On 25/01/2022 7:29 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 25/01/2022 6:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 24/01/2022 7:01 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9XOvOP7eW0
>>>
>>>
>> A 100E side valve Anglia, my old man had 2 of those. He traded his
>> 1940s Austin 10 for the first one, the second one, he went to the
>> dealers to get a tail light globe replaced and came back with a new
>> car. The second one got traded for a 105E Anglia.
>
> Both were remarkable cunts of cars.

My old man wasn't really a car person, a car was just a thing to get
from A to B. He never worked on any of his other than to check the water
and oil level which he did every day.

I never drove the 100E, I was too young for a licence, I drove the 105E
it seemed OK until the first time I drove a mini.

I once went to a talk by a 50s racing driver (can't remember his name)
he raced 100E engined cars.For some reason Ford siamesed the inlet
ports, but had 4 exhaust ports, so he had a new camshaft made reversing
the valve functions and hung 4 carbies on it. I suppose that, in the
50s, you had to make do with what you had.

On 26/01/2022 1:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 26/01/2022 11:08 am, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 26/01/2022 11:36 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 26/01/2022 12:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 26/1/2022 11:54 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 26/01/2022 8:39 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>>> On 26/01/2022 10:28 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>> On 26/1/2022 10:39 am, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The company I did my apprenticeship with had a 1965 J5 Bedford,
>>>>>>>> no PS but from what I remember it wasn't too bad to drive.
>>>>>>>> Clutch linkage used to occasionally fall off but it was very
>>>>>>>> easy to shift gears without the clutch so when it happened you
>>>>>>>> just kept driving:-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One would have to ask, why did you not *fix* the clutch linkage?
>>>>>>> You are a *mechanic, right? Done a lot of work on J2, J3, J5, TK
>>>>>>> & SB Bedfords in my time and can't recall them ever having an
>>>>>>> issue with clutch linkages.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have to chime in with your 2 cents worth don't you. Note he
>>>>>> stated he did his apprenticeship with them. Did it ever occur to
>>>>>> you that he was an employee at the time and the decision to repair
>>>>>> the vehicle was NOT his to make. FFS you make any excuse to
>>>>>> belittle anyone and everyone who doesn't bow at your feet. You are
>>>>>> a fuckwit who couldn't make it as a mechanic and went to teaching
>>>>>> which you failed at as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> How exactly did he fail at teaching?
>>>>>
>>>> He is doing a Darren and trying to promulgate a *lie*.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> straight out of Goebbel's  manual..
>>>
>> A classic triple, an attack, and two agreements, only alv is missing
>> maybe sleeping off his last meal.
>
> "You are a fuckwit who couldn't make it as a mechanic and went to
> teaching which you failed at as well."
>
> So clearly an (unfounded) attack so apart from you who else agrees?
>
Don't know about failings as a teacher, but the old saying goes "Those
who can - do, those who can't - teach". All the instructors at the tech
that I went to were recycled engineers who couldn't keep up with the
pace of change in electronics.

On 26/01/2022 1:52 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 25/01/2022 7:29 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 25/01/2022 6:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 24/01/2022 7:01 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9XOvOP7eW0
>>>>
>>>>
>>> A 100E side valve Anglia, my old man had 2 of those. He traded his
>>> 1940s Austin 10 for the first one, the second one, he went to the
>>> dealers to get a tail light globe replaced and came back with a new
>>> car. The second one got traded for a 105E Anglia.
>>
>> Both were remarkable cunts of cars.
>
> My old man wasn't really a car person, a car was just a thing to get
> from A to B. He never worked on any of his other than to check the water
> and oil level which he did every day.
>
> I never drove the 100E, I was too young for a licence, I drove the 105E
> it seemed OK until the first time I drove a mini.
>
> I once went to a talk by a 50s racing driver (can't remember his name)
> he raced 100E engined cars.For some reason Ford siamesed the inlet
> ports, but had 4 exhaust ports, so he had a new camshaft made reversing
> the valve functions and hung 4 carbies on it. I suppose that, in the
> 50s, you had to make do with what you had.

I remembered his name

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Mays

On 26/1/2022 2:52 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 25/01/2022 7:29 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 25/01/2022 6:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 24/01/2022 7:01 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9XOvOP7eW0
>>>>
>>>>
>>> A 100E side valve Anglia, my old man had 2 of those. He traded his
>>> 1940s Austin 10 for the first one, the second one, he went to the
>>> dealers to get a tail light globe replaced and came back with a new
>>> car. The second one got traded for a 105E Anglia.
>>
>> Both were remarkable cunts of cars.
>
> My old man wasn't really a car person, a car was just a thing to get
> from A to B. He never worked on any of his other than to check the water
> and oil level which he did every day.
>
> I never drove the 100E, I was too young for a licence, I drove the 105E
> it seemed OK until the first time I drove a mini.
>
> I once went to a talk by a 50s racing driver (can't remember his name)
> he raced 100E engined cars.For some reason Ford siamesed the inlet

Space considerations. Quite often the centre pair of exhaust ports are
also siamesed. Siamesed intake ports aren't an issue if you want
smoothness over peakiness.

> ports, but had 4 exhaust ports, so he had a new camshaft made reversing
> the valve functions and hung 4 carbies on it. I suppose that, in the
> 50s, you had to make do with what you had.

