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On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 3:15:11 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
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> Andre Jute
> Statistics are easy to do right, but very difficult to cook without being caught out.

The problem is people like Jeff who believe themselves intelligent assessing and interpreting science that they know nothing about.

It has now blown up in their faces. If you are out in a thunderstorm you have and always have had a larger chance of dying by being struck by lightening than living in the 2020 world to 2022 and dying from covid-19. It is and always has been an illness that only a miniscule percent of the population even had bad effects from. Now, grant you, the effect of the earliest example of covid-19 made you feel like you were about to die and you could easily be convinced that you avoided death by naught but a hair's breadth, YOU didn't die and were in extremely little chance of dying. The Omicron variant is actually less dangerous than a common cold. it has the same symptoms but lasts half as long.

The entire house of cards is collapsing. Masks do nothing other than virtue signaling to others of what a fine citizen you would like to be. Imagine the belief that once you are in a restaurant and sitting down that you are no longer a danger to others and may remove your mask! Social distancing on the order of anything less than that measured in 100's of meters is of no effect on an airborne illness. How the hell do people think that influenza spreads? By kissing their fellow workers?

PCR is no longer accepted as proof of covid-19. Flunkmeister had a nice citation saying that it wasn't because PCR didn't work but because we didn't need it. Is there anything more brain dead than believing a bit of ignorance like that?

Now we know that if ANYONE at all was killed by covid it was only the unidentified 6,525 people who might just as well have died from snorting cocaine and not covid-19.

The hate group has had their field day all to no avail. I am still here, I still know what I'm talking about and they know just as much as they did in the first place - nothing but what they seek so hard to find on Google to disprove me. A pile of asses is still asses.

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On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 7:43:18 AM UTC-8, sms wrote:
> On 1/17/2022 10:04 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
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> <snip>
> > This is exactly the same as the Townhall article. Therefore, the
> > questions didn't change. My apologies for the screwup. However, the
> > rest of my comments, on the small population and the lumping of
> > responses in small categories, are still valid.
> In 1985: "The Los Angeles Times Poll found that 51 percent of the
> respondents supported a quarantine of acquired immune deficiency
> syndrome patients, 48 percent would approve of identity cards for those
> who have taken tests indicating the presence of AIDS antibodies and 15
> percent supported tattooing those with AIDS."
>
> I suspect that a high percentage of that 51% would oppose quarantining
> those with active Covid cases.
>
> This was for a virus that was not spread through the air, and where a
> quarantine would have had little effect on the population not at risk.
>
> Since 1983, AIDS has killed 36.3 million people, that's in about 38
> years, or about 1 million people per year. Since 2020, Covid has killed
> about 5.5 million people, that's about 2.25 million people per year.
> Covid doesn't care about your sexual preferences, whether or not you're
> an IV drug user, or how many or how few sexual partners you have.
>
> Of course quarantining for Covid is already happening by many countries
> when people arrive by air or ship and test positive.
>
> A better approach is for airlines, hotels, stores, restaurants, movie
> theaters, and other venues open to the public, to require proof of
> vaccination, not with a card, that is easily forged, but with what many
> states are doing, a QR code that the place can scan to confirm that the
> person is who they say they are, and that they've been vaccinated.
>
> The equipment for vaccination verification is not expensive, just a
> phone with a QR code reader, but it would require that an employee check
> people as they enter. Still, in areas with high vaccination rates, it
> would probably be a net positive for many businesses. A lot of cautious
> people have given up on going out to restaurants, given up flying, etc.,
> and many of those would be willing to be less cautious about venturing
> out if they knew that unvaccinated individuals were not permitted to be
> in the same place as regular people.

Scharf, your political beliefs are showing like your slip. Neither is either correct or polite.

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 by: Rolf Mantel - Tue, 18 Jan 2022 18:12 UTC

Am 18.01.2022 um 18:57 schrieb Andre Jute:
> On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 4:01:51 PM UTC, Rolf Mantel wrote:
>> Am 18.01.2022 um 16:54 schrieb AMuzi:
>>> On 1/18/2022 9:43 AM, sms wrote:
>>
>>>> A better approach is for airlines, hotels, stores, restaurants,
>>>> movie theaters, and other venues open to the public, to require
>>>> proof of vaccination, not with a card, that is easily forged,
>>>> but with what many states are doing, a QR code that the place
>>>> can scan to confirm that the person is who they say they are,
>>>> and that they've been vaccinated.
>>>>
>>>> The equipment for vaccination verification is not expensive,
>>>> just a phone with a QR code reader, but it would require that
>>>> an employee check people as they enter. Still, in areas with
>>>> high vaccination rates, it would probably be a net positive for
>>>> many businesses. A lot of cautious people have given up on
>>>> going out to restaurants, given up flying, etc., and many of
>>>> those would be willing to be less cautious about venturing out
>>>> if they knew that unvaccinated individuals were not permitted
>>>> to be in the same place as regular people.
>>>
>>> Verificatio of an ineffective shot, or four shots, achieves
>>> what, in terms of medicine/epidemiology, exactly?
>>>
>>> https://www.hngn.com/articles/240064/20220118/israel-still-pushes-2nd-booster-shot-research-enough-prevent-omicron.htm
>>
>> In Germany, we have this in place:
>> In order to go to restaurants, you need either a shot within the
>> last 3 months, or two shots in the past plus a current test.
>>
>> This requirement appears to be intrumental to having R = 1.1 rather
>> than the explosion of cases in France and Spain.
>>
>> Even with Omicron being less severe, an incidence of 3,000 per week
>> as in Paris brings hospitals to a grinding halt, an incidence just
>> below 1,000 as in most German places seems to be an infection rate
>> our hospitals can just about cope with.
>
> The government in Ireland, and I assume governments elsewhere in the
> EU, issued all their vaccinated citizens with a sheet of paper with
> vaccination details plus a scannable graphic that can be checked
> against some kind of computerized record and instructions on folding
> it.
The European standard specifies how the name, date of birth and
vaccination detials must be encrypted into that QR code.

Most countries also offer a mobile phone app to store that QR code,
ovbiating the need to carry it around on a piece of paper, plus a second
app to validate those QR codes (on somebody else's mobile phone).
In Germany, the Restaurant staff scan that code and then ask you for
your date of birth or they ask to see your ID to verify that it's your
own code rather than that of "Donald Duck".

