On Apr 14, 2022 at 10:30:54 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t39loe$dt9$14@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 10:20:38 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <GJY5K.219272$Xa1.10315@fx10.ams1>:
>>
>>> On 14/04/2022 18:09, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 10:07:13 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <5xY5K.219270$Xa1.133467@fx10.ams1>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 14/04/2022 16:53, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 2:43:22 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <_0S5K.20977$F4h.10947@fx07.ams1>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 19:29, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2022 at 11:15:40 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>> <glj5K.29795$ep1.5859@fx03.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 17:09, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2022 at 12:05:01 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>> <xw95K.392829$Lc1.296469@fx12.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 00:29, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 3:07:48 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> <UE15K.57939$3b1.40537@fx14.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2022 21:58, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2022 20:38, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will you explain WHY you are reluctant to contact the developer about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this matter? It won't cost anything more than a few minutes of your time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you write it up and if he's OK with the wording, go from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there? You're asking for his time, use less of it and convey the words
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *you* want to convey <shrug>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a 'techie'. I've already rattled JD's cage sufficiently for him
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to refund the price I paid for his software. Logic tells me that an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> honest man would not do that. I suspect that the use of EtreCheck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enables JD to manipulate the ASC forum posts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sigh... it never ends.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm suggesting that YOU compose the email sent to JD, asking the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions YOU want answered and Glasser, if he agrees, will send it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have written directly to JD on many occasions previously.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly, he fails to respond, even when I write to try to help him, viz:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://ibb.co/mJXpm0c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you get no responses on that type of email it sounds like he has poor
>>>>>>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I'm aware, he's a one-man-band. Do you see him on LinkedIn?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I see only one person tied to EtreSoft there: Tess Pierce. I do not really use
>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn much, though, so maybe there are more I am missing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much for looking, Snit! 🙂
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This was news there, for me:-
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Board Member, Cultural & Creative App Development Board Member, Cultural
>>>>>>>>> & Creative App Development
>>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc
>>>>>>>>> 2013 - Present · 9 yrs 4 mos
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc. is software development and consulting corporation that
>>>>>>>>> has been in business, in both the USA and Canada, since 1997. We have
>>>>>>>>> developed and shipped a number of consumer software tools for both
>>>>>>>>> Macintosh and Windows systems. Our products are used by major
>>>>>>>>> corporations, governments, educational institutions, and over half a
>>>>>>>>> million people. Read more about our products here:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.etresoft.com/#products
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc. personnel have consulted with and worked for major
>>>>>>>>> government agencies, militaries, and educational institutions. Etresoft,
>>>>>>>>> Inc.’s work has evolved from databases, to satellite command and control
>>>>>>>>> systems, to real-time simulators, to information science.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK, so they do a lot more than make than one piece of software.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you look today, you will find that that information has been removed!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even in the past seemed the page had missing content:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://web.archive.org/web/20060318024315/http://www.etresoft.com/products/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Odd.
>>>>>
>>>>> We agree!
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Something *IS* wrong with the whole Etresoft set-up. Maybe you can help
>>>>>>> me find out what if you can find the time. Perhaps Steve will help too.
>>>>>>> All I'm after is the truth and to stop 'bad guys' hurting others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems they have a lousy website.
>>>>>
>>>>> I took a screenshot. This information is plainly wrong:-
>>>>>
>>>>> https://david-b.imgbb.com
>>>>
>>>> I do not see the screenshot.
>>>
>>> Oops! Sorry! Try here:- https://ibb.co/RhqnSPX
>>
>> If you are curious you can see some of the history of that page:
>>
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20210501000000*/https://www.etresoft.com/#products
>
> So you did sober up a bit... good!
>
> Glad I could 'help' you with your issue here ;)

More of your drama... and another example of where you thought you helped when
I posted something. Delusional of you.

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On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2022 at 9:57:36 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
><t39jq0$dt9$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 9:22:18 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>> <t39hnq$dt9$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> (snip)
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I do not KNOW why they are still on my computer, nor do I know whether
>>>>>>>>> or not they are nefarious.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yet, that hasn't stopped you from trying to slime people, to the point
>>>>>>>> where you get banned/shunned.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not 'sliming' anyone. I'm trying to establish the facts - the truth!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How would you feel about contacting JD and discussing this whole
>>>>>>>>> scenario with him?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've no need, I know how the files get there and what they generally do.
>>>>>>>> I've stayed out of it because you ignored me the last time I tried to
>>>>>>>> help you. There's no upside for me as you don't listen anyway: that, and
>>>>>>>> I get your 'friend', Glasser, crawling all over the conversation with
>>>>>>>> his childish bullsh*t. I'm still waiting for the hypocrite to help you
>>>>>>>> with what you asked for in the last thread he turned into a pile of
>>>>>>>> sh*t. I will only ever help you when I feel like it and I'll do so in
>>>>>>>> the manner I believe you deserve (designed to make YOU do some of the
>>>>>>>> work). I'll say it AGAIN: IMO, you and your 'friend' are lucky anyone
>>>>>>>> ever responds to you on any topic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can understand your point of view
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You, ignoring my help and the crawler doing his crawling, isn't a "point
>>>>>> of view", it's a fact anyone can verify.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and fully appreciate your modus
>>>>>>> operandi. However, I acknowledge that I do not have, nor ever will have,
>>>>>>> the technical skills required to dig deep enough to suss out anything
>>>>>>> untoward. I cannot make you do anything at all, but I /would/ appreciate
>>>>>>> your help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You say that, yet, you ignored my previous attempts to help you, as well
>>>>>> as the attempts of other posters. You're clearly lying here, you only
>>>>>> want the 'help' you believe would aid you in pursuing your stalking
>>>>>> agenda. The idea that you seem to believe you've hidden this fact is
>>>>>> goofy.
>>>>>
>>>>> As predicted: you are pretending your games are designed to "help"
>>>>
>>>> <t24ilh$r8h$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>
>>>> <t2sav9$8u8$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>
>>>> <t2pkhn$u8c$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>
>>>> <t27q3q$fl8$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>
>>>> <t2su9c$qb2$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>
>>>> <t2ssmt$qb2$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Those aren't "games", they're reality. The only game is yours, where you
>>>> pretend reality is a "game".
>>>>
>>>>> -- as if you were asked to help in this area.
>>>>
>>>> Up a paragraph or so, to me:
>>>> "...but I /would/ appreciate your help." - DB
>>>
>>> That was not in reference to my code for selecting color. Context matters.
>>
>> <3GX5K.247461$H_t7.15928@fx40.iad>
>>
>> <shrug>
>
> Your defense of your nonsense is you could not understand the context of his
> request.

So... in what you call your 'mind', he was talking about color
selection? Wow, I've always known you 'had it bad' when it came to
reading and reality but this takes it to a new level. In any event, I
give him *my* 'app' to use as he wishes:

set startingColor to choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535}
set chosenColor to {}
repeat with colorItem in startingColor
set colorItem to round colorItem / 256
copy colorItem to end of chosenColor
end repeat
set the clipboard to "(" & item 1 of chosenColor & "," & item 2 of chosenColor & "," & item 3 of chosenColor & ")"

I *think* I've been using this since 2015 for web dev... can't recall
exactly. I could be wrong.

On Apr 14, 2022 at 11:22:19 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t39oor$5d0$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 9:57:36 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>> <t39jq0$dt9$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>
>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 9:22:18 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>>> <t39hnq$dt9$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I do not KNOW why they are still on my computer, nor do I know whether
>>>>>>>>>> or not they are nefarious.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yet, that hasn't stopped you from trying to slime people, to the point
>>>>>>>>> where you get banned/shunned.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not 'sliming' anyone. I'm trying to establish the facts - the truth!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How would you feel about contacting JD and discussing this whole
>>>>>>>>>> scenario with him?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've no need, I know how the files get there and what they generally do.
>>>>>>>>> I've stayed out of it because you ignored me the last time I tried to
>>>>>>>>> help you. There's no upside for me as you don't listen anyway: that, and
>>>>>>>>> I get your 'friend', Glasser, crawling all over the conversation with
>>>>>>>>> his childish bullsh*t. I'm still waiting for the hypocrite to help you
>>>>>>>>> with what you asked for in the last thread he turned into a pile of
>>>>>>>>> sh*t. I will only ever help you when I feel like it and I'll do so in
>>>>>>>>> the manner I believe you deserve (designed to make YOU do some of the
>>>>>>>>> work). I'll say it AGAIN: IMO, you and your 'friend' are lucky anyone
>>>>>>>>> ever responds to you on any topic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can understand your point of view
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You, ignoring my help and the crawler doing his crawling, isn't a "point
>>>>>>> of view", it's a fact anyone can verify.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and fully appreciate your modus
>>>>>>>> operandi. However, I acknowledge that I do not have, nor ever will have,
>>>>>>>> the technical skills required to dig deep enough to suss out anything
>>>>>>>> untoward. I cannot make you do anything at all, but I /would/ appreciate
>>>>>>>> your help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You say that, yet, you ignored my previous attempts to help you, as well
>>>>>>> as the attempts of other posters. You're clearly lying here, you only
>>>>>>> want the 'help' you believe would aid you in pursuing your stalking
>>>>>>> agenda. The idea that you seem to believe you've hidden this fact is
>>>>>>> goofy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As predicted: you are pretending your games are designed to "help"
>>>>>
>>>>> <t24ilh$r8h$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> <t2sav9$8u8$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> <t2pkhn$u8c$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> <t27q3q$fl8$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> <t2su9c$qb2$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> <t2ssmt$qb2$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Those aren't "games", they're reality. The only game is yours, where you
>>>>> pretend reality is a "game".
>>>>>
>>>>>> -- as if you were asked to help in this area.
>>>>>
>>>>> Up a paragraph or so, to me:
>>>>> "...but I /would/ appreciate your help." - DB
>>>>
>>>> That was not in reference to my code for selecting color. Context matters.
>>>
>>> <3GX5K.247461$H_t7.15928@fx40.iad>
>>>
>>> <shrug>
>>
>> Your defense of your nonsense is you could not understand the context of his
>> request.
>
> So... in what you call your 'mind', he was talking about color
> selection? Wow, I've always known you 'had it bad' when it came to
> reading and reality but this takes it to a new level. In any event, I
> give him *my* 'app' to use as he wishes:
>
> set startingColor to choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535}
> set chosenColor to {}
> repeat with colorItem in startingColor
> set colorItem to round colorItem / 256
> copy colorItem to end of chosenColor
> end repeat
> set the clipboard to "(" & item 1 of chosenColor & "," & item 2 of chosenColor
> & "," & item 3 of chosenColor & ")"
>
> I *think* I've been using this since 2015 for web dev... can't recall
> exactly. I could be wrong.

