On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 14:17:28 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, 16 June 2022 at 07:45:17 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Thu, 09 Jun 2022 14:34:35 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 at 21:18:48 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 06 Jun 2022 11:23:43 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > But EVs typically rub on 400V peolpe managed to site in them without getting electrucuted.
>> >> The batteries are sealed just incase you go through a ford and kill all the fish or a dog/person wading across. Pathetic health and softy but I guess it also means you don't bust the car.
>> >
>> > Best to have such things sealed, some nasty chemicals in them too.
>> Best to use petrol.
>
> until it runs out

47 years left.

>> >> >> > You're more likely to be killed by holding on to a 110V than from a 230V that breaks a connection via a fuse or breaker.
>> >> >> Bullshit, absolute bullshit. The fuse or breaker (assuming you mean a current one, not an earth leakage one) will blow when over 13 amps or whatever flows. That's way more than will go through you as you have a fair bit of resistance, so it will never trip.
>> >> >
>> >> > That's why we have earth leakage ones.
>> >> Those are a pest, they trip when you run a microwave, or turn on several computers at once (filter capacitors).
>> >
>> > we have them and they aren't a problem but it depends which type I guess.
>> Yeah some are stupidly sensitive, not sure what the over the top regs are in unis, but in schools they want them to trip faster than in houses, because magically the kids are more sensitive when they're not at home.
> Maybe being smaller kids ahve lower resistance and genallry wetter snd snottier or whatever.
>
>> > We can typically turn on 48 computers all at once. Most are in banks of 12.
>> Try actually plugging them in all at once. As in turning them on together with a power strip or three. The filter caps in the PSUs can trip the earth leakage breakers, because well those caps are supposed to conduct a bit to earth!
>
> Bad design, to save money.

No bad design anywhere. Explain.

>> >> >> >> >> >> This is because of extra contact resistance causing heat/burning, and
>> >> >> >> >> >> potentially (ha ha) poor grounding/earthing.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> They are also of very variable quality and can degenerate (contacts wear
>> >> >> >> >> >> or become less tight) with use. Many cheap ones are extremely crappy to
>> >> >> >> >> >> start off with !
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > yes I've noticed that about some really cheap ones. I have a few where even the rocker switch
>> >> >> >> >> > doesn;t always swith off the individual socket like it should, but I only use these ones for chargers
>> >> >> >> >> > cerainly wouldn't put a heater, kettle or anyhting about about 1kw on it.
>> >> >> >> >> I have an expensive professional strip stolen from a network cabinet and the switch died on that. Ok I was running it at 4kW....
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Wonder what made it expensive maybe the cable contained thick copper strands rather than some cheap £1 shop
>> >> >> >> > that I heard use aluminium.
>> >> >> >> Aluminium was only cheaper for a short time in the long distant past, which is why some phone cables are aluminium, which makes them shit for broadband.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > and shit for charging too.
>> >> >> I don't charge things off my phoneline.
>> >> >
>> >> > Most charge their phones via a USB cable, I do.
>> >> I've never had a USB cable that refused to charge my phone.
>> >
>> > I've had a few, it's the only ones the students leave in the lab, they rarley leave anything decent behind.
>> They've probably snapped the conductors inside. Who knows what they get up to when drunk.
>
> Few of our students are drunk, it's not like the olde days of univs.

How old are we talking? When me and my sister were at uni everyone got drunk regularly. I'm 46 and she's 41.

>> >> >> > even thin copper isn't best for charging, the longer the cable the more shitty it usually is unless.
>> >> >> > Which is why almost any cable as a lenght limit including mains and USB.
>> >> >> Never come across a length prpblem apart from when I connected up my own solar panels. Running 12V from the garage roof to the house was annoying, as I would drop a couple of volts easily.
>> >> > Happens in boats t a friend had this problem he couldn't start the engine, he thought he could save money by using old mains cable from the battery to the started motor.
>> >> I was told I had to run very thick cable for my 6kW car stereo. My friend fitted a huge capacitor in the boot of his car. I just added a second battery in the back.
>> >
>> > Different usage those capacitors are to support the high current drawn when the bass kicks in.
>>
>> Same idea, it allows a huge current draw for a short time, saving you on an enormous cable. Mind you they probably wouldn't power a starter for long enough to get the engine fired up.
>> >> >> >> If you want to see cheap, do what I did and buy an 18650 battery charger for 99p including postage from China. The plug actually had PLASTIC pins, PAINTED to conduct! It worked though, until the exceedingly thin wire through a bit of tugging through normal use shorted out. When I plugged it in the other day there was a big flash as the very thin wire evaporated. Oh well it charges batteries ok, I just need to put a wire and plug on it.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Wate money on expensive wire, just use the silver foil from kit-kat wrappers.
>> >> >> > If it's good enough for junkies, instead of buying expensive bacofoil......
>> >> >> It's amazing the shit people try to sell on Ebay, I just bought a phone protective cover advertised as a full cover for both sides made of silicone (soft, absorbs shock). But no, one side was cheap hard plastic, which he just tried to convince me protected the phone better. I guess he doesn't understand crumple zones. Well guess who's paying for the return postage.
>> >> >
>> >> > I rarely use ebay for this sort of reason, not worth my time pissing about with it. I thinbk this is why the college doesnt; allow us to use ebay
>> >> > unless 'we' take responsibility.
>> >> I used Ebay all the time at the school, got everything about a third of the price of the "correct" suppliers. I was collecting a couple of grand a month from petty cash.
>> >
>> > They won't allow us to use petty cash, everything has to have some for of paper or perhaps PDF trail.
>> You need to go to a procurement meeting and point out they're buying from the wrong sources. They tend not to like it when you point out they're receiving back handers from the suppliers.
>
> Well they try to stop it, but when you're boss is the one doing the fiddling.

Then point it out to someone higher up, or the police.

>> >> Who cares if some stuff is shit, you just get your money back.
>> >
>> > Some people don't or it takes too long .
>> I have loads of free stuff from China which is good enough for what I need, but not what they advertised, so they pay me 100% refund, and the postage costs too much to send it back so they just let me keep it. For example, if you want a 12V 4A supply, buy a 12V 8A supply. A Chinese amp is about two normal amps. You can get 4A out of it, but when you tell them it can't do 8, you get it for free.
>
> Not worth the effort and I doubt that would happen if we bought 50, which was the last large purchases of 5Amp PSU's
> China but from a reputable source.

You buy a couple from 25 different sellers.

>> > we're having problems getting raspberry Pi 4s at the moment.
>> Problems getting them at all, or problems getting them at a reasonable price?
>
> Problems getting them, they filter though 1 per customer from some suppliers.

Then get each member of staff or student to buy one each.

Or use Ebay, I can see 40 people selling those from £60 to £100. And more at a higher price.

>> > Most of the stuff we buy isn't cheaper on ebay anyway.
>> Some stuff is, some stuff isn't. I don't understand some sellers, when you subtract what they must pay for postage and Ebay fees, they end up with 50p. So unless they're stealing the goods, that's not a profit.
>
> could be for currency.

On Fri, 24 Jun 2022 11:36:22 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 22 June 2022 at 19:22:38 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2022 09:54:39 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Tuesday, 14 June 2022 at 04:53:42 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 09 Jun 2022 14:40:37 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 at 21:27:53 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, 06 Jun 2022 11:23:43 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > A friend of mine said she kept feeling tiggly when in the shower. So I went over and found that the boidger had installed the shower
>> >> >> > using twin and earth and that the Live had shorted to the earth making the shower head live, and the flat wasn;t earthed.
>> >> >> > She';s lucky she wasn't killed, if it had been earthed the fuse would have blown.
>> >> >> All showers and everything in houses are fitted using twin and earth. No idea why, flex is easier to work with and within regulations. And safer too, it's not stiff so doesn't snap at the connection, and you don't have that stupid unsleeved earth.
>> >> >
>> >> > Some of it's due to how long it will last the type of pastic used for flex insulation persishes quicker than the less flexable used for twin and earth.
>> >> I doubt it or it wouldn't pass the regulations.
>> >
>> > Different regulations for Different uses.
>> No, you are allowed to use flex for running a ring main for example.
>> >> > TWE also has a higher sustained current rating
>> >> Bullshit. Both have varying ratings depending on how thick the conductors are, you buy what's appropriate.
>> >
>> > Yep that's the idea.
>> So your statement is meaningless. TWE does not have a higher current rating. Both types have any current rating.
>> >> > and I think the TwE insulation is less likely to melt at the temerature that a flex might start to melt at.
>> >> I doubt it. Try leaving the flex for your table lamp against a hot central heating radiator.
>> >
>> > and what would happen then ?
>> > And over how many years.
>> Here is TWE being overloaded:
>> https://youtu.be/bBYHtBPbBJE?t=363
>> Notice he says it's rated to 70C, about the temperature of a central heating radiator, which flex is fine leaning against.
>
> Yes when it's overrated I doubt flex would be any different.
> Shown the importance of having a fuse and maybe a MCB or RCD would trip quicker as the insulation burns through and they conductors short to earth.

Any fuse or breaker would trip very quickly with an overload that big, way before the wire. You don't need ELCB for that.

What annoys me is unfused wires, take for example the monumentally stupid design of a ring main. So if one side comes undone, everything continues to work, but the fuse is no longer suitable for the single wire left.

We used to have a brilliant system with the round pin ones, fuse in the box for every outlet.

No idea why they got rid of the round pins.

>> Continue watching, or fastforward, to see it catastrophically fail.
>> Apologies for the Queen's English.
>
> ;-)
>
>> >> The reason flex is flexible isn't a different insulation, the same stuff could be used, it's because the conductors are thick instead of many fine strands.
>> > The thinkness of the insulation also has an effect.
>> It's similar thickness. The copper is what stiffens it. In fact if you strip some of it the insulation is quite flexible, while the copper remains stiff.

