On 11/10/2021 9:09 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 11/10/21 8:29 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>
>>>  > Both Brasso and
>>>> toothpaste are abrasive.
>>
>> That's the entire *point*, you fucking brain dead cuntoxen. They
>> *have* to be abrasive or they won't *work*.
>>
>> *Jesus* you are clueless .....
>>
>
> The clueless one, dear boy, is you! Abrasion is only part of the story
> with Brasso. Brasso also has acidic shit in there to remove the brass
> oxidation. No need for such a substance on polycarbonates.
>
> https://mbyc.net/MSDS/Brasso-Polish-MSDS.pdf
>
> According to the MSDS, Brasso contains Ammonium Hydroxide. That, in
> case you weren't aware, is in the class of *caustics*.
>
> https://www.calpaclab.com/polycarbonate-chemical-compatibility-chart/
>
> Ammonium Hydroxide    D-Severe Effect
>
> And further, what does D-Severe Effect actually mean?  Down at the
> bottom of the above link is the legend
>
> Ratings: Chemical Effect
> A = Excellent.
> B = Good, Minor Effect, slight corrosion or discoloration
> C = Fair, Moderate Effect, not recommended for continuous use.
> Softening, loss of strength, or swelling may occur.
> D = Severe Effect, not recommended for ANY use.
> N/A = Information not available.
>
> There you have it, not recommended for any use with Polycarbonate.
>
> Brasso also has Oleic Acid but, according to the above chart;
>
> Oleic Acid    N/A
>
> No worries on that score.
>
> So, one nasty substance, one benign. Brasso is out.
>
> What about toothpaste? Well, it is an abrasive so it will, on first
> use, remove the outer layer of polycarbonate which is the UV resistant
> part. Once you have removed that, the underlying polycarbonate has no
> UV protection and will yellow much more quickly. What is needed, after
> toothpaste is used on a headlight cover, is a dose of UV sealant. Not
> going to get that from the toothpaste but the Turtlewax headlight
> cleaner and sealant *does have it* built right in to the product.
>
>
>> Absolutely. That this moron continues to mouth off about stuff that
>> he *clearly* has not the slightest clue about is a testament to his
>> personality disorder and his overriding need to be relevant.
>
> The relevance deprived moron here Darren, is you.
>>
>>> And you purport to be a "teacher". LOL...
>>
>> He couldn't teach anyone how to catch a fucking cold.
>
> Well, teachers couldn't teach you anything but they aren't to blame
> for that. After all, there's no known cure for what ails you, before
> or after your ABI.
>
> There is a reason why product manufacturers produce MSDS charts for
> their products. Apart from alerting users to toxicity, they also
> inform suitability for task. I wouldn't use Brasso on any headlight
> cover and toothpaste is only going to do half the job.
>

maybe noddy should try cleaning his teeth with brasso?  :)

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On 10/11/2021 5:25 PM, keithr0 wrote:
> On 11/10/2021 11:53 am, Clocky wrote:
>> On 11/10/2021 9:27 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 11/10/2021 10:18 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 11/10/2021 8:13 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 9/10/2021 11:04 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 11:12:06 +1100, Trevor Wilson
>>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We've all seen them. Some of us own cars with them. I do. Or did. I
>>>>>>> refer, of course, to Sun damaged polycarb headlights. I spent an
>>>>>>> hour or
>>>>>>> so over the long weekend using this product:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/dc/v000087445/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Outstanding! SO much more light on the road from the Stagea HID
>>>>>>> headlights. Nice sharp cut-off. Just fabulous.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did quite a bit of research, before I chose the 3M product.
>>>>>>> The only
>>>>>>> other product I considered was the Sylvania one. It was a lot more
>>>>>>> expensive, more difficult to obtain and required a lot more
>>>>>>> elbow grease
>>>>>>> (no drill required).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, for anyone wanting to tart up their headlights, the 3M
>>>>>>> product
>>>>>>> is brilliant. Instructions are clear and easy to understand. All
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> need to add is a drill/driver and a spritzer bottle of water.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What a great project for a 3D printer.  New lenses for old.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cost of equipment and printed polycarbonate not being clear are
>>>>> two reasons it's not really viable.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I should add for the average home hobby printer, it is possible but
>>>> it's expensive.
>>>
>>> The average hone printer isn't going to print anything that large
>>> and the finish wouldn't be anywhere near good enough.
>>
>> Thanks Keef O' Paradox for confirming what I already said, that's
>> it's not viable for a home hobbyist but possible using expensive
>> equipment.
>>
>
> No, you said "for the average home hobby printer, it is possible but
> it's expensive.", I said that it wasn't even possible on a home
> printer. If you can't see the difference there you must be more stupid
> than I gave you credit for.

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On 11/10/21 6:58 pm, lindsay wrote:
> On 11/10/2021 12:24 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 10/10/21 12:23 am, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 10/10/2021 12:06 am, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 9/10/21 6:40 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>>>> On 9/10/2021 12:27 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Whether Brasso has changed it's formula and/or is no longer an
>>>>>> effective metal polish has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic
>>>>>> of polishing polycarbonate headlights. Brasso may or may not be
>>>>>> effective at polishing metal these days and I couldn't tell you as
>>>>>> I don't use it for that. However what I *can* tell you is that the
>>>>>> current liquid variety is *very* effective as a plastic polish,
>>>>>> and unlike the FLC loudmouths doing all the irrelevant screaming I
>>>>>> can tell you that from experience :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They really don't need any help in making themselves look like
>>>>>> utter spastics, do they? :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Lots of products, inc Brasso will do the job. I'd imagine so would
>>>>> Silvo. And several hand cleaners too. Depends on how hard you want
>>>>> to rub, and how long your prepared to work at it. Mate across the
>>>>> road sells second hand parts, and is forever coming over and "can i
>>>>> have a bit of spit and polish" The stuff I use to trick up
>>>>> fibreglass flowcoat is the same/similar to this:
>>>>> https://sydneytools.com.au/product/3m-as010623457-865ml-fast-cut-plus-extreme?gclid=Cj0KCQjw-4SLBhCVARIsACrhWLVFKC7Tao-1sqmxQlw2cGTusN6-KAiRTdY2OGcbsVI7l01PgWUnu8gaAj3yEALw_wcB
>>>>> I believe the guy who detailed my navara used similar, and the
>>>>> headlights looked new. If your selling a car and need your
>>>>> headlights cleaned up, then it's fine. So is anything mildly
>>>>> abrasive, inc Brasso (with the tin lid!). I think Jonz mentioned
>>>>> Jif. Maybe a bit harsh, (it'll be quick!) but i dont see an issue
>>>>> with that. If it cleans 'em , then jobs done. Maybe do it again in
>>>>> 2-3 years time? So what?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Don't forget toothpaste, that works too:-)
>>>
>>> It does. Works very well in fact. But it makes a mess when machine
>>> polishing and needs to be thinned with water.
>>>
>> Why use something not designed for the purpose Darren?
>
> Why not use something that works, and is *close at hand*, shit-fer-brains?