Rolf

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 by: Tom Kunich - Tue, 18 Jan 2022 18:14 UTC

On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 8:01:51 AM UTC-8, Rolf Mantel wrote:
> Am 18.01.2022 um 16:54 schrieb AMuzi:
> > On 1/18/2022 9:43 AM, sms wrote:
>
> >> A better approach is for airlines, hotels, stores,
> >> restaurants, movie theaters, and other venues open to the
> >> public, to require proof of vaccination, not with a card,
> >> that is easily forged, but with what many states are doing,
> >> a QR code that the place can scan to confirm that the person
> >> is who they say they are, and that they've been vaccinated.
> >>
> >> The equipment for vaccination verification is not expensive,
> >> just a phone with a QR code reader, but it would require
> >> that an employee check people as they enter. Still, in areas
> >> with high vaccination rates, it would probably be a net
> >> positive for many businesses. A lot of cautious people have
> >> given up on going out to restaurants, given up flying, etc.,
> >> and many of those would be willing to be less cautious about
> >> venturing out if they knew that unvaccinated individuals
> >> were not permitted to be in the same place as regular people.
> >
> > Verificatio of an ineffective shot, or four shots, achieves what, in
> > terms of medicine/epidemiology, exactly?
> >
> > https://www.hngn.com/articles/240064/20220118/israel-still-pushes-2nd-booster-shot-research-enough-prevent-omicron.htm
> In Germany, we have this in place:
> In order to go to restaurants, you need either a shot within the last 3
> months, or two shots in the past plus a current test.
>
> This requirement appears to be intrumental to having R = 1.1 rather than
> the explosion of cases in France and Spain.
>
> Even with Omicron being less severe, an incidence of 3,000 per week as
> in Paris brings hospitals to a grinding halt, an incidence just below
> 1,000 as in most German places seems to be an infection rate our
> hospitals can just about cope with.

Omicron is like a sudden and rather violent cold. If people are being hospitalized for it it is simply because they have been frightened out of their wits by the false reports of the actual dangers of this disease. Do people flock to hospitals if they have the flu or a cold?

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 by: Andre Jute - Tue, 18 Jan 2022 18:20 UTC

On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 3:54:14 PM UTC, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/18/2022 9:43 AM, sms wrote:
> > On 1/17/2022 10:04 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >> This is exactly the same as the Townhall article.
> >> Therefore, the
> >> questions didn't change. My apologies for the screwup.
> >> However, the
> >> rest of my comments, on the small population and the
> >> lumping of
> >> responses in small categories, are still valid.
> >
> > In 1985: "The Los Angeles Times Poll found that 51 percent
> > of the respondents supported a quarantine of acquired immune
> > deficiency syndrome patients, 48 percent would approve of
> > identity cards for those who have taken tests indicating the
> > presence of AIDS antibodies and 15 percent supported
> > tattooing those with AIDS."
> >
> > I suspect that a high percentage of that 51% would oppose
> > quarantining those with active Covid cases.
> >
> > This was for a virus that was not spread through the air,
> > and where a quarantine would have had little effect on the
> > population not at risk.
> >
> > Since 1983, AIDS has killed 36.3 million people, that's in
> > about 38 years, or about 1 million people per year. Since
> > 2020, Covid has killed about 5.5 million people, that's
> > about 2.25 million people per year. Covid doesn't care about
> > your sexual preferences, whether or not you're an IV drug
> > user, or how many or how few sexual partners you have.
> >
> > Of course quarantining for Covid is already happening by
> > many countries when people arrive by air or ship and test
> > positive.
> >
> > A better approach is for airlines, hotels, stores,
> > restaurants, movie theaters, and other venues open to the
> > public, to require proof of vaccination, not with a card,
> > that is easily forged, but with what many states are doing,
> > a QR code that the place can scan to confirm that the person
> > is who they say they are, and that they've been vaccinated.
> >
> > The equipment for vaccination verification is not expensive,
> > just a phone with a QR code reader, but it would require
> > that an employee check people as they enter. Still, in areas
> > with high vaccination rates, it would probably be a net
> > positive for many businesses. A lot of cautious people have
> > given up on going out to restaurants, given up flying, etc.,
> > and many of those would be willing to be less cautious about
> > venturing out if they knew that unvaccinated individuals
> > were not permitted to be in the same place as regular people.
> Verificatio of an ineffective shot, or four shots, achieves
> what, in terms of medicine/epidemiology, exactly?
>
> https://www.hngn.com/articles/240064/20220118/israel-still-pushes-2nd-booster-shot-research-enough-prevent-omicron.htm
>
> https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bc-ml-virus-outbreak-israel_n_61e69b74e4b0c6802eeb95ef
>
> https://nypost.com/2022/01/18/fourth-covid-vaccine-still-doesnt-stop-omicron-israeli-study/
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>
Taking the shots that won't protect you, wearing the useless mask, is a signal that you're taking the Wuhan Virus seriously, a symbol of your fellowship with the lefties who want to use the fear they can generate with Wuhan to control everyone else. A recent analogy was pressuring politicians and governments to vote for trillions in expenditure on global warming to show that, even though we knew the money would be wasted (and the hungry it could feed would starve), we were "taking global warming seriously". That was an explicit, public argument for "signing on to Kyoto", and "Rio" and the "Paris Accords"x2 or maybe x3. It was stupid then, it is stupid now, whatever useless initiative it is applied to. -- AJ

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On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 6:09:29 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 3:15:11 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> >
> > Andre Jute
> > Statistics are easy to do right, but very difficult to cook without being caught out.
> The problem is people like Jeff who believe themselves intelligent assessing and interpreting science that they know nothing about.
>
> It has now blown up in their faces. If you are out in a thunderstorm you have and always have had a larger chance of dying by being struck by lightening than living in the 2020 world to 2022 and dying from covid-19. It is and always has been an illness that only a miniscule percent of the population even had bad effects from. Now, grant you, the effect of the earliest example of covid-19 made you feel like you were about to die and you could easily be convinced that you avoided death by naught but a hair's breadth, YOU didn't die and were in extremely little chance of dying. The Omicron variant is actually less dangerous than a common cold. it has the same symptoms but lasts half as long.
>
> The entire house of cards is collapsing. Masks do nothing other than virtue signaling to others of what a fine citizen you would like to be. Imagine the belief that once you are in a restaurant and sitting down that you are no longer a danger to others and may remove your mask! Social distancing on the order of anything less than that measured in 100's of meters is of no effect on an airborne illness. How the hell do people think that influenza spreads? By kissing their fellow workers?
>
> PCR is no longer accepted as proof of covid-19. Flunkmeister had a nice citation saying that it wasn't because PCR didn't work but because we didn't need it. Is there anything more brain dead than believing a bit of ignorance like that?
>
> Now we know that if ANYONE at all was killed by covid it was only the unidentified 6,525 people who might just as well have died from snorting cocaine and not covid-19.
>
> The hate group has had their field day all to no avail. I am still here, I still know what I'm talking about and they know just as much as they did in the first place - nothing but what they seek so hard to find on Google to disprove me. A pile of asses is still asses.
>
An "ignorance of asses" or a "stupidity of asses"? That is the only remaining question. --
AJ

