On 9/10/2021 12:21 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 9/10/2021 3:10 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 9/10/2021 10:57 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>>>
>>>
>>> your ignorance is showing. https://www.productreview.com.au/ is the
>>> most authoritative site for getting info and opinions about products
>>> from consumers. ie. ppl who actually use them. I have done reviews
>>> myself. that's the first point. secondly, if most ppl ie. the vast
>>> majority, are saying a product is crap, what are the chances that it
>>> is? here's a clue.. 99.99% certainty it is!
>>
>> And how many reviews are actually from ordinary people and not shills
>> for the manufacturers?
>
> Not that *any* of it matters given that *no one* seems to be commenting
> about how effective it is as a polish on polycarbonate headlights which
> is actually what the conversation was about :)
>

Well actually that was commented on but you ignore it as it doesn't
support your claim.

> It's effectiveness as a metal polish is totally irrelevant to any
> discussion going on here....
>
>

It's relevant to what the product is marketed as and it's
ineffectiveness for that purpose - namely polishing.

Brasso isn't nearly as effective as products marketed specifically for
the purpose of polishing headlights and your noise to the contrary isn't
going to change that fact.

On 9/10/21 9:42 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 9/10/2021 8:20 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 9/10/2021 7:06 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>>>>
>>> The US army, and the Australian army, have very extensive training
>>> regimes for *regular soldiers*. The Australian Army has an Army
>>> Apprentice Training School currently near Wodonga but used to be a
>>> Balcombe. Actually, the school is the main logistics training school
>>> (ALTC-Bandiana) but the apprentices are trained at Latchford Barracks
>>> (Bonegilla). The only difference between the US and Australia is that
>>> the US doesn't have apprentices. The difference between army
>>> apprentices and general army trainees - they sign up at a younger
>>> age. In the Australian army, you can still become a mechanic without
>>> being an apprentice but the sign on is longer. One of my friends from
>>> my home town did his mechanic training in the regular army and he is,
>>> I am told, very good at his craft. The US trade training for *regular
>>> soldiers* is as extensive as the Australian army trade training.
>>>
>> Whatever - you're wrong but I can't be bothered to keep up this
>> pointless argument.
>
> And this is how it goes. You see, in his mind he has won this argument
> even though he is completely wrong and made himself look like a total
> cock. None of that matters as you've given up and he chalks that up as a
> "victory". He just totally ignores the fact that it's completely pyrrhic
> and all he's managed to show is how ridiculous he's prepared to make
> himself look in order to think he's "right".

Hey Darren, prove me wrong. Here's a thought, roll out the trade papers
you claim to possess but which no one on this planet has ever seen.
>
> He does it *all* the time, including the rolling out of conveniently
> placed "friends" just like he's done here :)

Yeah Darren but *my friends* are real. Your trade papers are imaginary!

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On 9/10/21 9:54 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 9/10/2021 12:39 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 9/10/21 11:49 am, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 8/10/2021 11:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 8/10/21 11:07 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I'll bet the fine people of Western Australia are beside themselves
>>>>> with excitement at the fact that Automotive Tradespeople are
>>>>> Licensed, because if this completely clueless wankstain is any
>>>>> indicator of the level of competency required to meets the
>>>>> licensing approval "standard" then they must have had some *real*
>>>>> fucking munts in the trade that needed "weeding out" :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Been watching "Car Wizard" videos on Youtube, his most recent video
>>>> is about a small Buick that had been to a dealership 4 times for the
>>>> same problems, check engine light on, engine temp all over the place
>>>> and the alternator light was on sometimes.
>>>> Dealer changed the engine oil and the serpentine belt and said it
>>>> was fixed, turned out the fault was a faulty thermostat and a bad
>>>> battery but the dealer could neither find the faults or fix them. >
>>>> That is just one of hundreds of horror car dealer stories on the
>>> internet.
>>>
>>> Why am I not surprised by that?
>>>
>>> The history of the dealership service world is one of incompetence,
>>> of gouging, and of customers being treated like mugs. They are the
>>> very worst place you can ever take your car to be repaired.
>>>
>>>> If that's the standard of work that "licensed" dealer "technicians"
>>>> do then I pity car owners who take their car to dealerships for
>>>> anything more than a basic service.
>>>
>>> Yep. They employ automatons who aren't capable of independent
>>> thought, but then they don't need to be as they're part of the
>>> sausage machine running cars trough for oil and filters all day long
>>> and not ever dealing with anything more complicated than that.
>>
>> The mechanics in all dealerships I worked in didn't do the lube jockey
>> work. They employed minimal skills people, like you, to do that low
>> level stuff. Unlike you, I have actually worked in dealerships and
>> know what goes on in them.
>
> Yep, T/A's did the high volume run of the mill stuff like servicing,
> techs were fixing cars. Not to say techs didn't do servicing when
> required but that wasn't their primary role.
>
> I can vouch for that being the case at Holden, Daihatsu, Subaru, Suzuki,
> BMW, Toyota and Honda from first hand experience.
>
I can vouch for it at Holden, Ford, Honda, Case (tractor). You wouldn't
waste a tech's time spinning filters and dropping oil. You employ
Noddies for that role.

