bruce bowser wrote:
....
> OK now I'm confused. People on 60's and 70's TV shows always rave about lamb stew with lentils. So, where'd this talk about cabbage come in?

i've never made my lamb stew with lentils (i do like
lentils but i don't put them in lamb stew). the reason
being that to me beans are a protein source so it is rare
that i would combine them with meat unless i'm really
trying to stretch it.

lamb has so much flavor going for it that to put an
entire head of chopped cabbage in is quite likely for me.
of course along with other things like onions, carrots,
potatoes, garlic and some tomato chunks (but not too
much because i don't think of this as a tomato dish at
all so just enough to give it some extra bump in flavor
but not so much as to where you can pick it out). basil
and a few other spices, but i tend to go light on mints.

songbird

songbird wrote:

> Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> ...
> > I grew up eating lamb chops, probably once a week. Then I got
> > married. My wife hates lamb. I may have eaten lamb four or five
> > times in the fifty years since, in restaurants. I "think" I bought
> > some lamb chops when she was visiting relatives once.
> > I don't like cooking two dishes for two people.
>
> same here, but i do sometimes make the simpler version
> first and then divide it so i can spice up one portion
> for me.
>
> i haven't made my own version of lamb stew in many
> years because it has lamb and cabbage (which Mom won't
> eat), but that's also because lamb is rediculously
> expensive but also because since i learned how to make
> some Thai curries i'd much rather eat those (for about
> 1/3rd the price).
>
>
> songbird

Don and I settled on a curry gravy for lamb as our favorite. There was
a brief time when we could get lamb fair cheaply but we left for Japan
only 2-3 months later.

One of the problems is the USA calls it all 'lamb' but we generally
don't get the age classification match of other countrys for it. This
leaves many of us at a loss on finding the right way to make it as they
are not the same. It's one of the things you have to go outside the
USA and into a grocery store to see it. It's really a case of
innacurate listings at the store as the majority of what we sell ranges
young to mutton as 'prime' and full on mutton through 'choice'. The
stores just list it all as 'lamb' which elsewhere is no older than 1
year old.

Yes, we do have a 'stadard' but stores do not follow it.

cshenk wrote:
....
> Yes, we do have a 'stadard' but stores do not follow it.

sadly the USoA is rather poorly done in terms of
accuracy, nutrition or a lot of basic research when
it comes down to food - mainly because it is mostly
funded and run by the food industry and not by
scientists and a wider general public science
organisation.

songbird

On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 9:46:24 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> ... for masturbation!
>
> John Kuthe...
Bookmarked lol. That would be like eating the same thing every day.

On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 9:42:34 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 9:25:28 AM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 8:53:42 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 8:46:24 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> > > > ... for masturbation!
> > > >
> > > Did you have trick-or-treaters last night? I'm sure that
> > > proximity to children would make you super horny.
> > > >
> > Aren't "people" like John, who are on the Bel Nor Sex Offender List, barred from giving candy to kiddies on Halloween...???
> >
> 1980 was many years ago. The statute of limitations for
> fucking a fourteen year old when you are twenty ran out a
> long time ago. You don't get on the sex offender registry
> merely by being a known pedophile. You have to get
> convicted.
> > --
> > GM
>
> --Bryan

I have never been convicted of anything!

John Kuthe, Retired

John Kuthe wrote:

> On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 9:42:34 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 9:25:28 AM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 8:53:42 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 8:46:24 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> > > > > ... for masturbation!
> > > > >
> > > > Did you have trick-or-treaters last night? I'm sure that
> > > > proximity to children would make you super horny.
> > > > >
> > > Aren't "people" like John, who are on the Bel Nor Sex Offender List, barred from giving candy to kiddies on Halloween...???
> > >
> > 1980 was many years ago. The statute of limitations for
> > fucking a fourteen year old when you are twenty ran out a
> > long time ago. You don't get on the sex offender registry
> > merely by being a known pedophile. You have to get
> > convicted.
> > > --
> > > GM
> >
> > --Bryan
> I have never been convicted of anything!

But ewe ARE "convicted" and also adjudged GUILTY of LAZINESS and STOOPIDITY.....!!!

LOLZ...!!!