Exactly and its also cheap.
>
> > Both Brasso and
>> toothpaste are abrasive.
>
> So is the 3M gear mentioned. If it's NOT abrasive, it wouldnt work,
> simpleton. rubbing something with water will not improve the outcome,
> dickhead. You will need some abrasive..
>
If it wasn't abrasive it would do nothing.
A long time ago when I first bought my boat a mate gave me his old depth
sounder/fish finder/GPS, it was an expensive Lowrance model but he had
replaced it because the screen was faded and sun damaged it was unusable.
I Googled it and someone suggested polishing with toothpaste, it worked
very well, screen was clear so I fitted it to the boat and used it for a
couple of years.

--
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On 11/10/2021 1:43 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:33:06 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>
>> On 11/10/2021 1:27 pm, jonz wrote:
>>> On 10/11/2021 12:53 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>>> Thanks Keef O' Paradox for confirming what I already said, that's it's
>>>> not viable for a home hobbyist but possible using expensive equipment.
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>   Nope, *you said* "I should add for the average home hobby printer, it
>>> is possible but it's expensive."
>>>
>>>      Then there`s this:
>>>
>>>        "Thanks Keef O' Paradox for confirming what I already said,
>>> that's it's not viable for a home hobbyist but possible using expensive
>>> equipment"..
>>>
>>>    Two entirely *different* scenarios. you`re getting better at
>>> goalpost shifting than xenokryp..
>>>
>>>        Keef O' paradox eh??. Hahaha.  Won`t fly shitfer. <FBG>
>>
>> He's good at that. It's like when Clasener first threw around that "you
>> deleted them" nonsense after he'd bullshitted himself into a corner, and
>> after a while when people questioned it Jerky jumped on the bandwagon
>> (as he usually does) and declared "I'd like to see if there were any
>> deleted posts".
>>
>> Of course there never was, which was something a "tech guru" like Jerky
>> should have been able to work out in five minutes, but after it became
>> clear enough even for *him* to realise that Clasener was talking out of
>> his arse he changed his tune in saying "I said I didn't think there were
>> any deleted posts"
>>
>
> This pair make the anti-vax/anti-5g crowd look rational...
>
>
>
> alvey
>

You have to wonder why all NoddyLiar's mates have remedial level
comprehension skills... it's pretty clear what was meant.

I have no idea what the fraud is banging on about. I've always
maintained that it was up to the claimant to show the placeholders of
these deleted posts. Since he hasn't clearly there were no deleted
posts. I reposted what I said every time he came out with his nonsense
version of history however he seems determined to believe in his
alternate reality.

Perhaps we should ask how that investigation into the horse porn is
going instead, you know the one where he was so outraged that he was
going take legal action. All those false accusations until it got close
to the actual source, then followed by silence...

On 11/10/2021 6:16 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 11/10/2021 5:51 pm, alvey wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 16:25:38 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/10/2021 11:53 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 11/10/2021 9:27 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 11/10/2021 10:18 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/10/2021 8:13 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/10/2021 11:04 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 11:12:06 +1100, Trevor Wilson
>>>>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We've all seen them. Some of us own cars with them. I do. Or
>>>>>>>>> did. I
>>>>>>>>> refer, of course, to Sun damaged polycarb headlights. I spent an
>>>>>>>>> hour or
>>>>>>>>> so over the long weekend using this product:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/dc/v000087445/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Outstanding! SO much more light on the road from the Stagea HID
>>>>>>>>> headlights. Nice sharp cut-off. Just fabulous.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I did quite a bit of research, before I chose the 3M product. The
>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>> other product I considered was the Sylvania one. It was a lot more
>>>>>>>>> expensive, more difficult to obtain and required a lot more elbow
>>>>>>>>> grease
>>>>>>>>> (no drill required).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyway, for anyone wanting to tart up their headlights, the 3M
>>>>>>>>> product
>>>>>>>>> is brilliant. Instructions are clear and easy to understand.
>>>>>>>>> All you
>>>>>>>>> need to add is a drill/driver and a spritzer bottle of water.
>>>>>>>> What a great project for a 3D printer.  New lenses for old.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cost of equipment and printed polycarbonate not being clear are two
>>>>>>> reasons it's not really viable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I should add for the average home hobby printer, it is possible but
>>>>>> it's expensive.
>>>>> The average hone printer isn't going to print anything that large and
>>>>> the finish wouldn't be anywhere near good enough.
>>>> Thanks Keef O' Paradox for confirming what I already said, that's it's
>>>> not viable for a home hobbyist but possible using expensive equipment.
>>>>
>>> No, you said "for the average home hobby printer, it is possible but
>>> it's expensive.", I said that it wasn't even possible on a home printer.
>> “Whatever - you're wrong but I can't be bothered to keep up this
>> pointless argument.”
>>
>>> If you can't see the difference there you must be more stupid than I
>>> gave you credit for.
>> And 'Whatever 2'... It's almost interesting that some of these Fraudster
>> enablers are so keen to try and score microscopically petty points, yet
>> will happily ignore the big picture. Incredible that they bleat about
>> "relevance". lol.
>>
>
> yes
>

It's so irrelevant that it's not worth arguing yet that great big
elephant in the room remains invisible to them.

Go figure...

On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 18:58:27 +1100, lindsay wrote:

> On 11/10/2021 12:24 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 10/10/21 12:23 am, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 10/10/2021 12:06 am, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 9/10/21 6:40 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>>>> On 9/10/2021 12:27 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Whether Brasso has changed it's formula and/or is no longer an
>>>>>> effective metal polish has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic
>>>>>> of polishing polycarbonate headlights. Brasso may or may not be
>>>>>> effective at polishing metal these days and I couldn't tell you as
>>>>>> I don't use it for that. However what I *can* tell you is that the
>>>>>> current liquid variety is *very* effective as a plastic polish, and
>>>>>> unlike the FLC loudmouths doing all the irrelevant screaming I can
>>>>>> tell you that from experience :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They really don't need any help in making themselves look like
>>>>>> utter spastics, do they? :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Lots of products, inc Brasso will do the job. I'd imagine so would
>>>>> Silvo. And several hand cleaners too. Depends on how hard you want
>>>>> to rub, and how long your prepared to work at it. Mate across the
>>>>> road sells second hand parts, and is forever coming over and "can i
>>>>> have a bit of spit and polish" The stuff I use to trick up
>>>>> fibreglass flowcoat is the same/similar to this:
>>>>> https://sydneytools.com.au/product/3m-as010623457-865ml-fast-cut-plus-extreme?gclid=Cj0KCQjw-4SLBhCVARIsACrhWLVFKC7Tao-1sqmxQlw2cGTusN6-KAiRTdY2OGcbsVI7l01PgWUnu8gaAj3yEALw_wcB
>>>>> I believe the guy who detailed my navara used similar, and the
>>>>> headlights looked new. If your selling a car and need your
>>>>> headlights cleaned up, then it's fine. So is anything mildly
>>>>> abrasive, inc Brasso (with the tin lid!). I think Jonz mentioned
>>>>> Jif. Maybe a bit harsh, (it'll be quick!) but i dont see an issue
>>>>> with that. If it cleans 'em , then jobs done. Maybe do it again in
>>>>> 2-3 years time? So what?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Don't forget toothpaste, that works too:-)
>>>
>>> It does. Works very well in fact. But it makes a mess when machine
>>> polishing and needs to be thinned with water.
>>>
>> Why use something not designed for the purpose Darren?
>
> Why not use something that works, and is *close at hand*, shit-fer-brains?
>
> > Both Brasso and
>> toothpaste are abrasive.
>
> So is the 3M gear mentioned. If it's NOT abrasive, it wouldnt work,
> simpleton. rubbing something with water will not improve the outcome,
> dickhead. You will need some abrasive..