On Fri, 24 Jun 2022 12:35:40 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, 23 June 2022 at 19:52:18 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 13:53:27 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Wednesday, 15 June 2022 at 09:19:30 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 13 Jun 2022 13:10:25 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Saturday, 11 June 2022 at 01:59:32 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> On Thu, 09 Jun 2022 13:38:40 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 at 19:42:10 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Mon, 06 Jun 2022 10:49:44 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 at 04:29:38 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 16 May 2022 14:49:43 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > On Friday, 13 May 2022 at 02:05:22 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 05 May 2022 14:01:01 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > On Thursday, 5 May 2022 at 12:24:55 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 04 May 2022 23:16:42 +0100, David Brooks <D...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > You really are nuts!
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> What do you use your handbrake for? It really does serve no purpose.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > I thought it's main use was for when you park on a hill.
>> >> >> >> >> >> It would have to be a fucking steep hill,
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > we even have some of those in London, thought you'd have some in scotland too.
>> >> >> >> >> Not often I park on them. Can always turn the wheel to the kerb, instead of relying on a brake which is operated by something very similar to a bicycle brake cable!
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Seems to work for most people I didn;t think turning the steering wheel would stop a car moving I thought that was how you made it go
>> >> >> >> > in a particular directionof choice.
>> >> >> >> It stops it when the wheels rest against the kerb obviously, everyone knows that.
>> >> >> > I guess all the roads you stop on have kerbs, even I;'ve had to stop on a hill where there was no kerb at that's in London.
>> >> >> If there's no kerb, there's usually something uneven about it. Anyway you only need that on a steep hill. Putting it in gear should normally be enough.
>> >> >
>> >> > Strange thatcars still have handbrakes if they are not needed.
>> >> They are if you live in a steep area, or are too thick to be able to do a hill start with the footbrake.
>> >
>> > I thought cars could be used for traveling around and even visiting places you don't live.
>> > Been strange to see a car without a handbrake and there's a warning sticker saying not to be driven to places where you don't live or where there are steep hills.
>> > I know F1 cars dont; have them but it;s not exactly a large market for such cars.
>> It needs to be a very steep hill to need the handbrake. I've only ever encountered two.
>
> I've encountered more than that on driving lessons

Are you younger than I thought? I thought you were older than me.

> in chingford mount with a bus lane on the left
> there was no kerb, waiting for the lights and the large lorry trying to turn.
> If handbrakes weren't useful they wouldn;t waste money having them.

They're for learner drivers. I hill start with the footbrake.

>> >> >> >> >> >> I just use the gears or turn the wheels into the kerb. I did once park on a steep hill without turning the wheels to the kerb. A passerby shouted to me "your car is dancing!" It was trying to start the engine and jumping back a few inches at a time in gear.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > I wonder how Electric cars get around this, as I didn;t think they had gears in the same way.
>> >> >> >> >> Shorted motor? Or the same as an automatic petrol car, a bolt through the gearbox.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > why would an electric car have a gear box ?
>> >> >> >> It could go through something else. And sports one sometimes do, but usually not as it's hard to make one that can take that much power.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > That's not what they are for.
>> >> >> Not what what are for? Gearboxes or stopping pins?
>> >> >
>> >> > Hand brakes aren't for power stopping.
>> >> WTf do you mean "power" stopping. I'm talking about preventing movement when parked.
>> >
>> > Yes that was what they are for but yuo seem to think they aren;t needed beacuse you can use steering of just not stoping on slopes is the answer
>> If it's a town road with a kerb, then yes you can use the kerb like a chock.
>> >> > Youy don;t use the handbrake for an emergency stop.
>> >> You do when the footbrake fails. I had a car for 6 months with zero footbrakes, I used gears and the handbrake to come to a stop.
>> >
>> > Lucky they yuo had a handbrake in yuor world you say they aren;t needed so how would you have stopped the car ?
>> I would have fixed one of foot/handbrake.
>
> you said you had that situation for 6 months how long does it take to fix a handbrake ?

It wasn't broken, the footbrake was broken.

>> > Oh yes using stearing to the kerb of driving up steep hills to slow down.
>> Why would I need to slow down when going uphill?
>
> when approaching lights, changing to red when the bus stops.

Gears.

>> > You sound like something from a Mr Bean sketch.
>> I must give you a lift sometime, you'll be grabbing things for dear life. I once gave a lift to three colleagues. The one in the front seat found it amusing when I went more than double the speed limit over speedbumps, causing the women in the back to bash their heads off the roof.
>
> Only been in a speeding car twice once a cab at 3am. about 60 or a 30 road. The police stopped him, but I surprised when they just said oh it's a BMW and then said just don;t do it again and that was it.

They let him off because it was a BMW?

That's not what happened when I was going a tonne on the motorway and a BMW overtook me about 130.

> Thought I might have to walk a mile+ home.

The police should have had to give you a lift.

> Another time in cornwall which was more scary as it was a single road with hedges on either side
> but he was a local so I guess he knew the chances of an oncoming vehicle was low.
> But in london your lucky if you can get to 30MPH on most roads

I dare you to get a lift off me, I'll scare you shitless. If the tyres don't squeal, you didn't go round the corner fast enough.

>> >> >> >> >> >> > Or tan attempt to make yuor car difficult to be stolen or moved
>> >> >> >> >> >> > without the drivers or owners permission.
>> >> >> >> >> >> Handbrakes are very weak, that wouldn't stop anyone. You just put the car onto a tow truck anyway.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Little chance of getting a tow truck for such a thing near me, cars parked to close together.
>> >> >> >> >> You live in a city? Why?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Same reason most people do, can't really imagine living out in the sticks what do people do all day and night.
>> >> >> >> Drove 10 miles to what you do. Or not do nightclubs that are for teenagers.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > You mean for those that are to old to live.
>> >> >> Are you a teenager?
>> >> >
>> >> > No, do you think only teenages go to nightclubs.
>> >> Yes, and those who never grew up. Which are you?
>> >
>> > Both depending how I feel.
>> > I'm not ready for teh local retirement home, not even ready to book my place as you obviously are.
>> I can be a childish arsehole too, but not with social shit like nightclubs.
>
> I prefer them to pubs, but never been tempted by festivals like Glastonbury (outdoor that is)

On Saturday, 25 June 2022 at 16:21:15 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 14:17:28 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, 16 June 2022 at 07:45:17 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Thu, 09 Jun 2022 14:34:35 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 at 21:18:48 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 06 Jun 2022 11:23:43 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > But EVs typically rub on 400V peolpe managed to site in them without getting electrucuted.
> >> >> The batteries are sealed just incase you go through a ford and kill all the fish or a dog/person wading across. Pathetic health and softy but I guess it also means you don't bust the car.
> >> >
> >> > Best to have such things sealed, some nasty chemicals in them too.
> >> Best to use petrol.
> >
> > until it runs out
> 47 years left.

Not long in the real world then prices already rising I doubt it will ever be cheap especially in the UK.

> >> >> >> > You're more likely to be killed by holding on to a 110V than from a 230V that breaks a connection via a fuse or breaker.
> >> >> >> Bullshit, absolute bullshit. The fuse or breaker (assuming you mean a current one, not an earth leakage one) will blow when over 13 amps or whatever flows. That's way more than will go through you as you have a fair bit of resistance, so it will never trip.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That's why we have earth leakage ones.
> >> >> Those are a pest, they trip when you run a microwave, or turn on several computers at once (filter capacitors).
> >> >
> >> > we have them and they aren't a problem but it depends which type I guess.
> >> Yeah some are stupidly sensitive, not sure what the over the top regs are in unis, but in schools they want them to trip faster than in houses, because magically the kids are more sensitive when they're not at home.
> > Maybe being smaller kids ahve lower resistance and genallry wetter snd snottier or whatever.
> >
> >> > We can typically turn on 48 computers all at once. Most are in banks of 12.
> >> Try actually plugging them in all at once. As in turning them on together with a power strip or three. The filter caps in the PSUs can trip the earth leakage breakers, because well those caps are supposed to conduct a bit to earth!
> >
> > Bad design, to save money.
> No bad design anywhere. Explain.

Why design something that trip breakers

> >> >> >> >> >> >> This is because of extra contact resistance causing heat/burning, and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> potentially (ha ha) poor grounding/earthing.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> They are also of very variable quality and can degenerate (contacts wear
> >> >> >> >> >> >> or become less tight) with use. Many cheap ones are extremely crappy to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> start off with !
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > yes I've noticed that about some really cheap ones. I have a few where even the rocker switch
> >> >> >> >> >> > doesn;t always swith off the individual socket like it should, but I only use these ones for chargers
> >> >> >> >> >> > cerainly wouldn't put a heater, kettle or anyhting about about 1kw on it.
> >> >> >> >> >> I have an expensive professional strip stolen from a network cabinet and the switch died on that. Ok I was running it at 4kW....
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Wonder what made it expensive maybe the cable contained thick copper strands rather than some cheap £1 shop
> >> >> >> >> > that I heard use aluminium.
> >> >> >> >> Aluminium was only cheaper for a short time in the long distant past, which is why some phone cables are aluminium, which makes them shit for broadband.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > and shit for charging too.
> >> >> >> I don't charge things off my phoneline.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Most charge their phones via a USB cable, I do.
> >> >> I've never had a USB cable that refused to charge my phone.
> >> >
> >> > I've had a few, it's the only ones the students leave in the lab, they rarley leave anything decent behind.
> >> They've probably snapped the conductors inside. Who knows what they get up to when drunk.
> >
> > Few of our students are drunk, it's not like the olde days of univs.
> How old are we talking? When me and my sister were at uni everyone got drunk regularly. I'm 46 and she's 41.

1980s , since the mid 90s we have a lot of Muslim students and few of them drink, it's also more expensive and students have to take out loans. Accommodation is expensive too. Plus there's lots of things they seem to prefer spending money on.

> >> >> >> > even thin copper isn't best for charging, the longer the cable the more shitty it usually is unless.
> >> >> >> > Which is why almost any cable as a lenght limit including mains and USB.
> >> >> >> Never come across a length prpblem apart from when I connected up my own solar panels. Running 12V from the garage roof to the house was annoying, as I would drop a couple of volts easily.
> >> >> > Happens in boats t a friend had this problem he couldn't start the engine, he thought he could save money by using old mains cable from the battery to the started motor.
> >> >> I was told I had to run very thick cable for my 6kW car stereo. My friend fitted a huge capacitor in the boot of his car. I just added a second battery in the back.
> >> >
> >> > Different usage those capacitors are to support the high current drawn when the bass kicks in.
> >>
> >> Same idea, it allows a huge current draw for a short time, saving you on an enormous cable. Mind you they probably wouldn't power a starter for long enough to get the engine fired up.
> >> >> >> >> If you want to see cheap, do what I did and buy an 18650 battery charger for 99p including postage from China. The plug actually had PLASTIC pins, PAINTED to conduct! It worked though, until the exceedingly thin wire through a bit of tugging through normal use shorted out. When I plugged it in the other day there was a big flash as the very thin wire evaporated. Oh well it charges batteries ok, I just need to put a wire and plug on it.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Wate money on expensive wire, just use the silver foil from kit-kat wrappers.
> >> >> >> > If it's good enough for junkies, instead of buying expensive bacofoil......
> >> >> >> It's amazing the shit people try to sell on Ebay, I just bought a phone protective cover advertised as a full cover for both sides made of silicone (soft, absorbs shock). But no, one side was cheap hard plastic, which he just tried to convince me protected the phone better. I guess he doesn't understand crumple zones. Well guess who's paying for the return postage.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I rarely use ebay for this sort of reason, not worth my time pissing about with it. I thinbk this is why the college doesnt; allow us to use ebay
> >> >> > unless 'we' take responsibility.
> >> >> I used Ebay all the time at the school, got everything about a third of the price of the "correct" suppliers. I was collecting a couple of grand a month from petty cash.
> >> >
> >> > They won't allow us to use petty cash, everything has to have some for of paper or perhaps PDF trail.
> >> You need to go to a procurement meeting and point out they're buying from the wrong sources. They tend not to like it when you point out they're receiving back handers from the suppliers.
> >
> > Well they try to stop it, but when you're boss is the one doing the fiddling.
> Then point it out to someone higher up, or the police.

