On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 2:59:03 AM, sms wrote:

> Alas, most flagship new Android phones have done away with the MicroSD
> card slot, and that's now extending to mid-range phones as well.

I wouldn't by any phone without the sd card but I don't use the 3.5 mm jack
on my phone all that often - just when I need to listen long to music.

Since you keep mentioning 'flagship' - may I ask what ADVANTAGE there is to
a phone that lacks either the card or the jack?

If I had two phones, side by side, and the only difference was one lacked
these two things and the other had both - how is it be better to not have
them?

Care that I said they're the same IP rating and the same everything else.
The only difference is one lacks the two features.

How is lacking these two common capabilities any better than having them?

On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 14:20:17 +1100, Thomas <canope234@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 2:59:03 AM, sms wrote:
>
>> Alas, most flagship new Android phones have done away with the MicroSD
>> card slot, and that's now extending to mid-range phones as well.
>
> I wouldn't by any phone without the sd card

Then you wont be able to have any of the top of the line phones
except just one and it isnt much of a top of the line phone.

but I don't use the 3.5 mm
> jack
> on my phone all that often - just when I need to listen long to music.
>
> Since you keep mentioning 'flagship' - may I ask what ADVANTAGE there is
> to
> a phone that lacks either the card or the jack?

You are free to use the vastly more useful cloud, or even get
the convenience of being able to move the photos to your
other devices by wifi or even cable and even the cable is
much more convenient than farting around with a card.

And bluetooth is much more convenient than farting around
with a physical cable to the jack.

> If I had two phones, side by side, and the only difference was one lacked
> these two things and the other had both - how is it be better to not have
> them?

Because you can have a top of the line phone instead of a far less capable
phone. And if you insist on using an sd card or jack you are free to add
one
to a phone which doesnt have an sd card slot or a jack too.

> Care that I said they're the same IP rating

They aren't.

> and the same everything else.

Ditto with memory.

> The only difference is one lacks the two features.

Fantasy.

> How is lacking these two common capabilities any better than having them?

You get to have a much better phone capability wise.

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> everyone knows it's best to allow disinformation to fester and
> propagate unchallenged.

Are you really challenging what you call "disinformation" stating that zero
percent of the latest iPhones have either internal sd slots or 3.5mm jacks?

Or it is you're upset that Android owners get great choices & you don't?
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On 2023-01-21, Bugsy <bugsy@zimage.comBUGSY> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> everyone knows it's best to allow disinformation to fester and
>> propagate unchallenged.
>
> Are you really challenging what you call "disinformation" stating that
> zero percent of the latest iPhones have either internal sd slots or
> 3.5mm jacks?
>
> Or it is you're upset that Android owners get great choices & you
> don't?

Nope, the disinformation is the claim that either of those are important
to iPhone users - and they clearly aren't. : ) And the fact that you dip
shits spend literal hours arguing about this shows you have no life
outside of trolling, which is frankly pathetic.

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On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 12:32:09 -0700, AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:

>On 1/20/2023 12:03 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
>
>> I use Forte Agent 6.0 Can you tell me how to design a filter
>> properly so that nym-shifting won't help trolls?
>
>Use a mental filter.

No.

>If you dislike a poster just don't open his posts.
>Easy peasy.

Maybe easy peasy for you, but that's not for me. It takes considerably
longer to have to see and bypass posts. I kill-file trolls

>Personally I read them all. Cheap entertainment... ;)

Each to his own. It's not entertainment for me.

On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 08:49:14 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 06:03:21 +1100, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 10:34:10 -0800, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/20/2023 8:52 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2023-01-20 06:49, for.sms wrote:
>>>>> On 19 Jan 2023, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote :
>>>>>> I looked at GSM Arena for current models (2022). Here are the
>>>>>> results in
>>>>>> a Google Sheet Spreadsheet:
>>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y8ktiVvsNGyNhQMP9EgBGayZ_dDvO33jFRqw_9uWGcg/>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please don't act stupid, Steve.
>>>>> It's unbecoming of an adult.
>>>>
>>>> Kind of like making nym after nym to escape killfiles, right, Arlen?
>>>
>>> If you design filters properly, nym-shifting doesn't help him.
>>
>> I use Forte Agent 6.0 Can you tell me how to design a filter properly
>> so that nym-shifting won't help trolls?
>
>In the ultimate it isnt even possible because the best of the trolls
>can fake anything in the header and no filter can do much about
>the style used in the body of the post.