😎

BOO...!!! 🎃🎃🎃🎃👻🦇

--
GM

John Kuthe wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 9:42:34 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 9:25:28 AM UTC-5, GM wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 8:53:42 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 8:46:24 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>> ... for masturbation!
>>>>>
>>>> Did you have trick-or-treaters last night? I'm sure that
>>>> proximity to children would make you super horny.
>>>>>
>>> Aren't "people" like John, who are on the Bel Nor Sex Offender List, barred from giving candy to kiddies on Halloween...???
>>>
>> 1980 was many years ago. The statute of limitations for
>> fucking a fourteen year old when you are twenty ran out a
>> long time ago. You don't get on the sex offender registry
>> merely by being a known pedophile. You have to get
>> convicted.
>>> --
>>> GM
>>
>> --Bryan
>
> I have never been convicted of anything!
>
> John Kuthe, Retired
>

Neither has trump.

On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 8:56:06 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
> John Kuthe wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 9:42:34 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 9:25:28 AM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 8:53:42 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> >>>> On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 8:46:24 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> >>>>> ... for masturbation!
> >>>>>
> >>>> Did you have trick-or-treaters last night? I'm sure that
> >>>> proximity to children would make you super horny.
> >>>>>
> >>> Aren't "people" like John, who are on the Bel Nor Sex Offender List, barred from giving candy to kiddies on Halloween...???
> >>>
> >> 1980 was many years ago. The statute of limitations for
> >> fucking a fourteen year old when you are twenty ran out a
> >> long time ago. You don't get on the sex offender registry
> >> merely by being a known pedophile. You have to get
> >> convicted.
> >>> --
> >>> GM
> >>
> >> --Bryan
> >
> > I have never been convicted of anything!
> >
> > John Kuthe, Retired
> >
> Neither has trump.
>
Yet.

--Bryan

On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 8:50:51 AM UTC-10, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 8:51:24 AM UTC-4, songbird wrote:
> > Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> > ...
> > > I grew up eating lamb chops, probably once a week. Then I got married..
> > > My wife hates lamb. I may have eaten lamb four or five times in the fifty
> > > years since, in restaurants. I "think" I bought some lamb chops when she
> > > was visiting relatives once.
> > > I don't like cooking two dishes for two people.
> >
> > same here, but i do sometimes make the simpler version
> > first and then divide it so i can spice up one portion
> > for me.
> >
> > i haven't made my own version of lamb stew in many
> > years because it has lamb and cabbage
> OK now I'm confused. People on 60's and 70's TV shows always rave about lamb stew with lentils. So, where'd this talk about cabbage come in?

I was surprised when my kids ordered braised lamb shanks at Haleiwa Joe's restaurant. I've never seen them eat/order lamb before. The lamb shanks were lovely and delectable.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/yVaMJcdoMv7mcB5b8

On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 4:25:11 AM UTC-10, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 8:33:00 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 8:50:51 AM UTC-10, bruce bowser wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 8:51:24 AM UTC-4, songbird wrote:
> > > > Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> > > > ...
> > > > > I grew up eating lamb chops, probably once a week. Then I got married.
> > > > > My wife hates lamb. I may have eaten lamb four or five times in the fifty
> > > > > years since, in restaurants. I "think" I bought some lamb chops when she
> > > > > was visiting relatives once.
> > > > > I don't like cooking two dishes for two people.
> > > >
> > > > same here, but i do sometimes make the simpler version
> > > > first and then divide it so i can spice up one portion
> > > > for me.
> > > >
> > > > i haven't made my own version of lamb stew in many
> > > > years because it has lamb and cabbage
> > > OK now I'm confused. People on 60's and 70's TV shows always rave about lamb stew with lentils. So, where'd this talk about cabbage come in?
> > I was surprised when my kids ordered braised lamb shanks at Haleiwa Joe's restaurant. I've never seen them eat/order lamb before. The lamb shanks were lovely and delectable.
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/yVaMJcdoMv7mcB5b8
> Here in NYC, they Arab restaurants have lamb sausage called merguez. Expensive stuff, though.

They got everything in New York City. Well, maybe not Hawaiian food. That's okay - Hawaiian food is kinda weird. Zippy's food might be appealing to some New Yorkers, I guess, maybe.

https://www.yelp.com/biz/zippys-badura-las-vegas

On Sun, 29 Oct 2023 08:35:00 -0400, jmcquown wrote:

> On 10/28/2023 6:15 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Oct 2023 08:30:13 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>>> I was on the road, to and from Maryland, all day.  I was gifted a
>>>> past-date 7/11 store turkey sandwich earlier in the day,
>>
>> Really? You even dive the 7-11 dumpsters for stale sandwiches?
>>
>> Figures.
>>
>> -sw
>
> Incorrect attribution. But I'm sure someone gave Michael that sandwich.

