On 17/03/2022 10:51 am, Fran didn't write the following:
> On 17/03/2022 09:25, dolf wrote:
>> DO TRY TO KEEP ON TOPIC which is not concerned with a "lack to
>> perpetuity of time in eternity" but the PERPETUITY of TIME from SINCE
>> THE WORLD BEGAN (G5550 / G166) to TIME-G5550: NO LONGER-G2089:
>> [Revelation 10:6-7]
>>
>> "And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven,
>> and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that
>> therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there
>> should be time no longer:
>>
>> #1090 as [#600, #100, #70, #50, #70, #200] = chrónos (G55
>>
>>      #490 - NOUMENON RESONANCE FOR 17 MARCH 2022 as [#70, #400, #20] =
>> ou (G3756): {UMBRA: #470 % #41 = #19} 1) no, not; in direct questions
>> expecting an affirmative answer;50): {UMBRA: #1090 % #41 = #24} 1)
>> time either long or short;
>>
>> #315 as [#5, #300, #10] = éti (G2089): {UMBRA: #315 % #41 = #28} 1)
>> yet, still; 1a) of time; 1a1) of a thing which went on formerly,
>> whereas now a different state of things exists or has begun to exist;
>> 1a2) of a thing which continues at present; i) even, now; 1a3) with
>> negatives; i) no longer, no more; 1a4) of degree and increase; i)
>> even, yet; ii) besides, more, further;
>>
>> But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin
>> to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared
>> to his servants the prophets." [Revelation 10:6-7]
>>
>> On 17/3/2022 08:41, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> On 17/03/2022 8:01 am, dolf wrote:
>>>> The question then is how can we rationally resolve (ie. the seventh and
>>>> final temporal marker) this PERPETUITY OF TIME against the INFINITE as
>>>> eternity?
>>>
>>> I don't agree with your assumption.
>>>
>>
>> Clearly you preach another Christ by another Gospel given the notion
>> of SINCE THE WORLD BEGAN (G5550 / G166) is intrinsic to the teachings
>> of Jesus--the assumption was *justified* *by* *facts* so try refuting
>> those you whitewash sepulchre.
>>
>>>> "NOW TO HIM THAT IS OF POWER TO STABLISH YOU ACCORDING TO MY GOSPEL,
>>>> AND THE PREACHING OF JESUS CHRIST, ACCORDING TO THE REVELATION OF THE
>>>> MYSTERY, WHICH WAS KEPT SECRET SINCE THE WORLD BEGAN (G5550 / G166),
>>>>
>>>> #1090 as [#600, #100, #70, #50, #70, #200] = chrónos (G5550): {UMBRA:
>>>> #1090 % #41 = #24} 1) time either long or short;
>>>>
>>>> #861 as [#1, #10, #800, #50] = aiṓn (G165): {UMBRA: #861 % #41 = #41}
>>>> 1) for ever, an unbroken age, perpetuity of time, eternity; 2) the
>>>> worlds, universe; 3) period of time, age;
>>>>
>>>> #1141 as [#1, #10, #800, #50, #10, #70, #200] = aiṓnios (G166):
>>>> {UMBRA: #1141 % #41 = #34} 1) without beginning and end, that which
>>>> always has been and always will be; 2) without beginning; 3) without
>>>> end, never to cease, everlasting;
>>>>
>>>> BUT NOW IS MADE MANIFEST, AND BY THE SCRIPTURES OF THE PROPHETS,
>>>> ACCORDING TO THE COMMANDMENT OF THE EVERLASTING GOD, MADE KNOWN TO
>>>> ALL NATIONS FOR THE OBEDIENCE OF FAITH:" [Romans 16:25-26]
>>>>
>>
>>> There is no perpetuity of time in eternity.  There is no time, it is
>>> only now.  There will be, simply, life.  Think of it like
>>> righteousness, it just is and doesn't change.
>>>
>>> Pretty cool.  Do you think you'll be there?
>>>
>>> Michael Christ <-- *HERETIC*
>>>>
>>>> It is also possible to apply a MOD 22 against the number of 146,097
>>>> days
>>>> within each accumulative #400 years determined by the Gregorian
>>>> calendar
>>>> reforms
>>>>
>>>> #6000 MOD 22 = 13 SEPTEMBER 2001 [#MEM / #40 - Shelah {Sprout/That
>>>> breaks; that unties;
>>>> that undresses}
>>>>
>>>> Equinox of Wednesday DATE(1996,3,20) / (Thursday New Moon 21 MARCH
>>>> 1996) + (5 * 364) + 182 days = Wednesday DATE(2001,9,12)
>>>>
>>>> On 28 August 2019, the Parliament of the United Kingdom was ordered
>>>> to be prorogued by Queen Elizabeth II upon the advice of the
>>>> Conservative prime minister, Boris Johnson, as later ruled to be
>>>> unlawful in duration. The prorogation, or suspension, of Parliament
>>>> was to be effective from between 9 and 12 September 2019 and ought
>>>> to have been sufficient until 17 September 2019 so as by such BREXIT
>>>> process to crystallise and cauterise the sovereign prerogative as
>>>> distinct to that of the European Union member states.
>>>>
>>>> There is a corresponding full moon 21 MARCH 2019 event which relates
>>>> to #325 - EASTER SUNDAY LUNAR OCCULTATION (21 MARCH) AS TRANSITION
>>>> EVENT ON SUNDAY 21 APRIL 2019 / MAGIC SUM 5x5 = #65 - SOLDIER v's
>>>> QUEEN'S BIRTHDAY #44 - NORMA OBLIGANS #27 - DUTIES SUBSTITUTION FOR
>>>> 18 - 22 APRIL
>>>>
>>>> St George's Day is celebrated every year on 23 April, which is
>>>> believed to be the day that St George died.
>>>>
>>>> Due to calendar conflicts Anglicans did mark the patron saint's day
>>>> on Monday 29 April 2019, while Catholics did transfer the day to 30
>>>> April 2019.
>>>>
>>>> It's thought that he was executed in 303 AD for refusing to renounce