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On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 10:37:30 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 6:09:29 PM UTC, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 3:15:11 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> > >
> > > Andre Jute
> > > Statistics are easy to do right, but very difficult to cook without being caught out.
> > The problem is people like Jeff who believe themselves intelligent assessing and interpreting science that they know nothing about.
> >
> > It has now blown up in their faces. If you are out in a thunderstorm you have and always have had a larger chance of dying by being struck by lightening than living in the 2020 world to 2022 and dying from covid-19. It is and always has been an illness that only a miniscule percent of the population even had bad effects from. Now, grant you, the effect of the earliest example of covid-19 made you feel like you were about to die and you could easily be convinced that you avoided death by naught but a hair's breadth, YOU didn't die and were in extremely little chance of dying. The Omicron variant is actually less dangerous than a common cold. it has the same symptoms but lasts half as long.
> >
> > The entire house of cards is collapsing. Masks do nothing other than virtue signaling to others of what a fine citizen you would like to be. Imagine the belief that once you are in a restaurant and sitting down that you are no longer a danger to others and may remove your mask! Social distancing on the order of anything less than that measured in 100's of meters is of no effect on an airborne illness. How the hell do people think that influenza spreads? By kissing their fellow workers?
> >
> > PCR is no longer accepted as proof of covid-19. Flunkmeister had a nice citation saying that it wasn't because PCR didn't work but because we didn't need it. Is there anything more brain dead than believing a bit of ignorance like that?
> >
> > Now we know that if ANYONE at all was killed by covid it was only the unidentified 6,525 people who might just as well have died from snorting cocaine and not covid-19.
> >
> > The hate group has had their field day all to no avail. I am still here, I still know what I'm talking about and they know just as much as they did in the first place - nothing but what they seek so hard to find on Google to disprove me. A pile of asses is still asses.
> >
> An "ignorance of asses" or a "stupidity of asses"? That is the only remaining question. --

Indeed, one has to have a pronoun for multiples.

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On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:20:22 PM UTC-5, Andre the impotent wrote:
> >
> Taking the shots that won't protect you,

but then two posts earlier he wrote:

"all people my age were vaccinated in the impressive rolling vaccination program the government organized."

just gonna leave that there....

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On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 10:45:42 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:20:22 PM UTC-5, Andre the impotent wrote:
> > >
> > Taking the shots that won't protect you,
> but then two posts earlier he wrote:
>
> "all people my age were vaccinated in the impressive rolling vaccination program the government organized."
> just gonna leave that there....

You're going to leave it at things you don't understand? Good move and highly unusual for you.

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 by: funkma...@hotmail.co - Tue, 18 Jan 2022 19:04 UTC

On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:09:29 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 3:15:11 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> >
> > Andre Jute
> > Statistics are easy to do right, but very difficult to cook without being caught out.

Like reading a chart that lists deaths per 100,000, then claiming the marker at 85 means 85 total deaths.

> The entire house of cards is collapsing. Masks do nothing other than virtue signaling to others of what a fine citizen you would like to be.

Funny, anre's BYT link that he said we simply _must_ believe says the exact opposite.

> Imagine the belief that once you are in a restaurant and sitting down that you are no longer a
> danger to others and may remove your mask! Social distancing on the order of anything less
> than that measured in 100's of meters is of no effect on an airborne illness. How the hell do
> people think that influenza spreads? By kissing their fellow workers?

It's been pretty much proven that you are the least qualified person in this forum to make such assertions.

>
> PCR is no longer accepted as proof of covid-19. Flunkmeister had a nice citation saying that it wasn't because
> PCR didn't work but because we didn't need it. Is there anything more brain dead than believing a bit of ignorance like that?

So you post a link from the CDC saying PCR is withdrawn and claim it's because _you_ told them it didn't work (while is a complete delusion), and we should believe the CDC webpage. Then you're shown another webpage from the CDC which states the test is perfectly accurate, and it's no longer recommended as a test protocol for practical reasons, but _that_ web page we should _not_ believe. Then you post a link to a study on the CDC website about mask effectiveness which you incorrectly claim is a CDC study and the we should believe it, then when sown a _real_ CDC study contradicting it you say we _shouldn't_ believe it. Now your little ass-buddy posts a link claiming the CDC now says masks are in effective and we should believe it, but when we read the link it states the exact so now you both say we _shouldn't_ believe it. You're getting a little confused tommy, should we believe the CDC or not? Or should we only believe what you tell us an never bother to look anything up for ourselves? Gee with that logic, we'd all be believing the north lost every civil war battle before the emancipation proclamation.

>
> Now we know that if ANYONE at all was killed by covid it was only the unidentified 6,525 people

No tommy, no one "knows" that. You and your fellow qanon idiots _think_ that. Everyone else knows the CDC data to be real and valid.

> who might just as well have died from snorting cocaine and not covid-19.
>
> The hate group has had their field day all to no avail. I am still here, I still know what I'm talking about

yup, tommy "light lines" kunich dazzles us all once again....

> and they know just as much as they did in the first place

That you're an ignorant baboon, and andre is your sorry little sycophant whom you let lead you around by the nose.

> nothing but what they seek so hard to find on Google to disprove me.

And are successful at every time.

> A pile of asses is still asses.

Projecting your homoerotic fantasies again?

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On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:09:29 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 3:15:11 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> >
> > Andre Jute
> > Statistics are easy to do right, but very difficult to cook without being caught out.
On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:09:29 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 3:15:11 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> >
> > Andre Jute
> > Statistics are easy to do right, but very difficult to cook without being caught out.

Like reading a chart that lists deaths per 100,000, then claiming the marker at 85 means 85 total deaths.

> The entire house of cards is collapsing. Masks do nothing other than virtue signaling to others of what a fine citizen you would like to be.

Funny, andre's NYT link that he said we simply _must_ believe says the exact opposite.

> Imagine the belief that once you are in a restaurant and sitting down that you are no longer a
> danger to others and may remove your mask! Social distancing on the order of anything less
> than that measured in 100's of meters is of no effect on an airborne illness. How the hell do
> people think that influenza spreads? By kissing their fellow workers?

It's been pretty much proven that you are the least qualified person in this forum to make such assertions.

> PCR is no longer accepted as proof of covid-19. Flunkmeister had a nice citation saying that it wasn't because
> PCR didn't work but because we didn't need it. Is there anything more brain dead than believing a bit of ignorance like that?

So you post a link from the CDC saying PCR is withdrawn and claim it's because _you_ told them it didn't work (while is a complete delusion), and we should believe the CDC webpage. Then you're shown another webpage from the CDC which states the test is perfectly accurate, and it's no longer recommended as a test protocol for practical reasons, but _that_ web page we should _not_ believe. Then you post a link to a study on the CDC website about mask effectiveness which you incorrectly claim is a CDC study and the we should believe it, then when sown a _real_ CDC study contradicting it you say we _shouldn't_ believe it. Now your little ass-buddy posts a link claiming the CDC now says masks are in effective and we should believe it, but when we read the link it states the exact so now you both say we _shouldn't_ believe it. You're getting a little confused tommy, should we believe the CDC or not? Or should we only believe what you tell us an never bother to look anything up for ourselves? Gee with that logic, we'd all be believing the north lost every civil war battle before the emancipation proclamation.

>
> Now we know that if ANYONE at all was killed by covid it was only the unidentified 6,525 people

No tommy, no one "knows" that. You and your fellow qanon idiots _think_ that. Everyone else knows the CDC data to be real and valid.