Yes, I know. My question was mean to be tongue-in-cheek.

On 2023-01-20 16:25, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2023-01-20, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>> Am 20.01.23 um 21:30 schrieb nospam:
>>> In article <tqes0n$251mj$15@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> If everyone who keeps leaping like a starving trout at the troll
>>>>>> bait would go on a diet, then these trolls would, in time, shuffle
>>>>>> on...
>>>>>
>>>>> Nah - they'd still be here talking to themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Correct.
>>>>
>>>> The only way to deal with trolls is to take what amusement you can
>>>> from them.
>>>
>>> also to refute the deliberate disinformation they spew.
>>
>> No. That keeps these flame war alive. You should know better.
>
> Yes, yes, everyone knows it's best to allow disinformation to fester and
> propagate unchallenged. This is certainly The Way™. #IAmVerySmart

Like troll turds in usenet will infect the world.

Screen doors on submarines are more effective.

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committee

Ken Blake wrote:

> Each to his own. It's not entertainment for me.

*Proof below Ken Blake posts on Usenet merely for his own amusement*

I've known of this Ken Blake piece of shit for quite a long time, and, as I
study all you strange abnormally low-IQ uneducated people, I keep track of
what he does, and what he says he does (Jewish, retired, 85 years, Arizona,
chess player, etc.).

I've always thought Ken Blake was on Usenet to troll for his amusement.
And yet, here is this same Ken Blake saying everyone else is the troll.

Fancy that.
*One of the most egregious trolls calling everyone else, a troll.*

(and yes, I know exactly what you uneducated ikooks will respond to that
since you're all as predictable as kindergarten kids due to your low IQ)

What's the proof Ken Blake is a troll is the answer to this easy question:

*Name a _single_ thread of on-topic technical value Ken Blake ever authored.*
*Name Just One*

Since that standard is too difficult for the Ken Blake troll to meet...

*Name a _single_ post of on-topic technical value emanating from Ken Blake.*
*Name Just One*

HINT: You can't.

Ken Blake has never added even one iota of on-topic technical value.
Ever.

Prove me wrong.
*Find a thread of on-topic technical value that Ken Blake has authored*

The fact nobody can find any on-topic technical value (defined as the topic
of the thread itself) from Ken Blake in decades, tells who is the troll.

*The troll is Ken Blake.*

On 1/21/2023 7:38 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 12:32:09 -0700, AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:

>> If you dislike a poster just don't open his posts. Easy peasy.

> Maybe easy peasy for you, but that's not for me. It takes
> considerably longer to have to see and bypass posts.

When I used to use Forte Agent 1.8 it was easy. There was a list of
posts and authors on the left. When I clicked on each one down the page
it opened on the right. No click, no open. Perhaps your newer version is
now a bit more complicated?

> I kill-file trolls

Doesn't work. Stuff always shows back up in nym changes and quotes.

When I see someone broadcast that he's plonking someone I chuckle. The
best analogy I can think of is that he's giving his nemesis the finger.
But of course the nemesis just grins back having gotten the attention he
desired.

>> Personally I read them all. Cheap entertainment... ;)

> Each to his own. It's not entertainment for me.

You're taking all this too seriously. Bad for your blood pressure. Sit
back and relax. Pretend you're watching a war movie as the shots go back
and forth... ;)

On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 10:36:17 -0700, AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:

>On 1/21/2023 7:38 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 12:32:09 -0700, AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
>
>>> If you dislike a poster just don't open his posts. Easy peasy.
>
>> Maybe easy peasy for you, but that's not for me. It takes
>> considerably longer to have to see and bypass posts.
>
>When I used to use Forte Agent 1.8 it was easy. There was a list of
>posts and authors on the left. When I clicked on each one down the page
>it opened on the right. No click, no open. Perhaps your newer version is
>now a bit more complicated?