For racing, that makes sense. You can tune the wavelengths of the
individual intake ports but you end up with a much narrower power band,
especially if you put a lumpy cam with lots of overlap in it. Makes it
unsuited for street use, especially with a 3 speed gearbox.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 26/1/22 2:43 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 25/01/2022 9:15 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>
>> Oldest son is building a Lotus 7 replica using an MX5 donor, used most
>> of the MX5 including all the front and rear suspension, without a
>> heavy steel body like the Anglia it will be relatively light so it
>> should go well.
>> Its soon to be delivered to me to be wired up which is going to be a
>> fun project:-)
>
> imgur.com/a/JRfyPww
>
> The most disgusting Miata (MX-5) in the world, not only a torn back
> window, hand painted (badly) in matt black but check out the red cables.
> One comes from the boot (where the battery resides) and goes in through
> the passenger window (it's LHD), the second emerges from the passenger
> window and goes into the engine bay. Both terminated in bare ends on the
> passenger seat, twist and go - what could be simpler :)

LOL, the stupidity of some people never ceases to amaze.

--
Daryl

On 26/1/2022 3:14 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 26/01/2022 1:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 26/01/2022 11:08 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 26/01/2022 11:36 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 26/01/2022 12:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 26/1/2022 11:54 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 26/01/2022 8:39 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>>>> On 26/01/2022 10:28 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 26/1/2022 10:39 am, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The company I did my apprenticeship with had a 1965 J5 Bedford,
>>>>>>>>> no PS but from what I remember it wasn't too bad to drive.
>>>>>>>>> Clutch linkage used to occasionally fall off but it was very
>>>>>>>>> easy to shift gears without the clutch so when it happened you
>>>>>>>>> just kept driving:-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One would have to ask, why did you not *fix* the clutch linkage?
>>>>>>>> You are a *mechanic, right? Done a lot of work on J2, J3, J5, TK
>>>>>>>> & SB Bedfords in my time and can't recall them ever having an
>>>>>>>> issue with clutch linkages.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have to chime in with your 2 cents worth don't you. Note he
>>>>>>> stated he did his apprenticeship with them. Did it ever occur to
>>>>>>> you that he was an employee at the time and the decision to
>>>>>>> repair the vehicle was NOT his to make. FFS you make any excuse
>>>>>>> to belittle anyone and everyone who doesn't bow at your feet. You
>>>>>>> are a fuckwit who couldn't make it as a mechanic and went to
>>>>>>> teaching which you failed at as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How exactly did he fail at teaching?
>>>>>>
>>>>> He is doing a Darren and trying to promulgate a *lie*.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> straight out of Goebbel's  manual..
>>>>
>>> A classic triple, an attack, and two agreements, only alv is missing
>>> maybe sleeping off his last meal.
>>
>> "You are a fuckwit who couldn't make it as a mechanic and went to
>> teaching which you failed at as well."
>>
>> So clearly an (unfounded) attack so apart from you who else agrees?
>>
> Don't know about failings as a teacher, but the old saying goes "Those
> who can - do, those who can't - teach". All the instructors at the tech
> that I went to were recycled engineers who couldn't keep up with the
> pace of change in electronics.

So I was at a distinct advantage then. When cars went to electronics and
computers, I had a very good handle on computers (it was what got me to
Richmond) and had no issues with electronics or electrical. Lots of
mechanics aren't too good with electrical.

Also, teachers in automotive were selected for, among other attributes,
ability to cope with change and ability to cope with computers. What
also went down extremely favourably was the applicants desire to extend
and enhance trade knowledge. In fact, the general requirement was the
post trade automotive technicians course, which I didn't have. My resume
showed clearly that *change* wasn't an issue for me and my diesel
fitters certificate plus other short courses substituted for the lack of
a technician's certificate.

What was also plugged, both at teacher's college and on the job, was the
need to adapt to new technology - we were constantly being hammered with
that. To that end, we teachers did lots of dealer upgrade courses and
professional development in our trade skills which included time spent
in the workplace - all in the name of keeping our trade skills up to date.

FWIW, I knew a few electronics teachers from Box Hill TAFE and they
certainly weren't behind the 8 ball in their trade skills. All I can say
is *your experience* didn't reflect *my reality*.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 26/1/22 2:52 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 25/01/2022 7:29 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 25/01/2022 6:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 24/01/2022 7:01 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9XOvOP7eW0
>>>>
>>>>
>>> A 100E side valve Anglia, my old man had 2 of those. He traded his
>>> 1940s Austin 10 for the first one, the second one, he went to the
>>> dealers to get a tail light globe replaced and came back with a new
>>> car. The second one got traded for a 105E Anglia.
>>
>> Both were remarkable cunts of cars.
>
> My old man wasn't really a car person,

Neither was mine.
The first car he owned that I remember was a 1949 Ford Prefect most
likely because at the time he couldn't afford anything better.
It was replaced with an FC Holden which was a major upgrade:-)

a car was just a thing to get
> from A to B. He never worked on any of his other than to check the water
> and oil level which he did every day.

Mine was the same, car mostly used to get to and from work.
A lot of people where we lived didn't have cars but on the plus side it
was only a 10min walk to the railway station.