The police aren't really interested unless it's really large scale.
Best to keep quiet about it few are interested it can take years to get anything done, then you find someone leaves
or gets promoted, or is encourage to take another job.

> >> >> Who cares if some stuff is shit, you just get your money back.
> >> >
> >> > Some people don't or it takes too long .
> >> I have loads of free stuff from China which is good enough for what I need, but not what they advertised, so they pay me 100% refund, and the postage costs too much to send it back so they just let me keep it. For example, if you want a 12V 4A supply, buy a 12V 8A supply. A Chinese amp is about two normal amps. You can get 4A out of it, but when you tell them it can't do 8, you get it for free.

On Saturday, 25 June 2022 at 19:09:17 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Jun 2022 11:36:22 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, 22 June 2022 at 19:22:38 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Tue, 14 Jun 2022 09:54:39 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Tuesday, 14 June 2022 at 04:53:42 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, 09 Jun 2022 14:40:37 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 at 21:27:53 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> >> On Mon, 06 Jun 2022 11:23:43 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> > A friend of mine said she kept feeling tiggly when in the shower. So I went over and found that the boidger had installed the shower
> >> >> >> > using twin and earth and that the Live had shorted to the earth making the shower head live, and the flat wasn;t earthed.
> >> >> >> > She';s lucky she wasn't killed, if it had been earthed the fuse would have blown.
> >> >> >> All showers and everything in houses are fitted using twin and earth. No idea why, flex is easier to work with and within regulations. And safer too, it's not stiff so doesn't snap at the connection, and you don't have that stupid unsleeved earth.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Some of it's due to how long it will last the type of pastic used for flex insulation persishes quicker than the less flexable used for twin and earth.
> >> >> I doubt it or it wouldn't pass the regulations.
> >> >
> >> > Different regulations for Different uses.
> >> No, you are allowed to use flex for running a ring main for example.
> >> >> > TWE also has a higher sustained current rating
> >> >> Bullshit. Both have varying ratings depending on how thick the conductors are, you buy what's appropriate.
> >> >
> >> > Yep that's the idea.
> >> So your statement is meaningless. TWE does not have a higher current rating. Both types have any current rating.
> >> >> > and I think the TwE insulation is less likely to melt at the temerature that a flex might start to melt at.
> >> >> I doubt it. Try leaving the flex for your table lamp against a hot central heating radiator.
> >> >
> >> > and what would happen then ?
> >> > And over how many years.
> >> Here is TWE being overloaded:
> >> https://youtu.be/bBYHtBPbBJE?t=363
> >> Notice he says it's rated to 70C, about the temperature of a central heating radiator, which flex is fine leaning against.
> >
> > Yes when it's overrated I doubt flex would be any different.
> > Shown the importance of having a fuse and maybe a MCB or RCD would trip quicker as the insulation burns through and they conductors short to earth..
> Any fuse or breaker would trip very quickly with an overload that big, way before the wire. You don't need ELCB for that.

That's not what a ELCB is for. Think our a MCBs localised for each bench.

>
> What annoys me is unfused wires, take for example the monumentally stupid design of a ring main. So if one side comes undone, everything continues to work, but the fuse is no longer suitable for the single wire left.
>
> We used to have a brilliant system with the round pin ones, fuse in the box for every outlet.

>
> No idea why they got rid of the round pins.

There's info about it it's a history thing just google it.

> >> Continue watching, or fastforward, to see it catastrophically fail.
> >> Apologies for the Queen's English.
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> >> >> The reason flex is flexible isn't a different insulation, the same stuff could be used, it's because the conductors are thick instead of many fine strands.
> >> > The thinkness of the insulation also has an effect.
> >> It's similar thickness. The copper is what stiffens it. In fact if you strip some of it the insulation is quite flexible, while the copper remains stiff.

On Saturday, 25 June 2022 at 19:29:13 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Jun 2022 12:35:40 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, 23 June 2022 at 19:52:18 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 13:53:27 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Wednesday, 15 June 2022 at 09:19:30 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 13 Jun 2022 13:10:25 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Saturday, 11 June 2022 at 01:59:32 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> >> On Thu, 09 Jun 2022 13:38:40 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 at 19:42:10 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 06 Jun 2022 10:49:44 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 at 04:29:38 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 16 May 2022 14:49:43 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > On Friday, 13 May 2022 at 02:05:22 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 05 May 2022 14:01:01 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Thursday, 5 May 2022 at 12:24:55 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 04 May 2022 23:16:42 +0100, David Brooks <D....@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > You really are nuts!
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What do you use your handbrake for? It really does serve no purpose.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I thought it's main use was for when you park on a hill.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> It would have to be a fucking steep hill,
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > we even have some of those in London, thought you'd have some in scotland too.
> >> >> >> >> >> Not often I park on them. Can always turn the wheel to the kerb, instead of relying on a brake which is operated by something very similar to a bicycle brake cable!
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Seems to work for most people I didn;t think turning the steering wheel would stop a car moving I thought that was how you made it go
> >> >> >> >> > in a particular directionof choice.
> >> >> >> >> It stops it when the wheels rest against the kerb obviously, everyone knows that.
> >> >> >> > I guess all the roads you stop on have kerbs, even I;'ve had to stop on a hill where there was no kerb at that's in London.
> >> >> >> If there's no kerb, there's usually something uneven about it. Anyway you only need that on a steep hill. Putting it in gear should normally be enough.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Strange thatcars still have handbrakes if they are not needed.
> >> >> They are if you live in a steep area, or are too thick to be able to do a hill start with the footbrake.
> >> >
> >> > I thought cars could be used for traveling around and even visiting places you don't live.
> >> > Been strange to see a car without a handbrake and there's a warning sticker saying not to be driven to places where you don't live or where there are steep hills.
> >> > I know F1 cars dont; have them but it;s not exactly a large market for such cars.
> >> It needs to be a very steep hill to need the handbrake. I've only ever encountered two.
> >
> > I've encountered more than that on driving lessons
> Are you younger than I thought? I thought you were older than me.

Yep I am older than you.

> > in chingford mount with a bus lane on the left
> > there was no kerb, waiting for the lights and the large lorry trying to turn.
> > If handbrakes weren't useful they wouldn;t waste money having them.
> They're for learner drivers. I hill start with the footbrake.

doesn't mean it the best way though.

> >> >> >> >> >> >> I just use the gears or turn the wheels into the kerb. I did once park on a steep hill without turning the wheels to the kerb. A passerby shouted to me "your car is dancing!" It was trying to start the engine and jumping back a few inches at a time in gear.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > I wonder how Electric cars get around this, as I didn;t think they had gears in the same way.
> >> >> >> >> >> Shorted motor? Or the same as an automatic petrol car, a bolt through the gearbox.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > why would an electric car have a gear box ?
> >> >> >> >> It could go through something else. And sports one sometimes do, but usually not as it's hard to make one that can take that much power.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > That's not what they are for.
> >> >> >> Not what what are for? Gearboxes or stopping pins?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hand brakes aren't for power stopping.
> >> >> WTf do you mean "power" stopping. I'm talking about preventing movement when parked.
> >> >
> >> > Yes that was what they are for but yuo seem to think they aren;t needed beacuse you can use steering of just not stoping on slopes is the answer
> >> If it's a town road with a kerb, then yes you can use the kerb like a chock.
> >> >> > Youy don;t use the handbrake for an emergency stop.
> >> >> You do when the footbrake fails. I had a car for 6 months with zero footbrakes, I used gears and the handbrake to come to a stop.
> >> >
> >> > Lucky they yuo had a handbrake in yuor world you say they aren;t needed so how would you have stopped the car ?
> >> I would have fixed one of foot/handbrake.
> >
> > you said you had that situation for 6 months how long does it take to fix a handbrake ?
> It wasn't broken, the footbrake was broken.

So you used the handbrake lucky had one.

> >> > Oh yes using stearing to the kerb of driving up steep hills to slow down.
> >> Why would I need to slow down when going uphill?
> >
> > when approaching lights, changing to red when the bus stops.
> Gears.

are for slowing down or speeding up

> >> > You sound like something from a Mr Bean sketch.
> >> I must give you a lift sometime, you'll be grabbing things for dear life. I once gave a lift to three colleagues. The one in the front seat found it amusing when I went more than double the speed limit over speedbumps, causing the women in the back to bash their heads off the roof.
> >
> > Only been in a speeding car twice once a cab at 3am. about 60 or a 30 road. The police stopped him, but I surprised when they just said oh it's a BMW and then said just don;t do it again and that was it.
> They let him off because it was a BMW?

That's what it sounded like they had trouble catching up catching up, must have been quite a fast acceleration
as it took them a while, he stopped apologised, said he was a cab and driving up home.
The road was pretty empty at that time. He wasn't a boy racer I think they could tell.

>
> That's not what happened when I was going a tonne on the motorway and a BMW overtook me about 130.
> > Thought I might have to walk a mile+ home.
> The police should have had to give you a lift.
> > Another time in cornwall which was more scary as it was a single road with hedges on either side
> > but he was a local so I guess he knew the chances of an oncoming vehicle was low.
> > But in london your lucky if you can get to 30MPH on most roads
> I dare you to get a lift off me, I'll scare you shitless. If the tyres don't squeal, you didn't go round the corner fast enough.

Maybe you can do that where you live but around here it;s just not possible to much traffic.

> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Or tan attempt to make yuor car difficult to be stolen or moved
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > without the drivers or owners permission.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Handbrakes are very weak, that wouldn't stop anyone. You just put the car onto a tow truck anyway.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Little chance of getting a tow truck for such a thing near me, cars parked to close together.
> >> >> >> >> >> You live in a city? Why?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Same reason most people do, can't really imagine living out in the sticks what do people do all day and night.
> >> >> >> >> Drove 10 miles to what you do. Or not do nightclubs that are for teenagers.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > You mean for those that are to old to live.
> >> >> >> Are you a teenager?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > No, do you think only teenages go to nightclubs.
> >> >> Yes, and those who never grew up. Which are you?
> >> >
> >> > Both depending how I feel.
> >> > I'm not ready for teh local retirement home, not even ready to book my place as you obviously are.
> >> I can be a childish arsehole too, but not with social shit like nightclubs.
> >
> > I prefer them to pubs, but never been tempted by festivals like Glastonbury (outdoor that is)
> That sounds fun with all the mud and scantily clad girls.

