Am 26.01.2022 um 04:21 schrieb John B.:

> But, if you read a bit of history it is apparent that it has always
> been the "po folks" that were actually doing the fighting. and, of
> course there always a lot of them. Going back, at least as far as the
> Roman Empire a bloke with a bit of dosh wasn't in the front lines.
> While he might be in the Legions and many of the "Senatorial" and
> "Equestrian" were, they weren't in the front lines where the jabbing
> and stabbing was going on.

This bit is plain wrong:
In ancient Greece, in Rome, in medeival times the Rich never shied away
from fighting, they only shied away from equal fighting.

When everybody was paying for their own weapons and shields, there was
nothing wrong with fighting when it was clear that the peasant's weapons
had no chance of hurting a nobleman's (or knight's) armor: war was as
much fun as hunting.

On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 9:29:33 AM UTC, Rolf Mantel wrote:
> Am 26.01.2022 um 04:21 schrieb John B.:
>
> > But, if you read a bit of history it is apparent that it has always
> > been the "po folks" that were actually doing the fighting. and, of
> > course there always a lot of them. Going back, at least as far as the
> > Roman Empire a bloke with a bit of dosh wasn't in the front lines.
> > While he might be in the Legions and many of the "Senatorial" and
> > "Equestrian" were, they weren't in the front lines where the jabbing
> > and stabbing was going on.
> This bit is plain wrong:
> In ancient Greece, in Rome, in medeival times the Rich never shied away
> from fighting, they only shied away from equal fighting.
>
> When everybody was paying for their own weapons and shields, there was
> nothing wrong with fighting when it was clear that the peasant's weapons
> had no chance of hurting a nobleman's (or knight's) armor: war was as
> much fun as hunting.
>
The Romans even in Imperial times had a far more fluid society than is now appreciated. Neither the senatorial nor the equestrian class was rigid, permanent or impenetrable; in fact, all an equestrian had to do to be derated was refuse to fight, and both classes had to keep up an explicitly stated amount of wealth or be replaced by a family from the clamorous pool of aspirants. In any event, there were fortunes to be made in going fighting. Pompey's fortune, at one time the greatest in Rome, and Julius Ceasar's, were made in administering their conquests. Both of them did their own wet work, shoulder to shoulder with rank and file soldiers.-- AJ
>

On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 5:50:39 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/25/2022 6:27 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 11:51:19 AM UTC-6, AMuzi wrote:
> >> For egregious there's always Milwaukee County:
> >>
> >> https://apnews.com/article/pandemics-voting-milwaukee-virus-outbreak-election-2020-a30427f7dbda4dfaa06d961e50f90561
> >>
> >> Last minute closure of 182 out of 187 polling places. Wonder
> >> if that affected turnout? Just another mystery.
> >> --
> >> Andrew Muzi
> >> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> >> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> >
> > But Andy, your link above was for April 2020 primary voting. Primary voting determines which candidate gets on the general election ballot. The REAL election. And it happened during the early, unknown stages of the Covid infection in April 2020. The story clearly states that all the sites were closed down due to that virus.
> >
> > I would not equate this to Republican legislatures and Republican governors passing laws specifically targeted at black voters in Democrat counties. If a school building that was going to be used for voting was destroyed by a tornado the night before, is that voter suppression?
> >
> Brennan Center left enough for you?
>
> https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/did-consolidating-polling-places-milwaukee-depress-turnout
>
> "Polling place closures did reduce turnout in the 2020
> primary election. The table above indicates that turnout in
> Milwaukee City was depressed by roughly 8.6 percentage
> points. Considering that 26 percent of our control voters
> cast a ballot, this implies that polling place closures in
> the city reduced turnout by a third.
>
> Of particular note, we found that this effect was larger for
> Black voters. Although polling place consolidation decreased
> turnout among non-Black voters by around 8.5 percentage
> points, it reduced turnout among Black voters by 10.2
> percentage points."
>
> On to the November 2020 general election:
> https://www.channel3000.com/most-polling-sites-in-wisconsin-will-be-open-nov-3-but-a-few-gaps-remain/
>
> " “I think it is a form of voter suppression. I really do,”
> said Zielinski, who already has submitted her absentee
> ballot, but worries about how the move will affect her
> neighbors in the city of about 18,000 south of Milwaukee."

