I'm sorting and cataloging my Mum's late husband's books, and stumbled
over a sorting problem. I remember being taught this mumble decades ago,
but the old forgettery is playing up. I'm building a spreadsheet that has
columns for:
* author surname
* author name

How do I split the surname from the following authors:
Guy de la Bedoyere
Gregory of Tours
Simeon of Durham
Cheshire Federation of Women's Institutes
Fritz von und zur Heimlich
Auchindrain Museum
Pupils of Aisacraig Primary School

jgh

Well looking at my smart phone, well listening to it, the name ones are easy
as von is part of the surname etc. The ones that are associations need a
company field in the case of the phone and if it has date then it becomes
part of the surname field cluster for searches.

Others may disagree, but it seem logical to me.
Brian

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"Jonathan Harston" <jgh@mdfs.net> wrote in message
news:948c7a2e-e4d5-4e5c-b365-c2e8ef05753an@googlegroups.com...
> I'm sorting and cataloging my Mum's late husband's books, and stumbled
> over a sorting problem. I remember being taught this mumble decades ago,
> but the old forgettery is playing up. I'm building a spreadsheet that has
> columns for:
> * author surname
> * author name
>
> How do I split the surname from the following authors:
> Guy de la Bedoyere
> Gregory of Tours
> Simeon of Durham
> Cheshire Federation of Women's Institutes
> Fritz von und zur Heimlich
> Auchindrain Museum
> Pupils of Aisacraig Primary School
>
> jgh

On 2022-02-19, Jonathan Harston <jgh@mdfs.net> wrote:
> I'm sorting and cataloging my Mum's late husband's books, and stumbled
> over a sorting problem. I remember being taught this mumble decades ago,
> but the old forgettery is playing up. I'm building a spreadsheet that has
> columns for:
> * author surname
> * author name
>
> How do I split the surname from the following authors:
> Guy de la Bedoyere

The definitive document for catalouing in English is Anglo-American
Cataloguing Rules, second edition. Sometimes fondly known as AACR2.
Sometimes not fondly known as AACR2. But it's no longer available as a
paper publication.

In English catalogues the surname would be 'de la Bedoyere.' In some
European catalogues it would be Bedoyere with 'de la' as a separate prefix.

But the golden rule is to file things where the people using the system
expect to find them. You need to decide whether to create another field for
institutions or to put institution names into the surname field. Then do
that consistently. Decide whether to put Gregory into the forename field or
Gregory of Tours into the surname. Then do that consistemtly

--
Bernard Peek
bap@shrdlu.com

On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 15:32:55 -0800 (PST), Jonathan Harston
<jgh@mdfs.net> wrote:

>I'm sorting and cataloging my Mum's late husband's books, and stumbled
>over a sorting problem. I remember being taught this mumble decades ago,
>but the old forgettery is playing up. I'm building a spreadsheet that has
>columns for:
>* author surname
>* author name
>
>How do I split the surname from the following authors:
>Guy de la Bedoyere
>Gregory of Tours
>Simeon of Durham
>Cheshire Federation of Women's Institutes
>Fritz von und zur Heimlich
>Auchindrain Museum
>Pupils of Aisacraig Primary School
>
There was a legend at a company I once worked for about a YTS filing
clerk they once had. Yes, it was a long time ago.

Told to sort out the filing system and get the customer records into
alphabetical order, she worked away diligently until people realised
that they were no longer able to find anything any more. Until, that
is, they discovered that everything was filed under "M" for Miss, Mr
and Mrs.

Nick

Yes, I heard a similar tale from a record shop, where every group with the
word the in front of it was under T.
Whenever you give a job to someone, never assume they know your local way
of working. Its similar to computer programming, you have to specify exactly
what you need or it will get it wrong. In many databases you find words
defined which are to be ignored in the filing process.