> who might just as well have died from snorting cocaine and not covid-19.
>
> The hate group has had their field day all to no avail. I am still here, I still know what I'm talking about

yup, tommy "light lines" kunich dazzles us all once again....

> and they know just as much as they did in the first place

That you're an ignorant baboon, and andre is your sorry little sycophant whom you let lead you around by the nose.

> nothing but what they seek so hard to find on Google to disprove me.

And are successful at every time.

> A pile of asses is still asses.

Projecting your homoerotic fantasies again?

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On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:58:25 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 10:45:42 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:20:22 PM UTC-5, Andre the impotent wrote:
> > > >
> > > Taking the shots that won't protect you,
> > but then two posts earlier he wrote:
> >
> > "all people my age were vaccinated in the impressive rolling vaccination program the government organized."
> > just gonna leave that there....
> You're going to leave it at things you don't understand? Good move and highly unusual for you.

I understand perfectly well, sparky. OTOH - Tell us again how PWM can be used for testing cables.

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On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:58:25 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 10:45:42 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:20:22 PM UTC-5, Andre the impotent wrote:
> > > >
> > > Taking the shots that won't protect you,
> > but then two posts earlier he wrote:
> >
> > "all people my age were vaccinated in the impressive rolling vaccination program the government organized."
> > just gonna leave that there....
> You're going to leave it at things you don't understand? Good move and highly unusual for you.

I understand perfectly well, sparky. Though I suppose one could question why andre seemingly willingly took the vaccine "knowing" it would most certainly lead to his imminent death as you like to claim, or is it only democrats that the vaccine kills, or maybe the just americans? OTOH - as far as understanding the world around us tell us again how PWM can be used for testing cables.

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 by: Tom Kunich - Tue, 18 Jan 2022 19:47 UTC

On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 11:13:21 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:58:25 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 10:45:42 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:20:22 PM UTC-5, Andre the impotent wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > Taking the shots that won't protect you,
> > > but then two posts earlier he wrote:
> > >
> > > "all people my age were vaccinated in the impressive rolling vaccination program the government organized."
> > > just gonna leave that there....
> > You're going to leave it at things you don't understand? Good move and highly unusual for you.
> I understand perfectly well, sparky. Though I suppose one could question why andre seemingly willingly took the vaccine "knowing" it would most certainly lead to his imminent death as you like to claim, or is it only democrats that the vaccine kills, or maybe the just americans? OTOH - as far as understanding the world around us tell us again how PWM can be used for testing cables.

Lying is always your trade I suppose but no one takes you seriously so it doesn't much matter does it? No one said that the vaccinations were certain death. They said that about 0.8% had very serious reaction that could lead to death. Especially in younger people who had ZERO chances of bad outcomes for the covid-19 virus. They only published dozens of videos of young athletes dropping dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots in the circulatory systems. Were some of these natural? Unlikely since they were too young and too athletic to have hardening of the arteries.

But you have my permission to continue blathering like the fool you are. With each posting you're becoming progressively more entertaining.

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On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 2:47:42 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 11:13:21 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:58:25 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 10:45:42 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:20:22 PM UTC-5, Andre the impotent wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > Taking the shots that won't protect you,
> > > > but then two posts earlier he wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "all people my age were vaccinated in the impressive rolling vaccination program the government organized."
> > > > just gonna leave that there....
> > > You're going to leave it at things you don't understand? Good move and highly unusual for you.
> > I understand perfectly well, sparky. Though I suppose one could question why andre seemingly willingly took the vaccine "knowing" it would most certainly lead to his imminent death as you like to claim, or is it only democrats that the vaccine kills, or maybe the just americans? OTOH - as far as understanding the world around us tell us again how PWM can be used for testing cables.
> Lying is always your trade I suppose but no one takes you seriously so it doesn't much matter does it? No one said that the vaccinations were certain death.

You have, several times.

> They said that about 0.8% had very serious reaction that could lead to death. Especially in younger people who had
> ZERO chances of bad outcomes for the covid-19 virus. They only published dozens of videos of young athletes dropping
> dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots in the circulatory systems.
> Were some of these natural? Unlikely since they were too young and too athletic to have hardening of the arteries.

Publish links to these videos with _credible_ reports that the deaths were results of vaccine induced blodclots, , or shut the fuck up

> But you have my permission to continue blathering like the fool you are. With each posting you're becoming progressively more entertaining.

right like "They only published dozens of videos of young athletes dropping dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots in the circulatory systems. " You should be a ghost writer for andre's fiction, it's way more entertaining than any of his drivel.

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On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 11:13:21 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:58:25 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 10:45:42 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:20:22 PM UTC-5, Andre the impotent wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > Taking the shots that won't protect you,
> > > but then two posts earlier he wrote:
> > >
> > > "all people my age were vaccinated in the impressive rolling vaccination program the government organized."
> > > just gonna leave that there....
> > You're going to leave it at things you don't understand? Good move and highly unusual for you.
> I understand perfectly well, sparky. Though I suppose one could question why andre seemingly willingly took the vaccine "knowing" it would most certainly lead to his imminent death as you like to claim, or is it only democrats that the vaccine kills, or maybe the just americans? OTOH - as far as understanding the world around us tell us again how PWM can be used for testing cables.

I understand that you consider yourself a technician but you're not even that. You are so far below technician level that you wouldn't even understand how PWM could measure a cable for opens and shorts. Why don't you tell us how it is done in flunkmeister-world?

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On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:37:16 PM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 2:47:42 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 11:13:21 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:58:25 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 10:45:42 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:20:22 PM UTC-5, Andre the impotent wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Taking the shots that won't protect you,
> > > > > but then two posts earlier he wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "all people my age were vaccinated in the impressive rolling vaccination program the government organized."
> > > > > just gonna leave that there....
> > > > You're going to leave it at things you don't understand? Good move and highly unusual for you.
> > > I understand perfectly well, sparky. Though I suppose one could question why andre seemingly willingly took the vaccine "knowing" it would most certainly lead to his imminent death as you like to claim, or is it only democrats that the vaccine kills, or maybe the just americans? OTOH - as far as understanding the world around us tell us again how PWM can be used for testing cables.
> > Lying is always your trade I suppose but no one takes you seriously so it doesn't much matter does it? No one said that the vaccinations were certain death.
> You have, several times.
> > They said that about 0.8% had very serious reaction that could lead to death. Especially in younger people who had
> > ZERO chances of bad outcomes for the covid-19 virus. They only published dozens of videos of young athletes dropping
> > dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots in the circulatory systems.
> > Were some of these natural? Unlikely since they were too young and too athletic to have hardening of the arteries.
> Publish links to these videos with _credible_ reports that the deaths were results of vaccine induced blodclots, , or shut the fuck up
> > But you have my permission to continue blathering like the fool you are.. With each posting you're becoming progressively more entertaining.
> right like "They only published dozens of videos of young athletes dropping dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots in the circulatory systems. " You should be a ghost writer for andre's fiction, it's way more entertaining than any of his drivel.