--
Daryl

On 1/26/2022 3:14 PM, keithr0 wrote:
> On 26/01/2022 1:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 26/01/2022 11:08 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 26/01/2022 11:36 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 26/01/2022 12:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 26/1/2022 11:54 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 26/01/2022 8:39 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>>>> On 26/01/2022 10:28 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 26/1/2022 10:39 am, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The company I did my apprenticeship with had a 1965 J5 Bedford,
>>>>>>>>> no PS but from what I remember it wasn't too bad to drive.
>>>>>>>>> Clutch linkage used to occasionally fall off but it was very
>>>>>>>>> easy to shift gears without the clutch so when it happened you
>>>>>>>>> just kept driving:-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One would have to ask, why did you not *fix* the clutch linkage?
>>>>>>>> You are a *mechanic, right? Done a lot of work on J2, J3, J5, TK
>>>>>>>> & SB Bedfords in my time and can't recall them ever having an
>>>>>>>> issue with clutch linkages.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have to chime in with your 2 cents worth don't you. Note he
>>>>>>> stated he did his apprenticeship with them. Did it ever occur to
>>>>>>> you that he was an employee at the time and the decision to
>>>>>>> repair the vehicle was NOT his to make. FFS you make any excuse
>>>>>>> to belittle anyone and everyone who doesn't bow at your feet. You
>>>>>>> are a fuckwit who couldn't make it as a mechanic and went to
>>>>>>> teaching which you failed at as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How exactly did he fail at teaching?
>>>>>>
>>>>> He is doing a Darren and trying to promulgate a *lie*.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> straight out of Goebbel's  manual..
>>>>
>>> A classic triple, an attack, and two agreements, only alv is missing
>>> maybe sleeping off his last meal.
>>
>> "You are a fuckwit who couldn't make it as a mechanic and went to
>> teaching which you failed at as well."
>>
>> So clearly an (unfounded) attack so apart from you who else agrees?
>>
> Don't know about failings as a teacher, but the old saying goes "Those
> who can - do, those who can't - teach".
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
That would be him!.

All the instructors at the tech
> that I went to were recycled engineers who couldn't keep up with the
> pace of change in electronics.

On 26/01/2022 2:52 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 25/01/2022 7:29 pm, Noddy wrote:

>>> A 100E side valve Anglia, my old man had 2 of those. He traded his
>>> 1940s Austin 10 for the first one, the second one, he went to the
>>> dealers to get a tail light globe replaced and came back with a new
>>> car. The second one got traded for a 105E Anglia.
>>
>> Both were remarkable cunts of cars.
>
> My old man wasn't really a car person, a car was just a thing to get
> from A to B. He never worked on any of his other than to check the water
> and oil level which he did every day.

My old man was the same. He had lots of cars, and a fair few of them
would be pretty cool to own today, but at the time they were heaps of
shit and he never worked on them. By the time I was 15 I was servicing
his cars, and from that point on he never had to take his cars anywhere
else.

> I never drove the 100E, I was too young for a licence, I drove the 105E
> it seemed OK until the first time I drove a mini.

Yep. Mini's made everything look thoroughly hopeless by comparison.

> I once went to a talk by a 50s racing driver (can't remember his name)
> he raced 100E engined cars.For some reason Ford siamesed the inlet
> ports, but had 4 exhaust ports, so he had a new camshaft made reversing
> the valve functions and hung 4 carbies on it. I suppose that, in the
> 50s, you had to make do with what you had.

A lot of people did some innovative things back in those days, but I'm
not sure what he would have ever gained much from something like this.
Exhaust valves on engines of that era were horribly small, and the ports
themselves not really conducive to very good flow when running in reverse.

Siamesed ports existed on many vehicles back in those says and for no
reason other than it making component casting easier and cheaper. It did
absolutely nothing for performance, and in fact was considerably
detrimental compared to dedicated runners.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 26/01/2022 3:17 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 26/01/2022 1:52 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 25/01/2022 7:29 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 25/01/2022 6:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 24/01/2022 7:01 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9XOvOP7eW0
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> A 100E side valve Anglia, my old man had 2 of those. He traded his
>>>> 1940s Austin 10 for the first one, the second one, he went to the
>>>> dealers to get a tail light globe replaced and came back with a new
>>>> car. The second one got traded for a 105E Anglia.
>>>
>>> Both were remarkable cunts of cars.
>>
>> My old man wasn't really a car person, a car was just a thing to get
>> from A to B. He never worked on any of his other than to check the
>> water and oil level which he did every day.
>>
>> I never drove the 100E, I was too young for a licence, I drove the
>> 105E it seemed OK until the first time I drove a mini.
>>
>> I once went to a talk by a 50s racing driver (can't remember his name)
>> he raced 100E engined cars.For some reason Ford siamesed the inlet
>> ports, but had 4 exhaust ports, so he had a new camshaft made
>> reversing the valve functions and hung 4 carbies on it. I suppose
>> that, in the 50s, you had to make do with what you had.
>
> I remembered his name
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Mays

One of the people behind the British BRM formula 1 team of the 1960's.
His "reverse flow" idea for the Prefect engine probably goes some way to
explaining the BRM H16 F1 engine that emerged in the mid 1960's which
was an interesting idea but one that simply didn't work.

It sounded impressive while it was running though :)

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 26/1/2022 5:20 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 26/01/2022 2:52 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 25/01/2022 7:29 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>>> A 100E side valve Anglia, my old man had 2 of those. He traded his
>>>> 1940s Austin 10 for the first one, the second one, he went to the
>>>> dealers to get a tail light globe replaced and came back with a new
>>>> car. The second one got traded for a 105E Anglia.
>>>
>>> Both were remarkable cunts of cars.
>>
>> My old man wasn't really a car person, a car was just a thing to get
>> from A to B. He never worked on any of his other than to check the
>> water and oil level which he did every day.
>
> My old man was the same. He had lots of cars, and a fair few of them
> would be pretty cool to own today, but at the time they were heaps of
> shit and he never worked on them. By the time I was 15 I was servicing
> his cars, and from that point on he never had to take his cars anywhere
> else.
>
>> I never drove the 100E, I was too young for a licence, I drove the
>> 105E it seemed OK until the first time I drove a mini.
>
> Yep. Mini's made everything look thoroughly hopeless by comparison.
>
>> I once went to a talk by a 50s racing driver (can't remember his name)
>> he raced 100E engined cars.For some reason Ford siamesed the inlet
>> ports, but had 4 exhaust ports, so he had a new camshaft made
>> reversing the valve functions and hung 4 carbies on it. I suppose
>> that, in the 50s, you had to make do with what you had.
>
> A lot of people did some innovative things back in those days, but I'm
> not sure what he would have ever gained much from something like this.
> Exhaust valves on engines of that era were horribly small, and the ports
> themselves not really conducive to very good flow when running in reverse.

