"Little@man.Ball" <suck@ra.mentos> wrote in news:20240421101039.29883975@
234567aaa:

> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 13:30:47 +0000
> Mitchell Holman <dalmationstation@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>> news:0001HW.2BD4ED91002DA46C30616A38F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Even the Roman government sent people to Israel and other places to
>> > see what made the Christians tick and behave the way they did in
>> > those days at the beginning after the resurrection of Christ.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I would love see some proof of that one...
>
>
> Um...the Crusades!

1) Pope Urban II was hardly "the Roman government".

2) He hardly cared about "what made Christians tick"
in Israel.

"Little@man.Ball" <suck@ra.mentos> wrote in news:20240421100248.2b430c66@
234567aaa:

> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 09:30:09 +1000
> Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> wrote:
>
>> if you believe Noah's Ark really happened or is even possible
>
> If not, you're in denial:
>
> https://arkencounter.com/
>
> Ark Encounter features a full-size Noah’s Ark, built according to the
> dimensions given in the Bible. Spanning 510 feet long, 85 feet wide,
> and 51 feet high, this modern engineering marvel amazes visitors young
> and old.
>

Known land animal species =

Insects: 1 million+ species
Arachnids: 75,500 species
Reptiles: 7,984 species
Amphibians: 5,400 species
Birds: 9,000-10,000 species
Mammals: 4,475-5,000 species
Dinosaurs 750 known species
http://tinyurl.com/3xd4xd3

And they all fit into Ye Ark,
along with a years supply of food
for each of them.

Right.....................

On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 18:14:12 +0000
Mitchell Holman <dalmationstation@aol.com> wrote:

> Are you saying NONE of the people praying
> for his recovery was a "believer"?

Are you so moronic to think prayer alone changes God's plans?

On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 18:19:28 +0000
Mitchell Holman <dalmationstation@aol.com> wrote:

> "Science flies you to the moon.
> Faith flies you into buildings"

The moon landing was hoaxed, so there's that...

On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 18:25:54 +0000
Mitchell Holman <dalmationstation@aol.com> wrote:

> Modern Christian: Someone who rejects
> faith healing

A lie.

See: Christian Scientists.

On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 18:29:41 +0000
Mitchell Holman <dalmationstation@aol.com> wrote:

> > Um...the Crusades!
>
>
> 1) Pope Urban II was hardly "the Roman government".
>
> 2) He hardly cared about "what made Christians tick"
> in Israel.
You LOST his one BIG TIME, Holefucker.

Btw - it was Constantine who homologated the Bible into a monotheistic
constant after he panoply of roman "gods" failed during a time
of...wait for it...CLIMATE CHANGE!

Ya dumb buttfucker!

On Apr 21, 2024, Little@man.Ball wrote
(in article <20240421104756.37f8f5e1@234567aaa>):

> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 11:15:58 -0500
> Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 4/21/2024 11:11 AM, Little@man.Ball wrote:
> > > On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 13:27:32 +0000
> > > Mitchell Holman <dalmationstation@aol.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > April 2005: Pope John Paul II falls ill
> > > > with a kidney infection. BILLIONS of people
> > > > all over the world pray for his recovery.
> > > > He dies anyway.
> > > >
> > > > Are you saying NONE of those people
> > > > were "believers"?
> > >
> > > Are you saying their beliefs eclipse God's will?
> >
> > No one can agree upon "God's will"; if you disagree, name an example
> > of what God wills.
> >
> > Dawn
>
> Gladly:
>
> Sodom & Gomorrah.
>
> Out.

“And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own
habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the
judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about
them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after
strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of
eternal fire. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise
dominion, and speak evil of dignities.” (Jud 1:6-8, KJV)

As one can see here, they were an example for all of humanity as to do what
they did, the same thing will happen to those from any age, in regards to
their eternal death and torment, unless they receive forgiveness before they
die. And this is in addition to the price they pay in this life for their
actions, as a warning to them ahead of death.

