On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 7:00:26 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 3:43:20 PM UTC-8, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:21:48 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >They just happen to be lines that light travels down.
> > Perhaps light pipe? That was used at one time.
> > >They just happen to be what the phone company technicians call them.
> > Methinks otherwise:
> >
> > TIA Glossary of Telecommunications Terms:
> > <https://standards.tiaonline.org/resources/telecom-glossary>
> > "Sorry, we could not find this light line."
> >
> > ATT. This page provides an alphabetical list of common terms,
> > abbreviations, and acronyms used in AT&T eMaintenance.
> > <https://www.cnm.att.com/tmw-docs/help/aotsgloss.html>
> > Nothing found.
> >
> > AT&T Language, Acronyms, and Telephony Talk (With Photos)
> > <https://turbofuture.com/industrial/ATT-language-accronyms-and-telephony-talk>
> > Nothing found.
> >
> > Google does find a number of "light line" definitions, none of which
> > have anything to do with telecommunciations or data communications:
> > <https://www.google.com/search?q=%22light+line%22>
> >
> > Just for fun:
> > <https://www.dictionary.com/browse/light-line>
> > noun Nautical.
> > "the line or level to which a ship or boat sinks when fully supplied
> > with fuel and ballast but without cargo."
> >
> > If all else fails, you could take the easy way out and simply declare
> > that it was a spelling error.
> > >They just happen to be what my house is connected to the Internet on.
> > Let's see who offers fiber in San Leandro:
> > <https://broadbandnow.com/California/San-Leandro>
> > Looks like AT&T, Xfinity(Comcast), and Viasat. Viasat is satellite
> > internet, so they're not your ISP. Xfinity offers business class
> > fiber. For consumers, they offer "fiber only" service (also known as
> > FTTH (fiber to the home). Mostly, they offer FTTP (fiber to the pole)
> > service. The BroadbandNow site shows that Xfinity only offers coax in
> > San Leandro, but that might be out of date. That leaves AT&T, which
> > amazingly does offer four fiber service levels:
> > <https://broadbandnow.com/ATT-deals>
> > Congratulations. You passed the fiber fact check.
> >
> > Now, all you need to do for a perfect score is provide a vendor,
> > explanation, or retraction for how "light lines" are used to test
> > cables.
> I love that you tell me what ATT technicians call light lines by "proving it" with an ATT document. Not many people are that bright aside from you, Flunky, Little John and the penguin.
>
So now two official ATT documents which notably do not list the term "light line" is no proof that "light line" is not a common term used by ATT.
Post any link that shows the term "light line" is common usage for fiber optic. Put up or shut the fuck up tommy.

On 1/20/2022 9:52 PM, sms wrote:
> On 1/20/2022 4:40 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST),
>> "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have missed
>>> that.
>>
>> Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past. Photo
>> of the
>> diploma:
>> <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
>> Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was
>> governor of
>> California.
>
> Too bad your diploma was signed by one of the worst
> presidents in U.S. history, though it was before he was
> president so that's okay.
>
> Amusingly, my wife's UC diploma, my daughter's UC diploma,
> and my son's CSU diploma, were all signed by the same
> governor, Jerry Brown, over a 30+ year span.

We have a method to determine effectiveness/popularity of an
administration's policies out in the real world (as opposed
to promises and theory):

https://www.britannica.com/event/United-States-presidential-election-of-1984

"Reagan won 49 states en route to amassing 525 electoral
votes to Mondale’s 13—one of the biggest landslides in U.S.
election history. "

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 5:33:04 PM UTC-8, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:00:24 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I love that you tell me what ATT technicians call light lines by "proving it" with an ATT document.
> That's true. Using an AT&T glossary to indicate the terms that AT&T
> techs use probably has a few problems. That's because AT&T outsources
> almost all it's consumer installation labor to various indpendent
> contractors. Same with Comcast and many other ISP's.
> <https://cwa-union.org/sites/default/files/20201005attsubcontractorreport..pdf>
>
> Also, please note that my discovering that AT&T provides fiber service
> to the San Leandro area does not necessarily indicate that you have
> AT&T service or AT&T fiber.
>
> Have you found anything yet explaining how PWM is used in cable
> testing?

Perhaps you have a difficult time reading your own citations which showed that time domain reflectometer is a form of using PWM for testing cables. Why would you cite that without actually reading it? Or is it simply that you didn't understand that the pulse width has to be changed for longer and/or more resistive wire?

On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 5:41:18 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/20/2022 7:02 PM, John B. wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:40:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have missed that.
> >>
> >> Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past. Photo of the
> >> diploma:
> >> <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
> >> Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was governor of
> >> California.
> >
> > Ah well, Jeff - many, Tommy - zero. So Jeff wins by a landslide (:-)
> > That is, unless Tommy can PROVE voter fraud (:-)
> >
> How about video of a felony in progress and telephone
> location data which matches?
>
> Last September first reports:
> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-video-shows-traffickers-dumping-thousands-of-ballots-in-georgia-drop-boxes-in-middle-of-the-night/
>
> Follow up this month:
> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-georgia-investigating-alleged-illegal-ballot-harvesting-in-2020-election/
>
> Then there's Pennsylvania with statutory and constitutional
> violations.
>
> Also Wisconsin, where the nearby Dane County Clerk ran
> television ads to brag about violating the statute on ballot
> harvesting.
>
> Judge Salas, in NJ, who was scheduled to hear a case
> involving Jeffrey Epstein, suffered the loss of her son,
> shot dead in her doorway. The shooter also conveniently
> 'committed suicide'. Once that message was heard, clearly,
> no judge allowed any election fraud evidence or testimony
> into any court record. Zip, nada, nothing.
>
> Not one case was heard, deliberated, decided. Every ruling
> was procedural.

Unfortunately the term "ballot harvesting" indicates that those were real ballots from real people and not the completely fraudulent sources they are. The Georgia law only states that these people may not gather honest ballots and post them for people. This in fact was the method used to commit election fraud. On election night Trump was the overwhelming clear winner and over the next week ballots started pouring in strangely only for Biden. If these were simply ballots received late via the USPS, there would have been Trump votes among them. Audits in several swing states have shown that entire blocks of Republican votes had disappeared and entire blocks of Democrat votes that had no legal source had been added.

That the Democrats committed election fraud could not be more clearly seen.

