On 30/08/2022 23:42, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 22:38:47 +0100, Ken Hart <kwhart1@centurylink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/29/22 10:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:16:18 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 23:46:40 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>
>> snip lots
>>
>>>> How did you learn how to jump out of a plane they just took you up and
>>>> pushed you out did they.
>>>
>>> Not much to it really.  Which angle to jump, which cord to pull, etc.
>>>
>>>>  There was no jumping from small hieghts learning how to fall or
>>>> anything like that ?
>>>>  Well if the queen managed it iat the 2012 olypics it can't be that
>>>> difficult can it.
>>>
>>> The Queen skydived?!
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AS-dCdYZbo
>>
>> About six minutes. I suspect there could have been a stunt double. At
>> least for the Corgi's
>
> Anyone else notice the James Bond actor looks like Putin?

His name is Daniel Craig

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Craig

On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 07:39:41 +0100, David Brooks <David@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 30/08/2022 23:42, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 22:38:47 +0100, Ken Hart <kwhart1@centurylink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/29/22 10:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:16:18 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 23:46:40 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> snip lots
>>>
>>>>> How did you learn how to jump out of a plane they just took you up and
>>>>> pushed you out did they.
>>>>
>>>> Not much to it really. Which angle to jump, which cord to pull, etc.
>>>>
>>>>> There was no jumping from small hieghts learning how to fall or
>>>>> anything like that ?
>>>>> Well if the queen managed it iat the 2012 olypics it can't be that
>>>>> difficult can it.
>>>>
>>>> The Queen skydived?!
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AS-dCdYZbo
>>>
>>> About six minutes. I suspect there could have been a stunt double. At
>>> least for the Corgi's
>>
>> Anyone else notice the James Bond actor looks like Putin?
>
> His name is Daniel Craig
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Craig

Yes, and there are many websites agreeing with me that he looks like Putin.

Sometimes people look the same. I found on Instagram someone in London who is absolutely identical, has the same forename and surname, and is the same age, as a friend of mine who has never left Scotland.

On 31/08/2022 07:53, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 07:39:41 +0100, David Brooks <David@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 30/08/2022 23:42, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 22:38:47 +0100, Ken Hart <kwhart1@centurylink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/29/22 10:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:16:18 +0100, Whisky-dave
>>>>> <whisky.dave@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 23:46:40 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> snip lots
>>>>
>>>>>> How did you learn how to jump out of a plane they just took you up
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> pushed you out did they.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not much to it really.  Which angle to jump, which cord to pull, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>>  There was no jumping from small hieghts learning how to fall or
>>>>>> anything like that ?
>>>>>>  Well if the queen managed it iat the 2012 olypics it can't be that
>>>>>> difficult can it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Queen skydived?!
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AS-dCdYZbo
>>>>
>>>> About six minutes. I suspect there could have been a stunt double. At
>>>> least for the Corgi's
>>>
>>> Anyone else notice the James Bond actor looks like Putin?
>>
>> His name is Daniel Craig
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Craig
>
> Yes, and there are many websites agreeing with me that he looks like Putin.
>
> Sometimes people look the same.  I found on Instagram someone in London
> who is absolutely identical, has the same forename and surname, and is
> the same age, as a friend of mine who has never left Scotland.

You may pull the other one! ;-)

I thought of you last evening when I filmed this short clip:-
https://jumpshare.com/v/xRyAP2kYnZW5s1gX0ExT

D.

On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 08:25:03 +0100, David Brooks <David@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 31/08/2022 07:53, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 07:39:41 +0100, David Brooks <David@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 30/08/2022 23:42, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 22:38:47 +0100, Ken Hart <kwhart1@centurylink.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/29/22 10:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:16:18 +0100, Whisky-dave
>>>>>> <whisky.dave@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 23:46:40 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> snip lots
>>>>>
>>>>>>> How did you learn how to jump out of a plane they just took you up
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> pushed you out did they.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not much to it really. Which angle to jump, which cord to pull, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There was no jumping from small hieghts learning how to fall or
>>>>>>> anything like that ?
>>>>>>> Well if the queen managed it iat the 2012 olypics it can't be that
>>>>>>> difficult can it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Queen skydived?!
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AS-dCdYZbo
>>>>>
>>>>> About six minutes. I suspect there could have been a stunt double. At
>>>>> least for the Corgi's
>>>>
>>>> Anyone else notice the James Bond actor looks like Putin?
>>>
>>> His name is Daniel Craig
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Craig
>>
>> Yes, and there are many websites agreeing with me that he looks like Putin.
>>
>> Sometimes people look the same. I found on Instagram someone in London
>> who is absolutely identical, has the same forename and surname, and is
>> the same age, as a friend of mine who has never left Scotland.
>
> You may pull the other one! ;-)

I was telling the truth. I actually thought it was him and started talking to him, then realised it wasn't him.

> I thought of you last evening when I filmed this short clip:-
> https://jumpshare.com/v/xRyAP2kYnZW5s1gX0ExT

I have never and will never play, listen to, or enjoy the pipes.
Except this: https://youtu.be/cnVjkE87FDY

"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> Anyone else notice the James Bond actor looks like Putin?

And they both like to ham it up. Could they be related?

On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 22:25:58 +0100, Gordon Freeman <Gordon@freeman.invalid> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone else notice the James Bond actor looks like Putin?
>
> And they both like to ham it up. Could they be related?

Putin is winning a world war and the west is too ignorant to see it. Look at the prices of fuel worldwide! You don't fight a war by refusing to buy stuff, you fight a war by blowing stuff up.

On 31/08/2022 21:23, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 08:25:03 +0100, David Brooks <David@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 31/08/2022 07:53, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 07:39:41 +0100, David Brooks <David@invalid.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 30/08/2022 23:42, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 22:38:47 +0100, Ken Hart <kwhart1@centurylink.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/29/22 10:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:16:18 +0100, Whisky-dave
>>>>>>> <whisky.dave@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 23:46:40 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave
>>>>>>>>> <whisk...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> snip lots
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How did you learn how to jump out of a plane they just took you up
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> pushed you out did they.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not much to it really.  Which angle to jump, which cord to pull,
>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  There was no jumping from small hieghts learning how to fall or
>>>>>>>> anything like that ?
>>>>>>>>  Well if the queen managed it iat the 2012 olypics it can't be that
>>>>>>>> difficult can it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Queen skydived?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AS-dCdYZbo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> About six minutes. I suspect there could have been a stunt double. At
>>>>>> least for the Corgi's
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone else notice the James Bond actor looks like Putin?
>>>>
>>>> His name is Daniel Craig
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Craig
>>>
>>> Yes, and there are many websites agreeing with me that he looks like
>>> Putin.
>>>
>>> Sometimes people look the same.  I found on Instagram someone in London
>>> who is absolutely identical, has the same forename and surname, and is
>>> the same age, as a friend of mine who has never left Scotland.
>>
>> You may pull the other one! ;-)
>
> I was telling the truth.  I actually thought it was him and started
> talking to him, then realised it wasn't him.

I was unaware that one can talk to folk on Instagram!

Lesson, please?

>> I thought of you last evening when I filmed this short clip:-
>> https://jumpshare.com/v/xRyAP2kYnZW5s1gX0ExT
>
> I have never and will never play, listen to, or enjoy the pipes.
> Except this: https://youtu.be/cnVjkE87FDY

Haha! :-D Great fun!

On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 22:36:17 +0100, David Brooks <David@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 31/08/2022 21:23, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 08:25:03 +0100, David Brooks <David@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 31/08/2022 07:53, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 07:39:41 +0100, David Brooks <David@invalid.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 30/08/2022 23:42, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 22:38:47 +0100, Ken Hart <kwhart1@centurylink.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/29/22 10:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:16:18 +0100, Whisky-dave
>>>>>>>> <whisky.dave@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 23:46:40 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave
>>>>>>>>>> <whisk...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> snip lots
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How did you learn how to jump out of a plane they just took you up
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> pushed you out did they.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not much to it really. Which angle to jump, which cord to pull,
>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There was no jumping from small hieghts learning how to fall or
>>>>>>>>> anything like that ?
>>>>>>>>> Well if the queen managed it iat the 2012 olypics it can't be that
>>>>>>>>> difficult can it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Queen skydived?!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AS-dCdYZbo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> About six minutes. I suspect there could have been a stunt double. At
>>>>>>> least for the Corgi's
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone else notice the James Bond actor looks like Putin?
>>>>>
>>>>> His name is Daniel Craig
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Craig
>>>>
>>>> Yes, and there are many websites agreeing with me that he looks like
>>>> Putin.
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes people look the same. I found on Instagram someone in London
>>>> who is absolutely identical, has the same forename and surname, and is
>>>> the same age, as a friend of mine who has never left Scotland.
>>>
>>> You may pull the other one! ;-)
>>
>> I was telling the truth. I actually thought it was him and started
>> talking to him, then realised it wasn't him.
>
> I was unaware that one can talk to folk on Instagram!
>
> Lesson, please?