Andrew, you're shouting into the wind. The entire purpose of reducing polling places is to make them more difficult to get to and that means that blacks, being a larger proportion of the poor, are excluded. I have watched over the years as the Republicans have fixed this problem with more and more accessible polling places have been created only to watch the Democrats do precisely the opposite. After this last election in California it was plain that they were clearly fraudulently fixing the votes. Our voting machines did not have to be connected to the internet. Then clearly counted the votes and these machines could have been taken to a central location and hooked into a vote gathering computer without the Internet and count every vote accurately. This could not be countenanced in the Democrat run states since it makes election fraud so difficult. It has been especially hard for Democrats to portray Trump supporters as rich and privileged when studies have shown exactly the opposite. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/education-not-income-predicted-who-would-vote-for-trump/ Having grown up and living around blacks my entire life, I am especially sensitive to the Democrats who were total supporters of the KKK like to pretend that it is the Republicans who are racist.

On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 7:53:00 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 1/25/2022 7:12 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Vox is a left wing source, as unfavorable language as possible, which
> > you note. Comment aside, Mr Trump's numbers went up.
> >
> > If the prior Administration was so economically inept, unfair and
> > racist, why did his numbers improve?
> >
> > He also improved with so-called Hispanic and not only Cubans:
> > https://www.as-coa.org/articles/chart-how-us-latinos-voted-2020-presidential-election
> >
> >
> > Did you notice the fervid Vietnamese support at Trump rallies? I did:
> > https://www.vox.com/first-person/2020/10/30/21540263/vietnamese-american-support-trump-2020
> >
> >
> > Not trying to argue the last election.
> >
> > I only wonder if things were so horrible for 'disadvanted' groups, why
> > did his numbers go up?
> A couple points: You've fixated on the fact that Trump's black vote
> increased by a couple percent. But he still got less than 10% of the
> black vote.
>
> You mention that his standing improved with Hispanics. But the great
> majority of Hispanic voters opposed him.
>
> IOW, mathematically you're looking at the first derivative. Sorry,
> that's not what matters. What matters is relative magnitude.
>
> And from your Vox source: "Vietnamese Americans were the only enclave to
> express more support for Trump (48 percent) than Biden (36 percent)."
>
> I don't currently have contact with Vietnamese Americans. I can't
> comment on their politics. But if they were "the ONLY enclave" I
> wouldn't attach much significance to their views.
>
> Why did they like Trump? Why did a couple percent more blacks vote for
> him? It hardly matters; many people are easily deceived, and those tiny
> blips are not proof that Trump was in any way worthy of the office.

Frank, as usual you feel the need to lie because you haven't a point. The couple of points increase in the black vote was over the entire population and they are 13% of the population. So a "coiple of points" increase was a LARGE segment of the black vote. Precisely why are you rolling out you racism when it is so easily shown?

On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 3:56:31 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 9:29:33 AM UTC, Rolf Mantel wrote:
> > Am 26.01.2022 um 04:21 schrieb John B.:
> >
> > > But, if you read a bit of history it is apparent that it has always
> > > been the "po folks" that were actually doing the fighting. and, of
> > > course there always a lot of them. Going back, at least as far as the
> > > Roman Empire a bloke with a bit of dosh wasn't in the front lines.
> > > While he might be in the Legions and many of the "Senatorial" and
> > > "Equestrian" were, they weren't in the front lines where the jabbing
> > > and stabbing was going on.
> > This bit is plain wrong:
> > In ancient Greece, in Rome, in medeival times the Rich never shied away
> > from fighting, they only shied away from equal fighting.
> >
> > When everybody was paying for their own weapons and shields, there was
> > nothing wrong with fighting when it was clear that the peasant's weapons
> > had no chance of hurting a nobleman's (or knight's) armor: war was as
> > much fun as hunting.
> >
> The Romans even in Imperial times had a far more fluid society than is now appreciated. Neither the senatorial nor the equestrian class was rigid, permanent or impenetrable; in fact, all an equestrian had to do to be derated was refuse to fight, and both classes had to keep up an explicitly stated amount of wealth or be replaced by a family from the clamorous pool of aspirants. In any event, there were fortunes to be made in going fighting. Pompey's fortune, at one time the greatest in Rome, and Julius Ceasar's, were made in administering their conquests. Both of them did their own wet work, shoulder to shoulder with rank and file soldiers.-- AJ
> >