That is different code than you used before... but you in the current
conversation you only posted ANY color selection code after I showed this:
https://jmp.sh/v1S510z

Your need for drama is never ending.

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Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2022 at 11:22:19 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
><t39oor$5d0$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 9:57:36 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>> <t39jq0$dt9$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 9:22:18 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>>>> <t39hnq$dt9$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I do not KNOW why they are still on my computer, nor do I know whether
>>>>>>>>>>> or not they are nefarious.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yet, that hasn't stopped you from trying to slime people, to the point
>>>>>>>>>> where you get banned/shunned.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm not 'sliming' anyone. I'm trying to establish the facts - the truth!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How would you feel about contacting JD and discussing this whole
>>>>>>>>>>> scenario with him?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've no need, I know how the files get there and what they generally do.
>>>>>>>>>> I've stayed out of it because you ignored me the last time I tried to
>>>>>>>>>> help you. There's no upside for me as you don't listen anyway: that, and
>>>>>>>>>> I get your 'friend', Glasser, crawling all over the conversation with
>>>>>>>>>> his childish bullsh*t. I'm still waiting for the hypocrite to help you
>>>>>>>>>> with what you asked for in the last thread he turned into a pile of
>>>>>>>>>> sh*t. I will only ever help you when I feel like it and I'll do so in
>>>>>>>>>> the manner I believe you deserve (designed to make YOU do some of the
>>>>>>>>>> work). I'll say it AGAIN: IMO, you and your 'friend' are lucky anyone
>>>>>>>>>> ever responds to you on any topic.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can understand your point of view
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You, ignoring my help and the crawler doing his crawling, isn't a "point
>>>>>>>> of view", it's a fact anyone can verify.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and fully appreciate your modus
>>>>>>>>> operandi. However, I acknowledge that I do not have, nor ever will have,
>>>>>>>>> the technical skills required to dig deep enough to suss out anything
>>>>>>>>> untoward. I cannot make you do anything at all, but I /would/ appreciate
>>>>>>>>> your help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You say that, yet, you ignored my previous attempts to help you, as well
>>>>>>>> as the attempts of other posters. You're clearly lying here, you only
>>>>>>>> want the 'help' you believe would aid you in pursuing your stalking
>>>>>>>> agenda. The idea that you seem to believe you've hidden this fact is
>>>>>>>> goofy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As predicted: you are pretending your games are designed to "help"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <t24ilh$r8h$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <t2sav9$8u8$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <t2pkhn$u8c$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <t27q3q$fl8$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <t2su9c$qb2$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <t2ssmt$qb2$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those aren't "games", they're reality. The only game is yours, where you
>>>>>> pretend reality is a "game".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- as if you were asked to help in this area.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Up a paragraph or so, to me:
>>>>>> "...but I /would/ appreciate your help." - DB
>>>>>
>>>>> That was not in reference to my code for selecting color. Context matters.
>>>>
>>>> <3GX5K.247461$H_t7.15928@fx40.iad>
>>>>
>>>> <shrug>
>>>
>>> Your defense of your nonsense is you could not understand the context of his
>>> request.
>>
>> So... in what you call your 'mind', he was talking about color
>> selection? Wow, I've always known you 'had it bad' when it came to
>> reading and reality but this takes it to a new level. In any event, I
>> give him *my* 'app' to use as he wishes:
>>
>> set startingColor to choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535}
>> set chosenColor to {}
>> repeat with colorItem in startingColor
>> set colorItem to round colorItem / 256
>> copy colorItem to end of chosenColor
>> end repeat
>> set the clipboard to "(" & item 1 of chosenColor & "," & item 2 of chosenColor
>> & "," & item 3 of chosenColor & ")"
>>
>> I *think* I've been using this since 2015 for web dev... can't recall
>> exactly. I could be wrong.
>
> That is different code than you used before...

I didn't give him all the code before, in fact, I still haven't. Here's
a bit more that he might find useful:

property chosenColors : {}
set startingColor to choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535}
set chosenColor to {}
repeat with colorItem in startingColor
set colorItem to round colorItem / 256
copy colorItem to end of chosenColor
copy colorItem to end of chosenColors
end repeat
set the clipboard to "(" & item 1 of chosenColor & "," & item 2 of chosenColor & "," & item 3 of chosenColor & ")"
on seeColors(chosenColors)
copy "-" to end of chosenColors
log chosenColors
end seeColors
seeColors(chosenColors)

He can store colors as many times as he runs it.

<https://i.ibb.co/3MMvmQ1/db-picker.png>

On Apr 14, 2022 at 11:50:15 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t39qd6$jh7$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 11:22:19 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>> <t39oor$5d0$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>
>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 9:57:36 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>>> <t39jq0$dt9$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 9:22:18 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>>>>> <t39hnq$dt9$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not KNOW why they are still on my computer, nor do I know whether
>>>>>>>>>>>> or not they are nefarious.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, that hasn't stopped you from trying to slime people, to the point
>>>>>>>>>>> where you get banned/shunned.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not 'sliming' anyone. I'm trying to establish the facts - the truth!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How would you feel about contacting JD and discussing this whole
>>>>>>>>>>>> scenario with him?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've no need, I know how the files get there and what they generally do.
>>>>>>>>>>> I've stayed out of it because you ignored me the last time I tried to
>>>>>>>>>>> help you. There's no upside for me as you don't listen anyway: that, and
>>>>>>>>>>> I get your 'friend', Glasser, crawling all over the conversation with
>>>>>>>>>>> his childish bullsh*t. I'm still waiting for the hypocrite to help you
>>>>>>>>>>> with what you asked for in the last thread he turned into a pile of
>>>>>>>>>>> sh*t. I will only ever help you when I feel like it and I'll do so in
>>>>>>>>>>> the manner I believe you deserve (designed to make YOU do some of the
>>>>>>>>>>> work). I'll say it AGAIN: IMO, you and your 'friend' are lucky anyone
>>>>>>>>>>> ever responds to you on any topic.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I can understand your point of view
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You, ignoring my help and the crawler doing his crawling, isn't a "point
>>>>>>>>> of view", it's a fact anyone can verify.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and fully appreciate your modus
>>>>>>>>>> operandi. However, I acknowledge that I do not have, nor ever will have,
>>>>>>>>>> the technical skills required to dig deep enough to suss out anything
>>>>>>>>>> untoward. I cannot make you do anything at all, but I /would/ appreciate
>>>>>>>>>> your help.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You say that, yet, you ignored my previous attempts to help you, as well
>>>>>>>>> as the attempts of other posters. You're clearly lying here, you only
>>>>>>>>> want the 'help' you believe would aid you in pursuing your stalking
>>>>>>>>> agenda. The idea that you seem to believe you've hidden this fact is
>>>>>>>>> goofy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As predicted: you are pretending your games are designed to "help"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <t24ilh$r8h$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <t2sav9$8u8$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <t2pkhn$u8c$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <t27q3q$fl8$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <t2su9c$qb2$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <t2ssmt$qb2$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those aren't "games", they're reality. The only game is yours, where you
>>>>>>> pretend reality is a "game".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- as if you were asked to help in this area.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Up a paragraph or so, to me:
>>>>>>> "...but I /would/ appreciate your help." - DB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That was not in reference to my code for selecting color. Context matters.
>>>>>
>>>>> <3GX5K.247461$H_t7.15928@fx40.iad>
>>>>>
>>>>> <shrug>
>>>>
>>>> Your defense of your nonsense is you could not understand the context of his
>>>> request.
>>>
>>> So... in what you call your 'mind', he was talking about color
>>> selection? Wow, I've always known you 'had it bad' when it came to
>>> reading and reality but this takes it to a new level. In any event, I
>>> give him *my* 'app' to use as he wishes:
>>>
>>> set startingColor to choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535}
>>> set chosenColor to {}
>>> repeat with colorItem in startingColor
>>> set colorItem to round colorItem / 256
>>> copy colorItem to end of chosenColor
>>> end repeat
>>> set the clipboard to "(" & item 1 of chosenColor & "," & item 2 of chosenColor
>>> & "," & item 3 of chosenColor & ")"
>>>
>>> I *think* I've been using this since 2015 for web dev... can't recall
>>> exactly. I could be wrong.
>>
>> That is different code than you used before...
>
> I didn't give him all the code before,

But you will push more as a part of your drama. Not interested. Next you will
compare your code with mine and brag. Your games are predictable.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 2022-04-14, Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> wrote:
> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 11:22:19 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>><t39oor$5d0$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>
>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 9:57:36 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>>> <t39jq0$dt9$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 9:22:18 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>>>>> <t39hnq$dt9$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not KNOW why they are still on my computer, nor do I know whether
>>>>>>>>>>>> or not they are nefarious.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, that hasn't stopped you from trying to slime people, to the point
>>>>>>>>>>> where you get banned/shunned.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not 'sliming' anyone. I'm trying to establish the facts - the truth!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How would you feel about contacting JD and discussing this whole
>>>>>>>>>>>> scenario with him?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've no need, I know how the files get there and what they generally do.
>>>>>>>>>>> I've stayed out of it because you ignored me the last time I tried to
>>>>>>>>>>> help you. There's no upside for me as you don't listen anyway: that, and
>>>>>>>>>>> I get your 'friend', Glasser, crawling all over the conversation with
>>>>>>>>>>> his childish bullsh*t. I'm still waiting for the hypocrite to help you
>>>>>>>>>>> with what you asked for in the last thread he turned into a pile of
>>>>>>>>>>> sh*t. I will only ever help you when I feel like it and I'll do so in
>>>>>>>>>>> the manner I believe you deserve (designed to make YOU do some of the
>>>>>>>>>>> work). I'll say it AGAIN: IMO, you and your 'friend' are lucky anyone
>>>>>>>>>>> ever responds to you on any topic.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I can understand your point of view
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You, ignoring my help and the crawler doing his crawling, isn't a "point
>>>>>>>>> of view", it's a fact anyone can verify.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and fully appreciate your modus
>>>>>>>>>> operandi. However, I acknowledge that I do not have, nor ever will have,
>>>>>>>>>> the technical skills required to dig deep enough to suss out anything
>>>>>>>>>> untoward. I cannot make you do anything at all, but I /would/ appreciate
>>>>>>>>>> your help.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You say that, yet, you ignored my previous attempts to help you, as well
>>>>>>>>> as the attempts of other posters. You're clearly lying here, you only
>>>>>>>>> want the 'help' you believe would aid you in pursuing your stalking
>>>>>>>>> agenda. The idea that you seem to believe you've hidden this fact is
>>>>>>>>> goofy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As predicted: you are pretending your games are designed to "help"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <t24ilh$r8h$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <t2sav9$8u8$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <t2pkhn$u8c$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <t27q3q$fl8$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <t2su9c$qb2$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <t2ssmt$qb2$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those aren't "games", they're reality. The only game is yours, where you
>>>>>>> pretend reality is a "game".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- as if you were asked to help in this area.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Up a paragraph or so, to me:
>>>>>>> "...but I /would/ appreciate your help." - DB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That was not in reference to my code for selecting color. Context matters.
>>>>>
>>>>> <3GX5K.247461$H_t7.15928@fx40.iad>
>>>>>
>>>>> <shrug>
>>>>
>>>> Your defense of your nonsense is you could not understand the context of his
>>>> request.
>>>
>>> So... in what you call your 'mind', he was talking about color
>>> selection? Wow, I've always known you 'had it bad' when it came to
>>> reading and reality but this takes it to a new level. In any event, I
>>> give him *my* 'app' to use as he wishes:
>>>
>>> set startingColor to choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535}
>>> set chosenColor to {}
>>> repeat with colorItem in startingColor
>>> set colorItem to round colorItem / 256
>>> copy colorItem to end of chosenColor
>>> end repeat
>>> set the clipboard to "(" & item 1 of chosenColor & "," & item 2 of chosenColor
>>> & "," & item 3 of chosenColor & ")"
>>>
>>> I *think* I've been using this since 2015 for web dev... can't recall
>>> exactly. I could be wrong.
>>
>> That is different code than you used before...
>
> I didn't give him all the code before, in fact, I still haven't. Here's
> a bit more that he might find useful:
>
> property chosenColors : {}
> set startingColor to choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535}
> set chosenColor to {}
> repeat with colorItem in startingColor
> set colorItem to round colorItem / 256
> copy colorItem to end of chosenColor
> copy colorItem to end of chosenColors
> end repeat
> set the clipboard to "(" & item 1 of chosenColor & "," & item 2 of chosenColor & "," & item 3 of chosenColor & ")"
> on seeColors(chosenColors)
> copy "-" to end of chosenColors
> log chosenColors
> end seeColors
> seeColors(chosenColors)
>
> He can store colors as many times as he runs it.
>
><https://i.ibb.co/3MMvmQ1/db-picker.png>