>> > Not worth the effort and I doubt that would happen if we bought 50, which was the last large purchases of 5Amp PSU's
>> > China but from a reputable source.
>> You buy a couple from 25 different sellers.
>
> We can;t do that we have to go through a process with finance and get approvals and quotes for some things.

So did I, until I kicked up a fuss and quoted several instances where I could save up to two thirds on the price.

> we bought 50 of these Bench Top Linear Power Supply, 0-30V 5A with Twin Outputs.

These? Did you drop a link?

>> >> > we're having problems getting raspberry Pi 4s at the moment.
>> >> Problems getting them at all, or problems getting them at a reasonable price?
>> >
>> > Problems getting them, they filter though 1 per customer from some suppliers.
>>
>> Then get each member of staff or student to buy one each.
>
> yuo can;t do that as it's open to fiddling and not very efficient.

If it's the only way to get them....

>> Or use Ebay, I can see 40 people selling those from £60 to £100. And more at a higher price.
>
> we get them for £60 with a free PSU ,card reader USB lead SD card as a kit .
> we wanted 3 rapid do them for £62 when they are ins stock, the students said they wanted the pi 4 bit when we told the lecturer what the students wanted he said don't bother they can use pi 3s for what they are doing and I have 4 in my office they can have. So that's what happened.
> When they come in stock we'll buy a couple until then students have to learn what is available and in stock.

The students should be learning to shop around.

>> >> > Most of the stuff we buy isn't cheaper on ebay anyway.
>> >> Some stuff is, some stuff isn't. I don't understand some sellers, when you subtract what they must pay for postage and Ebay fees, they end up with 50p. So unless they're stealing the goods, that's not a profit.
>> >
>> > could be for currency.
>> Huh?
>
> Money laundering .

I don't know how that works.

> If something is cheaper on ebay we have used it in the past we bought 100 RGB LEDs
> cheap and easy to test if woiking the 10% or so they didn't you can just throw away.

Ah so you can use Ebay. You were objecting to it earlier.

> Just bought 300 MES 10 bulb holder £1.79 each the suppliers on ebay were charging £4-£6.
> We get university discounts from out suppliers works out about 10-20% free P&P and we know they'kk arrive in a couple of days at most.

I used to get projector bulbs for less than what another supplier claimed was the manufacturer's price. I guess the company we used was getting a subsidy.

>> >> >> >> >> >> > It's also to clear the washing machine manufacture if a fire is caused by the washing machine.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > If you've not followed the instructions then the warrenty can also be void and insurance.
>> >> >> >> >> >> This blame bullshit should have stayed in childish America.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > AS we know they even allow kids to buy guns in america.
>> >> >> >> >> All Americans have the mental age of kids.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > well most do, not quite all,
>> >> >> >> There might be the odd scientist with intelligence, but they're most likely Oriental and not actual Americans.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Japan = IQ 106
>> >> >> >> China = IQ 105
>> >> >> >> UK = IQ 99
>> >> >> >> America = IQ 97
>> >> >> >> Gorilla = IQ 80
>> >> >> >> Nigerian = IQ 65
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Yes, seriously, Gorillas are officially cleverer than Niggers.
>> >> >
>> >> >> >> > then ther;es trump supporters which might be able to win and IQ contest
>> >> >> >> > against the contents of a cat littler tray btu I wouldn't bet on it.
>> >> >> >> Trump supporters are the bright ones. Right wing = common sense, left wing = theives.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Common sense to drink bleach to cure covid, there;s a reason why so many trump supports died of covid
>> >> >> > they believe God would protect them from covid, but they still need to buy guns because obviously God can't protect them.
>> >> >> > That canadians burned the white house, and there were airports in the 17th century.
>> >> >> Anyone who believes in god after covid is a moron.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Trump survived covid.
>> >> > He needed a dozen doctors and was injected with large amounts of certain drugs that aren't availble to everyone.
>> >> But he's a fat fuck.
>> >
>> > and that's being polite about him
>> His policies are wonderful.
>
> He doesn't have any other than to make himself rich.

He's far right, which I like.

> I wonder if he'll be able to run for office next year or will he end up on prison.
> How can anyone lose money running a casino .
> An airline that doesn;t fly, and as for trump university.

Americans always try to get their politicians in prison. They vote someone in then get upset about it, it's pathetic.

>> >> > Strange he needed so many doctors and drugs to cure him from a fake disease.
>> >> It doesn't kill fit people.
>> >
>> > It can and has .
>> Not often. And you never know when someone has a hidden defect.
>
> Often enough

Those people need to be removed from the gene pool.

>> >> How come this guy, who has a heart condition, survived it twice?
>> >> https://www.patreon.com/krzyszp
>> >> >> It only kills the weak.
>> >> > Only the weak minded think that.
>> >> Mind and body are one and the same.
>> >
>> > Like stephen hawking you mean .
>> That's hardly the norm.
>
> He was lucky he was found to be intelligent before he became ill.

He didn't live as good a life as you think. His relatives didn't take care of him.

>> >> > https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/17149942/anti-vax-kickboxing-champ-frederic-sinistra-dead-covid/
>> >>
>> >> Steroids perhaps?
>> >> > But it's not just the deaths it's the overall effect.
>> >> The overall effect is stupid governments imposing lockdowns and fucking everything up.
>> >>
>> >> > I've notice that I haven't even had a cold of any sort since wearing a mask and hand sanatising.
>> >> > I usually get at least 3 a year and one thatv I need to take time off from work.
>> >> I avoided colds very easily. See when you go through a double door? Always use the one the person in front didn't.
>> >
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD_pWvfDiiE
>> >
>> > my office is at about 1:35
>> >
>> > and with 600 students in the lab how do you tell which handle a particual students used ?
>> > and the 100s of leads and equipment in the lab, the knobs buttons etc...
>> I was thinking more of people going along corridors.
>
> Yes and cafe's bar, lectures, .

I was thinking of the corridors. In busy areas you're fucked.

>> >> Also ice baths prevent colds.
>> >
>> > We don't have them in the lab, or on public transport.
>> You use one at home or in a gym.
>
> Why did they close the gyms then oh yeah all that putting and blowing ..

They closed stuff because they're stupid.

> I had to stop a couple of students doing a project where they were measuring heart rates and stuff jumping about
> sharing heart rate sensors pulse sensors . If they want to do that go outside not in a lab.

What was your objection?

On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 01:49:30 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, 25 June 2022 at 16:21:15 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 14:17:28 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Thursday, 16 June 2022 at 07:45:17 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 09 Jun 2022 14:34:35 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 at 21:18:48 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, 06 Jun 2022 11:23:43 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail..com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > But EVs typically rub on 400V peolpe managed to site in them without getting electrucuted.
>> >> >> The batteries are sealed just incase you go through a ford and kill all the fish or a dog/person wading across. Pathetic health and softy but I guess it also means you don't bust the car.
>> >> >
>> >> > Best to have such things sealed, some nasty chemicals in them too.
>> >> Best to use petrol.
>> >
>> > until it runs out
>> 47 years left.
>
> Not long in the real world then prices already rising I doubt it will ever be cheap especially in the UK.

Only rising because of a fake war with Russia.

EDF seems to think they will rise a lot more. My electricity was 16p a unit, now 28p, and was offered a fixed price for 2 years of 47p!

>> >> >> >> > You're more likely to be killed by holding on to a 110V than from a 230V that breaks a connection via a fuse or breaker.
>> >> >> >> Bullshit, absolute bullshit. The fuse or breaker (assuming you mean a current one, not an earth leakage one) will blow when over 13 amps or whatever flows. That's way more than will go through you as you have a fair bit of resistance, so it will never trip.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > That's why we have earth leakage ones.
>> >> >> Those are a pest, they trip when you run a microwave, or turn on several computers at once (filter capacitors).
>> >> >
>> >> > we have them and they aren't a problem but it depends which type I guess.
>> >> Yeah some are stupidly sensitive, not sure what the over the top regs are in unis, but in schools they want them to trip faster than in houses, because magically the kids are more sensitive when they're not at home.
>> > Maybe being smaller kids ahve lower resistance and genallry wetter snd snottier or whatever.
>> >
>> >> > We can typically turn on 48 computers all at once. Most are in banks of 12.
>> >> Try actually plugging them in all at once. As in turning them on together with a power strip or three. The filter caps in the PSUs can trip the earth leakage breakers, because well those caps are supposed to conduct a bit to earth!
>> >
>> > Bad design, to save money.
>> No bad design anywhere. Explain.
>
> Why design something that trip breakers

It needs to be there to filter interference. The breakers are too sensitive. Microwave ovens also leak a lot to earth. I de-earthed mine in case a parrot sat on it and chewed the flex. Now when it's running I can feel electricity if I touch the case.

>> >> >> >> >> >> >> This is because of extra contact resistance causing heat/burning, and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> potentially (ha ha) poor grounding/earthing.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> They are also of very variable quality and can degenerate (contacts wear
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> or become less tight) with use. Many cheap ones are extremely crappy to
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> start off with !
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > yes I've noticed that about some really cheap ones. I have a few where even the rocker switch
>> >> >> >> >> >> > doesn;t always swith off the individual socket like it should, but I only use these ones for chargers
>> >> >> >> >> >> > cerainly wouldn't put a heater, kettle or anyhting about about 1kw on it.
>> >> >> >> >> >> I have an expensive professional strip stolen from a network cabinet and the switch died on that. Ok I was running it at 4kW.....
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Wonder what made it expensive maybe the cable contained thick copper strands rather than some cheap £1 shop
>> >> >> >> >> > that I heard use aluminium.
>> >> >> >> >> Aluminium was only cheaper for a short time in the long distant past, which is why some phone cables are aluminium, which makes them shit for broadband.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > and shit for charging too.
>> >> >> >> I don't charge things off my phoneline.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Most charge their phones via a USB cable, I do.
>> >> >> I've never had a USB cable that refused to charge my phone.
>> >> >
>> >> > I've had a few, it's the only ones the students leave in the lab, they rarley leave anything decent behind.
>> >> They've probably snapped the conductors inside. Who knows what they get up to when drunk.
>> >
>> > Few of our students are drunk, it's not like the olde days of univs..
>> How old are we talking? When me and my sister were at uni everyone got drunk regularly. I'm 46 and she's 41.
>
> 1980s , since the mid 90s we have a lot of Muslim students and few of them drink,

They don't have those sort up here.

> it's also more expensive and students have to take out loans.

Doesn't stop them finding money for drink form somewhere.

> Accommodation is expensive too.

They're free to live at home and sponge off their parents.

> Plus there's lots of things they seem to prefer spending money on.

WTF?