Wow! Selective *and* misleading quoting!
That's low even by your standards. Congratulations.

alvey

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On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 20:42:58 +0800, Clocky wrote:

> On 11/10/2021 1:43 pm, alvey wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:33:06 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/10/2021 1:27 pm, jonz wrote:
>>>> On 10/11/2021 12:53 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Thanks Keef O' Paradox for confirming what I already said, that's it's
>>>>> not viable for a home hobbyist but possible using expensive equipment.
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>   Nope, *you said* "I should add for the average home hobby printer, it
>>>> is possible but it's expensive."
>>>>
>>>>      Then there`s this:
>>>>
>>>>        "Thanks Keef O' Paradox for confirming what I already said,
>>>> that's it's not viable for a home hobbyist but possible using expensive
>>>> equipment"..
>>>>
>>>>    Two entirely *different* scenarios. you`re getting better at
>>>> goalpost shifting than xenokryp..
>>>>
>>>>        Keef O' paradox eh??. Hahaha.  Won`t fly shitfer. <FBG>
>>>
>>> He's good at that. It's like when Clasener first threw around that "you
>>> deleted them" nonsense after he'd bullshitted himself into a corner, and
>>> after a while when people questioned it Jerky jumped on the bandwagon
>>> (as he usually does) and declared "I'd like to see if there were any
>>> deleted posts".
>>>
>>> Of course there never was, which was something a "tech guru" like Jerky
>>> should have been able to work out in five minutes, but after it became
>>> clear enough even for *him* to realise that Clasener was talking out of
>>> his arse he changed his tune in saying "I said I didn't think there were
>>> any deleted posts"
>>>
>>
>> This pair make the anti-vax/anti-5g crowd look rational...
>>
>> alvey
>>
>
> You have to wonder why all NoddyLiar's mates have remedial level
> comprehension skills...

To maintain the balance with their remedial level expression...

>
> I have no idea what the fraud is banging on about. I've always
> maintained that it was up to the claimant to show the placeholders of
> these deleted posts. Since he hasn't clearly there were no deleted
> posts. I reposted what I said every time he came out with his nonsense
> version of history however he seems determined to believe in his
> alternate reality.

He's very keen on recycling some lies, like his recurring squeak on the
Audi equivalent to the Kia Stinger being the far more expensive A7. A claim
that, like so many of Der Ders claims, was easily disproved yet he kept
making it. When he does this 'recycling' it used to makes me wonder if he
was actually just trolling, but the overwhelming weight of his insanity and
stupidity quickly crushed that thought.
>
> Perhaps we should ask how that investigation into the horse porn is
> going instead, you know the one where he was so outraged that he was
> going take legal action. All those false accusations until it got close
> to the actual source, then followed by silence...

I doubt *very* much that the Fraudster would take legal action against
anyone in here regardless of what was written.

alvey
Always getting a chuckle at the thought of the Fraudster on the stand.

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On 12/10/2021 4:14 am, alvey wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 20:42:58 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>
>> On 11/10/2021 1:43 pm, alvey wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:33:06 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/10/2021 1:27 pm, jonz wrote:
>>>>> On 10/11/2021 12:53 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Keef O' Paradox for confirming what I already said, that's it's
>>>>>> not viable for a home hobbyist but possible using expensive equipment.
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>>   Nope, *you said* "I should add for the average home hobby printer, it
>>>>> is possible but it's expensive."
>>>>>
>>>>>      Then there`s this:
>>>>>
>>>>>        "Thanks Keef O' Paradox for confirming what I already said,
>>>>> that's it's not viable for a home hobbyist but possible using expensive
>>>>> equipment"..
>>>>>
>>>>>    Two entirely *different* scenarios. you`re getting better at
>>>>> goalpost shifting than xenokryp..
>>>>>
>>>>>        Keef O' paradox eh??. Hahaha.  Won`t fly shitfer. <FBG>
>>>>
>>>> He's good at that. It's like when Clasener first threw around that "you
>>>> deleted them" nonsense after he'd bullshitted himself into a corner, and
>>>> after a while when people questioned it Jerky jumped on the bandwagon
>>>> (as he usually does) and declared "I'd like to see if there were any
>>>> deleted posts".
>>>>
>>>> Of course there never was, which was something a "tech guru" like Jerky
>>>> should have been able to work out in five minutes, but after it became
>>>> clear enough even for *him* to realise that Clasener was talking out of
>>>> his arse he changed his tune in saying "I said I didn't think there were
>>>> any deleted posts"
>>>>
>>>
>>> This pair make the anti-vax/anti-5g crowd look rational...
>>>
>>> alvey
>>>
>>
>> You have to wonder why all NoddyLiar's mates have remedial level
>> comprehension skills...
>
> To maintain the balance with their remedial level expression...
>
>>
>> I have no idea what the fraud is banging on about. I've always
>> maintained that it was up to the claimant to show the placeholders of
>> these deleted posts. Since he hasn't clearly there were no deleted
>> posts. I reposted what I said every time he came out with his nonsense
>> version of history however he seems determined to believe in his
>> alternate reality.
>
> He's very keen on recycling some lies, like his recurring squeak on the
> Audi equivalent to the Kia Stinger being the far more expensive A7. A claim
> that, like so many of Der Ders claims, was easily disproved yet he kept
> making it. When he does this 'recycling' it used to makes me wonder if he
> was actually just trolling, but the overwhelming weight of his insanity and
> stupidity quickly crushed that thought.
>>
>> Perhaps we should ask how that investigation into the horse porn is
>> going instead, you know the one where he was so outraged that he was
>> going take legal action. All those false accusations until it got close
>> to the actual source, then followed by silence...
>
> I doubt *very* much that the Fraudster would take legal action against
> anyone in here regardless of what was written.
>

Especially not when the posting location was revealed to be quite close
to one of his own and the main suspect the finger was pointed at had
receipts proving he could not have been in that area.

Besides. who's going to believe someone who ha publicly admitted to
lying under oath?

>
>
> alvey
> Always getting a chuckle at the thought of the Fraudster on the stand.
>

He's done a fine job of assassinating his own character in thousands of
posts.

On 10/11/2021 9:34 PM, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 11/10/2021 8:29 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 11/10/2021 6:58 pm, lindsay wrote:
>>> On 11/10/2021 12:24 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>>> Why use something not designed for the purpose Darren?
>>>
>>> Why not use something that works, and is *close at hand*,
>>> shit-fer-brains?
>>
>> Indeed. Whether it's designed for the purpose or not is completely
>> irrelevant. The point is that regardless of what it's intended
>> purpose is it works very well as a plastic polish. It's also a very
>> good polish on finely sanded acrylic lacquer.
>>
>> There are *many* products in this world which work very well in roles
>> other than which they are/were originally intended, and had you any
>> relevant experience you would *know* this.
>
>
> still better to use a product made for a specific purpose. you can
> kill someone with a screwdriver but a bayonet is more effective

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 Felix the oracle!. (Or is that orifice????) Heh........