A more efficient version (Doh! ;)

property chosenColors : {}
set startingColor to choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535}
repeat with colorItem in startingColor
set colorItem to round colorItem / 256
copy colorItem to end of chosenColors
end repeat
set the clipboard to "(" & item 1 of chosenColors & "," & item 2 of chosenColors & "," & item 3 of chosenColors & ")"
on seeColors(chosenColors)
copy "-" to end of chosenColors
log chosenColors
end seeColors
seeColors(chosenColors)

On 14/04/2022 18:26, Snit wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2022 at 10:20:38 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <GJY5K.219272$Xa1.10315@fx10.ams1>:
>
>> On 14/04/2022 18:09, Snit wrote:
>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 10:07:13 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <5xY5K.219270$Xa1.133467@fx10.ams1>:
>>>
>>>> On 14/04/2022 16:53, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 2:43:22 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <_0S5K.20977$F4h.10947@fx07.ams1>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 19:29, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2022 at 11:15:40 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>> <glj5K.29795$ep1.5859@fx03.ams1>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 17:09, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2022 at 12:05:01 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <xw95K.392829$Lc1.296469@fx12.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 00:29, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 3:07:48 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> <UE15K.57939$3b1.40537@fx14.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2022 21:58, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2022 20:38, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will you explain WHY you are reluctant to contact the developer about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this matter? It won't cost anything more than a few minutes of your time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you write it up and if he's OK with the wording, go from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there? You're asking for his time, use less of it and convey the words
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *you* want to convey <shrug>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a 'techie'. I've already rattled JD's cage sufficiently for him
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to refund the price I paid for his software. Logic tells me that an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> honest man would not do that. I suspect that the use of EtreCheck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enables JD to manipulate the ASC forum posts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sigh... it never ends.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm suggesting that YOU compose the email sent to JD, asking the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions YOU want answered and Glasser, if he agrees, will send it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have written directly to JD on many occasions previously.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly, he fails to respond, even when I write to try to help him, viz:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://ibb.co/mJXpm0c
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you get no responses on that type of email it sounds like he has poor
>>>>>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As far as I'm aware, he's a one-man-band. Do you see him on LinkedIn?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I see only one person tied to EtreSoft there: Tess Pierce. I do not really use
>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn much, though, so maybe there are more I am missing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you so much for looking, Snit! 🙂
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This was news there, for me:-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Board Member, Cultural & Creative App Development Board Member, Cultural
>>>>>>>> & Creative App Development
>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc
>>>>>>>> 2013 - Present · 9 yrs 4 mos
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc. is software development and consulting corporation that
>>>>>>>> has been in business, in both the USA and Canada, since 1997. We have
>>>>>>>> developed and shipped a number of consumer software tools for both
>>>>>>>> Macintosh and Windows systems. Our products are used by major
>>>>>>>> corporations, governments, educational institutions, and over half a
>>>>>>>> million people. Read more about our products here:
>>>>>>>> https://www.etresoft.com/#products" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.etresoft.com/#products
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc. personnel have consulted with and worked for major
>>>>>>>> government agencies, militaries, and educational institutions. Etresoft,
>>>>>>>> Inc.’s work has evolved from databases, to satellite command and control
>>>>>>>> systems, to real-time simulators, to information science.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, so they do a lot more than make than one piece of software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you look today, you will find that that information has been removed!
>>>>>
>>>>> Even in the past seemed the page had missing content:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://web.archive.org/web/20060318024315/http://www.etresoft.com/products/
>>>>>
>>>>> Odd.
>>>>
>>>> We agree!
>>>>
>>>>>> Something *IS* wrong with the whole Etresoft set-up. Maybe you can help
>>>>>> me find out what if you can find the time. Perhaps Steve will help too.
>>>>>> All I'm after is the truth and to stop 'bad guys' hurting others.
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems they have a lousy website.
>>>>
>>>> I took a screenshot. This information is plainly wrong:-
>>>>
>>>> https://david-b.imgbb.com
>>>
>>> I do not see the screenshot.
>>
>> Oops! Sorry! Try here:- https://ibb.co/RhqnSPX
>
> If you are curious you can see some of the history of that page:
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20210501000000*/https://www.etresoft.com/#products
>
> Really the same thing as
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20210501000000*/https://www.etresoft.com
>
> The key is:
>
> https://www.etresoft.com
>
> The # points to a place ON a page, not a different page. Odd to have the slash
> in front of it.

The Company (Inc) wasn't formed until 2015!

https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/scr/cc/CorporationsCanada/fdrlCrpDtls.html?corpId=9212671&V_TOKEN=null&crpNm=Etresoft%20Inc&crpNmbr=&bsNmbr=

Tess lied in her LinkedIn personal (now removed)

On Apr 14, 2022 at 12:01:22 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<6c_5K.40796$4c1.36038@fx13.ams1>:

> On 14/04/2022 18:26, Snit wrote:
>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 10:20:38 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <GJY5K.219272$Xa1.10315@fx10.ams1>:
>>
>>> On 14/04/2022 18:09, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 10:07:13 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <5xY5K.219270$Xa1.133467@fx10.ams1>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 14/04/2022 16:53, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 2:43:22 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <_0S5K.20977$F4h.10947@fx07.ams1>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 19:29, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2022 at 11:15:40 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>> <glj5K.29795$ep1.5859@fx03.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 17:09, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2022 at 12:05:01 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>> <xw95K.392829$Lc1.296469@fx12.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 00:29, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 3:07:48 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> <UE15K.57939$3b1.40537@fx14.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2022 21:58, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2022 20:38, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will you explain WHY you are reluctant to contact the developer about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this matter? It won't cost anything more than a few minutes of your time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you write it up and if he's OK with the wording, go from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there? You're asking for his time, use less of it and convey the words
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *you* want to convey <shrug>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a 'techie'. I've already rattled JD's cage sufficiently for him
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to refund the price I paid for his software. Logic tells me that an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> honest man would not do that. I suspect that the use of EtreCheck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enables JD to manipulate the ASC forum posts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sigh... it never ends.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm suggesting that YOU compose the email sent to JD, asking the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions YOU want answered and Glasser, if he agrees, will send it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have written directly to JD on many occasions previously.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly, he fails to respond, even when I write to try to help him, viz:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://ibb.co/mJXpm0c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you get no responses on that type of email it sounds like he has poor
>>>>>>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I'm aware, he's a one-man-band. Do you see him on LinkedIn?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I see only one person tied to EtreSoft there: Tess Pierce. I do not really use
>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn much, though, so maybe there are more I am missing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much for looking, Snit! 🙂
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This was news there, for me:-
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Board Member, Cultural & Creative App Development Board Member, Cultural
>>>>>>>>> & Creative App Development
>>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc
>>>>>>>>> 2013 - Present · 9 yrs 4 mos
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc. is software development and consulting corporation that
>>>>>>>>> has been in business, in both the USA and Canada, since 1997. We have
>>>>>>>>> developed and shipped a number of consumer software tools for both
>>>>>>>>> Macintosh and Windows systems. Our products are used by major
>>>>>>>>> corporations, governments, educational institutions, and over half a
>>>>>>>>> million people. Read more about our products here:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.etresoft.com/#products" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.etresoft.com/#products
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc. personnel have consulted with and worked for major
>>>>>>>>> government agencies, militaries, and educational institutions. Etresoft,
>>>>>>>>> Inc.’s work has evolved from databases, to satellite command and control
>>>>>>>>> systems, to real-time simulators, to information science.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK, so they do a lot more than make than one piece of software.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you look today, you will find that that information has been removed!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even in the past seemed the page had missing content:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://web.archive.org/web/20060318024315/http://www.etresoft.com/products/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Odd.
>>>>>
>>>>> We agree!
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Something *IS* wrong with the whole Etresoft set-up. Maybe you can help
>>>>>>> me find out what if you can find the time. Perhaps Steve will help too.
>>>>>>> All I'm after is the truth and to stop 'bad guys' hurting others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems they have a lousy website.
>>>>>
>>>>> I took a screenshot. This information is plainly wrong:-
>>>>>
>>>>> https://david-b.imgbb.com
>>>>
>>>> I do not see the screenshot.
>>>
>>> Oops! Sorry! Try here:- https://ibb.co/RhqnSPX
>>
>> If you are curious you can see some of the history of that page:
>>
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20210501000000*/https://www.etresoft.com/#products
>>
>> Really the same thing as
>>
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20210501000000*/https://www.etresoft.com
>>
>> The key is:
>>
>> https://www.etresoft.com
>>
>> The # points to a place ON a page, not a different page. Odd to have the slash
>> in front of it.
>
>
> The Company (Inc) wasn't formed until 2015!
>
> https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/scr/cc/CorporationsCanada/fdrlCrpDtls.html?corpId=9212671&V_TOKEN=null&crpNm=Etresoft%20Inc&crpNmbr=&bsNmbr=
>
> Tess lied in her LinkedIn personal (now removed)