>>>> his Christian faith in compliance with the Roman Emperor
>>>> Diocletian's (284 to 305 AD) orders that soldiers make sacrifices to
>>>> pagan gods.
>>>>
>>>> DETAILS OF THE CHRISTCHURCH MOSQUE MASSACRE ON 15 MARCH 2019
>>>> (SACRIFICE TO PAGAN GODS BY REBORN KNIGHTS TEMPLAR (ie. *CATHOLIC*)
>>>> FOR A BLESSING OF THE ATTACK):
>>>> Two consecutive mass shootings occurred at mosques in a terrorist
>>>> attack in Christchurch during Friday Prayer on 15 March 2019. The
>>>> attack, carried out by a single gunman who entered both mosques,
>>>> began at the Al Noor Mosque in the suburb of Riccarton at 1:40 pm
>>>> and continued at the Linwood Islamic Centre at 1:52 pm.
>>>>
>>>> He killed 51 people and injured 40.
>>>>
>>>> Brenton Harrison Tarrant (anglo-irish heritage), a 28-year-old man
>>>> from Grafton, New South Wales, Australia, was arrested shortly
>>>> afterward. He was described in media reports as a white supremacist
>>>> and part of the alt-right.
>>>>
>>>> He had live-streamed the first shooting on Facebook, and prior to
>>>> the attack, had published an online manifesto; both the video and
>>>> manifesto were subsequently banned in New Zealand and Australia.
>>>>
>>>> TARRANT'S MANIFESTO EMAILED TO ARDERN, page 9 of 73 states of the in
>>>> situ "terrorist attack" which whilst not ordered by any group as a
>>>> decision TARRANT made himself, he 'DID CONTACT THE REBORN KNIGHTS
>>>> TEMPLAR (ie. *CATHOLIC*) FOR A BLESSING IN SUPPORT OF THE ATTACK,
>>>> WHICH WAS GIVEN.'
>>>>
>>>> In March 2020, he pleaded guilty to 51 murders, 40 attempted
>>>> murders, and engaging in a terrorist act,] and in August was
>>>> sentenced to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole –
>>>> the first such sentence in New Zealand.
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchurch_mosque_shootings>
>>>>
>>>> dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> "NOW TO HIM THAT IS OF POWER TO STABLISH YOU ACCORDING TO MY
>>>>> GOSPEL, AND THE PREACHING OF JESUS CHRIST, ACCORDING TO THE
>>>>> REVELATION OF THE MYSTERY, WHICH WAS KEPT SECRET SINCE THE WORLD
>>>>> BEGAN (G5550 / G166),
>>>>>
>>>>> #1090 as [#600, #100, #70, #50, #70, #200] = chrónos (G5550):
>>>>> {UMBRA: #1090 % #41 = #24} 1) time either long or short;
>>>>>
>>>>> #861 as [#1, #10, #800, #50] = aiṓn (G165): {UMBRA: #861 % #41 =
>>>>> #41} 1) for ever, an unbroken age, perpetuity of time, eternity; 2)
>>>>> the worlds, universe; 3) period of time, age;
>>>>>
>>>>> #1141 as [#1, #10, #800, #50, #10, #70, #200] = aiṓnios (G166):
>>>>> {UMBRA: #1141 % #41 = #34} 1) without beginning and end, that which
>>>>> always has been and always will be; 2) without beginning; 3)
>>>>> without end, never to cease, everlasting;
>>>>>
>>>>> BUT NOW IS MADE MANIFEST, AND BY THE SCRIPTURES OF THE PROPHETS,
>>>>> ACCORDING TO THE COMMANDMENT OF THE EVERLASTING GOD, MADE KNOWN TO
>>>>> ALL NATIONS FOR THE OBEDIENCE OF FAITH:" [Romans 16:25-26]
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14/3/2022 12:34, dolf wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Given the first word of the BOOK OF GENESIS being rêʼshîyth (H7225):
>>>>>> beginning then accords with a sun / moon chronological grounding
>>>>>> perspective as the view that the 10 commandments are ONTIC
>>>>>> principles for
>>>>>> stages of development and temporal grounding markers relative to
>>>>>> infinity
>>>>>> which has a factual parallelism with the archaeological discovery
>>>>>> of the
>>>>>> Book of time divisions by jubilees and weeks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> REMEMBER THE SABBATH: “And on the seventh day God ended his work
>>>>>> which he
>>>>>> had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which
>>>>>> he had
>>>>>> made.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that
>>>>>> in it he
>>>>>> had rested from all his work which God created and made.” [Genesis
>>>>>> 2:2-3]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HONOUR PARENTS: “And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness
>>>>>> of his
>>>>>> father, and told his two brethren without.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their
>>>>>> shoulders,
>>>>>> and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had
>>>>>> done unto
>>>>>> him.” [Genesis 9:22-24]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> THOU SHALT NOT KILL: “And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and
>>>>>> said, My
>>>>>> father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the
>>>>>> fire and
>>>>>> the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt
>>>>>> offering: so they went both of them together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And they came to the place which God had told him of; and Abraham
>>>>>> built an
>>>>>> altar there, and laid the wood in order, and bound Isaac his son,
>>>>>> and laid
>>>>>> him on the altar upon the wood.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay
>>>>>> his son.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said,
>>>>>> Abraham,
>>>>>> Abraham: and he said, Here am I.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>> unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not
>>>>>> withheld thy son, thine only son from me.” [Genesis 22:7-12]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thusly the forty year EXODUS sojourn which occurred within the
>>>>>> 49th jubilee
>>>>>> having a correspondence to the giving of the 10 COMMANDMENTS is in
>>>>>> and of
>>>>>> itself 49 x #2184 (6D = #24 x #7 x #13 - PRIESTLY SERVICE
>>>>>> DIVISIONS) = 6J a
>>>>>> validation of the Jewish claim to ownership of the Jerusalem Temple:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> EXODUS 49J1W2D (49th jubilee + 7 years) + 40 YEARS SOJOURN:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 49 x #2184 (6D = #24 x #7 x #13 - PRIESTLY SERVICE DIVISIONS) = 6J
>>>>>> as 294 x
>>>>>> 364 days = 107016 days / 293 = 365.242320819112628 TROPICAL YEAR
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IPSO FACTO: "THEN THE KING SAID TO THE WISE MEN, WHICH KNEW THE
>>>>>> TIMES (ie.
>>>>>> 12 x 6J = 72J), FOR SO WAS THE KING'S MANNER TOWARD ALL THAT KNEW
>>>>>> LAW AND
>>>>>> JUDGMENT..." [Esther 1:13]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There can be no argument (ie. 49J1W2D (49th jubilee + 7 years) +
>>>>>> 40 years =
>>>>>> 47 years as 2 years from the next Jubilee being within the
>>>>>> Promised Land)
>>>>>> about such being the underlying scientific premise of the BIBLE:
>>>>>> "49J1W2D -
>>>>>> 4. Wherefore I [did] ordain for thee the year-weeks and the years
>>>>>> and the
>>>>>> jubilees: there are forty-nine jubilees from the days of Adam
>>>>>> until this
>>>>>> day, and one week and two years and there are yet forty years to come
>>>>>> (literally “distant”) for learning the COMMANDMENTS OF THE LORD,
>>>>>> until they
>>>>>> pass over into the LAND OF CANAAN, crossing the Jordan to the west.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5. And the jubilees will pass by, until Israel is cleansed from
>>>>>> all guilt
>>>>>> of fornication, and uncleanness, and pollution, and sin, and
>>>>>> error, and
>>>>>> dwelleth with confidence in all the land, and there will be no
>>>>>> more a #351
>>>>>> - *SATAN* / *BELIAL* or any evil one, and the land will be clean
>>>>>> from that
>>>>>> time for evermore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6. And behold the commandment regarding the Sabbaths--I have
>>>>>> written (them)
>>>>>> down for thee and all the judgments of its laws." [Book of
>>>>>> Jubilees 50:4-6]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In being mindful that I am talking to a Jewish community who know
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> history (492 BCE–c. 460 BCE) better than myself, so I make the
>>>>>> IPSO FACTO
>>>>>> observation relative to the value 6J as possessing a reasonable
>>>>>> temporal
>>>>>> reference continuity as conclusion 12 x 6J = 72J expressed within
>>>>>> the later
>>>>>> Biblical narrative as historical reference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The testimony as faith of Jesus similarly relates to this same sun
>>>>>> / moon
>>>>>> chronology having a continuity grounding as given by the seventy
>>>>>> weeks /
>>>>>> ten jubilees messianic prophecy of [Daniel 9:24-26] where the
>>>>>> intrinsic
>>>>>> CHRISTIAN VALUE equates "AND AFTER THREESCORE AND TWO WEEKS SHALL
>>>>>> MESSIAH
>>>>>> BE CUT OFF" with the crucifixion of FRIDAY 3 APRIL 33 AD and to
>>>>>> the SIXTH
>>>>>> COMMANDMENT: THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "HERE IS THE PATIENCE OF THE SAINTS: HERE ARE THEY THAT KEEP THE
>>>>>> COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, AND THE FAITH OF JESUS (ie. the alpha and
>>>>>> omega)."
>>>>>> [Revelation 14:12]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So the conclusion is that if one is using time divisions by
>>>>>> jubilees and
>>>>>> weeks then the basic chronological concept of 6D = 6 x #364 as
>>>>>> #2184 days
>>>>>> applies as relevant to #24 x #7 x #13 - PRIESTLY SERVICE DIVISIONS
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> are applicable to the Jerusalem Temple.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> THUSLY ITS NOT SO MUCH AN ARSEHOLE OF A GOD BUT THAT THE JEWISH
>>>>>> PEOPLE
>>>>>> BREACHED THE EVERLASTING COVENANT AND INCURRED ITS PENALTY.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And your arsehole of a god that just yawned when 6M of its alleged
>>>>>>> chosen people were gassed and cremated tells you that you better
>>>>>>> not thank it again and puts consigns you to hell, again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> Do you have a big cock? I could suck it until it was as hard as granite
> and then you could fuck me up the arse like a jackhammer.
> What do you say, big boy?