I hardly ever use it. I've used it to talk to him, and to "like" some companies to get free vouchers. When I say talk, I just sent a message.

>>> I thought of you last evening when I filmed this short clip:-
>>> https://jumpshare.com/v/xRyAP2kYnZW5s1gX0ExT
>>
>> I have never and will never play, listen to, or enjoy the pipes.
>> Except this: https://youtu.be/cnVjkE87FDY
>
> Haha! :-D Great fun!

I went to university with a guy that unicycled there. First time I saw him I was locking my bike up, and he appeared on a unicycle. I said "what's wrong with two wheels?", he said "too easy".

On 31/08/2022 22:51, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 22:36:17 +0100, David Brooks <David@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 31/08/2022 21:23, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 08:25:03 +0100, David Brooks <David@invalid.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 31/08/2022 07:53, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 07:39:41 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>> <David@invalid.invalid>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 30/08/2022 23:42, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 22:38:47 +0100, Ken Hart
>>>>>>> <kwhart1@centurylink.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/29/22 10:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:16:18 +0100, Whisky-dave
>>>>>>>>> <whisky.dave@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 23:46:40 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave
>>>>>>>>>>> <whisk...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> snip lots
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How did you learn how to jump out of a plane they just took
>>>>>>>>>> you up
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> pushed you out did they.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not much to it really.  Which angle to jump, which cord to pull,
>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  There was no jumping from small hieghts learning how to fall or
>>>>>>>>>> anything like that ?
>>>>>>>>>>  Well if the queen managed it iat the 2012 olypics it can't be
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> difficult can it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Queen skydived?!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AS-dCdYZbo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> About six minutes. I suspect there could have been a stunt
>>>>>>>> double. At
>>>>>>>> least for the Corgi's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone else notice the James Bond actor looks like Putin?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> His name is Daniel Craig
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Craig
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, and there are many websites agreeing with me that he looks like
>>>>> Putin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes people look the same.  I found on Instagram someone in
>>>>> London
>>>>> who is absolutely identical, has the same forename and surname, and is
>>>>> the same age, as a friend of mine who has never left Scotland.
>>>>
>>>> You may pull the other one! ;-)
>>>
>>> I was telling the truth.  I actually thought it was him and started
>>> talking to him, then realised it wasn't him.
>>
>> I was unaware that one can talk to folk on Instagram!
>>
>> Lesson, please?
>
> I hardly ever use it.  I've used it to talk to him, and to "like" some
> companies to get free vouchers.  When I say talk, I just sent a message.

Ah! I thought you meant like Facebook Messenger. The video/talk facility
there is superb nowadays. We find it better than Apple FaceTime.

>>>> I thought of you last evening when I filmed this short clip:-
>>>> https://jumpshare.com/v/xRyAP2kYnZW5s1gX0ExT
>>>
>>> I have never and will never play, listen to, or enjoy the pipes.
>>> Except this: https://youtu.be/cnVjkE87FDY
>>
>> Haha! :-D  Great fun!
>
> I went to university with a guy that unicycled there.  First time I saw
> him I was locking my bike up, and he appeared on a unicycle.  I said
> "what's wrong with two wheels?", he said "too easy".

Fun! 🙂

On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 23:23:50 +0100, David Brooks <David@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 31/08/2022 22:51, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 22:36:17 +0100, David Brooks <David@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 31/08/2022 21:23, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 08:25:03 +0100, David Brooks <David@invalid.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 31/08/2022 07:53, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 07:39:41 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>> <David@invalid.invalid>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 30/08/2022 23:42, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 22:38:47 +0100, Ken Hart
>>>>>>>> <kwhart1@centurylink.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/22 10:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:16:18 +0100, Whisky-dave
>>>>>>>>>> <whisky.dave@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 23:46:40 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave
>>>>>>>>>>>> <whisk...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> snip lots
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How did you learn how to jump out of a plane they just took
>>>>>>>>>>> you up
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> pushed you out did they.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not much to it really. Which angle to jump, which cord to pull,
>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There was no jumping from small hieghts learning how to fall or
>>>>>>>>>>> anything like that ?
>>>>>>>>>>> Well if the queen managed it iat the 2012 olypics it can't be
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> difficult can it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Queen skydived?!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AS-dCdYZbo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> About six minutes. I suspect there could have been a stunt
>>>>>>>>> double. At
>>>>>>>>> least for the Corgi's
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone else notice the James Bond actor looks like Putin?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> His name is Daniel Craig
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Craig
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, and there are many websites agreeing with me that he looks like
>>>>>> Putin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sometimes people look the same. I found on Instagram someone in
>>>>>> London
>>>>>> who is absolutely identical, has the same forename and surname, and is
>>>>>> the same age, as a friend of mine who has never left Scotland.
>>>>>
>>>>> You may pull the other one! ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I was telling the truth. I actually thought it was him and started
>>>> talking to him, then realised it wasn't him.
>>>
>>> I was unaware that one can talk to folk on Instagram!
>>>
>>> Lesson, please?
>>
>> I hardly ever use it. I've used it to talk to him, and to "like" some
>> companies to get free vouchers. When I say talk, I just sent a message.
>
> Ah! I thought you meant like Facebook Messenger. The video/talk facility
> there is superb nowadays. We find it better than Apple FaceTime.

Anything is better than Apple anything. They even fucked up the jpeg standard of three decades and I keep getting sideways and upside down photos from Iphone users!

On 31/08/2022 23:37, Commander Kinsey wrote:
[....]
> Anything is better than Apple anything.  They even fucked up the jpeg
> standard of three decades and I keep getting sideways and upside down
> photos from Iphone users!

Are you referring to HEIC ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Efficiency_Image_File_Format

It's not JUST for Apple!

On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 23:49:26 +0100, David Brooks <David@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 31/08/2022 23:37, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> [....]
>> Anything is better than Apple anything. They even fucked up the jpeg
>> standard of three decades and I keep getting sideways and upside down
>> photos from Iphone users!

>
> Are you referring to HEIC ?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Efficiency_Image_File_Format
>
> It's not JUST for Apple!

No I'm referring to jpegs. Apple decided they'd add a new proprietary flag at the start of the file saying "this should be displayed rotated 90 degrees to the right", which of course was ignored by everything non-Apple. We were fine before, the file was saved the right way up in the first place, Apple invented something for which there's no known use.

On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 23:49:26 +0100, David Brooks <David@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 31/08/2022 23:37, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> [....]
>> Anything is better than Apple anything. They even fucked up the jpeg
>> standard of three decades and I keep getting sideways and upside down
>> photos from Iphone users!
>
> Are you referring to HEIC ?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Efficiency_Image_File_Format
>
> It's not JUST for Apple!

Again and again Apple screw everything up. And the silly little Apple worshippers suck it in.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/18/22629703/apple-magsafe-charging-mfi-standard-accessory

Almost a year in, Apple’s charging tech has barely trickled out

It’s been almost a year since Apple first debuted the iPhone 12 lineup, and introduced its MagSafe accessory system. So where are all the MagSafe chargers?

Don’t get me wrong. There are plenty of accessory developers making cases, wallets, car mounts, desk stands, and even magnetic Qi chargers and battery packs that work with MagSafe — but almost no actual MagSafe accessories.

And that’s a big difference because of how Apple has designed the MagSafe standard. Anyone can wirelessly charge an iPhone 12 device using a Qi charger at Apple’s standard rate of 7.5W. Magnets, being a physical phenomenon, are even more universal, meaning that device manufacturers can easily stick an iPhone 12 and a Qi charger together. (Many already have.)

The MagSafe Battery Pack looks a little funny on an iPhone 12 Pro Max
But those two things alone don’t make a wireless charger a MagSafe charger; actual, Apple-approved MagSafe chargers offer a charging speed that’s twice as fast, up to 15W. And that’s only available on a paltry handful of accessories: Apple’s official charging cable, Apple’s MagSafe Duo charger, Apple’s official MagSafe battery pack (even then, only when it’s plugged in), and a pair of pricey Belkin stands.

Theoretically, there’s no reason that Apple has to restrict 15W charging to official MagSafe chargers. Any number of Qi chargers are available that offer 15W charging speeds and work with a plethora of devices. Some of them are even made by Apple’s MagSafe-approved partners, leading to awkward product lineups where some MagSafe-capable 15W chargers sit side by side on a website with identical-looking 7.5W, MagSafe-compatible wireless chargers that won’t charge your phone as fast.

This Belkin charger has MagSafe, costs $99, and charges an iPhone 12 at 15W. Image: Belkin
This Belkin charger has magnets, costs $35, and charges an iPhone 12 at 7.5W. Image: Belkin
The reason appears to be simple: Apple hasn’t actually let anyone else make MagSafe chargers yet. According to ChargerLab — a wireless-charging-focused site that’s obtained details and a unit for Apple’s MagSafe modules — Apple is only allowing MagSafe chargers to be built using an MFi-approved module.