Try and picture Frank, Flunky, or the other large mouths here fighting with anything other than their mouths. When I visited my NCIS friend in Phoenix he made the mistake of taking me to a rifle range, It was one of those where targets would pop up out of nowhere. Now, he could have done very well with a pistol but this was a rifle. I hit every target and after he finally gave up I took out all of his targets as well. I am also of the level of a sniper and can hit 800 yard targets with open sights and in the black with a telescopic sights. Having grown up around guns I was never afraid of them as the Democrats are trying to miseducate the younger generation to. The idea that you cannot protect yourself with a gun is the sort of thing that the Democrats love to spread.

On 1/25/2022 11:51 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

<snip>

> Same here. While my primary function was design, I still was involved
> in writing and editing manuals, specifications, FCC type
> certifications, product specs for specs, and other activities. The
> companies I worked for did not have the staff to do such things or the
> money to hire specialized consultants. If someone was available, they
> ended up with the task.

Some companies I worked for had departments for this, but still the
engineers had to do much of the work, writing content and reviewing manuals.

I also had to creating training programs with a lot of writing. When the
company I worked for, which did mainly analog chips, branched out into
x86 CPUs and other digital chips, I had to travel around the world
training our FAEs, and I made them do hands-on stuff, not just listen to
me speak.

On 1/25/2022 11:32 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
> ...

Too boring to read.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 2:54:01 PM UTC-5, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 09:09:36 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >When I visited my NCIS friend in Phoenix he made the mistake of taking me to a rifle range, It was one of those where targets would pop up out of nowhere. Now, he could have done very well with a pistol but this was a rifle. I hit every target and after he finally gave up I took out all of his targets as well. I am also of the level of a sniper and can hit 800 yard targets with open sights and in the black with a telescopic sights.
> That's odd. I don't recall you mentioning this alleged expertise as a
> sniper when you engaged in a debate with John B. on handgun targets
> and ranges. Did I miss something?

No, he's telling more Tommy's Tall Tales as usual. He's no more of a marksman than trump is an ethical business person. He has threatened people here with his ability as a marksman before, but that - like every other threat of physical violence he's made here - has a much weight as anything on his resume.

On 1/26/2022 1:53 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 09:09:36 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> When I visited my NCIS friend in Phoenix he made the mistake of taking me to a rifle range, It was one of those where targets would pop up out of nowhere. Now, he could have done very well with a pistol but this was a rifle. I hit every target and after he finally gave up I took out all of his targets as well. I am also of the level of a sniper and can hit 800 yard targets with open sights and in the black with a telescopic sights.
>
> That's odd. I don't recall you mentioning this alleged expertise as a
> sniper when you engaged in a debate with John B. on handgun targets
> and ranges. Did I miss something?
>
> It is written that the pen is mightier than the sword.
>
> If I seem a bit more irritating than usual, it's because a neighbor is
> having a tree service drop several huge fir trees from his property.
> All I've heard this morning is almost continuous yelling in Spanish,
> chain saws running, and an ocassional chipper. The project is
> estimated to take two weeks. Grrr...
>
>