4 individual intake runners with individual carb throats can be wave
tuned *without* cross cylinder interference. BIG gains but only for all
out racing. What's more, you can be sure the ports were enlarged as
required.
>
> Siamesed ports existed on many vehicles back in those says and for no
> reason other than it making component casting easier and cheaper. It did
> absolutely nothing for performance, and in fact was considerably
> detrimental compared to dedicated runners.
>

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 26/01/2022 3:14 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 26/01/2022 1:34 pm, Clocky wrote:

>> "You are a fuckwit who couldn't make it as a mechanic and went to
>> teaching which you failed at as well."
>>
>> So clearly an (unfounded) attack so apart from you who else agrees?
>>
> Don't know about failings as a teacher, but the old saying goes "Those
> who can - do, those who can't - teach". All the instructors at the tech
> that I went to were recycled engineers who couldn't keep up with the
> pace of change in electronics.

Exactly.

My experience with trade teachers is that they were mostly lazy cunts
who didn't want to get their hands dirty, and they were *so* far behind
the pace of the trade their teaching was almost completely redundant. It
used to be a common joke that when apprentices went off to trade school
on Friday they'd have to be slapped around the workshop the following
Monday morning to knock the "stupid" out of them that they acquired at
school and get them back into reality mode :)

There were exceptions to this of course, as you would expect. I knew a
handful of trade teachers who were quite thoroughly brilliant and some
of the most skilled people I've ever met, but by and large the majority
were the dumbest oxygen thieves on two legs and only went into teaching
because they'd be incapable of holding down a long term job in the real
world.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 26/1/2022 5:30 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 26/01/2022 3:14 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 26/01/2022 1:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
>
>>> "You are a fuckwit who couldn't make it as a mechanic and went to
>>> teaching which you failed at as well."
>>>
>>> So clearly an (unfounded) attack so apart from you who else agrees?
>>>
>> Don't know about failings as a teacher, but the old saying goes "Those
>> who can - do, those who can't - teach". All the instructors at the
>> tech that I went to were recycled engineers who couldn't keep up with
>> the pace of change in electronics.
>
> Exactly.
>
> My experience with trade teachers is that they were mostly lazy cunts

A very *limited* experience since you were never an apprentice ever in
your life.

> who didn't want to get their hands dirty, and they were *so* far behind
> the pace of the trade their teaching was almost completely redundant. It
> used to be a common joke that when apprentices went off to trade school
> on Friday they'd have to be slapped around the workshop the following

On Friday Darren? Since 1979 apprentices have been, for the most part,
on *block release*. You know what that means? Apprentices attend classes
for 1 week in 4 or 1 week in 5. Very few apprentices in automotive in
Victoria were ever on day release and usually only because of special
employer requirements. Luckily for their employer, the new system could
cater to that need but I personally only ever saw 3 or 4 apprentices on
day release in my 20 years in TAFE.

> Monday morning to knock the "stupid" out of them that they acquired at
> school and get them back into reality mode :)
>
> There were exceptions to this of course, as you would expect. I knew a
> handful of trade teachers who were quite thoroughly brilliant and some

The only trade teachers you were likely to have met were my colleagues
in panel and paint at Richmond TAFE when you were doing your hobby
course. Ergo, your *experience* of TAFE teachers is so limited as to be
unworthy of any merit.

> of the most skilled people I've ever met, but by and large the majority
> were the dumbest oxygen thieves on two legs and only went into teaching
> because they'd be incapable of holding down a long term job in the real
> world.
>
Says the clown who couldn't even get an apprenticeship, much less hold
one down.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 26/01/2022 4:24 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 26/01/2022 3:17 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 26/01/2022 1:52 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 25/01/2022 7:29 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 25/01/2022 6:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 24/01/2022 7:01 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9XOvOP7eW0
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> A 100E side valve Anglia, my old man had 2 of those. He traded his
>>>>> 1940s Austin 10 for the first one, the second one, he went to the
>>>>> dealers to get a tail light globe replaced and came back with a new
>>>>> car. The second one got traded for a 105E Anglia.
>>>>
>>>> Both were remarkable cunts of cars.
>>>
>>> My old man wasn't really a car person, a car was just a thing to get
>>> from A to B. He never worked on any of his other than to check the
>>> water and oil level which he did every day.
>>>
>>> I never drove the 100E, I was too young for a licence, I drove the
>>> 105E it seemed OK until the first time I drove a mini.
>>>
>>> I once went to a talk by a 50s racing driver (can't remember his
>>> name) he raced 100E engined cars.For some reason Ford siamesed the
>>> inlet ports, but had 4 exhaust ports, so he had a new camshaft made
>>> reversing the valve functions and hung 4 carbies on it. I suppose
>>> that, in the 50s, you had to make do with what you had.
>>
>> I remembered his name
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Mays
>
> One of the people behind the British BRM formula 1 team of the 1960's.
> His "reverse flow" idea for the Prefect engine probably goes some way to
> explaining the BRM H16 F1 engine that emerged in the mid 1960's which
> was an interesting idea but one that simply didn't work.

