On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 4:00:24 AM UTC+1, Ralph Barone wrote:
> Frank Krygowski <frkr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > On 2/23/2022 3:27 PM, Ralph Barone wrote:
> >>
> >> I can’t speak for Lou, but after having filtered out all posts BY Tom, and
> >> all replies TO Tom, the majority of off-topic “I don’t care to read this”
> >> posts are ABOUT Tom. I’m not yet ready to invoke a thermonuclear killfile
> >> which deletes all posts where Tom’s name is even mentioned, so I also hope
> >> the discussion drifts away from that topic as well.
> >
> > OK, I'll admit to a personal problem. It's application is not limited to
> > this group, but it is certainly in effect here:
> >
> > More than most people, I tend to notice mistakes. And by reflex, I have
> > a desire to point them out, to correct them.
> >
> > I'll beg for sympathy by noting that correcting mistakes was a major
> > part of my job for decades. I taught subjects that required lots of
> > difficult and detailed computation. My policy was to collect homework
> > _very_ frequently and grade it in detail. Collecting it frequently kept
> > students from slacking off then cramming for tests; and detailed grading
> > gave the frequent feedback and corrections most students needed.
> >
> > As a result, I think my brain's mistake-catching system is
> > overdeveloped. It focuses not only on numbers, but on facts, logic and
> > more. (Hell, I congratulate myself on not correcting spelling mistakes.)
> >
> > I'll try to be better. But I'm not optimistic.
> >
> Hey, I’ve got the same type of brain. But note that in an academic
> situation, especially as a teacher, correcting other people’s mistakes is a
> good thing. Hell, they’re PAYING you to do it, even if they don’t seem
> appreciative at the time. However, in most other parts of the real world,
> there are two criteria:
> 1) Is it appreciated?
> 2) Will it do any good?
>
> You don’t always have to meet #1, but if you can’t meet either of them,
> it’s probably not worth doing. It’s the old Steven Covey “Circle of
> concern” vs “Circle of influence” thing.

It is perfectly OK the follow your brain for bike related subjects. That is what this newsgroup is for. But for controversial non bike related subjects that are already beaten to death it is contra productive and results in name calling as we see here. What the fuck do I care about the value of TK house or a resume of a 77 year old.

Lou

On 2/23/2022 8:49 PM, John B. wrote:
>
> In reading his post the thought did enter my mind, "when looking for a
> girlfriend" does one want a "good" girl or a "bad" girl (:-)

I remember a quote from Mae West. Some woman had remarked on her
jewelry: "Goodness, what beautiful diamonds!"

Mae West: "Goodness had nothing to do with it."

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 5:30:47 PM UTC-5, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
in another country. Likewise with a full education. I assume a college degree in biology or mathematics or mechanical engineering is equal whether its from a college in Germany, Britain, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Qatar, Canada, USA, Peru. Only difference is the student/mind and the language the degree was taught in. I doubt the teaching language has any effect.

The language should have little effect especially in technical subjects. But several decades back I came across a fiercely held opinion about the educational systems.

I was in grad school in the late 70s, and we had a guest lecture from a German professor on some topic I've long since forgotten. But I do remember a claim he made. He said the multiple choice exam had destroyed the American educational system. In his opinion it allows the student to guess, and that is lying. If he had lied he would have been forced out of university.

It was an interesting viewpoint and there is some truth to it. Back in those days I took full advantage of an ability to guess very very well on multiple choice exams, when necessary. (For my engineering degree, i don't recall taking any multiple choice exams. It was all problem solving, show your work for possible partial credit.)

On 2/24/2022 11:55 AM, Tim R wrote:
> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 5:30:47 PM UTC-5, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> in another country. Likewise with a full education. I assume a college degree in biology or mathematics or mechanical engineering is equal whether its from a college in Germany, Britain, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Qatar, Canada, USA, Peru. Only difference is the student/mind and the language the degree was taught in. I doubt the teaching language has any effect.

Sorry, I disagree, based on my experience both as a student and a
professor. There are significant differences, but I agree that language
is not likely to be the cause.

We recently discussed the cultural differences that caused some from
other countries to demean any hands-on work. And I worked with both
students and faculty members from such cultures who could process
equations just fine, but who had great trouble understanding associated
practicalities.