They have been around since at least 1999.

https://web.archive.org/web/19991127213247/http://www.etresoft.com/

On Apr 14, 2022 at 11:54:49 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t39qlp$jh7$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-14, Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> wrote:
>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 11:22:19 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>> <t39oor$5d0$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 9:57:36 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>>>> <t39jq0$dt9$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 9:22:18 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>>>>>> <t39hnq$dt9$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not KNOW why they are still on my computer, nor do I know whether
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or not they are nefarious.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, that hasn't stopped you from trying to slime people, to the point
>>>>>>>>>>>> where you get banned/shunned.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not 'sliming' anyone. I'm trying to establish the facts - the truth!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How would you feel about contacting JD and discussing this whole
>>>>>>>>>>>>> scenario with him?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've no need, I know how the files get there and what they generally do.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've stayed out of it because you ignored me the last time I tried to
>>>>>>>>>>>> help you. There's no upside for me as you don't listen anyway: that, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> I get your 'friend', Glasser, crawling all over the conversation with
>>>>>>>>>>>> his childish bullsh*t. I'm still waiting for the hypocrite to help you
>>>>>>>>>>>> with what you asked for in the last thread he turned into a pile of
>>>>>>>>>>>> sh*t. I will only ever help you when I feel like it and I'll do so in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the manner I believe you deserve (designed to make YOU do some of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> work). I'll say it AGAIN: IMO, you and your 'friend' are lucky anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>> ever responds to you on any topic.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I can understand your point of view
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You, ignoring my help and the crawler doing his crawling, isn't a "point
>>>>>>>>>> of view", it's a fact anyone can verify.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and fully appreciate your modus
>>>>>>>>>>> operandi. However, I acknowledge that I do not have, nor ever will have,
>>>>>>>>>>> the technical skills required to dig deep enough to suss out anything
>>>>>>>>>>> untoward. I cannot make you do anything at all, but I /would/ appreciate
>>>>>>>>>>> your help.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You say that, yet, you ignored my previous attempts to help you, as well
>>>>>>>>>> as the attempts of other posters. You're clearly lying here, you only
>>>>>>>>>> want the 'help' you believe would aid you in pursuing your stalking
>>>>>>>>>> agenda. The idea that you seem to believe you've hidden this fact is
>>>>>>>>>> goofy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As predicted: you are pretending your games are designed to "help"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <t24ilh$r8h$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <t2sav9$8u8$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <t2pkhn$u8c$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <t27q3q$fl8$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <t2su9c$qb2$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <t2ssmt$qb2$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Those aren't "games", they're reality. The only game is yours, where you
>>>>>>>> pretend reality is a "game".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- as if you were asked to help in this area.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Up a paragraph or so, to me:
>>>>>>>> "...but I /would/ appreciate your help." - DB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That was not in reference to my code for selecting color. Context matters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <3GX5K.247461$H_t7.15928@fx40.iad>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <shrug>
>>>>>
>>>>> Your defense of your nonsense is you could not understand the context of his
>>>>> request.
>>>>
>>>> So... in what you call your 'mind', he was talking about color
>>>> selection? Wow, I've always known you 'had it bad' when it came to
>>>> reading and reality but this takes it to a new level. In any event, I
>>>> give him *my* 'app' to use as he wishes:
>>>>
>>>> set startingColor to choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535}
>>>> set chosenColor to {}
>>>> repeat with colorItem in startingColor
>>>> set colorItem to round colorItem / 256
>>>> copy colorItem to end of chosenColor
>>>> end repeat
>>>> set the clipboard to "(" & item 1 of chosenColor & "," & item 2 of chosenColor
>>>> & "," & item 3 of chosenColor & ")"
>>>>
>>>> I *think* I've been using this since 2015 for web dev... can't recall
>>>> exactly. I could be wrong.
>>>
>>> That is different code than you used before...
>>
>> I didn't give him all the code before, in fact, I still haven't. Here's
>> a bit more that he might find useful:
>>
>> property chosenColors : {}
>> set startingColor to choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535}
>> set chosenColor to {}
>> repeat with colorItem in startingColor
>> set colorItem to round colorItem / 256
>> copy colorItem to end of chosenColor
>> copy colorItem to end of chosenColors
>> end repeat
>> set the clipboard to "(" & item 1 of chosenColor & "," & item 2 of
>> chosenColor & "," & item 3 of chosenColor & ")"
>> on seeColors(chosenColors)
>> copy "-" to end of chosenColors
>> log chosenColors
>> end seeColors
>> seeColors(chosenColors)
>>
>> He can store colors as many times as he runs it.
>>
>> <https://i.ibb.co/3MMvmQ1/db-picker.png>
>
> A more efficient version (Doh! ;)
>
> property chosenColors : {}
> set startingColor to choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535}
> repeat with colorItem in startingColor
> set colorItem to round colorItem / 256
> copy colorItem to end of chosenColors
> end repeat
> set the clipboard to "(" & item 1 of chosenColors & "," & item 2 of
> chosenColors & "," & item 3 of chosenColors & ")"
> on seeColors(chosenColors)
> copy "-" to end of chosenColors
> log chosenColors
> end seeColors
> seeColors(chosenColors)

On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2022 at 11:54:49 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
><t39qlp$jh7$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2022-04-14, Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> wrote:
>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 11:22:19 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>>> <t39oor$5d0$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 9:57:36 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>>>>> <t39jq0$dt9$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 9:22:18 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>>>>>>> <t39hnq$dt9$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not KNOW why they are still on my computer, nor do I know whether
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or not they are nefarious.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, that hasn't stopped you from trying to slime people, to the point
>>>>>>>>>>>>> where you get banned/shunned.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not 'sliming' anyone. I'm trying to establish the facts - the truth!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How would you feel about contacting JD and discussing this whole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scenario with him?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've no need, I know how the files get there and what they generally do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've stayed out of it because you ignored me the last time I tried to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> help you. There's no upside for me as you don't listen anyway: that, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get your 'friend', Glasser, crawling all over the conversation with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> his childish bullsh*t. I'm still waiting for the hypocrite to help you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with what you asked for in the last thread he turned into a pile of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sh*t. I will only ever help you when I feel like it and I'll do so in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the manner I believe you deserve (designed to make YOU do some of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> work). I'll say it AGAIN: IMO, you and your 'friend' are lucky anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever responds to you on any topic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can understand your point of view
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You, ignoring my help and the crawler doing his crawling, isn't a "point
>>>>>>>>>>> of view", it's a fact anyone can verify.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and fully appreciate your modus
>>>>>>>>>>>> operandi. However, I acknowledge that I do not have, nor ever will have,
>>>>>>>>>>>> the technical skills required to dig deep enough to suss out anything
>>>>>>>>>>>> untoward. I cannot make you do anything at all, but I /would/ appreciate
>>>>>>>>>>>> your help.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You say that, yet, you ignored my previous attempts to help you, as well
>>>>>>>>>>> as the attempts of other posters. You're clearly lying here, you only
>>>>>>>>>>> want the 'help' you believe would aid you in pursuing your stalking
>>>>>>>>>>> agenda. The idea that you seem to believe you've hidden this fact is
>>>>>>>>>>> goofy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As predicted: you are pretending your games are designed to "help"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <t24ilh$r8h$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <t2sav9$8u8$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <t2pkhn$u8c$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <t27q3q$fl8$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <t2su9c$qb2$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <t2ssmt$qb2$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Those aren't "games", they're reality. The only game is yours, where you
>>>>>>>>> pretend reality is a "game".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -- as if you were asked to help in this area.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Up a paragraph or so, to me:
>>>>>>>>> "...but I /would/ appreciate your help." - DB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That was not in reference to my code for selecting color. Context matters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <3GX5K.247461$H_t7.15928@fx40.iad>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <shrug>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your defense of your nonsense is you could not understand the context of his
>>>>>> request.
>>>>>
>>>>> So... in what you call your 'mind', he was talking about color
>>>>> selection? Wow, I've always known you 'had it bad' when it came to
>>>>> reading and reality but this takes it to a new level. In any event, I
>>>>> give him *my* 'app' to use as he wishes:
>>>>>
>>>>> set startingColor to choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535}
>>>>> set chosenColor to {}
>>>>> repeat with colorItem in startingColor
>>>>> set colorItem to round colorItem / 256
>>>>> copy colorItem to end of chosenColor
>>>>> end repeat
>>>>> set the clipboard to "(" & item 1 of chosenColor & "," & item 2 of chosenColor
>>>>> & "," & item 3 of chosenColor & ")"
>>>>>
>>>>> I *think* I've been using this since 2015 for web dev... can't recall
>>>>> exactly. I could be wrong.
>>>>
>>>> That is different code than you used before...
>>>
>>> I didn't give him all the code before, in fact, I still haven't. Here's
>>> a bit more that he might find useful:
>>>
>>> property chosenColors : {}
>>> set startingColor to choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535}
>>> set chosenColor to {}
>>> repeat with colorItem in startingColor
>>> set colorItem to round colorItem / 256
>>> copy colorItem to end of chosenColor
>>> copy colorItem to end of chosenColors
>>> end repeat
>>> set the clipboard to "(" & item 1 of chosenColor & "," & item 2 of
>>> chosenColor & "," & item 3 of chosenColor & ")"
>>> on seeColors(chosenColors)
>>> copy "-" to end of chosenColors
>>> log chosenColors
>>> end seeColors
>>> seeColors(chosenColors)
>>>
>>> He can store colors as many times as he runs it.
>>>
>>> <https://i.ibb.co/3MMvmQ1/db-picker.png>
>>
>> A more efficient version (Doh! ;)
>>
>> property chosenColors : {}
>> set startingColor to choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535}
>> repeat with colorItem in startingColor
>> set colorItem to round colorItem / 256
>> copy colorItem to end of chosenColors
>> end repeat
>> set the clipboard to "(" & item 1 of chosenColors & "," & item 2 of
>> chosenColors & "," & item 3 of chosenColors & ")"
>> on seeColors(chosenColors)
>> copy "-" to end of chosenColors
>> log chosenColors
>> end seeColors
>> seeColors(chosenColors)
>
> All of this off topic drama from you because I pointed to a simple app I wrote
> and showed David what files it "scattered".

