com>:

> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 20:41:43 +0100, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Did you spot that John Daniel was trading in Denver
>> way-back? I wonder if he's a personal friend of Steve Carroll! :-D
>
> Almost certainly. The village of Denver only has about a dozen people
> living there, so everyone knows everyone.

Try again (hint, closer to 700,000).

>
> Doofus.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Apr 14, 2022 at 8:41:53 PM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
<3bqh5hh9vmb1soue5hf0k6m4a1brd6tove@4ax.com>:

> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 23:06:40 +0100, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 14/04/2022 21:35, Snit wrote:
>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 1:33:22 PM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
>>> <311h5hporqcct6ukcl0ugbff46ph29sgec@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 15:19:47 -0000 (UTC), Steve Carroll
>>>> <"SteveCarroll"@noSPAM.none> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2022-04-14, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, so they do a lot more than make than one piece of software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you look today, you will find that that information has been removed!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something *IS* wrong with the whole Etresoft set-up. Maybe you can help
>>>>>> me find out what if you can find the time. Perhaps Steve will help too.
>>>>>> All I'm after is the truth and to stop 'bad guys' hurting others.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why would I help you stalk an innocent person? Are you so self focused
>>>>> and wrapped up in your goofy bullsh*t it makes sense to you that someone
>>>>> you view as your enemy would help you? If you're trying to convince
>>>>> people you gave up drinking, this isn't the way.
>>>>
>>>> Why, of course he gave up drinking.
>>>
>>> Based on what we know: correct.
>>
>> Yes. Correct. 21 March 2018. :-D
>
> It's possible that approximately one person believes you.

What you believe is not the question. We have no evidence otherwise.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 2022-04-14 8:53 p.m., Snit wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2022 at 8:41:53 PM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
> <3bqh5hh9vmb1soue5hf0k6m4a1brd6tove@4ax.com>:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 23:06:40 +0100, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 14/04/2022 21:35, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 1:33:22 PM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
>>>> <311h5hporqcct6ukcl0ugbff46ph29sgec@4ax.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 15:19:47 -0000 (UTC), Steve Carroll
>>>>> <"SteveCarroll"@noSPAM.none> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-04-14, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK, so they do a lot more than make than one piece of software.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you look today, you will find that that information has been removed!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Something *IS* wrong with the whole Etresoft set-up. Maybe you can help
>>>>>>> me find out what if you can find the time. Perhaps Steve will help too.
>>>>>>> All I'm after is the truth and to stop 'bad guys' hurting others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why would I help you stalk an innocent person? Are you so self focused
>>>>>> and wrapped up in your goofy bullsh*t it makes sense to you that someone
>>>>>> you view as your enemy would help you? If you're trying to convince
>>>>>> people you gave up drinking, this isn't the way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why, of course he gave up drinking.
>>>>
>>>> Based on what we know: correct.
>>>
>>> Yes. Correct. 21 March 2018. :-D
>>
>> It's possible that approximately one person believes you.
>
> What you believe is not the question. We have no evidence otherwise.
>
i wonder if i should believe that

On Apr 14, 2022 at 9:28:56 PM MST, "%" wrote
<cLadnecsjrcaacX_nZ2dnUU7-NmdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

> On 2022-04-14 8:53 p.m., Snit wrote:
>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 8:41:53 PM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
>> <3bqh5hh9vmb1soue5hf0k6m4a1brd6tove@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 23:06:40 +0100, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 14/04/2022 21:35, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 1:33:22 PM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
>>>>> <311h5hporqcct6ukcl0ugbff46ph29sgec@4ax.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 15:19:47 -0000 (UTC), Steve Carroll
>>>>>> <"SteveCarroll"@noSPAM.none> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2022-04-14, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK, so they do a lot more than make than one piece of software.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you look today, you will find that that information has been removed!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Something *IS* wrong with the whole Etresoft set-up. Maybe you can help
>>>>>>>> me find out what if you can find the time. Perhaps Steve will help too.
>>>>>>>> All I'm after is the truth and to stop 'bad guys' hurting others.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why would I help you stalk an innocent person? Are you so self focused
>>>>>>> and wrapped up in your goofy bullsh*t it makes sense to you that someone
>>>>>>> you view as your enemy would help you? If you're trying to convince
>>>>>>> people you gave up drinking, this isn't the way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why, of course he gave up drinking.
>>>>>
>>>>> Based on what we know: correct.
>>>>
>>>> Yes. Correct. 21 March 2018. :-D
>>>
>>> It's possible that approximately one person believes you.
>>
>> What you believe is not the question. We have no evidence otherwise.
>>
> i wonder if i should believe that