This didn't apply to all nationalities, and I won't get specific. And it
probably has no relevance to (say) a degree in pure mathematics. But for
mechanical engineering matters with common practicality (as opposed to
very theoretical research efforts), I think there are definite
differences between similar degrees from various nations.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 08:55:41 -0800 (PST), Tim R
<timothy42bach@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 5:30:47 PM UTC-5, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
>in another country. Likewise with a full education. I assume a college degree in
biology or mathematics or mechanical engineering is equal whether its
from a college in Germany, Britain, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Qatar,
Canada, USA, Peru. Only difference is the student/mind and the
language the degree was taught in. I doubt the teaching language has
any effect.
>
>The language should have little effect especially in technical subjects.
But several decades back I came across a fiercely held opinion about
the educational systems.
>
>I was in grad school in the late 70s, and we had a guest lecture from a German professor on some topic I've long since forgotten. But I do remember a claim he made. He said the multiple choice exam had destroyed the American educational system. In his opinion it allows the student to guess, and that is lying. If he had lied he would have been forced out of university.
>
>It was an interesting viewpoint and there is some truth to it. Back in those days I took full advantage of an ability to guess very very well on multiple choice exams, when necessary. (For my engineering degree, i don't recall taking any multiple choice exams. It was all problem solving, show your work for possible partial credit.)

Yes, multi choice allow the student to guess.... But, on the other
hand, it allows the test to be graded easily and most questions other
then very simple questions can be answered in a number of ways.
Which is a the right answer.

For example:
"A Carbon fiber bicycle is better because?"

Or:
"A Carbon fiber bicycle is better because:"

A. It is cheaper
B. It is lighter
C. Andrew Muzi sells it
D. None of the above

--
Cheers,

John B.

On 2/16/2022 11:00 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

<snip>

> I got sloppy this year and left ethanol (E10) gas in one of my better
> chainsaws for about 4 months. Now, it won't start and probably needs
> to have the carburetor cleaned and/or rebuilt with new rubber parts.
>
> Also, the gasoline I have stored for running my generator has to be
> replaced every 3 or 4 months or it won't run the generator. I dump
> the old gas into my car and buy new gas for the generator.
>
> "The Ugly Truth Why Gas Station Fuel Is Bad For Small Engines"
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvps2gF0Sdo>

I was in Lowe's a few weeks ago and noticed that they are selling
ethanol-free gasoline for small engines. It's ridiculously expensive,
but probably less expensive than driving to a place that sells it from a
pump. <https://www.lowes.com/pd/TRUFUEL-1-oz-4-cycle-Fuel/1001851146>.

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:10:46 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>On 2/16/2022 11:00 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> I got sloppy this year and left ethanol (E10) gas in one of my better
>> chainsaws for about 4 months. Now, it won't start and probably needs
>> to have the carburetor cleaned and/or rebuilt with new rubber parts.
>>
>> Also, the gasoline I have stored for running my generator has to be
>> replaced every 3 or 4 months or it won't run the generator. I dump
>> the old gas into my car and buy new gas for the generator.
>>
>> "The Ugly Truth Why Gas Station Fuel Is Bad For Small Engines"
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvps2gF0Sdo>
>
>I was in Lowe's a few weeks ago and noticed that they are selling
>ethanol-free gasoline for small engines. It's ridiculously expensive,
>but probably less expensive than driving to a place that sells it from a
>pump. <https://www.lowes.com/pd/TRUFUEL-1-oz-4-cycle-Fuel/1001851146>.
>
Out of curiosity, dot they still sell "aviation gasoline" that is
ethanol free. I can remember when racing people used to use "aviation
Gas" as it was supposed to produce more horsepower..
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:10:46 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>On 2/16/2022 11:00 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> I got sloppy this year and left ethanol (E10) gas in one of my better
>> chainsaws for about 4 months. Now, it won't start and probably needs
>> to have the carburetor cleaned and/or rebuilt with new rubber parts.
>>
>> Also, the gasoline I have stored for running my generator has to be
>> replaced every 3 or 4 months or it won't run the generator. I dump
>> the old gas into my car and buy new gas for the generator.
>>
>> "The Ugly Truth Why Gas Station Fuel Is Bad For Small Engines"
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvps2gF0Sdo>

>I was in Lowe's a few weeks ago and noticed that they are selling
>ethanol-free gasoline for small engines. It's ridiculously expensive,
>but probably less expensive than driving to a place that sells it from a
>pump. <https://www.lowes.com/pd/TRUFUEL-1-oz-4-cycle-Fuel/1001851146>.

I tried TruFuel in my chain saws and had problems. After two years in
the can, it would barely burn. I ignited a little on a metal can lid
and it barely burned (compared to fresh fuel).