>
>

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Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote:
> On 12/10/2021 4:14 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 20:42:58 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/10/2021 1:43 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:33:06 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/10/2021 1:27 pm, jonz wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/11/2021 12:53 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Keef O' Paradox for confirming what I already said, that's it's
>>>>>>> not viable for a home hobbyist but possible using expensive equipment.
>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Nope, *you said* "I should add for the average home hobby printer, it
>>>>>> is possible but it's expensive."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Then there`s this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        "Thanks Keef O' Paradox for confirming what I already said,
>>>>>> that's it's not viable for a home hobbyist but possible using expensive
>>>>>> equipment"..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Two entirely *different* scenarios. you`re getting better at
>>>>>> goalpost shifting than xenokryp..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        Keef O' paradox eh??. Hahaha.  Won`t fly shitfer. <FBG>
>>>>>
>>>>> He's good at that. It's like when Clasener first threw around that "you
>>>>> deleted them" nonsense after he'd bullshitted himself into a corner, and
>>>>> after a while when people questioned it Jerky jumped on the bandwagon
>>>>> (as he usually does) and declared "I'd like to see if there were any
>>>>> deleted posts".
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course there never was, which was something a "tech guru" like Jerky
>>>>> should have been able to work out in five minutes, but after it became
>>>>> clear enough even for *him* to realise that Clasener was talking out of
>>>>> his arse he changed his tune in saying "I said I didn't think there were
>>>>> any deleted posts"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This pair make the anti-vax/anti-5g crowd look rational...
>>>>
>>>> alvey
>>>>
>>>
>>> You have to wonder why all NoddyLiar's mates have remedial level
>>> comprehension skills...
>>
>> To maintain the balance with their remedial level expression...
>>
>>>
>>> I have no idea what the fraud is banging on about. I've always
>>> maintained that it was up to the claimant to show the placeholders of
>>> these deleted posts. Since he hasn't clearly there were no deleted
>>> posts. I reposted what I said every time he came out with his nonsense
>>> version of history however he seems determined to believe in his
>>> alternate reality.
>>
>> He's very keen on recycling some lies, like his recurring squeak on the
>> Audi equivalent to the Kia Stinger being the far more expensive A7. A claim
>> that, like so many of Der Ders claims, was easily disproved yet he kept
>> making it. When he does this 'recycling' it used to makes me wonder if he
>> was actually just trolling, but the overwhelming weight of his insanity and
>> stupidity quickly crushed that thought.
>>>
>>> Perhaps we should ask how that investigation into the horse porn is
>>> going instead, you know the one where he was so outraged that he was
>>> going take legal action. All those false accusations until it got close
>>> to the actual source, then followed by silence...
>>
>> I doubt *very* much that the Fraudster would take legal action against
>> anyone in here regardless of what was written.
>>
>
> Especially not when the posting location was revealed to be quite close
> to one of his own and the main suspect the finger was pointed at had
> receipts proving he could not have been in that area.

The funny thing about that was when it was claimed those dated receipts
could have been picked up off the ground. It was still in Brisbane, not
Melbourne, long way apart. So funny

———
Xeno

On 10/11/2021 11:42 PM, Clocky wrote:
> On 11/10/2021 1:43 pm, alvey wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:33:06 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/10/2021 1:27 pm, jonz wrote:
>>>> On 10/11/2021 12:53 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Thanks Keef O' Paradox for confirming what I already said, that's
>>>>> it's
>>>>> not viable for a home hobbyist but possible using expensive
>>>>> equipment.
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>     Nope, *you said* "I should add for the average home hobby
>>>> printer, it
>>>> is possible but it's expensive."
>>>>
>>>>        Then there`s this:
>>>>
>>>>          "Thanks Keef O' Paradox for confirming what I already said,
>>>> that's it's not viable for a home hobbyist but possible using
>>>> expensive
>>>> equipment"..
>>>>
>>>>      Two entirely *different* scenarios. you`re getting better at
>>>> goalpost shifting than xenokryp..
>>>>
>>>>          Keef O' paradox eh??. Hahaha.  Won`t fly shitfer. <FBG>
>>>
>>> He's good at that. It's like when Clasener first threw around that "you
>>> deleted them" nonsense after he'd bullshitted himself into a corner,
>>> and
>>> after a while when people questioned it Jerky jumped on the bandwagon
>>> (as he usually does) and declared "I'd like to see if there were any
>>> deleted posts".
>>>
>>> Of course there never was, which was something a "tech guru" like Jerky
>>> should have been able to work out in five minutes, but after it became
>>> clear enough even for *him* to realise that Clasener was talking out of
>>> his arse he changed his tune in saying "I said I didn't think there
>>> were
>>> any deleted posts"
>>>
>>
>> This pair make the anti-vax/anti-5g crowd look rational...
>>
>>
>>
>> alvey
>>
>
> You have to wonder why all NoddyLiar's mates have remedial level
> comprehension skills... it's pretty clear what was meant.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 Yeah, it meant you *fucked up* imbo.

>
> I have no idea what the fraud is banging on about.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 You would have done well to have *stopped* at *I have no idea*

>   I've always maintained that it was up to the claimant to show the
> placeholders of these deleted posts. Since he hasn't clearly there
> were no deleted posts. I reposted what I said every time he came out
> with his nonsense version of history however he seems determined to
> believe in his alternate reality.
>
> Perhaps we should ask

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  WE?. Well, I guess you *are* hopeless on yer own eh??.

> how that investigation into the horse porn is going instead, you know
> the one where he was so outraged that he was going take legal action.
> All those false accusations until it got close to the actual source,
> then followed by silence...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 Do tell??.. So, who is the miscreant then.? C'mon spit it out...

--
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea. Massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of
mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." — Gene
Spafford, 1992

On 12/10/2021 11:02 am, jonz wrote:
> On 10/11/2021 9:34 PM, Yosemite Sam wrote:

>>> There are *many* products in this world which work very well in roles
>>> other than which they are/were originally intended, and had you any
>>> relevant experience you would *know* this.
>>
>>
>> still better to use a product made for a specific purpose. you can
>> kill someone with a screwdriver but a bayonet is more effective

What an *utterly* ridiculous argument. *Jesus* you are a stupid cunt :)

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>  Felix the oracle!. (Or is that orifice????) Heh........

I guess this moron has absolutely no idea that there are some products
that are made for a specific purpose that are thoroughly hopeless, while
others made for something else entirely are significantly better.

On this very subject I've seen products marketed as "CD Polish" that are
designed and sold as being suitable for the cleaning and scratch repair
of audio and data CD's that do absolutely *nothing* whereas Toothpaste
works remarkably well despite it being intended for a completely
different purpose.

Fair dinkum I struggle to understand how this moron could have got this
far in life, as his "world" seems to be the size of a basketball....