>> >> >> >> > even thin copper isn't best for charging, the longer the cable the more shitty it usually is unless.
>> >> >> >> > Which is why almost any cable as a lenght limit including mains and USB.
>> >> >> >> Never come across a length prpblem apart from when I connected up my own solar panels. Running 12V from the garage roof to the house was annoying, as I would drop a couple of volts easily.
>> >> >> > Happens in boats t a friend had this problem he couldn't start the engine, he thought he could save money by using old mains cable from the battery to the started motor.
>> >> >> I was told I had to run very thick cable for my 6kW car stereo. My friend fitted a huge capacitor in the boot of his car. I just added a second battery in the back.
>> >> >
>> >> > Different usage those capacitors are to support the high current drawn when the bass kicks in.
>> >>
>> >> Same idea, it allows a huge current draw for a short time, saving you on an enormous cable. Mind you they probably wouldn't power a starter for long enough to get the engine fired up.
>> >> >> >> >> If you want to see cheap, do what I did and buy an 18650 battery charger for 99p including postage from China. The plug actually had PLASTIC pins, PAINTED to conduct! It worked though, until the exceedingly thin wire through a bit of tugging through normal use shorted out. When I plugged it in the other day there was a big flash as the very thin wire evaporated. Oh well it charges batteries ok, I just need to put a wire and plug on it.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Wate money on expensive wire, just use the silver foil from kit-kat wrappers.
>> >> >> >> > If it's good enough for junkies, instead of buying expensive bacofoil......
>> >> >> >> It's amazing the shit people try to sell on Ebay, I just bought a phone protective cover advertised as a full cover for both sides made of silicone (soft, absorbs shock). But no, one side was cheap hard plastic, which he just tried to convince me protected the phone better. I guess he doesn't understand crumple zones. Well guess who's paying for the return postage.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I rarely use ebay for this sort of reason, not worth my time pissing about with it. I thinbk this is why the college doesnt; allow us to use ebay
>> >> >> > unless 'we' take responsibility.
>> >> >> I used Ebay all the time at the school, got everything about a third of the price of the "correct" suppliers. I was collecting a couple of grand a month from petty cash.
>> >> >
>> >> > They won't allow us to use petty cash, everything has to have some for of paper or perhaps PDF trail.
>> >> You need to go to a procurement meeting and point out they're buying from the wrong sources. They tend not to like it when you point out they're receiving back handers from the suppliers.
>> >
>> > Well they try to stop it, but when you're boss is the one doing the fiddling.
>> Then point it out to someone higher up, or the police.
>
> The police aren't really interested unless it's really large scale.
> Best to keep quiet about it few are interested it can take years to get anything done, then you find someone leaves
> or gets promoted, or is encourage to take another job.

On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 01:57:38 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, 25 June 2022 at 19:09:17 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Jun 2022 11:36:22 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Wednesday, 22 June 2022 at 19:22:38 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 14 Jun 2022 09:54:39 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Tuesday, 14 June 2022 at 04:53:42 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> On Thu, 09 Jun 2022 14:40:37 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 at 21:27:53 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Mon, 06 Jun 2022 11:23:43 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > A friend of mine said she kept feeling tiggly when in the shower. So I went over and found that the boidger had installed the shower
>> >> >> >> > using twin and earth and that the Live had shorted to the earth making the shower head live, and the flat wasn;t earthed.
>> >> >> >> > She';s lucky she wasn't killed, if it had been earthed the fuse would have blown.
>> >> >> >> All showers and everything in houses are fitted using twin and earth. No idea why, flex is easier to work with and within regulations. And safer too, it's not stiff so doesn't snap at the connection, and you don't have that stupid unsleeved earth.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Some of it's due to how long it will last the type of pastic used for flex insulation persishes quicker than the less flexable used for twin and earth.
>> >> >> I doubt it or it wouldn't pass the regulations.
>> >> >
>> >> > Different regulations for Different uses.
>> >> No, you are allowed to use flex for running a ring main for example.
>> >> >> > TWE also has a higher sustained current rating
>> >> >> Bullshit. Both have varying ratings depending on how thick the conductors are, you buy what's appropriate.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yep that's the idea.
>> >> So your statement is meaningless. TWE does not have a higher current rating. Both types have any current rating.
>> >> >> > and I think the TwE insulation is less likely to melt at the temerature that a flex might start to melt at.
>> >> >> I doubt it. Try leaving the flex for your table lamp against a hot central heating radiator.
>> >> >
>> >> > and what would happen then ?
>> >> > And over how many years.
>> >> Here is TWE being overloaded:
>> >> https://youtu.be/bBYHtBPbBJE?t=363
>> >> Notice he says it's rated to 70C, about the temperature of a central heating radiator, which flex is fine leaning against.
>> >
>> > Yes when it's overrated I doubt flex would be any different.
>> > Shown the importance of having a fuse and maybe a MCB or RCD would trip quicker as the insulation burns through and they conductors short to earth.
>> Any fuse or breaker would trip very quickly with an overload that big, way before the wire. You don't need ELCB for that.
>
> That's not what a ELCB is for. Think our a MCBs localised for each bench.

It's another word for the same thing. Earth Leakage or Residual Current.

>> What annoys me is unfused wires, take for example the monumentally stupid design of a ring main. So if one side comes undone, everything continues to work, but the fuse is no longer suitable for the single wire left.
>>
>> We used to have a brilliant system with the round pin ones, fuse in the box for every outlet.
>>
>> No idea why they got rid of the round pins.
>
> There's info about it it's a history thing just google it.

I got one guy giving an sensible answer - India still use the round ones. Round pins don't have so much contact area with the socket and can overheat.

But it's daft we changed form 15A to 13A. A backwards step.

On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 02:41:57 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, 25 June 2022 at 19:29:13 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Jun 2022 12:35:40 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Thursday, 23 June 2022 at 19:52:18 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 13:53:27 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Wednesday, 15 June 2022 at 09:19:30 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, 13 Jun 2022 13:10:25 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Saturday, 11 June 2022 at 01:59:32 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Thu, 09 Jun 2022 13:38:40 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > On Tuesday, 7 June 2022 at 19:42:10 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 06 Jun 2022 10:49:44 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 at 04:29:38 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 16 May 2022 14:49:43 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > On Friday, 13 May 2022 at 02:05:22 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 05 May 2022 14:01:01 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Thursday, 5 May 2022 at 12:24:55 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 04 May 2022 23:16:42 +0100, David Brooks <D...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > You really are nuts!
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What do you use your handbrake for? It really does serve no purpose.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I thought it's main use was for when you park on a hill.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> It would have to be a fucking steep hill,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > we even have some of those in London, thought you'd have some in scotland too.
>> >> >> >> >> >> Not often I park on them. Can always turn the wheel to the kerb, instead of relying on a brake which is operated by something very similar to a bicycle brake cable!
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Seems to work for most people I didn;t think turning the steering wheel would stop a car moving I thought that was how you made it go
>> >> >> >> >> > in a particular directionof choice.
>> >> >> >> >> It stops it when the wheels rest against the kerb obviously, everyone knows that.
>> >> >> >> > I guess all the roads you stop on have kerbs, even I;'ve had to stop on a hill where there was no kerb at that's in London.
>> >> >> >> If there's no kerb, there's usually something uneven about it. Anyway you only need that on a steep hill. Putting it in gear should normally be enough.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Strange thatcars still have handbrakes if they are not needed.
>> >> >> They are if you live in a steep area, or are too thick to be able to do a hill start with the footbrake.
>> >> >
>> >> > I thought cars could be used for traveling around and even visiting places you don't live.
>> >> > Been strange to see a car without a handbrake and there's a warning sticker saying not to be driven to places where you don't live or where there are steep hills.
>> >> > I know F1 cars dont; have them but it;s not exactly a large market for such cars.
>> >> It needs to be a very steep hill to need the handbrake. I've only ever encountered two.
>> >
>> > I've encountered more than that on driving lessons
>> Are you younger than I thought? I thought you were older than me.
>
> Yep I am older than you.

When you spoke of driving lessons I thought you'd just had some.

>> > in chingford mount with a bus lane on the left
>> > there was no kerb, waiting for the lights and the large lorry trying to turn.
>> > If handbrakes weren't useful they wouldn;t waste money having them.
>> They're for learner drivers. I hill start with the footbrake.
>
> doesn't mean it the best way though.

Of course it is, the footbrake is more powerful and more accurate. And it leaves your hands free for indicating, steering, etc.

>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I just use the gears or turn the wheels into the kerb. I did once park on a steep hill without turning the wheels to the kerb. A passerby shouted to me "your car is dancing!" It was trying to start the engine and jumping back a few inches at a time in gear.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > I wonder how Electric cars get around this, as I didn;t think they had gears in the same way.
>> >> >> >> >> >> Shorted motor? Or the same as an automatic petrol car, a bolt through the gearbox.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > why would an electric car have a gear box ?
>> >> >> >> >> It could go through something else. And sports one sometimes do, but usually not as it's hard to make one that can take that much power.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > That's not what they are for.
>> >> >> >> Not what what are for? Gearboxes or stopping pins?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Hand brakes aren't for power stopping.
>> >> >> WTf do you mean "power" stopping. I'm talking about preventing movement when parked.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes that was what they are for but yuo seem to think they aren;t needed beacuse you can use steering of just not stoping on slopes is the answer
>> >> If it's a town road with a kerb, then yes you can use the kerb like a chock.
>> >> >> > Youy don;t use the handbrake for an emergency stop.
>> >> >> You do when the footbrake fails. I had a car for 6 months with zero footbrakes, I used gears and the handbrake to come to a stop.
>> >> >
>> >> > Lucky they yuo had a handbrake in yuor world you say they aren;t needed so how would you have stopped the car ?
>> >> I would have fixed one of foot/handbrake.
>> >
>> > you said you had that situation for 6 months how long does it take to fix a handbrake ?
>> It wasn't broken, the footbrake was broken.
>
> So you used the handbrake lucky had one.

It's unusual for one to work. Most cars when I take them for an MOT they don't work at all, even though I never operate them. Had the same thing with a foglight bulb.

>> >> > Oh yes using stearing to the kerb of driving up steep hills to slow down.
>> >> Why would I need to slow down when going uphill?
>> >
>> > when approaching lights, changing to red when the bus stops.
>> Gears.
>
> are for slowing down or speeding up

It's enough to slow down, gravity will do the stopping part if going uphill.

I once tried selecting 1st gear in my Golf auto at 70mph. It's surprising how quickly it slows down. It sensibly changed down as soon as possible. I watched it hitting the red line precisely with each gear.

>> >> > You sound like something from a Mr Bean sketch.
>> >> I must give you a lift sometime, you'll be grabbing things for dear life. I once gave a lift to three colleagues. The one in the front seat found it amusing when I went more than double the speed limit over speedbumps, causing the women in the back to bash their heads off the roof.
>> >
>> > Only been in a speeding car twice once a cab at 3am. about 60 or a 30 road. The police stopped him, but I surprised when they just said oh it's a BMW and then said just don;t do it again and that was it.
>> They let him off because it was a BMW?
>
> That's what it sounded like they had trouble catching up catching up, must have been quite a fast acceleration
> as it took them a while, he stopped apologised, said he was a cab and driving up home.
> The road was pretty empty at that time. He wasn't a boy racer I think they could tell.