I'm currently using overpriced Stihl MotoMix 50:1 at $45/gallon.
<https://www.acehardware.com/departments/automotive-rv-and-marine/fluids-and-lubrication/lubricants/1001500>
One year old fuel still works as well as new. I expect to be
cut-buck-split-haul-stack about 2-3 cords this year, which translates
into about 2 gallons of fuel. That's about $80/year more than if I
used local E10 gasoline with ethanol. That's expensive, but somewhat
balanced by not having to rebuild the carburetors every 2-3 years if
run on E10. I plan to run the trimmer and blower on Motomix because
they use very little gasoline. The generator, splitter and borrowed
chipper, will be run on E10 because they use more fuel. I've been
very careful to remove all the fuel between uses. I also drain the
bottom of the tank and fuel bowl to remove any water.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On 4/28/2022 6:23 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:10:46 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/16/2022 11:00 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> I got sloppy this year and left ethanol (E10) gas in one of my better
>>> chainsaws for about 4 months. Now, it won't start and probably needs
>>> to have the carburetor cleaned and/or rebuilt with new rubber parts.
>>>
>>> Also, the gasoline I have stored for running my generator has to be
>>> replaced every 3 or 4 months or it won't run the generator. I dump
>>> the old gas into my car and buy new gas for the generator.
>>>
>>> "The Ugly Truth Why Gas Station Fuel Is Bad For Small Engines"
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvps2gF0Sdo>
>>
>> I was in Lowe's a few weeks ago and noticed that they are selling
>> ethanol-free gasoline for small engines. It's ridiculously expensive,
>> but probably less expensive than driving to a place that sells it from a
>> pump. <https://www.lowes.com/pd/TRUFUEL-1-oz-4-cycle-Fuel/1001851146>.
>>
> Out of curiosity, dot they still sell "aviation gasoline" that is
> ethanol free. I can remember when racing people used to use "aviation
> Gas" as it was supposed to produce more horsepower..
>

Yes, AvGas and hotrods have along history, which continues
today.
Technically it's a Federal tax violation to run AvGas in a
motor vehicle on public roads.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 20:30:01 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 4/28/2022 6:23 PM, John B. wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:10:46 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/16/2022 11:00 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> I got sloppy this year and left ethanol (E10) gas in one of my better
>>>> chainsaws for about 4 months. Now, it won't start and probably needs
>>>> to have the carburetor cleaned and/or rebuilt with new rubber parts.
>>>>
>>>> Also, the gasoline I have stored for running my generator has to be
>>>> replaced every 3 or 4 months or it won't run the generator. I dump
>>>> the old gas into my car and buy new gas for the generator.
>>>>
>>>> "The Ugly Truth Why Gas Station Fuel Is Bad For Small Engines"
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvps2gF0Sdo>
>>>
>>> I was in Lowe's a few weeks ago and noticed that they are selling
>>> ethanol-free gasoline for small engines. It's ridiculously expensive,
>>> but probably less expensive than driving to a place that sells it from a
>>> pump. <https://www.lowes.com/pd/TRUFUEL-1-oz-4-cycle-Fuel/1001851146>.
>>>
>> Out of curiosity, dot they still sell "aviation gasoline" that is
>> ethanol free. I can remember when racing people used to use "aviation
>> Gas" as it was supposed to produce more horsepower..
>>
>
>Yes, AvGas and hotrods have along history, which continues
>today.
>Technically it's a Federal tax violation to run AvGas in a
>motor vehicle on public roads.

And, it is undoubtedly a Federal Offence to cheat on your income tax
although I've read that it is practically a national pastime.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 4/28/2022 4:23 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:10:46 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2/16/2022 11:00 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> I got sloppy this year and left ethanol (E10) gas in one of my better
>>> chainsaws for about 4 months. Now, it won't start and probably needs
>>> to have the carburetor cleaned and/or rebuilt with new rubber parts.
>>>
>>> Also, the gasoline I have stored for running my generator has to be
>>> replaced every 3 or 4 months or it won't run the generator. I dump
>>> the old gas into my car and buy new gas for the generator.
>>>
>>> "The Ugly Truth Why Gas Station Fuel Is Bad For Small Engines"
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvps2gF0Sdo>
>>
>> I was in Lowe's a few weeks ago and noticed that they are selling
>> ethanol-free gasoline for small engines. It's ridiculously expensive,
>> but probably less expensive than driving to a place that sells it from a
>> pump. <https://www.lowes.com/pd/TRUFUEL-1-oz-4-cycle-Fuel/1001851146>.
>>
> Out of curiosity, dot they still sell "aviation gasoline" that is
> ethanol free. I can remember when racing people used to use "aviation
> Gas" as it was supposed to produce more horsepower..