Look up the research.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 15/04/2022 00:07, Snit wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2022 at 3:06:40 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <WV06K.219279$Xa1.25285@fx10.ams1>:
>
>> On 14/04/2022 21:35, Snit wrote:
>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 1:33:22 PM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
>>> <311h5hporqcct6ukcl0ugbff46ph29sgec@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 15:19:47 -0000 (UTC), Steve Carroll
>>>> <"SteveCarroll"@noSPAM.none> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2022-04-14, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, so they do a lot more than make than one piece of software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you look today, you will find that that information has been removed!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something *IS* wrong with the whole Etresoft set-up. Maybe you can help
>>>>>> me find out what if you can find the time. Perhaps Steve will help too.
>>>>>> All I'm after is the truth and to stop 'bad guys' hurting others.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why would I help you stalk an innocent person? Are you so self focused
>>>>> and wrapped up in your goofy bullsh*t it makes sense to you that someone
>>>>> you view as your enemy would help you? If you're trying to convince
>>>>> people you gave up drinking, this isn't the way.
>>>>
>>>> Why, of course he gave up drinking.
>>>
>>> Based on what we know: correct.
>>
>> Yes. Correct. 21 March 2018. :-D
>
> The question is why would some want to pretend otherwise? They are changing
> the topic to personal attacks, trying to put you on the defensive. What does
> this say about them and whatever topic they are running from? Do you think
> they are aware of this?

I think 'they' find it difficult to deal with someone like me - someone
who invariably tells the truth! :-D

On 15/04/2022 00:08, Snit wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2022 at 4:07:05 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
> <t3a9ep$ue7$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 3:51:25 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>> <t3a8hd$ue7$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 3:00:40 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>>>> <t3a5i8$cgq$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your games continue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Color picking as a game... "Hmmm..."
>>>>>
>>>>> And here you are trying to pull me into your nonsense. I have my color picker
>>>>> app. Already showed the full code.
>>>
>>>>> https://jmp.sh/v1S510z
>>>
>>>>> It does what I want and it does it well. No need for your drama, nor your
>>>>> comparisons, nor your bragging. I did not ask you to review the code nor ask
>>>>> you for suggestions on improvement.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <blush> Thanks for the introduction, Snit! So... we can start the show:
>>>
>>> Your show started years ago. Not interested.
>>
>> Well, it was for DB.
>
> No. Your show is for you. You want attention and drama. If you do not get it
> from me you seek out others, such as David or -hh or whomever else you think
> will jump in to play your games.
>
> Look at your drama nonsense below. You seriously are addicted.

Not only that, he lied.

I contacted the NHS yesterday - a week after my MRI scan - to ask when I
would get the result.

Not only that, I have /never/ used Script Editor. Do you have a video
showing how to use it?

>> His doctors called with good news, no brain tumor!
>> In fact, they couldn't even find his brain so he lucked out. But they
>> were worried about his memory so they requested a game to test it. He
>> picks 10 colors and tries to recall what he picked, if his power goes
>> off the picks are stored in the file. This app efficiently writes to,
>> then read from and formats the output to the log (none of that slow
>> assed 'notifications' crap for DB). His docs added one odd stipulation,
>> that his 'friend' be able to use the code so it had to be
>> "English-like". I asked about JS but they said 'NO WAY!', it had to be
>> AS. I guess they've heard of you.

On 15/04/2022 04:53, Snit wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2022 at 7:23:31 PM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
> <hmlh5hh24qr1mfqnqh4mrg2mpfj995pmhn@4ax.com>:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 20:41:43 +0100, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Did you spot that John Daniel was trading in Denver
>>> way-back? I wonder if he's a personal friend of Steve Carroll! :-D
>>
>> Almost certainly. The village of Denver only has about a dozen people
>> living there, so everyone knows everyone.
>
> Try again (hint, closer to 700,000).

As you know, I've been there! :-)

On 12/04/2022 17:27, Kelly Phillips wrote:
> remotely disable your computer, permanently, for example.

Is that actually possible?