Interesting certainly, their previous effort, the 1.5 litre V16 was too.
Very unreliable at first, but then they were revving it at 12K and
getting 550 BHP in 1950 so they were pushing the envelope into unknown
territory and paid the price for doing so. By the time they got it
sorted, the formula got changed

> It sounded impressive while it was running though :)

Someone who actually got to hear the V16 run told me that it was the
loudest noise that he had ever heard.

On 26/01/2022 6:10 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 26/01/2022 4:24 pm, Noddy wrote:

>> One of the people behind the British BRM formula 1 team of the 1960's.
>> His "reverse flow" idea for the Prefect engine probably goes some way
>> to explaining the BRM H16 F1 engine that emerged in the mid 1960's
>> which was an interesting idea but one that simply didn't work.
>
> Interesting certainly, their previous effort, the 1.5 litre V16 was too.
> Very unreliable at first, but then they were revving it at 12K and
> getting 550 BHP in 1950 so they were pushing the envelope into unknown
> territory and paid the price for doing so. By the time they got it
> sorted, the formula got changed

It was certainly way beyond the fringe of what could be made reliable in
those days.

>> It sounded impressive while it was running though :)
>
> Someone who actually got to hear the V16 run told me that it was the
> loudest noise that he had ever heard.

There's a video getting around (actually an audio file with no video) of
a H-16 BRM being started in the pits and driven around the track on a
test and tune session. Can't remember what track it was and I'm pretty
sure the BRM crew were the only ones there at the time, but the audio
quality is quite good and the sound of the engine is amazing. Not quite
"V8 at stupidly high rpm" amazing, but pretty awesome nonetheless.

Stupidly complex engine though, and I'm surprised they got as far with
it as they did.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 26/01/2022 5:22 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 26/01/2022 6:10 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 26/01/2022 4:24 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> One of the people behind the British BRM formula 1 team of the
>>> 1960's. His "reverse flow" idea for the Prefect engine probably goes
>>> some way to explaining the BRM H16 F1 engine that emerged in the mid
>>> 1960's which was an interesting idea but one that simply didn't work.
>>
>> Interesting certainly, their previous effort, the 1.5 litre V16 was
>> too. Very unreliable at first, but then they were revving it at 12K
>> and getting 550 BHP in 1950 so they were pushing the envelope into
>> unknown territory and paid the price for doing so. By the time they
>> got it sorted, the formula got changed
>
> It was certainly way beyond the fringe of what could be made reliable in
> those days.
>
>>> It sounded impressive while it was running though :)
>>
>> Someone who actually got to hear the V16 run told me that it was the
>> loudest noise that he had ever heard.
>
> There's a video getting around (actually an audio file with no video) of
> a H-16 BRM being started in the pits and driven around the track on a
> test and tune session. Can't remember what track it was and I'm pretty
> sure the BRM crew were the only ones there at the time, but the audio
> quality is quite good and the sound of the engine is amazing. Not quite
> "V8 at stupidly high rpm" amazing, but pretty awesome nonetheless.
>
> Stupidly complex engine though, and I'm surprised they got as far with
> it as they did.

Probably not as complex as this quite successful H24 sleeve valve engine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napier_Sabre

On 26/01/2022 12:55 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, 26 January 2022 at 12:38:41 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 26/01/2022 12:31 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 26/1/2022 12:20 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 26/01/2022 11:28 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 26/1/2022 10:39 am, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>> On 26/1/22 10:11 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 25 January 2022 at 23:26:18 UTC+11, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 25/01/2022 10:15 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 25/1/22 8:29 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I blew a snot bubble as I thought he was joking as to me that
>>>>>>>>>> was like
>>>>>>>>>> saying you had the world's largest collection of dried cow
>>>>>>>>>> pats, but
>>>>>>>>>> he opened the back door of his shed and he had stacks of the
>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>> laying around in his yard rusting away in various stages of
>>>>>>>>>> completeness.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fucked if I know why anyone would *want* one of the things, but
>>>>>>>>>> he did.
>>>>>>>>> Only reason I would want one is it would remind me of my
>>>>>>>>> Grandfather,
>>>>>>>>> his car looked much the same but it was a Ford Prefect.
>>>>>>>> This bloke had 1960's Anglias with the Kent engines.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My old man had a Prefect panel van when I was a young kid and I
>>>>>>>> can just
>>>>>>>> remember it. It used to jump out of second gear all the time which I
>>>>>>>> think Ford labeled as "auto disengagement" as if it was a feature :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It was a cunt of a thing as I recall. Freezing cold, noisy, and
>>>>>>>> you just
>>>>>>>> about had to push it up a hill. If I remember correctly he sold
>>>>>>>> that &
>>>>>>>> bought himself a Ford Thames tray truck which I don't think was
>>>>>>>> much of
>>>>>>>> an improvement.
>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>> The V8 engined ones were not to bad (power wise) The armstrong
>>>>>>> steering was the killer.
>>>>>> The company I did my apprenticeship with had a 1965 J5 Bedford, no
>>>>>> PS but from what I remember it wasn't too bad to drive.
>>>>>> Clutch linkage used to occasionally fall off but it was very easy
>>>>>> to shift gears without the clutch so when it happened you just kept
>>>>>> driving:-)
>>>>>>
>>>>> One would have to ask, why did you not *fix* the clutch linkage? You
>>>>> are a *mechanic, right? Done a lot of work on J2, J3, J5, TK & SB
>>>>> Bedfords in my time and can't recall them ever having an issue with
>>>>> clutch linkages.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> i remember shifing gears without using the clutch just for fun in
>>>> days long gone. you just had to match the revs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> And not wise to do it in cars with synchromesh.
>>>
>> the cars I had back then didn't have it
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> UH-HUH, Name some, one even?. That *YOU* owned!.