Much like the Apple Watch charger (and to some extent, Lighting cables), Apple works with factories to provide the basic parts here, which developers can then integrate into a charging station or mount. Technically, there’s not a huge difference between offering a slot for a MagSafe cable versus the integrated module; the advantage is largely in size and cost, allowing for accessories that are smaller, cheaper, and nicer to use than the awkward, kludged-together options we have today.

An image of Apple’s MagSafe module for device makers. Image: ChargerLab
But crucially, the company only announced that it would be offering the modules on June 22nd, almost nine months after the iPhone 12 launched. Hardware developers were only then able to apply to get their hands on samples and apply to get true MagSafe products approved (which will presumably take even more time), followed by actually manufacturing and shipping those accessories, which could take months by itself.

It’s a similar timetable that we’ve seen with other proprietary Apple chargers. Apple didn’t offer developers the option to build their own integrated Apple Watch products until July 2015, four months after the Watch hit the market, and it took almost a year after that until the first third-party products arrived with the proprietary charger built in. Those products have proven to be excellent options for consumers, offering functionality that Apple didn’t, like integration with other wireless charging pads, removable cables, or a built-in power bank. But because of how Apple’s system works, it took months for them to arrive.

Or take USB-C to Lightning cables, where Apple first started selling its own models in fall of 2016 — but only opened the gates to developers in December 2018, with the first cables showing up a few months later in early 2019.

Each time, that slow start has had direct consequences: a lack of diversity and competition in the products you can buy. Apple’s virtual monopoly on accessories in the first months or years means customers have fewer — and worse — options for their brand-new iPhones.

There’s still no MagSafe car mounts that will charge your iPhone 12 at full speed, even a year after launch — perhaps the most blindingly obvious use of MagSafe. The closest Apple-sanctioned accessory is a magnetic car mount that just holds up (but doesn’t charge) your phone. And if you want a MagSafe charger for your desk or nightstand that can prop your iPhone up, you’re limited to bulkier workarounds that require threading through an existing Apple-bought cable (or Belkin’s two options, which are usually even pricier). Apple spent the better part of the year without giving access to developers to build their own products, while also not working to build anything on its own to fill those niches, either.

Six months later, there still isn’t a MagSafe car charger
And while developers can try to keep up with Apple, like Anker’s MagSafe-compatible battery pack, they’re not playing on a level field without access to the MagSafe modules that Apple is rationing out.. Forget Apple’s software additions that make its MagSafe battery pack more useful than a third-party option: right now, Apple’s pack is the only one that can even charge an iPhone at full speed, and even then, only while it’s plugged in with specific adapters and capable cords. It’s the sort of area where competition could lead to better products.

Maybe a third-party can figure out a way to provide full-speed charging from a battery pack that Apple didn’t, or simply offer things at a lower price point or with a larger battery than Apple’s pack offers.

That, of course, assumes that Apple even lets competitors make officially approved MagSafe battery packs. The company’s MFi program means that developers have to get their hardware approved by Apple and be built using Apple-approved parts from Apple-approved factories. (Apple also gets a fee from each product, of course.) And if the company doesn’t like a design, it can simply withhold its seal of approval and the necessary parts.

Of course, proprietary Apple chargers are nothing new, and while today’s MagSafe licensing feels slow, it’s better than things used to be. The original iteration of MagSafe on laptops wasn’t licensed out to third party companies at all: if you wanted a spare charger or to charge your Mac from an external battery pack, you were pretty much out of luck.

The most famous example of this is accessory maker Sanho, which famously bought $79 MagSafe chargers, disassembled them, and used the original cable to allow Mac owners to charge their computers with its HyperMac batteries. Apple then sued Sanho, which was forced to come up with a workaround that instructed customers to buy their own chargers and modify the cables themselves.

But a year out, it’s hard to feel like MagSafe isn’t a missed opportunity for Apple. When the iPhone 12 first came out, MagSafe looked like a way for the company to build an ecosystem of snap-on modular accessories, the sort of thing that Motorola had tried and failed to accomplish with its Moto Mods system. There were visions of port-less iPhones that could rely on MagSafe exclusively for charging and connecting to external devices.

But instead of that thriving new accessory ecosystem, Apple has effectively left us with a handful of Apple-designed cables. It makes Apple’s magnetic standard look less like a stepping stone to the portless future, and more like another brick in Apple’s walled garden.

On Tuesday, 30 August 2022 at 23:42:36 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 22:38:47 +0100, Ken Hart <kwh...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>
> > On 8/29/22 10:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:16:18 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 23:46:40 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >>>> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >
> > snip lots
> >
> >>> How did you learn how to jump out of a plane they just took you up and
> >>> pushed you out did they.
> >>
> >> Not much to it really. Which angle to jump, which cord to pull, etc.
> >>
> >>> There was no jumping from small hieghts learning how to fall or
> >>> anything like that ?
> >>> Well if the queen managed it iat the 2012 olypics it can't be that
> >>> difficult can it.
> >>
> >> The Queen skydived?!
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AS-dCdYZbo
> >
> > About six minutes. I suspect there could have been a stunt double. At
> > least for the Corgi's
> Anyone else notice the James Bond actor looks like Putin?

or ryan giggs ;-)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-62557277

On Wednesday, 31 August 2022 at 04:44:41 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2022 13:40:00 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, 21 August 2022 at 22:01:20 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:16:18 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 23:46:40 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > On Saturday, 13 August 2022 at 00:18:59 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> >> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 14:08:34 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > I klnew a few couples like that not married but been together over 25+ years.
> >> >> >> >> > It's not like they don;t have arguments it;'s just that they seem to work things out.
> >> >> >> >> 1 in 3 marriages end in divorce.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Pretty useless stat. really has little meaning nowerdays.
> >> >> >> It means what it's always meant, maths hasn't changed that much. It means 1000 people get divorced and 2000 live happily. Not good numbers.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What about those that a separated, or just married but don't live together.
> >> >> That's hardly a successful marriage.
> >> >
> >> > Depends what you mean by successful marriage.
> >> > I have known of a few marriages for passports have taken place some are still married although they have no contact with each other.
> >> I'm talking about a partner you live with and fuck.
> >
> > That's not the defintion of marriage though.
> > So when looking at marriage stats it doesn;t mean what poee think it does.
> 99% of marriages are simply a man and wife living together in the normal way.

Not sure if that's true in todays world in the UK anyway.

There;s same sex marriages and if so called normal mairages have changed .
Not sure what you mean buy in the normal way far more married women go out to work than used to 50 years ago.
And far more people just live together in what uo might call the normal way. And when they split it doesn't get registatred as a divorce or an end to
people living together in the normal way.

> >> > Even the GF I had in the band was going to marry a guy named dave, I'd heard this romour and when I asked her about it she said yes
> >> > it's gay dave he agreed to marry me so I can get a english passport , I said that won;t work he;s scottich so youd have a scottish passport.
> >> > She was a bit confused at the point but I had to explain that is was a joke and that;s she;s have a EU passport.
> >> > After we split she found herself an Engish BF and a year later she married him , I was the photographer and the cocktail maker at her wedding.
> >> > She made the punch lots of loverly alcohol but insisted it was springled with a few grams of speed.
> >> >
> >> > They aren't together now she is back in finland and isna facebook friend, no idea what happened to him though.
> >> ROFL! You meet interesting people.
> >
> > Yeah a line of fun, wierd or problematic.
> >
> > Talking of which my ex french flatmate told me she is moving in with her boyfriend she says they have the same mentality.
> > Sounds like a disaster about to happen.
> There's a council estate near here which is fun to walk through. Some of the women are quite aggressive.

Yes I can imagine, there's always been the battle axe type but I also think women have become more aggressive over recent times.

> >> > They kept having to drain our pool as someone that hatted swimming kept throwing a brick though the window and glass would end up ion teh pool.
> >> > Happened quite a few times .
> >> Just send someone in with a dustpan and brush.
> >
> > Not sure those work underwater.
> Glass is heavier than water.

But brushing it up moves it around, and yuo could never be sire you'd get it all, it's not like it just falls in a nice neat pile below the window.

> >> When I were a lad near Dundee (rough place where they set fire to police cars) someone decided it would be funny to jam a razor blade in the join in one of the water slides.
> >
> > Strange the way those of lower IQ have a differnt sense of humour.
> I have a 135 IQ and I thought it was funny.

Who tested you ? I did an online test years ago aftter a few beers got about 133 a friend who got 140 but he only failed to get into MENSA by a few points.
Not sure I;d trust any figure unless it was an offically done test.

> >> >> >> >> >> One of my girlfriends was married with 4 kids. She kept thinking about leaving him for me, but living in a seperate house nearby as two people, 15 parrots, and 4 kids in one house would be a fucking mess.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Yeah 4 kids , an Irish GF said she wanted to have 5 daughters as she was one of 5 girls.
> >> >> >> >> > Closests I;ve ever come to a heart attack was when she cuddeld up to me saying I'd really like 5 children.. all girls...
> >> >> >> >> Like you can control if they're girls. Could have an abortion if they're the wrong one I guess.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I wouldn;t of cared what gender they were but 5 is far too many I was thuinking cloers to zero.
> >> >> >> I'd like one. Be better to give it your full attention.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I think 2 is a good number, 3 perhaps .
> >> >> You said closer to zero a minute ago.
> >> >
> >> > For me personally yes ZERO, but generally speaking for the good of the kids they need a sibling or two.
> >>
> >> Single kids I know are much happier. More attention more money sent on them, bigger inheritance. Most kids prefer friends not siblings.
> >
> > Not in the early years.
> Bullshit, when younger their parents are who they like.