Can you tell us why you're so convinced of your own intelligence that you can't even look these things up?

https://www.ajronline.org/doi/10.2214/AJR.21.26853
https://truthbasedmedia.com/2022/01/12/autopsy-confirms-26-year-olds-death-from-myocarditis-directly-caused-by-pfizer-covid-vaccine/
https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-myocarditis-young-men-after-vaccination-happens-is-very-rare-2021-6?op=1 (extremely rare? After 150 million doses of vaccine?)
"VAERS confirmed over 6000 additional COVID-19 vaccine death reports" https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/covid-19-vaccine-related-fatalities-updated

You have the intellectual capacity of a sea slug. There is really something wrong with you and it is plain that you don't even know it. Perhaps you'll run out and get your next booster and that will be the end of all of your problems.

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 by: funkma...@hotmail.co - Wed, 19 Jan 2022 13:02 UTC

On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 4:52:16 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 11:13:21 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:58:25 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 10:45:42 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:20:22 PM UTC-5, Andre the impotent wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > Taking the shots that won't protect you,
> > > > but then two posts earlier he wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "all people my age were vaccinated in the impressive rolling vaccination program the government organized."
> > > > just gonna leave that there....
> > > You're going to leave it at things you don't understand? Good move and highly unusual for you.
> > I understand perfectly well, sparky. Though I suppose one could question why andre seemingly willingly took the vaccine "knowing" it would most certainly lead to his imminent death as you like to claim, or is it only democrats that the vaccine kills, or maybe the just americans? OTOH - as far as understanding the world around us tell us again how PWM can be used for testing cables.
>
> I understand that you consider yourself a technician but you're not even that.

in other words, you have no link, or even an idea how PWM could be used for cable testing, so you simply restate your lie.

> You are so far below technician level that you wouldn't even understand how PWM could measure a cable for opens and shorts.

Neither can you, because no such method exists. If it did, you would have posted something by now.

> Why don't you tell us how it is done in flunkmeister-world?

Since flunkmeister world is a place that only exists in your imagination with your delusion that _you_ convinced the CDC to stop using the PCR test for covid, it wouldn't be possible to explain how anything works in that world. However, in the _real_ world, there is no PWM method for testing cables. it's done with simple DC continuity and TDR. More accurate characterization is done with swept-frequency analysis, and RF/microwave cables are tested with S-parameter equipment to determine insertion loss, VSWR, and LC impedance vectors.

Go ahead skippy, show me a link, a test method, or some type of PWM cable tester. Prove your point that I wouldnt understand it by actually posting something. "you wouldn't understand", won't cut it, and only proves you're lying. Put up or shut the fuck up.

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On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 5:07:33 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:37:16 PM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 2:47:42 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 11:13:21 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:58:25 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 10:45:42 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:20:22 PM UTC-5, Andre the impotent wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Taking the shots that won't protect you,
> > > > > > but then two posts earlier he wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "all people my age were vaccinated in the impressive rolling vaccination program the government organized."
> > > > > > just gonna leave that there....
> > > > > You're going to leave it at things you don't understand? Good move and highly unusual for you.
> > > > I understand perfectly well, sparky. Though I suppose one could question why andre seemingly willingly took the vaccine "knowing" it would most certainly lead to his imminent death as you like to claim, or is it only democrats that the vaccine kills, or maybe the just americans? OTOH - as far as understanding the world around us tell us again how PWM can be used for testing cables.
> > > Lying is always your trade I suppose but no one takes you seriously so it doesn't much matter does it? No one said that the vaccinations were certain death.
> > You have, several times.
> > > They said that about 0.8% had very serious reaction that could lead to death. Especially in younger people who had
> > > ZERO chances of bad outcomes for the covid-19 virus. They only published dozens of videos of young athletes dropping
> > > dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots in the circulatory systems.
> > > Were some of these natural? Unlikely since they were too young and too athletic to have hardening of the arteries.
> > Publish links to these videos with _credible_ reports that the deaths were results of vaccine induced blodclots, , or shut the fuck up
> > > But you have my permission to continue blathering like the fool you are. With each posting you're becoming progressively more entertaining.
> > right like "They only published dozens of videos of young athletes dropping dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots in the circulatory systems. " You should be a ghost writer for andre's fiction, it's way more entertaining than any of his drivel.
> Can you tell us why you're so convinced of your own intelligence that you can't even look these things up?

Because it's fun watching you post links that disprove your own claims. Helpful hint: learn the difference between myocarditis and myocardial infarction. All the links you posted discuss the former, none of them mention the latter, which _can_ be caused by blood clots.

> https://www.ajronline.org/doi/10.2214/AJR.21.26853

Nope. Once again you fail to actually read the links you post. Not only are there no blood clots discussed, but no deaths are reported in this study and the conclusion states "All patients showed cardiac MRI findings typical of myocarditis of other causes." and "The observations do not establish causality."
Strike one.

> https://truthbasedmedia.com/2022/01/12/autopsy-confirms-26-year-olds-death-from-myocarditis-directly-caused-by-pfizer-covid-vaccine/

Again, read the links you post, moron.
1) He wasn't one of "dozens of healthy athlete young athletes dropping dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots". He died from multifocal myocarditis, not Myocardial Infarction.
2) He was obese (5'9" and 240 pounds = BMI of 35.4), and according to his mother his resting HR was about 80. From your link "when he sat in the recliner, his heart rate dropped into the 60s, which was low for Joseph, who always had a resting heart rate in the 80s and 90s". He wasn't a 'healthy young athlete' by any stretch of the imagination.
3) Besides being obese, another co-morbidity was his history of Vein of Galen malformation (a type of AVM) in his brain. The autopsy also showed cerebral edema.
Strike 2

> https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-myocarditis-young-men-after-vaccination-happens-is-very-rare-2021-6?op=1 (extremely rare? After 150 million doses of vaccine?)

Yes, sparky, 434 cases after 100 million doses is extremely rare. From your link:
"434 cases of myocarditis have been documented in males from 12-29 years of age, in the 21 days after their second shot. That's a rate of about 0.004%"
Again, inflammation (myocarditis), not blood clots.
Also from your link "Dr. Eliot Peyster, a cardiologist at the University of Pennsylvania, previously told Insider that the incidence of myocarditis from a vaccine is about 100 times lower than the incidence when you actually get [a COVID-19] infection."
Strike 3

> "VAERS confirmed over 6000 additional COVID-19 vaccine death reports" https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/covid-19-vaccine-related-fatalities-updated

Which the link states "Since more than 338 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the USA, this data reflects a vaccination-death ratio of 0.0018%."
No mention of "dozens of healthy athlete young athletes dropping dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots", and the article only briefly mentions myocarditis (1,148 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis among people ages 30 and younger who received a COVID-19 vaccine as of July 19th., or 0004% for both)
>
> You have the intellectual capacity of a sea slug.

Obviously vastly smarter than you, since it took me all of 15 minutes to completely destroy your argument using your own information.

> There is really something wrong with you and it is plain that you don't even know it.

Or maybe the problem is with the addled old high-school dropout who claimed ""dozens of healthy athlete young athletes dropping dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots" then posted four links of which the claim isn't even addressed.