On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 5:44:03 PM UTC-8, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 08:02:34 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:40:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >><funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have missed that.
> >>
> >>Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past. Photo of the
> >>diploma:
> >><http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
> >>Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was governor of
> >>California.
> >
> >Ah well, Jeff - many, Tommy - zero. So Jeff wins by a landslide (:-)
> >That is, unless Tommy can PROVE voter fraud (:-)
> Unfortunately, fake diplomas are a real problem.
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=fake+diploma&tbm=isch>
>
> I was thinking that maybe a transcript would help, but even those have
> been faked:
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=fake+transcript&tbm=isch>
> I could have an official transcript sent directly from the college to
> Tom:
> <https://www.cpp.edu/registrar/transcripts/index.shtml>
> However, there's little to stop him declaring it a fake or pretending
> he never received it.
>
> It might be "trust, but verify", but the verify part is slowly
> becoming non-functional.
>
> Also, please don't mention "landslide". I have a mess on the hillside
> above my house that is threatening to turn into a real landslide.

Let me get this straight - although I have publicly stated many, many times that I do not have any college and needed none as proven by my positions and advancement in some of the world's leading companies in medical and laboratory instruments, YOU are talking about fake transcripts? Or is that some sort of claim that my graduate degree from the Marine School of Navigation is under question? In which case - what in the hell do I care? It was obtained to race sailboats in blue water and I did.

You are an extremely peculiar duck. The only thing that you've proven is that your own claims could be questioned. I only questioned your claims about what your previous jobs were and it turned out that I misremembered your claims. I think it would be better if you stopped trying to prove me wrong by proving me right.

On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 6:46:27 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/20/2022 8:02 PM, John B. wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 19:41:10 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On 1/20/2022 7:02 PM, John B. wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:40:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have missed that.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past. Photo of the
> >>>> diploma:
> >>>> <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
> >>>> Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was governor of
> >>>> California.
> >>>
> >>> Ah well, Jeff - many, Tommy - zero. So Jeff wins by a landslide (:-)
> >>> That is, unless Tommy can PROVE voter fraud (:-)
> >>>
> >>
> >> How about video of a felony in progress and telephone
> >> location data which matches?
> >>
> >> Last September first reports:
> >> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-video-shows-traffickers-dumping-thousands-of-ballots-in-georgia-drop-boxes-in-middle-of-the-night/
> >>
> >> Follow up this month:
> >> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-georgia-investigating-alleged-illegal-ballot-harvesting-in-2020-election/
> >>
> >> Then there's Pennsylvania with statutory and constitutional
> >> violations.
> >>
> >> Also Wisconsin, where the nearby Dane County Clerk ran
> >> television ads to brag about violating the statute on ballot
> >> harvesting.
> >>
> >> Judge Salas, in NJ, who was scheduled to hear a case
> >> involving Jeffrey Epstein, suffered the loss of her son,
> >> shot dead in her doorway. The shooter also conveniently
> >> 'committed suicide'. Once that message was heard, clearly,
> >> no judge allowed any election fraud evidence or testimony
> >> into any court record. Zip, nada, nothing.
> >>
> >> Not one case was heard, deliberated, decided. Every ruling
> >> was procedural.
> >
> > I think I missed that one.
> > I read that Jeffrey Epstein, was:
> > "On June 30, 2008, after Epstein pleaded guilty to a state charge (one
> > of two) of procuring for prostitution a girl below age 18,[117] he was
> > sentenced to 18 months in prison."
> >
> > How does this relate to voter fraud court cases?
> >
> > And Den Hollander, the guy that shot the Judge's son had appeared
> > before Salas in connection with a lawsuit he brought challenging the
> > military's male-only draft.
> >
> Mr Epstein served no time in that 2008 case.
>
> Recent documents released by US BOP surfaced this week:
> https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/01/20/didnt-kill-himself-the-first-time-did-epstein-really-attempt-suicide/
>
> Mr Epstein is (was?)very well connected to the political
> classes and enjoyed spectacular interference in his various
> legal travails. I assumed everyone knew that.

The series of event leading up to the murder of Jeffrey Epstein were simply too complex to have occurred by accident allowing a suicide. I have a cousin that was a guard at San Quinton and that is also his opinion.

On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 10:26:43 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 5:33:04 PM UTC-8, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:00:24 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I love that you tell me what ATT technicians call light lines by "proving it" with an ATT document.
> > That's true. Using an AT&T glossary to indicate the terms that AT&T
> > techs use probably has a few problems. That's because AT&T outsources
> > almost all it's consumer installation labor to various indpendent
> > contractors. Same with Comcast and many other ISP's.
> > <https://cwa-union.org/sites/default/files/20201005attsubcontractorreport.pdf>
> >
> > Also, please note that my discovering that AT&T provides fiber service
> > to the San Leandro area does not necessarily indicate that you have
> > AT&T service or AT&T fiber.
> >
> > Have you found anything yet explaining how PWM is used in cable
> > testing?
>
> Perhaps you have a difficult time reading your own citations which showed that time domain reflectometer is a form of using PWM for testing cables.

It doesn't say that. Nothing Jeff listed notes PWM as an aspect of cable testing. In fact, nothing, he, I, or you have listed refers to PWM as any aspect of testing cables.

> Why would you cite that without actually reading it?

That's your usual failure, not Jeff's.

> Or is it simply that you didn't understand that the pulse width has to be changed for longer and/or more resistive wire?

Changing the pulse width of a TDR pulse is _not_ PWM. You do understand that the M in PWM means 'modulation', right? Changing a static pulse width is not 'modulation'.

On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 7:52:33 PM UTC-8, sms wrote:
> On 1/20/2022 4:40 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> > <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have missed that.
> >
> > Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past. Photo of the
> > diploma:
> > <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
> > Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was governor of
> > California.
> Too bad your diploma was signed by one of the worst presidents in U.S.
> history, though it was before he was president so that's okay.
>
> Amusingly, my wife's UC diploma, my daughter's UC diploma, and my son's
> CSU diploma, were all signed by the same governor, Jerry Brown, over a
> 30+ year span.
If there is one things that truly validates a diploma it surely isn't the knowledge it suggests, but the governor who signed it. This is plainly why no one wants you in any public office ever again.