Brian

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"Nick Odell" <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote in message
news:15q61hlk1rf1bh5dc6b0ke4esehvcg710e@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 15:32:55 -0800 (PST), Jonathan Harston
> <jgh@mdfs.net> wrote:
>
>>I'm sorting and cataloging my Mum's late husband's books, and stumbled
>>over a sorting problem. I remember being taught this mumble decades ago,
>>but the old forgettery is playing up. I'm building a spreadsheet that has
>>columns for:
>>* author surname
>>* author name
>>
>>How do I split the surname from the following authors:
>>Guy de la Bedoyere
>>Gregory of Tours
>>Simeon of Durham
>>Cheshire Federation of Women's Institutes
>>Fritz von und zur Heimlich
>>Auchindrain Museum
>>Pupils of Aisacraig Primary School
>>
> There was a legend at a company I once worked for about a YTS filing
> clerk they once had. Yes, it was a long time ago.
>
> Told to sort out the filing system and get the customer records into
> alphabetical order, she worked away diligently until people realised
> that they were no longer able to find anything any more. Until, that
> is, they discovered that everything was filed under "M" for Miss, Mr
> and Mrs.
>
> Nick

On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:50:32 -0000
"Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> Yes, I heard a similar tale from a record shop, where every group with
> the word the in front of it was under T.
> Whenever you give a job to someone, never assume they know your local
> way of working. Its similar to computer programming, you have to specify
> exactly what you need or it will get it wrong. In many databases you
> find words defined which are to be ignored in the filing process.

That led to a wonderful oops in early search engines (nearly all of
them) in that they usually had a list of words not to index (every document
is peppered with "the", "and", "to" ...) which is fine but adding phrase
search by looking at adjcent indexed words failed horribly on a collection
of classic English literature and the phrase "To be or not to be".

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

In article <slrnt14q8c.9uc.bap@gamma.gizmodynamics.com>, Bernard Peek
<bap@shrdlu.com> on Sun, 20 Feb 2022 at 16:15:08 awoke Nicholas from
his slumbers and wrote
>On 2022-02-19, Jonathan Harston <jgh@mdfs.net> wrote:
>> I'm sorting and cataloging my Mum's late husband's books, and stumbled
>> over a sorting problem. I remember being taught this mumble decades ago,
>> but the old forgettery is playing up. I'm building a spreadsheet that has
>> columns for:
>> * author surname
>> * author name
>>
>> How do I split the surname from the following authors:
>> Guy de la Bedoyere
>
>The definitive document for catalouing in English is Anglo-American
>Cataloguing Rules, second edition. Sometimes fondly known as AACR2.
>Sometimes not fondly known as AACR2. But it's no longer available as a
>paper publication.
>
>In English catalogues the surname would be 'de la Bedoyere.' In some
>European catalogues it would be Bedoyere with 'de la' as a separate prefix.
>
>But the golden rule is to file things where the people using the system
>expect to find them. You need to decide whether to create another field for
>institutions or to put institution names into the surname field. Then do
>that consistently. Decide whether to put Gregory into the forename field or
>Gregory of Tours into the surname. Then do that consistemtly
>
>
>
During lock down I have spent quite a time looking at booksellers lists
of books that they are selling, new and used. Without disagreeing in
anyway with the above, may I suggest fields, Title of Book, Surname,
Forenames, Organisation (for instance NHS, or Tours), Publisher, Date of
Publication. Other fields (depending upon desired purpose) might include
a summary of contents, state of the book.

With the exception of the Title field not all fields need to be
populated for a particular book.

One of the great advantages of digitised spread sheets is that they can
be sorted by different columns.
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"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

In article <20220221121708.5930044a40da6db40da76498@eircom.net>, Ahem A
Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> on Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 12:17:08 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:50:32 -0000
>"Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I heard a similar tale from a record shop, where every group with
>> the word the in front of it was under T.
>> Whenever you give a job to someone, never assume they know your local
>> way of working. Its similar to computer programming, you have to specify
>> exactly what you need or it will get it wrong. In many databases you
>> find words defined which are to be ignored in the filing process.
>
> That led to a wonderful oops in early search engines (nearly all of
>them) in that they usually had a list of words not to index (every document
>is peppered with "the", "and", "to" ...) which is fine but adding phrase
>search by looking at adjcent indexed words failed horribly on a collection
>of classic English literature and the phrase "To be or not to be".
>
Or What you will?