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 12/10/2021 8:03 am, Xeno wrote:
> Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote:
>> On 12/10/2021 4:14 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 20:42:58 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/10/2021 1:43 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:33:06 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/10/2021 1:27 pm, jonz wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/11/2021 12:53 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Keef O' Paradox for confirming what I already said, that's it's
>>>>>>>> not viable for a home hobbyist but possible using expensive equipment.
>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Nope, *you said* "I should add for the average home hobby printer, it
>>>>>>> is possible but it's expensive."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Then there`s this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        "Thanks Keef O' Paradox for confirming what I already said,
>>>>>>> that's it's not viable for a home hobbyist but possible using expensive
>>>>>>> equipment"..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Two entirely *different* scenarios. you`re getting better at
>>>>>>> goalpost shifting than xenokryp..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        Keef O' paradox eh??. Hahaha.  Won`t fly shitfer. <FBG>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He's good at that. It's like when Clasener first threw around that "you
>>>>>> deleted them" nonsense after he'd bullshitted himself into a corner, and
>>>>>> after a while when people questioned it Jerky jumped on the bandwagon
>>>>>> (as he usually does) and declared "I'd like to see if there were any
>>>>>> deleted posts".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course there never was, which was something a "tech guru" like Jerky
>>>>>> should have been able to work out in five minutes, but after it became
>>>>>> clear enough even for *him* to realise that Clasener was talking out of
>>>>>> his arse he changed his tune in saying "I said I didn't think there were
>>>>>> any deleted posts"
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This pair make the anti-vax/anti-5g crowd look rational...
>>>>>
>>>>> alvey
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You have to wonder why all NoddyLiar's mates have remedial level
>>>> comprehension skills...
>>>
>>> To maintain the balance with their remedial level expression...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea what the fraud is banging on about. I've always
>>>> maintained that it was up to the claimant to show the placeholders of
>>>> these deleted posts. Since he hasn't clearly there were no deleted
>>>> posts. I reposted what I said every time he came out with his nonsense
>>>> version of history however he seems determined to believe in his
>>>> alternate reality.
>>>
>>> He's very keen on recycling some lies, like his recurring squeak on the
>>> Audi equivalent to the Kia Stinger being the far more expensive A7. A claim
>>> that, like so many of Der Ders claims, was easily disproved yet he kept
>>> making it. When he does this 'recycling' it used to makes me wonder if he
>>> was actually just trolling, but the overwhelming weight of his insanity and
>>> stupidity quickly crushed that thought.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps we should ask how that investigation into the horse porn is
>>>> going instead, you know the one where he was so outraged that he was
>>>> going take legal action. All those false accusations until it got close
>>>> to the actual source, then followed by silence...
>>>
>>> I doubt *very* much that the Fraudster would take legal action against
>>> anyone in here regardless of what was written.
>>>
>>
>> Especially not when the posting location was revealed to be quite close
>> to one of his own and the main suspect the finger was pointed at had
>> receipts proving he could not have been in that area.
>
> The funny thing about that was when it was claimed those dated receipts
> could have been picked up off the ground. It was still in Brisbane, not
> Melbourne, long way apart. So funny
>
> ———
> Xeno
>
>
>

We know NoddyLiar is nuts but these enablers so willing to squeeze
around the white elephant blocking their path to point the finger at
someone/someone else.

Deserves it's own study really.

On 10/12/2021 11:21 AM, Noddy wrote:
> On 12/10/2021 11:02 am, jonz wrote:
>> On 10/11/2021 9:34 PM, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>>>> There are *many* products in this world which work very well in
>>>> roles other than which they are/were originally intended, and had
>>>> you any relevant experience you would *know* this.
>>>
>>>
>>> still better to use a product made for a specific purpose. you can
>>> kill someone with a screwdriver but a bayonet is more effective
>
> What an *utterly* ridiculous argument. *Jesus* you are a stupid cunt :)
>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>   Felix the oracle!. (Or is that orifice????) Heh........
>
> I guess this moron has absolutely no idea that there are some products
> that are made for a specific purpose that are thoroughly hopeless,
> while others made for something else entirely are significantly better.
>
> On this very subject I've seen products marketed as "CD Polish" that
> are designed and sold as being suitable for the cleaning and scratch
> repair of audio and data CD's that do absolutely *nothing* whereas
> Toothpaste works remarkably well despite it being intended for a
> completely different purpose.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 Yep, and as I said so does Jif.

>
> Fair dinkum I struggle to understand how this moron could have got
> this far in life, as his "world" seems to be the size of a basketball....

 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 That large??.

>
>
>
>

--
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea. Massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of
mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." — Gene
Spafford, 1992

On 12/10/2021 11:16 am, jonz wrote:
> On 10/11/2021 11:42 PM, Clocky wrote:

>> how that investigation into the horse porn is going instead, you know
>> the one where he was so outraged that he was going take legal action.
>> All those false accusations until it got close to the actual source,
>> then followed by silence...
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>  Do tell??.. So, who is the miscreant then.? C'mon spit it out...

I see we have *more* bullshit from this relevance deprived junior. <yawn>

There was never any "investigation" on my part, and this is just
*another* example of the bullshit these morons will resort to in their
constant battle to find something to fucking *whine* about. My name's
not Jerky Birko. I don't conduct "investigations" only to turn around
and become best friends with the shit talking retard I'm investigating :)

There is no secret here. I posted about what I did, and it's all on the
record for anyone to see for themselves. I made a complaint and handed
the post over to the relevant authority who replied in saying that while
the act of physically engaging in Bestiality was illegal, broadcasting
videos depicting it was not. If I remember correctly there was some
argument that posting adult material in a public forum without the
appropriate notice may have constituted a breach of the law, but they
didn't consider it serious enough to bother following it up and that was
that.

End of story.

It *is* interesting to note though that as disgusting as that material
was, all the complaint from the FLC was *not* aimed at whoever posted it
or the offensiveness of the material itself, but at me in objecting to it.

Pretty much shows you how fucked up these retards are right there :)

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
> On 12/10/2021 11:02 am, jonz wrote:
>> On 10/11/2021 9:34 PM, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>>>> There are *many* products in this world which work very well in roles
>>>> other than which they are/were originally intended, and had you any
>>>> relevant experience you would *know* this.
>>>
>>>
>>> still better to use a product made for a specific purpose. you can
>>> kill someone with a screwdriver but a bayonet is more effective
>
> What an *utterly* ridiculous argument. *Jesus* you are a stupid cunt :)
>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>  Felix the oracle!. (Or is that orifice????) Heh........
>
> I guess this moron has absolutely no idea that there are some products
> that are made for a specific purpose that are thoroughly hopeless, while
> others made for something else entirely are significantly better.
>
> On this very subject I've seen products marketed as "CD Polish" that are
> designed and sold as being suitable for the cleaning and scratch repair
> of audio and data CD's that do absolutely *nothing* whereas Toothpaste
> works remarkably well despite it being intended for a completely
> different purpose.