On 1/20/2022 8:41 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/20/2022 7:02 PM, John B. wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:40:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have missed that.
>>>
>>> Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past.  Photo of the
>>> diploma:
>>> <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
>>> Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was governor of
>>> California.
>>
>> Ah well, Jeff - many, Tommy - zero. So Jeff wins by a landslide (:-)
>> That is, unless Tommy can PROVE voter fraud (:-)
>>
>
> How about video of a felony in progress and telephone location data
> which matches?
>
> Last September first reports:
> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-video-shows-traffickers-dumping-thousands-of-ballots-in-georgia-drop-boxes-in-middle-of-the-night/
>
>
> Follow up this month:
> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-georgia-investigating-alleged-illegal-ballot-harvesting-in-2020-election/
>
>
> Then there's Pennsylvania with statutory and constitutional violations.
>
> Also Wisconsin, where the nearby Dane County Clerk ran television ads to
> brag about violating the statute on ballot harvesting.
>
> Judge Salas, in NJ, who was scheduled to hear a case involving Jeffrey
> Epstein, suffered the loss of her son, shot dead in her doorway. The
> shooter also conveniently 'committed suicide'. Once that message was
> heard, clearly, no judge allowed any election fraud evidence or
> testimony into any court record. Zip, nada, nothing.
>
> Not one case was heard, deliberated, decided. Every ruling was procedural.

Astonishing. Millions and millions of allegations across so many states!
So many audits, so many recounts, so many Trumpian attempts to prove and
to prosecute.

Yet so many Republican judges and officials and their hirees (or their
"cyber ninjas") all the way up to his vice president saying, in effect,
"Bullshit."

How could they _all_ have been fooled into thinking Trump lost the
election?

Or is it possible, just possible, that he actually did?

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 8:00:03 PM UTC-8, sms wrote:
> On 1/20/2022 5:41 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> > On 1/20/2022 7:02 PM, John B. wrote:
> >> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:40:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have missed that.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past. Photo of the
> >>> diploma:
> >>> <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
> >>> Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was governor of
> >>> California.
> >>
> >> Ah well, Jeff - many, Tommy - zero. So Jeff wins by a landslide (:-)
> >> That is, unless Tommy can PROVE voter fraud (:-)
> >>
> >
> > How about video of a felony in progress and telephone location data
> > which matches?
> >
> > Last September first reports:
> > https://www.worldtribune.com/report-video-shows-traffickers-dumping-thousands-of-ballots-in-georgia-drop-boxes-in-middle-of-the-night/
> >
> >
> > Follow up this month:
> > https://www.worldtribune.com/report-georgia-investigating-alleged-illegal-ballot-harvesting-in-2020-election/
> You do your credibility no good by quoting worldtribune.com

So according to Scharf, the Russian pipeline, the statement by Biden giving Russia the go ahead to invade the Ukraine, the panic'd flight from Afghanistan leaving behind $30 Billion in our most advanced weaponry, tanks, missiles etc. and the destruction of the middle class by the mass printing of money is a success story.

Nothing like reading a Scharf posting to know why the Democrats will lose by such a margin this November that they probably will never recover.

On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 3:14:48 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 5:19:19 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 11:03:48 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > Poor little baby cannot figure it out for himself so he needs google references from someone else to show him how.
> > > Sure tommy. This is your golden opportunity. I'm claiming you're full of shit and you have no proof. Prove me wrong. Prove to everyone here how much smarter you are than everyone else by posting something (anything) that backs up your claim. You thought you could do that with links about covid deaths (which turned out to be wrong). Why would now be any different? Nope, You're such an idiot you didn't even catch the mistake I made in my last post. No, I'm not going to point it out, you're the genius who claims PWM is used for cable testing, it should be obvious to you.
> > > > Real talent on show there Flunky.
> > > Yup, like the talent that you can't provide a link to prove your claim? I've backed up my claim repeatedly in this discussion. All you've done is:
> > > > Because a little pansy like you has such a difficult time understanding what "light line" means
> > > It doesn't mean anything. You made it up. You're lying and are too much of a coward to admit it, or you would have provided a link to support it..
> > > > doesn't make it anything other than what it is.
> > > Correct. It's a fabrication on your part. You made it up, thinking it was true, and now that you can't back up your claim, you resort to
> > > " (predicted response, ad hominem + change of subject)."
> > > > Ahh, the courage of anonymity and distance. You are so obviously proud of your ignorance.
> > > QED.
> > > Prove me wrong, you impotent half-wit. Ignorance is claiming PWM is used for cable testing and 'light lines' = fiber optics. Only an absolute moron with the technical background of a high school drop out that got kicked out of the air force would make such a claim, then stick by it with nothing more than ad hominems for support, and be proud of that behaviour. Your mother must have been incredibly disappointed in how much of an absolute loser you turned out to be, and if she wasn't she was a pretty shitty mother.. The sad thing here, is that you've somehow deluded yourself into actually believing PWM is used for cable testing and 'light lines' = fiber optics.. It's no wonder you were fired from every job you've ever had. You're an absolute idiot with the moral character of a pedophile priest. Either put up, or shut the fuck up.
> >
> > I have no intentions of designing a PWM wire tester and waste any more time on you.
> Now tommy claims he was talking about TDR all the time - liar. Anyway, I didn't ask you to design one, I asked for a simple link - just one link - any link - that discusses using PWM in any context for testing cables. Besides that, If your clam was true that PWM is used for cable testing, You wouldn't have to design one, you could simple point to a link showing a test set-up for it.
> > You aren't even a technician and you're telling an engineer that he doesn't know what he's talking about.
> I'm an engineer, you're not.
> > If you had ANY reputable experience at all you could at least understand how that would work.
> I have no doubt that if someone had designed a PWM cable tester, I'd be able to figure out how it works. I can even understand how a PWM tester can be used to verify an adequate cable connection, but a PWM tester is _not_ used to test cables.
> > You and Jeff can agree with each other than you can in some manner use a megger to check a mile of wire for shorts or opens.
> And you can't?
> >
> > Flunky already uses a rather stupid comments. After he cites Time Domaine Reflectometry which is really what I was speaking of
> No, tommy. You _never_ spoke of TDR. You _only_ spoke of PWM. Jeff and I have both mentioned TDR several times, and in every case you insisted you were talking about PWM.
> > since it CAN use PWM to give additional information
> No, tommy, TDR testers do _not_ use PWM. Changing the pulse width of a TDR signal is a common feature for most TDR testers, but changing the width of a TDR pulse is not PWM, it's changing the width of the TDR pulse - two very different things. The only time you mentioned TDR was to claim that TDR couldn't be used for testing fiber optic cables, and you were wrong about that too.
> > like the idiot he is he talks about PWM motor drives.
> and like the idiot hes is, tommy seems to dismiss what is probably the major application of PWM in order to attempt to dig himself out of his hole (and failing badly).
> > Even in that Fluke comment it describes modification of waveforms due to signal input and cable length but stupid doesn't understand anything that means.
> Because a faulty cable or one that has too much LC vector can roll off the transient (rise time) and limit the duration of the positive pulswidth, or there might be a voltage increase due to VSWR from an impedance mismatch in higher frequency applications. The PWM tester doesn't give you that information. it only provides a PWM signal. You need an oscilloscope or some other piece of signal analysis equipment to evaluate the signal, or as is the case in that article a Motor Drive Analyzer (MDA), listed under their oscilloscopes.
> > Flunky and his butt buddy can't even understand that you use PWM to achieve Time Domaine Reflectometry since that pulse width of necessity changes with the length and other particulars of the wires being tested.
> BZZZZT. Wrong again. TDR does _not_ use PWM. TDR is a signal pulse test technique. Changing the width of a TDR pulse is not PWM, it's changing the width of the TDR pulse - two very different things.
> > While you two are sucking each other off remember that you're the one that looked directly at this and couldn't see the fucking functions I was talking about: https://hvtechnologies.com/the-basics-of-time-domain-reflectometry-tdr/
> haha....this is good. He's been claiming all along that PWM is used to test cables, then sends me a link on TDR.
> OK sparky, can you point to any place in that article that mentions PWM, or even manipulating pulse width?
> No, you can't.
> Why?
> It isn't there.
> Why?
> Because PWM isn't used to test cables.
>
> Still batting .000 sparky.