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On 9/10/2021 1:37 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 9/10/21 3:10 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 9/10/2021 10:57 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 9/10/2021 11:19 am, jonz wrote:
>>>> On 10/8/2021 9:09 PM, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 8/10/2021 8:37 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/10/2021 11:29 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/10/2021 1:09 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 6 October 2021 at 19:39:34 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Actually no, the new Brasso is pretty much liquid and doesn't
>>>>>>>>> work at all.
>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>   Brasso has *always* been a liquid, that requires a good
>>>>>>>> shaking before use. However, a liquid it was/is!.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And it works just fine. Windscreen boy has no fucking idea.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It *doesn't* work anymore. The reviews back this up as it turns out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/brasso-metal-polish" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/brasso-metal-polish
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Way to go "All Imperial Jeep" boy, you're wrong again!
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>  It`s *on line* so it *must* be a *fact*....UH-HUH!.
>>>
>>>
>>> your ignorance is showing. https://www.productreview.com.au/ is the
>>> most authoritative site for getting info and opinions about products
>>> from consumers. ie. ppl who actually use them. I have done reviews
>>> myself. that's the first point. secondly, if most ppl ie. the vast
>>> majority, are saying a product is crap, what are the chances that it
>>> is? here's a clue.. 99.99% certainty it is!
>>
>> And how many reviews are actually from ordinary people and not shills
>> for the manufacturers?
>
>
> Those reviews are from people using it to polish metal, nothing there
> about using it to polish plastic headlamps.
>

Good god you're thick.

The very reason Brasso *was* effective on headlights was because it used
to be an effective polish for *any* surface including the metals which
is what it was specifically marketed as being for.

It's not an effective polish anymore, period.

On 9/10/21 9:55 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 9/10/2021 6:43 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 9/10/21 6:17 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 9/10/2021 11:53 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 8/10/2021 10:34 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Been watching "Car Wizard" videos on Youtube, his most recent video
>>>>> is about a small Buick that had been to a dealership 4 times for
>>>>> the same problems, check engine light on, engine temp all over the
>>>>> place and the alternator light was on sometimes.
>>>>> Dealer changed the engine oil and the serpentine belt and said it
>>>>> was fixed, turned out the fault was a faulty thermostat and a bad
>>>>> battery but the dealer could neither find the faults or fix them.
>>>>> That is just one of hundreds of horror car dealer stories on the
>>>>> internet.
>>>>> If that's the standard of work that "licensed" dealer "technicians"
>>>>> do then I pity car owners who take their car to dealerships for
>>>>> anything more than a basic service.
>>>>>
>>>> Years ago I had an 1800. It started backfiring so I took it to the
>>>> local BMC dealer. Picked it up that evening still backfiring was
>>>> told to bring it back Monday for further diagnosis. I decided to
>>>> have a look myself, it took about 5 minutes to find that the rubber
>>>> pipe from the PCV valve to the inlet manifold had perished. Never
>>>> went back there again.
>>>
>>>
>>> They most likely never even looked at it that day.
>>
>> With an air leak on that hose sufficient to cause a backfire, it
>> should have idled like a bag of shit, if it idled at all and maybe
>> even have had a high idle. The backfire would have been caused by
>> enleanment on one or more cylinders. Should have been easy to diagnose
>> such a fault with a vacuum gauge and possibly a stethescope/rubber
>> hose. Actually, with an SU carb, it's a matter of seconds to diagnose
>> a lean condition. Just lift the piston on the SU while the engine is
>> idling. If the engine revs die, she's too lean.
>>
>
>
> Which suggests it never made it into the shop to get looked at.
>
>
It would seem so, wouldn't it? As soon as I saw backfire mentioned (carb
or exhaust), I thought lean mixture. It just naturally follows.

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On 9/10/21 10:03 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 9/10/2021 6:46 pm, lindsay wrote:
>> On 9/10/2021 3:39 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>> The mechanics in all dealerships I worked in
>>
>> How many tomas? 3?. 8?. 39?. You had 6 jobs in 8 years , wasn't it,
>> shit fer brains?
>
> His "Journeyman" period, wasn't it? I thought it was 8 jobs in 6 years.
> Either way, I would think about the only "learning" he did in that time
> was discovering that everyone thought he was a useless no-nothing cunt
> who couldn't carry himself and he got shown the door.
>
They thought that about you *before* you got in the door. That's why you
never got any apprenticeship ever.

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On 9/10/2021 3:51 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 9/10/21 11:48 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 9/10/2021 9:19 am, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 9/10/21 6:54 am, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 23:34:15 +1100, Daryl wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/10/21 11:07 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Been watching "Car Wizard" videos on Youtube, his most recent
>>>>> video is
>>>>> about a small Buick that had been to a dealership 4 times for the
>>>>> same
>>>>> problems, check engine light on, engine temp all over the place
>>>>> and the
>>>>> alternator light was on sometimes.
>>>>> Dealer changed the engine oil and the serpentine belt and said it was
>>>>> fixed, turned out the fault was a faulty thermostat and a bad battery
>>>>> but the dealer could neither find the faults or fix them.
>>>>> That is just one of hundreds of horror car dealer stories on the
>>>>> internet.
>>>>> If that's the standard of work that "licensed" dealer
>>>>> "technicians" do
>>>>> then I pity car owners who take their car to dealerships for anything
>>>>> more than a basic service.
>>>>
>>
>> so genius, if we don't take our cars to dealers for repairs or
>> service, where are we supposed to take them? to backyard unqualified
>> mechanics like noddy?  :)
>>
> That sounds like a very good way to render any and all warranty null
> and void. That's why Darren isn't doing anything to his wife's Santa
> Fe. Made worse by the fact that it is also under a lease agreement. It
> must really piss him off not being able to lay a spanner on it.