Yes, you can buy aviation fuel at an airport that has a general aviation
area. They just recently stopped the sale of leaded aviation fuel in our
area, but they sell 94 octane ethanol-free fuel. After 2030, leaded
aviation fuel will no longer be sold in the U.S..

On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 8:30:05 PM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
> On 4/28/2022 6:23 PM, John B. wrote:
> > On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:10:46 -0700, sms <scharf...@geemail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2/16/2022 11:00 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >>> I got sloppy this year and left ethanol (E10) gas in one of my better
> >>> chainsaws for about 4 months. Now, it won't start and probably needs
> >>> to have the carburetor cleaned and/or rebuilt with new rubber parts.
> >>>
> >>> Also, the gasoline I have stored for running my generator has to be
> >>> replaced every 3 or 4 months or it won't run the generator. I dump
> >>> the old gas into my car and buy new gas for the generator.
> >>>
> >>> "The Ugly Truth Why Gas Station Fuel Is Bad For Small Engines"
> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvps2gF0Sdo>
> >>
> >> I was in Lowe's a few weeks ago and noticed that they are selling
> >> ethanol-free gasoline for small engines. It's ridiculously expensive,
> >> but probably less expensive than driving to a place that sells it from a
> >> pump. <https://www.lowes.com/pd/TRUFUEL-1-oz-4-cycle-Fuel/1001851146>.
> >>
> > Out of curiosity, dot they still sell "aviation gasoline" that is
> > ethanol free. I can remember when racing people used to use "aviation
> > Gas" as it was supposed to produce more horsepower..
> >
> Yes, AvGas and hotrods have along history, which continues
> today.
> Technically it's a Federal tax violation to run AvGas in a
> motor vehicle on public roads.
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971

In Iowa, a farm state, maybe Wisconsin is too, there are local diesel fuel pumps in some towns that sell diesel for agriculture usage. Tractors and combines. No road taxes so cheaper. But it has a dye added to it. Supposedly police or highway patrol or the county Ag Dept official, can stop farmers and check the diesel in their diesel pickup truck. And if they find out you have the wrong colored diesel in your road driven pickup, then you get fined. These are stories I have heard. Not sure anyone ever really gets caught for this or not.

I have one car that requires high octane gas, so I buy VP race gas from the local fuel dealer and mix it with 91 octane pump gas. Sunoco also makes it, and probably other companies do, too. You can also buy race gas at places like Summit Racing, so I must assume that the taxes are paid. It is pretty expensive.

On 4/29/2022 3:26 AM, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> In Iowa, a farm state, maybe Wisconsin is too, there are local diesel fuel pumps in some towns that sell diesel for agriculture usage. Tractors and combines. No road taxes so cheaper. But it has a dye added to it. Supposedly police or highway patrol or the county Ag Dept official, can stop farmers and check the diesel in their diesel pickup truck. And if they find out you have the wrong colored diesel in your road driven pickup, then you get fined. These are stories I have heard. Not sure anyone ever really gets caught for this or not.

Hmm. So are there entrepreneurs selling the dye?

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 3:46:27 PM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 4/29/2022 3:26 AM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > In Iowa, a farm state, maybe Wisconsin is too, there are local diesel fuel pumps in some towns that sell diesel for agriculture usage. Tractors and combines. No road taxes so cheaper. But it has a dye added to it. Supposedly police or highway patrol or the county Ag Dept official, can stop farmers and check the diesel in their diesel pickup truck. And if they find out you have the wrong colored diesel in your road driven pickup, then you get fined. These are stories I have heard. Not sure anyone ever really gets caught for this or not.
> Hmm. So are there entrepreneurs selling the dye?
>
> --
> - Frank Krygowski

Not unless the intent of the entrepreneurs is to lose money. Usually people do not try to lose money.

The CHEAP fuel has the dye added. So if you buy the EXPENSIVE clear diesel fuel and buy the red dye to add to the clear fuel, then overall it will be more expensive. Most people don't try to make things more expensive. Buy expensive item and modify it to make it a cheap item. Not logical. Unless you are Tommy.

The profitable way to do things is to buy the cheaper red dyed agricultural diesel fuel. Less taxes on it. And then remove the red dye. Then make it clear and sell it at the higher clear diesel road taxes paid price. But sell it for a few cents less than everyone else to generate a market demand.. And get rich rich rich.