It's not a matter of versions. It's a matter of how we work. I don't
want to take the time to look at each entry on the list and decide
whether to open it. Yes, it takes a tiny amount of time to do that,
but add together all those tiny amounts and it can become significant.
I simply go from message to message by hitting the space bar, because
that works as the fastest way for me.

>> I kill-file trolls
>
>Doesn't work. Stuff always shows back up in nym changes and quotes.

It's far from perfect for the reasons you mention, but it *does* work;
it helps me significantly. A nym-shift just means an added killfile
entry, and that takes just a second or two. And I usually also
killfile anybody who frequently quotes trolls.

>When I see someone broadcast that he's plonking someone I chuckle. The
>best analogy I can think of is that he's giving his nemesis the finger.
>But of course the nemesis just grins back having gotten the attention he
>desired.
>
>>> Personally I read them all. Cheap entertainment... ;)
>
>> Each to his own. It's not entertainment for me.
>
>You're taking all this too seriously. Bad for your blood pressure.

It's got nothing to do with taking it seriously or my blood pressure.
It has to do with reducing the time I spend on Usenet.

>Sit
>back and relax. Pretend you're watching a war movie as the shots go back
>and forth... ;)

No thanks.

On 1/21/2023 10:47 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 10:36:17 -0700, AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:

>> You're taking all this too seriously. Bad for your blood pressure.

> It's got nothing to do with taking it seriously or my blood
> pressure. It has to do with reducing the time I spend on Usenet.

That's easy. It's called an off switch. Or perhaps just
monitor fewer groups. I generally monitor only 3 but with
others crossposting it does sometimes multiply...

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

>>> everyone knows it's best to allow disinformation to fester and
>>> propagate unchallenged.
>>
>> Are you really challenging what you call "disinformation" stating that
>> zero percent of the latest iPhones have either internal sd slots or
>> 3.5mm jacks?
>>
>> Or it is you're upset that Android owners get great choices & you
>> don't?
>
> Nope, the disinformation is the claim that either of those are important
> to iPhone users - and they clearly aren't. : ) And the fact that you dip
> shits spend literal hours arguing about this shows you have no life
> outside of trolling, which is frankly pathetic.

It's not disinformation if the only reason you object to the information is
that you are upset that Android owners have inexpensive card and headset
choices that iPhone users aren't given by Apple the option of choosing.

But I agree with you that iPhone owners don't want to have that choice.
Otherwise, they wouldn't be iPhone owners.
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On 2023-01-21 06:38, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 12:32:09 -0700, AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/20/2023 12:03 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
>>
>>> I use Forte Agent 6.0 Can you tell me how to design a filter
>>> properly so that nym-shifting won't help trolls?
>>
>> Use a mental filter.
>
> No.
>
>
>> If you dislike a poster just don't open his posts.
>> Easy peasy.
>
> Maybe easy peasy for you, but that's not for me. It takes considerably
> longer to have to see and bypass posts. I kill-file trolls
>

Sorry, but that's complete bullshit.

On 2023-01-21 09:30, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Ken Blake wrote:
>
>> Each to his own. It's not entertainment for me.
>
> *Proof below Ken Blake posts on Usenet merely for his own amusement*

Arlen, Arlen, Arlen....

....are people not paying enough attention to YOU?

AWWWWWWWWWW.