On 15/04/2022 04:41, Kelly Phillips wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 23:06:40 +0100, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 14/04/2022 21:35, Snit wrote:
>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 1:33:22 PM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
>>> <311h5hporqcct6ukcl0ugbff46ph29sgec@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 15:19:47 -0000 (UTC), Steve Carroll
>>>> <"SteveCarroll"@noSPAM.none> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2022-04-14, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, so they do a lot more than make than one piece of software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you look today, you will find that that information has been removed!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something *IS* wrong with the whole Etresoft set-up. Maybe you can help
>>>>>> me find out what if you can find the time. Perhaps Steve will help too.
>>>>>> All I'm after is the truth and to stop 'bad guys' hurting others.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why would I help you stalk an innocent person? Are you so self focused
>>>>> and wrapped up in your goofy bullsh*t it makes sense to you that someone
>>>>> you view as your enemy would help you? If you're trying to convince
>>>>> people you gave up drinking, this isn't the way.
>>>>
>>>> Why, of course he gave up drinking.
>>>
>>> Based on what we know: correct.
>>
>> Yes. Correct. 21 March 2018. :-D
>
> It's possible that approximately one person believes you.

How did you become so misguided?

On 12/04/2022 20:32, Snit wrote:
> On Apr 12, 2022 at 11:53:57 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <aVj5K.133967$Mih.102057@fx05.ams1>:
>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not without reason.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The reason is simply to clarify /why/ such files are left behind after
>>>>>>>> the product has supposedly been removed from a computer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is the way macOS works. The standard uninstall method is to just drag the
>>>>>>> file from the Applications folder. Some small files that are saved elsewhere
>>>>>>> are not removed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You haven't been paying attention my friend! EtreCheck is not an proper
>>>>>> 'application' and is NOT installed!
>>>>
>>>> Mike Easter claimed that the software was NOT installed per se.
>>>
>>> It does not have an installer, but it is still added to the computer and ready
>>> to be used.
>>
>> That's what I understood. I wonder why Mike thinks otherwise.
>
> It might be one of those things like when people speak of Macs and PCs, but in
> other context Macs *are* PCs, just different than Windows PCs.
>
>>>>> Not sure what you mean by a "proper" application. As far as installation -- it
>>>>> installs the way many macOS apps do, though drag and drop. Some also get
>>>>> installed from the store or from an installer (though these are fairly rare).
>>>>> Do you mean it is not available in the App store?
>>>>
>>>> What you say is sounding very muddled. :-(
>>>
>>> To add most apps to macOS you merely drag and drop them into the Applications
>>> folder (or, really, elsewhere on the hard drive, though the Applications
>>> folder is the recommended place). When you first run the application it does
>>> some things in the background, including putting files elsewhere in the
>>> User/Library folder (and sometimes elsewhere, though to do that it needs to be
>>> given special permissions).
>>
>> Did YOU drag EtreCheck into Applications before you ran it?
>>
>> Did YOU grant it Full Drive Access?
>
> Yes.
>
>>> Another common way is to use the Apple store, which does a few other things in
>>> the background. And then there are applications, such as the ones from Adobe,
>>> which walk you though an installer and often have an uninstaller.
>>
>> Yes. I am familiar with those.
>>
>>> Each type of installing, though, leads to files being added to your Library
>>> folder and uninstalling them does not generally remove all files associated
>>> with the application.
>>
>> So far, with the AppCleaner facility which you introduced me to, I
>> appear to have been quite successful! Thanks once again for that! :-D
>
> My pleasure.
>
>>
>>>>>> Will you explain WHY you are reluctant to contact the developer about
>>>>>> this matter? It won't cost anything more than a few minutes of your time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure what I would even be asking. His app has files that get left behind
>>>>> -- as do other apps. Is there a reason to be concerned with this?
>>>>
>>>> If you can find a few minutes spare, please review the post by
>>>> 'etresoft' (JD) here:-
>>>>
>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8488115
>>>
>>> The link is dead and it does not seem to be at least an actively used
>>> subdomain. Not sure what you are looking for with that.
>>
>> *WHAT*? It's certainly active for me - it opens up the thread!
>
> Sorry, I meant the link discussed there: https://idmsa.apple.com/
>
> Should have been more clear.
>>
>> https://www.virustotal.com/gui/url/4f48b72f67b8b92714d303273ea2edfdbb8f16236ca6111b15ab216064e4baea/details
>>
>> Status 422 https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Status/422
>>
>> Ah! BUT ...... https://ibb.co/WW91HcH
>>
>> SOMETHING is amiss!
>>
>>>> I'm wondering WHY my posting persona, HunterBD, was banned from the ASC
>>>> forums. Have you any idea? Could you find out? Is it reversible?
>>>
>>> You tend to ask about non-Apple products and then suggest that they are
>>> somehow doing something wrong. In this case you seem focused on the idea that
>>> the common fact that applications leave files is bad, but only for EtreCheck.
>>> I do not see you applying that to other applications.
>>
>> It's good to have you give me your opinion, Snit! :-D THANK YOU! :-)
>
> Here is another way to look at it. Re-install EtreCheck, put in the
> Applications folder, and launch it. You can then quit it and drag it to
> AppCleaner. Do not delete it... at least yet.
>
> Look at each of the files it finds. Notice on the far right there is a
> magnifying (find) icon. Click it for each file. Notice how many other
> applications are saving data in the same folders.
>
> For example, with the Caches folder, I have over 100 items in that folder,
> each tied to a different application. This is true of every one of the files
> it shows (that info is saved for many apps).
>
> These files are generally tied to how macOS works.
>
> I do not have any concern with EtreCheck having files in those common areas.