As usual you cannot bare to have the truth shoved in your face. You are not an Engineer or you could show a LinkedIn page. You have not because you are a liar as always. I NEVER claimed that I was talking about TDR all the time. I was talking about PWM which you know absolutely nothing about or you would be able to see that TDR is ONE case of PWM used to test wiring. But go ahead and pretend differently after I cited a case that explained it.

What's it feel like to flunk out yet again?

On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 7:48:16 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 10:26:43 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 5:33:04 PM UTC-8, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:00:24 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> > > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >I love that you tell me what ATT technicians call light lines by "proving it" with an ATT document.
> > > That's true. Using an AT&T glossary to indicate the terms that AT&T
> > > techs use probably has a few problems. That's because AT&T outsources
> > > almost all it's consumer installation labor to various indpendent
> > > contractors. Same with Comcast and many other ISP's.
> > > <https://cwa-union.org/sites/default/files/20201005attsubcontractorreport.pdf>
> > >
> > > Also, please note that my discovering that AT&T provides fiber service
> > > to the San Leandro area does not necessarily indicate that you have
> > > AT&T service or AT&T fiber.
> > >
> > > Have you found anything yet explaining how PWM is used in cable
> > > testing?
> >
> > Perhaps you have a difficult time reading your own citations which showed that time domain reflectometer is a form of using PWM for testing cables..
> It doesn't say that. Nothing Jeff listed notes PWM as an aspect of cable testing. In fact, nothing, he, I, or you have listed refers to PWM as any aspect of testing cables.
> > Why would you cite that without actually reading it?
> That's your usual failure, not Jeff's.
> > Or is it simply that you didn't understand that the pulse width has to be changed for longer and/or more resistive wire?
> Changing the pulse width of a TDR pulse is _not_ PWM. You do understand that the M in PWM means 'modulation', right? Changing a static pulse width is not 'modulation'.

And your demonstration proving that you aren't an engineer of any sort and aren't even a technician is shown by the fact that you believe that PWM has to be active and not static. As I said, you modulate the pulse width according to the line length and type. Silly bird, Trix are for Kids.

On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 7:49:57 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 1/20/2022 8:41 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> > On 1/20/2022 7:02 PM, John B. wrote:
> >> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:40:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have missed that.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past. Photo of the
> >>> diploma:
> >>> <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
> >>> Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was governor of
> >>> California.
> >>
> >> Ah well, Jeff - many, Tommy - zero. So Jeff wins by a landslide (:-)
> >> That is, unless Tommy can PROVE voter fraud (:-)
> >>
> >
> > How about video of a felony in progress and telephone location data
> > which matches?
> >
> > Last September first reports:
> > https://www.worldtribune.com/report-video-shows-traffickers-dumping-thousands-of-ballots-in-georgia-drop-boxes-in-middle-of-the-night/
> >
> >
> > Follow up this month:
> > https://www.worldtribune.com/report-georgia-investigating-alleged-illegal-ballot-harvesting-in-2020-election/
> >
> >
> > Then there's Pennsylvania with statutory and constitutional violations.
> >
> > Also Wisconsin, where the nearby Dane County Clerk ran television ads to
> > brag about violating the statute on ballot harvesting.
> >
> > Judge Salas, in NJ, who was scheduled to hear a case involving Jeffrey
> > Epstein, suffered the loss of her son, shot dead in her doorway. The
> > shooter also conveniently 'committed suicide'. Once that message was
> > heard, clearly, no judge allowed any election fraud evidence or
> > testimony into any court record. Zip, nada, nothing.
> >
> > Not one case was heard, deliberated, decided. Every ruling was procedural.
> Astonishing. Millions and millions of allegations across so many states!
> So many audits, so many recounts, so many Trumpian attempts to prove and
> to prosecute.
>
> Yet so many Republican judges and officials and their hirees (or their
> "cyber ninjas") all the way up to his vice president saying, in effect,
> "Bullshit."
>
> How could they _all_ have been fooled into thinking Trump lost the
> election?
>
> Or is it possible, just possible, that he actually did?

Is there some reason you believe that you can somehow gain any credit by telling us that judges didn't stop anything when there were so few Republican judges in swing state where the worst cases of election fraud occurred and that judges as a whole are very reluctant to interfere in election results?

With every posting you haters slip further and further from reality. It must be the train wreck of Biden that you find difficulty denying since he demonstrates it so plainly that even the Slime Stream Media has to admit that there is something wrong with him and that he should not be in office.