On 2023-01-21 10:14, Bugsy wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>>> everyone knows it's best to allow disinformation to fester and
>>>> propagate unchallenged.
>>>
>>> Are you really challenging what you call "disinformation" stating that
>>> zero percent of the latest iPhones have either internal sd slots or
>>> 3.5mm jacks?
>>>
>>> Or it is you're upset that Android owners get great choices & you
>>> don't?
>>
>> Nope, the disinformation is the claim that either of those are important
>> to iPhone users - and they clearly aren't. : ) And the fact that you dip
>> shits spend literal hours arguing about this shows you have no life
>> outside of trolling, which is frankly pathetic.
>
> It's not disinformation if the only reason you object to the information is
> that you are upset that Android owners have inexpensive card and headset
> choices that iPhone users aren't given by Apple the option of choosing.

But that's just a wildass guess.

>
> But I agree with you that iPhone owners don't want to have that choice.
> Otherwise, they wouldn't be iPhone owners.

Exactly.

iPhone sales are fantastic.

Clearly there are lots of people for whom the loss of a 3.5mm jack
and/or an SD card slot is just not a big deal.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 05:14:32 +1100, Bugsy <bugsy@zimage.combugsy> wrote:

> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>>> everyone knows it's best to allow disinformation to fester and
>>>> propagate unchallenged.
>>>
>>> Are you really challenging what you call "disinformation" stating that
>>> zero percent of the latest iPhones have either internal sd slots or
>>> 3.5mm jacks?
>>>
>>> Or it is you're upset that Android owners get great choices & you
>>> don't?
>>
>> Nope, the disinformation is the claim that either of those are important
>> to iPhone users - and they clearly aren't. : ) And the fact that you dip
>> shits spend literal hours arguing about this shows you have no life
>> outside of trolling, which is frankly pathetic.
>
> It's not disinformation if the only reason you object to the information
> is
> that you are upset that Android owners have inexpensive card and headset
> choices that iPhone users aren't given by Apple the option of choosing.
>
> But I agree with you that iPhone owners don't want to have that choice.

Because they realise that both options are no use to them.

> Otherwise, they wouldn't be iPhone owners.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 05:58:11 +1100, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> On 2023-01-21 06:38, Ken Blake wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 12:32:09 -0700, AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/20/2023 12:03 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>
>>>> I use Forte Agent 6.0 Can you tell me how to design a filter
>>>> properly so that nym-shifting won't help trolls?
>>>
>>> Use a mental filter.
>> No.
>>
>>> If you dislike a poster just don't open his posts.
>>> Easy peasy.
>> Maybe easy peasy for you, but that's not for me. It takes considerably
>> longer to have to see and bypass posts. I kill-file trolls
>>
>
> Sorry, but that's complete bullshit.

Not if you use the news client like he does, hits the space bar
to step thru the posts he wants to read.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 06:01:06 +1100, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> On 2023-01-21 10:14, Bugsy wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> everyone knows it's best to allow disinformation to fester and
>>>>> propagate unchallenged.
>>>>
>>>> Are you really challenging what you call "disinformation" stating that
>>>> zero percent of the latest iPhones have either internal sd slots or
>>>> 3.5mm jacks?
>>>>
>>>> Or it is you're upset that Android owners get great choices & you
>>>> don't?
>>>
>>> Nope, the disinformation is the claim that either of those are
>>> important
>>> to iPhone users - and they clearly aren't. : ) And the fact that you
>>> dip
>>> shits spend literal hours arguing about this shows you have no life
>>> outside of trolling, which is frankly pathetic.
>> It's not disinformation if the only reason you object to the
>> information is
>> that you are upset that Android owners have inexpensive card and headset
>> choices that iPhone users aren't given by Apple the option of choosing.
>
> But that's just a wildass guess.
>
>> But I agree with you that iPhone owners don't want to have that choice.
>> Otherwise, they wouldn't be iPhone owners.
>
> Exactly.
>
> iPhone sales are fantastic.
>
> Clearly there are lots of people for whom the loss of a 3.5mm jack
> and/or an SD card slot is just not a big deal.

In fact no consideration at all for most of them.