Thank you for helping.

I have done as you suggested. I'm not so sure I discovered anything
untoward, but I've asked Apd to look at just two items today (Fri 15th)
Message-ID: <2pc6K.552509$sb1.457502@fx11.ams1>

If you can ever find the time, please examine the files yourself.

The number of files seem to change!

On 15/04/2022 12:16, David Brooks wrote:
> On 12/04/2022 20:32, Snit wrote:
>> On Apr 12, 2022 at 11:53:57 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <aVj5K.133967$Mih.102057@fx05.ams1>:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not without reason.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The reason is simply to clarify /why/ such files are left
>>>>>>>>> behind after
>>>>>>>>> the product has supposedly been removed from a computer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is the way macOS works. The standard uninstall method is to
>>>>>>>> just drag the
>>>>>>>> file from the Applications folder. Some small files that are
>>>>>>>> saved elsewhere
>>>>>>>> are not removed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You haven't been paying attention my friend! EtreCheck is not an
>>>>>>> proper
>>>>>>> 'application' and is NOT installed!
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Easter claimed that the software was NOT installed per se.
>>>>
>>>> It does not have an installer, but it is still added to the computer
>>>> and ready
>>>> to be used.
>>>
>>> That's what I understood. I wonder why Mike thinks otherwise.
>>
>> It might be one of those things like when people speak of Macs and
>> PCs, but in
>> other context Macs *are* PCs, just different than Windows PCs.
>>
>>>>>> Not sure what you mean by a "proper" application. As far as
>>>>>> installation -- it
>>>>>> installs the way many macOS apps do, though drag and drop. Some
>>>>>> also get
>>>>>> installed from the store or from an installer (though these are
>>>>>> fairly rare).
>>>>>> Do you mean it is not available in the App store?
>>>>>
>>>>> What you say is sounding very muddled. :-(
>>>>
>>>> To add most apps to macOS you merely drag and drop them into the
>>>> Applications
>>>> folder (or, really, elsewhere on the hard drive, though the
>>>> Applications
>>>> folder is the recommended place). When you first run the application
>>>> it does
>>>> some things in the background, including putting files elsewhere in the
>>>> User/Library folder (and sometimes elsewhere, though to do that it
>>>> needs to be
>>>> given special permissions).
>>>
>>> Did YOU drag EtreCheck into Applications before you ran it?
>>>
>>> Did YOU grant it Full Drive Access?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>>> Another common way is to use the Apple store, which does a few other
>>>> things in
>>>> the background. And then there are applications, such as the ones
>>>> from Adobe,
>>>> which walk you though an installer and often have an uninstaller.
>>>
>>> Yes. I am familiar with those.
>>>
>>>> Each type of installing, though, leads to files being added to your
>>>> Library
>>>> folder and uninstalling them does not generally remove all files
>>>> associated
>>>> with the application.
>>>
>>> So far, with the AppCleaner facility which you introduced me to, I
>>> appear to have been quite successful! Thanks once again for that! :-D
>>
>> My pleasure.
>>
>>>
>>>>>>> Will you explain WHY you are reluctant to contact the developer
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> this matter? It won't cost anything more than a few minutes of
>>>>>>> your time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure what I would even be asking. His app has files that get
>>>>>> left behind
>>>>>> -- as do other apps. Is there a reason to be concerned with this?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you can find a few minutes spare, please review the post by
>>>>> 'etresoft' (JD) here:-
>>>>>
>>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8488115
>>>>
>>>> The link is dead and it does not seem to be at least an actively used
>>>> subdomain. Not sure what you are looking for with that.
>>>
>>> *WHAT*? It's certainly active for me - it opens up the thread!
>>
>> Sorry, I meant the link discussed there: https://idmsa.apple.com/
>>
>> Should have been more clear.
>>>
>>> https://www.virustotal.com/gui/url/4f48b72f67b8b92714d303273ea2edfdbb8f16236ca6111b15ab216064e4baea/details
>>>
>>>
>>> Status 422  https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Status/422
>>>
>>> Ah! BUT ...... https://ibb.co/WW91HcH
>>>
>>> SOMETHING is amiss!
>>>
>>>>> I'm wondering WHY my posting persona, HunterBD, was banned from the
>>>>> ASC
>>>>> forums. Have you any idea? Could you find out? Is it reversible?
>>>>
>>>> You tend to ask about non-Apple products and then suggest that they are
>>>> somehow doing something wrong. In this case you seem focused on the
>>>> idea that
>>>> the common fact that applications leave files is bad, but only for
>>>> EtreCheck.
>>>> I do not see you applying that to other applications.
>>>
>>> It's good to have you give me your opinion, Snit! :-D  THANK YOU! :-)
>>
>> Here is another way to look at it. Re-install EtreCheck, put in the
>> Applications folder, and launch it. You can then quit it and drag it to
>> AppCleaner. Do not delete it... at least yet.
>>
>> Look at each of the files it finds. Notice on the far right there is a
>> magnifying (find) icon. Click it for each file. Notice how many other
>> applications are saving data in the same folders.
>>
>> For example, with the Caches folder, I have over 100 items in that
>> folder,
>> each tied to a different application. This is true of every one of the
>> files
>> it shows (that info is saved for many apps).
>>
>> These files are generally tied to how macOS works.
>>
>> I do not have any concern with EtreCheck having files in those common
>> areas.
>
> Thank you for helping.
>
> I have done as you suggested. I'm not so sure I discovered anything
> untoward, but I've asked Apd to look at just two items today (Fri 15th)
> Message-ID: <2pc6K.552509$sb1.457502@fx11.ams1>
>
> If you can ever find the time, please examine the files yourself.
>
> The number of files seem to change!