1948 Vauxhall Wyvern. but you knew that as we've discussed it before. or
is your memory failing?

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam
"my own words are irrelevant"
-noddy 5/08/2017 4:12 PM

On 26/01/2022 1:12 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 26/01/2022 9:28 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 26/01/2022 11:54 am, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 26/01/2022 8:39 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>> On 26/01/2022 10:28 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 26/1/2022 10:39 am, Daryl wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The company I did my apprenticeship with had a 1965 J5 Bedford,
>>>>>> no PS but from what I remember it wasn't too bad to drive.
>>>>>> Clutch linkage used to occasionally fall off but it was very easy
>>>>>> to shift gears without the clutch so when it happened you just
>>>>>> kept driving:-)
>>>>>>
>>>>> One would have to ask, why did you not *fix* the clutch linkage?
>>>>> You are a *mechanic, right? Done a lot of work on J2, J3, J5, TK &
>>>>> SB Bedfords in my time and can't recall them ever having an issue
>>>>> with clutch linkages.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You have to chime in with your 2 cents worth don't you. Note he
>>>> stated he did his apprenticeship with them. Did it ever occur to
>>>> you that he was an employee at the time and the decision to repair
>>>> the vehicle was NOT his to make. FFS you make any excuse to
>>>> belittle anyone and everyone who doesn't bow at your feet. You are
>>>> a fuckwit who couldn't make it as a mechanic and went to teaching
>>>> which you failed at as well.
>>>
>>> How exactly did he fail at teaching?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> don't worry. he just made that up for something to say
>>
>
> Are you suggesting he's just belittling you and your achievements?
>
>

me, no. trying to belittle Xeno

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam
"my own words are irrelevant"
-noddy 5/08/2017 4:12 PM

On 26/1/2022 8:25 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 26/01/2022 1:12 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 26/01/2022 9:28 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 26/01/2022 11:54 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 26/01/2022 8:39 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>> On 26/01/2022 10:28 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 26/1/2022 10:39 am, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The company I did my apprenticeship with had a 1965 J5 Bedford,
>>>>>>> no PS but from what I remember it wasn't too bad to drive.
>>>>>>> Clutch linkage used to occasionally fall off but it was very easy
>>>>>>> to shift gears without the clutch so when it happened you just
>>>>>>> kept driving:-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> One would have to ask, why did you not *fix* the clutch linkage?
>>>>>> You are a *mechanic, right? Done a lot of work on J2, J3, J5, TK &
>>>>>> SB Bedfords in my time and can't recall them ever having an issue
>>>>>> with clutch linkages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You have to chime in with your 2 cents worth don't you. Note he
>>>>> stated he did his apprenticeship with them. Did it ever occur to
>>>>> you that he was an employee at the time and the decision to repair
>>>>> the vehicle was NOT his to make. FFS you make any excuse to
>>>>> belittle anyone and everyone who doesn't bow at your feet. You are
>>>>> a fuckwit who couldn't make it as a mechanic and went to teaching
>>>>> which you failed at as well.
>>>>
>>>> How exactly did he fail at teaching?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> don't worry. he just made that up for something to say
>>>
>>
>> Are you suggesting he's just belittling you and your achievements?
>>
>>
>
> me, no. trying to belittle Xeno
>
And, as usual, Grumpy just shot himself in the foot. It's becoming habit
forming for him.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Wednesday, 26 January 2022 at 20:21:39 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 26/01/2022 12:55 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 26 January 2022 at 12:38:41 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >> On 26/01/2022 12:31 pm, Xeno wrote:
> >>> On 26/1/2022 12:20 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >>>> On 26/01/2022 11:28 am, Xeno wrote:
> >>>>> On 26/1/2022 10:39 am, Daryl wrote:
> >>>>>> On 26/1/22 10:11 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, 25 January 2022 at 23:26:18 UTC+11, Noddy wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 25/01/2022 10:15 pm, Daryl wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 25/1/22 8:29 pm, Noddy wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I blew a snot bubble as I thought he was joking as to me that
> >>>>>>>>>> was like
> >>>>>>>>>> saying you had the world's largest collection of dried cow
> >>>>>>>>>> pats, but
> >>>>>>>>>> he opened the back door of his shed and he had stacks of the
> >>>>>>>>>> things
> >>>>>>>>>> laying around in his yard rusting away in various stages of
> >>>>>>>>>> completeness.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Fucked if I know why anyone would *want* one of the things, but
> >>>>>>>>>> he did.
> >>>>>>>>> Only reason I would want one is it would remind me of my
> >>>>>>>>> Grandfather,
> >>>>>>>>> his car looked much the same but it was a Ford Prefect.
> >>>>>>>> This bloke had 1960's Anglias with the Kent engines.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> My old man had a Prefect panel van when I was a young kid and I
> >>>>>>>> can just
> >>>>>>>> remember it. It used to jump out of second gear all the time which I
> >>>>>>>> think Ford labeled as "auto disengagement" as if it was a feature :)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It was a cunt of a thing as I recall. Freezing cold, noisy, and
> >>>>>>>> you just
> >>>>>>>> about had to push it up a hill. If I remember correctly he sold
> >>>>>>>> that &
> >>>>>>>> bought himself a Ford Thames tray truck which I don't think was
> >>>>>>>> much of
> >>>>>>>> an improvement.
> >>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>>>> The V8 engined ones were not to bad (power wise) The armstrong
> >>>>>>> steering was the killer.
> >>>>>> The company I did my apprenticeship with had a 1965 J5 Bedford, no
> >>>>>> PS but from what I remember it wasn't too bad to drive.
> >>>>>> Clutch linkage used to occasionally fall off but it was very easy
> >>>>>> to shift gears without the clutch so when it happened you just kept
> >>>>>> driving:-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> One would have to ask, why did you not *fix* the clutch linkage? You
> >>>>> are a *mechanic, right? Done a lot of work on J2, J3, J5, TK & SB
> >>>>> Bedfords in my time and can't recall them ever having an issue with
> >>>>> clutch linkages.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> i remember shifing gears without using the clutch just for fun in
> >>>> days long gone. you just had to match the revs.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> And not wise to do it in cars with synchromesh.
> >>>
> >> the cars I had back then didn't have it
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > UH-HUH, Name some, one even?. That *YOU* owned!.
> 1948 Vauxhall Wyvern. but you knew that as we've discussed it before. or
> is your memory failing?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``
My memory is fine, (tho your poasts are usually forgettable)....however
*yours* is fucked. those cars had a three speed box with synchro on second and third.
In fact Vauxhall had synchro from the `20's? but *definitely* the `30.s (And a 4 speed box available
I owned a `35 BX)
> --
> https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam
> "my own words are irrelevant"
> -noddy 5/08/2017 4:12 PM