On 1/21/2022 6:35 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 8:30:35 PM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 1/20/2022 4:39 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>
>>> This all started with him and Frank claiming that I wasn't an engineer because I don't have a degree.
>> Tom, I worked with some brilliant guys who did not have an engineering
>> degree. There's no shame in that; but they did not claim to be qualified
>> engineers.
>>
>> The one guy I once worked with who falsely claimed to be an engineer
>> exhibited behavior similar to yours. He hid evidence of his mistakes,
>> took credit for work done by others, lied freely, etc. (BTW, he actually
>> _did_ have the nickname "Sparky." It was given to him by an electrician
>> who watched him nearly electrocute himself.)
>
> LOL!!!!

Yes. That "Sparky" actually got in an argument with me about the
building's wiring - whether it was the white or black wire that was hot.

I could tell other stories, but I'd better stop.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 10:57:24 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 3:14:48 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:

> > BZZZZT. Wrong again. TDR does _not_ use PWM. TDR is a signal pulse test technique. Changing the width of a TDR pulse is not PWM, it's changing the width of the TDR pulse - two very different things.
> > > While you two are sucking each other off remember that you're the one that looked directly at this and couldn't see the fucking functions I was talking about: https://hvtechnologies.com/the-basics-of-time-domain-reflectometry-tdr/
> > haha....this is good. He's been claiming all along that PWM is used to test cables, then sends me a link on TDR.
> > OK sparky, can you point to any place in that article that mentions PWM, or even manipulating pulse width?
> > No, you can't.
> > Why?
> > It isn't there.
> > Why?
> > Because PWM isn't used to test cables.
> >
> > Still batting .000 sparky.
> As usual you cannot bare to have the truth shoved in your face. You are not an Engineer or you could show a LinkedIn page.

There's no way I would trust you with personal information.

> You have not because you are a liar as always. I NEVER claimed that I was talking about TDR all the time. I was talking about PWM

Yeah, stupid, that what I said.

> which you know absolutely nothing about or you would be able to see that TDR is ONE case of PWM used to test wiring.
> But go ahead and pretend differently after I cited a case that explained it.

No, you didn't. You've posted nothing that shows PWM is used to test cables, only made claims.

> What's it feel like to flunk out yet again?

I don't know, you tell us, you're the one that flunked out of high school.

On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 11:00:25 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 7:48:16 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 10:26:43 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 5:33:04 PM UTC-8, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:00:24 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> > > > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I love that you tell me what ATT technicians call light lines by "proving it" with an ATT document.
> > > > That's true. Using an AT&T glossary to indicate the terms that AT&T
> > > > techs use probably has a few problems. That's because AT&T outsources
> > > > almost all it's consumer installation labor to various indpendent
> > > > contractors. Same with Comcast and many other ISP's.
> > > > <https://cwa-union.org/sites/default/files/20201005attsubcontractorreport.pdf>
> > > >
> > > > Also, please note that my discovering that AT&T provides fiber service
> > > > to the San Leandro area does not necessarily indicate that you have
> > > > AT&T service or AT&T fiber.
> > > >
> > > > Have you found anything yet explaining how PWM is used in cable
> > > > testing?
> > >
> > > Perhaps you have a difficult time reading your own citations which showed that time domain reflectometer is a form of using PWM for testing cables.
> > It doesn't say that. Nothing Jeff listed notes PWM as an aspect of cable testing. In fact, nothing, he, I, or you have listed refers to PWM as any aspect of testing cables.
> > > Why would you cite that without actually reading it?
> > That's your usual failure, not Jeff's.
> > > Or is it simply that you didn't understand that the pulse width has to be changed for longer and/or more resistive wire?
> > Changing the pulse width of a TDR pulse is _not_ PWM. You do understand that the M in PWM means 'modulation', right? Changing a static pulse width is not 'modulation'.
>
> And your demonstration proving that you aren't an engineer of any sort and aren't even a technician is shown by the fact that you believe that PWM has to be active and not static.

Yes, PWM is strictly a dynamic function. That's the whole point, to _modulate_ the pulse width.

> As I said, you modulate the pulse width according to the line length and type.

No, you change a static setting. This is not modulation.

> Silly bird, Trix are for Kids.

Go back to your cereal bowl, sparky.

On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 11:10:28 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 1/21/2022 6:35 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 8:30:35 PM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> >> On 1/20/2022 4:39 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>>
> >>> This all started with him and Frank claiming that I wasn't an engineer because I don't have a degree.
> >> Tom, I worked with some brilliant guys who did not have an engineering
> >> degree. There's no shame in that; but they did not claim to be qualified
> >> engineers.
> >>
> >> The one guy I once worked with who falsely claimed to be an engineer
> >> exhibited behavior similar to yours. He hid evidence of his mistakes,
> >> took credit for work done by others, lied freely, etc. (BTW, he actually
> >> _did_ have the nickname "Sparky." It was given to him by an electrician
> >> who watched him nearly electrocute himself.)
> >
> > LOL!!!!
>
> Yes. That "Sparky" actually got in an argument with me about the
> building's wiring - whether it was the white or black wire that was hot.

Are you sure his name wasn't Tom? That behaviour sounds to amazingly similar to be a simple coincidence.

>
> I could tell other stories, but I'd better stop.
>
> --
> - Frank Krygowski

On 1/21/2022 9:49 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 1/20/2022 8:41 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 1/20/2022 7:02 PM, John B. wrote:
>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:40:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
>>> <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST),
>>>> "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>>> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have
>>>>> missed that.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past.Â
>>>> Photo of the
>>>> diploma:
>>>> <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
>>>> Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was
>>>> governor of
>>>> California.
>>>
>>> Ah well, Jeff - many, Tommy - zero. So Jeff wins by a
>>> landslide (:-)
>>> That is, unless Tommy can PROVE voter fraud (:-)
>>>
>>
>> How about video of a felony in progress and telephone
>> location data which matches?
>>
>> Last September first reports:
>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-video-shows-traffickers-dumping-thousands-of-ballots-in-georgia-drop-boxes-in-middle-of-the-night/
>>
>>
>> Follow up this month:
>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-georgia-investigating-alleged-illegal-ballot-harvesting-in-2020-election/
>>
>>
>> Then there's Pennsylvania with statutory and
>> constitutional violations.
>>
>> Also Wisconsin, where the nearby Dane County Clerk ran
>> television ads to brag about violating the statute on
>> ballot harvesting.
>>
>> Judge Salas, in NJ, who was scheduled to hear a case
>> involving Jeffrey Epstein, suffered the loss of her son,
>> shot dead in her doorway. The shooter also conveniently
>> 'committed suicide'. Once that message was heard, clearly,
>> no judge allowed any election fraud evidence or testimony
>> into any court record. Zip, nada, nothing.
>>
>> Not one case was heard, deliberated, decided. Every ruling
>> was procedural.
>
> Astonishing. Millions and millions of allegations across so
> many states! So many audits, so many recounts, so many
> Trumpian attempts to prove and to prosecute.
>
> Yet so many Republican judges and officials and their hirees
> (or their "cyber ninjas") all the way up to his vice
> president saying, in effect, "Bullshit."
>
> How could they _all_ have been fooled into thinking Trump
> lost the election?
>
> Or is it possible, just possible, that he actually did?
>
>