Most kids seem to what a brother or a sister.

> >> >> >> > Little evidence of that it's why so many are obsese.
> >> >> >> That's the amount not the type.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > it's the amount of fat, sugar and salt in processed food, that is the problem.
> >> >> Bollocks. Calories are calories. People are fat or thin based on genetics. We need to stop the unhealthy blobs breeding.
> >> >
> >> > genetics is 30-70% of it, and it;s down top gut and other bacteria. Theres a process that's been discovered over the last few years that involves
> >> > fecal translpants that's taking shit cells from one peron and putting them in another
> >> > and this changes gut bactreria which can have a significant effect or cure obese people, it;s also possible to
> >> > help irradicate some cancer cells although it's still in the early testing.
> >> But that gut bacteria depends on your genes too presumably. If you see fat parents, chances are the kids are fat too.
> >
> > Yes you can inherit fatness just like you can inteligence or athleticism and many other things.

> Weirdly you can inherit fitness you've created. You can decide to do loads of exercise, then that gets passed onto your kids.

Yep even looks and interests to some extent. Kids can be interested in what their parents do and in the earlier years follow what they do.

> >> > check out the southpark episode Turd burglers ;-)
> >> I hate that program.
> >
> > Why ?
> Childish shite and simply drawn cartoons that belong in the 70s. What happened to CGI?

It's for people with little imagination.
> >> > Why are there more unhealthy blods and fat isn't just fat there is at least two types I know of brown and white fat.
> >> Brown fat is what stops you being a sissy in cold water.
> >
> > Where do you get that idea from ?
> Brown fat cells create heat directly.

That's why brown fat is consiideredd good but you cna only generate a certain amount of it, then it goes to white fat
which doen't get burnt up as easlity and this is when people but on weight and get fat.

> >> >> >> > >after all animals in the wild often don't get a choice.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > They do, animals can usually eat what is aviable if the right food suff doesn't exist then the species doesn't survive
> >> >> >> > It's what survival of the fitest really means it's not about who is the stonger indivudual.
> >> >> >> I doubt any animal knows which food is better for it. It eats what's available or tasty.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > They do they have senses and experience.
> >> >> > Some get it wrong, but generally in the wild they are OK.
> >> >> > They have eyes and a nose they can use.
> >> >> They know what's poisonous, but I doubt they have a grasp of vitamins.
> >> >
> >> > They don;t need to, this is why horses and even dogs eat their own shit as they know they contain something they need
> >> > that isn's passed to them in the first 'eating'.
> >> >
> >> > Dogs will eat other dogs shit if they smell that it contains high levels of the things they need.
> >> > Some dogs get fed healthy dieds and they stuill shit out so called good protiens.
> >> >
> >> > It happens with many animals .
> >> And us. I can smell what's good for me. We also get a desire for a certain food, I bet that's our brain requiring certain nutrients.
> >
> > True but we can also get it wrong.
> So can nutritionists. Look at the number of times they changed their minds which fats were best for you.

On Wednesday, 31 August 2022 at 07:53:35 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 07:39:41 +0100, David Brooks <Da...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> > On 30/08/2022 23:42, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 22:38:47 +0100, Ken Hart <kwh...@centurylink.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 8/29/22 10:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:16:18 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 23:46:40 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> snip lots
> >>>
> >>>>> How did you learn how to jump out of a plane they just took you up and
> >>>>> pushed you out did they.
> >>>>
> >>>> Not much to it really. Which angle to jump, which cord to pull, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>>> There was no jumping from small hieghts learning how to fall or
> >>>>> anything like that ?
> >>>>> Well if the queen managed it iat the 2012 olypics it can't be that
> >>>>> difficult can it.
> >>>>
> >>>> The Queen skydived?!
> >>>
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AS-dCdYZbo
> >>>
> >>> About six minutes. I suspect there could have been a stunt double. At
> >>> least for the Corgi's
> >>
> >> Anyone else notice the James Bond actor looks like Putin?
> >
> > His name is Daniel Craig
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Craig
> Yes, and there are many websites agreeing with me that he looks like Putin.
>
> Sometimes people look the same. I found on Instagram someone in London who is absolutely identical, has the same forename and surname, and is the same age, as a friend of mine who has never left Scotland.

A girl in a club I was in mistook me for arnold Schwarzenegger, all I said was "I'll be back" and she pointed to me and said "arnold Schwarzenegger" well I didn't argue ;-)

On Wednesday, 31 August 2022 at 22:51:35 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 22:36:17 +0100, David Brooks <Da...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> > On 31/08/2022 21:23, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 08:25:03 +0100, David Brooks <Da...@invalid.invalid>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 31/08/2022 07:53, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 07:39:41 +0100, David Brooks <Da...@invalid.invalid>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 30/08/2022 23:42, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >>>>>> On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 22:38:47 +0100, Ken Hart <kwh...@centurylink.net>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 8/29/22 10:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:16:18 +0100, Whisky-dave
> >>>>>>>> <whisk...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 23:46:40 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave
> >>>>>>>>>> <whisk...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> snip lots
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> How did you learn how to jump out of a plane they just took you up
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> pushed you out did they.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Not much to it really. Which angle to jump, which cord to pull,
> >>>>>>>> etc.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> There was no jumping from small hieghts learning how to fall or
> >>>>>>>>> anything like that ?
> >>>>>>>>> Well if the queen managed it iat the 2012 olypics it can't be that
> >>>>>>>>> difficult can it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The Queen skydived?!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AS-dCdYZbo
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> About six minutes. I suspect there could have been a stunt double. At
> >>>>>>> least for the Corgi's
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Anyone else notice the James Bond actor looks like Putin?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> His name is Daniel Craig
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Craig
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, and there are many websites agreeing with me that he looks like
> >>>> Putin.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sometimes people look the same. I found on Instagram someone in London
> >>>> who is absolutely identical, has the same forename and surname, and is
> >>>> the same age, as a friend of mine who has never left Scotland.
> >>>
> >>> You may pull the other one! ;-)
> >>
> >> I was telling the truth. I actually thought it was him and started
> >> talking to him, then realised it wasn't him.
> >
> > I was unaware that one can talk to folk on Instagram!
> >
> > Lesson, please?
> I hardly ever use it. I've used it to talk to him, and to "like" some companies to get free vouchers. When I say talk, I just sent a message.
> >>> I thought of you last evening when I filmed this short clip:-
> >>> https://jumpshare.com/v/xRyAP2kYnZW5s1gX0ExT
> >>
> >> I have never and will never play, listen to, or enjoy the pipes.
> >> Except this: https://youtu.be/cnVjkE87FDY
> >
> > Haha! :-D Great fun!

yes that was good.

> I went to university with a guy that unicycled there. First time I saw him I was locking my bike up, and he appeared on a unicycle. I said "what's wrong with two wheels?", he said "too easy".

This is what happened to a unicyclist near where I live.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/i-m-lucky-to-be-alive-says-unicyclist-who-was-freed-from-under-bus-in-walthamstow-10290615.html

On Thursday, 1 September 2022 at 00:59:21 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 23:49:26 +0100, David Brooks <Da...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> > On 31/08/2022 23:37, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> > [....]
> >> Anything is better than Apple anything. They even fucked up the jpeg
> >> standard of three decades and I keep getting sideways and upside down
> >> photos from Iphone users!
> >
> > Are you referring to HEIC ?
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Efficiency_Image_File_Format
> >
> > It's not JUST for Apple!
> Again and again Apple screw everything up. And the silly little Apple worshippers suck it in.
>
> https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/18/22629703/apple-magsafe-charging-mfi-standard-accessory
>
> Almost a year in, Apple’s charging tech has barely trickled out

It was out in 2006 for laptops .

>
> It’s been almost a year since Apple first debuted the iPhone 12 lineup, and introduced its MagSafe accessory system. So where are all the MagSafe chargers?
Guess they are expensive to do things that way and the p[oundshop people haven't quite managed to make one.

>
> Don’t get me wrong. There are plenty of accessory developers making cases, wallets, car mounts, desk stands, and even magnetic Qi chargers and battery packs that work with MagSafe — but almost no actual MagSafe accessories.

what sort of accessories would you want a car charger ?

