On 22/02/2022 14:35, Chris Elvidge wrote:
> On 22/02/2022 14:30, ChrisND@privacy.net wrote:
>> On 22/02/2022 13:37, RustyHinge wrote:
>>> On 22/02/2022 07:38, Thomas Prufer wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 04:08:52 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
>>>> <steveo@eircom.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>     The inhabitants of the Austrian village Fücking have similar
>>>>> troubles to this day.
>>>>
>>>> It was even worse, u not ü:-) As the signs were popular with
>>>> tourists, they
>>>> first welded the sign bolts on, then changed the reflective
>>>> foil/sheet metal
>>>> bespoke signs to cheap printed foil stuck on summat.
>>>>
>>>> The village eventually renamed itself to Fugging -- as of Jan 1,
>>>> 2021, so not
>>>> ancient history...
>>>>
>>>> (This story turned up in the news repeatedly in silly season...
>>>> ongoing battle
>>>> of village with tourists, cost significant, etc etc )
>>>
>>> A sign giving a road name local to me always lasts - a breath or
>>> two... Sluts Hole Lane doesn't have many residents.
>>>
>> Just a handful of specialists?
>> C
>
> I remember a road (in Saddleworth as it happens, there are probably
> others) called Lovers Lane.
> Seems innocuous?
> Until the council started work. It then read
> Lovers Lane  Danger Men At Work

Threadneedle Street used to have a coarser name...

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On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 15:48:17 +0000, RustyHinge
<rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:

> On 22/02/2022 14:35, Chris Elvidge wrote:
>> On 22/02/2022 14:30, ChrisND@privacy.net wrote:
>>> On 22/02/2022 13:37, RustyHinge wrote:
>>>> On 22/02/2022 07:38, Thomas Prufer wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 04:08:52 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
>>>>> <steveo@eircom.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>     The inhabitants of the Austrian village Fücking have similar
>>>>>> troubles to this day.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was even worse, u not ü:-) As the signs were popular with
>>>>> tourists, they first welded the sign bolts on, then changed the
>>>>> reflective foil/sheet metal bespoke signs to cheap printed foil
>>>>> stuck on summat.
>>>>>
>>>>> The village eventually renamed itself to Fugging -- as of Jan 1,
>>>>> 2021, so not ancient history...
>>>>>
>>>>> (This story turned up in the news repeatedly in silly season...
>>>>> ongoing battle of village with tourists, cost significant, etc etc )
>>>>
>>>> A sign giving a road name local to me always lasts - a breath or
>>>> two... Sluts Hole Lane doesn't have many residents.
>>>>
>>> Just a handful of specialists?
>>> C
>>
>> I remember a road (in Saddleworth as it happens, there are probably
>> others) called Lovers Lane.
>> Seems innocuous?
>> Until the council started work. It then read Lovers Lane  Danger Men At
>> Work
>
> Threadneedle Street used to have a coarser name...

And possible more appropriate - even now ? :-)

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On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 15:48:17 +0000
RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:

> On 22/02/2022 14:35, Chris Elvidge wrote:

> > I remember a road (in Saddleworth as it happens, there are probably
> > others) called Lovers Lane.
> > Seems innocuous?
> > Until the council started work. It then read
> > Lovers Lane  Danger Men At Work
>
> Threadneedle Street used to have a coarser name...

I have heard it suggested that the current name is a eupemism for
the old one which seems plausible and would show a bit more imagination than
changing grap to grape and dropping the second word as happened all over
the place when form replaced function in street naming.