Maybe, maybe not.
There's reasonable doubt and not one case was heard, no
testimony, no evidence. If it were clear, one might expect a
public record, no?

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 1/21/2022 9:53 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 8:00:03 PM UTC-8, sms wrote:
>> On 1/20/2022 5:41 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 1/20/2022 7:02 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:40:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have missed that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past. Photo of the
>>>>> diploma:
>>>>> <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
>>>>> Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was governor of
>>>>> California.
>>>>
>>>> Ah well, Jeff - many, Tommy - zero. So Jeff wins by a landslide (:-)
>>>> That is, unless Tommy can PROVE voter fraud (:-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> How about video of a felony in progress and telephone location data
>>> which matches?
>>>
>>> Last September first reports:
>>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-video-shows-traffickers-dumping-thousands-of-ballots-in-georgia-drop-boxes-in-middle-of-the-night/
>>>
>>>
>>> Follow up this month:
>>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-georgia-investigating-alleged-illegal-ballot-harvesting-in-2020-election/
>> You do your credibility no good by quoting worldtribune.com
>
> So according to Scharf, the Russian pipeline, the statement by Biden giving Russia the go ahead to invade the Ukraine, the panic'd flight from Afghanistan leaving behind $30 Billion in our most advanced weaponry, tanks, missiles etc. and the destruction of the middle class by the mass printing of money is a success story.
>
> Nothing like reading a Scharf posting to know why the Democrats will lose by such a margin this November that they probably will never recover.
>

A lot of what I read is paywall and a lot of what I hear is
radio without transcripts. I seek web links for my replies
on RBT and, unlike Mr Liebermann, have never spent an hour
researching links.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 1/21/2022 1:04 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/21/2022 9:49 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 1/20/2022 8:41 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 1/20/2022 7:02 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:40:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
>>>> <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST),
>>>>> "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>>>> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have
>>>>>> missed that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past.Â
>>>>> Photo of the
>>>>> diploma:
>>>>> <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
>>>>> Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was
>>>>> governor of
>>>>> California.
>>>>
>>>> Ah well, Jeff - many, Tommy - zero. So Jeff wins by a
>>>> landslide (:-)
>>>> That is, unless Tommy can PROVE voter fraud (:-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> How about video of a felony in progress and telephone
>>> location data which matches?
>>>
>>> Last September first reports:
>>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-video-shows-traffickers-dumping-thousands-of-ballots-in-georgia-drop-boxes-in-middle-of-the-night/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Follow up this month:
>>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-georgia-investigating-alleged-illegal-ballot-harvesting-in-2020-election/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Then there's Pennsylvania with statutory and
>>> constitutional violations.
>>>
>>> Also Wisconsin, where the nearby Dane County Clerk ran
>>> television ads to brag about violating the statute on
>>> ballot harvesting.
>>>
>>> Judge Salas, in NJ, who was scheduled to hear a case
>>> involving Jeffrey Epstein, suffered the loss of her son,
>>> shot dead in her doorway. The shooter also conveniently
>>> 'committed suicide'. Once that message was heard, clearly,
>>> no judge allowed any election fraud evidence or testimony
>>> into any court record. Zip, nada, nothing.
>>>
>>> Not one case was heard, deliberated, decided. Every ruling
>>> was procedural.
>>
>> Astonishing. Millions and millions of allegations across so
>> many states! So many audits, so many recounts, so many
>> Trumpian attempts to prove and to prosecute.
>>
>> Yet so many Republican judges and officials and their hirees
>> (or their "cyber ninjas") all the way up to his vice
>> president saying, in effect, "Bullshit."
>>
>> How could they _all_ have been fooled into thinking Trump
>> lost the election?
>>
>> Or is it possible, just possible, that he actually did?
>>
>>
>
> Maybe, maybe not.
> There's reasonable doubt and not one case was heard, no testimony, no
> evidence. If it were clear, one might expect a public record, no?

If it were as certain as Trumpsters proclaim, there _would_ have been
hearings, testimony and evidence.

Allusions and fantasy are all we see, followed by refutations. "Moon
landing was fake" has better evidence.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 10:06:48 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/21/2022 9:53 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 8:00:03 PM UTC-8, sms wrote:
> >> On 1/20/2022 5:41 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> >>> On 1/20/2022 7:02 PM, John B. wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:40:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >>>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have missed that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past. Photo of the
> >>>>> diploma:
> >>>>> <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
> >>>>> Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was governor of
> >>>>> California.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ah well, Jeff - many, Tommy - zero. So Jeff wins by a landslide (:-)
> >>>> That is, unless Tommy can PROVE voter fraud (:-)
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> How about video of a felony in progress and telephone location data
> >>> which matches?
> >>>
> >>> Last September first reports:
> >>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-video-shows-traffickers-dumping-thousands-of-ballots-in-georgia-drop-boxes-in-middle-of-the-night/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Follow up this month:
> >>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-georgia-investigating-alleged-illegal-ballot-harvesting-in-2020-election/
> >> You do your credibility no good by quoting worldtribune.com
> >
> > So according to Scharf, the Russian pipeline, the statement by Biden giving Russia the go ahead to invade the Ukraine, the panic'd flight from Afghanistan leaving behind $30 Billion in our most advanced weaponry, tanks, missiles etc. and the destruction of the middle class by the mass printing of money is a success story.
> >
> > Nothing like reading a Scharf posting to know why the Democrats will lose by such a margin this November that they probably will never recover.
> >
> A lot of what I read is paywall and a lot of what I hear is
> radio without transcripts. I seek web links for my replies
> on RBT and, unlike Mr Liebermann, have never spent an hour
> researching links.