>> > The last one I went to was a couple of weeks ago .
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slvwi-4qkG4
>> > they used one of my videos I took at 1:47
>> What a load of shite, just people yelling and singing without a tune.
>
> I din;t like most of it. arrived about 9pm and left just before 2am. The band I filmed were the last on it that room there were 3 separate areas yuo could wander round. The bands stopped at 11pm and then it was club night.

Looked like Karaoke to me.

>> >> > Have a nice cup of tea and an iced bun and share a bag or werthers originals.
>> >> > Wow what a life.
>> >> I'm the exact opposite of that.
>> >
>> > Not sure what that means
>> The things you listed are the last thing I enjoy doing.
>
> I can do both but teh clubs are a good place to meet people and catch up with friends.
> I've been going to the gig one since 1988 used to go every saturday until about 2001
> when the council made them have a drink licence before then you could take your own drink in,
> was a cheap night especially as my flatmate worked in the cloakroom so I got free entry most weeks.
> closed at 7:30am sunday morning.

I went to a race where they had drinks and didn't allow your own. We rolled loads of bottles under the edge of the tent earlier on.

>> > a normal photo printer and a 3D printer before then end of the summer.
>> I thought about a 3D printer, but realised I wouldn't use it that much. Just now and then to make a replacement part for something. If I really need that, people on Ebay will do it for you for a tenner.
>
> I feel I need a new toy or two , I can use the one at work but they aren't always available for private jobs.

FFS you work there you should have perks.

>> >> And don't you ever sell anything?
>> >
>> > Rarely and if I do it's mostly to friends , never found it worth the effort of making a decent post and taking things to the PO.
>> Royal Mail collect for 60p now.
>
> I still have to be home though.

No, you leave it somewhere and note that on the order.

>> >> >> > Most thefts seems to be amazon boxes left outside
>> >> >> Why do Amazon do that? Hermes do too,
>> >> >
>> >> > Because the people aren't in seems a reasonable reason.
>> >> One left a package the other day, he knocked then placed it on the doorstep. Ok, my car was in the driveway, but is that a guarantee I'm in?
>> >
>> > That is annoying I take a day off or have it delivered to work.
>> Yes but if they don't say what day or time.
>
> Most do, if they use a good carrier.
> even B&Q tell yuo whether they'll arrive am or PM then phone/txt 30mins before delivery.
> Amazon I track.

You can't always tell what courier will be used. I bought something from Dabs Direct 20 years ago and they used the now bankrupt Amtrak. They left a card at my house while I was at work, and the number to phone was busy every time I tried. Then I got another card, and another, then they said I had to go to the depot, 30 miles away. I did and couldn't find it. So I told Dabs to use a better courier or I'd change supplier.

>> > Have you thought about a security box and padlock.
>> There is a shed and CCTV. If the idiots won't put it in the shed, I doubt they'd put it in a box.
>> >> And why the fuck can't they use the doorbell?! A banging noise could be anything.
>> >
>> > I haven't got a doorbell.
>> Chav.
>
> Why do I need a doorbell I can hear them knock.

A knocking noise can be anything. Also consider a postman knocking on 500 doors a day and the state of his knuckles.

>> > I'm waiting for a B&Q delivery now, some decking boards at home.
>> I get that sort of stuff in my car. Came home with several 5 metres joists on the roof once. And another time an entire large flatpacked shed. Probably illegal to do that, it was substantially larger than the car.
>
> I don't have or need a car.

You don't know the freedom you're missing.

>> >> >> I found a parcel at my front door that had been in the rain for hours.
>> >> >
>> >> > why not make a box leave it with an unlocked padlock and tell anyone to leave the pacels in and lock it.
>> >> > Seems a simple solution to me.
>> >> I have a shed with CCTV. And a notice saying to put things in it. Half of them can't be arsed. They want to do their round as fast as possible.
>> >
>> > That's bad I've not had any problems with amazon but then again don;t have much delivered to home unless it's a large thing.
>> I don't think it's any one courier in particular, it just depends on the driver.
>
> Hermes are pretty bad from what I've heard.

They've got better here since they got new staff. They are the cheapest so they will cut corners.

>> >> >> >> >> Stealing VW badges used to be the in thing.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> Seems a newspaper boy was prosecuted for claiming he couldn't go
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> over
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> 16mph on his bicycle!
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Haha! :-D
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> I've done 39mph on my mountain bike, but this was using God's force,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> gravity.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> OY! I saw that! You capitalised god! You edited MY sentence!
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Just checking to see if you are paying attention to detail! :-D
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I wasn't, but my subconscious notices everything.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > You are nearly as bright as me!
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [titter] So what bright things have you done in your life?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > and was she a natural blonde or fake blonde
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Easy to spot, they're too thick to dye their eyebrows.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Not all, some dye
>> >> >> >> >> >> Never seen that.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > some shave and use eyebrow pencil.
>> >> >> >> >> >> Drawn on eyebrows look ridiculous.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Note when it;s done with style.
>> >> >> >> >> No, because they never look 3D like hairs.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > They aren't meant to, I'm thinking egyptian style
>> >> >> >> Religious claptrap.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > what has religion got to do with it ?
>> >> >> That's why they did it in Egypt.
>> >> >
>> >> > So, it;s not done today for that reason.
>> >> > People men and women used to wear makeup and perfumes so they couldn't smell
>> >> > the stench of the cities or see the sores on their person.
>> >> So not needed nowadays.
>> >
>> > I do prefer certain styles , I guess everyone does.
>> I prefer the natural style.
>
> Very rare most wear makup, I don;t like tans even natural tans, I don't like the orange look either.

I hate no tan - looks sickly and ill.

>> >> >> >> >> >> > I've know some to wear coloured cotact
>> >> >> >> >> >> > lenes, one in particular has green cats eye contacts.
>> >> >> >> >> >> Those can be nice. Still don't look quite right though.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> They look fucking stupid. It's like painting your car a different colour and forgetting one door.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > depends on the effect you want I guess.
>> >> >> >> >> >> Avoiding looking like a fake would be a desire surely?
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Fake what exactly, I prefer the more creative types when it comes to looks.
>> >> >> >> >> I prefer someone who's naturally good looking without having to add it.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Mmmmm Miley Cyrus!
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > She wears quite a bit of makeup and has lots of tattoes that's hardly natrual.
>> >> >> >> She'd look amazing without any of that.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So why does she do it.
>> >> >> Because she's an idiot.
>> >> >
>> >> > So you find iodiots attractive.
>> >> Intelligence does not change someone's looks. Anyway she has a fucking good voice.
>> >
>> > I'm not saying I'd kick her out of my kitchen ;-)
>> How about the bedroom?
>
> first things first ;-)

On Sunday, 26 June 2022 at 17:52:57 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> > Not worth the effort and I doubt that would happen if we bought 50, which was the last large purchases of 5Amp PSU's
> >> > China but from a reputable source.
> >> You buy a couple from 25 different sellers.
> >
> > We can;t do that we have to go through a process with finance and get approvals and quotes for some things.
> So did I, until I kicked up a fuss and quoted several instances where I could save up to two thirds on the price.

We've rarely found that when searching for the cheapest price.

> > we bought 50 of these Bench Top Linear Power Supply, 0-30V 5A with Twin Outputs.
> These? Did you drop a link?

was from onecall but the site was down for maintenance, seemed more expensive on ebay when we looked and only had a couple and weighing about 5-6KG each P&P was expensive .

> >> >> > we're having problems getting raspberry Pi 4s at the moment.
> >> >> Problems getting them at all, or problems getting them at a reasonable price?
> >> >
> >> > Problems getting them, they filter though 1 per customer from some suppliers.
> >>
> >> Then get each member of staff or student to buy one each.
> >
> > yuo can;t do that as it's open to fiddling and not very efficient.
> If it's the only way to get them....

If they really need them but they don't normally need the latest tech for an undergrad project even masters and MSc don't need them for a project.
One student asked us to buy a 5KV pulse generator and some high octane fuel we sent him back to his supervisor
for funding to get a research grant , never heard from him again.

> >> Or use Ebay, I can see 40 people selling those from £60 to £100. And more at a higher price.
> >
> > we get them for £60 with a free PSU ,card reader USB lead SD card as a kit .
> > we wanted 3 rapid do them for £62 when they are ins stock, the students said they wanted the pi 4 bit when we told the lecturer what the students wanted he said don't bother they can use pi 3s for what they are doing and I have 4 in my office they can have. So that's what happened.

We got 1 the other 2 students are using Pi3s . It's supposed to be a group project anyway so why they need 3 sets
we don't know. They probably all want to work from home.

> > When they come in stock we'll buy a couple until then students have to learn what is available and in stock.
> The students should be learning to shop around.

Yep, if they tell us where to get them and they are a UK supplier we get them.
They wanted them from RS who didn't have any and the due date was mid 2023 .

> >> >> > Most of the stuff we buy isn't cheaper on ebay anyway.
> >> >> Some stuff is, some stuff isn't. I don't understand some sellers, when you subtract what they must pay for postage and Ebay fees, they end up with 50p. So unless they're stealing the goods, that's not a profit.
> >> >
> >> > could be for currency.
> >> Huh?
> >
> > Money laundering .
> I don't know how that works.

Me neither. But I think when you send them the money they then order from a supplier in their currency
so they get £ and spend rupees or yen or whatever.

> > If something is cheaper on ebay we have used it in the past we bought 100 RGB LEDs
> > cheap and easy to test if woiking the 10% or so they didn't you can just throw away.
> Ah so you can use Ebay. You were objecting to it earlier.

The college doesn't like it especially for high value items .
We're allowed about £2k per month and anything over £500 has to be ordered by finance
on an account which I think they pay 1-3 months later. Most ebayers want the money up front I don't blame them.

> > Just bought 300 MES 10 bulb holder £1.79 each the suppliers on ebay were charging £4-£6.
> > We get university discounts from out suppliers works out about 10-20% free P&P and we know they'kk arrive in a couple of days at most.
> I used to get projector bulbs for less than what another supplier claimed was the manufacturer's price. I guess the company we used was getting a subsidy.

> >> >> But he's a fat fuck.
> >> >
> >> > and that's being polite about him
> >> His policies are wonderful.
> >
> > He doesn't have any other than to make himself rich.
> He's far right, which I like.

He's a con artist.

> > I wonder if he'll be able to run for office next year or will he end up on prison.
> > How can anyone lose money running a casino .
> > An airline that doesn;t fly, and as for trump university.
> Americans always try to get their politicians in prison. They vote someone in then get upset about it, it's pathetic.

Then they vote them out .