yeah, I guess so

>>
>>>> Corporal Agarn has spoken...
>>
>>
>> I had to google that lol
>>
>>
>>>
>>> But not said terribly much of value. What he doesn't seem to
>>> understand is the value of *training*. For instance, the Car Wizard
>>> actually did a form of apprenticeship - in the US army. The training
>>> regime for tradespeople in the US army would be second to none - and
>>> the Car Wizard is the epitome of that. If you understand the system
>>> and know how it all works, you can diagnose faults in it.
>>>
>>> Once again, the FLCJC put their foot in it.
>>>
>>
>> with such ability with their feet maybe they should take up wine
>> making in Italy?  :)
>>
>>
> Oh the imagery!
>

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On 9/10/2021 4:31 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 9/10/21 2:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 9/10/2021 8:19 am, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The training regime for tradespeople in the US army would be second
>>> to none
>>
>> You must be joking, I've known a whole lot of people who were with
>> the Yanks in Vietnam, their opinions of the skills of US maintainers
>> are about as low as it gets. Basically they were trained on one
>> thing, one engine, one gun, one radio and were totally lost outside
>> of that. They threw stuff away rather than fix it, which was gold to
>> the Australians who were long on fixing skills but short on supplies.
>
>
> My Warrant Officer brother has a low opinion of US Military, "poorly
> trained and poorly disciplined", "an Australian Private is better
> trained than a US Sargent", "10 Aussie Diggers are worth 100 US GI's".
> Only good thing he says about them is that they have the best and
> latest equipment and lots of it.
>

on 2/9/21 you said "My brother has been there (Afghanistan) at least 3
times, last time he was 2IC of the Australian Forces". now you say he
was only a WO2

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On 9/10/2021 10:05 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 9/10/21 8:15 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 9/10/2021 11:46 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 9/10/2021 1:31 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 9/10/2021 9:45 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 9/10/2021 12:27 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whether Brasso has changed it's formula and/or is no longer an
>>>>>> effective metal polish has nothing whatsoever to do with the
>>>>>> topic of polishing polycarbonate headlights. Brasso may or may
>>>>>> not be effective at polishing metal these days and I couldn't
>>>>>> tell you as I don't use it for that. However what I *can* tell
>>>>>> you is that the current liquid variety is *very* effective as a
>>>>>> plastic polish, and unlike the FLC loudmouths doing all the
>>>>>> irrelevant screaming I can tell you that from experience :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They really don't need any help in making themselves look like
>>>>>> utter spastics, do they? :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> nothing could be more stupid than someone who blocks posters, cos
>>>>> he says he doesn't care what they say, then asks his lacky to post
>>>>> what they've said cos he wants to know what was said, but can't
>>>>> see it cos he has them blocked! as you did in your last post lol.
>>>>> what could be more stupid than that!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Completely right, jonzie is just too dumb to see he's being used as
>>>> his pawn. But back to his claim that the new Brasso works on
>>>> headlights... if you're *sanding* you should wet sand. The new
>>>> Brasso is as effective as water in that application.
>>>>
>>>> He's clueless as always and completely wrong on the effectiveness
>>>> of Brasso.
>>>>
>>>
>>> yes we can never believe anything he says so why would we believe..
>>> ".. the current liquid variety is *very* effective as a plastic
>>> polish, I can tell you that from experience".
>>>
>>
>>
>> It's not marketed as a plastic polish anyway, it's a metal polish but
>> in any event it's completely ineffective now.
>>
>> Water would work just as well for wet sanding.
>
> You would have to question why you wouldn't simply buy a polish
> designed for the task at hand, one that you *know* isn't going to
> damage the polycarbonate in any way. After all, Brasso has an acid as
> at least one of its components.
>

because he's an untrained unskilled backyarder who does things on the cheap

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On 9/10/21 6:40 pm, lindsay wrote:
> On 9/10/2021 12:27 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>> Whether Brasso has changed it's formula and/or is no longer an
>> effective metal polish has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic of
>> polishing polycarbonate headlights. Brasso may or may not be effective
>> at polishing metal these days and I couldn't tell you as I don't use
>> it for that. However what I *can* tell you is that the current liquid
>> variety is *very* effective as a plastic polish, and unlike the FLC
>> loudmouths doing all the irrelevant screaming I can tell you that from
>> experience :)
>>
>> They really don't need any help in making themselves look like utter
>> spastics, do they? :)
>
> Lots of products, inc Brasso will do the job. I'd imagine so would
> Silvo. And several hand cleaners too. Depends on how hard you want to
> rub, and how long your prepared to work at it. Mate across the road
> sells second hand parts, and is forever coming over and "can i have a
> bit of spit and polish" The stuff I use to trick up fibreglass flowcoat
> is the same/similar to this:
> https://sydneytools.com.au/product/3m-as010623457-865ml-fast-cut-plus-extreme?gclid=Cj0KCQjw-4SLBhCVARIsACrhWLVFKC7Tao-1sqmxQlw2cGTusN6-KAiRTdY2OGcbsVI7l01PgWUnu8gaAj3yEALw_wcB
> I believe the guy who detailed my navara used similar, and the
> headlights looked new. If your selling a car and need your headlights
> cleaned up, then it's fine. So is anything mildly abrasive, inc Brasso
> (with the tin lid!). I think Jonz mentioned Jif. Maybe a bit harsh,
> (it'll be quick!) but i dont see an issue with that. If it cleans 'em ,
> then jobs done. Maybe do it again in 2-3 years time? So what?
>
>

Don't forget toothpaste, that works too:-)