On Apr 21, 2024, Dawn Flood wrote
(in article <v03dg0$cjvt$3@dont-email.me>):

> On 4/20/2024 10:36 PM, Robert wrote:
> > On Apr 20, 2024, Maximus wrote
> > (in article <l8j1t3F4k36U1@mid.individual.net>):
> >
> > > Robert wrote:
> > > > On Apr 20, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > (in article<XnsB15A87CE5C25Cnoemailcomcastnet@69.80.102.18>):
> > > >
> > > > > Dawn Flood<Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in news:v00rh0$3p04n$1
> > > > > @dont-email.me:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 4/20/2024 8:33 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > > > > > Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> wrote in news:l8hd7gFrgdaU1
> > > > > > > @mid.individual.net:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Michael Christ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On 13/04/2024 3:53 pm, Dawn Flood wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On 4/12/2024 8:33 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Maximus in his grandeur with incredible ignorance wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm of the opinion that the more a person knows about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the christian faith, the less likely they are to believe in it.
> > > > > > > > > > > Phil seeing the "observed fact," wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > That's just your narcissism and megalomania speaking though.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Mego Maximus
> > > > > > > > > > > > no observed fact. easy to be christian is you believe everything
> > > > > > > > > > > > your told, and don't question anything
> > > > > > > > > > > No, that is just your narcissism and megalomania speaking, in the
> > > > > > > > > > > "full of yourself" superficial mindbogglingly stupid ignorance and
> > > > > > > > > > > arrogance, Moronimus Maximus.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Other than that, it is all good.
> > > > > > > > > > Michael,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > With a God, I can imagine a universe that is vastly, vastly
> > > > > different
> > > > > > > > > > than the one that we are living in now in almost innumerably
> > > > > > > > > > different ways.
> > > > > > > > > Immeasurably.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This universe is already dead, so obviously. It is only an
> > > > > appearance
> > > > > > > > > of "living." Death is not just in the grave; marching towards the
> > > > > > > > > grave is death. Our cells tell you from the moment we are born that
> > > > > > > > > the replacing cells are not quite the same, as good, as the
> > > > > original.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > As it is, things seem to me to be far too "natural".
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Dawn
> > > > > > > > > Do you know why life appears to go on? Because it does. Now, if the
> > > > > > > > > atheist theory of stupidity were true according to the natural view
> > > > > > > > > (truth), we wouldn't even have such a thought.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When are you ever going to mature enough to postulate there may be
> > > > > > > > > more to life than what your natural perception is telling you?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Do you really think that a new born life and all the personality in
> > > > > > > > > that new life is just natural? Then how do you get that one-of
> > > > > > > > > personality from impersonal matter and energy elements and into the
> > > > > > > > > nature of billions with personality.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Physics will never provide an answer to that, proving there is more
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > life than physics (science).
> > > > > > > > so are you saying personality is from some sort of God presence
> > > > > within?
> > > > > > > > if so what about animals? they have personalities too. do they too
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > > some divine presence within?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bingo. Genesis went to great length
> > > > > > > to separate animals from people when it
> > > > > > > comes to divinity yet when God was angry
> > > > > > > about "corruption" he drowned the animals
> > > > > > > along with people.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Once again, you have me dancing to your tune, Dawn, but I am not
> > > > > going
> > > > > > > > > to keep doing that forever.
> > > > > > > > translation: I will not engage in rational debate. i just want to
> > > > > > > spruik
> > > > > > > > my gobbledygook
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is the equivalant of Robert's
> > > > > > > "This conversation is over" whenever you
> > > > > > > catch him in a contradiction or a claim
> > > > > > > he cannot prove.
> > > > > > I hope that you are able to listen to that 7-hour debate between
> > > > > > Professor Bart Ehrman and Dr. Mike Licona, the latter who admitted
> > > > > > during the debate that a believer is susceptible to losing their faith
> > > > > > unless they are "grounded", a candid admission that to believe is to be
> > > > > > brainwashed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dawn
> > > > > All arguments with all Christians
> > > > > eventually boil down to "you just have
> > > > > to have faith".
> > > > “And when Jesus departed thence, two blind men followed him, crying, and
> > > > saying, Thou Son of David, have mercy on us. And when he was come into the
> > > > house, the blind men came to him: and Jesus saith unto them, Believe ye
> > > > that
> > > > I am able to do this? They said unto him, Yea, Lord. Then touched he their
> > > > eyes, saying, According to your faith be it unto you.” (Mat 9:27-29,
> > > > KJV)
> > >
> > > Matthew 17:20: "Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a
> > > mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’
> > > and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.”
> >
> > Mark 11:22-24(KJV)
> >
> > 22And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
> >
> > 23For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be
> > thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his
> > heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to
> > pass;
> > he shall have whatsoever he saith.
> >
> > 24Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray,
> > believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.
>
> Robert,
>
> Faith does not move mountains. Dynamite & bulldozers move mountains.
>
> Dawn