On 2023-01-21 11:32, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 05:58:11 +1100, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2023-01-21 06:38, Ken Blake wrote:
>>> On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 12:32:09 -0700, AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/20/2023 12:03 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I use Forte Agent 6.0 Can you tell me how to design a filter
>>>>> properly so that nym-shifting won't help trolls?
>>>>
>>>> Use a mental filter.
>>>  No.
>>>
>>>> If you dislike a poster just don't open his posts.
>>>> Easy peasy.
>>>  Maybe easy peasy for you, but that's not for me. It takes considerably
>>> longer to have to see and bypass posts. I kill-file trolls
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, but that's complete bullshit.
>
> Not if you use the news client like he does, hits the space bar
> to step thru the posts he wants to read.

Nope. It's still bullshit.

It is the work of less than a moment to hit "Next" if you read the name
of a sender or see a subject you don't like.

On 1/21/23 2:02 AM, Bugsy wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> everyone knows it's best to allow disinformation to fester and
>> propagate unchallenged.
>
> Are you really challenging what you call "disinformation" stating that zero
> percent of the latest iPhones have either internal sd slots or 3.5mm jacks?
>
> Or it is you're upset that Android owners get great choices & you don't?

....except that the Android OS sucks, in part due to lack of updating on
some phone and tablet models I've owned several that weren't and
switched to Apple products-- the nasty Apple Tax notwithstanding...

--
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On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 06:35:13 +1100, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> On 2023-01-21 11:32, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 05:58:11 +1100, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2023-01-21 06:38, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 12:32:09 -0700, AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/20/2023 12:03 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I use Forte Agent 6.0 Can you tell me how to design a filter
>>>>>> properly so that nym-shifting won't help trolls?
>>>>>
>>>>> Use a mental filter.
>>>> No.
>>>>
>>>>> If you dislike a poster just don't open his posts.
>>>>> Easy peasy.
>>>> Maybe easy peasy for you, but that's not for me. It takes
>>>> considerably
>>>> longer to have to see and bypass posts. I kill-file trolls
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, but that's complete bullshit.
>> Not if you use the news client like he does, hits the space bar
>> to step thru the posts he wants to read.
>
> Nope. It's still bullshit.

Nope.

> It is the work of less than a moment to hit "Next" if you read the name
> of a sender or see a subject you don't like.

He doesnt do that, he just hits space to step thru the posts that
don't get kill filed. That's much quicker than reading the poster
name and not clicking on the ones you decide are trolls.

On 2023-01-21 12:13, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 06:35:13 +1100, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2023-01-21 11:32, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 05:58:11 +1100, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2023-01-21 06:38, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 12:32:09 -0700, AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/20/2023 12:03 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I use Forte Agent 6.0 Can you tell me how to design a filter
>>>>>>> properly so that nym-shifting won't help trolls?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Use a mental filter.
>>>>>  No.
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you dislike a poster just don't open his posts.
>>>>>> Easy peasy.
>>>>>  Maybe easy peasy for you, but that's not for me. It takes
>>>>> considerably
>>>>> longer to have to see and bypass posts. I kill-file trolls
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, but that's complete bullshit.
>>>  Not if you use the news client like he does, hits the space bar
>>> to step thru the posts he wants to read.
>>
>> Nope. It's still bullshit.
>
> Nope.
>
>> It is the work of less than a moment to hit "Next" if you read the
>> name of a sender or see a subject you don't like.
>
> He doesnt do that, he just hits space to step thru the posts that
> don't get kill filed. That's much quicker than reading the poster
> name and not clicking on the ones you decide are trolls.

No, it objectively is not.

I'm using Thunderbird and there is a shortcut on the keyboard not more
than 1.25" away from the spacebar which allows you to step through a
post screen by screen to the bottom before it moves you to the next post:

"F"

It's ctrl-N in Forte Agent.

That is no slower than the space bar.