On 17/03/2022 18:35, Fran wrote:
> On 17/03/2022 10:51 am, Fran didn't write the following:
>>
>> Do you have a big cock? I could suck it until it was as hard as
>> granite and then you could fuck me up the arse like a jackhammer.
>> What do you say, big boy?
>

Stop forging me you fucking saddo.

Rod Speed wrote on 16/3/22 2:33 am:
> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote

<Snip>

>> Sure, when all the coal gennies are shut down, getting power to get
>> the water back up the hills could be a bit problematic but still!
>
> Nope, it acts like a battery, tho pumping up more during the day with
> the solar for use at night.

Yeap. that makes sense.
--
Daniel

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>> The russians dont care about their masses, just their elite.

> That goes back hundreds of years, First read itin Catherine the Great
> in war against Sweden.

Yeah, interesting look at that detail in the first episode of
https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/program/the-royals-keeping-the-crown

Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>> > Rod Speed wrote
>> >> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> > Rod Speed wrote
>> >> >> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> >> > Rod Speed wrote
>> >> >> >> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> >> >> > Rod Speed wrote
>> >> >> >> >> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> >> >> >> > Rod Speed wrote
>> >> >> >> >> >> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Rod Speed wrote
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> petzl wrote
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The major investment cost will be the high speed
>> >> tracks
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Maintenance, energy, employees will be far less
>> than
>> >> to
>> >> >> run
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> >> Jet
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Aircraft.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> And it will last for ever.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Nothing does, moron.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Your arseholiness does, google will see to that.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Nope, even google won't last forever, you watch.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > Watched deja news turn to google groups, and then wow how
>> >> >> >> wonderful my
>> >> >> >> >> > old posts back in the early 90s are easily available.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> That's only a few decades, stupid.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Long enough for my purposes, imbecile.
>> >> >> >> Irrelevant to your stupid claim, stupid.
>> >> >> > You are a clueless silly devil.
>> >> >> >> > They will last over millenia in some form or the other.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Not a chance, you watch.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Yeah, I will watch over millenia all right.
>> >> >> Irrelevant to how long they will last.
>> >> >> >> >> > "Such a rich source of free and unfettered info will
>> always
>> >> be
>> >> >> >> valued,
>> >> >> >> >> > so long as men are men.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Doesnt mean it will last forever, stupid.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > It will last long enough as it already has.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Even world wars won't wipe them out.
>> >>
>> >> >> That depends on how bad it gets. Unlikely it would
>> >> >> survive the USA and Russia firing off all their nukes.
>> >> > No, even if they fire all their nukes at mostthey will kill at most
>> >> 20%
>> >> > of humanity.
>> >>
>> >> That remains to be seen.
>> >> > 12000 nukes each killing 100000
>> >> That number is straight from your arse, we can tell from the smell.
>>
>> > Come on Rod, be a good arsehole, so stop producing here what arseholes
>> > do.

>> You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

> No I could not, for I do not bullshit.

Obvious lie.

<reams of your shit any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs>

On Friday, 18 March 2022 at 03:39:46 UTC+11, Rod Speed wrote:
his usual crap, so
- flush -

On Friday, 18 March 2022 at 07:29:19 UTC+11, petzl wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 03:36:27 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote
> >> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
> >
> >>> The russians dont care about their masses, just their elite.
> >
> >> That goes back hundreds of years, First read itin Catherine the Great
> >> in war against Sweden.
> >
> >Yeah, interesting look at that detail in the first episode of
> >https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/program/the-royals-keeping-the-crown
> >
> In the case of Russia verses Sweden Russian King Peter III's troops
> were being massacred. His defense was that he would just send more to
> the slaughter which saw Sweden capitulate due to much smaller
> population.

Yes, Peter the Great, was that it?
A really tall guy.
I saw his regal dress in the Kremlin.
Must be an ideal guy for Putin.
> Same happening in Ukraine Russia has no problem sending in more cannon
> fodder.

Yes, so Russia will win.
> The best attack on Russia was by many countries seizing Russian
> oligarchs wealth/property>

Good idea, to steal from thieves, but that won't stop Putin.

> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_oligarchs>
> Believed how Putin hid his stolen wealth, which he accumulated after
> the fall of the Soviet Union using his Stasi/KGB position/connections.

So how much did they get from Putin's supposedly vast wealth hidden in the West?
If he really has that much wealth, why should he have risked losing them?

> <https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46525543>
> Russia being cut off from world banks will affect Russia for years.
> They will be back in the USSR economy.

Which must have been pretty good, for they were a superpower then.

> Petzl

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>> The russians dont care about their masses, just their elite.

>>> That goes back hundreds of years, First read it in Catherine the
>>> Great in war against Sweden.

>> Yeah, interesting look at that detail in the first episode of
>> https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/program/the-royals-keeping-the-crown

> In the case of Russia verses Sweden Russian King Peter III's troops
> were being massacred. His defense was that he would just send more to
> the slaughter which saw Sweden capitulate due to much smaller
> population.

> Same happening in Ukraine Russia has no problem sending in more cannon
> fodder.

That remains to be seen. It's different now and was in WW2 too.

> The best attack on Russia was by many countriesseizing Russian
> oligarchs wealth/property>

That remains to be seen. Most of them are anti Putin already.

> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_oligarchs>

> Believed how Putin hid his stolen wealth, which he accumulated after
> the fall of the Soviet Union using his Stasi/KGB position/connections.
> <https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46525543>
> Russia being cut off from world banks will affect Russia for years.

Unlikely Putin cares and no european country has turned off his gas.

> They will be back in the USSR economy.

Unlikely given how Dependant europe is on his gas.

Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

> - flush -

It was always obvious you are just a stinking dunny full of stinking shit.

Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote
> petzl wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote

>> >>> The russians dont care about their masses, just their elite.
>> >
>> >> That goes back hundreds of years, First read itin Catherine the Great
>> >> in war against Sweden.
>> >
>> >Yeah, interesting look at that detail in the first episode of
>> >https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/program/the-royals-keeping-the-crown
>> >
>> In the case of Russia verses Sweden Russian King Peter III's troops
>> were being massacred. His defense was that he would just send more to
>> the slaughter which saw Sweden capitulate due to much smaller
>> population.
>
> Yes, Peter the Great, was that it?
> A really tall guy.
> I saw his regal dress in the Kremlin.
> Must be an ideal guy for Putin.
>
>> Same happening in Ukraine Russia has no problem sending in more cannon
>> fodder.
>
> Yes, so Russia will win.

That remains to be seen. Modern wars aren't about the number of bodys
and hasn't been for a hell of a long time now. Clearly didn't work for
Russia with Afghanistan and I bet it doesn't with the Ukraine either.

>> The best attack on Russia was by many countries seizing Russian
>> oligarchs wealth/property>

> Good idea, to steal from thieves, but that won't stop Putin.

Agreed.

>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_oligarchs>
>> Believed how Putin hid his stolen wealth, which he accumulated after
>> the fall of the Soviet Union using his Stasi/KGB position/connections.

> So how much did they get from Putin's supposedly vast wealth hidden in
> the West?

> If he really has that much wealth, why should he have risked losing them?

Unlikely that he expected anything like the level of sanctions seen.

>> <https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46525543>
>> Russia being cut off from world banks will affect Russia for years.
>> They will be back in the USSR economy.

> Which must have been pretty good,

Nope, their GDP wasn't even as great as the UK's.

> for they were a superpower then.

Only militarily.

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Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

- flush -

It was always obvious you are just a stinking dunny full of stinking shit.

Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

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It was always obvious you are just a stinking dunny full of stinking shit.

- flush -

Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

- flush -

It was always obvious you are just a stinking dunny full of stinking shit.

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote
>> petzl wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote

>>> >>> The russians dont care about their masses, just their elite.
>>> >
>>> >> That goes back hundreds of years, First read itin Catherine the
>>> Great
>>> >> in war against Sweden.
>>> >
>>> >Yeah, interesting look at that detail in the first episode of
>>> >https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/program/the-royals-keeping-the-crown
>>> >
>>> In the case of Russia verses Sweden Russian King Peter III's troops
>>> were being massacred. His defense was that he would just send more to
>>> the slaughter which saw Sweden capitulate due to much smaller
>>> population.
>>
>> Yes, Peter the Great, was that it?
>> A really tall guy.
>> I saw his regal dress in the Kremlin.
>> Must be an ideal guy for Putin.
>>
>>> Same happening in Ukraine Russia has no problem sending in more cannon
>>> fodder.
>>
>> Yes, so Russia will win.
>
> That remains to be seen. Modern wars aren't about the number of bodys
> and hasn't been for a hell of a long time now. Clearly didn't work for
> Russia with Afghanistan and I bet it doesn't with the Ukraine either.

Interesting to compare Afghanistan and the Ukraine.

Very similar population and areas.

>>> The best attack on Russia was by many countries seizing Russian
>>> oligarchs wealth/property>
>
>> Good idea, to steal from thieves, but that won't stop Putin.
>
> Agreed.
>
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_oligarchs>
>>> Believed how Putin hid his stolen wealth, which he accumulated after
>>> the fall of the Soviet Union using his Stasi/KGB position/connections.
>
>> So how much did they get from Putin's supposedly vast wealth hidden in
>> the West?
>
>> If he really has that much wealth, why should he have risked losing
>> them?
>
> Unlikely that he expected anything like the level of sanctions seen.
>
>>> <https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46525543>
>>> Russia being cut off from world banks will affect Russia for years.
>>> They will be back in the USSR economy.
>
>> Which must have been pretty good,
>
> Nope, their GDP wasn't even as great as the UK's.
>
>> for they were a superpower then.
>
> Only militarily.

On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 11:31:04 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 15:04:38 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Friday, 18 March 2022 at 07:29:19 UTC+11, petzl wrote:
>>> On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 03:36:27 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> >> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>> >
>>> >>> The russians dont care about their masses, just their elite.
>>> >
>>> >> That goes back hundreds of years, First read itin Catherine the
>>> Great
>>> >> in war against Sweden.
>>> >
>>> >Yeah, interesting look at that detail in the first episode of
>>> >https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/program/the-royals-keeping-the-crown
>>> >
>>> In the case of Russia verses Sweden Russian King Peter III's troops
>>> were being massacred. His defense was that he would just send more to
>>> the slaughter which saw Sweden capitulate due to much smaller
>>> population.
>>
>> Yes, Peter the Great, was that it?
>> A really tall guy.
>> I saw his regal dress in the Kremlin.
>> Must be an ideal guy for Putin.
>>
> Putin is Stasi he don't have a ounce of decency in him.
> <https://fee.org/articles/10-terrifying-facts-about-the-east-german-secret-police/>
> https://tinyurl.com/yjl22s6u
>>
>>> Same happening in Ukraine Russia has no problem sending in more cannon
>>> fodder.
>>
>> Yes, so Russia will win.
>>
> They will lose the war
> They already are the pariahs of the world.
> No one will trust them for decades
>>
>>> The best attack on Russia was by many countries seizing Russian
>>> oligarchs wealth/property>
>>
>> Good idea, to steal from thieves, but that won't stop Putin.
>>
> Russian oligarchs hold Putin's hidden wealth
> He is now bankrupt, Russia is now surviving on being a European "gas"
> station, Which is substantial, Europe will be looking at Egypt for oil
> gas pipe line.