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In article <sv2ovh$a89$1@dont-email.me>, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.
girolle.co.uk> on Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 13:37:51 awoke Nicholas from his
slumbers and wrote
>On 22/02/2022 07:38, Thomas Prufer wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 04:08:52 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The inhabitants of the Austrian village Fücking have similar
>>> troubles to this day.
>>
>> It was even worse, u not ü:-) As the signs were popular with tourists, they
>> first welded the sign bolts on, then changed the reflective foil/sheet metal
>> bespoke signs to cheap printed foil stuck on summat.
>>
>> The village eventually renamed itself to Fugging -- as of Jan 1, 2021, so not
>> ancient history...
>>
>> (This story turned up in the news repeatedly in silly season... ongoing battle
>> of village with tourists, cost significant, etc etc )
>
>A sign giving a road name local to me always lasts - a breath or two...
>Sluts Hole Lane doesn't have many residents.
>
I do not suppose they picked up on Stew Lane. A "Stew" was a medieval
brothel and Stew Lane in London was recovered land from the Thames and
therefore outside the Authority of the City of London burgesses. So
guess what, it was populated with stews. If it had been called
Whorehouse Lane well....
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In article <sv30k1$1gp$2@dont-email.me>, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.
girolle.co.uk> on Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 15:48:17 awoke Nicholas from his
slumbers and wrote
>On 22/02/2022 14:35, Chris Elvidge wrote:
>> On 22/02/2022 14:30, ChrisND@privacy.net wrote:
>>> On 22/02/2022 13:37, RustyHinge wrote:
>>>> On 22/02/2022 07:38, Thomas Prufer wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 04:08:52 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
>>>>> <steveo@eircom.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>     The inhabitants of the Austrian village Fücking have similar
>>>>>> troubles to this day.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was even worse, u not ü:-) As the signs were popular with
>>>>> tourists, they
>>>>> first welded the sign bolts on, then changed the reflective
>>>>> foil/sheet metal
>>>>> bespoke signs to cheap printed foil stuck on summat.
>>>>>
>>>>> The village eventually renamed itself to Fugging -- as of Jan 1,
>>>>> 2021, so not
>>>>> ancient history...
>>>>>
>>>>> (This story turned up in the news repeatedly in silly season...
>>>>> ongoing battle
>>>>> of village with tourists, cost significant, etc etc )
>>>>
>>>> A sign giving a road name local to me always lasts - a breath or
>>>> two... Sluts Hole Lane doesn't have many residents.
>>>>
>>> Just a handful of specialists?
>>> C
>>
>> I remember a road (in Saddleworth as it happens, there are probably
>> others) called Lovers Lane.
>> Seems innocuous?
>> Until the council started work. It then read
>> Lovers Lane  Danger Men At Work
>
>Threadneedle Street used to have a coarser name...
>
Pray tell.

On the other hand it has housed Merchant Taylors Hall and the Guild
since the 14th century. Until the 16th Century it was part of Broad
Street.
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:27:17 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:38:13 +0100
>Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> wrote:
>
>> The village eventually renamed itself to Fugging -- as of Jan 1, 2021, so
>> not ancient history...
>
> I missed hearing about that - did the beer get renamed too ?
></silly question>.

I googled that, as I didn't know it.

It's called "Fucking Hell", ostensibly a "Hell" (a non-dark lager) "named after"
Fucking. Wikipedia says the trademark offices initially ruled against it, the
brewers argued that nonono the beer was a "Hell" or "Helles" named after that
village in Austria, and anyone who ready anything else into the name should go
and wash out their dirty nasty brains.

"Fellenberg and Krause intended to use the trademark as a brand name and use it
to produce Fucking Hell branded food and clothing.[6] The beer went on sale in
Europe, Asia and Australia in 2011.[1] In 2020, it was granted a United States
trademark.[8]"

I expect the beer itself to be average, relying on the "novelty" of the name...

Thomas Prufer

On Tuesday, 22 February 2022 at 11:27:55 UTC, Chris Elvidge wrote:
> Well obviously you should have moved to Penistone.

Some years ago there was a news story on The Sheffield Star's website
abour proposed changes to Penistone Road. Everybody's comments
got blocked.
jgh

On Monday, 21 February 2022 at 12:31:49 UTC, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
> During lock down I have spent quite a time looking at booksellers lists
> of books that they are selling, new and used. Without disagreeing in
> anyway with the above, may I suggest fields, Title of Book, Surname,
> Forenames, Organisation (for instance NHS, or Tours), Publisher, Date of
> Publication. Other fields (depending upon desired purpose) might include
> a summary of contents, state of the book.

