On 22/02/2022 17:27, wessie wrote:
> Eddie <eddie@deguello.org> wrote in news:j7khp4F4t0pU2@mid.individual.net:
>
>> On 22/02/2022 14:02, CT wrote:
>>> YTC#1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Still waiting for the housewarming party :-)
>>>
>>> If the dog continues the way it has been, there won't be much of a
>>> house left to warm soon!
>>
>> That's if Andy doesn't find a big sack and some bricks first.
>
> he calls it Pissy Feet in the other place. I'm not sure Adie reads his
> posts...

He calls it much worse than that in person.

--
Eddie eddie@deguello.org

On 22/02/2022 10:26, ChrisND @UKRM wrote:
>
> It was (and remains) beyond me why anyone would add yet another means of
> communication to the mix when they already lack the brain cells to be
> able to differentiate between a 'reply' and a 'reply all' using the
> media they have, FFS!

Two of the three bands I'm in have gravitated to WhatsApp - one band was
already using it when I joined, the other used WhatsApp and FB Messenger
and a bit of email and finally we finished up with WhatsApp, partly
because we were sending photos and so on to the rest of the band. The
third band, I just talk to the occupant of the other end of the settee.

A band I have recently parted company with used email - it was a
three-piece, the band leader would email the drummer and me separately
so it all finished up as email ping-pang-pong. Seemed daft to me.

On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 00:16:24 +0000, Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk>
wrote:

>Two of the three bands I'm in have gravitated to WhatsApp - one band was
>already using it when I joined, the other used WhatsApp and FB Messenger
>and a bit of email and finally we finished up with WhatsApp, partly
>because we were sending photos and so on to the rest of the band. The
>third band, I just talk to the occupant of the other end of the settee.
>
>A band I have recently parted company with used email - it was a
>three-piece, the band leader would email the drummer and me separately
>so it all finished up as email ping-pang-pong. Seemed daft to me.

<face palm>

Was he not aware of email distribution lists?
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neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 00:16:24 +0000, Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>Two of the three bands I'm in have gravitated to WhatsApp - one band was
>>already using it when I joined, the other used WhatsApp and FB Messenger
>>and a bit of email and finally we finished up with WhatsApp, partly
>>because we were sending photos and so on to the rest of the band. The
>>third band, I just talk to the occupant of the other end of the settee.
>>
>>A band I have recently parted company with used email - it was a
>>three-piece, the band leader would email the drummer and me separately
>>so it all finished up as email ping-pang-pong. Seemed daft to me.
>
> <face palm>
>
> Was he not aware of email distribution lists?

Or more to the point, was he not aware he can address an email to
more than one recipient, and that 'reply all' exists?

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On Thursday, 24 February 2022 at 14:57:24 UTC, Mark Olson wrote:
> Champ <ne...@champ.org.uk> wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 00:16:24 +0000, Mike Fleming <mi...@tauzero.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>Two of the three bands I'm in have gravitated to WhatsApp - one band was
> >>already using it when I joined, the other used WhatsApp and FB Messenger
> >>and a bit of email and finally we finished up with WhatsApp, partly
> >>because we were sending photos and so on to the rest of the band. The
> >>third band, I just talk to the occupant of the other end of the settee.
> >>
> >>A band I have recently parted company with used email - it was a
> >>three-piece, the band leader would email the drummer and me separately
> >>so it all finished up as email ping-pang-pong. Seemed daft to me.
> >
> > <face palm>
> >
> > Was he not aware of email distribution lists?
> Or more to the point, was he not aware he can address an email to
> more than one recipient, and that 'reply all' exists?
>

Even the local VMCC section have mastered that - plus a Whatsapp group.