I'm sure every job and its surrounding area present unique
troubles but our neighbor finally removed the overhanging
trees above our building in just a couple of hours:

http://www.yellowjersey.org/877/notree.html

Very impressive crew and very fast work.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 6:22:15 PM UTC, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 1/25/2022 11:32 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
> > ...
>
> Too boring to read.
>
> --
> - Frank Krygowski
>
Frank-boy claims to be a retired college professor, but he admits that a single paragraph is too long for him to read. Here it is, every one of its measly 115 words, including my initials:
>
"The Romans even in Imperial times had a far more fluid society than is now appreciated. Neither the senatorial nor the equestrian class was rigid, permanent or impenetrable; in fact, all an equestrian had to do to be derated was refuse to fight, and both classes had to keep up an explicitly stated amount of wealth or be replaced by a family from the clamorous pool of aspirants. In any event, there were fortunes to be made in going fighting. Pompey's fortune, at one time the greatest in Rome, and Julius Ceasar's, were made in administering their conquests. Both of them did their own wet work, shoulder to shoulder with rank and file soldiers.-- AJ"
>
What a worthless wanker this creep Krygowski is.
>
Andre Jute
Pity the poor Illiterate, Frank Krygowski.

On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 2:01:00 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 6:22:15 PM UTC, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > On 1/25/2022 11:32 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
> > > ...
> >
> > Too boring to read.
> >
> > --
> > - Frank Krygowski
> >
> Frank-boy claims to be a retired college professor, but he admits that a single paragraph is too long for him to read. Here it is, every one of its measly 115 words, including my initials:
> >
> "The Romans even in Imperial times had a far more fluid society than is now appreciated. Neither the senatorial nor the equestrian class was rigid, permanent or impenetrable; in fact, all an equestrian had to do to be derated was refuse to fight, and both classes had to keep up an explicitly stated amount of wealth or be replaced by a family from the clamorous pool of aspirants. In any event, there were fortunes to be made in going fighting. Pompey's fortune, at one time the greatest in Rome, and Julius Ceasar's, were made in administering their conquests. Both of them did their own wet work, shoulder to shoulder with rank and file soldiers.-- AJ"
> >
> What a worthless wanker this creep Krygowski is.

Franky has been claiming that he was an engineer when I couldn't define him as such. Teaching engineering is NOT being a engineer. A lot of engineering classes have been taught by people who were not engineers because teaching is not necessarily being.

On 1/26/2022 3:18 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/26/2022 1:53 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>
>> If I seem a bit more irritating than usual, it's because a neighbor is
>> having a tree service drop several huge fir trees from his property.
>> All I've heard this morning is almost continuous yelling in Spanish,
>> chain saws running, and an ocassional chipper.  The project is
>> estimated to take two weeks.  Grrr...
>>
>>
>
> I'm sure every job and its surrounding area present unique troubles but
> our neighbor finally removed the overhanging trees above our building in
> just a couple of hours:
>
> http://www.yellowjersey.org/877/notree.html
>
> Very impressive crew and very fast work.

We very sadly had some tall ash trees removed a couple years ago. The
company we hired had a very impressive bit of technology, nicknamed a
"Spider."

Here it is being driven down into our back yard:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/16972296@N08/51844014037/in/dateposted-public/

and here it is extended most of the way upward:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/16972296@N08/51844014517/in/dateposted-public/

Bonus: Note the lack of dead bodies under our swing set! ;-)

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 10:29:31 +0100, Rolf Mantel
<news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:

>Am 26.01.2022 um 04:21 schrieb John B.:
>
>> But, if you read a bit of history it is apparent that it has always
>> been the "po folks" that were actually doing the fighting. and, of
>> course there always a lot of them. Going back, at least as far as the
>> Roman Empire a bloke with a bit of dosh wasn't in the front lines.
>> While he might be in the Legions and many of the "Senatorial" and
>> "Equestrian" were, they weren't in the front lines where the jabbing
>> and stabbing was going on.
>
>This bit is plain wrong:
>In ancient Greece, in Rome, in medeival times the Rich never shied away
>from fighting, they only shied away from equal fighting.
>
Please note that I specified "empire" and read a bit of history.