How would you know?
Do you know the meaning of the original word used in that verse? How they
arrived at the word “mountain” in English? That the word Mountain could
be applied to evidence, events, circumstances, and a host of other things,
including but not limited to a hill or mountain of dirt, rock, of combination
thereof?

On Apr 21, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
(in article<XnsB15B569C0CE7Bnoemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.20>):

> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> news:0001HW.2BD4ED91002DA46C30616A38F@news.eternal-september.org:
>
> >
> > Even the Roman government sent people to Israel and other places to
> > see what made the Christians tick and behave the way they did in those
> > days at the beginning after the resurrection of Christ.
>
> I would love see some proof of that one...

It has already been given to you several times, what difference would it make
to show you one more time when you are opposed to truth?

On Apr 21, 2024, Little@man.Ball wrote
(in article <20240421100506.7a947bda@234567aaa>):

> On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 16:35:01 -0700
> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 20, 2024, Lil-man-ball wrote
> > (in article <20240420125529.0601a454@234567aaa>):
> >
> > > On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 11:38:30 -0700
> > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Apr 20, 2024, Lil-man-ball wrote
> > > > (in article <20240420112023.76a5768d@234567aaa>):
> > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 13:33:43 +0000
> > > > > Mitchell Holman <dalmationstation@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Genesis went to great length
> > > > > > to separate animals from people when it
> > > > > > comes to divinity yet when God was angry
> > > > > > about "corruption" he drowned the animals
> > > > > > along with people.
> > > > >
> > > > > You do realize that it was in the animals on the Ark that evil
> > > > > was released again unto the descendants of Noah and Ham.
> > > > >
> > > > > You moron.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://lifehopeandtruth.com/bible/blog/clean-and-unclean-animals-on-the-
> > > > > ar
> > > > > k/
> > > > >
> > > > > Genesis 7:2
> > > > > You shall take with you seven each of every clean animal, a male
> > > > > and his female; two each of animals that are unclean, a male and
> > > > > his female.
> > > > >
> > > > > Noah was commanded to take seven pairs (a pair being a male and
> > > > > a female) of clean animals and one pair of unclean animals.
> > > >
> > > > Unclean animals simple means that they were not suitable as a
> > > > suitable sacrifice to God.
> > > > Also, most of those animals were unfit to eat when not cooked
> > > > properly and could cause sickness and or death when not properly
> > > > prepared. UnKosher.
> > > >
> > > > The clean animals were also used as a sacrifice to God for
> > > > thanksgiving for their deliverance when the flood subsided, as
> > > > well as some for the cleansing of their sins. No unclean animal
> > > > was used for those purposes, ever, by Godly people.
> > >
> > > The spirit of Satan went with the animals unto Ham.
> >
> > Nope
>
> Yes.
>
> Satan, the devil was there long before it was built and was in and
> around it after it set sail. Of course, The Creator had all power to
> protect the Crew of the ship and that His plan had gone the way He had
> accorded it. The devil however, at the time knowing that He was no
> match for the Creator, he had to sit back and choose when to pounce on
> the human elements existing at the time, by way of the human nature
> that is so prone to his wicked and sinful way of doing things. As we
> later see what happened when Noah got drunk and his son Ham found him
> and chose to go an tell his brothers what he saw, making fun od the the
> situation and not seek to cover his father's nakedness and not let it
> be an issue.