That's close to what I've got so far with the first six boxes of about 40:
https://mdfs.net/User/JGH/Docs/Publishing/Mum'sBooks.xls

In article <su5a1hpkhr5p9k8vhttos2e3l563jck58d@4ax.com>, Thomas Prufer
<prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> on Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 18:15:24
awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:27:17 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:38:13 +0100
>>Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> The village eventually renamed itself to Fugging -- as of Jan 1, 2021, so
>>> not ancient history...
>>
>> I missed hearing about that - did the beer get renamed too ?
>></silly question>.
>
>I googled that, as I didn't know it.
>
>It's called "Fucking Hell", ostensibly a "Hell" (a non-dark lager) "named after"
>Fucking. Wikipedia says the trademark offices initially ruled against it, the
>brewers argued that nonono the beer was a "Hell" or "Helles" named after that
>village in Austria, and anyone who ready anything else into the name should go
>and wash out their dirty nasty brains.
>
>"Fellenberg and Krause intended to use the trademark as a brand name and use it
>to produce Fucking Hell branded food and clothing.[6] The beer went on sale in
>Europe, Asia and Australia in 2011.[1] In 2020, it was granted a United States
>trademark.[8]"
>
>I expect the beer itself to be average, relying on the "novelty" of the name...
>
>Thomas Prufer

I gather that there were some objections to the name ISP called Demon.
There were one or two people at work who turned their noses up at my e-
mule address. It would have been worse I suppose if they had discovered
the Demon had managed to collar a number of telephone numbers that ended
in 666. I wonder if Vodophone have released those telephone numbers or
have they hung on to them. Certainly they refused to sell the name Demon
so that the old Demon e-mail names could continue.
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 18:15:24 +0100
Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:27:17 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
> <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:38:13 +0100
> >Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> The village eventually renamed itself to Fugging -- as of Jan 1, 2021,
> >> so not ancient history...
> >
> > I missed hearing about that - did the beer get renamed too ?
> ></silly question>.
>
> I googled that, as I didn't know it.

Oh right, it's the reason I know of the village in the first place.

> It's called "Fucking Hell", ostensibly a "Hell" (a non-dark lager) "named
> after" Fucking. Wikipedia says the trademark offices initially ruled
> against it, the brewers argued that nonono the beer was a "Hell" or
> "Helles" named after that village in Austria, and anyone who ready
> anything else into the name should go and wash out their dirty nasty
> brains.

Apparently one objection came from Fucking itself on the grounds
that the beer wasn't brewed there.

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On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 17:05:14 +0000
"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:

> In article <sv30k1$1gp$2@dont-email.me>, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.

> >Threadneedle Street used to have a coarser name...
> >
> Pray tell.

It was one of the many Gropecunt Lanes in that nodnoL.

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On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 11:27:54 +0000
Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> wrote:

> Well obviously you should have moved to Penistone.

That sounds even nastier than kidney stones.

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On 22/02/2022 11:27, Chris Elvidge wrote:
>> Indeed you could not sign up if you lived in
>> Scunthorpe.
>>
>
> Well obviously you should have moved to Penistone.
>

Or Wetwang?

Tone

On 22/02/2022 15:46, RustyHinge wrote:
>> Nice road in Upton Upon Severn ... minge lane.  Sign is at ground level
>> built _into_ the wall and pavement.
>
> Huh! Wouldn't worry our local thieves. Recently most of the local
> telephone cables have been hauled out of the ground with 4x4s, and the
> old iron postbox which used to live in a brick pillar by the crossroads,
> is gorn, leaving a pile of ruble to mark the spot.
>
> --
> Rusty Hinge

Wozzen there a case a few hectare fortnights ago when they somehow
nicked a mile or three of live overhead electric train cable?

Shockingly antisocial!

Tone

On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 17:36:54 +0000
"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:

> I gather that there were some objections to the name ISP called Demon.