>When everybody was paying for their own weapons and shields, there was
>nothing wrong with fighting when it was clear that the peasant's weapons
>had no chance of hurting a nobleman's (or knight's) armor: war was as
>much fun as hunting.

Again please read a bit of history. As for "no chance" I might offer
The Battle of Thermopile when even the King of Sparta, who would have
had the best of armor was killed and some centuries later King Richard
III, king of England who, again would have had the finest armor
available. And even later the Battle of Agincourt killed as many as
3,000 of the French nobility who again would have had the finest
armor.

--
Cheers,

John B.

On 1/26/2022 4:43 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 1/26/2022 3:18 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 1/26/2022 1:53 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>>
>>> If I seem a bit more irritating than usual, it's because
>>> a neighbor is
>>> having a tree service drop several huge fir trees from
>>> his property.
>>> All I've heard this morning is almost continuous yelling
>>> in Spanish,
>>> chain saws running, and an ocassional chipper. The
>>> project is
>>> estimated to take two weeks. Grrr...
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I'm sure every job and its surrounding area present unique
>> troubles but our neighbor finally removed the overhanging
>> trees above our building in just a couple of hours:
>>
>> http://www.yellowjersey.org/877/notree.html
>>
>> Very impressive crew and very fast work.
>
> We very sadly had some tall ash trees removed a couple years
> ago. The company we hired had a very impressive bit of
> technology, nicknamed a "Spider."
>
> Here it is being driven down into our back yard:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/16972296@N08/51844014037/in/dateposted-public/
>
>
> and here it is extended most of the way upward:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/16972296@N08/51844014517/in/dateposted-public/
>
>
> Bonus: Note the lack of dead bodies under our swing set! ;-)
>
>
>

OK, that's cool.
Exactly what you need in a knife fight.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 1/26/2022 4:54 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 10:29:31 +0100, Rolf Mantel
> <news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:
>
>> Am 26.01.2022 um 04:21 schrieb John B.:
>>
>>> But, if you read a bit of history it is apparent that it has always
>>> been the "po folks" that were actually doing the fighting. and, of
>>> course there always a lot of them. Going back, at least as far as the
>>> Roman Empire a bloke with a bit of dosh wasn't in the front lines.
>>> While he might be in the Legions and many of the "Senatorial" and
>>> "Equestrian" were, they weren't in the front lines where the jabbing
>>> and stabbing was going on.
>>
>> This bit is plain wrong:
>> In ancient Greece, in Rome, in medeival times the Rich never shied away
>>from fighting, they only shied away from equal fighting.
>>
> Please note that I specified "empire" and read a bit of history.
>
>> When everybody was paying for their own weapons and shields, there was
>> nothing wrong with fighting when it was clear that the peasant's weapons
>> had no chance of hurting a nobleman's (or knight's) armor: war was as
>> much fun as hunting.
>
> Again please read a bit of history. As for "no chance" I might offer
> The Battle of Thermopile when even the King of Sparta, who would have
> had the best of armor was killed and some centuries later King Richard
> III, king of England who, again would have had the finest armor
> available. And even later the Battle of Agincourt killed as many as
> 3,000 of the French nobility who again would have had the finest
> armor.
>

+1
Or in Mr Sherman's words, 'War is hell'