--
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"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

On 21-Feb-22 12:17, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:50:32 -0000
> "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I heard a similar tale from a record shop, where every group with
>> the word the in front of it was under T.
>> Whenever you give a job to someone, never assume they know your local
>> way of working. Its similar to computer programming, you have to specify
>> exactly what you need or it will get it wrong. In many databases you
>> find words defined which are to be ignored in the filing process.
>
> That led to a wonderful oops in early search engines (nearly all of
> them) in that they usually had a list of words not to index (every document
> is peppered with "the", "and", "to" ...) which is fine but adding phrase
> search by looking at adjcent indexed words failed horribly on a collection
> of classic English literature and the phrase "To be or not to be".
>

It also explains why "The The" are no longer selling lots of records.

--
Sam Plusnet

On 21/02/2022 12:17, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:50:32 -0000
> "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I heard a similar tale from a record shop, where every group with
>> the word the in front of it was under T.
>> Whenever you give a job to someone, never assume they know your local
>> way of working. Its similar to computer programming, you have to specify
>> exactly what you need or it will get it wrong. In many databases you
>> find words defined which are to be ignored in the filing process.
>
> That led to a wonderful oops in early search engines (nearly all of
> them) in that they usually had a list of words not to index (every document
> is peppered with "the", "and", "to" ...) which is fine but adding phrase
> search by looking at adjcent indexed words failed horribly on a collection
> of classic English literature and the phrase "To be or not to be".

Not to mention early Windoze applications which barred rude words, so
users in Scunthorpe, Cockfosters, and any other places whose names
contained innocent combinations with such elements became incommunicado.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

In article <sv10rn$6d4$1@dont-email.me>, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.
girolle.co.uk> on Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 21:40:07 awoke Nicholas from his
slumbers and wrote
>On 21/02/2022 12:17, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:50:32 -0000
>> "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I heard a similar tale from a record shop, where every group with
>>> the word the in front of it was under T.
>>> Whenever you give a job to someone, never assume they know your local
>>> way of working. Its similar to computer programming, you have to specify
>>> exactly what you need or it will get it wrong. In many databases you
>>> find words defined which are to be ignored in the filing process.
>>
>> That led to a wonderful oops in early search engines (nearly all of
>> them) in that they usually had a list of words not to index (every document
>> is peppered with "the", "and", "to" ...) which is fine but adding phrase
>> search by looking at adjcent indexed words failed horribly on a collection
>> of classic English literature and the phrase "To be or not to be".
>
>Not to mention early Windoze applications which barred rude words, so
>users in Scunthorpe, Cockfosters, and any other places whose names
>contained innocent combinations with such elements became incommunicado.
>
As I remember it, it was when AOL first launched their DOS Client
(floppies attached to IT magazines) in the UK providing dial-up access
to the Internet circa 1993. Indeed you could not sign up if you lived in
Scunthorpe.
--
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"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

On 21/02/2022 23:51, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
> In article <sv10rn$6d4$1@dont-email.me>, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.
> girolle.co.uk> on Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 21:40:07 awoke Nicholas from his
> slumbers and wrote
>> On 21/02/2022 12:17, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:50:32 -0000
>>> "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, I heard a similar tale from a record shop, where every group with
>>>> the word the in front of it was under T.
>>>> Whenever you give a job to someone, never assume they know your local
>>>> way of working. Its similar to computer programming, you have to specify
>>>> exactly what you need or it will get it wrong. In many databases you
>>>> find words defined which are to be ignored in the filing process.
>>>
>>> That led to a wonderful oops in early search engines (nearly all of
>>> them) in that they usually had a list of words not to index (every document
>>> is peppered with "the", "and", "to" ...) which is fine but adding phrase
>>> search by looking at adjcent indexed words failed horribly on a collection
>>> of classic English literature and the phrase "To be or not to be".
>>
>> Not to mention early Windoze applications which barred rude words, so
>> users in Scunthorpe, Cockfosters, and any other places whose names
>> contained innocent combinations with such elements became incommunicado.
>>
> As I remember it, it was when AOL first launched their DOS Client
> (floppies attached to IT magazines) in the UK providing dial-up access
> to the Internet circa 1993. Indeed you could not sign up if you lived in
> Scunthorpe.