On Apr 14, 2022 at 12:31:05 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t39spo$jh7$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 11:54:49 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>> <t39qlp$jh7$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>
>>> On 2022-04-14, Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> wrote:
>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 11:22:19 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>>>> <t39oor$5d0$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 9:57:36 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>>>>>> <t39jq0$dt9$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 9:22:18 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <t39hnq$dt9$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not KNOW why they are still on my computer, nor do I know whether
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or not they are nefarious.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, that hasn't stopped you from trying to slime people, to the point
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where you get banned/shunned.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not 'sliming' anyone. I'm trying to establish the facts - the truth!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How would you feel about contacting JD and discussing this whole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scenario with him?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've no need, I know how the files get there and what they generally do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've stayed out of it because you ignored me the last time I tried to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help you. There's no upside for me as you don't listen anyway: that, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get your 'friend', Glasser, crawling all over the conversation with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his childish bullsh*t. I'm still waiting for the hypocrite to help you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with what you asked for in the last thread he turned into a pile of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sh*t. I will only ever help you when I feel like it and I'll do so in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the manner I believe you deserve (designed to make YOU do some of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work). I'll say it AGAIN: IMO, you and your 'friend' are lucky anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever responds to you on any topic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can understand your point of view
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You, ignoring my help and the crawler doing his crawling, isn't a "point
>>>>>>>>>>>> of view", it's a fact anyone can verify.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and fully appreciate your modus
>>>>>>>>>>>>> operandi. However, I acknowledge that I do not have, nor ever will have,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the technical skills required to dig deep enough to suss out anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>> untoward. I cannot make you do anything at all, but I /would/ appreciate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You say that, yet, you ignored my previous attempts to help you, as well
>>>>>>>>>>>> as the attempts of other posters. You're clearly lying here, you only
>>>>>>>>>>>> want the 'help' you believe would aid you in pursuing your stalking
>>>>>>>>>>>> agenda. The idea that you seem to believe you've hidden this fact is
>>>>>>>>>>>> goofy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As predicted: you are pretending your games are designed to "help"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <t24ilh$r8h$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <t2sav9$8u8$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <t2pkhn$u8c$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <t27q3q$fl8$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <t2su9c$qb2$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <t2ssmt$qb2$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Those aren't "games", they're reality. The only game is yours, where you
>>>>>>>>>> pretend reality is a "game".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -- as if you were asked to help in this area.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Up a paragraph or so, to me:
>>>>>>>>>> "...but I /would/ appreciate your help." - DB
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That was not in reference to my code for selecting color. Context matters.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <3GX5K.247461$H_t7.15928@fx40.iad>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <shrug>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your defense of your nonsense is you could not understand the context of his
>>>>>>> request.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So... in what you call your 'mind', he was talking about color
>>>>>> selection? Wow, I've always known you 'had it bad' when it came to
>>>>>> reading and reality but this takes it to a new level. In any event, I
>>>>>> give him *my* 'app' to use as he wishes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> set startingColor to choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535}
>>>>>> set chosenColor to {}
>>>>>> repeat with colorItem in startingColor
>>>>>> set colorItem to round colorItem / 256
>>>>>> copy colorItem to end of chosenColor
>>>>>> end repeat
>>>>>> set the clipboard to "(" & item 1 of chosenColor & "," & item 2 of chosenColor
>>>>>> & "," & item 3 of chosenColor & ")"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I *think* I've been using this since 2015 for web dev... can't recall
>>>>>> exactly. I could be wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is different code than you used before...
>>>>
>>>> I didn't give him all the code before, in fact, I still haven't. Here's
>>>> a bit more that he might find useful:
>>>>
>>>> property chosenColors : {}
>>>> set startingColor to choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535}
>>>> set chosenColor to {}
>>>> repeat with colorItem in startingColor
>>>> set colorItem to round colorItem / 256
>>>> copy colorItem to end of chosenColor
>>>> copy colorItem to end of chosenColors
>>>> end repeat
>>>> set the clipboard to "(" & item 1 of chosenColor & "," & item 2 of
>>>> chosenColor & "," & item 3 of chosenColor & ")"
>>>> on seeColors(chosenColors)
>>>> copy "-" to end of chosenColors
>>>> log chosenColors
>>>> end seeColors
>>>> seeColors(chosenColors)
>>>>
>>>> He can store colors as many times as he runs it.
>>>>
>>>> <https://i.ibb.co/3MMvmQ1/db-picker.png>
>>>
>>> A more efficient version (Doh! ;)
>>>
>>> property chosenColors : {}
>>> set startingColor to choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535}
>>> repeat with colorItem in startingColor
>>> set colorItem to round colorItem / 256
>>> copy colorItem to end of chosenColors
>>> end repeat
>>> set the clipboard to "(" & item 1 of chosenColors & "," & item 2 of
>>> chosenColors & "," & item 3 of chosenColors & ")"
>>> on seeColors(chosenColors)
>>> copy "-" to end of chosenColors
>>> log chosenColors
>>> end seeColors
>>> seeColors(chosenColors)
>>
>> All of this off topic drama from you because I pointed to a simple app I wrote
>> and showed David what files it "scattered".
>
> DB talked about what he suggested were "nefarious" files and asked me
> to contact the dev.

On 14/04/2022 20:06, Snit wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2022 at 12:01:22 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <6c_5K.40796$4c1.36038@fx13.ams1>:
>
>> On 14/04/2022 18:26, Snit wrote:
>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 10:20:38 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <GJY5K.219272$Xa1.10315@fx10.ams1>:
>>>
>>>> On 14/04/2022 18:09, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 10:07:13 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <5xY5K.219270$Xa1.133467@fx10.ams1>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14/04/2022 16:53, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 2:43:22 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>> <_0S5K.20977$F4h.10947@fx07.ams1>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 19:29, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2022 at 11:15:40 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <glj5K.29795$ep1.5859@fx03.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 17:09, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2022 at 12:05:01 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> <xw95K.392829$Lc1.296469@fx12.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 00:29, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 3:07:48 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <UE15K.57939$3b1.40537@fx14.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2022 21:58, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2022 20:38, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will you explain WHY you are reluctant to contact the developer about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this matter? It won't cost anything more than a few minutes of your time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you write it up and if he's OK with the wording, go from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there? You're asking for his time, use less of it and convey the words
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *you* want to convey <shrug>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a 'techie'. I've already rattled JD's cage sufficiently for him
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to refund the price I paid for his software. Logic tells me that an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> honest man would not do that. I suspect that the use of EtreCheck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enables JD to manipulate the ASC forum posts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sigh... it never ends.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm suggesting that YOU compose the email sent to JD, asking the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions YOU want answered and Glasser, if he agrees, will send it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have written directly to JD on many occasions previously.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly, he fails to respond, even when I write to try to help him, viz:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://ibb.co/mJXpm0c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you get no responses on that type of email it sounds like he has poor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I'm aware, he's a one-man-band. Do you see him on LinkedIn?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I see only one person tied to EtreSoft there: Tess Pierce. I do not really use
>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn much, though, so maybe there are more I am missing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much for looking, Snit! 🙂
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This was news there, for me:-
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Board Member, Cultural & Creative App Development Board Member, Cultural
>>>>>>>>>> & Creative App Development
>>>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc
>>>>>>>>>> 2013 - Present · 9 yrs 4 mos
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc. is software development and consulting corporation that
>>>>>>>>>> has been in business, in both the USA and Canada, since 1997. We have
>>>>>>>>>> developed and shipped a number of consumer software tools for both
>>>>>>>>>> Macintosh and Windows systems. Our products are used by major
>>>>>>>>>> corporations, governments, educational institutions, and over half a
>>>>>>>>>> million people. Read more about our products here:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.etresoft.com/#products" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.etresoft.com/#products
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc. personnel have consulted with and worked for major
>>>>>>>>>> government agencies, militaries, and educational institutions. Etresoft,
>>>>>>>>>> Inc.’s work has evolved from databases, to satellite command and control
>>>>>>>>>> systems, to real-time simulators, to information science.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK, so they do a lot more than make than one piece of software.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you look today, you will find that that information has been removed!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even in the past seemed the page had missing content:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://web.archive.org/web/20060318024315/http://www.etresoft.com/products/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Odd.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We agree!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Something *IS* wrong with the whole Etresoft set-up. Maybe you can help
>>>>>>>> me find out what if you can find the time. Perhaps Steve will help too.
>>>>>>>> All I'm after is the truth and to stop 'bad guys' hurting others.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seems they have a lousy website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I took a screenshot. This information is plainly wrong:-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://david-b.imgbb.com
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not see the screenshot.
>>>>
>>>> Oops! Sorry! Try here:- https://ibb.co/RhqnSPX
>>>
>>> If you are curious you can see some of the history of that page:
>>>
>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20210501000000*/https://www.etresoft.com/#products
>>>
>>> Really the same thing as
>>>
>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20210501000000*/https://www.etresoft.com
>>>
>>> The key is:
>>>
>>> https://www.etresoft.com
>>>
>>> The # points to a place ON a page, not a different page. Odd to have the slash
>>> in front of it.
>>
>>
>> The Company (Inc) wasn't formed until 2015!
>>
>> https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/scr/cc/CorporationsCanada/fdrlCrpDtls.html?corpId=9212671&V_TOKEN=null&crpNm=Etresoft%20Inc&crpNmbr=&bsNmbr=
>>
>> Tess lied in her LinkedIn personal (now removed)
>
> They have been around since at least 1999.
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/19991127213247/http://www.etresoft.com/
>
> Could be they changed names or something. Not sure what is even being looked
> for here.