Au contraire, toothpaste is in fact a hard surface polish - it polishes
hard tooth enamel quite well, softer materials not so much. That’s why
toothpaste’s primary ingredient is also used in Brasso. I have tried
toothpaste on CDs and it leaves them a little cloudy, not ideal where the
medium needs to be transparent rather than translucent. Again a dedicated
CD polish will be designed to polish less hard polycarbonate materials.
>
> Fair dinkum I struggle to understand how this moron could have got this
> far in life, as his "world" seems to be the size of a basketball....
>
>
This from Mr Worldly stuck up on Merrimu Mesa a mere 50 k from where he was
born and whose whole world is like a grape, small, soft and squishy.

———
Xeno

>

On 12/10/2021 8:43 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 12/10/2021 11:16 am, jonz wrote:
>> On 10/11/2021 11:42 PM, Clocky wrote:
>
>>> how that investigation into the horse porn is going instead, you know
>>> the one where he was so outraged that he was going take legal action.
>>> All those false accusations until it got close to the actual source,
>>> then followed by silence...
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>   Do tell??.. So, who is the miscreant then.? C'mon spit it out...
>
> I see we have *more* bullshit from this relevance deprived junior. <yawn>
>
> There was never any "investigation" on my part

I never said *you* were doing the investigating... you had already made
up your mind.

You made plenty of laughable threats though, well until investigations
pointed to you being waaaaaaay of the mark. Then you fell silent. All of
sudden it just had to go away. Right, boy?

As far as the question posed by the one you dubbed the 'village idiot'
is concerned, he can go and look it up for himself, it's in the archives
for all to find.

On 12/10/2021 11:16 am, jonz wrote:
> On 10/11/2021 11:42 PM, Clocky wrote:

>
>>   I've always maintained that it was up to the claimant to show the
>> placeholders of these deleted posts. Since he hasn't clearly there
>> were no deleted posts. I reposted what I said every time he came out
>> with his nonsense version of history however he seems determined to
>> believe in his alternate reality.
>>
>> Perhaps we should ask
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>   WE?. Well, I guess you *are* hopeless on yer own eh??.

It's *not* what he's "always maintained" at all, and in fact this is yet
another of his pathetic attempts at rewriting history that he's become
so famous for.

This came up in a thread called "OT: Sage of those "delted threads".
query..." where after much speculation and comment, Jirky Birko said:

> I for one would be interested to see if these alleged deleted posts
> actually ever existed one way or the other.

That's a pretty basic statement that really cannot be taken any other
way than how it reads. He is implying here that's he's not sure either
way, and would like to know.

That's fine, but it doesn't correlate to *this* statement he made a few
weeks later once the dust had settled and it was clear that Clasener's
claims of "delted posts" were nothing but a fabrication:

> I said I didn't think there were any deleted posts and hence I showed no
> desire to bother looking for deleted posts so again you perpetuate this
> lie which you need to be true, but isn't.

Bzzzt. We can all see who's perpetuating the lie here :)

This is a *perfect* example of how this goalpost shifting cock tugger
hitches his wagon up to whatever side of an argument he thinks is going
to win. He clearly *never* stated in the beginning that he didn't think
there were any deleted posts and only made this comment *after* it was
clear that there wasn't, but moreover his initial claim of "being
interested to see if there was" lets the cat out of the bad about him
not being anywhere *near* the computer guru he likes to think he is.

You see, if he knew *half* as much as what he tries to make people
believe that he does, then he would have *known* that as I only ever
post via Eternal September and I *never* set the archive bit for my
posts to be deleted, the only place I could ever delete posts if I
wanted to would be from Eternal September's server directly, and if you
read their policy on post deleting it ain't all that easy.

Still, even had I managed to do that, it still wouldn't stop those
original posts from being picked up and echoed by other servers, and
copies of the originals would always be found on Google Groups.

In other words, he should have known that I would not have been
physically capable of deleting a post from Google Groups, and the fact
that he *clearly* wasn't goes some way to suggest that when it comes to
his computer knowledge he likes to talk himself up :)

It's also interesting to note that despite Clasener's claims of "deleted
posts" being *proven* bullshit, Jerky Birko in his role as bullshit
policeman has said absolutely jack shit about it.

Very telling.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
> On 12/10/2021 11:16 am, jonz wrote:
>> On 10/11/2021 11:42 PM, Clocky wrote:
>
>>
>>>   I've always maintained that it was up to the claimant to show the
>>> placeholders of these deleted posts. Since he hasn't clearly there
>>> were no deleted posts. I reposted what I said every time he came out
>>> with his nonsense version of history however he seems determined to
>>> believe in his alternate reality.
>>>
>>> Perhaps we should ask
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>   WE?. Well, I guess you *are* hopeless on yer own eh??.
>
> It's *not* what he's "always maintained" at all, and in fact this is yet
> another of his pathetic attempts at rewriting history that he's become
> so famous for.
>
> This came up in a thread called "OT: Sage of those "delted threads".
> query..." where after much speculation and comment, Jirky Birko said:
>
>> I for one would be interested to see if these alleged deleted posts
>> actually ever existed one way or the other.
>
> That's a pretty basic statement that really cannot be taken any other
> way than how it reads. He is implying here that's he's not sure either
> way, and would like to know.
>
> That's fine, but it doesn't correlate to *this* statement he made a few
> weeks later once the dust had settled and it was clear that Clasener's
> claims of "delted posts" were nothing but a fabrication:
>
>> I said I didn't think there were any deleted posts and hence I showed no
>> desire to bother looking for deleted posts so again you perpetuate this
>> lie which you need to be true, but isn't.
>
> Bzzzt. We can all see who's perpetuating the lie here :)
>
> This is a *perfect* example of how this goalpost shifting cock tugger
> hitches his wagon up to whatever side of an argument he thinks is going
> to win. He clearly *never* stated in the beginning that he didn't think
> there were any deleted posts and only made this comment *after* it was
> clear that there wasn't, but moreover his initial claim of "being
> interested to see if there was" lets the cat out of the bad about him
> not being anywhere *near* the computer guru he likes to think he is.
>
> You see, if he knew *half* as much as what he tries to make people
> believe that he does, then he would have *known* that as I only ever
> post via Eternal September and I *never* set the archive bit for my
> posts to be deleted, the only place I could ever delete posts if I
> wanted to would be from Eternal September's server directly, and if you
> read their policy on post deleting it ain't all that easy.
>
> Still, even had I managed to do that, it still wouldn't stop those
> original posts from being picked up and echoed by other servers, and
> copies of the originals would always be found on Google Groups.
>
> In other words, he should have known that I would not have been
> physically capable of deleting a post from Google Groups, and the fact
> that he *clearly* wasn't goes some way to suggest that when it comes to
> his computer knowledge he likes to talk himself up :)
>
> It's also interesting to note that despite Clasener's claims of "deleted
> posts" being *proven* bullshit, Jerky Birko in his role as bullshit
> policeman has said absolutely jack shit about it.
>
> Very telling.
>
It is very telling. It shows that *distraction* is all you have left. For
someone who purportedly doesn’t give a shit, you expend quite a great deal
of effort in distracting comment away from your fraudulent claims of trade
qualifications, multiple apprenticeships and equally fake claims of
business ownership. How simple it would be for you to shoot me down with a
simple entity like a *unique* (to you) pair of the trade registration
numbers and a pair of Certificates of Proficiency. Don’t you just wish you
actually had those? You must have dreams about it. The pity for you is that
you didn’t even achieve the absolute base level entry point into any
apprenticeship ever. Forget about an aviation apprenticeship, you were so
far below the entry level requirement mark it was impossible to crane your
neck far enough to see it. Way out of your reach.