Long thyme a go - IIRC I was running DOS 1.? at the time and Linux FT
shortly afterwards.

Linux FT was sold off and later morphed into SuSE. While that was
happening I moved to Debian, and tried a lot of other flavours of Linux
TAAAW. I've probably still got most of them - if the seedies have survived.

Then I had an IBM-compatible built - latest everything: 386SX with a
massive 40 MB hard drive, and an equally massive 4 MB of RAM. I believe
that machine is still running as a word-processor

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 21:40:07 +0000
RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:

> Not to mention early Windoze applications which barred rude words, so
> users in Scunthorpe, Cockfosters, and any other places whose names
> contained innocent combinations with such elements became incommunicado.

The inhabitants of the Austrian village Fücking have similar
troubles to this day.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 04:08:52 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
wrote:

> The inhabitants of the Austrian village Fücking have similar
>troubles to this day.

It was even worse, u not ü:-) As the signs were popular with tourists, they
first welded the sign bolts on, then changed the reflective foil/sheet metal
bespoke signs to cheap printed foil stuck on summat.

The village eventually renamed itself to Fugging -- as of Jan 1, 2021, so not
ancient history...

(This story turned up in the news repeatedly in silly season... ongoing battle
of village with tourists, cost significant, etc etc )

Thomas Prufer

On 22/02/2022 04:08, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 21:40:07 +0000
> RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Not to mention early Windoze applications which barred rude words, so
>> users in Scunthorpe, Cockfosters, and any other places whose names
>> contained innocent combinations with such elements became incommunicado.
>
> The inhabitants of the Austrian village Fücking have similar
> troubles to this day.
>
Their light beer is nice.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:38:13 +0100
Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> wrote:

> The village eventually renamed itself to Fugging -- as of Jan 1, 2021, so
> not ancient history...

I missed hearing about that - did the beer get renamed too ?
</silly question>.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

Nicholas D. Richards said:
> In article <sv10rn$6d4$1@dont-email.me>, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.
>>
>>Not to mention early Windoze applications which barred rude words, so
>>users in Scunthorpe, Cockfosters, and any other places whose names
>>contained innocent combinations with such elements became incommunicado.
>>
> As I remember it, it was when AOL first launched their DOS Client
> (floppies attached to IT magazines) in the UK providing dial-up access
> to the Internet circa 1993. Indeed you could not sign up if you lived in
> Scunthorpe.

I remember a similiar story of Compuserve, mid-90s; instituted a Rude
Words list, their Oernfg Pnapre Fhccbeg Tebhc disappeared. The story
has croppped up in The News a couple of times since, of various
organisations.