One major problem with the Internet is that too much of it is controlled by the likes of Google, Facebook and Twitter who work overtime to "disappear" truth in order to subvert it. I have shown how to get the true numbers of those killed by covid-19. The latest number is 6,622 since February 1, 2020.. And since it is not actually CALLED covid-19 but rather an undefined category, it might not be covid-19 at all but respiratory deaths caused by snorting cocaine. With the present 800% growth in drug addition because of the open borders that isn't very far fetched.

But WHERE have you seen that on the Slime Stream Media? Even the right isn't any better. The left is claiming that we have 814,000+ deaths from covid-19 in order to support mass mailings of election ballots and commit election fraud. The Right is using those same preposterous numbers to claim that Biden has unsuccessfully controlled covid-19. This is proof positive that we absolutely must have short term limits and NO Congressional retirement benefits. Presently it only requires 3 terms in the House or one in the Senate to have full retirement may (which grows much faster than the wages of the Congress) and total paid medical. With benefits like this isn't it plain that you have people spending millions to obtain office?

This is similar to the fact that I said that I WATCHED Fauci on a press conference say that he had made $6 Million off of this pandemic. And since that would have been completely illegal and insider trading it suddenly disappeared off of Google and YouTube. But I did find a reference to it on DuckDuckGo and cited it here.

On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 11:03:37 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 1/21/2022 1:04 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> > On 1/21/2022 9:49 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> >> On 1/20/2022 8:41 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> >>> On 1/20/2022 7:02 PM, John B. wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:40:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
> >>>> <je...@cruzio.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST),
> >>>>> "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >>>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have
> >>>>>> missed that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past.Â
> >>>>> Photo of the
> >>>>> diploma:
> >>>>> <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
> >>>>> Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was
> >>>>> governor of
> >>>>> California.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ah well, Jeff - many, Tommy - zero. So Jeff wins by a
> >>>> landslide (:-)
> >>>> That is, unless Tommy can PROVE voter fraud (:-)
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> How about video of a felony in progress and telephone
> >>> location data which matches?
> >>>
> >>> Last September first reports:
> >>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-video-shows-traffickers-dumping-thousands-of-ballots-in-georgia-drop-boxes-in-middle-of-the-night/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Follow up this month:
> >>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-georgia-investigating-alleged-illegal-ballot-harvesting-in-2020-election/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Then there's Pennsylvania with statutory and
> >>> constitutional violations.
> >>>
> >>> Also Wisconsin, where the nearby Dane County Clerk ran
> >>> television ads to brag about violating the statute on
> >>> ballot harvesting.
> >>>
> >>> Judge Salas, in NJ, who was scheduled to hear a case
> >>> involving Jeffrey Epstein, suffered the loss of her son,
> >>> shot dead in her doorway. The shooter also conveniently
> >>> 'committed suicide'. Once that message was heard, clearly,
> >>> no judge allowed any election fraud evidence or testimony
> >>> into any court record. Zip, nada, nothing.
> >>>
> >>> Not one case was heard, deliberated, decided. Every ruling
> >>> was procedural.
> >>
> >> Astonishing. Millions and millions of allegations across so
> >> many states! So many audits, so many recounts, so many
> >> Trumpian attempts to prove and to prosecute.
> >>
> >> Yet so many Republican judges and officials and their hirees
> >> (or their "cyber ninjas") all the way up to his vice
> >> president saying, in effect, "Bullshit."
> >>
> >> How could they _all_ have been fooled into thinking Trump
> >> lost the election?
> >>
> >> Or is it possible, just possible, that he actually did?
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Maybe, maybe not.
> > There's reasonable doubt and not one case was heard, no testimony, no
> > evidence. If it were clear, one might expect a public record, no?
> If it were as certain as Trumpsters proclaim, there _would_ have been
> hearings, testimony and evidence.
>
> Allusions and fantasy are all we see, followed by refutations. "Moon
> landing was fake" has better evidence.

So as well as proving that you have been a very poor teacher, you have to prove that you don't know how government works and to what ends they will go to try and protect the publics faith in the election process. I have to say, if it came to a contest between you and fat Johnny, I would be hard pressed to chose the most ignorant.

On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 3:52:58 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 11:03:37 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > On 1/21/2022 1:04 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> > > On 1/21/2022 9:49 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > >> On 1/20/2022 8:41 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> > >>> On 1/20/2022 7:02 PM, John B. wrote:
> > >>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:40:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
> > >>>> <je...@cruzio.com>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST),
> > >>>>> "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> > >>>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have
> > >>>>>> missed that.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past.Â
> > >>>>> Photo of the
> > >>>>> diploma:
> > >>>>> <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
> > >>>>> Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was
> > >>>>> governor of
> > >>>>> California.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Ah well, Jeff - many, Tommy - zero. So Jeff wins by a
> > >>>> landslide (:-)
> > >>>> That is, unless Tommy can PROVE voter fraud (:-)
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> How about video of a felony in progress and telephone
> > >>> location data which matches?
> > >>>
> > >>> Last September first reports:
> > >>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-video-shows-traffickers-dumping-thousands-of-ballots-in-georgia-drop-boxes-in-middle-of-the-night/
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Follow up this month:
> > >>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-georgia-investigating-alleged-illegal-ballot-harvesting-in-2020-election/
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Then there's Pennsylvania with statutory and
> > >>> constitutional violations.
> > >>>
> > >>> Also Wisconsin, where the nearby Dane County Clerk ran
> > >>> television ads to brag about violating the statute on
> > >>> ballot harvesting.
> > >>>
> > >>> Judge Salas, in NJ, who was scheduled to hear a case
> > >>> involving Jeffrey Epstein, suffered the loss of her son,
> > >>> shot dead in her doorway. The shooter also conveniently
> > >>> 'committed suicide'. Once that message was heard, clearly,
> > >>> no judge allowed any election fraud evidence or testimony
> > >>> into any court record. Zip, nada, nothing.
> > >>>
> > >>> Not one case was heard, deliberated, decided. Every ruling
> > >>> was procedural.
> > >>
> > >> Astonishing. Millions and millions of allegations across so
> > >> many states! So many audits, so many recounts, so many
> > >> Trumpian attempts to prove and to prosecute.
> > >>
> > >> Yet so many Republican judges and officials and their hirees
> > >> (or their "cyber ninjas") all the way up to his vice
> > >> president saying, in effect, "Bullshit."
> > >>
> > >> How could they _all_ have been fooled into thinking Trump
> > >> lost the election?
> > >>
> > >> Or is it possible, just possible, that he actually did?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > Maybe, maybe not.
> > > There's reasonable doubt and not one case was heard, no testimony, no
> > > evidence. If it were clear, one might expect a public record, no?
> > If it were as certain as Trumpsters proclaim, there _would_ have been
> > hearings, testimony and evidence.
> >
> > Allusions and fantasy are all we see, followed by refutations. "Moon
> > landing was fake" has better evidence.
> So as well as proving that you have been a very poor teacher, you have to prove that you don't know how government works and to what ends they will go to try and protect the publics faith in the election process. I have to say, if it came to a contest between you and fat Johnny, I would be hard pressed to chose the most ignorant.