On 24/02/2022 14:57, Mark Olson wrote:
> Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 00:16:24 +0000, Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Two of the three bands I'm in have gravitated to WhatsApp - one band was
>>> already using it when I joined, the other used WhatsApp and FB Messenger
>>> and a bit of email and finally we finished up with WhatsApp, partly
>>> because we were sending photos and so on to the rest of the band. The
>>> third band, I just talk to the occupant of the other end of the settee.
>>>
>>> A band I have recently parted company with used email - it was a
>>> three-piece, the band leader would email the drummer and me separately
>>> so it all finished up as email ping-pang-pong. Seemed daft to me.
>>
>> <face palm>
>>
>> Was he not aware of email distribution lists?
>
> Or more to the point, was he not aware he can address an email to
> more than one recipient, and that 'reply all' exists?

Exactly! People should not be allowed anything like whatsapp, or
whatever, until a basic understanding of how to communicate has been
learned.

In another place, I look after a mailing list with about 40 subscribers.
Despite warnings about not doing a 'me too' to the whole group when
discussing (eg) a booking, the difference between reply and reply all
has totally whooshed them. This really pi$$es some other people off -
who inevitably complain to me, not the perpetrator. Under some
circumstances this can cause a weird loop until the maximum message size
is reached and I get bounce notifications out my ears. Even changing
the default reply mode to only go to the originator has not solved this
for some people's default mailers.

So, I have now put the complainers onto a digest mode to only get a max
of one email per day.<G> To complement this I have put the most frequent
perpetrators into moderation. Let's see how they get round that!

"Not to be operated by fuckwits"* should be on the first page of the
internet :-)

Chris
* I'm not perfect or 'all knowing' - but I have been around since NASA
had 1234 as their password[1]
[1] That's not a joke [2]
[2] I hope it is not still the case - particularly today....

--
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Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
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On 24/02/2022 15:34, ChrisND @UKRM wrote:
> On 24/02/2022 14:57, Mark Olson wrote:
>> Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 00:16:24 +0000, Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Two of the three bands I'm in have gravitated to WhatsApp - one band
>>>> was
>>>> already using it when I joined, the other used WhatsApp and FB
>>>> Messenger
>>>> and a bit of email and finally we finished up with WhatsApp, partly
>>>> because we were sending photos and so on to the rest of the band. The
>>>> third band, I just talk to the occupant of the other end of the settee.
>>>>
>>>> A band I have recently parted company with used email - it was a
>>>> three-piece, the band leader would email the drummer and me separately
>>>> so it all finished up as email ping-pang-pong. Seemed daft to me.
>>>
>>> <face palm>
>>>
>>> Was he not aware of email distribution lists?
>>
>> Or more to the point, was he not aware he can address an email to
>> more than one recipient, and that 'reply all' exists?
>
> Exactly!  People should not be allowed anything like whatsapp, or
> whatever, until a basic understanding of how to communicate has been
> learned.
>
> In another place, I look after a mailing list with about 40 subscribers.
>  Despite warnings about not doing a 'me too' to the whole group when
> discussing (eg) a booking, the difference between reply and reply all
> has totally whooshed them. This really pi$$es some other people off -

Who then reply (all) with
"please remove me from this alias"

Brings back happy memories of email storms at Sun :-)

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On 24/02/2022 12:40, Champ wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 00:16:24 +0000, Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Two of the three bands I'm in have gravitated to WhatsApp - one band was
>> already using it when I joined, the other used WhatsApp and FB Messenger
>> and a bit of email and finally we finished up with WhatsApp, partly
>> because we were sending photos and so on to the rest of the band. The
>> third band, I just talk to the occupant of the other end of the settee.
>>
>> A band I have recently parted company with used email - it was a
>> three-piece, the band leader would email the drummer and me separately
>> so it all finished up as email ping-pang-pong. Seemed daft to me.
>
> <face palm>
>
> Was he not aware of email distribution lists?

With just three of us, Cc: wouldn't exactly have been onerous, and he
also used FB Messenger so that was another possible route. Dunno.