I was told about an attempt by some bible belt Americans to get them
blocked in the USA by one of the founders, the early customer whose
subdomain was 'evil' did not help the reputation.

--
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Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 17:36:54 +0000
> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
>
> > I gather that there were some objections to the name ISP called Demon.
> >
>
> I was told about an attempt by some bible belt Americans to get
> them blocked in the USA by one of the founders, the early customer whose
> subdomain was 'evil' did not help the reputation.
>

Way back in ~'95 when I was posting from *@demon,
I did catch some very 'anti' comments about it.

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On 22/02/2022 17:05, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
> In article <sv30k1$1gp$2@dont-email.me>, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.
> girolle.co.uk> on Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 15:48:17 awoke

>> Threadneedle Street used to have a coarser name...
>>
> Pray tell.

IIRC it was called Tebcrphag Fgerrg

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In article <sv3fnv$md2$1@dont-email.me>, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.
girolle.co.uk> on Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 20:06:22 awoke Nicholas from his
slumbers and wrote
>On 22/02/2022 17:05, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
>> In article <sv30k1$1gp$2@dont-email.me>, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.
>> girolle.co.uk> on Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 15:48:17 awoke
>
>>> Threadneedle Street used to have a coarser name...
>>>
>> Pray tell.
>
>IIRC it was called Tebcrphag Fgerrg
>
I was hoping it was called Tehagshggbpx'f Parade but then he later lived
on the Onyy'f Cbaq Road.

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Jonathan Harston said:
> On Tuesday, 22 February 2022 at 11:27:55 UTC, Chris Elvidge wrote:
>> Well obviously you should have moved to Penistone.
>
> Some years ago there was a news story on The Sheffield Star's website
> abour proposed changes to Penistone Road. Everybody's comments
> got blocked.
> jgh

Not very many years ago, the R4 news had a story about "Plymouth Ho"
being thought to contain Rude Words. On checking it seems to have
become 'Hoe' since I Were Young.

Also, please, an Honourable Mention for Pyvgurebr.

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"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

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Nicholas D. Richards said:
> In article <su5a1hpkhr5p9k8vhttos2e3l563jck58d@4ax.com>, Thomas Prufer
>>On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:27:17 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
>>>Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The village eventually renamed itself to Fugging -- as of Jan 1, 2021, so
>>>> not ancient history...
>>>
>>> I missed hearing about that - did the beer get renamed too ?
>>></silly question>.
>>
>>I googled that, as I didn't know it.
>>
>>It's called "Fucking Hell", ostensibly a "Hell" (a non-dark lager) "named after"
>>Fucking. Wikipedia says the trademark offices initially ruled against it, the
>>brewers argued that nonono the beer was a "Hell" or "Helles" named after that
>>village in Austria, and anyone who ready anything else into the name should go
>>and wash out their dirty nasty brains.
>>
>>"Fellenberg and Krause intended to use the trademark as a brand name and use it
>>to produce Fucking Hell branded food and clothing.[6] The beer went on sale in
>>Europe, Asia and Australia in 2011.[1] In 2020, it was granted a United States
>>trademark.[8]"
>>
>>I expect the beer itself to be average, relying on the "novelty" of the name...
>
> I gather that there were some objections to the name ISP called Demon.

I remember demon.local briefly being visited by a few earnest USAnian
Christians telling us we should change our ISP if we didn't want to be
Doomed For All Eternity.

> There were one or two people at work who turned their noses up at my e-
> mule address. It would have been worse I suppose if they had discovered
> the Demon had managed to collar a number of telephone numbers that ended
> in 666. I wonder if Vodophone have released those telephone numbers or
> have they hung on to them. Certainly they refused to sell the name Demon
> so that the old Demon e-mail names could continue.

They wouldn't let me carry beulah.demon.co.uk over to a broadband
account, for sure. *shrug* their loss.