On 26/01/2022 6:57 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 26/01/2022 5:22 pm, Noddy wrote:

>>
>> There's a video getting around (actually an audio file with no video)
>> of a H-16 BRM being started in the pits and driven around the track on
>> a test and tune session. Can't remember what track it was and I'm
>> pretty sure the BRM crew were the only ones there at the time, but the
>> audio quality is quite good and the sound of the engine is amazing.
>> Not quite "V8 at stupidly high rpm" amazing, but pretty awesome
>> nonetheless.
>>
>> Stupidly complex engine though, and I'm surprised they got as far with
>> it as they did.
>
> Probably not as complex as this quite successful H24 sleeve valve engine
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napier_Sabre

Complexity is relative.

The Napier_Sabre was certainly a busy engine, but it was also a very
large relatively slow turning one that wasn't particularly stressed and
had a moderately low (for a supercharged engine) horsepower per cubic
inch output. By comparison, the BRM P75 H-16 was a small capacity
naturally aspirated 16 cylinder engine arranged as two flat 8 cylinder
"boxer" style engines that were stacked one on top of the other with
their cranks meshed by gears. It had 8 camshafts that were all
completely gear driven, 64 valves, and spun at 12,000rpm in service
making around 420hp.

It's impossible to say which one was more complex as they were different
engines designed to do different things, but it's fair to say that
neither one of them was a "simple machine". In their respective fields
they were at the very complex end of what was practicable.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 26/01/2022 5:25 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 26/01/2022 1:12 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 26/01/2022 9:28 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 26/01/2022 11:54 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 26/01/2022 8:39 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>> On 26/01/2022 10:28 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 26/1/2022 10:39 am, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The company I did my apprenticeship with had a 1965 J5 Bedford,
>>>>>>> no PS but from what I remember it wasn't too bad to drive.
>>>>>>> Clutch linkage used to occasionally fall off but it was very easy
>>>>>>> to shift gears without the clutch so when it happened you just
>>>>>>> kept driving:-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> One would have to ask, why did you not *fix* the clutch linkage?
>>>>>> You are a *mechanic, right? Done a lot of work on J2, J3, J5, TK &
>>>>>> SB Bedfords in my time and can't recall them ever having an issue
>>>>>> with clutch linkages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You have to chime in with your 2 cents worth don't you. Note he
>>>>> stated he did his apprenticeship with them. Did it ever occur to
>>>>> you that he was an employee at the time and the decision to repair
>>>>> the vehicle was NOT his to make. FFS you make any excuse to
>>>>> belittle anyone and everyone who doesn't bow at your feet. You are
>>>>> a fuckwit who couldn't make it as a mechanic and went to teaching
>>>>> which you failed at as well.
>>>>
>>>> How exactly did he fail at teaching?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> don't worry. he just made that up for something to say
>>>
>>
>> Are you suggesting he's just belittling you and your achievements?
>>
>>
>
> me, no. trying to belittle Xeno
>

What I meant, sorry.