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

On 2022-02-22, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
> On 21/02/2022 23:51, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
>> In article <sv10rn$6d4$1@dont-email.me>, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.
>> girolle.co.uk> on Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 21:40:07 awoke Nicholas from his
>> slumbers and wrote
>>> On 21/02/2022 12:17, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:50:32 -0000
>>>> "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I heard a similar tale from a record shop, where every group with
>>>>> the word the in front of it was under T.
>>>>> Whenever you give a job to someone, never assume they know your local
>>>>> way of working. Its similar to computer programming, you have to specify
>>>>> exactly what you need or it will get it wrong. In many databases you
>>>>> find words defined which are to be ignored in the filing process.
>>>>
>>>> That led to a wonderful oops in early search engines (nearly all of
>>>> them) in that they usually had a list of words not to index (every document
>>>> is peppered with "the", "and", "to" ...) which is fine but adding phrase
>>>> search by looking at adjcent indexed words failed horribly on a collection
>>>> of classic English literature and the phrase "To be or not to be".
>>>
>>> Not to mention early Windoze applications which barred rude words, so
>>> users in Scunthorpe, Cockfosters, and any other places whose names
>>> contained innocent combinations with such elements became incommunicado.
>>>
>> As I remember it, it was when AOL first launched their DOS Client
>> (floppies attached to IT magazines) in the UK providing dial-up access
>> to the Internet circa 1993. Indeed you could not sign up if you lived in
>> Scunthorpe.
>
> Long thyme a go - IIRC I was running DOS 1.? at the time and Linux FT
> shortly afterwards.
>
> Linux FT was sold off and later morphed into SuSE. While that was
> happening I moved to Debian, and tried a lot of other flavours of Linux
> TAAAW. I've probably still got most of them - if the seedies have survived.
>
> Then I had an IBM-compatible built - latest everything: 386SX with a
> massive 40 MB hard drive, and an equally massive 4 MB of RAM. I believe
> that machine is still running as a word-processor
>

If its not broke, don't fix it.
--
greymausg@mail.com
That's not a mousehole!

On 21/02/2022 23:51, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
> In article <sv10rn$6d4$1@dont-email.me>, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.
> girolle.co.uk> on Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 21:40:07 awoke Nicholas from his
> slumbers and wrote
>> On 21/02/2022 12:17, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:50:32 -0000
>>> "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, I heard a similar tale from a record shop, where every group with
>>>> the word the in front of it was under T.
>>>> Whenever you give a job to someone, never assume they know your local
>>>> way of working. Its similar to computer programming, you have to specify
>>>> exactly what you need or it will get it wrong. In many databases you
>>>> find words defined which are to be ignored in the filing process.
>>>
>>> That led to a wonderful oops in early search engines (nearly all of
>>> them) in that they usually had a list of words not to index (every document
>>> is peppered with "the", "and", "to" ...) which is fine but adding phrase
>>> search by looking at adjcent indexed words failed horribly on a collection
>>> of classic English literature and the phrase "To be or not to be".
>>
>> Not to mention early Windoze applications which barred rude words, so
>> users in Scunthorpe, Cockfosters, and any other places whose names
>> contained innocent combinations with such elements became incommunicado.
>>
> As I remember it, it was when AOL first launched their DOS Client
> (floppies attached to IT magazines) in the UK providing dial-up access
> to the Internet circa 1993. Indeed you could not sign up if you lived in
> Scunthorpe.
>

Well obviously you should have moved to Penistone.

--
Chris Elvidge
England

On 22/02/2022 07:38, Thomas Prufer wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 04:08:52 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
> wrote:
>
>> The inhabitants of the Austrian village Fücking have similar
>> troubles to this day.
>
> It was even worse, u not ü:-) As the signs were popular with tourists, they
> first welded the sign bolts on, then changed the reflective foil/sheet metal
> bespoke signs to cheap printed foil stuck on summat.
>
> The village eventually renamed itself to Fugging -- as of Jan 1, 2021, so not
> ancient history...
>
> (This story turned up in the news repeatedly in silly season... ongoing battle
> of village with tourists, cost significant, etc etc )

A sign giving a road name local to me always lasts - a breath or two...
Sluts Hole Lane doesn't have many residents.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 13:37:51 +0000, RustyHinge
<rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:

> On 22/02/2022 07:38, Thomas Prufer wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 04:08:52 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
>> <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The inhabitants of the Austrian village Fücking have similar
>>> troubles to this day.
>>
>> It was even worse, u not ü:-) As the signs were popular with tourists,
>> they first welded the sign bolts on, then changed the reflective
>> foil/sheet metal bespoke signs to cheap printed foil stuck on summat.
>>
>> The village eventually renamed itself to Fugging -- as of Jan 1, 2021,
>> so not ancient history...
>>
>> (This story turned up in the news repeatedly in silly season... ongoing
>> battle of village with tourists, cost significant, etc etc )
>
> A sign giving a road name local to me always lasts - a breath or two...
> Sluts Hole Lane doesn't have many residents.