>
> And that’s a big difference because of how Apple has designed the MagSafe standard. Anyone can wirelessly charge an iPhone 12 device using a Qi charger at Apple’s standard rate of 7.5W. Magnets, being a physical phenomenon, are even more universal, meaning that device manufacturers can easily stick an iPhone 12 and a Qi charger together. (Many already have.)
>
> The MagSafe Battery Pack looks a little funny on an iPhone 12 Pro Max
> But those two things alone don’t make a wireless charger a MagSafe charger; actual, Apple-approved MagSafe chargers offer a charging speed that’s twice as fast, up to 15W. And that’s only available on a paltry handful of accessories: Apple’s official charging cable, Apple’s MagSafe Duo charger, Apple’s official MagSafe battery pack (even then, only when it’s plugged in), and a pair of pricey Belkin stands.
>
> Theoretically, there’s no reason that Apple has to restrict 15W charging to official MagSafe chargers. Any number of Qi chargers are available that offer 15W charging speeds and work with a plethora of devices. Some of them are even made by Apple’s MagSafe-approved partners, leading to awkward product lineups where some MagSafe-capable 15W chargers sit side by side on a website with identical-looking 7.5W, MagSafe-compatible wireless chargers that won’t charge your phone as fast.
>
> This Belkin charger has MagSafe, costs $99, and charges an iPhone 12 at 15W. Image: Belkin
> This Belkin charger has magnets, costs $35, and charges an iPhone 12 at 7..5W. Image: Belkin
> The reason appears to be simple: Apple hasn’t actually let anyone else make MagSafe chargers yet. According to ChargerLab — a wireless-charging-focused site that’s obtained details and a unit for Apple’s MagSafe modules — Apple is only allowing MagSafe chargers to be built using an MFi-approved module.

So.

>
> But a year out, it’s hard to feel like MagSafe isn’t a missed opportunity for Apple. When the iPhone 12 first came out, MagSafe looked like a way for the company to build an ecosystem of snap-on modular accessories, the sort of thing that Motorola had tried and failed to accomplish with its Moto Mods system. There were visions of port-less iPhones that could rely on MagSafe exclusively for charging and connecting to external devices.

They could have done a MS and tried to write an OS for a phone and fail.

>
> But instead of that thriving new accessory ecosystem, Apple has effectively left us with a handful of Apple-designed cables. It makes Apple’s magnetic standard look less like a stepping stone to the portless future, and more like another brick in Apple’s walled garden.

What are these great accessories. ?

On Fri, 02 Sep 2022 13:02:18 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, 30 August 2022 at 23:42:36 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 22:38:47 +0100, Ken Hart <kwh...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>>
>> > On 8/29/22 10:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:16:18 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 23:46:40 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >>>> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >
>> > snip lots
>> >
>> >>> How did you learn how to jump out of a plane they just took you up and
>> >>> pushed you out did they.
>> >>
>> >> Not much to it really. Which angle to jump, which cord to pull, etc.
>> >>
>> >>> There was no jumping from small hieghts learning how to fall or
>> >>> anything like that ?
>> >>> Well if the queen managed it iat the 2012 olypics it can't be that
>> >>> difficult can it.
>> >>
>> >> The Queen skydived?!
>> >
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AS-dCdYZbo
>> >
>> > About six minutes. I suspect there could have been a stunt double. At
>> > least for the Corgi's
>> Anyone else notice the James Bond actor looks like Putin?
>or ryan giggs ;-)

Giggs is nothing like them.

> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-62557277

Doesn't look much like the Queen. Couldn't they have found a female skydiver?

On Thu, 25 Aug 2022 14:49:20 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 24 August 2022 at 06:25:15 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Aug 2022 01:16:56 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Wednesday, 17 August 2022 at 02:18:58 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 13:36:52 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> > I don;t remmeber focussing being an issue but co-ordination & balance could a bit off.
>> >> My balance is good, first time I ever got drunk as a teenager, my friend fell over when trying to punch me. I just sidestepped and watched him land flat on his face. We had both drunk the same and he was bigger than me.
>> >
>> > I think its quite common to loose balance seen plenty of videos of people falling over.
>> > It's where the term legless comes from I guess.
>> I don't. I can also persuade anyone (including the police) I've had nothing to drink when I'm several times over the legal limit.
>
> means nothing, if you're over the limit you are over the limit it's a mathematical fact, persaution as nothing to do with it.

Bullshit. If they don't suspect I'm drunk, they don't do a breath test. One time I was actually very drunk and stoned at the same time, and almost tripped over the kerb while walking to their van. All I got done for was not wearing a seatbelt.

>> > A greek student that was quite large and tubby, when we took for a drink he started it get pissed after 1/2 pint.
>> > After a pint he had to sit down.
>> Weak brain. The friends I had more susceptible to alcohol were the thick ones.
>
> He was one of the cleverest students we've had a built a digitizer for displaying pictures on a BBC computer, he used to show it off at
> computer exibitions as it ran and updated the screen with images from the star wars films , it copied everything from an ROM installed in the computer.
>
> I very much doubt intoxication has any link to inteligence other than the less inteligent tend to believe it.

Maybe there are exceptions, but I find the dopey folk always get drunk more. If you have a weak brain, it's obviously more susceptible to things.

>> > A friend of mine tried vodka and he started to get violent and argumentative it's the only think he reacts badly too, he can drink
>> > 6 pints of beer without a problem.
>> Illogical, it's all ethanol.
>
> He can drink whisky and just about any other spirit without becoming angry .

He must be allergic to something else in the drink then, and it's nothing to do with it being alcoholic. If you could produce vodka minus the ethanol, it would be interesting to see if that affected him.

>> > Another Irish friend whos normally really quiet and shy talks endlessly and loudly after a few pints
>> > it can get really annoying he starts hugging friends and saying I love you and gets emotional.
>> But the Irish are always like that.
>
> That could be true

There was a homeless Scotsman in Dundee when I was a teenager and used the bus to get to uni. He approached me and a few others at the bus stop and started hugging me and declaring his undying love. My friends thought it was hilarious. A stupid woman asked if I wanted her to call the police and I objected strongly, saying he's harmless. I gave the same guy a quid every time I saw him, and once two men approached me just afterwards and said I shouldn't encourage him. I told them to go fuck themselves.

On Thu, 25 Aug 2022 14:49:20 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 24 August 2022 at 06:25:15 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Aug 2022 01:16:56 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Wednesday, 17 August 2022 at 02:18:58 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 13:36:52 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> > Certain types of women became more attractive as I drank more which can be a problem.
>> >> Odd, that didn't change for me.
>> >> >> The RDA is good for you. Double the RDA is even better for you. Triple the RDA is the same for you as the RDA. Quadruple the RDA is the same as being T-Total. Only after that you go downhill.
>> >> >
>> >> > Not sure how true that is as many people are efectivley T-total of just don;t drink due to culture. They seem to cope with life without drink alcohol.
>> >> > Don;t forget it's an allowence and not something you must have.
>> >> It's supposed to reduce the risk of heart problems if you have it in moderation.
>> >
>> > Lots of things seem to be good for you in moderation coffee, dark chocolate.
>> I hate coffee but love chocolate.
>
> I know someone that loves coffee but hates coffee flavoured things like ice cream, quality street and the like type sweets.
> He threw up once after eating a coffee sweet from a box of roses or similar. It was quite funny.

I can throw up on command.

>> >> >> >> > Yes people are already there at that point.
>> >> >> >> And the same applies to time travel. If I'm about to go 5 years into the future, that future does already exist, it's just 5 years away in that dimension, and nobody you know from this time can see it yet unless they travel in time.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Something like spacetime , if yuo travel forward in time you also have to travel in distance too.
>> >> >> Why? If you travel north you don't have to go a bit east too.
>> >> >
>> >> > But you do as the earth is rotating and the earth is orbiting the sun and orbiting our galaxy and the universe is expanding.
>> >> > So if I go back to find van goth the earth was in a differnt part of the galaxy to what it is now.
>> >> > The only real way to achive that is to bend space and therefor bent time is using gravity .
>> >> Depends what the physical point of reference is when time travelling. Do you end up in the same place relative to a local mass like the earth, or relative to the centre of the universe?
>> >
>> > Not sure but the earth moves even rotation so if you go forward 6 months , I think you must also move too as the Earth is on the opposite. side of the sun.
>> I honestly never thought about this problem before you mentioned it. You had better inform some important physicists.
>
> I think they know about it, it also part of the light where a star can be 32 billion light years away but the universe's is only 13.8 billion l years old .
> I was reading about it as the james webb telescope first pictures came it.
> Can't say I truely understood the paper but sort of got the point that it wasn;t as sinple as I first thought and with gravatational lensing
> and redshift which isn;t that difficult to understand.

Link please, that sounds interesting. I'm running a lot of telescope data through my computers and have got rather interested in it.