So, come on Darren, shoot me down in flames and ante up with the requisite
proof, your bum chums are also waiting.

Xeno
———

On 12/10/2021 11:16 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 12/10/2021 11:16 am, jonz wrote:
>> On 10/11/2021 11:42 PM, Clocky wrote:
>
>>
>>>   I've always maintained that it was up to the claimant to show the
>>> placeholders of these deleted posts. Since he hasn't clearly there
>>> were no deleted posts. I reposted what I said every time he came out
>>> with his nonsense version of history however he seems determined to
>>> believe in his alternate reality.
>>>
>>> Perhaps we should ask
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>    WE?. Well, I guess you *are* hopeless on yer own eh??.
>
> It's *not* what he's "always maintained" at all,

<snip absurd rant>

Yes it is as my posting history shows. If the one you dubbed the
"village idiot" wants to believe your perversion of events that his
business but the fact remains, and he should know this, that I never
supported Xeno or the notion that there were deleted posts and always
maintained that it was up to him to show the placeholders.

I'm not sure why you are so determined to twist this into me supporting
Xeno and believing there were deleted posts. It doesn't make any sense.
I expressed that I would like to see where these placeholders were and
that the onus was on Xeno which supports *your* position more than his.
Your take on this is perplexing in it's absurdity, even for you.

On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 11:43:39 +1100, Noddy wrote:

> On 12/10/2021 11:16 am, jonz wrote:
>> On 10/11/2021 11:42 PM, Clocky wrote:
>
>>> how that investigation into the horse porn is going instead, you know
>>> the one where he was so outraged that he was going take legal action.
>>> All those false accusations until it got close to the actual source,
>>> then followed by silence...
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>  Do tell??.. So, who is the miscreant then.? C'mon spit it out...
>
> I see we have *more* bullshit from this relevance deprived junior. <yawn>

Actually, you don't "see" Fraudster. Literally. Your incompetent helper has
only reposted less than half of the OP. Excluding, weirdly, the start of
the sentence that he's begun his inept sniping from. ('With friends like
this...')

And generally, why is Der Der so immensely keen on this "relevance
deprived" phrase? Like, how does pointing out his lies and incompetence
affect ones "relevance"? And "relevance" to what? Even the Fraudster has
denigrated this ng so it can't be that, so what is it? Like most of his
errr... 'thought processes', it's a mystery.

>
> There was never any "investigation" on my part,

Um... He didn't say there was Der Der.

> and this is just
> *another* example of the bullshit these morons will resort to in their
> constant battle to find something to fucking *whine* about.

Ah! That'd be where "whine" equals pointing out your hypocrisy and/or lies.
And it's not a "battle" Fraudster, it's a siege. Remember, you're holed up
in Castle Killfail.

> My name's
> not Jerky Birko. I don't conduct "investigations" only to turn around
> and become best friends with the shit talking retard I'm investigating :)

lol! I'm *very* confident that many times you've called the very person you
asked to repost stuff for you the equivalent of a "shit talking moron"
many, many times. Buffoon.
>
> There is no secret here. I posted about what I did, and it's all on the
> record for anyone to see for themselves. I made a complaint and handed
> the post over to the relevant authority who replied in saying that while
> the act of physically engaging in Bestiality

(Your Random Capitaliser is still 'working' fine I see)

> was illegal, broadcasting
> videos depicting it was not. If I remember correctly

Hahahahaha. Nice one centurion! Like it!
I just read you 'remembering' Foxtel V Kayo a couple of hours ago which was
a typical example of your inability to "remember correctly". ie You have
absolutely no credibility in "remembering correctly" Fraudster.

> there was some
> argument that posting adult material in a public forum without the
> appropriate notice may have constituted a breach of the law, but they
> didn't consider it serious enough to bother following it up and that was
> that.
>
> End of story.
>
> It *is* interesting to note though that as disgusting as that material
> was, all the complaint from the FLC was *not* aimed at whoever posted it
> or the offensiveness of the material itself, but at me in objecting to it.

As it was before my time I can't comment. But there *is* an amusing aspect
to a foul-mouthed gobshite and self-described Hard Man running to Mummy Gov
over a spot of bestiality. Hypocrisy exposed affects some people like
that...
>
> Pretty much shows you how fucked up these retards are right there :)

Nope.
You calling those who believe that you're a liar, hypocrite & fraud
"retards", "mongs" etc will *never* change the fact that you *are* a liar,
hypocrite & fraud Fraudster.

Of course you could always challenge any of those *facts* Der Der. So why
don't you?

alvey

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On 10/12/2021 1:44 PM, Clocky wrote:
> On 12/10/2021 8:43 am, Noddy wrote:
>> On 12/10/2021 11:16 am, jonz wrote:
>>> On 10/11/2021 11:42 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>>> how that investigation into the horse porn is going instead, you
>>>> know the one where he was so outraged that he was going take legal
>>>> action. All those false accusations until it got close to the
>>>> actual source, then followed by silence...
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>   Do tell??.. So, who is the miscreant then.? C'mon spit it out...
>>
>> I see we have *more* bullshit from this relevance deprived junior.
>> <yawn>
>>
>> There was never any "investigation" on my part
>
> I never said *you* were doing the investigating... you had already
> made up your mind.
>
> You made plenty of laughable threats though, well until investigations
> pointed to you being waaaaaaay of the mark. Then you fell silent. All
> of  sudden it just had to go away. Right, boy?
>
> As far as the question posed by the one you dubbed the 'village idiot'
> is concerned, he can go and look it up for himself, it's in the
> archives for all to find.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 OH, be still my beating heart. :):):)...

   It would appear (as per usual) that *you* are simply talking shit.
<SHRUG>

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On 11/10/2021 8:16 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 11/10/2021 5:51 pm, alvey wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 16:25:38 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/10/2021 11:53 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 11/10/2021 9:27 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 11/10/2021 10:18 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/10/2021 8:13 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/10/2021 11:04 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 11:12:06 +1100, Trevor Wilson
>>>>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We've all seen them. Some of us own cars with them. I do. Or
>>>>>>>>> did. I
>>>>>>>>> refer, of course, to Sun damaged polycarb headlights. I spent an
>>>>>>>>> hour or
>>>>>>>>> so over the long weekend using this product:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/dc/v000087445/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Outstanding! SO much more light on the road from the Stagea HID
>>>>>>>>> headlights. Nice sharp cut-off. Just fabulous.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I did quite a bit of research, before I chose the 3M product. The
>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>> other product I considered was the Sylvania one. It was a lot more
>>>>>>>>> expensive, more difficult to obtain and required a lot more elbow
>>>>>>>>> grease
>>>>>>>>> (no drill required).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyway, for anyone wanting to tart up their headlights, the 3M
>>>>>>>>> product
>>>>>>>>> is brilliant. Instructions are clear and easy to understand.
>>>>>>>>> All you
>>>>>>>>> need to add is a drill/driver and a spritzer bottle of water.
>>>>>>>> What a great project for a 3D printer.  New lenses for old.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cost of equipment and printed polycarbonate not being clear are two
>>>>>>> reasons it's not really viable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I should add for the average home hobby printer, it is possible but
>>>>>> it's expensive.
>>>>> The average hone printer isn't going to print anything that large and
>>>>> the finish wouldn't be anywhere near good enough.
>>>> Thanks Keef O' Paradox for confirming what I already said, that's it's
>>>> not viable for a home hobbyist but possible using expensive equipment.
>>>>
>>> No, you said "for the average home hobby printer, it is possible but
>>> it's expensive.", I said that it wasn't even possible on a home printer.
>> “Whatever - you're wrong but I can't be bothered to keep up this
>> pointless argument.”
>>
>>> If you can't see the difference there you must be more stupid than I
>>> gave you credit for.
>> And 'Whatever 2'... It's almost interesting that some of these Fraudster
>> enablers are so keen to try and score microscopically petty points, yet
>> will happily ignore the big picture. Incredible that they bleat about
>> "relevance". lol.
>>
>
> yes