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On 10/10/2021 12:06 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 9/10/21 6:40 pm, lindsay wrote:
>> On 9/10/2021 12:27 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>> Whether Brasso has changed it's formula and/or is no longer an
>>> effective metal polish has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic of
>>> polishing polycarbonate headlights. Brasso may or may not be
>>> effective at polishing metal these days and I couldn't tell you as I
>>> don't use it for that. However what I *can* tell you is that the
>>> current liquid variety is *very* effective as a plastic polish, and
>>> unlike the FLC loudmouths doing all the irrelevant screaming I can
>>> tell you that from experience :)
>>>
>>> They really don't need any help in making themselves look like utter
>>> spastics, do they? :)
>>
>> Lots of products, inc Brasso will do the job. I'd imagine so would
>> Silvo. And several hand cleaners too. Depends on how hard you want to
>> rub, and how long your prepared to work at it. Mate across the road
>> sells second hand parts, and is forever coming over and "can i have a
>> bit of spit and polish" The stuff I use to trick up fibreglass
>> flowcoat is the same/similar to this:
>> https://sydneytools.com.au/product/3m-as010623457-865ml-fast-cut-plus-extreme?gclid=Cj0KCQjw-4SLBhCVARIsACrhWLVFKC7Tao-1sqmxQlw2cGTusN6-KAiRTdY2OGcbsVI7l01PgWUnu8gaAj3yEALw_wcB
>> I believe the guy who detailed my navara used similar, and the
>> headlights looked new. If your selling a car and need your headlights
>> cleaned up, then it's fine. So is anything mildly abrasive, inc Brasso
>> (with the tin lid!). I think Jonz mentioned Jif. Maybe a bit harsh,
>> (it'll be quick!) but i dont see an issue with that. If it cleans 'em
>> , then jobs done. Maybe do it again in 2-3 years time? So what?
>>
>>
>
> Don't forget toothpaste, that works too:-)

It does. Works very well in fact. But it makes a mess when machine
polishing and needs to be thinned with water.

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On Sat, 9 Oct 2021 19:20:47 +1000, keithr0 wrote:

>>
> Whatever - you're wrong but I can't be bothered to keep up this
> pointless argument.

Some people just aren't made for usenet.

alvey

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On Sat, 9 Oct 2021 21:42:35 +1100, Noddy wrote:

> On 9/10/2021 8:20 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 9/10/2021 7:06 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>>>>
>>> The US army, and the Australian army, have very extensive training
>>> regimes for *regular soldiers*. The Australian Army has an Army
>>> Apprentice Training School currently near Wodonga but used to be a
>>> Balcombe. Actually, the school is the main logistics training school
>>> (ALTC-Bandiana) but the apprentices are trained at Latchford Barracks
>>> (Bonegilla). The only difference between the US and Australia is that
>>> the US doesn't have apprentices. The difference between army
>>> apprentices and general army trainees - they sign up at a younger age.
>>> In the Australian army, you can still become a mechanic without being
>>> an apprentice but the sign on is longer. One of my friends from my
>>> home town did his mechanic training in the regular army and he is, I
>>> am told, very good at his craft. The US trade training for *regular
>>> soldiers* is as extensive as the Australian army trade training.
>>>
>> Whatever - you're wrong but I can't be bothered to keep up this
>> pointless argument.
>
> And this is how it goes. You see, in his mind he has won this argument
> even though he is completely wrong and made himself look like a total
> cock. None of that matters as you've given up and he chalks that up as a
> "victory". He just totally ignores the fact that it's completely pyrrhic
> and all he's managed to show is how ridiculous he's prepared to make
> himself look in order to think he's "right".
>
> He does it *all* the time, including the rolling out of conveniently
> placed "friends" just like he's done here :)

Oh Der Der, or should I say, "Oh 'One Hand Tied Behind My Back'", you've
done it again! The craven liar who staggers away from the smoking ruins of
his claims and attempts to argue them into Castle Killfail from where he
proclaims victory. What a buffoon!

'How To Win A Flame War' by Der Der.

"It doesn't matter *now* much they try, the more they hang shit on me the
more of a fixated reject they make themselves look and this is *exactly*
what I was talking about when I stated that I could "wipe my arse" with
Alvey with one hand tied behind my back."

You're a loser Fraudster. Always have been, always will be.

alvey
And btw... Unsurprisingly, you know neither how to spell 'Pyrrhic', *nor*
what it means.

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On 10/9/2021 5:42 PM, keithr0 wrote:
> On 9/10/2021 4:00 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 9/10/21 4:05 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 9/10/2021 3:01 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 9/10/21 3:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>> On 9/10/2021 2:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/10/2021 8:19 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The training regime for tradespeople in the US army would be
>>>>>>> second to none
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You must be joking,
>>>>>
>>>>> ROTFL :)
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll bet you he's deadly serious, which only serves to highlight
>>>>> how clueless he actually is :)
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've known a whole lot of people who were with the Yanks in
>>>>>> Vietnam, their opinions of the skills of US maintainers are about
>>>>>> as low as it gets. Basically they were trained on one thing, one
>>>>>> engine, one gun, one radio and were totally lost outside of that.
>>>>>> They threw stuff away rather than fix it, which was gold to the
>>>>>> Australians who were long on fixing skills but short on supplies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Heard similar stories from people. Americans tend to dispose of
>>>>> stuff rather than repair it because they have precious few people
>>>>> who can actually repair anything.
>>>>>
>>>> That's because they don't have an apprenticeship system to speak
>>>> of. They all like you - no clear cut understanding of the
>>>> underlying theory of operation so cockups are frequent.
>>>
>>> Didn't you just say "The training regime for tradespeople in the US
>>> army would be second to none"?
>>
>> Point 1, the army training scheme is not an apprenticeship.
>> Point 2, most *mechanics* in the US just learn *on the job* with
>> typically no formal training and no apprenticeship as we know it.
>> Point 3, Some mechanics sign up for courses at private tech colleges.
>> Point 4, not every mechanic in the US does their mechanical training
>> in the army. In fact *most* don't.
>> Point 5, some companies, ie. Chamberlain John Deere, have excellent
>> training regimes, including in-depth resource material, albeit
>> product oriented. Used them myself for developing learning resources.
>> Point 6, army mechanic training resource materials are *very*
>> comprehensive and cover basic principles such as hydraulics and
>> electrical very well.
>> Point 7, If you are OS working in oil or mining, you will find
>> mechanics from Australia and the UK in abundance. This is because
>> mechanics who have done a full apprenticeship are much more flexible
>> than US mechanics who are much more vertically specialised.
>> Point 8, That US specialisation can be extreme. Ie. a mechanic
>> specialised on Cummins may not be able to work on GM diesels because
>> their training only involved a 6 or 12 week course only on the one
>> engine type and was not readily transferable to other types. My
>> diesel training, OTOH, covered all types of diesel engines, all types
>> of fuel systems, all forms of supercharging and all types of
>> governors. Even included *overhaul*, *testing* and calibration of all
>> types of pumps and injector systems. Very comprehensive.
>> Point 9, Because of point 8, most diesel mechanics on rigs are
>> Aussies and Poms.
>
> Very interesting but nothing to do with "The training regime for
> tradespeople in the US army would be second to none".