> >> >> > Strange he needed so many doctors and drugs to cure him from a fake disease.
> >> >> It doesn't kill fit people.
> >> >
> >> > It can and has .
> >> Not often. And you never know when someone has a hidden defect.
> >
> > Often enough
> Those people need to be removed from the gene pool.
> >> >> How come this guy, who has a heart condition, survived it twice?
> >> >> https://www.patreon.com/krzyszp
> >> >> >> It only kills the weak.
> >> >> > Only the weak minded think that.
> >> >> Mind and body are one and the same.
> >> >
> >> > Like stephen hawking you mean .
> >> That's hardly the norm.
> >
> > He was lucky he was found to be intelligent before he became ill.
> He didn't live as good a life as you think. His relatives didn't take care of him.

It shouldn't be up to them to look after them that's going back 100s of years .
> >> >> > https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/17149942/anti-vax-kickboxing-champ-frederic-sinistra-dead-covid/
> >> >>
> >> >> Steroids perhaps?
> >> >> > But it's not just the deaths it's the overall effect.
> >> >> The overall effect is stupid governments imposing lockdowns and fucking everything up.
> >> >>
> >> >> > I've notice that I haven't even had a cold of any sort since wearing a mask and hand sanatising.
> >> >> > I usually get at least 3 a year and one thatv I need to take time off from work.
> >> >> I avoided colds very easily. See when you go through a double door? Always use the one the person in front didn't.
> >> >
> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD_pWvfDiiE
> >> >
> >> > my office is at about 1:35
> >> >
> >> > and with 600 students in the lab how do you tell which handle a particual students used ?
> >> > and the 100s of leads and equipment in the lab, the knobs buttons etc...
> >> I was thinking more of people going along corridors.
> >
> > Yes and cafe's bar, lectures, .
> I was thinking of the corridors. In busy areas you're fucked.

Yeah to many students , but loks good for admin getting £9k from £600 students.
> >> >> Also ice baths prevent colds.
> >> >
> >> > We don't have them in the lab, or on public transport.
> >> You use one at home or in a gym.
> >
> > Why did they close the gyms then oh yeah all that putting and blowing .
> They closed stuff because they're stupid.

gyms are crowded places .

> > I had to stop a couple of students doing a project where they were measuring heart rates and stuff jumping about
> > sharing heart rate sensors pulse sensors . If they want to do that go outside not in a lab.
> What was your objection?

Spearding infection one came in coughing and splutters didn't even have a mask on, the next day he asked for his stuff in the project cupboard to be posted to him as he'd tested positive. He lives opposite the college in the student accommodation.
Apparent;y the place was riddled with positive cases.

On Monday, 27 June 2022 at 17:58:43 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 02:41:57 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >
> > Yep I am older than you.
> When you spoke of driving lessons I thought you'd just had some.
No that was mid 1980s.

> >> > in chingford mount with a bus lane on the left
> >> > there was no kerb, waiting for the lights and the large lorry trying to turn.
> >> > If handbrakes weren't useful they wouldn;t waste money having them.
> >> They're for learner drivers. I hill start with the footbrake.
> >
> > doesn't mean it the best way though.
> Of course it is, the footbrake is more powerful and more accurate. And it leaves your hands free for indicating, steering, etc.

Didn't think you needed to do any of those things when parked or having stopped.

> >> > when approaching lights, changing to red when the bus stops.
> >> Gears.
> >
> > are for slowing down or speeding up
> It's enough to slow down, gravity will do the stopping part if going uphill.

and downhill ?

>
> I once tried selecting 1st gear in my Golf auto at 70mph. It's surprising how quickly it slows down. It sensibly changed down as soon as possible. I watched it hitting the red line precisely with each gear.
> >> >> > You sound like something from a Mr Bean sketch.
> >> >> I must give you a lift sometime, you'll be grabbing things for dear life. I once gave a lift to three colleagues. The one in the front seat found it amusing when I went more than double the speed limit over speedbumps, causing the women in the back to bash their heads off the roof.
> >> >
> >> > Only been in a speeding car twice once a cab at 3am. about 60 or a 30 road. The police stopped him, but I surprised when they just said oh it's a BMW and then said just don;t do it again and that was it.
> >> They let him off because it was a BMW?
> >
> > That's what it sounded like they had trouble catching up catching up, must have been quite a fast acceleration
> > as it took them a while, he stopped apologised, said he was a cab and driving up home.
> > The road was pretty empty at that time. He wasn't a boy racer I think they could tell.
> Cabs have an unwritten rule with the police? Maybe there's a bribe.

Didn't see any money handed over, and I'm guessing he was a licensed cab.

>
> Didn't they notice he was a cab? The sign on the roof is as giveaway.

No it;'s wasn't a black cab as such but it was black no idea of the model though.

> >> That's not what happened when I was going a tonne on the motorway and a BMW overtook me about 130.
> >> > Thought I might have to walk a mile+ home.
> >> The police should have had to give you a lift.
> >> > Another time in cornwall which was more scary as it was a single road with hedges on either side
> >> > but he was a local so I guess he knew the chances of an oncoming vehicle was low.
> >> > But in london your lucky if you can get to 30MPH on most roads
> >> I dare you to get a lift off me, I'll scare you shitless. If the tyres don't squeal, you didn't go round the corner fast enough.
> >
> > Maybe you can do that where you live but around here it;s just not possible to much traffic.
> Go round them.

No where to go after that. Yet another car in front, maybe you've never driven in london.

>
> I once got a long distance bus into London. It was amazing how fast he went. Maybe everyone got out of the way.
Into London is not exactly London.
I was on a bus on mile end road and heard this loud car noise to was 3 Lamborghini think it they were aventors, a white yellow and a blue one revving in the queue of traffic the bus just went past them in it's bus lane.

> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Or tan attempt to make yuor car difficult to be stolen or moved
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > without the drivers or owners permission.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Handbrakes are very weak, that wouldn't stop anyone. You just put the car onto a tow truck anyway.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Little chance of getting a tow truck for such a thing near me, cars parked to close together.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> You live in a city? Why?
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Same reason most people do, can't really imagine living out in the sticks what do people do all day and night.
> >> >> >> >> >> Drove 10 miles to what you do. Or not do nightclubs that are for teenagers.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > You mean for those that are to old to live.
> >> >> >> >> Are you a teenager?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > No, do you think only teenages go to nightclubs.
> >> >> >> Yes, and those who never grew up. Which are you?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Both depending how I feel.
> >> >> > I'm not ready for teh local retirement home, not even ready to book my place as you obviously are.
> >> >> I can be a childish arsehole too, but not with social shit like nightclubs.
> >> >
> >> > I prefer them to pubs, but never been tempted by festivals like Glastonbury (outdoor that is)
> >> That sounds fun with all the mud and scantily clad girls.
> >
> > I'm not a fan of rain mud etc.. or the toilets or camping.
> A sissy then.

I prefer my whisky neat no rainwater, mud or any other fluid
I only use coke as a mixer if drinking JD.

On Monday, 27 June 2022 at 17:58:53 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> > The last one I went to was a couple of weeks ago .
> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slvwi-4qkG4
> >> > they used one of my videos I took at 1:47
> >> What a load of shite, just people yelling and singing without a tune.
> >
> > I din;t like most of it. arrived about 9pm and left just before 2am. The band I filmed were the last on it that room there were 3 separate areas yuo could wander round. The bands stopped at 11pm and then it was club night..
> Looked like Karaoke to me.

Nah that's one think I don't like in a night out.

> >> >> > Have a nice cup of tea and an iced bun and share a bag or werthers originals.
> >> >> > Wow what a life.
> >> >> I'm the exact opposite of that.
> >> >
> >> > Not sure what that means
> >> The things you listed are the last thing I enjoy doing.
> >
> > I can do both but teh clubs are a good place to meet people and catch up with friends.
> > I've been going to the gig one since 1988 used to go every saturday until about 2001
> > when the council made them have a drink licence before then you could take your own drink in,
> > was a cheap night especially as my flatmate worked in the cloakroom so I got free entry most weeks.
> > closed at 7:30am sunday morning.
> I went to a race where they had drinks and didn't allow your own. We rolled loads of bottles under the edge of the tent earlier on.

They frisk you now at the club check bags, I used to go in with 1/2 bottle of whisky and a bottle of cocktail I mixed.
Some went in with carrier bags of 8 or more cans. I can;t drink a lot of liquid tend to feel sick to quick.
I've learnt to pass myself with whisky .

> >> > a normal photo printer and a 3D printer before then end of the summer.
> >> I thought about a 3D printer, but realised I wouldn't use it that much.. Just now and then to make a replacement part for something. If I really need that, people on Ebay will do it for you for a tenner.
> >
> > I feel I need a new toy or two , I can use the one at work but they aren't always available for private jobs.
> FFS you work there you should have perks.

I can use it but with perhaps 100 students wanting to use the 2 we have (ultimaker 2+) they are in use most of the day
most prints take at least 4 hours. So during term time it;'s in almost constant use.

I intend to use the 3D scanner we bought the cheaper one for the lab £2k , the downstairs workshop is buying one for ~£55k
We're buying a laser cutter LPTK PCB rig for the antenna lab that's close to £250K, mostly for research jobs.

> >> >> And don't you ever sell anything?
> >> >
> >> > Rarely and if I do it's mostly to friends , never found it worth the effort of making a decent post and taking things to the PO.
> >> Royal Mail collect for 60p now.
> >
> > I still have to be home though.
> No, you leave it somewhere and note that on the order.

I haven;t anything that's worth the effort to sell.
I have a Mac G4 tower I bought in ~1999, they are going on ebay for £30-50 not worth the effort.
Know anyone that wants to buy a 4x CD RW SCSI, a SCSI flatbed scanner , a G3 tower , Macplus, mac SE/30, LC475. 2 zip drives. I can;t be bothered making sure they all work , then taking photos etc...

> >> >> >> > Most thefts seems to be amazon boxes left outside
> >> >> >> Why do Amazon do that? Hermes do too,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Because the people aren't in seems a reasonable reason.
> >> >> One left a package the other day, he knocked then placed it on the doorstep. Ok, my car was in the driveway, but is that a guarantee I'm in?
> >> >
> >> > That is annoying I take a day off or have it delivered to work.
> >> Yes but if they don't say what day or time.
> >
> > Most do, if they use a good carrier.
> > even B&Q tell yuo whether they'll arrive am or PM then phone/txt 30mins before delivery.
> > Amazon I track.
> You can't always tell what courier will be used.

The places I use do.
B&Q lorry, argos lorry,

>I bought something from Dabs Direct 20 years ago and they used the now bankrupt Amtrak. They left a card at my house while I was at work, and the number to phone was busy every time I tried. Then I got another card, and another, then they said I had to go to the depot, 30 miles away. I did and couldn't find it. So I told Dabs to use a better courier or I'd change supplier..