Little felix peeked from behind the curtain and d=said "Me too"

>> alvey
>> Waving a fond goodbye to Corporal Cliche as he plods off on his mighty
>> war
>> donkey. "Bye Corporal! Be careful not to let donkey step on your ego. You
>> know how easily it bruises".
>>
>>
>>
>

On 13/10/2021 4:45 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 11/10/2021 8:16 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 11/10/2021 5:51 pm, alvey wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 16:25:38 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/10/2021 11:53 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 11/10/2021 9:27 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/10/2021 10:18 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/10/2021 8:13 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/10/2021 11:04 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 11:12:06 +1100, Trevor Wilson
>>>>>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We've all seen them. Some of us own cars with them. I do. Or
>>>>>>>>>> did. I
>>>>>>>>>> refer, of course, to Sun damaged polycarb headlights. I spent an
>>>>>>>>>> hour or
>>>>>>>>>> so over the long weekend using this product:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/dc/v000087445/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Outstanding! SO much more light on the road from the Stagea HID
>>>>>>>>>> headlights. Nice sharp cut-off. Just fabulous.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I did quite a bit of research, before I chose the 3M product.
>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>> other product I considered was the Sylvania one. It was a lot
>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>> expensive, more difficult to obtain and required a lot more
>>>>>>>>>> elbow
>>>>>>>>>> grease
>>>>>>>>>> (no drill required).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, for anyone wanting to tart up their headlights, the 3M
>>>>>>>>>> product
>>>>>>>>>> is brilliant. Instructions are clear and easy to understand.
>>>>>>>>>> All you
>>>>>>>>>> need to add is a drill/driver and a spritzer bottle of water.
>>>>>>>>> What a great project for a 3D printer.  New lenses for old.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cost of equipment and printed polycarbonate not being clear are
>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>> reasons it's not really viable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I should add for the average home hobby printer, it is possible but
>>>>>>> it's expensive.
>>>>>> The average hone printer isn't going to print anything that large
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> the finish wouldn't be anywhere near good enough.
>>>>> Thanks Keef O' Paradox for confirming what I already said, that's
>>>>> it's
>>>>> not viable for a home hobbyist but possible using expensive
>>>>> equipment.
>>>>>
>>>> No, you said "for the average home hobby printer, it is possible but
>>>> it's expensive.", I said that it wasn't even possible on a home
>>>> printer.
>>> “Whatever - you're wrong but I can't be bothered to keep up this
>>> pointless argument.”
>>>
>>>> If you can't see the difference there you must be more stupid than I
>>>> gave you credit for.
>>> And 'Whatever 2'... It's almost interesting that some of these
>>> Fraudster
>>> enablers are so keen to try and score microscopically petty points, yet
>>> will happily ignore the big picture. Incredible that they bleat about
>>> "relevance". lol.
>>>
>>
>> yes
>
> Little felix peeked from behind the curtain and d=said "Me too"
>

you're an idiot

--
"A mans got to know his limitations"
- clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry

On 10/13/2021 4:57 PM, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 13/10/2021 4:45 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 11/10/2021 8:16 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 11/10/2021 5:51 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 16:25:38 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/10/2021 11:53 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/10/2021 9:27 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/10/2021 10:18 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/10/2021 8:13 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/10/2021 11:04 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 11:12:06 +1100, Trevor Wilson
>>>>>>>>>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We've all seen them. Some of us own cars with them. I do. Or
>>>>>>>>>>> did. I
>>>>>>>>>>> refer, of course, to Sun damaged polycarb headlights. I
>>>>>>>>>>> spent an
>>>>>>>>>>> hour or
>>>>>>>>>>> so over the long weekend using this product:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/dc/v000087445/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Outstanding! SO much more light on the road from the Stagea HID
>>>>>>>>>>> headlights. Nice sharp cut-off. Just fabulous.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I did quite a bit of research, before I chose the 3M
>>>>>>>>>>> product. The
>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>> other product I considered was the Sylvania one. It was a
>>>>>>>>>>> lot more
>>>>>>>>>>> expensive, more difficult to obtain and required a lot more
>>>>>>>>>>> elbow
>>>>>>>>>>> grease
>>>>>>>>>>> (no drill required).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, for anyone wanting to tart up their headlights, the 3M
>>>>>>>>>>> product
>>>>>>>>>>> is brilliant. Instructions are clear and easy to understand.
>>>>>>>>>>> All you
>>>>>>>>>>> need to add is a drill/driver and a spritzer bottle of water.
>>>>>>>>>> What a great project for a 3D printer.  New lenses for old.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cost of equipment and printed polycarbonate not being clear
>>>>>>>>> are two
>>>>>>>>> reasons it's not really viable.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I should add for the average home hobby printer, it is possible
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> it's expensive.
>>>>>>> The average hone printer isn't going to print anything that
>>>>>>> large and
>>>>>>> the finish wouldn't be anywhere near good enough.
>>>>>> Thanks Keef O' Paradox for confirming what I already said, that's
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>> not viable for a home hobbyist but possible using expensive
>>>>>> equipment.
>>>>>>
>>>>> No, you said "for the average home hobby printer, it is possible but
>>>>> it's expensive.", I said that it wasn't even possible on a home
>>>>> printer.
>>>> “Whatever - you're wrong but I can't be bothered to keep up this
>>>> pointless argument.”
>>>>
>>>>> If you can't see the difference there you must be more stupid than I
>>>>> gave you credit for.
>>>> And 'Whatever 2'... It's almost interesting that some of these
>>>> Fraudster
>>>> enablers are so keen to try and score microscopically petty points,
>>>> yet
>>>> will happily ignore the big picture. Incredible that they bleat about
>>>> "relevance". lol.
>>>>
>>>
>>> yes
>>
>> Little felix peeked from behind the curtain and d=said "Me too"
>>
>
> you're an idiot

~~~~~~~~~~

Nope, He is absolutely *correct* regarding *you* and your brain-dead
coat tailing!.

>
>

--
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea. Massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of
mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." — Gene
Spafford, 1992