On Apr 14, 2022 at 12:41:43 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<XN_5K.22667$F4h.20087@fx07.ams1>:

> On 14/04/2022 20:06, Snit wrote:
>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 12:01:22 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <6c_5K.40796$4c1.36038@fx13.ams1>:
>>
>>> On 14/04/2022 18:26, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 10:20:38 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <GJY5K.219272$Xa1.10315@fx10.ams1>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 14/04/2022 18:09, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 10:07:13 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <5xY5K.219270$Xa1.133467@fx10.ams1>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 14/04/2022 16:53, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 2:43:22 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>> <_0S5K.20977$F4h.10947@fx07.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 19:29, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2022 at 11:15:40 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>> <glj5K.29795$ep1.5859@fx03.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 17:09, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2022 at 12:05:01 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> <xw95K.392829$Lc1.296469@fx12.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 00:29, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 3:07:48 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <UE15K.57939$3b1.40537@fx14.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2022 21:58, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2022 20:38, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will you explain WHY you are reluctant to contact the developer about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this matter? It won't cost anything more than a few minutes of your time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you write it up and if he's OK with the wording, go from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there? You're asking for his time, use less of it and convey the words
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *you* want to convey <shrug>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a 'techie'. I've already rattled JD's cage sufficiently for him
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to refund the price I paid for his software. Logic tells me that an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> honest man would not do that. I suspect that the use of EtreCheck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enables JD to manipulate the ASC forum posts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sigh... it never ends.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm suggesting that YOU compose the email sent to JD, asking the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions YOU want answered and Glasser, if he agrees, will send it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have written directly to JD on many occasions previously.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly, he fails to respond, even when I write to try to help him, viz:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://ibb.co/mJXpm0c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you get no responses on that type of email it sounds like he has poor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I'm aware, he's a one-man-band. Do you see him on LinkedIn?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I see only one person tied to EtreSoft there: Tess Pierce. I do not really use
>>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn much, though, so maybe there are more I am missing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much for looking, Snit! 🙂
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This was news there, for me:-
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Board Member, Cultural & Creative App Development Board Member, Cultural
>>>>>>>>>>> & Creative App Development
>>>>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc
>>>>>>>>>>> 2013 - Present · 9 yrs 4 mos
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc. is software development and consulting corporation that
>>>>>>>>>>> has been in business, in both the USA and Canada, since 1997. We have
>>>>>>>>>>> developed and shipped a number of consumer software tools for both
>>>>>>>>>>> Macintosh and Windows systems. Our products are used by major
>>>>>>>>>>> corporations, governments, educational institutions, and over half a
>>>>>>>>>>> million people. Read more about our products here:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.etresoft.com/#products" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.etresoft.com/#products
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc. personnel have consulted with and worked for major
>>>>>>>>>>> government agencies, militaries, and educational institutions. Etresoft,
>>>>>>>>>>> Inc.’s work has evolved from databases, to satellite command and control
>>>>>>>>>>> systems, to real-time simulators, to information science.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OK, so they do a lot more than make than one piece of software.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you look today, you will find that that information has been removed!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even in the past seemed the page had missing content:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://web.archive.org/web/20060318024315/http://www.etresoft.com/products/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Odd.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We agree!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Something *IS* wrong with the whole Etresoft set-up. Maybe you can help
>>>>>>>>> me find out what if you can find the time. Perhaps Steve will help too.
>>>>>>>>> All I'm after is the truth and to stop 'bad guys' hurting others.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Seems they have a lousy website.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I took a screenshot. This information is plainly wrong:-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://david-b.imgbb.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do not see the screenshot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oops! Sorry! Try here:- https://ibb.co/RhqnSPX
>>>>
>>>> If you are curious you can see some of the history of that page:
>>>>
>>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20210501000000*/https://www.etresoft.com/#products
>>>>
>>>> Really the same thing as
>>>>
>>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20210501000000*/https://www.etresoft.com
>>>>
>>>> The key is:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.etresoft.com
>>>>
>>>> The # points to a place ON a page, not a different page. Odd to have the slash
>>>> in front of it.
>>>
>>>
>>> The Company (Inc) wasn't formed until 2015!
>>>
>>> https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/scr/cc/CorporationsCanada/fdrlCrpDtls.html?corpId=9212671&V_TOKEN=null&crpNm=Etresoft%20Inc&crpNmbr=&bsNmbr=
>>>
>>> Tess lied in her LinkedIn personal (now removed)
>>
>> They have been around since at least 1999.
>>
>> https://web.archive.org/web/19991127213247/http://www.etresoft.com/
>>
>> Could be they changed names or something. Not sure what is even being looked
>> for here.
>
> Her LinkedIn information was incorrect. It has been removed since I
> spotted the 'error'. Did you spot that John Daniel was trading in Denver
> way-back? I wonder if he's a personal friend of Steve Carroll! :-D

On 2022-04-14, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 14/04/2022 20:06, Snit wrote:
>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 12:01:22 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <6c_5K.40796$4c1.36038@fx13.ams1>:
>>
>>> On 14/04/2022 18:26, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 10:20:38 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <GJY5K.219272$Xa1.10315@fx10.ams1>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 14/04/2022 18:09, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 10:07:13 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <5xY5K.219270$Xa1.133467@fx10.ams1>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 14/04/2022 16:53, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 2:43:22 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>> <_0S5K.20977$F4h.10947@fx07.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 19:29, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2022 at 11:15:40 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>> <glj5K.29795$ep1.5859@fx03.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 17:09, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2022 at 12:05:01 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> <xw95K.392829$Lc1.296469@fx12.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 00:29, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 3:07:48 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <UE15K.57939$3b1.40537@fx14.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2022 21:58, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2022 20:38, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will you explain WHY you are reluctant to contact the developer about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this matter? It won't cost anything more than a few minutes of your time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you write it up and if he's OK with the wording, go from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there? You're asking for his time, use less of it and convey the words
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *you* want to convey <shrug>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a 'techie'. I've already rattled JD's cage sufficiently for him
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to refund the price I paid for his software. Logic tells me that an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> honest man would not do that. I suspect that the use of EtreCheck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enables JD to manipulate the ASC forum posts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sigh... it never ends.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm suggesting that YOU compose the email sent to JD, asking the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions YOU want answered and Glasser, if he agrees, will send it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have written directly to JD on many occasions previously.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly, he fails to respond, even when I write to try to help him, viz:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://ibb.co/mJXpm0c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you get no responses on that type of email it sounds like he has poor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I'm aware, he's a one-man-band. Do you see him on LinkedIn?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I see only one person tied to EtreSoft there: Tess Pierce. I do not really use
>>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn much, though, so maybe there are more I am missing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much for looking, Snit! 🙂
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This was news there, for me:-
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Board Member, Cultural & Creative App Development Board Member, Cultural
>>>>>>>>>>> & Creative App Development
>>>>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc
>>>>>>>>>>> 2013 - Present · 9 yrs 4 mos
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc. is software development and consulting corporation that
>>>>>>>>>>> has been in business, in both the USA and Canada, since 1997. We have
>>>>>>>>>>> developed and shipped a number of consumer software tools for both
>>>>>>>>>>> Macintosh and Windows systems. Our products are used by major
>>>>>>>>>>> corporations, governments, educational institutions, and over half a
>>>>>>>>>>> million people. Read more about our products here:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.etresoft.com/#products" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.etresoft.com/#products
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc. personnel have consulted with and worked for major
>>>>>>>>>>> government agencies, militaries, and educational institutions. Etresoft,
>>>>>>>>>>> Inc.’s work has evolved from databases, to satellite command and control
>>>>>>>>>>> systems, to real-time simulators, to information science.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OK, so they do a lot more than make than one piece of software.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you look today, you will find that that information has been removed!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even in the past seemed the page had missing content:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://web.archive.org/web/20060318024315/http://www.etresoft.com/products/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Odd.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We agree!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Something *IS* wrong with the whole Etresoft set-up. Maybe you can help
>>>>>>>>> me find out what if you can find the time. Perhaps Steve will help too.
>>>>>>>>> All I'm after is the truth and to stop 'bad guys' hurting others.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Seems they have a lousy website.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I took a screenshot. This information is plainly wrong:-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://david-b.imgbb.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do not see the screenshot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oops! Sorry! Try here:- https://ibb.co/RhqnSPX
>>>>
>>>> If you are curious you can see some of the history of that page:
>>>>
>>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20210501000000*/https://www.etresoft.com/#products
>>>>
>>>> Really the same thing as
>>>>
>>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20210501000000*/https://www.etresoft.com
>>>>
>>>> The key is:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.etresoft.com
>>>>
>>>> The # points to a place ON a page, not a different page. Odd to have the slash
>>>> in front of it.
>>>
>>>
>>> The Company (Inc) wasn't formed until 2015!
>>>
>>> https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/scr/cc/CorporationsCanada/fdrlCrpDtls.html?corpId=9212671&V_TOKEN=null&crpNm=Etresoft%20Inc&crpNmbr=&bsNmbr=
>>>
>>> Tess lied in her LinkedIn personal (now removed)
>>
>> They have been around since at least 1999.
>>
>> https://web.archive.org/web/19991127213247/http://www.etresoft.com/
>>
>> Could be they changed names or something. Not sure what is even being looked
>> for here.