> Would be surprised if the Russian pipeline going through Ukraine won't
> be destroyed?

That's complicated given that the Ukraine itself needs the gas.

>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_oligarchs>
>>> Believed how Putin hid his stolen wealth, which he accumulated after
>>> the fall of the Soviet Union using his Stasi/KGB position/connections.
>>
>> So how much did they get from Putin's supposedly vast wealth hidden in
>> the West?
>> If he really has that much wealth, why should he have risked losing
>> them?
>>
> Putin uses Stasi tactics to hide his wealth and family.
> He had set-up a command of dedicated fellow Stasi operatives
> (oligarchs) to control Russia's money.
>
> His children/grandchildren do not live in Russia, but UK, Holland.

That's not true of the latest ones.

>>> <https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46525543>
>>> Russia being cut off from world banks will affect Russia for years.
>>> They will be back in the USSR economy.
>>
>> Which must have been pretty good, for they were a superpower then.
>>
> Everyone was lining up for food food/clothes,etc. The only ones doing
> well were their politicions.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>> That remains to be seen. Modern wars aren't about the number of bodys
>>> and hasn't been for a hell of a long time now. Clearly didn't work for
>>> Russia with Afghanistan and I bet it doesn't with the Ukraine either.

>> Interesting to compare Afghanistan and the Ukraine.

>> Very similar population and areas.

>>>>> The best attack on Russia was by many countriesseizing Russian
>>>>> oligarchs wealth/property>

>>>> Good idea, to steal from thieves, but that won't stop Putin.

>>> Agreed.

> Russians will already be going without,

Not yet with anything that matters, just KFC etc.

> Putin will die of suspicious reasons,

Not a chance. He is much too ruthless for that.

> that is the Russian way.

Didn't happen with Gorby, Krushchev or Yeltsin.

> Plenty more to step in his place.

There always is.

> Russia will still be a un-trusted outcast for decades.

Sure, but they don't care.

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>>>>> The russians dont care about their masses, just their elite.
>>
>>>>> That goes back hundreds of years, First read it in Catherine the
>>>>> Great in war against Sweden.
>>
>>>> Yeah, interesting look at that detail in the first episode of
>>>> https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/program/the-royals-keeping-the-crown
>>
>>> In the case of Russia verses Sweden Russian King Peter III's troops
>>> were being massacred. His defense was that he would just send more to
>>> the slaughter which saw Sweden capitulate due to much smaller
>>> population.
>>
>>> Same happening in Ukraine Russia has no problem sending in more cannon
>>> fodder.
>>
>> That remains to be seen. It's different now and was in WW2 too.
>>
> Russians are being told every thing in the Ukraine war is going well
> No deaths reported.
> https://tinyurl.com/y9etnbqu

But they are having funerals of there troops killed there.

>>> The best attack on Russia was by many countriesseizing Russian
>>> oligarchs wealth/property

>> That remains to be seen. Most of them are anti Putin already.

> Well they have had to take their Stasi snouts andtrotters out of the
> trough because of Putin

Not really.

>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_oligarchs>
>>
>>> Believed how Putin hid his stolen wealth, which he accumulated after
>>> the fall of the Soviet Union using his Stasi/KGB position/connections.
>>> <https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46525543>
>>> Russia being cut off from world banks will affect Russia for years.
>>
>> Unlikely Putin cares and no european country has turned off his gas.

> Not yet

They won't, you watch.

> unlike Biden you do things with a working plan

They don't have one.

>>> They will be back in the USSR economy.

>> Unlikely given how dependant europe is on his gas.

> So far

Forever, you watch,

> Egypt can replace a pipeline to Germany for both oil and gas

Bullshit. They don't have anything like enough of either.

> <https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/israel-egypt-may-build-gas-pipeline-as-they-eye-european-market-1.1566779>
> https://tinyurl.com/ybqdxk7y

Just because some pig ignorant yank claims something...

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>> That remains to be seen. Modern wars aren't about the number of bodys
>>>> and hasn't been for a hell of a long time now. Clearly didn't work for
>>>> Russia with Afghanistan and I bet it doesn't with the Ukraine either.

>>> Interesting to compare Afghanistan and the Ukraine.

>>> Very similar population and areas.

>>>>>> The best attack on Russia was by many countriesseizing Russian
>>>>>> oligarchs wealth/property>

>>>>> Good idea, to steal from thieves, but that won't stop Putin.

>>>> Agreed.

>> Russians will already be going without,

> Not yet with anything that matters, just KFC etc.

>> Putin will die of suspicious reasons,

> Not a chance. He is much too ruthless for that.

>> that is the Russian way.

> Didn't happen with Gorby, Krushchev or Yeltsin.

Or even with Stalin. He just had a stroke and no
doctor was stupid enough to get involved so he
wouldn't be blamed if there was a bad outcome.

>> Plenty more to step in his place.

> There always is.

>> Russia will still be a un-trusted outcast for decades.

> Sure, but they don't care.