Nope.

The spirit of satan did not migrate from the animals to Ham.

The evil spirits have been here since Adam. They do not need flesh to
survive. They are spirit.

On 4/21/2024 1:02 PM, Andrew wrote:
> "Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:v03dda$cjvt$2@dont-email.me...
>
>> This is false.  I have faith that the laws of nature will continue
>> this afternoon and into tomorrow & beyond, but unlike religious faith,
>> my faith is falsifiable.  It is possible that beginning tomorrow that
>> apples may start rising up from the ground, but until then, the
>> description of the physical world given by modern science at least
>> implies "almost surely" that such will *not* happen.
>>
>> Dawn
>
> The laws of nature all point to the fact that we have a Creator.
> Such as the Law of Biogenesis, which says that all life comes
> from previous existing life. Never an exception ever. It is a
> Law of science.
>
> Then we can get into the Laws of thermo, and the existence of
> matter..

We've going through this ad nauseam, Andrew; point to a single
scientific paper and/or textbook that supports your POV. We can also
talk about the Kitzmiller v. Dover decision, but you have your
explanations as to that outcome, also, don't you?

Dawn

On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 18:36:44 +0000
Mitchell Holman <dalmationstation@aol.com> wrote:

> "Little@man.Ball" <suck@ra.mentos> wrote in
> news:20240421100248.2b430c66@ 234567aaa:
>
> > On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 09:30:09 +1000
> > Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> wrote:
> >
> >> if you believe Noah's Ark really happened or is even possible
> >
> > If not, you're in denial:
> >
> > https://arkencounter.com/
> >
> > Ark Encounter features a full-size Noah’s Ark, built according to
> > the dimensions given in the Bible. Spanning 510 feet long, 85 feet
> > wide, and 51 feet high, this modern engineering marvel amazes
> > visitors young and old.
> >
>
>
>
> Known land animal species =
>
> Insects: 1 million+ species
>

Takes about 7 species to reboot ALL the DNA - seriously, dumb fuck!

"Little@man.Ball" <suck@ra.mentos> wrote in news:20240421124807.54a6e7df@
234567aaa:

> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 18:14:12 +0000
> Mitchell Holman <dalmationstation@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Are you saying NONE of the people praying
>> for his recovery was a "believer"?
>
>
> Are you so moronic to think prayer alone changes God's plans?
>
>

If prayer doesn't change anything why do it?

In article <XnsB15B90684744Cnoemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.13>,
dalmationstation@aol.com says...
>
> "Little@man.Ball" <suck@ra.mentos> wrote in news:20240421124807.54a6e7df@
> 234567aaa:
>
> > On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 18:14:12 +0000
> > Mitchell Holman <dalmationstation@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Are you saying NONE of the people praying
> >> for his recovery was a "believer"?
> >
> >
> > Are you so moronic to think prayer alone changes God's plans?
> >
> >
>
>
> If prayer doesn't change anything why do it?

He didn't say "anything". More word play.

In article <3RycnRfE86GP4Lj7nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, 68hx.1805
@g5t8x.net says...
>
> On 4/21/24 3:23 PM, Little@man.Ball wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 18:36:44 +0000
> > Mitchell Holman <dalmationstation@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Little@man.Ball" <suck@ra.mentos> wrote in
> >> news:20240421100248.2b430c66@ 234567aaa:
> >>
> >>> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 09:30:09 +1000
> >>> Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> if you believe Noah's Ark really happened or is even possible
> >>>
> >>> If not, you're in denial:
> >>>
> >>> https://arkencounter.com/
> >>>
> >>> Ark Encounter features a full-size Noah?s Ark, built according to
> >>> the dimensions given in the Bible. Spanning 510 feet long, 85 feet
> >>> wide, and 51 feet high, this modern engineering marvel amazes
> >>> visitors young and old.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Known land animal species =
> >>
> >> Insects: 1 million+ species
> >>
> >
> > Takes about 7 species to reboot ALL the DNA - seriously, dumb fuck!
>
> Um ... better take a few bio night-courses.
>
> Beetles do not produce grasshoppers do not
> produce centipedes. The DNA bits do not just
> recombine into a million other distinct
> species - esp in a short time.
>
> Oh wait ... "GAWD *WILLED* IT !!!" :-)
>
> "Discussions" like this are why everybody should just
> drop the religion BS entirely. "Reasoning" using mythos
> as axioms, castles built upon clouds ...... there's an
> old computer-sci term "GIGO" - which means "Garbage IN =
> Garbage OUT".