On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2022 at 12:31:05 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
><t39spo$jh7$3@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>
>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 11:54:49 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>> <t39qlp$jh7$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-04-14, Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 11:22:19 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>>>>> <t39oor$5d0$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 9:57:36 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>>>>>>> <t39jq0$dt9$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 9:22:18 AM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
>>>>>>>>>> <t39hnq$dt9$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not KNOW why they are still on my computer, nor do I know whether
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or not they are nefarious.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, that hasn't stopped you from trying to slime people, to the point
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where you get banned/shunned.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not 'sliming' anyone. I'm trying to establish the facts - the truth!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How would you feel about contacting JD and discussing this whole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scenario with him?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've no need, I know how the files get there and what they generally do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've stayed out of it because you ignored me the last time I tried to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help you. There's no upside for me as you don't listen anyway: that, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get your 'friend', Glasser, crawling all over the conversation with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his childish bullsh*t. I'm still waiting for the hypocrite to help you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with what you asked for in the last thread he turned into a pile of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sh*t. I will only ever help you when I feel like it and I'll do so in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the manner I believe you deserve (designed to make YOU do some of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work). I'll say it AGAIN: IMO, you and your 'friend' are lucky anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever responds to you on any topic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can understand your point of view
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You, ignoring my help and the crawler doing his crawling, isn't a "point
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of view", it's a fact anyone can verify.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and fully appreciate your modus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operandi. However, I acknowledge that I do not have, nor ever will have,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the technical skills required to dig deep enough to suss out anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> untoward. I cannot make you do anything at all, but I /would/ appreciate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You say that, yet, you ignored my previous attempts to help you, as well
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as the attempts of other posters. You're clearly lying here, you only
>>>>>>>>>>>>> want the 'help' you believe would aid you in pursuing your stalking
>>>>>>>>>>>>> agenda. The idea that you seem to believe you've hidden this fact is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> goofy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As predicted: you are pretending your games are designed to "help"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <t24ilh$r8h$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <t2sav9$8u8$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <t2pkhn$u8c$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <t27q3q$fl8$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <t2su9c$qb2$6@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <t2ssmt$qb2$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Those aren't "games", they're reality. The only game is yours, where you
>>>>>>>>>>> pretend reality is a "game".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- as if you were asked to help in this area.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Up a paragraph or so, to me:
>>>>>>>>>>> "...but I /would/ appreciate your help." - DB
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That was not in reference to my code for selecting color. Context matters.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <3GX5K.247461$H_t7.15928@fx40.iad>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <shrug>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your defense of your nonsense is you could not understand the context of his
>>>>>>>> request.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So... in what you call your 'mind', he was talking about color
>>>>>>> selection? Wow, I've always known you 'had it bad' when it came to
>>>>>>> reading and reality but this takes it to a new level. In any event, I
>>>>>>> give him *my* 'app' to use as he wishes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> set startingColor to choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535}
>>>>>>> set chosenColor to {}
>>>>>>> repeat with colorItem in startingColor
>>>>>>> set colorItem to round colorItem / 256
>>>>>>> copy colorItem to end of chosenColor
>>>>>>> end repeat
>>>>>>> set the clipboard to "(" & item 1 of chosenColor & "," & item 2 of chosenColor
>>>>>>> & "," & item 3 of chosenColor & ")"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I *think* I've been using this since 2015 for web dev... can't recall
>>>>>>> exactly. I could be wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is different code than you used before...
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't give him all the code before, in fact, I still haven't. Here's
>>>>> a bit more that he might find useful:
>>>>>
>>>>> property chosenColors : {}
>>>>> set startingColor to choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535}
>>>>> set chosenColor to {}
>>>>> repeat with colorItem in startingColor
>>>>> set colorItem to round colorItem / 256
>>>>> copy colorItem to end of chosenColor
>>>>> copy colorItem to end of chosenColors
>>>>> end repeat
>>>>> set the clipboard to "(" & item 1 of chosenColor & "," & item 2 of
>>>>> chosenColor & "," & item 3 of chosenColor & ")"
>>>>> on seeColors(chosenColors)
>>>>> copy "-" to end of chosenColors
>>>>> log chosenColors
>>>>> end seeColors
>>>>> seeColors(chosenColors)
>>>>>
>>>>> He can store colors as many times as he runs it.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://i.ibb.co/3MMvmQ1/db-picker.png>
>>>>
>>>> A more efficient version (Doh! ;)
>>>>
>>>> property chosenColors : {}
>>>> set startingColor to choose color default color {65535, 65535, 65535}
>>>> repeat with colorItem in startingColor
>>>> set colorItem to round colorItem / 256
>>>> copy colorItem to end of chosenColors
>>>> end repeat
>>>> set the clipboard to "(" & item 1 of chosenColors & "," & item 2 of
>>>> chosenColors & "," & item 3 of chosenColors & ")"
>>>> on seeColors(chosenColors)
>>>> copy "-" to end of chosenColors
>>>> log chosenColors
>>>> end seeColors
>>>> seeColors(chosenColors)
>>>
>>> All of this off topic drama from you because I pointed to a simple app I wrote
>>> and showed David what files it "scattered".
>>
>> DB talked about what he suggested were "nefarious" files and asked me
>> to contact the dev.
>
> And this

On Apr 14, 2022 at 1:13:06 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t39v8i$o7j$2@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

>>> DB talked about what he suggested were "nefarious" files and asked me
>>> to contact the dev.
>>
>> And this excuses your drama and trolling?
>
> ... highlights the fact that he did what you falsely claimed he didn't
> do.

More of your drama. And keep in mind what you responded to: I showed a color
selecting AppleScript app NOT to show the code but to show it also "scatters"
some files.

Another prediction: within the next 48 hours you will be whining I am paying
attention to others who troll and not just to you.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 15:19:47 -0000 (UTC), Steve Carroll <"Steve
Carroll"@noSPAM.none> wrote:

>On 2022-04-14, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>(snip)
>
>>> OK, so they do a lot more than make than one piece of software.
>>
>> If you look today, you will find that that information has been removed!
>>
>> Something *IS* wrong with the whole Etresoft set-up. Maybe you can help
>> me find out what if you can find the time. Perhaps Steve will help too.
>> All I'm after is the truth and to stop 'bad guys' hurting others.
>
>Why would I help you stalk an innocent person? Are you so self focused
>and wrapped up in your goofy bullsh*t it makes sense to you that someone
>you view as your enemy would help you? If you're trying to convince
>people you gave up drinking, this isn't the way.

Why, of course he gave up drinking. How else would he be able to
copy/paste a date string that he says 'proves' that he has, indeed,
given up drinking. If he was still drinking as heavily as he used to,
would he be able to copy/paste that date? I ask you, would he?

/s

He's not fooling anyone, probably not even his new 'friend'.

On Apr 14, 2022 at 1:33:22 PM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
<311h5hporqcct6ukcl0ugbff46ph29sgec@4ax.com>:

> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 15:19:47 -0000 (UTC), Steve Carroll
> <"SteveCarroll"@noSPAM.none> wrote:
>
>> On 2022-04-14, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>>>> OK, so they do a lot more than make than one piece of software.
>>>
>>> If you look today, you will find that that information has been removed!
>>>
>>> Something *IS* wrong with the whole Etresoft set-up. Maybe you can help
>>> me find out what if you can find the time. Perhaps Steve will help too.
>>> All I'm after is the truth and to stop 'bad guys' hurting others.
>>
>> Why would I help you stalk an innocent person? Are you so self focused
>> and wrapped up in your goofy bullsh*t it makes sense to you that someone
>> you view as your enemy would help you? If you're trying to convince
>> people you gave up drinking, this isn't the way.
>
> Why, of course he gave up drinking.

Based on what we know: correct.

> How else would he be able to
> copy/paste a date string that he says 'proves' that he has, indeed,
> given up drinking. If he was still drinking as heavily as he used to,
> would he be able to copy/paste that date? I ask you, would he?
>
> /s
>
> He's not fooling anyone, probably not even his new 'friend'.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 16:47:51 -0000 (UTC), Steve Carroll <"Steve
Carroll"@noSPAM.none> wrote:

>On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 2:43:22 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>><_0S5K.20977$F4h.10947@fx07.ams1>:
>>
>>> On 12/04/2022 19:29, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Apr 12, 2022 at 11:15:40 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <glj5K.29795$ep1.5859@fx03.ams1>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/04/2022 17:09, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2022 at 12:05:01 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <xw95K.392829$Lc1.296469@fx12.ams1>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 00:29, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 3:07:48 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>> <UE15K.57939$3b1.40537@fx14.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2022 21:58, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2022 20:38, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will you explain WHY you are reluctant to contact the developer about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this matter? It won't cost anything more than a few minutes of your time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you write it up and if he's OK with the wording, go from
>>>>>>>>>>>> there? You're asking for his time, use less of it and convey the words
>>>>>>>>>>>> *you* want to convey <shrug>.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a 'techie'. I've already rattled JD's cage sufficiently for him
>>>>>>>>>>> to refund the price I paid for his software. Logic tells me that an
>>>>>>>>>>> honest man would not do that. I suspect that the use of EtreCheck
>>>>>>>>>>> enables JD to manipulate the ASC forum posts.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sigh... it never ends.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm suggesting that YOU compose the email sent to JD, asking the
>>>>>>>>>> questions YOU want answered and Glasser, if he agrees, will send it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have written directly to JD on many occasions previously.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sadly, he fails to respond, even when I write to try to help him, viz:-
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://ibb.co/mJXpm0c
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you get no responses on that type of email it sounds like he has poor
>>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As far as I'm aware, he's a one-man-band. Do you see him on LinkedIn?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see only one person tied to EtreSoft there: Tess Pierce. I do not really use
>>>>>> LinkedIn much, though, so maybe there are more I am missing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you so much for looking, Snit! 🙂
>>>>>
>>>>> This was news there, for me:-
>>>>>
>>>>> Board Member, Cultural & Creative App Development Board Member, Cultural
>>>>> & Creative App Development
>>>>> Etresoft, Inc
>>>>> 2013 - Present · 9 yrs 4 mos
>>>>>
>>>>> Etresoft, Inc. is software development and consulting corporation that
>>>>> has been in business, in both the USA and Canada, since 1997. We have
>>>>> developed and shipped a number of consumer software tools for both
>>>>> Macintosh and Windows systems. Our products are used by major
>>>>> corporations, governments, educational institutions, and over half a
>>>>> million people. Read more about our products here:
>>>>> https://www.etresoft.com/#products
>>>>>
>>>>> Etresoft, Inc. personnel have consulted with and worked for major
>>>>> government agencies, militaries, and educational institutions. Etresoft,
>>>>> Inc.’s work has evolved from databases, to satellite command and control
>>>>> systems, to real-time simulators, to information science.
>>>>
>>>> OK, so they do a lot more than make than one piece of software.
>>>
>>> If you look today, you will find that that information has been removed!
>>
>> Even in the past seemed the page had missing content:
>>
>> http://web.archive.org/web/20060318024315/http://www.etresoft.com/products/
>>
>> Odd.
>
>Not an "investigator" among ya!

They're like two monkeys trying to f**k a football.

On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 18:07:13 +0100, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>I took a screenshot.

You sound like the two-year-old who comes out of the bathroom and says,
"Mommy, I made a poop!"

Of course you took a screenshot. You do that on days that end in 'y'.

On Apr 14, 2022 at 1:51:42 PM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
<i72h5h5f1elh6olm7ruv53p80q2o7d2nso@4ax.com>:

> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 18:07:13 +0100, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> I took a screenshot.
>
> You sound like the two-year-old who comes out of the bathroom and says,
> "Mommy, I made a poop!"

Curious how you think of poop when people speak of screenshots. I do NOT want
to see what is on your screen!

>
> Of course you took a screenshot. You do that on days that end in 'y'.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2022 at 1:33:22 PM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
><311h5hporqcct6ukcl0ugbff46ph29sgec@4ax.com>:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 15:19:47 -0000 (UTC), Steve Carroll
>> <"SteveCarroll"@noSPAM.none> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-04-14, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>>
>>>>> OK, so they do a lot more than make than one piece of software.
>>>>
>>>> If you look today, you will find that that information has been removed!
>>>>
>>>> Something *IS* wrong with the whole Etresoft set-up. Maybe you can help
>>>> me find out what if you can find the time. Perhaps Steve will help too.
>>>> All I'm after is the truth and to stop 'bad guys' hurting others.
>>>
>>> Why would I help you stalk an innocent person? Are you so self focused
>>> and wrapped up in your goofy bullsh*t it makes sense to you that someone
>>> you view as your enemy would help you? If you're trying to convince
>>> people you gave up drinking, this isn't the way.
>>
>> Why, of course he gave up drinking.
>
> Based on what we know: correct.

Define what "we" "know", as opposed to what DB told 'us'.

>> How else would he be able to
>> copy/paste a date string that he says 'proves' that he has, indeed,
>> given up drinking. If he was still drinking as heavily as he used to,
>> would he be able to copy/paste that date? I ask you, would he?
>>
>> /s
>>
>> He's not fooling anyone, probably not even his new 'friend'.