> Perhaps you'll run out and get your next booster and that will be the end of all of your problems.
but tommy, you wrote "No one said that the vaccinations were certain death. " Now they are? make up what little of a mind you have left.
Oh, and shut the fuck up.

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On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 6:01:43 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 5:07:33 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:37:16 PM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 2:47:42 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 11:13:21 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:58:25 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 10:45:42 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:20:22 PM UTC-5, Andre the impotent wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Taking the shots that won't protect you,
> > > > > > > but then two posts earlier he wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "all people my age were vaccinated in the impressive rolling vaccination program the government organized."
> > > > > > > just gonna leave that there....
> > > > > > You're going to leave it at things you don't understand? Good move and highly unusual for you.
> > > > > I understand perfectly well, sparky. Though I suppose one could question why andre seemingly willingly took the vaccine "knowing" it would most certainly lead to his imminent death as you like to claim, or is it only democrats that the vaccine kills, or maybe the just americans? OTOH - as far as understanding the world around us tell us again how PWM can be used for testing cables.
> > > > Lying is always your trade I suppose but no one takes you seriously so it doesn't much matter does it? No one said that the vaccinations were certain death.
> > > You have, several times.
> > > > They said that about 0.8% had very serious reaction that could lead to death. Especially in younger people who had
> > > > ZERO chances of bad outcomes for the covid-19 virus. They only published dozens of videos of young athletes dropping
> > > > dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots in the circulatory systems.
> > > > Were some of these natural? Unlikely since they were too young and too athletic to have hardening of the arteries.
> > > Publish links to these videos with _credible_ reports that the deaths were results of vaccine induced blodclots, , or shut the fuck up
> > > > But you have my permission to continue blathering like the fool you are. With each posting you're becoming progressively more entertaining.
> > > right like "They only published dozens of videos of young athletes dropping dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots in the circulatory systems. " You should be a ghost writer for andre's fiction, it's way more entertaining than any of his drivel.
> > Can you tell us why you're so convinced of your own intelligence that you can't even look these things up?
> Because it's fun watching you post links that disprove your own claims. Helpful hint: learn the difference between myocarditis and myocardial infarction. All the links you posted discuss the former, none of them mention the latter, which _can_ be caused by blood clots.
>
> > https://www.ajronline.org/doi/10.2214/AJR.21.26853
>
> Nope. Once again you fail to actually read the links you post. Not only are there no blood clots discussed, but no deaths are reported in this study and the conclusion states "All patients showed cardiac MRI findings typical of myocarditis of other causes." and "The observations do not establish causality."
> Strike one.
>
> > https://truthbasedmedia.com/2022/01/12/autopsy-confirms-26-year-olds-death-from-myocarditis-directly-caused-by-pfizer-covid-vaccine/
>
> Again, read the links you post, moron.
> 1) He wasn't one of "dozens of healthy athlete young athletes dropping dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots". He died from multifocal myocarditis, not Myocardial Infarction.
> 2) He was obese (5'9" and 240 pounds = BMI of 35.4), and according to his mother his resting HR was about 80. From your link "when he sat in the recliner, his heart rate dropped into the 60s, which was low for Joseph, who always had a resting heart rate in the 80s and 90s". He wasn't a 'healthy young athlete' by any stretch of the imagination.
> 3) Besides being obese, another co-morbidity was his history of Vein of Galen malformation (a type of AVM) in his brain. The autopsy also showed cerebral edema.
> Strike 2
> > https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-myocarditis-young-men-after-vaccination-happens-is-very-rare-2021-6?op=1 (extremely rare? After 150 million doses of vaccine?)
> Yes, sparky, 434 cases after 100 million doses is extremely rare. From your link:
> "434 cases of myocarditis have been documented in males from 12-29 years of age, in the 21 days after their second shot. That's a rate of about 0.004%"
> Again, inflammation (myocarditis), not blood clots.
> Also from your link "Dr. Eliot Peyster, a cardiologist at the University of Pennsylvania, previously told Insider that the incidence of myocarditis from a vaccine is about 100 times lower than the incidence when you actually get [a COVID-19] infection."
> Strike 3
> > "VAERS confirmed over 6000 additional COVID-19 vaccine death reports" https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/covid-19-vaccine-related-fatalities-updated
> Which the link states "Since more than 338 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the USA, this data reflects a vaccination-death ratio of 0.0018%."
> No mention of "dozens of healthy athlete young athletes dropping dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots", and the article only briefly mentions myocarditis (1,148 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis among people ages 30 and younger who received a COVID-19 vaccine as of July 19th., or 0004% for both)
> >
> > You have the intellectual capacity of a sea slug.
> Obviously vastly smarter than you, since it took me all of 15 minutes to completely destroy your argument using your own information.
> > There is really something wrong with you and it is plain that you don't even know it.
> Or maybe the problem is with the addled old high-school dropout who claimed ""dozens of healthy athlete young athletes dropping dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots" then posted four links of which the claim isn't even addressed.
> > Perhaps you'll run out and get your next booster and that will be the end of all of your problems.
> but tommy, you wrote "No one said that the vaccinations were certain death. " Now they are? make up what little of a mind you have left.
> Oh, and shut the fuck up.

Head exploding from your ignorance leading to still more loses? https://openvaers.com/covid-data