Now: https://imgur.com/gallery/rgsiVQg

On 2022-04-15, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2022 at 8:41:53 PM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
><3bqh5hh9vmb1soue5hf0k6m4a1brd6tove@4ax.com>:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 23:06:40 +0100, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 14/04/2022 21:35, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 1:33:22 PM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
>>>> <311h5hporqcct6ukcl0ugbff46ph29sgec@4ax.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 15:19:47 -0000 (UTC), Steve Carroll
>>>>> <"SteveCarroll"@noSPAM.none> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-04-14, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK, so they do a lot more than make than one piece of software.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you look today, you will find that that information has been removed!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Something *IS* wrong with the whole Etresoft set-up. Maybe you can help
>>>>>>> me find out what if you can find the time. Perhaps Steve will help too.
>>>>>>> All I'm after is the truth and to stop 'bad guys' hurting others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why would I help you stalk an innocent person? Are you so self focused
>>>>>> and wrapped up in your goofy bullsh*t it makes sense to you that someone
>>>>>> you view as your enemy would help you? If you're trying to convince
>>>>>> people you gave up drinking, this isn't the way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why, of course he gave up drinking.
>>>>
>>>> Based on what we know: correct.
>>>
>>> Yes. Correct. 21 March 2018. :-D
>>
>> It's possible that approximately one person believes you.
>
> What you believe is not the question. We have no evidence otherwise.

Where has evidence been presented either way other than his say so?
You've claimed you no longer use those "heinous meds", does that make it
an established fact? How many of them do you mix/take for that to
happen in your mind?

"I had the physical sensation that my left eye was being sucked into my
head. I remember playing a game of Scrabble with a friend; while he was
thinking I would run to the bathroom to look to see if my eye really had
been sucked in. Very frightening and just plain weird."

That's not normal. You that, right? What did your bear say about it?