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 Indeed *not*. Just another xenokryp attempt to slime his way out of
just another faux pas by the use of blather, big noting, generalization
and out and out *Bullshit*..... Pffffttttttt.

--
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difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of
mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." — Gene
Spafford, 1992

On 10/9/2021 6:52 PM, Daryl wrote:
> On 9/10/21 5:42 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 9/10/2021 4:00 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 9/10/21 4:05 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 9/10/2021 3:01 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 9/10/21 3:18 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/10/2021 2:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/10/2021 8:19 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The training regime for tradespeople in the US army would be
>>>>>>>> second to none
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You must be joking,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ROTFL :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll bet you he's deadly serious, which only serves to highlight
>>>>>> how clueless he actually is :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've known a whole lot of people who were with the Yanks in
>>>>>>> Vietnam, their opinions of the skills of US maintainers are
>>>>>>> about as low as it gets. Basically they were trained on one
>>>>>>> thing, one engine, one gun, one radio and were totally lost
>>>>>>> outside of that. They threw stuff away rather than fix it, which
>>>>>>> was gold to the Australians who were long on fixing skills but
>>>>>>> short on supplies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heard similar stories from people. Americans tend to dispose of
>>>>>> stuff rather than repair it because they have precious few people
>>>>>> who can actually repair anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>> That's because they don't have an apprenticeship system to speak
>>>>> of. They all like you - no clear cut understanding of the
>>>>> underlying theory of operation so cockups are frequent.
>>>>
>>>> Didn't you just say "The training regime for tradespeople in the US
>>>> army would be second to none"?
>>>
>>> Point 1, the army training scheme is not an apprenticeship.
>>> Point 2, most *mechanics* in the US just learn *on the job* with
>>> typically no formal training and no apprenticeship as we know it.
>>> Point 3, Some mechanics sign up for courses at private tech colleges.
>>> Point 4, not every mechanic in the US does their mechanical training
>>> in the army. In fact *most* don't.
>>> Point 5, some companies, ie. Chamberlain John Deere, have excellent
>>> training regimes, including in-depth resource material, albeit
>>> product oriented. Used them myself for developing learning resources.
>>> Point 6, army mechanic training resource materials are *very*
>>> comprehensive and cover basic principles such as hydraulics and
>>> electrical very well.
>>> Point 7, If you are OS working in oil or mining, you will find
>>> mechanics from Australia and the UK in abundance. This is because
>>> mechanics who have done a full apprenticeship are much more flexible
>>> than US mechanics who are much more vertically specialised.
>>> Point 8, That US specialisation can be extreme. Ie. a mechanic
>>> specialised on Cummins may not be able to work on GM diesels because
>>> their training only involved a 6 or 12 week course only on the one
>>> engine type and was not readily transferable to other types. My
>>> diesel training, OTOH, covered all types of diesel engines, all
>>> types of fuel systems, all forms of supercharging and all types of
>>> governors. Even included *overhaul*, *testing* and calibration of
>>> all types of pumps and injector systems. Very comprehensive.
>>> Point 9, Because of point 8, most diesel mechanics on rigs are
>>> Aussies and Poms.
>>
>> Very interesting but nothing to do with "The training regime for
>> tradespeople in the US army would be second to none".
>>
>
> His point 5 is a WTF, Chamberlain John Deere only existed in Australia
> and production of Chamberlain tractors ceased in 1986 so I don't know
> what their "excellent training regimes" has to do with the training of
> US or any other mechanics.
> From 1970 to 1977 I worked for a Chamberlain tractor dealer and not
> once did I see or hear of any Chamberlain tractor specific training,
> apart from trade school 99% of my training was on the job, I remember
> doing a 2 day in house course on Hitachi excavators but that's it, the
> rest I learned from the experienced mechanics I worked with.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  OUCH!!. <FBG>

--
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea. Massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of
mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." — Gene
Spafford, 1992

On 10/10/2021 12:11 pm, jonz wrote:
> On 10/9/2021 5:42 PM, keithr0 wrote:

>> Very interesting but nothing to do with "The training regime for
>> tradespeople in the US army would be second to none".
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>  Indeed *not*. Just another xenokryp attempt to slime his way out of
> just another faux pas by the use of blather, big noting, generalization
> and out and out *Bullshit*..... Pffffttttttt.