On Thursday, 24 February 2022 at 17:08:31 UTC, YTC#1 wrote:

> Brings back happy memories of email storms at Sun :-)

Years ago at Vodafone the marketing department started sending emails
to 'all' about upcoming television adverts. One of them talked about a 30
second segment. For some reason rather than 30s they used 30" (which I
guess is sort of correct for a different type of second).

One of the Engineers I worked with thought it would be funny to reply to
the marketeers that on a good day he struggled to get 6" so he thought it
was probably bragging and did not believe they could present 10" let alone
30".

Sadly he replied to all... including the CEO, or in those days Managing Director.

He got told off severely by his departmental head; I sat close to the Technical
Director's office and heard the department head being bawled out about it.

Still, it didn't stop him being employed because there was a shortage of
experienced engineers so they just had to grin and bear it.

On 24/02/2022 20:08, Stephen Packer wrote:
> On Thursday, 24 February 2022 at 17:08:31 UTC, YTC#1 wrote:
>
>> Brings back happy memories of email storms at Sun :-)
>
>
> Years ago at Vodafone the marketing department started sending emails
<snip>
>
> Sadly he replied to all... including the CEO, or in those days Managing Director.
>
> He got told off severely by his departmental head; I sat close to the Technical
> Director's office and heard the department head being bawled out about it.
>
> Still, it didn't stop him being employed because there was a shortage of
> experienced engineers so they just had to grin and bear it.

A career limiting moment :-)
I may have been close to that a cuple of times. Fortunately I kept it to
the UK and not any global aliases.

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On 24/02/2022 17:29, Mike Fleming wrote:
> On 24/02/2022 12:40, Champ wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 00:16:24 +0000, Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Two of the three bands I'm in have gravitated to WhatsApp - one band was
>>> already using it when I joined, the other used WhatsApp and FB Messenger
>>> and a bit of email and finally we finished up with WhatsApp, partly
>>> because we were sending photos and so on to the rest of the band. The
>>> third band, I just talk to the occupant of the other end of the settee.
>>>
>>> A band I have recently parted company with used email - it was a
>>> three-piece, the band leader would email the drummer and me separately
>>> so it all finished up as email ping-pang-pong. Seemed daft to me.
>>
>> <face palm>
>>
>> Was he not aware of email distribution lists?
>
> With just three of us, Cc: wouldn't exactly have been onerous, and he
> also used FB Messenger so that was another possible route. Dunno.

Was he the bass player?

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> On 24/02/2022 15:34, ChrisND @UKRM wrote:

>> In another place, I look after a mailing list with about 40 subscribers.
>>  Despite warnings about not doing a 'me too' to the whole group when
>> discussing (eg) a booking, the difference between reply and reply all
>> has totally whooshed them. This really pi$$es some other people off -
>
> Who then reply (all) with
> "please remove me from this alias"
>
> Brings back happy memories of email storms at Sun :-)

It's really something when there's a mass email to an entire division
and the hard-of-thinking get busy contributing to the inevitable
reply-all email storm.

Honestly, I think people doing a reply-all of "PLEASE STOP REPLYING
TO ALL!!"[1] or "How do I get off this list?" and variations on that
theme, in a business environment, should be immediately fired for
gross incompetence.

[1] Or for using all caps and multiple exclamation points, as good
a reason as any[2].
[2] Any use of Comic Sans in the business environment should also be
grounds for immediate termination.

--
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On 24/02/2022 21:23, YTC#1 wrote:
>
>
> On 24/02/2022 17:29, Mike Fleming wrote:
>> On 24/02/2022 12:40, Champ wrote:
>>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 00:16:24 +0000, Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A band I have recently parted company with used email - it was a
>>>> three-piece, the band leader would email the drummer and me separately
>>>> so it all finished up as email ping-pang-pong. Seemed daft to me.
>>>
>>> <face palm>
>>>
>>> Was he not aware of email distribution lists?
>>
>> With just three of us, Cc: wouldn't exactly have been onerous, and he
>> also used FB Messenger so that was another possible route. Dunno.
>
> Was he the bass player?