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In article <RpWdnVnPV-4TZYj_nZ2dnUU7-NnNnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>, Richard
Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> on Wed, 23 Feb 2022 at 03:04:14 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>Jonathan Harston said:
>> On Tuesday, 22 February 2022 at 11:27:55 UTC, Chris Elvidge wrote:
>>> Well obviously you should have moved to Penistone.
>>
>> Some years ago there was a news story on The Sheffield Star's website
>> abour proposed changes to Penistone Road. Everybody's comments
>> got blocked.
>> jgh
>
>Not very many years ago, the R4 news had a story about "Plymouth Ho"
>being thought to contain Rude Words. On checking it seems to have
>become 'Hoe' since I Were Young.

The town (in North Devon,) the play and the novels are (were) "Westward
Ho!" not to be confused with "Plymouth Hoe", which is on the south coast
of Devon.

Incidentally "ho" and "hoe" are alternative spellings for a lady who is
somewhat liberal with her favours.
>
>Also, please, an Honourable Mention for Pyvgurebr.
>

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On 23/02/2022 09:51, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
> In article <RpWdnVnPV-4TZYj_nZ2dnUU7-NnNnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>, Richard
> Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> on Wed, 23 Feb 2022 at 03:04:14 awoke
> Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>> Jonathan Harston said:
>>> On Tuesday, 22 February 2022 at 11:27:55 UTC, Chris Elvidge wrote:
>>>> Well obviously you should have moved to Penistone.
>>>
>>> Some years ago there was a news story on The Sheffield Star's website
>>> abour proposed changes to Penistone Road. Everybody's comments
>>> got blocked.
>>> jgh
>>
>> Not very many years ago, the R4 news had a story about "Plymouth Ho"
>> being thought to contain Rude Words. On checking it seems to have
>> become 'Hoe' since I Were Young.
>
> The town (in North Devon,) the play and the novels are (were) "Westward
> Ho!" not to be confused with "Plymouth Hoe", which is on the south coast
> of Devon.
>
> Incidentally "ho" and "hoe" are alternative spellings for a lady who is
> somewhat liberal with her favours.

I don't see that.

ISTR it is/was a contraction of whore (prostitute) favoured mainly by
the African-American community, but applied to (seemingly) all women.
Derogatory in the extreme.

"Liberal with her favours" does not mean she sells her "favours".

>>
>> Also, please, an Honourable Mention for Pyvgurebr.
>>
>

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Nicholas D. Richards said:
> In article <RpWdnVnPV-4TZYj_nZ2dnUU7-NnNnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>, Richard
>>
>>Not very many years ago, the R4 news had a story about "Plymouth Ho"
>>being thought to contain Rude Words. On checking it seems to have
>>become 'Hoe' since I Were Young.
>
> The town (in North Devon,) the play and the novels are (were) "Westward
> Ho!" not to be confused with "Plymouth Hoe", which is on the south coast
> of Devon.
>
> Incidentally "ho" and "hoe" are alternative spellings for a lady who is
> somewhat liberal with her favours.

What else could the story have been ?

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In article <ANSdnTMzk9CKzov_nZ2dnUU7-K2dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>, Richard
Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> on Wed, 23 Feb 2022 at 09:30:31 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>Nicholas D. Richards said:
>> In article <RpWdnVnPV-4TZYj_nZ2dnUU7-NnNnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>, Richard
>>>
>>>Not very many years ago, the R4 news had a story about "Plymouth Ho"
>>>being thought to contain Rude Words. On checking it seems to have
>>>become 'Hoe' since I Were Young.
>>
>> The town (in North Devon,) the play and the novels are (were) "Westward
>> Ho!" not to be confused with "Plymouth Hoe", which is on the south coast
>> of Devon.
>>
>> Incidentally "ho" and "hoe" are alternative spellings for a lady who is
>> somewhat liberal with her favours.
>
>What else could the story have been ?
>
About a gardening implement hailing from Plymouth? Myself I use a Dutch
Hoe.
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 14:15:23 +0000
Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> wrote:

> "Liberal with her favours" does not mean she sells her "favours".

Indeed it might simply mean being found wanton.

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