Exactly. Yet *another* example of these relevance deprived fuckwits
doing their best to poison *another* thread.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 10/9/2021 8:22 PM, keithr0 wrote:
> On 9/10/2021 6:30 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 9/10/21 2:59 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 9/10/2021 8:19 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The training regime for tradespeople in the US army would be second
>>>> to none
>>>
>>> You must be joking, I've known a whole lot of people who were with
>>> the Yanks in Vietnam, their opinions of the skills of US maintainers
>>> are about as low as it gets. Basically they were trained on one
>>> thing, one engine, one gun, one radio and were totally lost outside
>>> of that. They threw stuff away rather than fix it, which was gold to
>>> the Australians who were long on fixing skills but short on supplies.
>>
>> Two thirds of the US soldiers in Vietnam were volunteers. IOW, the
>> majority were short termers, not regular career soldiers. As such,
>> these men were not given in depth training as mechanics and the like.
>> Most would be lucky to get 6 months of Corps Training. Not a lot
>> different to the Aussie conscripts actually. That's why those
>> soldiers were trained on a very limited range of equipment, typically
>> just the equipment they were assigned to or carried. A regular
>> soldier in the US gets trained on a much broader spectrum of
>> equipment and gets much more experience over a longer period of time.
>> Again, no different to regulars in the Australian army.
>>
> That is not what I've been told by people who have first hand experience.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 All this jibber- jabber from a liar who made an absolute fool of
'imself regarding a statement he made waaay back in this thread. At that
stage he could have said *whoops, that was a complete contradiction,
sorry* and moved on!. But no, the cunt keeps digging!.. He has now been
a-googlin'.. He`s all over the place like a mad womans shit.

      He`s sounding sillier than alvira right now. (and *that* takes
some doing!.)

            **Very** relevant sig. below.      ↓ ↓ ↓ ↓ ↓ ↓ ↓ ↓ ↓ ↓

--
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difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of
mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." — Gene
Spafford, 1992

On 10/10/21 12:20 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 10/10/2021 12:11 pm, jonz wrote:
>> On 10/9/2021 5:42 PM, keithr0 wrote:
>
>>> Very interesting but nothing to do with "The training regime for
>>> tradespeople in the US army would be second to none".
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>   Indeed *not*. Just another xenokryp attempt to slime his way out of
>> just another faux pas by the use of blather, big noting,
>> generalization and out and out *Bullshit*..... Pffffttttttt.
>
> Exactly. Yet *another* example of these relevance deprived fuckwits
> doing their best to poison *another* thread.
>
Darren, you've been *poisoning* this newsgroup with your lies, bullshit
and self aggrandising claims for 20 years and more so you should really
shut your yap in this regard. You are just making yourself look a total
hypocrite. You don't need to work on it, being a hypocrite comes
naturally to you.

--

Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 10/9/2021 3:10 PM, keithr0 wrote:
> On 9/10/2021 10:57 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 9/10/2021 11:19 am, jonz wrote:
>>> On 10/8/2021 9:09 PM, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 8/10/2021 8:37 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 8/10/2021 11:29 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/10/2021 1:09 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 6 October 2021 at 19:39:34 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually no, the new Brasso is pretty much liquid and doesn't
>>>>>>>> work at all.
>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>   Brasso has *always* been a liquid, that requires a good
>>>>>>> shaking before use. However, a liquid it was/is!.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And it works just fine. Windscreen boy has no fucking idea.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It *doesn't* work anymore. The reviews back this up as it turns out.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/brasso-metal-polish" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/brasso-metal-polish
>>>>>
>>>>> Way to go "All Imperial Jeep" boy, you're wrong again!
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>  It`s *on line* so it *must* be a *fact*....UH-HUH!.
>>
>>
>> your ignorance is showing. https://www.productreview.com.au/ is the
>> most authoritative site for getting info and opinions about products
>> from consumers. ie. ppl who actually use them. I have done reviews
>> myself. that's the first point. secondly, if most ppl ie. the vast
>> majority, are saying a product is crap, what are the chances that it
>> is? here's a clue.. 99.99% certainty it is!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  *Most ppl* eh?.

          "*the vast majority*, are saying a product is crap, what are
the chances that it is? here's a clue.. 99.99% certainty it is!"

         *SO* is that 99.99% of their readership?, including casual
page flippers in the waiting room?.

                 Did they conduct a survey?.

                       *ALL* of there readers or:

                        The ppl waiting at joe`s barber shop on a
monday morning?.( All six (6) of them? )

                BTW. As the man with the wooden leg said, "its a matter
of opinion"...

