On Sun, 5 Nov 2023 16:37:51 -0700, deltahorse <del@ta.or> wrote:

>On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 09:14:20 +1100
>Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 5 Nov 2023 14:15:28 -0700, deltahorse <del@ta.or> wrote:
>>
>> >He's the aging international bond/currency arbitrager that took down the Bank Of England, among others.
>>
>> And why do I care?
>
>You don't, thereby proving my onservation that you are under-educated and narcicistic.

If I don't care about this Soros guy, I'm a narcissist? :) You funny.

The thing is that when right wingers carry on about their conspiracy
theories, I automatically tune out.

There are people like you here who say that the recent bad floods were
caused by the government tinkering with the weather. The government
did that to flush out the people from the countryside into the cities,
where it's easier to control them. Seriously. Ghe ghe. I luv it.

On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 10:58:33 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On Sun, 5 Nov 2023 16:37:51 -0700, deltahorse <del@ta.or> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 09:14:20 +1100
> >Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 5 Nov 2023 14:15:28 -0700, deltahorse <del@ta.or> wrote:
> >>
> >> >He's the aging international bond/currency arbitrager that took down the Bank Of England, among others.
> >>
> >> And why do I care?
> >
> >You don't, thereby proving my onservation that you are under-educated and narcicistic.
>
> If I don't care about this Soros guy, I'm a narcissist? :) You funny.

All true.

> The thing is that when right wingers carry on about their conspiracy
> theories, I automatically tune out.

Breaking the British pound was no "theory".

> There are people like you here who say that the recent bad floods were
> caused by the government tinkering with the weather.

There are people like oyo who change the topic when cornered, many.

On Sun, 5 Nov 2023 17:03:46 -0700, deltahorse <del@ta.or> wrote:

>On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 10:58:33 +1100
>Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 5 Nov 2023 16:37:51 -0700, deltahorse <del@ta.or> wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 09:14:20 +1100
>> >Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 5 Nov 2023 14:15:28 -0700, deltahorse <del@ta.or> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >He's the aging international bond/currency arbitrager that took down the Bank Of England, among others.
>> >>
>> >> And why do I care?
>> >
>> >You don't, thereby proving my onservation that you are under-educated and narcicistic.
>>
>> If I don't care about this Soros guy, I'm a narcissist? :) You funny.
>
>All true.
>
>> The thing is that when right wingers carry on about their conspiracy
>> theories, I automatically tune out.
>
>Breaking the British pound was no "theory".

Oh no! Is it badly broken?

On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 11:53:31 +1100
Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On Sun, 5 Nov 2023 17:03:46 -0700, deltahorse <del@ta.or> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 10:58:33 +1100
> >Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 5 Nov 2023 16:37:51 -0700, deltahorse <del@ta.or> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 09:14:20 +1100
> >> >Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sun, 5 Nov 2023 14:15:28 -0700, deltahorse <del@ta.or> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >He's the aging international bond/currency arbitrager that took down the Bank Of England, among others.
> >> >>
> >> >> And why do I care?
> >> >
> >> >You don't, thereby proving my onservation that you are under-educated and narcicistic.
> >>
> >> If I don't care about this Soros guy, I'm a narcissist? :) You funny.
> >
> >All true.
> >
> >> The thing is that when right wingers carry on about their conspiracy
> >> theories, I automatically tune out.
> >
> >Breaking the British pound was no "theory".
>
> Oh no! Is it badly broken?

Was - learn some history.

On 2023-11-05, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 11/5/2023 4:17 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> On 2023-11-04, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> In case you don't know, butterflies migrate just like birds do.
>>>> This butterfly appreciated a sip of sugar water. :)
>>>>
>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/Y2J2qNWG/butterfly-feeder.jpg
>>>
>>> I found myself shouting at a butterfly yesterday: "Migrate, you
>>> idiot. It's cold up here." Maybe it was a hibernator. It was
>>> orange, so my first thought was Monarch, of course. Perhaps it
>>> was a painted lady.
>>
>> Surprisingly, some do have a sort of 'hibernation'. It has a differnt
>> name but common in Michagan.
>
> Diapause, but that's not adult butterflies.