Given his penchant for dumpster diving and how many peoepl I've
seen diving the dumpsters of 7-11 and Starbucks only to come back
to the bus stops and gloat about their newfound wares, the odds
are much greater than you figure.

On 11/3/2023 5:21 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Oct 2023 08:35:00 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 10/28/2023 6:15 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Sat, 28 Oct 2023 08:30:13 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I was on the road, to and from Maryland, all day. I was gifted a
>>>>> past-date 7/11 store turkey sandwich earlier in the day,
>>>
>>> Really? You even dive the 7-11 dumpsters for stale sandwiches?
>>
>> Incorrect attribution. But I'm sure someone gave Michael that sandwich.
>
> Given his penchant for dumpster diving and how many peoepl I've
> seen diving the dumpsters of 7-11 and Starbucks only to come back
> to the bus stops and gloat about their newfound wares, the odds
> are much greater than you figure.

Again wrong, as per usual. My friend works at 7/11, and has to "throw
away" depressing amounts of food that isn't sold. It usually goes into
a bag on-camera, then home and into the fridge.

I do re-sell trash finds, but I sure don't eat them.

On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 10:41:57 -0400, Michael Trew wrote:

> A friend of mine who I went to visit works at 7/11, and she takes home
> post-dated food that the store is going to throw out. I do not
> dumpster-dive for food. The sandwiches were stored in a refrigerator,
> and they were perfectly edible. Sophia was sent to school with one, and
> the last one will be my lunch today. I don't like waste.

Now at least 5 days out of date...

-sw

On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 09:33:47 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 wrote:

> Indeed the food is perfectly edible

You have no proof of that. You don't know how it was made and
from what, how it was stored, at what temperatures, you can't see
it nor smell it.

I've got some leftover Chinese food in the fridge. Will you eat
it?

> but the power of a date
> printed on a can is strong. I won't let my life be controlled
> by a date made up by somebody. That's ridiculous.

Spoken like a true Confucianist.

-sw

On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 01:38:19 +0000, cshenk wrote:

> No issues with me. Some folks are just stupid on 'expirations'. Heck,
> my SALT has an expiration date! Really? Maldon Salt. They've been
> cropping this since the Romans (and likely longer).

'Cropping'? That must be another entry in the cshenk dictionary.

-sw

On Fri, 03 Nov 2023 18:17:41 -0400, Michael Trew wrote:

> On 11/3/2023 5:21 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Oct 2023 08:35:00 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/28/2023 6:15 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 28 Oct 2023 08:30:13 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I was on the road, to and from Maryland, all day. I was gifted a
>>>>>> past-date 7/11 store turkey sandwich earlier in the day,
>>>>
>>>> Really? You even dive the 7-11 dumpsters for stale sandwiches?
>>>
>>> Incorrect attribution. But I'm sure someone gave Michael that sandwich.
>>
>> Given his penchant for dumpster diving and how many peoepl I've
>> seen diving the dumpsters of 7-11 and Starbucks only to come back
>> to the bus stops and gloat about their newfound wares, the odds
>> are much greater than you figure.
>
> Again wrong, as per usual. My friend works at 7/11, and has to "throw
> away" depressing amounts of food that isn't sold. It usually goes into
> a bag on-camera, then home and into the fridge.

That's exactly the story a 7-11 eating dumpster diver would make
up to cover up their nasty dining habits when confronted.

-sw

> On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 7:13:49 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>
>> If people had to kill what they eat themselves, 90% would be
>> vegetarians. But since they're killed for you and out of sight, you
>> can pretend it doesn't happen and just chew.

Poor Brucette - out of touch with even her alternate realities.

If people had to personally kill what they eat, it would be as
commonplace as choosing a movie to watch.

"You want me to ...what? ... choose a movie?!?!? Ewww, that's
SOOO DISGUSTING!!!!"

-sw

On Sun, 29 Oct 2023 23:22:51 -0000, Janet wrote:

> I've caught and killed fish, raised our own sheep,
> chickens and ducks; always killed the poultry myself and
> led my sheep into the licensed slaughterhouse to make sure
> they got slaughtered with no delay (ensures tenderest
> meat).

I always liked lamb and for decades wanted to try mutton figuring
it was be a stronger-tasting lamb.

Finally got a hold of some a couple years ago and I sure satisfied
that curiosity once and for all. I can see where Sheldon got his
distaste for all "lamb" - his mother was cooking Mutton. And it
sure does schtink.