https://dustyoldthing.com/smashed-armor-battle-of-waterloo/

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 09:09:36 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 3:56:31 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
>> On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 9:29:33 AM UTC, Rolf Mantel wrote:
>> > Am 26.01.2022 um 04:21 schrieb John B.:
>> >
>> > > But, if you read a bit of history it is apparent that it has always
>> > > been the "po folks" that were actually doing the fighting. and, of
>> > > course there always a lot of them. Going back, at least as far as the
>> > > Roman Empire a bloke with a bit of dosh wasn't in the front lines.
>> > > While he might be in the Legions and many of the "Senatorial" and
>> > > "Equestrian" were, they weren't in the front lines where the jabbing
>> > > and stabbing was going on.
>> > This bit is plain wrong:
>> > In ancient Greece, in Rome, in medeival times the Rich never shied away
>> > from fighting, they only shied away from equal fighting.
>> >
>> > When everybody was paying for their own weapons and shields, there was
>> > nothing wrong with fighting when it was clear that the peasant's weapons
>> > had no chance of hurting a nobleman's (or knight's) armor: war was as
>> > much fun as hunting.
>> >
>> The Romans even in Imperial times had a far more fluid society than is now appreciated. Neither the senatorial nor the equestrian class was rigid, permanent or impenetrable; in fact, all an equestrian had to do to be derated was refuse to fight, and both classes had to keep up an explicitly stated amount of wealth or be replaced by a family from the clamorous pool of aspirants. In any event, there were fortunes to be made in going fighting. Pompey's fortune, at one time the greatest in Rome, and Julius Ceasar's, were made in administering their conquests. Both of them did their own wet work, shoulder to shoulder with rank and file soldiers.-- AJ
>> >
>
>Try and picture Frank, Flunky, or the other large mouths here fighting with anything other than their mouths. When I visited my NCIS friend in Phoenix he made the mistake of taking me to a rifle range, It was one of those where targets would pop up out of nowhere. Now, he could have done very well with a pistol but this was a rifle. I hit every target and after he finally gave up I took out all of his targets as well. I am also of the level of a sniper and can hit 800 yard targets with open sights and in the black with a telescopic sights. Having grown up around guns I was never afraid of them as the Democrats are trying to miseducate the younger generation to. The idea that you cannot protect yourself with a gun is the sort of thing that the Democrats love to spread.

A little more evidence is needed.

Where and what is this range, apparently in Phoenix where targets "pop
up" and at what range are they?

And your thrilling account of shooting at 800 years with open sights?
NRA standard courses of fire are up to 1,000 yards with iron sights.

What is the "level of a sniper"?

And what caliber rifle were you using?

I might add that over the years I've known some chaps that were, one
might say, professional rifle shots, or at least they were members of
U.S.A.F. rifle teams and they spent considerable time practicing at
various ranges.

You, on the other hand, apparently just came prancing in the door,
flopped down and with a strange gun started popping them off... and
hit the target, no aiming shots to get the sights set, nothing, just
Wham, Bam, and thank you Ma am.

Tommy the only question is are you lying? Or is this simply a matter
of your dreams?
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 2022-01-26, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 09:09:36 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
><cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>When I visited my NCIS friend in Phoenix he made the mistake of taking me to a rifle range, It was one of those where targets would pop up out of nowhere. Now, he could have done very well with a pistol but this was a rifle. I hit every target and after he finally gave up I took out all of his targets as well. I am also of the level of a sniper and can hit 800 yard targets with open sights and in the black with a telescopic sights.
>
> That's odd. I don't recall you mentioning this alleged expertise as a
> sniper when you engaged in a debate with John B. on handgun targets
> and ranges. Did I miss something?
>
> It is written that the pen is mightier than the sword.
>
> If I seem a bit more irritating than usual, it's because a neighbor is
> having a tree service drop several huge fir trees from his property.
> All I've heard this morning is almost continuous yelling in Spanish,
> chain saws running, and an ocassional chipper. The project is
> estimated to take two weeks. Grrr...
>
>

Maybe it would be more palatable if they would agree to buck and stack a few
cords of the output for your use?

Severeral trees makes it seem that that could be possible.