Only problem with this money making scheme is how to remove the red dye from the agricultural diesel. I did a Google search and found an article that talked about removing the red dye. They did not go into much detail since it is illegal. Tax evasion. But they said they heard stories of people using bread as a filter. Or sitting the diesel out in the sunlight for a long time and that somehow removes the red dye. Or using tampons as a filter.. So it may be possible to remove the red dye from cheap diesel to make it expensive clear diesel. But it requires a lot of work. Probably much easier to make money by getting a real job.

I am sure there is a good way to filter the red dye out of the cheap diesel.. May be expensive to buy and set up the filtering process. But once set up you are guaranteed a profit of whatever the road use taxes are. Looks like the diesel tax for road use is teens to 40 cents. Different for every state. So depending on which state you set up your criminal activity, you could make some money. In addition to the filtering machinery, you would also need to tank trucks to buy the agriculture diesel and transport it to your filter machine. And then use those tank trucks to haul the cleaned diesel to a retail seller so he could sell the clean diesel at a few pennies less than tax paid diesel. The crook is making 10-20-30 cents per gallon depending on the state. How many gallons can you move and filter and move again each day? You could make a few hundred dollars a day in your tax evasion scheme.

Getting caught is almost guaranteed. You are buying and selling hundreds or thousands of gallons of diesel every day. Those records are on the books of someone every day. Its not a hidden deal. Under the table cash only. No. And your red dye removing machine is visible. Can't hide machinery. Its findable. Easy. So even the most corrupt and incompetent police, sheriff would have a hard time not catching and convicting the criminals doing this. And it is a federal and state crime. Felony.

https://igentax.com/gas-tax-state/

There are some, many, a few, ??? people who do commit the crime of using red dye cheaper no road taxes paid diesel in their on road vehicles. They are committing road tax evasion. 20-30-40 cents per gallon burned. They might be cheating the government out of taxes of $5-10 per day. It is a felony crime. But overall its minor. Kind of like sales tax on the merchandise you purchase. Its extra. But the big main cost is the items you buy, not the extra taxes. Worry about the cost of the main item, not the frivolous taxes.

On 4/29/2022 6:07 PM, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 3:46:27 PM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 4/29/2022 3:26 AM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>> In Iowa, a farm state, maybe Wisconsin is too, there are local diesel fuel pumps in some towns that sell diesel for agriculture usage. Tractors and combines. No road taxes so cheaper. But it has a dye added to it. Supposedly police or highway patrol or the county Ag Dept official, can stop farmers and check the diesel in their diesel pickup truck. And if they find out you have the wrong colored diesel in your road driven pickup, then you get fined. These are stories I have heard. Not sure anyone ever really gets caught for this or not.
>> Hmm. So are there entrepreneurs selling the dye?
>>
>> --
>> - Frank Krygowski
>
> Not unless the intent of the entrepreneurs is to lose money. Usually people do not try to lose money.
>
> The CHEAP fuel has the dye added.