-sw

On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 19:33:11 -0400, Ed P wrote:

> Put up a sign pointing to the market "Free Meat" and there will be a
> long line.
>
> Put up that same sign, "Free Meat" and have a cow or pig in a pen and
> see how many people will jump in to get it.

You mean like a cage match? Can I at least wear a red cape and
maybe have some chairs to smash over their heads?

Eh <shrug>, it's whatever. Count me in!

-sw

On 2023-11-04, Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.compost> wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 01:38:19 +0000, cshenk wrote:
>
>> No issues with me. Some folks are just stupid on 'expirations'. Heck,
>> my SALT has an expiration date! Really? Maldon Salt. They've been
>> cropping this since the Romans (and likely longer).
>
> 'Cropping'? That must be another entry in the cshenk dictionary.

It's certainly unsuitable in relation to salt.

crop, transitive verb:

2: to cause (land) to bear a crop
_planned to crop another 40 acres_
also : to grow as a crop

crop, intransitive verb:

2: to yield or make a crop

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/crop

Even in relation to ordinary agriculture, it's kind of a specialist
term, so it sounds a little odd to most of us.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 11/4/2023 8:57 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Oct 2023 23:22:51 -0000, Janet wrote:
>
>> I've caught and killed fish, raised our own sheep,
>> chickens and ducks; always killed the poultry myself and
>> led my sheep into the licensed slaughterhouse to make sure
>> they got slaughtered with no delay (ensures tenderest
>> meat).
>
> I always liked lamb and for decades wanted to try mutton figuring
> it was be a stronger-tasting lamb.
>
> Finally got a hold of some a couple years ago and I sure satisfied
> that curiosity once and for all. I can see where Sheldon got his
> distaste for all "lamb" - his mother was cooking Mutton. And it
> sure does schtink.
>
> -sw

Based on his descriptions (schtinks!) I always suspected Sheldon's
mother was cooking mutton. I'd rather not try it.

Jill

On 2023-11-04 8:57 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Oct 2023 23:22:51 -0000, Janet wrote:
>
>> I've caught and killed fish, raised our own sheep,
>> chickens and ducks; always killed the poultry myself and
>> led my sheep into the licensed slaughterhouse to make sure
>> they got slaughtered with no delay (ensures tenderest
>> meat).
>
> I always liked lamb and for decades wanted to try mutton figuring
> it was be a stronger-tasting lamb.
>
> Finally got a hold of some a couple years ago and I sure satisfied
> that curiosity once and for all. I can see where Sheldon got his
> distaste for all "lamb" - his mother was cooking Mutton. And it
> sure does schtink.
>

My father spend more than 3 years in the UK during the war and he hated
lamb mainly because of the mutton they had been fed over there.

On 2023-11-04 9:26 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-11-04, Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.compost> wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 01:38:19 +0000, cshenk wrote:
>>
>>> No issues with me. Some folks are just stupid on 'expirations'. Heck,
>>> my SALT has an expiration date! Really? Maldon Salt. They've been
>>> cropping this since the Romans (and likely longer).
>>
>> 'Cropping'? That must be another entry in the cshenk dictionary.
>
> It's certainly unsuitable in relation to salt.
>
> crop, transitive verb:
>
> 2: to cause (land) to bear a crop
> _planned to crop another 40 acres_
> also : to grow as a crop
>
> crop, intransitive verb:
>
> 2: to yield or make a crop
>
> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/crop
>
> Even in relation to ordinary agriculture, it's kind of a specialist
> term, so it sounds a little odd to most of us.
>

I am still have trouble with the use of "gift" as a verb, like gifting
or "was gifted".

In case you don't know, butterflies migrate just like birds do. This
butterfly appreciated a sip of sugar water. :)

https://i.postimg.cc/Y2J2qNWG/butterfly-feeder.jpg

Jill

On 2023-11-04 9:43 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/4/2023 8:57 AM, Sqwertz wrote:

>> Finally got a hold of some a couple years ago and I sure satisfied
>> that curiosity once and for all.  I can see where Sheldon got his
>> distaste for all "lamb" - his mother was cooking Mutton.  And it
>> sure does schtink.
>>
>> -sw
>
> Based on his descriptions (schtinks!) I always suspected Sheldon's
> mother was cooking mutton.  I'd rather not try it.
>

Or... it was the way it was cooked. I was once visiting my grandmother
and my aunt was cooking supper. She had some nice looking loin chops and
was about to put them in a pan to sear and add water to it and slap a
top on and cook them for about an hour. What a horrible thing to do to a
lamb chop.