On Friday, 18 March 2022 at 11:31:10 UTC+11, petzl wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 15:04:38 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, 18 March 2022 at 07:29:19 UTC+11, petzl wrote:
> >> On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 03:36:27 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote
> >> >> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
> >> >
> >> >>> The russians dont care about their masses, just their elite.
> >> >
> >> >> That goes back hundreds of years, First read itin Catherine the Great
> >> >> in war against Sweden.
> >> >
> >> >Yeah, interesting look at that detail in the first episode of
> >> >https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/program/the-royals-keeping-the-crown
> >> >
> >> In the case of Russia verses Sweden Russian King Peter III's troops
> >> were being massacred. His defense was that he would just send more to
> >> the slaughter which saw Sweden capitulate due to much smaller
> >> population.
> >
> >Yes, Peter the Great, was that it?
> >A really tall guy.
> >I saw his regal dress in the Kremlin.
> >Must be an ideal guy for Putin.
> >
> Putin is Stasi he don't have a ounce of decency in him.

He is probably the most respected world leader today, outside the Anglosphere we inhabit.
I was brought up among Russian kids like Putin, so I understand him well. He is just wonderful, and I am proud of him.

> <https://fee.org/articles/10-terrifying-facts-about-the-east-german-secret-police/>
> https://tinyurl.com/yjl22s6u
> >
> >> Same happening in Ukraine Russia has no problem sending in more cannon
> >> fodder.
> >
> >Yes, so Russia will win.
> >
> They will lose the war
> They already are the pariahs of the world.
> No one will trust them for decades

We will see. I believe you are wrong on all counts.

> >> The best attack on Russia was by many countries seizing Russian
> >> oligarchs wealth/property>
> >
> >Good idea, to steal from thieves, but that won't stop Putin.
> >
> Russian oligarchs hold Putin's hidden wealth

In which case they may be rich - or were rich - but how is Putin rich?
The oligarchs are leftovers from the Yeltsin era of grab and sell.
Putin does not seem to care about them, probably because they are dispensable or irrelevant.

> He is now bankrupt, Russia is now surviving on being a European "gas"
> station, Which is substantial, Europe will be looking at Egypt for oil
> gas pipe line.

Russia is huge, has help from China, lots of *stan countries, sympathy from many Islamic and thirdworld countries including India.
It need not depend upon Europe.
Good thing to be self-reliant, and that was what Soviets were all about.

> Would be surprised if the Russian pipeline going through Ukraine won't
> be destroyed?

It will be worse for Europe. Russia has huge resources the West wants to grab, and is sore to have lost because of Putin.
Why was Ukraine trying to join NATO?
It was part of the West's plan to encircle Russia, topple Putin, put in their puppets to rule, then rob the land.
(Nothing new, standard policy, eg Churchill kicked out Mossadegh of Iran just to get cheap oil.)
They will pursue it to the last Ukrainian.
While making money from the trouble.
Point is, if they cannot topple Putin and loot Russia, their investments in Ukraine (coup, etc.) will have been futile.

> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_oligarchs>
> >> Believed how Putin hid his stolen wealth, which he accumulated after
> >> the fall of the Soviet Union using his Stasi/KGB position/connections.
> >
> >So how much did they get from Putin's supposedly vast wealth hidden in the West?
> >If he really has that much wealth, why should he have risked losing them?
> >
> Putin uses Stasi tactics to hide his wealth and family.

The fact remains that the West has not managed to confiscate any in the West, after making a lot of sound about how Putin has stashed his wealth in the West.
They have not found any.
Putin says he is very rich indeed in the love and loyalty of his countrymen.

> He had set-up a command of dedicated fellow Stasi operatives
> (oligarchs) to control Russia's money.

So it is Russia's money, not his.
>
> His children/grandchildren do not live in Russia, but UK, Holland.

Their choice. Nothing to do with Putin.
> >
> >> <https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46525543>
> >> Russia being cut off from world banks will affect Russia for years.
> >> They will be back in the USSR economy.
> >
> >Which must have been pretty good, for they were a superpower then.
> >
> Everyone was lining up for food food/clothes,etc. The only ones doing
> well were their politicions.

Not really.
> --
> Petzl
> The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
> people's money. #Sir Ronald Millar
> All governments lie about some things, but Ordogs totalitarian
> governments lie about everything.
> On March fourteenth, in the year of our Lord. Eighteen eighty three
> Karl Marx made his most important contribution to mankind...
> He died
>
> There is no difference between communism and socialism,
> except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end:
> communism proposes to enslave men by force,
> socialism - by vote.
> It is merely the difference between murder and suicide
> #Margaret Thatcher

On 17/03/2022 9:35 pm, Fran wrote:
> On 17/03/2022 18:35, Fran wrote:
>> On 17/03/2022 10:51 am, Fran didn't write the following:
>>>
>>> Do you have a big cock? I could suck it until it was as hard as
>>> granite and then you could fuck me up the arse like a jackhammer.
>>> What do you say, big boy?
>>
>
> Stop forging me you fucking saddo.

Bwhahahahahahahaha!

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>> Putin will die of suspicious reasons,

>>> Not a chance. He is much too ruthless for that.

>>>> that is the Russian way.

>>> Didn't happen with Gorby, Krushchev or Yeltsin.

>> Or even with Stalin. He just had a stroke and no
>> doctor was stupid enough to get involved so he
>> wouldn't be blamed if there was a bad outcome.

> Thats the soviet line,

That's what the evidence shows.

> who knows,

Anyone with even half a clue;

> Trotsky died with a ice axe buried in his back.

And Stalin, Gorby, Yeltsin and Krushchev didn't.

> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/13/trotsky-ice-axe-murder-mexico-city>
> https://tinyurl.com/ycmt6gvr

Just because that shit rag claims something...

Those fuckwits couldn't even get the number of shots that Rolfe fired
right.