It seems Captain Light Line has never looked in the mirror. Shut the fuck up tommy.

On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 10:49:52 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 1/20/2022 8:41 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 1/20/2022 7:02 PM, John B. wrote:
>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:40:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>>> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have missed that.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past.  Photo of the
>>>> diploma:
>>>> <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
>>>> Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was governor of
>>>> California.
>>>
>>> Ah well, Jeff - many, Tommy - zero. So Jeff wins by a landslide (:-)
>>> That is, unless Tommy can PROVE voter fraud (:-)
>>>
>>
>> How about video of a felony in progress and telephone location data
>> which matches?
>>
>> Last September first reports:
>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-video-shows-traffickers-dumping-thousands-of-ballots-in-georgia-drop-boxes-in-middle-of-the-night/
>>
>>
>> Follow up this month:
>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-georgia-investigating-alleged-illegal-ballot-harvesting-in-2020-election/
>>
>>
>> Then there's Pennsylvania with statutory and constitutional violations.
>>
>> Also Wisconsin, where the nearby Dane County Clerk ran television ads to
>> brag about violating the statute on ballot harvesting.
>>
>> Judge Salas, in NJ, who was scheduled to hear a case involving Jeffrey
>> Epstein, suffered the loss of her son, shot dead in her doorway. The
>> shooter also conveniently 'committed suicide'. Once that message was
>> heard, clearly, no judge allowed any election fraud evidence or
>> testimony into any court record. Zip, nada, nothing.
>>
>> Not one case was heard, deliberated, decided. Every ruling was procedural.
>
>Astonishing. Millions and millions of allegations across so many states!
>So many audits, so many recounts, so many Trumpian attempts to prove and
>to prosecute.
>
>Yet so many Republican judges and officials and their hirees (or their
>"cyber ninjas") all the way up to his vice president saying, in effect,
>"Bullshit."
>
>How could they _all_ have been fooled into thinking Trump lost the
>election?
>
>Or is it possible, just possible, that he actually did?

Frank, the argument is that the Golden Gnome actually won the election
but the clever Democrats faked the vote count to cause their man to
win.

AND they did it so cleverly that in 40 some cases where the
Republicans have managed to make a formal complainant to the courts
they have been over ruled as the courts have ruled that they had no
evidence.

So what we have here is the "proven fact" that the Demo's are far,
far, smarter then Repubs and the question then becomes (1) does one
want a "ruler" who is so clever that he can steal votes while the
opposition is standing there watching? Or (2) does one want to be
"ruled" by a bunch that is so stupid as to allow smarter people to
steal votes while they are standing there watching them.

So the real question is should the U.S. be governed by the stupid or
the smart?

At the moment we've got smart rulers while Tommy and his ilk are
forecasting the return of the dummies. Take your pick.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 12:04:15 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 1/21/2022 9:49 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 1/20/2022 8:41 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 1/20/2022 7:02 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:40:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
>>>> <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST),
>>>>> "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>>>> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have
>>>>>> missed that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past.Â
>>>>> Photo of the
>>>>> diploma:
>>>>> <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
>>>>> Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was
>>>>> governor of
>>>>> California.
>>>>
>>>> Ah well, Jeff - many, Tommy - zero. So Jeff wins by a
>>>> landslide (:-)
>>>> That is, unless Tommy can PROVE voter fraud (:-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> How about video of a felony in progress and telephone
>>> location data which matches?
>>>
>>> Last September first reports:
>>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-video-shows-traffickers-dumping-thousands-of-ballots-in-georgia-drop-boxes-in-middle-of-the-night/
>>>
>>>
>>> Follow up this month:
>>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-georgia-investigating-alleged-illegal-ballot-harvesting-in-2020-election/
>>>
>>>
>>> Then there's Pennsylvania with statutory and
>>> constitutional violations.
>>>
>>> Also Wisconsin, where the nearby Dane County Clerk ran
>>> television ads to brag about violating the statute on
>>> ballot harvesting.
>>>
>>> Judge Salas, in NJ, who was scheduled to hear a case
>>> involving Jeffrey Epstein, suffered the loss of her son,
>>> shot dead in her doorway. The shooter also conveniently
>>> 'committed suicide'. Once that message was heard, clearly,
>>> no judge allowed any election fraud evidence or testimony
>>> into any court record. Zip, nada, nothing.
>>>
>>> Not one case was heard, deliberated, decided. Every ruling
>>> was procedural.
>>
>> Astonishing. Millions and millions of allegations across so
>> many states! So many audits, so many recounts, so many
>> Trumpian attempts to prove and to prosecute.
>>
>> Yet so many Republican judges and officials and their hirees
>> (or their "cyber ninjas") all the way up to his vice
>> president saying, in effect, "Bullshit."
>>
>> How could they _all_ have been fooled into thinking Trump
>> lost the election?
>>
>> Or is it possible, just possible, that he actually did?
>>
>>
>
>Maybe, maybe not.
>There's reasonable doubt and not one case was heard, no
>testimony, no evidence. If it were clear, one might expect a
>public record, no?

I gather that was the difficulty... "no evidence". While it is,
perhaps, all right to hold up a bunch of paper and shout "here is
evidence" but when you get to court you have to show the papers to
someone and let them read them (:-) and apparently that was the
sticking point... no evidence.
--
Cheers,

John B.