Ah! Got it.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 6:07:57 PM UTC-4, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 3:46:27 PM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > On 4/29/2022 3:26 AM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > > In Iowa, a farm state, maybe Wisconsin is too, there are local diesel fuel pumps in some towns that sell diesel for agriculture usage. Tractors and combines. No road taxes so cheaper. But it has a dye added to it. Supposedly police or highway patrol or the county Ag Dept official, can stop farmers and check the diesel in their diesel pickup truck. And if they find out you have the wrong colored diesel in your road driven pickup, then you get fined. These are stories I have heard. Not sure anyone ever really gets caught for this or not.
> > Hmm. So are there entrepreneurs selling the dye?
> >
> > --
> > - Frank Krygowski
> Not unless the intent of the entrepreneurs is to lose money. Usually people do not try to lose money.
>
> The CHEAP fuel has the dye added. So if you buy the EXPENSIVE clear diesel fuel and buy the red dye to add to the clear fuel, then overall it will be more expensive. Most people don't try to make things more expensive. Buy expensive item and modify it to make it a cheap item. Not logical. Unless you are Tommy.
>
> The profitable way to do things is to buy the cheaper red dyed agricultural diesel fuel. Less taxes on it. And then remove the red dye. Then make it clear and sell it at the higher clear diesel road taxes paid price. But sell it for a few cents less than everyone else to generate a market demand. And get rich rich rich.
>
> Only problem with this money making scheme is how to remove the red dye from the agricultural diesel. I did a Google search and found an article that talked about removing the red dye. They did not go into much detail since it is illegal. Tax evasion. But they said they heard stories of people using bread as a filter. Or sitting the diesel out in the sunlight for a long time and that somehow removes the red dye. Or using tampons as a filter. So it may be possible to remove the red dye from cheap diesel to make it expensive clear diesel. But it requires a lot of work. Probably much easier to make money by getting a real job.
>
> I am sure there is a good way to filter the red dye out of the cheap diesel. May be expensive to buy and set up the filtering process. But once set up you are guaranteed a profit of whatever the road use taxes are. Looks like the diesel tax for road use is teens to 40 cents. Different for every state. So depending on which state you set up your criminal activity, you could make some money. In addition to the filtering machinery, you would also need to tank trucks to buy the agriculture diesel and transport it to your filter machine. And then use those tank trucks to haul the cleaned diesel to a retail seller so he could sell the clean diesel at a few pennies less than tax paid diesel. The crook is making 10-20-30 cents per gallon depending on the state. How many gallons can you move and filter and move again each day? You could make a few hundred dollars a day in your tax evasion scheme.
>
> Getting caught is almost guaranteed. You are buying and selling hundreds or thousands of gallons of diesel every day. Those records are on the books of someone every day. Its not a hidden deal. Under the table cash only. No.. And your red dye removing machine is visible. Can't hide machinery. Its findable. Easy. So even the most corrupt and incompetent police, sheriff would have a hard time not catching and convicting the criminals doing this. And it is a federal and state crime. Felony.
>
> https://igentax.com/gas-tax-state/
>
> There are some, many, a few, ??? people who do commit the crime of using red dye cheaper no road taxes paid diesel in their on road vehicles. They are committing road tax evasion. 20-30-40 cents per gallon burned. They might be cheating the government out of taxes of $5-10 per day. It is a felony crime. But overall its minor. Kind of like sales tax on the merchandise you purchase. Its extra. But the big main cost is the items you buy, not the extra taxes. Worry about the cost of the main item, not the frivolous taxes.

It's added to home heating oil as well, for the same reason - cheaper due to lower taxes.

On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 6:10:50 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
> I was in Lowe's a few weeks ago and noticed that they are selling
> ethanol-free gasoline for small engines. It's ridiculously expensive,
> but probably less expensive than driving to a place that sells it from a
> pump. <https://www.lowes.com/pd/TRUFUEL-1-oz-4-cycle-Fuel/1001851146>.

I drive to the next town for ethanol free gas. I figure it is cheaper than buying a new carburetor.

For the weedwacker, and the small amount I used every year, it was worth it to buy the expensive premixed gas-oil mix at Lowes or Home Depot. But i finally gave up and bought a rechargeable.

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:57:05 PM UTC, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 2/8/2022 3:24 PM, Ralph Barone wrote:
> > William Crowell <retrog...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Frank, I really have a wild hair up my buttocks about workout gyms.
> >> Usually they not only won't let you bring your bike inside, but they also
> >> object to your keeping a large lock and chain on the premises. I decided
> >> not to tolerate this kind of disrespect for the customer because it
> >> happened when I inquired about membership at 2 gyms around here. So I
> >> decided to forego the gym workout and just ride my bike instead. The
> >> devil may take the dambed gyms, as far as I am concerned. I guess I just
> >> don't need to get buffed that badly after all.
> >>
> >
> > I think that parking a bicycle outside of a gym is sending the message “Why
> > are you paying money to sweat indoors when you could sweat outside for
> > free.” No wonder they didn’t like you.
> I've never been a gym rat, but I recall watching someone drive around
> and around a gym parking lot waiting to get a parking place close to the
> door.
>
> --
> - Frank Krygowski

Had one shopping center in town with a Gym in the corner. Had no parking fire lane next to the building. Entire zone was filled with cars during the evening. Rumor was most of they were there for the gym.