No, I suspect that would be Mike.

Also, the bass player is usually the clever one.

--
Eddie eddie@deguello.org

On 24/02/2022 14:57, Mark Olson wrote:
> Or more to the point, was he not aware he can address an email to
> more than one recipient, and that 'reply all' exists?

It's the people who don't realise there is any option /other/ than
reply-all that are the problem.

--
Bruce Horrocks
FJR1300AS

On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 21:23:00 +0000, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 24/02/2022 17:29, Mike Fleming wrote:
>> On 24/02/2022 12:40, Champ wrote:
>>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 00:16:24 +0000, Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk>
>>> wrote:

>>>> A band I have recently parted company with used email - it was a
>>>> three-piece, the band leader would email the drummer and me separately
>>>> so it all finished up as email ping-pang-pong. Seemed daft to me.

>>> <face palm>

>>> Was he not aware of email distribution lists?
>> With just three of us, Cc: wouldn't exactly have been onerous, and he
>> also used FB Messenger so that was another possible route. Dunno.

>Was he the bass player?

NAHAY? Mike is obviously the bass player

And the proper joke would have been "Was he the drummer?"
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On 24/02/2022 22:16, Mark Olson wrote:
> YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 24/02/2022 15:34, ChrisND @UKRM wrote:
>
>>> In another place, I look after a mailing list with about 40 subscribers.
>>>  Despite warnings about not doing a 'me too' to the whole group when
>>> discussing (eg) a booking, the difference between reply and reply all
>>> has totally whooshed them. This really pi$$es some other people off -
>>
>> Who then reply (all) with
>> "please remove me from this alias"
>>
>> Brings back happy memories of email storms at Sun :-)
>
> It's really something when there's a mass email to an entire division
> and the hard-of-thinking get busy contributing to the inevitable
> reply-all email storm.
>
> Honestly, I think people doing a reply-all of "PLEASE STOP REPLYING
> TO ALL!!"[1] or "How do I get off this list?" and variations on that
Yep, there was always one :-)

Followed by the hint that it was something the individual had control
off, we could always remove ourselves via a easy to use web page.

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On 25/02/2022 09:05, Champ wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 21:23:00 +0000, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> On 24/02/2022 17:29, Mike Fleming wrote:
>>> On 24/02/2022 12:40, Champ wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 00:16:24 +0000, Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>
>>>>> A band I have recently parted company with used email - it was a
>>>>> three-piece, the band leader would email the drummer and me separately
>>>>> so it all finished up as email ping-pang-pong. Seemed daft to me.
>
>>>> <face palm>
>
>>>> Was he not aware of email distribution lists?
>
>>> With just three of us, Cc: wouldn't exactly have been onerous, and he
>>> also used FB Messenger so that was another possible route. Dunno.
>
>> Was he the bass player?
>
> NAHAY? Mike is obviously the bass player
>
> And the proper joke would have been "Was he the drummer?"

Hmm, maybe I was being too clever?

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On 24/02/2022 23:36, Eddie wrote:
>On 24/02/2022 21:23, YTC#1 wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 24/02/2022 17:29, Mike Fleming wrote:
>>> On 24/02/2022 12:40, Champ wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 00:16:24 +0000, Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A band I have recently parted company with used email - it was a
>>>>> three-piece, the band leader would email the drummer and me separately
>>>>> so it all finished up as email ping-pang-pong. Seemed daft to me.
>>>>
>>>> <face palm>
>>>>
>>>> Was he not aware of email distribution lists?
>>>
>>> With just three of us, Cc: wouldn't exactly have been onerous, and he
>>> also used FB Messenger so that was another possible route. Dunno.
>>
>> Was he the bass player?
>
>No, I suspect that would be Mike.
>
>Also, the bass player is usually the clever one.