Figures. I bet you think AI is your Saviour.

On 4/21/24 3:23 PM, Little@man.Ball wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 18:36:44 +0000
> Mitchell Holman <dalmationstation@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> "Little@man.Ball" <suck@ra.mentos> wrote in
>> news:20240421100248.2b430c66@ 234567aaa:
>>
>>> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 09:30:09 +1000
>>> Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> wrote:
>>>
>>>> if you believe Noah's Ark really happened or is even possible
>>>
>>> If not, you're in denial:
>>>
>>> https://arkencounter.com/
>>>
>>> Ark Encounter features a full-size Noah’s Ark, built according to
>>> the dimensions given in the Bible. Spanning 510 feet long, 85 feet
>>> wide, and 51 feet high, this modern engineering marvel amazes
>>> visitors young and old.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Known land animal species =
>>
>> Insects: 1 million+ species
>>
>
> Takes about 7 species to reboot ALL the DNA - seriously, dumb fuck!

Um ... better take a few bio night-courses.

Beetles do not produce grasshoppers do not
produce centipedes. The DNA bits do not just
recombine into a million other distinct
species - esp in a short time.

Oh wait ... "GAWD *WILLED* IT !!!" :-)

"Discussions" like this are why everybody should just
drop the religion BS entirely. "Reasoning" using mythos
as axioms, castles built upon clouds ...... there's an
old computer-sci term "GIGO" - which means "Garbage IN =
Garbage OUT".

On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 16:54:41 -0400
"68hx.1806" <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:

> On 4/21/24 3:23 PM, Little@man.Ball wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 18:36:44 +0000
> > Mitchell Holman <dalmationstation@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Little@man.Ball" <suck@ra.mentos> wrote in
> >> news:20240421100248.2b430c66@ 234567aaa:
> >>
> >>> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 09:30:09 +1000
> >>> Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> if you believe Noah's Ark really happened or is even possible
> >>>
> >>> If not, you're in denial:
> >>>
> >>> https://arkencounter.com/
> >>>
> >>> Ark Encounter features a full-size Noah’s Ark, built according to
> >>> the dimensions given in the Bible. Spanning 510 feet long, 85 feet
> >>> wide, and 51 feet high, this modern engineering marvel amazes
> >>> visitors young and old.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Known land animal species > >>
> >> Insects: 1 million+ species
> >>
> >
> > Takes about 7 species to reboot ALL the DNA - seriously, dumb fuck!
> >
>
> Um ... better take a few bio night-courses.
>

Better know that God has a full DNA set ready to deploy on the landing
site.