>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Why travel back all the way to now when the lottery winnings are smaller?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Invest it, I;d go back and offer say van goth a few shilling for his sunflower or other stuff that no one wanted to buy.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I don;t think he sold any pictures of his own during his life.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Good point, invest it in the past then go forwards and collect the interest. In fact all you need to do is take some money you have now, go back as far as you can when those coins/notes are still valid, pay it into a bank account, then go forwards and take it out with interest.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Yeah I've got a few components in the lab maybe I'll build a time machine ;-)
>> >> >> >> >> >> I found some 64kbit RAM chips, want them? 16 pin DIL.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Think I already have asome of those thanks.
>> >> >> >> >> I can't think of what to do with them, I think they'll get recycled. No idea if they recycle individual chips. Melt them down into basic elements?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Some have gold on the pins I know there's not much but it seems worth doing for old chips and connectors.
>> >> >> >> They're in my "blue box" for the council. They stopped collecting it, but next time I take hedge clippings to the skip I'll ask. Also got busted hard disks, computer fans, USB sticks, etc.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > we have an electrical waste bin at work for such things.
>> >> >> > I have hard drives, one day I'll remove the circuit boards add some surface mount LEDs and a small battery and flashing circuit
>> >> >> > and frame it as art. Not sure I'll win a turner prize but one day I'll get around to it.
>> >> >> A hard disk is very good for concealing marijuana. They're hermetically sealed so a dog won't smell it, and nobody at an airport would open one.
>> >> >
>> >> > But they could ask you to start it up,
>> >> It could just be a plain 3.5" disk with no way to talk to it.
>> >> and x-rays can see oddities in such a think.
>> >> They can't get through steel.
>> >
>> > There must be some way or it'd be done on a large scale.
>> It most likely is. Black market dealers are a lot brighter than the law. I know a local drug dealer who outsmarted the police in court. She got let off with "not proven". She makes a living selling "street Valium".
>
> I've been on jury service you can;t really out smart the police it's more that they don;t have enough evidence for a jury to convict on.

They have not enough evidence because they're thick or lazy. Someone once smashed my car window and they couldn't even be bothered taking fingerprints. They said if I didn't know who it was, they couldn't do anything. A friend got every single window of her car smashed, but she figured out herself it was probably her daughter's ex boyfriend. Nice new top of the range Honda Civic aswell, must have cost a few grand to fix. Not sure who ended up paying.

> That's why she got off with not proven, which is differnt from not giulty.

Either way she doesn't get a punishment.

> The dealers ttry to stay one spep ahead but it;s more to do with the number of attempts on getting drugs through.
> Not everything is checked at shipping ports and lots more drugs get through than is found.
> You just have to make sure nothing leads back to you as a dealer.

It's fucking stupid they go after drugs at all. It's nobody's business what people put in their bodies.

>> >> > Who carries HDs norwerdays anyway most have SSDs .
>> >> Depends on the capacity.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> But the girl looks way sexier with rock hard nipples.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I quite like them dressed in PVC or latex , not so keen on leather.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't like plastic, it's too artificial. Skimpy denim is better.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/photos/ariel-winter/heading-to-a-salon-in-west-hollywood/Ariel-Winter-in-Skimpy-Denim-Shorts--18.jpg
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I don;t like blue denim black is OK.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Why?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Not sure maybe it;s the sort that waer blue denim .
>> >> >> >> >> >> I like girls in denim that's falling apart.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > I'ts like a really don't like denim that was featured by dexis midnight runners , don't like track suits either.
>> >> >> >> >> >> The cheap shit plastic ones (shell suits?) are usually worn by people more likely to want a shag.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > The ali-G type , I just find people in those funny.
>> >> >> >> >> Or hot.
>> >> >> >> >> https://www.hotmilkvintage.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/39.jpg
>> >> >> >> >> You'd give her one wouldn't you? And you can probably rip that shellsuit right off if you're in a hurry.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Not sure I'd bother.
>> >> >> >> You're not right in the head. I can see her being a right horny thing in bed and doing it all night.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I just don;t find that look sexy.
>> >> >> What she's wearing isn't really relevant anyway, it's what she looks like underneath.
>> >> >
>> >> > Could be pregnant ?. If she has a nice figure why hide it in plastic bag.
>> >> It's not plastic. Plastic is the crap you showed me them wearing in the club.
>> > Mostly PVC and things like it .
>> Yip, that's for plastic bags, not people.
>
> Most shell suits are some shitty type of plastic .

On Sunday, 4 September 2022 at 05:02:22 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2022 14:49:20 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, 24 August 2022 at 06:25:15 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Sun, 21 Aug 2022 01:16:56 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Wednesday, 17 August 2022 at 02:18:58 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 13:36:52 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> > I don;t remmeber focussing being an issue but co-ordination & balance could a bit off.
> >> >> My balance is good, first time I ever got drunk as a teenager, my friend fell over when trying to punch me. I just sidestepped and watched him land flat on his face. We had both drunk the same and he was bigger than me.
> >> >
> >> > I think its quite common to loose balance seen plenty of videos of people falling over.
> >> > It's where the term legless comes from I guess.
> >> I don't. I can also persuade anyone (including the police) I've had nothing to drink when I'm several times over the legal limit.
> >
> > means nothing, if you're over the limit you are over the limit it's a mathematical fact, persaution as nothing to do with it.
> Bullshit. If they don't suspect I'm drunk, they don't do a breath test. One time I was actually very drunk and stoned at the same time, and almost tripped over the kerb while walking to their van. All I got done for was not wearing a seatbelt.

if your are over the limit then you are over the limit that is the mathamatical fact.
The only way to persuade them that you are not over is if you tell them the readout is wrong and explain why.

> >> > A greek student that was quite large and tubby, when we took for a drink he started it get pissed after 1/2 pint.
> >> > After a pint he had to sit down.
> >> Weak brain. The friends I had more susceptible to alcohol were the thick ones.
> >
> > He was one of the cleverest students we've had a built a digitizer for displaying pictures on a BBC computer, he used to show it off at
> > computer exibitions as it ran and updated the screen with images from the star wars films , it copied everything from an ROM installed in the computer.
> >
> > I very much doubt intoxication has any link to inteligence other than the less inteligent tend to believe it.
> Maybe there are exceptions, but I find the dopey folk always get drunk more.

Cause and effect.

> If you have a weak brain, it's obviously more susceptible to things.

There's no such thing as a weak brain.

Maybe the dumber you are the more you drink and then you are seen more times drunk.

> >> > A friend of mine tried vodka and he started to get violent and argumentative it's the only think he reacts badly too, he can drink
> >> > 6 pints of beer without a problem.
> >> Illogical, it's all ethanol.
> >
> > He can drink whisky and just about any other spirit without becoming angry .
> He must be allergic to something else in the drink then, and it's nothing to do with it being alcoholic.

I never said it;s anything to do with it being alcoholic.

>If you could produce vodka minus the ethanol, it would be interesting to see if that affected him.

I'm guessing it's something else other than ethanol.

> >> > Another Irish friend whos normally really quiet and shy talks endlessly and loudly after a few pints
> >> > it can get really annoying he starts hugging friends and saying I love you and gets emotional.
> >> But the Irish are always like that.
> >
> > That could be true
> There was a homeless Scotsman in Dundee when I was a teenager and used the bus to get to uni. He approached me and a few others at the bus stop and started hugging me and declaring his undying love. My friends thought it was hilarious. A stupid woman asked if I wanted her to call the police and I objected strongly, saying he's harmless. I gave the same guy a quid every time I saw him, and once two men approached me just afterwards and said I shouldn't encourage him. I told them to go fuck themselves.

If I were giving him money I'd prefer to know what he was going to use it for.

On Sunday, 4 September 2022 at 08:03:33 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2022 14:49:20 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, 24 August 2022 at 06:25:15 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Sun, 21 Aug 2022 01:16:56 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Wednesday, 17 August 2022 at 02:18:58 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 13:36:52 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> > Certain types of women became more attractive as I drank more which can be a problem.
> >> >> Odd, that didn't change for me.
> >> >> >> The RDA is good for you. Double the RDA is even better for you. Triple the RDA is the same for you as the RDA. Quadruple the RDA is the same as being T-Total. Only after that you go downhill.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Not sure how true that is as many people are efectivley T-total of just don;t drink due to culture. They seem to cope with life without drink alcohol.
> >> >> > Don;t forget it's an allowence and not something you must have.
> >> >> It's supposed to reduce the risk of heart problems if you have it in moderation.
> >> >
> >> > Lots of things seem to be good for you in moderation coffee, dark chocolate.
> >> I hate coffee but love chocolate.
> >
> > I know someone that loves coffee but hates coffee flavoured things like ice cream, quality street and the like type sweets.
> > He threw up once after eating a coffee sweet from a box of roses or similar. It was quite funny.
> I can throw up on command.

I guess that could have some use...