Mourning cloak butterflies and several others hibernate as adults.
https://www.thoughtco.com/butterflies-you-can-find-in-winter-3997813

--
Cindy Hamilton

jmcquown wrote:

> On 11/5/2023 4:17 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> >>On 2023-11-04, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > In case you don't know, butterflies migrate just like birds do.
> > > > This butterfly appreciated a sip of sugar water. :)
> > > >
> > > > https://i.postimg.cc/Y2J2qNWG/butterfly-feeder.jpg
> > >
> > > I found myself shouting at a butterfly yesterday: "Migrate, you
> > > idiot. It's cold up here." Maybe it was a hibernator. It was
> > > orange, so my first thought was Monarch, of course. Perhaps it
> > > was a painted lady.
> >
> > Surprisingly, some do have a sort of 'hibernation'. It has a
> > differnt name but common in Michagan.
>
> Diapause, but that's not adult butterflies.
>
> Jill

Actually, it also is for adults. Its species specific and I don't
think those live south like us.

deltahorse wrote:

> On Sun, 05 Nov 2023 21:25:48 +0000
> "cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
>
> > deltahorse wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 4 Nov 2023 11:33:52 -0400
> > > jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In case you don't know, butterflies migrate just like birds do.
> > > > This butterfly appreciated a sip of sugar water. :)
> > > >
> > > > https://i.postimg.cc/Y2J2qNWG/butterfly-feeder.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Jill
> > >
> > > Nice pic, he's late to migrate though.
> >
> > Most don't migrate. Some live only a year but some live longer.
>
> Um:
>
> https://youtu.be/AN8-pNnvJ5s
>
> Millions of monarch butterflies flutter to the mountains in Mexico
> every October
>
> ___ ___ ___ ___ __ __
> ( @ \v/ m ) { ~ \,/ ~ } (()\,/ )
> \__+|+__/ \_~_|_~_/ \_ | _/
> {_/ \_} (_/'\_) { /'\*}

They are the only ones that really migrate.

jmcquown wrote:

> On 11/5/2023 4:25 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > deltahorse wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 4 Nov 2023 11:33:52 -0400
> >>jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In case you don't know, butterflies migrate just like birds do.
> > > > This butterfly appreciated a sip of sugar water. :)
> > > >
> > > > https://i.postimg.cc/Y2J2qNWG/butterfly-feeder.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Jill
> > >
> > > Nice pic, he's late to migrate though.
> >
> > Most don't migrate. Some live only a year but some live longer.
>
>
> There are at least 10 butterflies in North America known to migrate:
>
> https://wildlifeinformer.com/butterflies-that-migrate/
>
> Jill

They don't migrate as far of do it back and forth in one year like
monarchs.

cshenk wrote:
....
> They don't migrate as far of do it back and forth in one year like
> monarchs.

i don't think that the monarchs in the north make it
back to warmer climates in a single season.

songbird

On 2023-11-07 2:38 a.m., cshenk wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>

>> There are at least 10 butterflies in North America known to migrate:
>>
>> https://wildlifeinformer.com/butterflies-that-migrate/
>>
>> Jill
>
> They don't migrate as far of do it back and forth in one year like
> monarchs.

Individual Monarch butterflies do not migrate make and forth in a year.
It takes successive generations of them to make the return trip.

On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 2:41:53 AM UTC-10, songbird wrote:
> cshenk wrote:
> ...
> > They don't migrate as far of do it back and forth in one year like
> > monarchs.
> i don't think that the monarchs in the north make it
> back to warmer climates in a single season.
>
>
> songbird

The Kolea is a small bird that migrates between Alaska and Hawaii yearly. Why do they do that? It takes them 3 to 4 days to make the 3,000 mile trip and they do it the hard way because they can't soar or glide during their flight. My friend has a bird that returns back to his house year after year. That kolea could be the same one from 20 years ago. They are amazing birds. Hats off to animals that like to do things the hard way - that includes humans.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/x8QdkjoGdWnBEwGm8

On 11/7/2023 11:35 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 2:41:53 AM UTC-10, songbird wrote:
>> cshenk wrote:
>> ...
>>> They don't migrate as far of do it back and forth in one year like
>>> monarchs.
>> i don't think that the monarchs in the north make it
>> back to warmer climates in a single season.
>>
>>
>> songbird
>
> The Kolea is a small bird that migrates between Alaska and Hawaii yearly. Why do they do that? It takes them 3 to 4 days to make the 3,000 mile trip and they do it the hard way because they can't soar or glide during their flight. My friend has a bird that returns back to his house year after year. That kolea could be the same one from 20 years ago. They are amazing birds. Hats off to animals that like to do things the hard way - that includes humans.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/x8QdkjoGdWnBEwGm8
>

Sunday night John Oliver did a segment on the Pūteketeke.

https://www.birdoftheyear.org.nz/australasian-crested-grebe/

You really had to see the show to see the extent they went to in order
to raise some funds for preservation, and what the bird itself it like.

Watch here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GF6Gd7wrlk&ab_channel=1News

On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 10:35:06 AM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 2:41:53 AM UTC-10, songbird wrote:
> > cshenk wrote:
> > ...
> > > They don't migrate as far of do it back and forth in one year like
> > > monarchs.
> > i don't think that the monarchs in the north make it
> > back to warmer climates in a single season.
> >
> >
> > songbird
> The Kolea is a small bird that migrates between Alaska and Hawaii yearly. Why do they do that? It takes them 3 to 4 days to make the 3,000 mile trip and they do it the hard way because they can't soar or glide during their flight. My friend has a bird that returns back to his house year after year.. That kolea could be the same one from 20 years ago. They are amazing birds. Hats off to animals that like to do things the hard way - that includes humans.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/x8QdkjoGdWnBEwGm8

Are these birds comparable to "self - driving" cars...