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On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 10:50:05 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 6:01:43 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 5:07:33 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:37:16 PM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 2:47:42 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 11:13:21 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:58:25 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail..com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 10:45:42 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:20:22 PM UTC-5, Andre the impotent wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Taking the shots that won't protect you,
> > > > > > > > but then two posts earlier he wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "all people my age were vaccinated in the impressive rolling vaccination program the government organized."
> > > > > > > > just gonna leave that there....
> > > > > > > You're going to leave it at things you don't understand? Good move and highly unusual for you.
> > > > > > I understand perfectly well, sparky. Though I suppose one could question why andre seemingly willingly took the vaccine "knowing" it would most certainly lead to his imminent death as you like to claim, or is it only democrats that the vaccine kills, or maybe the just americans? OTOH - as far as understanding the world around us tell us again how PWM can be used for testing cables.
> > > > > Lying is always your trade I suppose but no one takes you seriously so it doesn't much matter does it? No one said that the vaccinations were certain death.
> > > > You have, several times.
> > > > > They said that about 0.8% had very serious reaction that could lead to death. Especially in younger people who had
> > > > > ZERO chances of bad outcomes for the covid-19 virus. They only published dozens of videos of young athletes dropping
> > > > > dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots in the circulatory systems.
> > > > > Were some of these natural? Unlikely since they were too young and too athletic to have hardening of the arteries.
> > > > Publish links to these videos with _credible_ reports that the deaths were results of vaccine induced blodclots, , or shut the fuck up
> > > > > But you have my permission to continue blathering like the fool you are. With each posting you're becoming progressively more entertaining.
> > > > right like "They only published dozens of videos of young athletes dropping dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots in the circulatory systems. " You should be a ghost writer for andre's fiction, it's way more entertaining than any of his drivel.
> > > Can you tell us why you're so convinced of your own intelligence that you can't even look these things up?
> > Because it's fun watching you post links that disprove your own claims. Helpful hint: learn the difference between myocarditis and myocardial infarction. All the links you posted discuss the former, none of them mention the latter, which _can_ be caused by blood clots.
> >
> > > https://www.ajronline.org/doi/10.2214/AJR.21.26853
> >
> > Nope. Once again you fail to actually read the links you post. Not only are there no blood clots discussed, but no deaths are reported in this study and the conclusion states "All patients showed cardiac MRI findings typical of myocarditis of other causes." and "The observations do not establish causality."
> > Strike one.
> >
> > > https://truthbasedmedia.com/2022/01/12/autopsy-confirms-26-year-olds-death-from-myocarditis-directly-caused-by-pfizer-covid-vaccine/
> >
> > Again, read the links you post, moron.
> > 1) He wasn't one of "dozens of healthy athlete young athletes dropping dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots".. He died from multifocal myocarditis, not Myocardial Infarction.
> > 2) He was obese (5'9" and 240 pounds = BMI of 35.4), and according to his mother his resting HR was about 80. From your link "when he sat in the recliner, his heart rate dropped into the 60s, which was low for Joseph, who always had a resting heart rate in the 80s and 90s". He wasn't a 'healthy young athlete' by any stretch of the imagination.
> > 3) Besides being obese, another co-morbidity was his history of Vein of Galen malformation (a type of AVM) in his brain. The autopsy also showed cerebral edema.
> > Strike 2
> > > https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-myocarditis-young-men-after-vaccination-happens-is-very-rare-2021-6?op=1 (extremely rare? After 150 million doses of vaccine?)
> > Yes, sparky, 434 cases after 100 million doses is extremely rare. From your link:
> > "434 cases of myocarditis have been documented in males from 12-29 years of age, in the 21 days after their second shot. That's a rate of about 0.004%"
> > Again, inflammation (myocarditis), not blood clots.
> > Also from your link "Dr. Eliot Peyster, a cardiologist at the University of Pennsylvania, previously told Insider that the incidence of myocarditis from a vaccine is about 100 times lower than the incidence when you actually get [a COVID-19] infection."
> > Strike 3
> > > "VAERS confirmed over 6000 additional COVID-19 vaccine death reports" https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/covid-19-vaccine-related-fatalities-updated
> > Which the link states "Since more than 338 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the USA, this data reflects a vaccination-death ratio of 0.0018%."
> > No mention of "dozens of healthy athlete young athletes dropping dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots", and the article only briefly mentions myocarditis (1,148 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis among people ages 30 and younger who received a COVID-19 vaccine as of July 19th., or 0004% for both)
> > >
> > > You have the intellectual capacity of a sea slug.
> > Obviously vastly smarter than you, since it took me all of 15 minutes to completely destroy your argument using your own information.
> > > There is really something wrong with you and it is plain that you don't even know it.
> > Or maybe the problem is with the addled old high-school dropout who claimed ""dozens of healthy athlete young athletes dropping dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots" then posted four links of which the claim isn't even addressed.
> > > Perhaps you'll run out and get your next booster and that will be the end of all of your problems.
> > but tommy, you wrote "No one said that the vaccinations were certain death. " Now they are? make up what little of a mind you have left.
> > Oh, and shut the fuck up.
> Head exploding from your ignorance leading to still more loses? https://openvaers.com/covid-data

No, but your head is obviously exploding because you keep posting links that don't support your claims. It might help if you actually understood the VAERS (helpful hint, set the slide switch to "us/territories" rather than "all", since international reporting data is skewed towards a lower rate.)

Contrary to the bullshit you're trying to peddle here, VAERS doesn't attribute the cause of death to the vaccine. From https://vaers.hhs.gov/:
"VAERS collects and reviews reports of adverse events that occur after vaccination. An “adverse event” is any health problem or “side effect” that happens after a vaccination. VAERS cannot determine if a vaccine caused an adverse event, but can determine if further investigation is needed."
It's used to help spot trends, nothing more.

Nothing in that link supports any of your claims let alone refute any of the previous links you listed (which all contradict your claims as well).
Gee sparky, what's next? Gonna pull the "vaccine death report" which claims it contains "living tentacled organisms" and graphine which alters the human body magnetic field and makes you susceptible to mind control through the 5g cell network? How vaccinated pregnant women give birth to babies with black eyes and are showing highly accelerated aging?
Or better yet, how the whole vaccine program is a global conspiracy theory in which Bill Gates is being telepathically controlled by a shadow leader behind the Pope Francis called the grey pope - "[the] supreme puppet master operates entirely in the shadows, from where he yields enormous power over the world."!
Yes folks, this lunacy not only exists in a formal report, but there are people who actually believe it https://nhjournal.com/gops-weyler-pushing-conspiracy-theory-about-creature-with-tentacles-in-vax/
This time tommy, I'm not going to tell you to shut the fuck up. I want you to keep writing. Entertain us more with details on how deadly the vaccine is. And BTW - still waiting for _any_ information on testing cables with PWM..