On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 12:25:09 AM UTC, frkr...@gmail.com wrote:
> My wife and I do a lot of our riding on our tandem. She's begun to have some trouble
> swinging her leg high enough to clear a bike's saddle, but it's not a problem on the
> tandem. I mount first and steady the bike. She can then put her left foot on the pedal at the
> bottom, raising her up a few inches and making that swing easier. I suppose in future years
> we can do the same while placing the cranks horizontal instead of vertical, gaining more
> advantage if needed.
>
> But for me in the front (or "captain") position, there's no such easy option. I've got to
> have my left foot on the ground as kick my leg over my saddle. Or I can use the other
> tandem captain's option, to swing my leg forward over the handlebars. (That has the option
> of never accidentally kicking my stoker.) But either method requires a fair amount of
> flexibility. Fortunately, I haven't yet run into a problem with that.
>
> - Frank Krygowski
I had a used (1980s?) 2x5 27in x 1.25 in steel rim Schwinn bike for riding. Could barely get my leg over the top, so I started by putting the left crank forward, Stepping on the pedal while swinging my leg over the rear wheel and seat. Didn't fall down but did taco two rear wheels. Got a new aluminum rear wheel then gave it away when I got better bikes.

On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 1:50:20 PM UTC-7, timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 6:10:50 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
> > I was in Lowe's a few weeks ago and noticed that they are selling
> > ethanol-free gasoline for small engines. It's ridiculously expensive,
> > but probably less expensive than driving to a place that sells it from a
> > pump. <https://www.lowes.com/pd/TRUFUEL-1-oz-4-cycle-Fuel/1001851146>.
> I drive to the next town for ethanol free gas. I figure it is cheaper than buying a new carburetor.
>
> For the weedwacker, and the small amount I used every year, it was worth it to buy the expensive premixed gas-oil mix at Lowes or Home Depot. But i finally gave up and bought a rechargeable.

The ethanol allows you to have no preignition with larger volumes of cheaply refined gasoline. There are basically two components of gasoline - one that has a very low octane rating and one that has a very high octane rating. The second is a lower component of distillation so it therefore more expensive. So they use less of it in cheap gas and instead use Ethanol which has a high octane rating. Too bad I can no longer remember the chemical compositions.

On Mon, 2 May 2022 12:35:30 -0700 (PDT),
Ann Kunich <elizabethannie.47@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 1:50:20 PM UTC-7, timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 6:10:50 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
> > > I was in Lowe's a few weeks ago and noticed that they are
> > > selling ethanol-free gasoline for small engines. It's
> > > ridiculously expensive, but probably less expensive than
> > > driving to a place that sells it from a pump.
> > > <https://www.lowes.com/pd/TRUFUEL-1-oz-4-cycle-Fuel/1001851146>.
> > I drive to the next town for ethanol free gas. I figure it is
> > cheaper than buying a new carburetor.
> >
> > For the weedwacker, and the small amount I used every year, it
> > was worth it to buy the expensive premixed gas-oil mix at
> > Lowes or Home Depot. But i finally gave up and bought a
> > rechargeable.
>
> The ethanol allows you to have no preignition with larger
> volumes of cheaply refined gasoline. There are basically two
> components of gasoline - one that has a very low octane rating
> and one that has a very high octane rating. The second is a
> lower component of distillation so it therefore more expensive.
> So they use less of it in cheap gas and instead use Ethanol
> which has a high octane rating. Too bad I can no longer
> remember the chemical compositions.

CH3CH2OH

Hope that helps!

--
Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 1:29:11 PM UTC-7, Ted Heise wrote:
> On Mon, 2 May 2022 12:35:30 -0700 (PDT),
> Ann Kunich <elizabet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 1:50:20 PM UTC-7, timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 6:10:50 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
> > > > I was in Lowe's a few weeks ago and noticed that they are
> > > > selling ethanol-free gasoline for small engines. It's
> > > > ridiculously expensive, but probably less expensive than
> > > > driving to a place that sells it from a pump.
> > > > <https://www.lowes.com/pd/TRUFUEL-1-oz-4-cycle-Fuel/1001851146>.
> > > I drive to the next town for ethanol free gas. I figure it is
> > > cheaper than buying a new carburetor.
> > >
> > > For the weedwacker, and the small amount I used every year, it
> > > was worth it to buy the expensive premixed gas-oil mix at
> > > Lowes or Home Depot. But i finally gave up and bought a
> > > rechargeable.
> >
> > The ethanol allows you to have no preignition with larger
> > volumes of cheaply refined gasoline. There are basically two
> > components of gasoline - one that has a very low octane rating
> > and one that has a very high octane rating. The second is a
> > lower component of distillation so it therefore more expensive.
> > So they use less of it in cheap gas and instead use Ethanol
> > which has a high octane rating. Too bad I can no longer
> > remember the chemical compositions.
> CH3CH2OH
>
> Hope that helps!
Perhaps the structures I was thinking about were ethanol (your chemical formula above) and methanol. One has a high octane rating and the other quite low. So they are mixed together to get gasoline of various octane ratings without having to use lead. My teeth have been bad since I was a child. And this is no doubt because at the time tetraethyllead was used as an octane booster in gasoline and it poisons the body by taking the place of calcium and hence children born before the ban on that compound often had very bad teeth and weak bones. I managed to avoid the weak bones but I have spent a fortune on my teeth.