On 21/04/2024 10:26 pm, Maximus wrote:
> Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 21/04/2024 7:37 pm, Maximus wrote:
>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> On 21/04/2024 3:15 pm, Maximus wrote:
>>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>> On 21/04/2024 12:14 pm, Maximus wrote:
>>>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:662417e6$0$7179$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In article <XnsB15A87CE5C25Cnoemailcomcastnet@69.80.102.18>,
>>>>>>>>> dalmationstation@aol.com says...
>>>>>>>>>> Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:v00rh0$3p04n$1
>>>>>>>>>> @dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/20/2024 8:33 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> wrote in news:l8hd7gFrgdaU1
>>>>>>>>>>>> @mid.individual.net:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/04/2024 3:53 pm, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/12/2024 8:33 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maximus in his grandeur with incredible ignorance wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm of the opinion that the more a person knows about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the christian faith, the less likely they are to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil seeing the "observed fact," wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's just your narcissism and megalomania speaking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mego Maximus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no observed fact. easy to be christian is you believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything your told, and don't question anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, that is just your narcissism and megalomania
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speaking, in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the "full of yourself" superficial mindbogglingly stupid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorance and arrogance, Moronimus Maximus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other than that, it is all good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With a God, I can imagine a universe that is vastly, vastly
>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than the one that we are living in now in almost innumerably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different ways.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Immeasurably.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This universe is already dead, so obviously. It is only an
>>>>>>>>>> appearance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of "living." Death is not just in the grave; marching towards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the grave is death. Our cells tell you from the moment we are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> born that the replacing cells are not quite the same, as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as the
>>>>>>>>>> original.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it is, things seem to me to be far too "natural".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know why life appears to go on? Because it does.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the atheist theory of stupidity were true according to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> natural view (truth), we wouldn't even have such a thought.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you ever going to mature enough to postulate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be more to life than what your natural perception is telling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you really think that a new born life and all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in that new life is just natural? Then how do you get that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one-of personality from impersonal matter and energy elements
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and into the nature of billions with personality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Physics will never provide an answer to that, proving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life than physics (science).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> so are you saying personality is from some sort of God
>>>>>>>>>>>>> presence
>>>>>>>>>> within?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if so what about animals? they have personalities too. do they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> some divine presence within?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>      Bingo. Genesis went to great length
>>>>>>>>>>>> to separate animals from people when it
>>>>>>>>>>>> comes to divinity yet when God was angry
>>>>>>>>>>>> about "corruption" he drowned the animals
>>>>>>>>>>>> along with people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, you have me dancing to your tune, Dawn, but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am not
>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to keep doing that forever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> translation: I will not engage in rational debate. i just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>>>>>>> spruik
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my gobbledygook
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>        This is the equivalant of Robert's
>>>>>>>>>>>> "This conversation is over" whenever you
>>>>>>>>>>>> catch him in a contradiction or a claim
>>>>>>>>>>>> he cannot prove.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I hope that you are able to listen to that 7-hour debate between
>>>>>>>>>>> Professor Bart Ehrman and Dr. Mike Licona, the latter who
>>>>>>>>>>> admitted
>>>>>>>>>>> during the debate that a believer is susceptible to losing their
>>>>>>>>>>> faith unless they are "grounded", a candid admission that to
>>>>>>>>>>> believe is to be brainwashed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>       All arguments with all Christians
>>>>>>>>>> eventually boil down to "you just have
>>>>>>>>>> to have faith".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>       Maybe that is why so many have
>>>>>>>>>> come here and left, they cannot prove
>>>>>>>>>> any of their claims.
>>>>>>>>> Or maybe they got tired of all the redundant questions you use for
>>>>>>>>> answers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      If Christians had facts they wouldn't need faith.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> exactly

On 4/21/24 5:11 PM, Little@man.Ball wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 16:54:41 -0400
> "68hx.1806" <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
>
>> On 4/21/24 3:23 PM, Little@man.Ball wrote:
>>> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 18:36:44 +0000
>>> Mitchell Holman <dalmationstation@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Little@man.Ball" <suck@ra.mentos> wrote in
>>>> news:20240421100248.2b430c66@ 234567aaa:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 09:30:09 +1000
>>>>> Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> if you believe Noah's Ark really happened or is even possible
>>>>>
>>>>> If not, you're in denial:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://arkencounter.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Ark Encounter features a full-size Noah’s Ark, built according to
>>>>> the dimensions given in the Bible. Spanning 510 feet long, 85 feet
>>>>> wide, and 51 feet high, this modern engineering marvel amazes
>>>>> visitors young and old.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Known land animal species =
>>>>
>>>> Insects: 1 million+ species
>>>>
>>>
>>> Takes about 7 species to reboot ALL the DNA - seriously, dumb fuck!
>>>
>>
>> Um ... better take a few bio night-courses.
>>
>
>
> Better know that God has a full DNA set ready to deploy on the landing
> site.