>
> And how many reviews are actually from ordinary people and not shills
> for the manufacturers?

~~~~~~~~~~~~

 That too.

--
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea. Massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of
mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." — Gene
Spafford, 1992

On 10/9/2021 6:35 PM, Clocky wrote:
> On 9/10/2021 12:24 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 9/10/2021 2:21 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 9/10/2021 3:10 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 9/10/2021 10:57 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 9/10/2021 11:19 am, jonz wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/8/2021 9:09 PM, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/10/2021 8:37 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/10/2021 11:29 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8/10/2021 1:09 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 6 October 2021 at 19:39:34 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Actually no, the new Brasso is pretty much liquid and
>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't work at all.
>>>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>>>   Brasso has *always* been a liquid, that requires a good
>>>>>>>>>> shaking before use. However, a liquid it was/is!.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And it works just fine. Windscreen boy has no fucking idea.....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It *doesn't* work anymore. The reviews back this up as it turns
>>>>>>>> out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/brasso-metal-polish" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/brasso-metal-polish
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Way to go "All Imperial Jeep" boy, you're wrong again!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  It`s *on line* so it *must* be a *fact*....UH-HUH!.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> your ignorance is showing. https://www.productreview.com.au/ is
>>>>> the most authoritative site for getting info and opinions about
>>>>> products from consumers. ie. ppl who actually use them. I have
>>>>> done reviews myself. that's the first point. secondly, if most ppl
>>>>> ie. the vast majority, are saying a product is crap, what are the
>>>>> chances that it is? here's a clue.. 99.99% certainty it is!
>>>>
>>>> And how many reviews are actually from ordinary people and not
>>>> shills for the manufacturers?
>>>
>>>
>>> 99%. manufacturers reps won't be posting negative reviews will they
>>>
>>>
>> Depends on which manufacturer they are shilling for.
>
> In the case of Brasso the Brasso shills are easy to spot, they are the
> very few  that give the product 5 stars when everyone else has the
> same complaints.
>
> Plus the reviews for Brasso turned sour after they changed the
> formula... do you think that is just a coincidence?
> Buy hey it and try it for yourself... you'll soon find that it no
> longer works.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 SO, by that logic one can expect its complete demise in what? a few
months, a year?.

--
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea. Massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of
mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." — Gene
Spafford, 1992

On 10/10/2021 1:26 pm, jonz wrote:
> On 10/9/2021 3:10 PM, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 9/10/2021 10:57 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 9/10/2021 11:19 am, jonz wrote:
>>>> On 10/8/2021 9:09 PM, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 8/10/2021 8:37 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/10/2021 11:29 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/10/2021 1:09 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 6 October 2021 at 19:39:34 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Actually no, the new Brasso is pretty much liquid and doesn't
>>>>>>>>> work at all.
>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>   Brasso has *always* been a liquid, that requires a good
>>>>>>>> shaking before use. However, a liquid it was/is!.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And it works just fine. Windscreen boy has no fucking idea.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It *doesn't* work anymore. The reviews back this up as it turns out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/brasso-metal-polish" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/brasso-metal-polish
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Way to go "All Imperial Jeep" boy, you're wrong again!
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>  It`s *on line* so it *must* be a *fact*....UH-HUH!.
>>>
>>>
>>> your ignorance is showing. https://www.productreview.com.au/ is the
>>> most authoritative site for getting info and opinions about products
>>> from consumers. ie. ppl who actually use them. I have done reviews
>>> myself. that's the first point. secondly, if most ppl ie. the vast
>>> majority, are saying a product is crap, what are the chances that it
>>> is? here's a clue.. 99.99% certainty it is!
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>   *Most ppl* eh?.
>
>           "*the vast majority*, are saying a product is crap, what are
> the chances that it is? here's a clue.. 99.99% certainty it is!"
>
>          *SO* is that 99.99% of their readership?, including casual
> page flippers in the waiting room?.
>
>                  Did they conduct a survey?.
>
>                        *ALL* of there readers or:
>
>                         The ppl waiting at joe`s barber shop on a
> monday morning?.( All six (6) of them? )
>
>                 BTW. As the man with the wooden leg said, "its a
> matter of opinion"...
>
>

go look at the site! see for yourself how it works.

>>
>> And how many reviews are actually from ordinary people and not shills
>> for the manufacturers?
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>  That too.
>
>

--
"A mans got to know his limitations"
- clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry

On 10/10/2021 1:29 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 10/10/2021 1:26 pm, jonz wrote:
>> On 10/9/2021 3:10 PM, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 9/10/2021 10:57 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 9/10/2021 11:19 am, jonz wrote:
>>>>> On 10/8/2021 9:09 PM, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/10/2021 8:37 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/10/2021 11:29 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/10/2021 1:09 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 6 October 2021 at 19:39:34 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Actually no, the new Brasso is pretty much liquid and doesn't
>>>>>>>>>> work at all.
>>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>>   Brasso has *always* been a liquid, that requires a good
>>>>>>>>> shaking before use. However, a liquid it was/is!.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And it works just fine. Windscreen boy has no fucking idea.....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It *doesn't* work anymore. The reviews back this up as it turns out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/brasso-metal-polish" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/brasso-metal-polish
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Way to go "All Imperial Jeep" boy, you're wrong again!
>>>>>
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>>  It`s *on line* so it *must* be a *fact*....UH-HUH!.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> your ignorance is showing. https://www.productreview.com.au/ is the
>>>> most authoritative site for getting info and opinions about products
>>>> from consumers. ie. ppl who actually use them. I have done reviews
>>>> myself. that's the first point. secondly, if most ppl ie. the vast
>>>> majority, are saying a product is crap, what are the chances that it
>>>> is? here's a clue.. 99.99% certainty it is!
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>   *Most ppl* eh?.
>>
>>           "*the vast majority*, are saying a product is crap, what are