Yes, and i have certificates to prove it!
Chris

--
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On 25/02/2022 09:05, Champ wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 21:23:00 +0000, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>On 24/02/2022 17:29, Mike Fleming wrote:
>>> On 24/02/2022 12:40, Champ wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 00:16:24 +0000, Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>
>>>>> A band I have recently parted company with used email - it was a
>>>>> three-piece, the band leader would email the drummer and me separately
>>>>> so it all finished up as email ping-pang-pong. Seemed daft to me.
>
>>>> <face palm>
>
>>>> Was he not aware of email distribution lists?
>
>>> With just three of us, Cc: wouldn't exactly have been onerous, and he
>>> also used FB Messenger so that was another possible route. Dunno.
>
>>Was he the bass player?
>
>NAHAY? Mike is obviously the bass player
>
>And the proper joke would have been "Was he the drummer?"

:-)

--
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Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote in
news:qs6h1hlnf5vv1qmke8ef7d5bl5o51tfufb@4ax.com:

> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 21:23:00 +0000, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>On 24/02/2022 17:29, Mike Fleming wrote:
>>> On 24/02/2022 12:40, Champ wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 00:16:24 +0000, Mike Fleming
>>>> <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>>> A band I have recently parted company with used email - it was a
>>>>> three-piece, the band leader would email the drummer and me
>>>>> separately so it all finished up as email ping-pang-pong. Seemed
>>>>> daft to me.
>
>>>> <face palm>
>
>>>> Was he not aware of email distribution lists?
>
>>> With just three of us, Cc: wouldn't exactly have been onerous, and
>>> he also used FB Messenger so that was another possible route. Dunno.
>
>>Was he the bass player?
>
> NAHAY? Mike is obviously the bass player
>
> And the proper joke would have been "Was he the drummer?"

apart from it would not make sense in the context of

"the band leader would email the drummer and me"

Champ wrote:
>> Was he the bass player?
>
> NAHAY? Mike is obviously the bass player
>
> And the proper joke would have been "Was he the drummer?"

"How do you know when a drummer is at your door?
He knocks three times then comes in late."
- Stolen from Mark Kermode.

On Friday, 18 February 2022 at 08:44:08 UTC, Eddie wrote:
> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/feb/18/you-be-the-judge-should-my-husband-keep-his-motorbike-in-the-house
>
> Why is there no voting option for 'the bikes should be inside and the
> paperweight collection should be in the bin'?

I was of the view that the bloke was being the bellend last week, but didn't really have strong feelings about it.

This week's though, about the butter? Finally, a hill I'm prepared to die on.

On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 09:49:16 +0000, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>
>On 25/02/2022 09:05, Champ wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 21:23:00 +0000, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>> Was he the bass player?
>>
>> NAHAY? Mike is obviously the bass player
>>
>> And the proper joke would have been "Was he the drummer?"
>
>Hmm, maybe I was being too clever?

Bwaahaahaahaa!

Funniest thing I've read all week.

--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

ogden wrote:
> On Friday, 18 February 2022 at 08:44:08 UTC, Eddie wrote:
>> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/feb/18/you-be-the-judge-should-my-husband-keep-his-motorbike-in-the-house
>>
>> Why is there no voting option for 'the bikes should be inside and the
>> paperweight collection should be in the bin'?
>
> I was of the view that the bloke was being the bellend last week, but didn't really have strong feelings about it.
>
> This week's though, about the butter? Finally, a hill I'm prepared to die on.

Scones and crumpets are 'posh' ?

Sqirrel99 <secret.sqirrel99@gmail.com> wrote:
> Champ wrote:
>>> Was he the bass player?
>>
>> NAHAY? Mike is obviously the bass player
>>
>> And the proper joke would have been "Was he the drummer?"
>
>
> "How do you know when a drummer is at your door?
> He knocks three times then comes in late."
> - Stolen from Mark Kermode.

Drummer, noun.

1. Someone who likes to hang around with musicians.

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