Given the 'quality' of the 'cover' his 'friend' is attempting to
provide him, I'd tend to agree.

On 2022-04-14, Kelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 16:47:51 -0000 (UTC), Steve Carroll <"Steve
> Carroll"@noSPAM.none> wrote:
>
>>On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 2:43:22 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>><_0S5K.20977$F4h.10947@fx07.ams1>:
>>>
>>>> On 12/04/2022 19:29, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 12, 2022 at 11:15:40 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <glj5K.29795$ep1.5859@fx03.ams1>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 17:09, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2022 at 12:05:01 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>> <xw95K.392829$Lc1.296469@fx12.ams1>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 00:29, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 3:07:48 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <UE15K.57939$3b1.40537@fx14.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2022 21:58, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2022 20:38, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will you explain WHY you are reluctant to contact the developer about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this matter? It won't cost anything more than a few minutes of your time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you write it up and if he's OK with the wording, go from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there? You're asking for his time, use less of it and convey the words
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *you* want to convey <shrug>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a 'techie'. I've already rattled JD's cage sufficiently for him
>>>>>>>>>>>> to refund the price I paid for his software. Logic tells me that an
>>>>>>>>>>>> honest man would not do that. I suspect that the use of EtreCheck
>>>>>>>>>>>> enables JD to manipulate the ASC forum posts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sigh... it never ends.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm suggesting that YOU compose the email sent to JD, asking the
>>>>>>>>>>> questions YOU want answered and Glasser, if he agrees, will send it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have written directly to JD on many occasions previously.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sadly, he fails to respond, even when I write to try to help him, viz:-
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://ibb.co/mJXpm0c
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you get no responses on that type of email it sounds like he has poor
>>>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As far as I'm aware, he's a one-man-band. Do you see him on LinkedIn?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see only one person tied to EtreSoft there: Tess Pierce. I do not really use
>>>>>>> LinkedIn much, though, so maybe there are more I am missing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you so much for looking, Snit! 🙂
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was news there, for me:-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Board Member, Cultural & Creative App Development Board Member, Cultural
>>>>>> & Creative App Development
>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc
>>>>>> 2013 - Present · 9 yrs 4 mos
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc. is software development and consulting corporation that
>>>>>> has been in business, in both the USA and Canada, since 1997. We have
>>>>>> developed and shipped a number of consumer software tools for both
>>>>>> Macintosh and Windows systems. Our products are used by major
>>>>>> corporations, governments, educational institutions, and over half a
>>>>>> million people. Read more about our products here:
>>>>>> https://www.etresoft.com/#products
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc. personnel have consulted with and worked for major
>>>>>> government agencies, militaries, and educational institutions. Etresoft,
>>>>>> Inc.’s work has evolved from databases, to satellite command and control
>>>>>> systems, to real-time simulators, to information science.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, so they do a lot more than make than one piece of software.
>>>>
>>>> If you look today, you will find that that information has been removed!
>>>
>>> Even in the past seemed the page had missing content:
>>>
>>> http://web.archive.org/web/20060318024315/http://www.etresoft.com/products/
>>>
>>> Odd.
>>
>>Not an "investigator" among ya!
>
> They're like two monkeys trying to f**k a football.

Hehe ;)

On Apr 14, 2022 at 2:03:23 PM MST, "Steve Carroll" wrote
<t3a26r$f1a$1@fretwizzer.eternal-september.org>:

>>>
>>> Why, of course he gave up drinking.
>>
>> Based on what we know: correct.
>
> Define what "we" "know", as opposed to what DB told 'us'.

I do not do as you do and stalk people. We know of his life what he has
shared, just as we know you focus on substance abuse issues based on what you
share. There is FAR more evidence of you having substance abuse issues than
there is of him currently having there same. Remember what Ryan Sullivan said
of you:

Ryan Sullivan <sf4adq$f7v$1@gioia.aioe.org>:
-----
My father is jealous of my success in being sober since Nov 2
2018. He has not been able to stop that addiction nor his
addiction to the guy who goes by Snit in these groups.

I have no shame in being sober and am proud of how far I have
gotten considering the influences I had growing up. Does not stop
him from bringing it up to Adriana any time he sees her as he
tries to break us up.

I do not know who you are Snit, but my father is not a mentally
well man. He talks about you all the time. You are right that he
is wasting his life on whatever petty battle he has with you.
-----

Ryan Sullivan <sf4b12$l3u$1@gioia.aioe.org>
-----
My father has shown me this bot running. It is his. He speaks of
using it to prove to Snit he can make a better bot.
-----

Ryan Sullivan <sf4b2v$l3u$2@gioia.aioe.org>
-----
Is this about that Prescott site you talk about and ask us if your
work is better?
-----

Ryan Sullivan <sf6j6k$4fn$1@gioia.aioe.org>:
-----
Why could you not spend as much time focused on me and Steve as
you do on this guy online?
-----

Ryan Sullivan <sf6j6v$4fn$2@gioia.aioe.org>:
-----
You played a few gigs and grifted as you got your kids to drink.
You're a piece of shit father.
-----

Ryan Sullivan <XnsADB0B5EAF75DA443322@46.165.242.75>
-----
Unfortunately my father who posts here as Steve Carroll is a
mentally ill person.

He abuses alcohol and drugs as well and is a controil freak
maniac.

My mom left him years ago due to his substance abuse.

So my dad has been stalking snit Michael Glasser for years. I do
not know why but it is a major part of his life. My advice is to
ignore Steve Carroll and his many nyms.
-----

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 2022-04-14, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2022 at 12:41:43 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
><XN_5K.22667$F4h.20087@fx07.ams1>:
>
>> On 14/04/2022 20:06, Snit wrote:
>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 12:01:22 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <6c_5K.40796$4c1.36038@fx13.ams1>:
>>>
>>>> On 14/04/2022 18:26, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 10:20:38 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <GJY5K.219272$Xa1.10315@fx10.ams1>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14/04/2022 18:09, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 10:07:13 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>> <5xY5K.219270$Xa1.133467@fx10.ams1>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 14/04/2022 16:53, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2022 at 2:43:22 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <_0S5K.20977$F4h.10947@fx07.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 19:29, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2022 at 11:15:40 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> <glj5K.29795$ep1.5859@fx03.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 17:09, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2022 at 12:05:01 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <xw95K.392829$Lc1.296469@fx12.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2022 00:29, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2022 at 3:07:48 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <UE15K.57939$3b1.40537@fx14.ams1>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2022 21:58, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2022 20:38, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-04-11, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will you explain WHY you are reluctant to contact the developer about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this matter? It won't cost anything more than a few minutes of your time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you write it up and if he's OK with the wording, go from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there? You're asking for his time, use less of it and convey the words
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *you* want to convey <shrug>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a 'techie'. I've already rattled JD's cage sufficiently for him
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to refund the price I paid for his software. Logic tells me that an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> honest man would not do that. I suspect that the use of EtreCheck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enables JD to manipulate the ASC forum posts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sigh... it never ends.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm suggesting that YOU compose the email sent to JD, asking the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions YOU want answered and Glasser, if he agrees, will send it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have written directly to JD on many occasions previously.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly, he fails to respond, even when I write to try to help him, viz:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://ibb.co/mJXpm0c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you get no responses on that type of email it sounds like he has poor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I'm aware, he's a one-man-band. Do you see him on LinkedIn?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see only one person tied to EtreSoft there: Tess Pierce. I do not really use
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn much, though, so maybe there are more I am missing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you so much for looking, Snit! 🙂
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This was news there, for me:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Board Member, Cultural & Creative App Development Board Member, Cultural
>>>>>>>>>>>> & Creative App Development
>>>>>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013 - Present · 9 yrs 4 mos
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc. is software development and consulting corporation that
>>>>>>>>>>>> has been in business, in both the USA and Canada, since 1997. We have
>>>>>>>>>>>> developed and shipped a number of consumer software tools for both
>>>>>>>>>>>> Macintosh and Windows systems. Our products are used by major
>>>>>>>>>>>> corporations, governments, educational institutions, and over half a
>>>>>>>>>>>> million people. Read more about our products here:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.etresoft.com/#products" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.etresoft.com/#products
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Etresoft, Inc. personnel have consulted with and worked for major
>>>>>>>>>>>> government agencies, militaries, and educational institutions. Etresoft,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Inc.’s work has evolved from databases, to satellite command and control
>>>>>>>>>>>> systems, to real-time simulators, to information science.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> OK, so they do a lot more than make than one piece of software.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you look today, you will find that that information has been removed!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even in the past seemed the page had missing content:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://web.archive.org/web/20060318024315/http://www.etresoft.com/products/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Odd.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We agree!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Something *IS* wrong with the whole Etresoft set-up. Maybe you can help
>>>>>>>>>> me find out what if you can find the time. Perhaps Steve will help too.
>>>>>>>>>> All I'm after is the truth and to stop 'bad guys' hurting others.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Seems they have a lousy website.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I took a screenshot. This information is plainly wrong:-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://david-b.imgbb.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do not see the screenshot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oops! Sorry! Try here:- https://ibb.co/RhqnSPX
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are curious you can see some of the history of that page:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20210501000000*/https://www.etresoft.com/#products
>>>>>
>>>>> Really the same thing as
>>>>>
>>>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20210501000000*/https://www.etresoft.com
>>>>>
>>>>> The key is:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.etresoft.com
>>>>>
>>>>> The # points to a place ON a page, not a different page. Odd to have the slash
>>>>> in front of it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Company (Inc) wasn't formed until 2015!
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/scr/cc/CorporationsCanada/fdrlCrpDtls.html?corpId=9212671&V_TOKEN=null&crpNm=Etresoft%20Inc&crpNmbr=&bsNmbr=
>>>>
>>>> Tess lied in her LinkedIn personal (now removed)
>>>
>>> They have been around since at least 1999.
>>>
>>> https://web.archive.org/web/19991127213247/http://www.etresoft.com/
>>>
>>> Could be they changed names or something. Not sure what is even being looked
>>> for here.
>>
>> Her LinkedIn information was incorrect. It has been removed since I
>> spotted the 'error'. Did you spot that John Daniel was trading in Denver
>> way-back? I wonder if he's a personal friend of Steve Carroll! :-D
>
> If that is the case THEN I would be more suspicious of wrong doing.
>
>>
>> Etresoft is currently located in a cozy little post office box. The
>> address is:
>>
>> Etresoft
>> P.O. Box 202401
>> Denver, CO 80220-8401
>> USA
>
> Maybe it is Carroll. :)