On 2023-01-21, Bugsy <bugsy@zimage.comBUGSY> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>>> everyone knows it's best to allow disinformation to fester and
>>>> propagate unchallenged.
>>>
>>> Are you really challenging what you call "disinformation" stating
>>> that zero percent of the latest iPhones have either internal sd
>>> slots or 3.5mm jacks?
>>>
>>> Or it is you're upset that Android owners get great choices & you
>>> don't?
>>
>> Nope, the disinformation is the claim that either of those are
>> important to iPhone users - and they clearly aren't. : ) And the fact
>> that you dip shits spend literal hours arguing about this shows you
>> have no life outside of trolling, which is frankly pathetic.
>
> It's not disinformation

It is.

> the only reason you object to the information is that you are upset

Nope.

> But I agree with you

Great. Bye then.

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On 2023-01-21, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 06:01:06 +1100, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-01-21 10:14, Bugsy wrote:
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> everyone knows it's best to allow disinformation to fester and
>>>>>> propagate unchallenged.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you really challenging what you call "disinformation" stating
>>>>> that zero percent of the latest iPhones have either internal sd
>>>>> slots or 3.5mm jacks?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or it is you're upset that Android owners get great choices & you
>>>>> don't?
>>>>
>>>> Nope, the disinformation is the claim that either of those are
>>>> important to iPhone users - and they clearly aren't. : ) And the
>>>> fact that you dip shits spend literal hours arguing about this
>>>> shows you have no life outside of trolling, which is frankly
>>>> pathetic.
>>>
>>> It's not disinformation if the only reason you object to the
>>> information is that you are upset that Android owners have
>>> inexpensive card and headset choices that iPhone users aren't given
>>> by Apple the option of choosing.
>>
>> But that's just a wildass guess.

It's pure bullshit from a trollboi.

>>> But I agree with you that iPhone owners don't want to have that
>>> choice. Otherwise, they wouldn't be iPhone owners.
>>
>> Exactly.
>>
>> iPhone sales are fantastic.
>>
>> Clearly there are lots of people for whom the loss of a 3.5mm jack
>> and/or an SD card slot is just not a big deal.
>
> In fact no consideration at all for most of them.

Yup. The only issue here is the one the trollboi gang is *desperately*
trying to manufacture out of thin air.

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On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 07:21:25 +1100, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> On 2023-01-21 12:13, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 06:35:13 +1100, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2023-01-21 11:32, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 05:58:11 +1100, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2023-01-21 06:38, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 12:32:09 -0700, AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/20/2023 12:03 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I use Forte Agent 6.0 Can you tell me how to design a filter
>>>>>>>> properly so that nym-shifting won't help trolls?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Use a mental filter.
>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you dislike a poster just don't open his posts.
>>>>>>> Easy peasy.
>>>>>> Maybe easy peasy for you, but that's not for me. It takes
>>>>>> considerably
>>>>>> longer to have to see and bypass posts. I kill-file trolls
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, but that's complete bullshit.
>>>> Not if you use the news client like he does, hits the space bar
>>>> to step thru the posts he wants to read.
>>>
>>> Nope. It's still bullshit.
>> Nope.
>>
>>> It is the work of less than a moment to hit "Next" if you read the
>>> name of a sender or see a subject you don't like.
>> He doesnt do that, he just hits space to step thru the posts that
>> don't get kill filed. That's much quicker than reading the poster
>> name and not clicking on the ones you decide are trolls.

> No, it objectively is not.

We'll see...

> I'm using Thunderbird

Ken isnt.

> and there is a shortcut on the keyboard not more than 1.25" away from
> the spacebar which allows you to step through a post screen by screen to
> the bottom before it moves you to the next post:

> "F"

Nothing to do with your previous claim that it is quicker
to look at the sender and decide to not read that post.

> It's ctrl-N in Forte Agent.

> That is no slower than the space bar.

But having to look at the sender and decide whether to skip that
post will always take longer than not bothering to read who the
sender is and just tap on the spacebar. And it takes more effort
with two finger than just leave you thumb on the space bar.

And with the worst of the trolls like peeler who posts a series of
trolls in a row almost all the time, even using ctrl-N repeatedly
for all if its posts is much more effort than having him in the kill
file and just using the space bar to step between non troll posts.