> >> >> >> >> > Yes people are already there at that point.
> >> >> >> >> And the same applies to time travel. If I'm about to go 5 years into the future, that future does already exist, it's just 5 years away in that dimension, and nobody you know from this time can see it yet unless they travel in time.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Something like spacetime , if yuo travel forward in time you also have to travel in distance too.
> >> >> >> Why? If you travel north you don't have to go a bit east too.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > But you do as the earth is rotating and the earth is orbiting the sun and orbiting our galaxy and the universe is expanding.
> >> >> > So if I go back to find van goth the earth was in a differnt part of the galaxy to what it is now.
> >> >> > The only real way to achive that is to bend space and therefor bent time is using gravity .
> >> >> Depends what the physical point of reference is when time travelling. Do you end up in the same place relative to a local mass like the earth, or relative to the centre of the universe?
> >> >
> >> > Not sure but the earth moves even rotation so if you go forward 6 months , I think you must also move too as the Earth is on the opposite. side of the sun.
> >> I honestly never thought about this problem before you mentioned it. You had better inform some important physicists.
> >
> > I think they know about it, it also part of the light where a star can be 32 billion light years away but the universe's is only 13.8 billion l years old .
> > I was reading about it as the james webb telescope first pictures came it.
> > Can't say I truely understood the paper but sort of got the point that it wasn;t as sinple as I first thought and with gravatational lensing
> > and redshift which isn;t that difficult to understand.
> Link please, that sounds interesting. I'm running a lot of telescope data through my computers and have got rather interested in it.

Can;'t find the link it was a while ago but I made a note of the star.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GN-z11

> >> >> > But they could ask you to start it up,
> >> >> It could just be a plain 3.5" disk with no way to talk to it.
> >> >> and x-rays can see oddities in such a think.
> >> >> They can't get through steel.
> >> >
> >> > There must be some way or it'd be done on a large scale.
> >> It most likely is. Black market dealers are a lot brighter than the law. I know a local drug dealer who outsmarted the police in court. She got let off with "not proven". She makes a living selling "street Valium".
> >
> > I've been on jury service you can;t really out smart the police it's more that they don;t have enough evidence for a jury to convict on.
> They have not enough evidence because they're thick or lazy. Someone once smashed my car window and they couldn't even be bothered taking fingerprints. They said if I didn't know who it was, they couldn't do anything. A friend got every single window of her car smashed, but she figured out herself it was probably her daughter's ex boyfriend. Nice new top of the range Honda Civic aswell, must have cost a few grand to fix. Not sure who ended up paying.
It's not uncommon to get someone esle to to the job for you for a small fee.. :-)

> > That's why she got off with not proven, which is differnt from not giulty.
> Either way she doesn't get a punishment.

Doesnt; mean she outsmarted the police though.
Only way to do that would be for teh crime not to be reported or know of.
Typically the perfect murder, no body, no evidence so no one can be found guilty
> > The dealers ttry to stay one spep ahead but it;s more to do with the number of attempts on getting drugs through.
> > Not everything is checked at shipping ports and lots more drugs get through than is found.
> > You just have to make sure nothing leads back to you as a dealer.
> It's fucking stupid they go after drugs at all. It's nobody's business what people put in their bodies.

Depends on what those bodies do to others when on drugs, or what people do in order to sell the drugs.

> >> > Mostly PVC and things like it .
> >> Yip, that's for plastic bags, not people.
> >
> > Most shell suits are some shitty type of plastic .
> Yeah my sister's caught fire once, that was funny, well I thought it was anyway.

I'd probbely laugh too provided no one got too badly hurt.
Must have been one of those cheap chinese knock-off that have fake fire resistant labels.

> >> > Side effect of losing body hair , having evolved from apes.
> >> The hair isn't needed,
> >
> > Hair is needed or we wouldn't have it.
> Bullshit. Evolution works by randomness.

For a common goal it''s not truely random.
Most humans have two eyes or at least have places for two eyes same as most mammals even birds.
If it were random some would have more others less.

> > Which countries are those where people walked around naked, there aren't any there's a reason for that.
> A lot of Africa.

Pretty low IQ generally, yet yuo'd think if that's where man first originated the IQ would be higher not lower.
> > Most animals are naked but maybe that's because genrally they have an IQl ess than that of a 3 year-old child.
> No, it's because they aren't as prudish as us. Mind you I do hate seeing cats when their tails go straight up (which they do when happy) exposing their dirty anus.

Most cats don;t have dirty anuses.

> > neither are clothes. People are obsessed with being warm. They get all upset if they shiver, but for some reason are ok pouring with sweat (which is far worse as you can quickly dehydrate).
> >> >> >> I've done running races in summer where stupid folk (everyone else in the race) had a tshirt on. I didn't. They were pouring with sweat and I was comfortable, and overtook loads of them. Several said, "that's a good idea" - they hadn't thought of it!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Strange professonal athletes don't do it, or wear the bare minium why is that.
> >> >> > From 100M to the marathon if whjat you say is correct they would be wearing as little as possible.
> >> >> Most athletes do wear not very much, but there are silly rules. For example I watched a triathlon in SUMMER and they had full wetsuits on, very inconvenient when they had to strip them off to cycle. The swim was like 10 minutes in summer temperature water.
> >> >
> >> > Swimmers have their body hair, some even remove beards and mustaches, don;t see many hairy swimmers in the Olympics.
> >> > Other than perhaps shot-put and hammer.
> >> Indeed, hair is a nuisance. Cyclists aswell, as it gets into wounds when they fall off.
> >
> > Bicycles aren't natural though they don;t grow on trees, same with motorbikes so people wear protective gear for when they fall off.
> A bicycle is not dangerous enough to need protection.

On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 13:26:03 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, 30 August 2022 at 03:02:33 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:16:18 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 23:46:40 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > On Saturday, 13 August 2022 at 00:18:59 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 14:08:34 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Ah those were the days,
>> >> >> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LIpFTM8q3s
>> >> >> >> They should bring back the belt.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Yeah I bought it one of my whips to enforce socail distancing ;-)
>> >> >> One of your whips? How many do you got?
>> >> >
>> >> > Just two, they were bought for me a sort of joke thing.Never really used them on anyone.
>> >> "Never really"? So sort of?
>> >
>> > Well tried cracking it a few times I'm not that good at it and it was only done na few times.
>> > Such as in Oi where's my breakfast luv .
>> I have a whip app on my phone. It makes a noise when i shake the phone hard.
>
> I prefer the real thing rather than this simulation stuff ;-)

Master or slave?

>> >> >> >> >> > Some people can't control their emotions or acts.
>> >> >> >> >> What's your opinion on nudist camps then?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Don't really have one I went not my sort of thing I guess.
>> >> >> >> Clothes are irrational.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I use mine for keeping my keys 2 bunches, 4-6 cards, a bit of money and that's just to get to work.
>> >> >> My housekey is attached to my wrist strap, a little RFID tag. For money you only need 1 card, or even just your phone.
>> >> >
>> >> > were would o keep your phone ?
>> >> You can get arm pouches for phones. I have one, but I've only ever used it to carry a chocolate bar in a marathon - my secret weapon!
>> >
>> > Why do marathon runners wear so many clothes
>> Because they're idiots. I run in shorts and bare feet.
>
> Animals run with bare feet , some have evolved into hooves , while others have differing toes and some have fingers others have paws.
> But as yet we haven't eveloved foot that run well on concrete or tarmac, some have webbing between their toes I assume you don;t.
> . Of course there are even more modern things such as glass , metal even plastic (lego bricks) that are very painful if trodden on.
> We even put shoes on horses .

Bullshit. I and many other people can walk over broken glass without getting cut, and have no problem at all with running on tarmac for miles. Your feet very quickly thicken the skin. As does any part of you, people who write a lot get thick skin on one side of one of their fingers where the pen rubs it.

>> > and don;t chocaolate bars melt in the heat.
>> They melt at about 27C. It's usually not that hot unless they're in direct sunlight.
>
> Go up to around 38C in london a couple of weeks ago.
> I thought you'd be running in direct sunlight .

The pouch is black so the sunlight doesn't get through. And quite often the sun is on the other side of me, so my body shields the chocolate. Most races aren't in a straight line.

>> > I klnow the runners and cyclists have gel packs for energy often wondered how they legistale such things.
>> Legistale?
>
> Legistate, or how they decide what is fair and what isn't such as amphetamine sulphate or even marijuana

The easiest thing would be to let anyone take what they like, after all it's their own bodies they're harming.

>> >> >> > Don;t think I could cope this weather being naked pretty hot in london and the heat reflecting off the concrete .
>> >> >> > Then there's the risk of sunburn.
>> >> >> WTF? At 41C with clothes on you'd be soaked with sweat. Naked means it can evaporate. And your skin adjusts to UV levels, it's called a tan.
>> >> >
>> >> > It's called being burnt, skin cancer.
>> >> A myth.
>> >
>> > A reality.
>> No, the tan lowers the amount that gets through.
>
> Only after it's burnt

No, you only get burnt if you suddenly increase the sun amount before your skin is used to it.

> and if doesn't really affect the amount of UV especaily UV B

It most certainly does, that's the whole purpose of a tan.