In the meantime, more time in the coffee shops w/ a Chromebook, I guess.

pH

On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 16:50:17 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 1/26/2022 4:54 PM, John B. wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 10:29:31 +0100, Rolf Mantel
>> <news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 26.01.2022 um 04:21 schrieb John B.:
>>>
>>>> But, if you read a bit of history it is apparent that it has always
>>>> been the "po folks" that were actually doing the fighting. and, of
>>>> course there always a lot of them. Going back, at least as far as the
>>>> Roman Empire a bloke with a bit of dosh wasn't in the front lines.
>>>> While he might be in the Legions and many of the "Senatorial" and
>>>> "Equestrian" were, they weren't in the front lines where the jabbing
>>>> and stabbing was going on.
>>>
>>> This bit is plain wrong:
>>> In ancient Greece, in Rome, in medeival times the Rich never shied away
>>>from fighting, they only shied away from equal fighting.
>>>
>> Please note that I specified "empire" and read a bit of history.
>>
>>> When everybody was paying for their own weapons and shields, there was
>>> nothing wrong with fighting when it was clear that the peasant's weapons
>>> had no chance of hurting a nobleman's (or knight's) armor: war was as
>>> much fun as hunting.
>>
>> Again please read a bit of history. As for "no chance" I might offer
>> The Battle of Thermopile when even the King of Sparta, who would have
>> had the best of armor was killed and some centuries later King Richard
>> III, king of England who, again would have had the finest armor
>> available. And even later the Battle of Agincourt killed as many as
>> 3,000 of the French nobility who again would have had the finest
>> armor.
>>
>
>+1
>Or in Mr Sherman's words, 'War is hell'
>
>https://dustyoldthing.com/smashed-armor-battle-of-waterloo/

I looked up the ballistics of a 9 lb cannon that was said to have
"damaged" the armor shown. A 9 lb ball is about 4.25 inches in
diameter with a muzzle velocity of 1,330 ft/sec and a range of 3,500
yards (or nearly 2 miles).
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 5:43:36 PM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 1/26/2022 3:18 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> > On 1/26/2022 1:53 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> >>
> >> If I seem a bit more irritating than usual, it's because a neighbor is
> >> having a tree service drop several huge fir trees from his property.
> >> All I've heard this morning is almost continuous yelling in Spanish,
> >> chain saws running, and an ocassional chipper. The project is
> >> estimated to take two weeks. Grrr...
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I'm sure every job and its surrounding area present unique troubles but
> > our neighbor finally removed the overhanging trees above our building in
> > just a couple of hours:
> >
> > http://www.yellowjersey.org/877/notree.html
> >
> > Very impressive crew and very fast work.
> We very sadly had some tall ash trees removed a couple years ago. The
> company we hired had a very impressive bit of technology, nicknamed a
> "Spider."
>

We had 3 very large ash trees removed a couple of years ago. Turns out there was a blight caused by the Emerald Ash Borer that killed off pretty much every ash tree in our area. WE still have a couple on our property but left them as they didn't pose any threat to our home, fencing, or swimming pool.. The crew used the same 'spider' machine to get the ones inside the pool fence.

On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 5:01:00 PM UTC-5, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 6:22:15 PM UTC, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > On 1/25/2022 11:32 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
> > > ...
> >
> > Too boring to read.
> >
> > --
> > - Frank Krygowski
> >
> Frank-boy claims to be a retired college professor, but he admits that a single paragraph is too long for him to read.

No, skippy, he claimed it was too boring to read (Like pretty much everything you've ever written). Tommy is the one who completely misinterprets what is written then makes up lies about it. Don't be a tommy.

<snipped typical boring shit from andre>

> >
> What a worthless wanker this creep Krygowski is.

More worthless than a has-been writer who lives off the irish socialist teat yet incessantly complains about american attempts to impliment social programs? I think the wrthless creepy wanker exists in the jute bathroom mirror.

> Andre Jute
> Pity the poor Illiterate, Frank Krygowski.

Pity the poor hypocrite andre the impotent.

On Wednesday, January 26, 2022 at 5:25:01 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Franky has been claiming that he was an engineer when I couldn't define him as such.

Do you really think anyone here gives a flying fuck what you define any as? You're an illiterate idiot. Your opinion is worth less than andres morning dump.

On 1/27/2022 8:20 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
> We had 3 very large ash trees removed a couple of years ago. Turns out there was a blight caused by the Emerald Ash Borer that killed off pretty much every ash tree in our area. WE still have a couple on our property but left them as they didn't pose any threat to our home, fencing, or swimming pool. The crew used the same 'spider' machine to get the ones inside the pool fence.