>> the chances that it is? here's a clue.. 99.99% certainty it is!"
>>
>>          *SO* is that 99.99% of their readership?, including casual
>> page flippers in the waiting room?.
>>
>>                  Did they conduct a survey?.
>>
>>                        *ALL* of there readers or:
>>
>>                         The ppl waiting at joe`s barber shop on a
>> monday morning?.( All six (6) of them? )
>>
>>                 BTW. As the man with the wooden leg said, "its a
>> matter of opinion"...
>>
>>
>
> go look at the site! see for yourself how it works.
>
>

He's a NoddyLiar enabler so you're wasting your time.

On 10/10/2021 5:23 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 10/10/2021 1:29 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 10/10/2021 1:26 pm, jonz wrote:
>>> On 10/9/2021 3:10 PM, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 9/10/2021 10:57 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 9/10/2021 11:19 am, jonz wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/8/2021 9:09 PM, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/10/2021 8:37 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/10/2021 11:29 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8/10/2021 1:09 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 6 October 2021 at 19:39:34 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Actually no, the new Brasso is pretty much liquid and
>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't work at all.
>>>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>>>   Brasso has *always* been a liquid, that requires a good
>>>>>>>>>> shaking before use. However, a liquid it was/is!.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And it works just fine. Windscreen boy has no fucking idea.....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It *doesn't* work anymore. The reviews back this up as it turns
>>>>>>>> out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/brasso-metal-polish" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/brasso-metal-polish
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Way to go "All Imperial Jeep" boy, you're wrong again!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  It`s *on line* so it *must* be a *fact*....UH-HUH!.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> your ignorance is showing. https://www.productreview.com.au/ is
>>>>> the most authoritative site for getting info and opinions about
>>>>> products from consumers. ie. ppl who actually use them. I have
>>>>> done reviews myself. that's the first point. secondly, if most ppl
>>>>> ie. the vast majority, are saying a product is crap, what are the
>>>>> chances that it is? here's a clue.. 99.99% certainty it is!
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>   *Most ppl* eh?.
>>>
>>>           "*the vast majority*, are saying a product is crap, what
>>> are the chances that it is? here's a clue.. 99.99% certainty it is!"
>>>
>>>          *SO* is that 99.99% of their readership?, including casual
>>> page flippers in the waiting room?.
>>>
>>>                  Did they conduct a survey?.
>>>
>>>                        *ALL* of there readers or:
>>>
>>>                         The ppl waiting at joe`s barber shop on a
>>> monday morning?.( All six (6) of them? )
>>>
>>>                 BTW. As the man with the wooden leg said, "its a
>>> matter of opinion"...
>>>
>>>
>>
>> go look at the site! see for yourself how it works.
>>
>>
>
>
> He's a NoddyLiar enabler so you're wasting your time.

yep. he just wants to pick fights and cozy up to his master and get his
little pats on the head  :)

--
"A mans got to know his limitations"
- clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry

On 10/10/2021 3:41 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 10/10/2021 5:23 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 10/10/2021 1:29 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 10/10/2021 1:26 pm, jonz wrote:
>>>> On 10/9/2021 3:10 PM, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 9/10/2021 10:57 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/10/2021 11:19 am, jonz wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/8/2021 9:09 PM, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/10/2021 8:37 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8/10/2021 11:29 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/10/2021 1:09 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 6 October 2021 at 19:39:34 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually no, the new Brasso is pretty much liquid and
>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't work at all.
>>>>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>>>>   Brasso has *always* been a liquid, that requires a good
>>>>>>>>>>> shaking before use. However, a liquid it was/is!.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And it works just fine. Windscreen boy has no fucking idea.....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It *doesn't* work anymore. The reviews back this up as it turns
>>>>>>>>> out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/brasso-metal-polish" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/brasso-metal-polish
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Way to go "All Imperial Jeep" boy, you're wrong again!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  It`s *on line* so it *must* be a *fact*....UH-HUH!.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> your ignorance is showing. https://www.productreview.com.au/ is
>>>>>> the most authoritative site for getting info and opinions about
>>>>>> products from consumers. ie. ppl who actually use them. I have
>>>>>> done reviews myself. that's the first point. secondly, if most ppl
>>>>>> ie. the vast majority, are saying a product is crap, what are the
>>>>>> chances that it is? here's a clue.. 99.99% certainty it is!
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>   *Most ppl* eh?.
>>>>
>>>>           "*the vast majority*, are saying a product is crap, what
>>>> are the chances that it is? here's a clue.. 99.99% certainty it is!"
>>>>
>>>>          *SO* is that 99.99% of their readership?, including casual
>>>> page flippers in the waiting room?.
>>>>
>>>>                  Did they conduct a survey?.
>>>>
>>>>                        *ALL* of there readers or:
>>>>
>>>>                         The ppl waiting at joe`s barber shop on a
>>>> monday morning?.( All six (6) of them? )
>>>>
>>>>                 BTW. As the man with the wooden leg said, "its a
>>>> matter of opinion"...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> go look at the site! see for yourself how it works.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> He's a NoddyLiar enabler so you're wasting your time.
>
>
> yep. he just wants to pick fights and cozy up to his master and get his
> little pats on the head  :)
>

Well he knows as along as he doesn't question anything his master says
he won't get abused by him.

His sense of self-worth must at rock bottom.

On 9/10/2021 2:04 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 11:12:06 +1100, Trevor Wilson
> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>
>> We've all seen them. Some of us own cars with them. I do. Or did. I
>> refer, of course, to Sun damaged polycarb headlights. I spent an hour or
>> so over the long weekend using this product:
>>
>> https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/dc/v000087445/
>>
>> Outstanding! SO much more light on the road from the Stagea HID
>> headlights. Nice sharp cut-off. Just fabulous.
>>
>> I did quite a bit of research, before I chose the 3M product. The only
>> other product I considered was the Sylvania one. It was a lot more
>> expensive, more difficult to obtain and required a lot more elbow grease
>> (no drill required).
>>
>> Anyway, for anyone wanting to tart up their headlights, the 3M product
>> is brilliant. Instructions are clear and easy to understand. All you
>> need to add is a drill/driver and a spritzer bottle of water.
>
> What a great project for a 3D printer. New lenses for old.
>

**Maybe for a pro, but not for a home printer. Polycarb printing is very
difficult to get right and requires a high end printer.