Takes a lot more than DNA ... bodies are SYSTEMS and DNA
is only ONE working part. Everything interacts, co-evolved,
with everything else. A bucket of grasshopper DNA will not
yield one actual grasshopper. There are textbooks all about
this stuff ... do they still have "libraries" at colleges ?

Hey, pop the back on yer laptop or tablet. "The Code" can't
even be seen and then there are all those damned chips and
wires and crap - and it all has to work together to yield
an actual "laptop". Winders is NOT a computer.

Give up the religion - it's just manipulative crap from
the Stupid Ages.

On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 17:38:55 -0400
"68hx.1806" <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:

> Give up the religion - it's just manipulative crap from
> the Stupid Ages.
The kingdom of God lies within.

Christ despised the Pharisees anyway.

On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 17:38:55 -0400
"68hx.1806" <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:

> On 4/21/24 5:11 PM, Little@man.Ball wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 16:54:41 -0400
> > "68hx.1806" <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/21/24 3:23 PM, Little@man.Ball wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 18:36:44 +0000
> >>> Mitchell Holman <dalmationstation@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "Little@man.Ball" <suck@ra.mentos> wrote in
> >>>> news:20240421100248.2b430c66@ 234567aaa:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 09:30:09 +1000
> >>>>> Maximus <gladiator@colosseum.rome> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> if you believe Noah's Ark really happened or is even possible
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If not, you're in denial:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://arkencounter.com/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ark Encounter features a full-size Noah’s Ark, built according
> >>>>> to the dimensions given in the Bible. Spanning 510 feet long,
> >>>>> 85 feet wide, and 51 feet high, this modern engineering marvel
> >>>>> amazes visitors young and old.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Known land animal species > >>>>
> >>>> Insects: 1 million+ species
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Takes about 7 species to reboot ALL the DNA - seriously, dumb
> >>> fuck!
> >>
> >> Um ... better take a few bio night-courses.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Better know that God has a full DNA set ready to deploy on the
> > landing site.
>
> Takes a lot more than DNA ... bodies are SYSTEMS and DNA
> is only ONE working part.

Do you not think engineering a woman from a man's ribs portends
similar in future?

On 22/04/2024 7:54 am, Little@man.Ball wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 17:38:55 -0400
> "68hx.1806" <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
>
>> Give up the religion - it's just manipulative crap from
>> the Stupid Ages.
>
> The kingdom of God lies within.
>
> Christ despised the Pharisees anyway.

No He didn't. He isn't like you!

If you want to look into His heart, look into this...

Luke 13:34  O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and
stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered
thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings,
and ye would not!

He died for them too!

Luke 23:34  Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not
what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

On 4/21/24 5:54 PM, Little@man.Ball wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 17:38:55 -0400
> "68hx.1806" <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
>
>> Give up the religion - it's just manipulative crap from
>> the Stupid Ages.
>
> The kingdom of God lies within.

No gods, no kingdoms, no 'divine will' ... nada.

On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 18:16:56 -0400
"68hx.1806" <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:

> On 4/21/24 5:54 PM, Little@man.Ball wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 17:38:55 -0400
> > "68hx.1806" <68hx.1805@g5t8x.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Give up the religion - it's just manipulative crap from
> >> the Stupid Ages.
> >
> > The kingdom of God lies within.
>
> No gods, no kingdoms, no 'divine will' ... nada.
>
>

And we just imagined ourselves into existence - no Nephilim, Annunaki,
etc...

You dolthead.

Dawn Flood wrote:
> On 4/20/2024 1:40 PM, Lil-man-ball wrote:
>> On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 18:20:57 +0000
>> Mitchell Holman <dalmationstation@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> All arguments with all Christians
>>> eventually boil down to "you just have
>>> to have faith".
>>
>> All arguments with secular demons come down to - we have no faith.
>>
>
> This is false.  I have faith that the laws of nature will continue this
> afternoon and into tomorrow & beyond, but unlike religious faith, my
> faith is falsifiable.  It is possible that beginning tomorrow that
> apples may start rising up from the ground, but until then, the
> description of the physical world given by modern science at least
> implies "almost surely" that such will *not* happen.
>
> Dawn

not to you anyway