> Russian saying it is lies that define them!

Putin doesn't.

> "What is the cost of lies? It’s not that we’ll mistake them for the
> truth. The real danger is that if we hear enough lies,
> then we no longer recognize the truth at all."

Just more mindless bullshit.

Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote
> On Friday, 18 March 2022 at 11:31:10 UTC+11, petzl wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 15:04:38 -0700 (PDT), Arindam Banerjee
>> <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, 18 March 2022 at 07:29:19 UTC+11, petzl wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 03:36:27 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> >> <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> >> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> >
>> >> >>> The russians dont care about their masses, just their elite.
>> >> >
>> >> >> That goes back hundreds of years, First read itin Catherine the
>> Great
>> >> >> in war against Sweden.
>> >> >
>> >> >Yeah, interesting look at that detail in the first episode of
>> >> >https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/program/the-royals-keeping-the-crown
>> >> >
>> >> In the case of Russia verses Sweden Russian King Peter III's troops
>> >> were being massacred. His defense was that he would just send more to
>> >> the slaughter which saw Sweden capitulate due to much smaller
>> >> population.
>> >
>> >Yes, Peter the Great, was that it?
>> >A really tall guy.
>> >I saw his regal dress in the Kremlin.
>> >Must be an ideal guy for Putin.
>> >
>> Putin is Stasi he don't have a ounce of decency in him.

> He is probably the most respected world leadertoday, outside the
> Anglosphere we inhabit.

More of your mindless bullshit.

> I was brought up among Russian kids like Putin,

But are too stupid to even work out the most basic stuff.

> so I understand him well.

Bullshit you do.

> He is just wonderful, and I am proud of him.

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof of
what a terminal fuckwit you have always been...

>> <https://fee.org/articles/10-terrifying-facts-about-the-east-german-secret-police/>
>> https://tinyurl.com/yjl22s6u
>> >
>> >> Same happening in Ukraine Russia has no problem sending in more
>> cannon
>> >> fodder.
>> >
>> >Yes, so Russia will win.
>> >
>> They will lose the war
>> They already are the pariahs of the world.
>> No one will trust them for decades

> We will see. I believe you are wrong on all counts.

>> >> The best attack on Russia was by many countries seizing Russian
>> >> oligarchs wealth/property>
>> >
>> >Good idea, to steal from thieves, but that won't stop Putin.
>> >
>> Russian oligarchs hold Putin's hidden wealth

> In which case they may be rich - or were rich - but how is Putin rich?
> The oligarchs are leftovers from the Yeltsin era of grab and sell.
> Putin does not seem to care about them, probably because they are
> dispensable or irrelevant.
>
>> He is now bankrupt, Russia is now surviving on being a European "gas"
>> station, Which is substantial, Europe will be looking at Egypt for oil
>> gas pipe line.

> Russia is huge,

Irrelevant.

> has help from China,

Didn't help them with Afghanistan.

> lots of *stan countries,

Didn't help them with Afghanistan.

> sympathy from many Islamic and thirdworld countries including India.

Didn't help them with Afghanistan.

> It need not depend upon Europe.

Pity about who they sell their oil and gas to.

> Good thing to be self-reliant,

They arent.

> and that was what Soviets were all about.

Pity that didnt even deliver a GDP like the UK.

>> Would be surprised if the Russian pipeline going through Ukraine won't
>> be destroyed?
>
> It will be worse for Europe. Russia has huge resources the West wants
> to grab,

Not grab, buy.

> and is sore to have lost because of Putin.

Bullshit.

> Why was Ukraine trying to join NATO?

Because is works a fucking sight better than russia.

> It was part of the West's plan to encircle Russia, topplePutin, put in
> their puppets to rule, then rob the land.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken curry muncher
fantasys.

That is what russia did ever since the war, fuckwit.

> (Nothing new, standard policy, eg Churchill kickedout Mossadegh of
> Iran just to get cheap oil.)

Nope, to avoid going broke.

> They will pursue it to the last Ukrainian.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken curry muncher
fantasys.

> While making money from the trouble.
> Point is, if they cannot topple Putin and loot Russia, theirinvestments
> in Ukraine (coup, etc.) will have been futile.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed drunken curry muncher
fantasys.

>> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_oligarchs>
>> >> Believed how Putin hid his stolen wealth, which he accumulated after
>> >> the fall of the Soviet Union using his Stasi/KGB
>> position/connections.
>> >
>> >So how much did they get from Putin's supposedly vast wealth hidden in
>> the West?
>> >If he really has that much wealth, why should he have risked losing
>> them?
>> >
>> Putin uses Stasi tactics to hide his wealth and family.

> The fact remains that the West has not managed to confiscate any in the
> West,

Wrong, as always.

after making a lot of sound about how Putin has stashed his wealth
> in the West.
> They have not found any.

Wrong, as always.

> Putin says he is very rich indeed in the love and loyalty of his
> countrymen.

That remains to be seen...

>> He had set-up a command of dedicated fellow Stasi operatives
>> (oligarchs) to control Russia's money.
>
> So it is Russia's money, not his.
>>
>> His children/grandchildren do not live in Russia, but UK, Holland.
>
> Their choice. Nothing to do with Putin.
>> >
>> >> <https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46525543>
>> >> Russia being cut off from world banks will affect Russia for years.
>> >> They will be back in the USSR economy.
>> >
>> >Which must have been pretty good, for they were a superpower then.
>> >
>> Everyone was lining up for food food/clothes,etc. The only ones doing
>> well were their politicions.
>
> Not really.