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On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 9:17:52 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 10:50:05 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 6:01:43 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 5:07:33 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:37:16 PM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail..com wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 2:47:42 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 11:13:21 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:58:25 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 10:45:42 AM UTC-8, funkma....@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 1:20:22 PM UTC-5, Andre the impotent wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Taking the shots that won't protect you,
> > > > > > > > > but then two posts earlier he wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "all people my age were vaccinated in the impressive rolling vaccination program the government organized."
> > > > > > > > > just gonna leave that there....
> > > > > > > > You're going to leave it at things you don't understand? Good move and highly unusual for you.
> > > > > > > I understand perfectly well, sparky. Though I suppose one could question why andre seemingly willingly took the vaccine "knowing" it would most certainly lead to his imminent death as you like to claim, or is it only democrats that the vaccine kills, or maybe the just americans? OTOH - as far as understanding the world around us tell us again how PWM can be used for testing cables.
> > > > > > Lying is always your trade I suppose but no one takes you seriously so it doesn't much matter does it? No one said that the vaccinations were certain death.
> > > > > You have, several times.
> > > > > > They said that about 0.8% had very serious reaction that could lead to death. Especially in younger people who had
> > > > > > ZERO chances of bad outcomes for the covid-19 virus. They only published dozens of videos of young athletes dropping
> > > > > > dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots in the circulatory systems.
> > > > > > Were some of these natural? Unlikely since they were too young and too athletic to have hardening of the arteries.
> > > > > Publish links to these videos with _credible_ reports that the deaths were results of vaccine induced blodclots, , or shut the fuck up
> > > > > > But you have my permission to continue blathering like the fool you are. With each posting you're becoming progressively more entertaining..
> > > > > right like "They only published dozens of videos of young athletes dropping dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots in the circulatory systems. " You should be a ghost writer for andre's fiction, it's way more entertaining than any of his drivel.
> > > > Can you tell us why you're so convinced of your own intelligence that you can't even look these things up?
> > > Because it's fun watching you post links that disprove your own claims. Helpful hint: learn the difference between myocarditis and myocardial infarction. All the links you posted discuss the former, none of them mention the latter, which _can_ be caused by blood clots.
> > >
> > > > https://www.ajronline.org/doi/10.2214/AJR.21.26853
> > >
> > > Nope. Once again you fail to actually read the links you post. Not only are there no blood clots discussed, but no deaths are reported in this study and the conclusion states "All patients showed cardiac MRI findings typical of myocarditis of other causes." and "The observations do not establish causality."
> > > Strike one.
> > >
> > > > https://truthbasedmedia.com/2022/01/12/autopsy-confirms-26-year-olds-death-from-myocarditis-directly-caused-by-pfizer-covid-vaccine/
> > >
> > > Again, read the links you post, moron.
> > > 1) He wasn't one of "dozens of healthy athlete young athletes dropping dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots". He died from multifocal myocarditis, not Myocardial Infarction.
> > > 2) He was obese (5'9" and 240 pounds = BMI of 35.4), and according to his mother his resting HR was about 80. From your link "when he sat in the recliner, his heart rate dropped into the 60s, which was low for Joseph, who always had a resting heart rate in the 80s and 90s". He wasn't a 'healthy young athlete' by any stretch of the imagination.
> > > 3) Besides being obese, another co-morbidity was his history of Vein of Galen malformation (a type of AVM) in his brain. The autopsy also showed cerebral edema.
> > > Strike 2
> > > > https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-myocarditis-young-men-after-vaccination-happens-is-very-rare-2021-6?op=1 (extremely rare? After 150 million doses of vaccine?)
> > > Yes, sparky, 434 cases after 100 million doses is extremely rare. From your link:
> > > "434 cases of myocarditis have been documented in males from 12-29 years of age, in the 21 days after their second shot. That's a rate of about 0.004%"
> > > Again, inflammation (myocarditis), not blood clots.
> > > Also from your link "Dr. Eliot Peyster, a cardiologist at the University of Pennsylvania, previously told Insider that the incidence of myocarditis from a vaccine is about 100 times lower than the incidence when you actually get [a COVID-19] infection."
> > > Strike 3
> > > > "VAERS confirmed over 6000 additional COVID-19 vaccine death reports" https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/covid-19-vaccine-related-fatalities-updated
> > > Which the link states "Since more than 338 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the USA, this data reflects a vaccination-death ratio of 0.0018%."
> > > No mention of "dozens of healthy athlete young athletes dropping dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots", and the article only briefly mentions myocarditis (1,148 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis among people ages 30 and younger who received a COVID-19 vaccine as of July 19th., or 0004% for both)
> > > >
> > > > You have the intellectual capacity of a sea slug.
> > > Obviously vastly smarter than you, since it took me all of 15 minutes to completely destroy your argument using your own information.
> > > > There is really something wrong with you and it is plain that you don't even know it.
> > > Or maybe the problem is with the addled old high-school dropout who claimed ""dozens of healthy athlete young athletes dropping dead on playing fields within 30 days of being vaccinated from blood clots" then posted four links of which the claim isn't even addressed.
> > > > Perhaps you'll run out and get your next booster and that will be the end of all of your problems.
> > > but tommy, you wrote "No one said that the vaccinations were certain death. " Now they are? make up what little of a mind you have left.
> > > Oh, and shut the fuck up.
> > Head exploding from your ignorance leading to still more loses? https://openvaers.com/covid-data
> No, but your head is obviously exploding because you keep posting links that don't support your claims. It might help if you actually understood the VAERS (helpful hint, set the slide switch to "us/territories" rather than "all", since international reporting data is skewed towards a lower rate.)
>
> Contrary to the bullshit you're trying to peddle here, VAERS doesn't attribute the cause of death to the vaccine. From https://vaers.hhs.gov/:
> "VAERS collects and reviews reports of adverse events that occur after vaccination. An “adverse event” is any health problem or “side effect” that happens after a vaccination. VAERS cannot determine if a vaccine caused an adverse event, but can determine if further investigation is needed."
> It's used to help spot trends, nothing more.
>
> Nothing in that link supports any of your claims let alone refute any of the previous links you listed (which all contradict your claims as well).
> Gee sparky, what's next? Gonna pull the "vaccine death report" which claims it contains "living tentacled organisms" and graphine which alters the human body magnetic field and makes you susceptible to mind control through the 5g cell network? How vaccinated pregnant women give birth to babies with black eyes and are showing highly accelerated aging?
> Or better yet, how the whole vaccine program is a global conspiracy theory in which Bill Gates is being telepathically controlled by a shadow leader behind the Pope Francis called the grey pope - "[the] supreme puppet master operates entirely in the shadows, from where he yields enormous power over the world."!
> Yes folks, this lunacy not only exists in a formal report, but there are people who actually believe it https://nhjournal.com/gops-weyler-pushing-conspiracy-theory-about-creature-with-tentacles-in-vax/
> This time tommy, I'm not going to tell you to shut the fuck up. I want you to keep writing. Entertain us more with details on how deadly the vaccine is. And BTW - still waiting for _any_ information on testing cables with PWM.


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On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 12:20:47 PM UTC-5, William Crowell wrote:
> today in the LA Times:
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> https://news.yahoo.com/abcarian-persuade-willfully-unvaccinated-lives-110533795.html

I don't see much difference between that and laws requiring people to wear pants in public, but at least public nudity doesn't result in unknowingly getting infected with a virus.

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Subject: Re: 45% of Democrats want Concentration Camps for Unvaccinated
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 by: funkma...@hotmail.co - Wed, 19 Jan 2022 17:37 UTC

On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 12:26:56 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:

> As I said, with every posting you get a better comic routine. Even though the US data which is by far the most reliable shows a great deal more deaths via
> reaction to the vaccines you prefer the poor international data.

No, stoopid, I suggested turning the international data OFF. Learn to read.

> I don't give a shit what people are claiming is causing the deaths - they aren't medical people.

Correct, and the medical researchers are the ones claiming it's safe and effective - still not doing much to help your cause skippy....

> But the death rates within 30 days of vaccinations cannot be hidden.

No one is hiding them.

> Oh, wait, you can simply deny that they occurred and they disappear off of the face of the Earth. Fine -

Nope, I willing share all data from VAERS, the CDC, the WHO, across all demographics. Including data for deaths within 30 days. None of that data supports your claim.

> isn't it time you have another booster to save you from that deadly Omicron that has a 1 on 53,000 chance of killing you, if you have one or more serious comorbidities

Since I don't have any comorbidities, I don't have much to worry about.

> whereas if you're out in a thunder storm you have a 1 in 15,000 chance of being killed by lightning?

and, wrong again, as usual https://www.cdc.gov/disasters/lightning/victimdata.html

> I think that it is time that you start another clown show for the readers who are so susceptible to your ignorance.

You're the one failing to support any claims, being proven wrong at every turn, and getting laughed at. We're laughing _at_ you tommy, not with you.

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