>> >> >> > When at work I need pockets for tools and all sorts of things.
>> >> >> > Can't imagine many jobs wwere clothes of some sort are an advantage.
>> >> >> So wear a tool belt and nothing else. I guarantee you'll get laid or fired within the hour.
>> >> >> >> >> to one in France and there were 3000 people, of all ages from toddlers to OAPs, all completely starkers. And guess what, I never saw a single erection.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Why would you, a female friend asked me why do men find it sexier to see her in a very short skirt, and wearing a bikini bottom as knickers,
>> >> >> >> > than when she's on a beach wearing the same bikini bottom.
>> >> >> >> > I said it's probbaly down to what you almost see and imagination .
>> >> >> >> No, I get a stiffy as soon as a woman gets naked. But that's when we're about to fuck. Being naked on a beach isn't sexual, it's natural.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > That's why I don't se nudist camps as sexual, they just don;t interest me.
>> >> >> So you only like sexual things? A nudist beach is just a relaxing place to go.
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't find beaches relaxing they bore me.
>> >> You do something fun to get tired, then relax. Go windsurfing or swimming or running or something.
>> >
>> > I find that sort of shit boring.
>> Then pick one that requires some constant input, like trying not to fall off the windsurf.
>
> Doesn;t seem to be a naturla thing to do if I needed to do things on water I'd be like jesus or
> I'd have webbede feet.

It's fun though.

>> >> >> >> > Years ago people got excited about seeing ankels and then knees
>> >> >> >> It's pathetic. Sex is natural and we should all be fucking anyone we see.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Pissing and shitting is natural and needs doing more often , but I wouldn;t want to see someone taking a dump next to me
>> >> >> > while I was eating or having sex.
>> >> >> Do you get upset if you see someone stopped by the side of the road taking a leak?
>> >> >
>> >> > No I've seen it but it;s not the sort of thing I find attractive.
>> >> It's just a natural thing that has to be done.
>> >
>> > So are lots of things.
>> Which we shouldn't be ashamed of.
>
> Who's ashamed, are you ashamed to take a dump outside the local pub ?

That causes a stench.

>> >> >> >> > Same with any sport I'm probbaly more interested in sport now than I was as a kid,
>> >> >> >> > but just watching it though.
>> >> >> >> I'm the opposite, watching is boring, participating is the fun. You don't sit and watch people playing computer games, you don't sit and watch them play monopoly. You do it yourself.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Plenty of people watch sport including darts and snooker.
>> >> >> > Something like 9 million watched the lioness win that football trophy.
>> >> >> They're morons. Entertainment for the masses.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Not everyone plays football.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So what? Play something that interests you then.
>> >> > Not really interesting in playing sport.
>> >> I don't like stuff like football, but a running race is fun.
>> >
>> > for me it's about a much fun as scoring a goal.
>> Every time you overtake someone it's fun. And it's nice to see spectators cheering at your bare chest. I got hosed down on a hot day when running a marathon, a woman had produced a hosepipe and was cooling off anyone who wanted it.
>
> I guess so btu I wouldn't want to spend much of my time doing it.

On Fri, 02 Sep 2022 13:28:12 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 31 August 2022 at 04:44:41 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Aug 2022 13:40:00 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Sunday, 21 August 2022 at 22:01:20 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:16:18 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 23:46:40 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > On Saturday, 13 August 2022 at 00:18:59 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 14:08:34 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > I klnew a few couples like that not married but been together over 25+ years.
>> >> >> >> >> > It's not like they don;t have arguments it;'s just that they seem to work things out.
>> >> >> >> >> 1 in 3 marriages end in divorce.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Pretty useless stat. really has little meaning nowerdays.
>> >> >> >> It means what it's always meant, maths hasn't changed that much. It means 1000 people get divorced and 2000 live happily. Not good numbers.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > What about those that a separated, or just married but don't live together.
>> >> >> That's hardly a successful marriage.
>> >> >
>> >> > Depends what you mean by successful marriage.
>> >> > I have known of a few marriages for passports have taken place some are still married although they have no contact with each other.
>> >> I'm talking about a partner you live with and fuck.
>> >
>> > That's not the defintion of marriage though.
>> > So when looking at marriage stats it doesn;t mean what poee think it does.
>> 99% of marriages are simply a man and wife living together in the normal way.
>
> Not sure if that's true in todays world in the UK anyway.
>
> There;s same sex marriages

Only 5% of people are homosexual.

> and if so called normal mairages have changed .
> Not sure what you mean buy in the normal way far more married women go out to work than used to 50 years ago.

I mean a man and a woman living together in love with each other, no stuff for green cards etc.

> And far more people just live together in what uo might call the normal way. And when they split it doesn't get registatred as a divorce or an end to
> people living together in the normal way.

Irrelevant. i'm counting those who got married then change their mind.

>> >> > Even the GF I had in the band was going to marry a guy named dave, I'd heard this romour and when I asked her about it she said yes
>> >> > it's gay dave he agreed to marry me so I can get a english passport , I said that won;t work he;s scottich so youd have a scottish passport.
>> >> > She was a bit confused at the point but I had to explain that is was a joke and that;s she;s have a EU passport.
>> >> > After we split she found herself an Engish BF and a year later she married him , I was the photographer and the cocktail maker at her wedding.
>> >> > She made the punch lots of loverly alcohol but insisted it was springled with a few grams of speed.
>> >> >
>> >> > They aren't together now she is back in finland and isna facebook friend, no idea what happened to him though.
>> >> ROFL! You meet interesting people.
>> >
>> > Yeah a line of fun, wierd or problematic.
>> >
>> > Talking of which my ex french flatmate told me she is moving in with her boyfriend she says they have the same mentality.
>> > Sounds like a disaster about to happen.
>> There's a council estate near here which is fun to walk through. Some of the women are quite aggressive.
>
> Yes I can imagine, there's always been the battle axe type but I also think women have become more aggressive over recent times.

I think gradually men and women are becoming closer together.

>> >> > They kept having to drain our pool as someone that hatted swimming kept throwing a brick though the window and glass would end up ion teh pool.
>> >> > Happened quite a few times .
>> >> Just send someone in with a dustpan and brush.
>> >
>> > Not sure those work underwater.
>> Glass is heavier than water.
>
> But brushing it up moves it around, and yuo could never be sire you'd get it all, it's not like it just falls in a nice neat pile below the window.

Depends on the type of glass.

>> >> When I were a lad near Dundee (rough place where they set fire to police cars) someone decided it would be funny to jam a razor blade in the join in one of the water slides.
>> >
>> > Strange the way those of lower IQ have a differnt sense of humour.
>> I have a 135 IQ and I thought it was funny.
>
> Who tested you ? I did an online test years ago aftter a few beers got about 133 a friend who got 140 but he only failed to get into MENSA by a few points.
> Not sure I;d trust any figure unless it was an offically done test.

i did several online tests and they all agreed within a couple of points.

>> >> >> >> >> >> One of my girlfriends was married with 4 kids. She kept thinking about leaving him for me, but living in a seperate house nearby as two people, 15 parrots, and 4 kids in one house would be a fucking mess.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Yeah 4 kids , an Irish GF said she wanted to have 5 daughters as she was one of 5 girls.
>> >> >> >> >> > Closests I;ve ever come to a heart attack was when she cuddeld up to me saying I'd really like 5 children.. all girls...
>> >> >> >> >> Like you can control if they're girls. Could have an abortion if they're the wrong one I guess.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I wouldn;t of cared what gender they were but 5 is far too many I was thuinking cloers to zero.
>> >> >> >> I'd like one. Be better to give it your full attention.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I think 2 is a good number, 3 perhaps .
>> >> >> You said closer to zero a minute ago.
>> >> >
>> >> > For me personally yes ZERO, but generally speaking for the good of the kids they need a sibling or two.
>> >>
>> >> Single kids I know are much happier. More attention more money sent on them, bigger inheritance. Most kids prefer friends not siblings.
>> >
>> > Not in the early years.
>> Bullshit, when younger their parents are who they like.
>
> Most kids seem to what a brother or a sister.

I didn't want mine.

>> >> >> >> > Little evidence of that it's why so many are obsese.
>> >> >> >> That's the amount not the type.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > it's the amount of fat, sugar and salt in processed food, that is the problem.
>> >> >> Bollocks. Calories are calories. People are fat or thin based on genetics. We need to stop the unhealthy blobs breeding.
>> >> >
>> >> > genetics is 30-70% of it, and it;s down top gut and other bacteria. Theres a process that's been discovered over the last few years that involves
>> >> > fecal translpants that's taking shit cells from one peron and putting them in another
>> >> > and this changes gut bactreria which can have a significant effect or cure obese people, it;s also possible to
>> >> > help irradicate some cancer cells although it's still in the early testing.
>> >> But that gut bacteria depends on your genes too presumably. If you see fat parents, chances are the kids are fat too.
>> >
>> > Yes you can inherit fatness just like you can inteligence or athleticism and many other things.
>
>> Weirdly you can inherit fitness you've created. You can decide to do loads of exercise, then that gets passed onto your kids.
>
> Yep even looks and interests to some extent. Kids can be interested in what their parents do and in the earlier years follow what they do.

Or go the other way and rebel. Like not be believing in god.

>> >> > check out the southpark episode Turd burglers ;-)
>> >> I hate that program.
>> >
>> > Why ?
>> Childish shite and simply drawn cartoons that belong in the 70s. What happened to CGI?
>
> It's for people with little imagination.