Nice road in Upton Upon Severn ... minge lane. Sign is at ground level
built _into_ the wall and pavement.

Avpx

--
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read. (Guards! Guards!)
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On 22/02/2022 13:37, RustyHinge wrote:
> On 22/02/2022 07:38, Thomas Prufer wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 04:08:52 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
>> <steveo@eircom.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>     The inhabitants of the Austrian village Fücking have similar
>>> troubles to this day.
>>
>> It was even worse, u not ü:-) As the signs were popular with tourists,
>> they
>> first welded the sign bolts on, then changed the reflective foil/sheet
>> metal
>> bespoke signs to cheap printed foil stuck on summat.
>>
>> The village eventually renamed itself to Fugging -- as of Jan 1, 2021,
>> so not
>> ancient history...
>>
>> (This story turned up in the news repeatedly in silly season...
>> ongoing battle
>> of village with tourists, cost significant, etc etc )
>
> A sign giving a road name local to me always lasts - a breath or two...
> Sluts Hole Lane doesn't have many residents.
>
Just a handful of specialists?
C

On 22/02/2022 14:30, ChrisND@privacy.net wrote:
> On 22/02/2022 13:37, RustyHinge wrote:
>> On 22/02/2022 07:38, Thomas Prufer wrote:
>>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 04:08:52 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
>>> <steveo@eircom.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The inhabitants of the Austrian village Fücking have similar
>>>> troubles to this day.
>>>
>>> It was even worse, u not ü:-) As the signs were popular with
>>> tourists, they
>>> first welded the sign bolts on, then changed the reflective
>>> foil/sheet metal
>>> bespoke signs to cheap printed foil stuck on summat.
>>>
>>> The village eventually renamed itself to Fugging -- as of Jan 1,
>>> 2021, so not
>>> ancient history...
>>>
>>> (This story turned up in the news repeatedly in silly season...
>>> ongoing battle
>>> of village with tourists, cost significant, etc etc )
>>
>> A sign giving a road name local to me always lasts - a breath or
>> two... Sluts Hole Lane doesn't have many residents.
>>
> Just a handful of specialists?
> C

I remember a road (in Saddleworth as it happens, there are probably
others) called Lovers Lane.
Seems innocuous?
Until the council started work. It then read
Lovers Lane Danger Men At Work

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Chris Elvidge
England

On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 13:37:51 +0000
RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:

> A sign giving a road name local to me always lasts - a breath or two...
> Sluts Hole Lane doesn't have many residents.

Makes a change from Grape Stret which usually had a much more
interesting name in times past.

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Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

On 22/02/2022 14:16, The Nomad wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 13:37:51 +0000, RustyHinge
> <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 22/02/2022 07:38, Thomas Prufer wrote:
>>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 04:08:52 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
>>> <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The inhabitants of the Austrian village Fücking have similar
>>>> troubles to this day.
>>>
>>> It was even worse, u not ü:-) As the signs were popular with tourists,
>>> they first welded the sign bolts on, then changed the reflective
>>> foil/sheet metal bespoke signs to cheap printed foil stuck on summat.
>>>
>>> The village eventually renamed itself to Fugging -- as of Jan 1, 2021,
>>> so not ancient history...
>>>
>>> (This story turned up in the news repeatedly in silly season... ongoing
>>> battle of village with tourists, cost significant, etc etc )
>>
>> A sign giving a road name local to me always lasts - a breath or two...
>> Sluts Hole Lane doesn't have many residents.
>
> Nice road in Upton Upon Severn ... minge lane. Sign is at ground level
> built _into_ the wall and pavement.

Huh! Wouldn't worry our local thieves. Recently most of the local
telephone cables have been hauled out of the ground with 4x4s, and the
old iron postbox which used to live in a brick pillar by the crossroads,
is gorn, leaving a pile of ruble to mark the spot.

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Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.