On 26/01/2022 12:14 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 26/01/2022 1:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 26/01/2022 11:08 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 26/01/2022 11:36 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 26/01/2022 12:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 26/1/2022 11:54 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 26/01/2022 8:39 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>>>> On 26/01/2022 10:28 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 26/1/2022 10:39 am, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The company I did my apprenticeship with had a 1965 J5 Bedford,
>>>>>>>>> no PS but from what I remember it wasn't too bad to drive.
>>>>>>>>> Clutch linkage used to occasionally fall off but it was very
>>>>>>>>> easy to shift gears without the clutch so when it happened you
>>>>>>>>> just kept driving:-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One would have to ask, why did you not *fix* the clutch linkage?
>>>>>>>> You are a *mechanic, right? Done a lot of work on J2, J3, J5, TK
>>>>>>>> & SB Bedfords in my time and can't recall them ever having an
>>>>>>>> issue with clutch linkages.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have to chime in with your 2 cents worth don't you. Note he
>>>>>>> stated he did his apprenticeship with them. Did it ever occur to
>>>>>>> you that he was an employee at the time and the decision to
>>>>>>> repair the vehicle was NOT his to make. FFS you make any excuse
>>>>>>> to belittle anyone and everyone who doesn't bow at your feet. You
>>>>>>> are a fuckwit who couldn't make it as a mechanic and went to
>>>>>>> teaching which you failed at as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How exactly did he fail at teaching?
>>>>>>
>>>>> He is doing a Darren and trying to promulgate a *lie*.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> straight out of Goebbel's  manual..
>>>>
>>> A classic triple, an attack, and two agreements, only alv is missing
>>> maybe sleeping off his last meal.
>>
>> "You are a fuckwit who couldn't make it as a mechanic and went to
>> teaching which you failed at as well."
>>
>> So clearly an (unfounded) attack so apart from you who else agrees?
>>
> Don't know about failings as a teacher,

So an unfounded attack then.

<snip irrelevant>

On Thursday, 27 January 2022 at 00:45:58 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
> On 26/01/2022 12:14 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> > On 26/01/2022 1:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
> >> On 26/01/2022 11:08 am, keithr0 wrote:
> >>> On 26/01/2022 11:36 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >>>> On 26/01/2022 12:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
> >>>>> On 26/1/2022 11:54 am, Clocky wrote:
> >>>>>> On 26/01/2022 8:39 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 26/01/2022 10:28 am, Xeno wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 26/1/2022 10:39 am, Daryl wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The company I did my apprenticeship with had a 1965 J5 Bedford,
> >>>>>>>>> no PS but from what I remember it wasn't too bad to drive.
> >>>>>>>>> Clutch linkage used to occasionally fall off but it was very
> >>>>>>>>> easy to shift gears without the clutch so when it happened you
> >>>>>>>>> just kept driving:-)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> One would have to ask, why did you not *fix* the clutch linkage?
> >>>>>>>> You are a *mechanic, right? Done a lot of work on J2, J3, J5, TK
> >>>>>>>> & SB Bedfords in my time and can't recall them ever having an
> >>>>>>>> issue with clutch linkages.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You have to chime in with your 2 cents worth don't you. Note he
> >>>>>>> stated he did his apprenticeship with them. Did it ever occur to
> >>>>>>> you that he was an employee at the time and the decision to
> >>>>>>> repair the vehicle was NOT his to make. FFS you make any excuse
> >>>>>>> to belittle anyone and everyone who doesn't bow at your feet. You
> >>>>>>> are a fuckwit who couldn't make it as a mechanic and went to
> >>>>>>> teaching which you failed at as well.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How exactly did he fail at teaching?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> He is doing a Darren and trying to promulgate a *lie*.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> straight out of Goebbel's manual..
> >>>>
> >>> A classic triple, an attack, and two agreements, only alv is missing
> >>> maybe sleeping off his last meal.
> >>
> >> "You are a fuckwit who couldn't make it as a mechanic and went to
> >> teaching which you failed at as well."
> >>
> >> So clearly an (unfounded) attack so apart from you who else agrees?
> >>
> > Don't know about failings as a teacher,
> So an unfounded attack then.
>
> <snip irrelevant>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
As usual ticcy snips, thereby changing context.!
Par for the course!,

On 26/01/2022 11:45 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 26/01/2022 12:14 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 26/01/2022 1:34 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 26/01/2022 11:08 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 26/01/2022 11:36 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 26/01/2022 12:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 26/1/2022 11:54 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 26/01/2022 8:39 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 26/01/2022 10:28 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 26/1/2022 10:39 am, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The company I did my apprenticeship with had a 1965 J5
>>>>>>>>>> Bedford, no PS but from what I remember it wasn't too bad to
>>>>>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>>>>> Clutch linkage used to occasionally fall off but it was very
>>>>>>>>>> easy to shift gears without the clutch so when it happened you
>>>>>>>>>> just kept driving:-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One would have to ask, why did you not *fix* the clutch
>>>>>>>>> linkage? You are a *mechanic, right? Done a lot of work on J2,
>>>>>>>>> J3, J5, TK & SB Bedfords in my time and can't recall them ever
>>>>>>>>> having an issue with clutch linkages.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You have to chime in with your 2 cents worth don't you. Note he
>>>>>>>> stated he did his apprenticeship with them. Did it ever occur to
>>>>>>>> you that he was an employee at the time and the decision to
>>>>>>>> repair the vehicle was NOT his to make. FFS you make any excuse
>>>>>>>> to belittle anyone and everyone who doesn't bow at your feet.
>>>>>>>> You are a fuckwit who couldn't make it as a mechanic and went to
>>>>>>>> teaching which you failed at as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How exactly did he fail at teaching?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> He is doing a Darren and trying to promulgate a *lie*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> straight out of Goebbel's  manual..
>>>>>
>>>> A classic triple, an attack, and two agreements, only alv is missing
>>>> maybe sleeping off his last meal.
>>>
>>> "You are a fuckwit who couldn't make it as a mechanic and went to
>>> teaching which you failed at as well."
>>>
>>> So clearly an (unfounded) attack so apart from you who else agrees?
>>>
>> Don't know about failings as a teacher,
>
> So an unfounded attack then.
>
> <snip irrelevant>

Trying to learn from alvey eh? Good luck with that.