It's an amazing bit of technology. Lots of fun to watch!

If the dead trees don't pose any threat, it's good to leave them up.
"Snags" can be important as homes for various species.

One thing to watch: Dead ash trees are prone to decay rapidly at or just
below ground level, then topple without warning.

A friend once asked me to design a treehouse for his kids, to perch atop
the 8 foot tall trunk that he'd left standing when his large ash tree
died. When I learned about the root rot problem, I redesigned the
treehouse and we built it elsewhere on his property.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 9:40:29 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 1/27/2022 8:20 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > We had 3 very large ash trees removed a couple of years ago. Turns out there was a blight caused by the Emerald Ash Borer that killed off pretty much every ash tree in our area. WE still have a couple on our property but left them as they didn't pose any threat to our home, fencing, or swimming pool. The crew used the same 'spider' machine to get the ones inside the pool fence.
> It's an amazing bit of technology. Lots of fun to watch!
>
> If the dead trees don't pose any threat, it's good to leave them up.
> "Snags" can be important as homes for various species.
>
> One thing to watch: Dead ash trees are prone to decay rapidly at or just
> below ground level, then topple without warning.
>
> A friend once asked me to design a treehouse for his kids, to perch atop
> the 8 foot tall trunk that he'd left standing when his large ash tree
> died. When I learned about the root rot problem, I redesigned the
> treehouse and we built it elsewhere on his property.
>
>
> --
> - Frank Krygowski
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6kmm70ji5c Democrats at play

On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 12:45:25 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 9:40:29 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > On 1/27/2022 8:20 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > We had 3 very large ash trees removed a couple of years ago. Turns out there was a blight caused by the Emerald Ash Borer that killed off pretty much every ash tree in our area. WE still have a couple on our property but left them as they didn't pose any threat to our home, fencing, or swimming pool. The crew used the same 'spider' machine to get the ones inside the pool fence.
> > It's an amazing bit of technology. Lots of fun to watch!
> >
> > If the dead trees don't pose any threat, it's good to leave them up.
> > "Snags" can be important as homes for various species.
> >
> > One thing to watch: Dead ash trees are prone to decay rapidly at or just
> > below ground level, then topple without warning.
> >
> > A friend once asked me to design a treehouse for his kids, to perch atop
> > the 8 foot tall trunk that he'd left standing when his large ash tree
> > died. When I learned about the root rot problem, I redesigned the
> > treehouse and we built it elsewhere on his property.
> >
> >
> > --
> > - Frank Krygowski
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6kmm70ji5c Democrats at play

Tommy at play:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stMrXhB711E

Too bad they let you out of your cage

On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 10:17:06 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 12:45:25 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 9:40:29 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > > On 1/27/2022 8:20 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We had 3 very large ash trees removed a couple of years ago. Turns out there was a blight caused by the Emerald Ash Borer that killed off pretty much every ash tree in our area. WE still have a couple on our property but left them as they didn't pose any threat to our home, fencing, or swimming pool. The crew used the same 'spider' machine to get the ones inside the pool fence.
> > > It's an amazing bit of technology. Lots of fun to watch!
> > >
> > > If the dead trees don't pose any threat, it's good to leave them up.
> > > "Snags" can be important as homes for various species.
> > >
> > > One thing to watch: Dead ash trees are prone to decay rapidly at or just
> > > below ground level, then topple without warning.
> > >
> > > A friend once asked me to design a treehouse for his kids, to perch atop
> > > the 8 foot tall trunk that he'd left standing when his large ash tree
> > > died. When I learned about the root rot problem, I redesigned the
> > > treehouse and we built it elsewhere on his property.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > - Frank Krygowski
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6kmm70ji5c Democrats at play
> Tommy at play:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stMrXhB711E
>
> Too bad they let you out of your cage
Yet another example of your courage born of anonymity and distance. I suppose when you are less than nothing people like you are forced to pretend otherwise.