On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 12:01:25 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 1:29:11 PM UTC-7, Ted Heise wrote:
> > On Mon, 2 May 2022 12:35:30 -0700 (PDT),
> > Ann Kunich <elizabet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 1:50:20 PM UTC-7, timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 6:10:50 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
> > > > > I was in Lowe's a few weeks ago and noticed that they are
> > > > > selling ethanol-free gasoline for small engines. It's
> > > > > ridiculously expensive, but probably less expensive than
> > > > > driving to a place that sells it from a pump.
> > > > > <https://www.lowes.com/pd/TRUFUEL-1-oz-4-cycle-Fuel/1001851146>.
> > > > I drive to the next town for ethanol free gas. I figure it is
> > > > cheaper than buying a new carburetor.
> > > >
> > > > For the weedwacker, and the small amount I used every year, it
> > > > was worth it to buy the expensive premixed gas-oil mix at
> > > > Lowes or Home Depot. But i finally gave up and bought a
> > > > rechargeable.
> > >
> > > The ethanol allows you to have no preignition with larger
> > > volumes of cheaply refined gasoline. There are basically two
> > > components of gasoline - one that has a very low octane rating
> > > and one that has a very high octane rating. The second is a
> > > lower component of distillation so it therefore more expensive.
> > > So they use less of it in cheap gas and instead use Ethanol
> > > which has a high octane rating. Too bad I can no longer
> > > remember the chemical compositions.
> > CH3CH2OH
> >
> > Hope that helps!
> Perhaps the structures I was thinking about were ethanol (your chemical formula above) and methanol. One has a high octane rating and the other quite low. So they are mixed together to get gasoline of various octane ratings without having to use lead. My teeth have been bad since I was a child. And this is no doubt because at the time tetraethyllead was used as an octane booster in gasoline and it poisons the body by taking the place of calcium and hence children born before the ban on that compound often had very bad teeth and weak bones. I managed to avoid the weak bones but I have spent a fortune on my teeth.

Lead poisoning....that explains a lot....

On 5/3/2022 12:27 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 12:01:25 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 1:29:11 PM UTC-7, Ted Heise wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2 May 2022 12:35:30 -0700 (PDT),
>>> Ann Kunich <elizabet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 1:50:20 PM UTC-7, timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 6:10:50 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
>>>>>> I was in Lowe's a few weeks ago and noticed that they are
>>>>>> selling ethanol-free gasoline for small engines. It's
>>>>>> ridiculously expensive, but probably less expensive than
>>>>>> driving to a place that sells it from a pump.
>>>>>> <https://www.lowes.com/pd/TRUFUEL-1-oz-4-cycle-Fuel/1001851146>.
>>>>> I drive to the next town for ethanol free gas. I figure it is
>>>>> cheaper than buying a new carburetor.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the weedwacker, and the small amount I used every year, it
>>>>> was worth it to buy the expensive premixed gas-oil mix at
>>>>> Lowes or Home Depot. But i finally gave up and bought a
>>>>> rechargeable.
>>>>
>>>> The ethanol allows you to have no preignition with larger
>>>> volumes of cheaply refined gasoline. There are basically two
>>>> components of gasoline - one that has a very low octane rating
>>>> and one that has a very high octane rating. The second is a
>>>> lower component of distillation so it therefore more expensive.
>>>> So they use less of it in cheap gas and instead use Ethanol
>>>> which has a high octane rating. Too bad I can no longer
>>>> remember the chemical compositions.
>>> CH3CH2OH
>>>
>>> Hope that helps!
>> Perhaps the structures I was thinking about were ethanol (your chemical formula above) and methanol. One has a high octane rating and the other quite low. So they are mixed together to get gasoline of various octane ratings without having to use lead. My teeth have been bad since I was a child. And this is no doubt because at the time tetraethyllead was used as an octane booster in gasoline and it poisons the body by taking the place of calcium and hence children born before the ban on that compound often had very bad teeth and weak bones. I managed to avoid the weak bones but I have spent a fortune on my teeth.
>
>
> Lead poisoning....that explains a lot....

The problem with lead poisoning is the feedback loop. Your IQ keeps
dropping, but you can't figure out why.

--
- Frank Krygowski