On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 08:43:23 +0000, Ashley Booth wrote:

> Was also the home of ITN and the TV Times.

And ATV before they moved to near Marble Arch.

--
TOJ.

On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 11:07:32 -0000 (UTC), The Other John
<nomail@here.org> wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 08:43:23 +0000, Ashley Booth wrote:
>
>> Was also the home of ITN and the TV Times.
>
>And ATV before they moved to near Marble Arch.

I thought Rediffusion and ATV were great rivals, but I suppose they
co-operated over the London franchises (Rediffusion weekdays, ATV
weekends).

I read somewhere that Granada nearly ran out of money and had to be
baled out by Rediffusion.

On 24/12/2022 18:57, charles wrote:
> In article <to7fe0$2b52p$2@dont-email.me>,
> Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>> On 24/12/2022 12:37, Scott wrote:
>>> On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 11:47:54 +0000, Vir Campestris
>>> <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> Yes indeed. This is why when Charles stated 'The large screnn tv
>>> almost certainly has an internet connection, though', I responded
>>> (ironically) with the words, 'Almost certainly. All pensioners have
>>> high speed broadband into the home, especially those on the BT Basic
>>> package'. I specifically referenced BT Basic to provide an example of
>>> a customer without an internet connection.
>
>> It was rather a sweeping statement. My TV is 32" which maybe still
>> counts as "large screen", and it used to have an Ethernet connection to
>> my router, but since I moved house it's out of range unless I run a long
>> wire around the skirting board, which I am not inclined to do, as,
>> though it calls itself "smart" it has become less and less smart with
>> time as is common.
>
> or, you could use a WiFi system and receive a wireless feed to the receiver
> behind the set. Saves draping a cable across the fireplace.

Easier to connect my laptop to the TV with HDMI. Then I can play MP4s as
well, such as downloaded films using VLC which can incorporate subtitles
from .srt files. There are lots of foreign films available from YouTube,
and, if they don't have English subtitles, I can download the subtitle
file from elsewhere.

--
Max Demian

On Sunday, 25 December 2022 at 08:42:02 UTC, Scott wrote:

> At my primary school we had a 'radio' in each classroom
It was just a loudspeaker.

Bill

On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 18:38:51 -0800 (PST), "wrightsaerials@aol.com"
<wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, 25 December 2022 at 08:42:02 UTC, Scott wrote:
>
>> At my primary school we had a 'radio' in each classroom
>It was just a loudspeaker.
>
I preferred to think of it as a pioneering early version of a network
:-)

>>>>
>>> Yes indeed. This is why when Charles stated 'The large screnn tv
>>> almost certainly has an internet connection, though', I responded
>>> (ironically) with the words, 'Almost certainly. All pensioners have
>>> high speed broadband into the home, especially those on the BT Basic
>>> package'. I specifically referenced BT Basic to provide an example of
>>> a customer without an internet connection.
>>>
>>> In summary, Charles said that large screen TVs almost certainly have
>>> intenet connection and I pointed out that some homes do not. I take
>>> it we can now agree on this?
>>>
>>
>>This is now. Where will we be with broadband uptake in a decade? Probably
>>had the same arguments when that new fangled electricity took over from gas
>>lights.
>
>The way I see it is that we could be returning to the very old days
>when televisons were on cable and (before my time) there were
>Rediffusion radios, also wired.
>
>I can remember when I was young the cable TV company had a much higher
>aerial than domestic installations able to pick up UTV as well as STV.
>When football match was not shown in Scotland, people used to go to
>someone with cable (with their McEwans Export obviously) to watch the
>game there.

Same here in Cambridge some had British Relay they could receive ITV
London which was regarded by many as a much better programme source than
the local ITV Anglia!..

Course that was in the sixties and seventies the mast 170 foot high! has
long gone but oddments of the cabling can be seen around..

--
Tony Sayer

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person.

Give him a keyboard, and he will reveal himself.

On 25/12/2022 11:30, Scott wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 11:07:32 -0000 (UTC), The Other John
> <nomail@here.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 08:43:23 +0000, Ashley Booth wrote:
>>
>>> Was also the home of ITN and the TV Times.
>> And ATV before they moved to near Marble Arch.
> I thought Rediffusion and ATV were great rivals, but I suppose they
> co-operated over the London franchises (Rediffusion weekdays, ATV
> weekends).
>
>
The same used to be said about Thames and LWT, they competed indirectly
for advertising in London, but behind the scenes there was unofficial
and friendly co operation.

ATV did indeed occupy  a floor in what was called Television House,
though I don't think there were any technical facilities or studios ?
(unlike ITN and Rediffusion )

Thames started out from their inception in 1968 at Television House, the
6pm Today show came from the foyer there (today it's a great big  Herman
Miller (posh office furniture) showroom).

They moved to Euston in 1969 in time for 625/colour (As well as taking
over ABC's big production studios at Teddington)

On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 11:47:54 +0000, Vir Campestris
<vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On 20/12/2022 16:34, Scott wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 12:29:41 +0000, Vir Campestris
>> <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 08/12/2022 15:20, Scott wrote:
>>>> Almost certainly. All pensioners have high speed broadband into the
>>>> home, especially those on the BT Basic package.
>>>
>>> Until recently the fastest speed in our village was 3MBPS. Others are
>>> even less lucky.
>>>
>> Are you suffering from irony bypass?
>
>The old lines were copper, now we have glass. No iron involved :P
>
>There are a lot of people who not merely don't have broadband, but can't
>have it.

and we have had fibre in the street for 20 years but nobody is interestested in
connecting it to the houses.
--

Martin in Zuid Holland

On 24/12/2022 12:37, Scott wrote:
> In summary, Charles said that large screen TVs almost certainly have
> intenet connection and I pointed out that some homes do not. I take
> it we can now agree on this?

We can. Even if it's taken me a week.

Andy

On 24/12/2022 15:08, Tweed wrote:
> It’s already happening. There’s a big new housing estate just behind me and
> there’s not a TV aerial to be seen. I know that signal strength isn’t
> adequate for indoor antennas, so I’m assuming they’ve all been offered
> something from BT or VM (each house has fibre from both Open Reach. And VM)
> that they couldn’t refuse.

I moved into such an estate in the 1980s. (In Bracknell)

They fed a coax cable to all the houses. It carried UHF TV, VHF radio,
and various subscription services. Aerials were banned.

(There was no internet back then.)

Andy