Due to the fact that they fly "autonomously"...???

🐦

--
GM

On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 12:06:24 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 11/7/2023 11:35 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 2:41:53 AM UTC-10, songbird wrote:
>>> cshenk wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> They don't migrate as far of do it back and forth in one year like
>>>> monarchs.
>>> i don't think that the monarchs in the north make it
>>> back to warmer climates in a single season.
>>>
>>>
>>> songbird
>>
>> The Kolea is a small bird that migrates between Alaska and Hawaii yearly. Why do they do that? It takes them 3 to 4 days to make the 3,000 mile trip and they do it the hard way because they can't soar or glide during their flight. My friend has a bird that returns back to his house year after year. That kolea could be the same one from 20 years ago. They are amazing birds. Hats off to animals that like to do things the hard way - that includes humans.
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/x8QdkjoGdWnBEwGm8
>
>Sunday night John Oliver did a segment on the Pūteketeke.

Whatever that is, it sounds (reads) Maori.

On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 7:06:31 AM UTC-10, Ed P wrote:
> On 11/7/2023 11:35 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 2:41:53 AM UTC-10, songbird wrote:
> >> cshenk wrote:
> >> ...
> >>> They don't migrate as far of do it back and forth in one year like
> >>> monarchs.
> >> i don't think that the monarchs in the north make it
> >> back to warmer climates in a single season.
> >>
> >>
> >> songbird
> >
> > The Kolea is a small bird that migrates between Alaska and Hawaii yearly. Why do they do that? It takes them 3 to 4 days to make the 3,000 mile trip and they do it the hard way because they can't soar or glide during their flight. My friend has a bird that returns back to his house year after year. That kolea could be the same one from 20 years ago. They are amazing birds. Hats off to animals that like to do things the hard way - that includes humans.
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/x8QdkjoGdWnBEwGm8
> >
> Sunday night John Oliver did a segment on the Pūteketeke.
>
> https://www.birdoftheyear.org.nz/australasian-crested-grebe/
>
> You really had to see the show to see the extent they went to in order
> to raise some funds for preservation, and what the bird itself it like.
>
> Watch here
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GF6Gd7wrlk&ab_channel=1News

Thanks for the link. What a crazy bird. The Aussies have some pretty crazy birds. They make me laugh.
Here's a picture of a critter in our condo. The Hawaiians consider it good luck to have them in the house.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/xyx4xAMMdp2ArF5u7

On 11/7/2023 2:34 AM, cshenk wrote:
> deltahorse wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 05 Nov 2023 21:25:48 +0000
>> "cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
>>
>>> deltahorse wrote:
>>>
>> ___ ___ ___ ___ __ __
>> ( @ \v/ m ) { ~ \,/ ~ } (()\,/ )
>> \__+|+__/ \_~_|_~_/ \_ | _/
>> {_/ \_} (_/'\_) { /'\*}
>
Congratulations on loving the ASCII

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/7/2023 2:34 AM, cshenk wrote:
>> deltahorse wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 05 Nov 2023 21:25:48 +0000
>>> "cshenk" <cshenk@virginia-beach.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> deltahorse wrote:
>>>>
>>>   ___   ___     ___   ___       __   __
>>> ( @ \v/ m )   { ~ \,/ ~ }     (()\,/  )
>>>   \__+|+__/     \_~_|_~_/       \_ | _/
>>>    {_/ \_}       (_/'\_)        { /'\*}
>>
> Congratulations on loving the ASCII
>
> Jill
>

Show us more, your majesty!

On 2023-11-07, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 12:06:24 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

>>Sunday night John Oliver did a segment on the Pūteketeke.

> Whatever that is, it sounds (reads) Maori.

Speaking of Maori, protect the Kākāpō!

On 8 Nov 2023 17:06:33 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 2023-11-07, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On Tue, 7 Nov 2023 12:06:24 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
>
>>>Sunday night John Oliver did a segment on the Pūteketeke.
>
>> Whatever that is, it sounds (reads) Maori.
>
>
>Speaking of Maori, protect the Kākāpō!

That's one unique looking bird:
<https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/Sirocco_full_length_portrait.jpg/240px-Sirocco_full_length_portrait.jpg>

dsi1 wrote:
> Here's a picture of a critter in our condo. The Hawaiians consider it good luck to have them in the house.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/xyx4xAMMdp2ArF5u7

True: I've had a small toy one of those on my bathroom sink for over 20
years. (pic to follow...someday)