Haven't used dabs in ages (this millennium) I used to buy Apple stuff from them and most computing stuff.

> >> > Have you thought about a security box and padlock.
> >> There is a shed and CCTV. If the idiots won't put it in the shed, I doubt they'd put it in a box.
> >> >> And why the fuck can't they use the doorbell?! A banging noise could be anything.
> >> >
> >> > I haven't got a doorbell.
> >> Chav.
> >
> > Why do I need a doorbell I can hear them knock.
> A knocking noise can be anything. Also consider a postman knocking on 500 doors a day and the state of his knuckles.

Not my problem the two rolls of copper tape went through the letter box.And anything that won;t I get sent to work
if it;s practical carrying it home.
> >> > I'm waiting for a B&Q delivery now, some decking boards at home.
> >> I get that sort of stuff in my car. Came home with several 5 metres joists on the roof once. And another time an entire large flatpacked shed. Probably illegal to do that, it was substantially larger than the car.
> >
> > I don't have or need a car.
> You don't know the freedom you're missing.
I'm free of worry of insurance, taxes and everything else that comes with a car.
When I go to a club as long as I can walk I can hail a cab or book one.
The night bus is every 15mins too.

I tried driving hated it well in london anyway.

> >> > I do prefer certain styles , I guess everyone does.
> >> I prefer the natural style.
> >
> > Very rare most wear makup, I don;t like tans even natural tans, I don't like the orange look either.
> I hate no tan - looks sickly and ill.

I quite like that look.

> >> > I'm not saying I'd kick her out of my kitchen ;-)
> >> How about the bedroom?
> >
> > first things first ;-)
> Indeed, can't do that on an empty stomach.

Yep,

> >> > Just not my preferred type.
> >> Who is your ideal woman?
> >
> > I don;t really have one in particular, that's the thing about clubs.
> You must have some kind of preference.

well yes but not sure how to describe it.
Alternative, Goth, cyber, punk,
I have a few pictures of ex girl friends but only one that is online as she asked me to take photos of her band
as she played bass.
Another well her sister is shown in a video they looked similar but the one I was with had red hair and the one in the yuotube video is a blonde both Glaswegian anyone from outside of london is foreign to me ;-)
I seem to attract foreign girls , even went to Sweden once to visit one.

One in particular , I was outside a pub as it was crowded and hot in there a girl came up to me and stated chatting to me
said she was half German, half African but came from outer space.
she asked me what I was drinking I said snakebite and black, she asked me if I wanted go to a recording studio with her.
I asked will there be any drink there, she said yes of course, I said I should be meeting my girl friend at midnight
at a club, she said she's going there too and she'd pay for the cab there and back . So I agreed, when we got there
the roundhouse chalk farm, she introduced me to the staff as her german cousin as they didn't like strangers visiting.
She disappeared for about 10mins and came back and handed me a carton of F*&^%$ orange juice, I was well gutted.
Spent about 30mins in the studio leaving me with the orange juice !
Then she phoned her ~3 year old (I think) daughter in germany then we left for the club about 12:15 after she kept the black cab waiting for 20mins then insisted he played a couple of her tracks she has with her.
She asked me which version I preferred of the lords prayer, the german or english version I said the german as I didn;t know what the words were. Never went out with her as such she seemed to love herself more than anyone else could and that puts me off anyone.
But she seemed a fun person to be around quite nice in an extrovert way. I don't think she fancied me but she did say I had beautiful eyes, maybe she likes the bloodshot look who knows.
Never saw her after we went our separate ways in the club, well not until 4 years later when my friends band were supporting her I think at the rainbow in camden .
Apart from the orange juice I quite enjoyed the experience.

On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 01:44:41 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, 26 June 2022 at 17:52:57 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> > Not worth the effort and I doubt that would happen if we bought 50, which was the last large purchases of 5Amp PSU's
>> >> > China but from a reputable source.
>> >> You buy a couple from 25 different sellers.
>> >
>> > We can;t do that we have to go through a process with finance and get approvals and quotes for some things.
>> So did I, until I kicked up a fuss and quoted several instances where I could save up to two thirds on the price.
>
> We've rarely found that when searching for the cheapest price.

The "deals" with suppliers we had were ridiculous.

>> > we bought 50 of these Bench Top Linear Power Supply, 0-30V 5A with Twin Outputs.
>> These? Did you drop a link?
>
> was from onecall but the site was down for maintenance, seemed more expensive on ebay when we looked and only had a couple and weighing about 5-6KG each P&P was expensive .

Occasionally it's cheaper elsewhere, but I always start with Ebay, and if the price looks too much I have a search elsewhere. And absolutely never used overpriced Amazon. That's just Ebay with less choices and more cost.

>> >> >> > we're having problems getting raspberry Pi 4s at the moment.
>> >> >> Problems getting them at all, or problems getting them at a reasonable price?
>> >> >
>> >> > Problems getting them, they filter though 1 per customer from some suppliers.
>> >>
>> >> Then get each member of staff or student to buy one each.
>> >
>> > yuo can;t do that as it's open to fiddling and not very efficient.
>> If it's the only way to get them....
>
> If they really need them but they don't normally need the latest tech for an undergrad project even masters and MSc don't need them for a project.
> One student asked us to buy a 5KV pulse generator and some high octane fuel we sent him back to his supervisor
> for funding to get a research grant , never heard from him again.

That sounds like an interesting project! What was he aiming to do?

>> >> >> > Most of the stuff we buy isn't cheaper on ebay anyway.
>> >> >> Some stuff is, some stuff isn't. I don't understand some sellers, when you subtract what they must pay for postage and Ebay fees, they end up with 50p. So unless they're stealing the goods, that's not a profit.
>> >> >
>> >> > could be for currency.
>> >> Huh?
>> >
>> > Money laundering .
>> I don't know how that works.
>
> Me neither. But I think when you send them the money they then order from a supplier in their currency
> so they get £ and spend rupees or yen or whatever.

Which must mean the conversion rate available in banks is wrong.

And it's hardly laundering, I thought that was someone disposing of some stolen money by buying and selling things with it.

>> > If something is cheaper on ebay we have used it in the past we bought 100 RGB LEDs
>> > cheap and easy to test if woiking the 10% or so they didn't you can just throw away.
>> Ah so you can use Ebay. You were objecting to it earlier.
>
> The college doesn't like it especially for high value items .
> We're allowed about £2k per month and anything over £500 has to be ordered by finance
> on an account which I think they pay 1-3 months later. Most ebayers want the money up front I don't blame them.

Finance departments are a waste of fucking space. You're the one that knows what you need and where the best place to get it is, not them.

>> >> >> But he's a fat fuck.
>> >> >
>> >> > and that's being polite about him
>> >> His policies are wonderful.
>> >
>> > He doesn't have any other than to make himself rich.
>> He's far right, which I like.
>
> He's a con artist.

Don't care, I'm fed up of left wingers. I see trader4 in alt.home.repair is now moaning about Biden after he used to moan about Trump....

>> > I wonder if he'll be able to run for office next year or will he end up on prison.
>> > How can anyone lose money running a casino .
>> > An airline that doesn;t fly, and as for trump university.
>> Americans always try to get their politicians in prison. They vote someone in then get upset about it, it's pathetic.
>
> Then they vote them out .

That doesn't seem enough for the childish suing culture.

>> >> >> > Strange he needed so many doctors and drugs to cure him from a fake disease.
>> >> >> It doesn't kill fit people.
>> >> >
>> >> > It can and has .
>> >> Not often. And you never know when someone has a hidden defect.
>> >
>> > Often enough
>> Those people need to be removed from the gene pool.
>> >> >> How come this guy, who has a heart condition, survived it twice?
>> >> >> https://www.patreon.com/krzyszp
>> >> >> >> It only kills the weak.
>> >> >> > Only the weak minded think that.
>> >> >> Mind and body are one and the same.
>> >> >
>> >> > Like stephen hawking you mean .
>> >> That's hardly the norm.
>> >
>> > He was lucky he was found to be intelligent before he became ill.
>> He didn't live as good a life as you think. His relatives didn't take care of him.
>
> It shouldn't be up to them to look after them that's going back 100s of years .

So you wouldn't look after your ill relative?

>> >> >> Also ice baths prevent colds.
>> >> >
>> >> > We don't have them in the lab, or on public transport.
>> >> You use one at home or in a gym.
>> >
>> > Why did they close the gyms then oh yeah all that putting and blowing .
>> They closed stuff because they're stupid.
>
> gyms are crowded places .

And nobody was forcing anyone to go.

>> > I had to stop a couple of students doing a project where they were measuring heart rates and stuff jumping about
>> > sharing heart rate sensors pulse sensors . If they want to do that go outside not in a lab.
>> What was your objection?
>
> Spearding infection one came in coughing and splutters didn't even have a mask on, the next day he asked for his stuff in the project cupboard to be posted to him as he'd tested positive. He lives opposite the college in the student accommodation.
> Apparent;y the place was riddled with positive cases.

So what? It's just a bad cold.

On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 02:02:19 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, 27 June 2022 at 17:58:43 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 02:41:57 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >> > in chingford mount with a bus lane on the left
>> >> > there was no kerb, waiting for the lights and the large lorry trying to turn.
>> >> > If handbrakes weren't useful they wouldn;t waste money having them.
>> >> They're for learner drivers. I hill start with the footbrake.
>> >
>> > doesn't mean it the best way though.
>> Of course it is, the footbrake is more powerful and more accurate. And it leaves your hands free for indicating, steering, etc.
>
> Didn't think you needed to do any of those things when parked or having stopped.

If you're stopped waiting at a junction, you should indicate.

>> >> > when approaching lights, changing to red when the bus stops.
>> >> Gears.
>> >
>> > are for slowing down or speeding up
>> It's enough to slow down, gravity will do the stopping part if going uphill.
>
> and downhill ?

Gears are often used to limit speed on steep downhills.

>> I once tried selecting 1st gear in my Golf auto at 70mph. It's surprising how quickly it slows down. It sensibly changed down as soon as possible. I watched it hitting the red line precisely with each gear.
>> >> >> > You sound like something from a Mr Bean sketch.
>> >> >> I must give you a lift sometime, you'll be grabbing things for dear life. I once gave a lift to three colleagues. The one in the front seat found it amusing when I went more than double the speed limit over speedbumps, causing the women in the back to bash their heads off the roof.
>> >> >
>> >> > Only been in a speeding car twice once a cab at 3am. about 60 or a 30 road. The police stopped him, but I surprised when they just said oh it's a BMW and then said just don;t do it again and that was it.
>> >> They let him off because it was a BMW?
>> >
>> > That's what it sounded like they had trouble catching up catching up, must have been quite a fast acceleration
>> > as it took them a while, he stopped apologised, said he was a cab and driving up home.
>> > The road was pretty empty at that time. He wasn't a boy racer I think they could tell.
>> Cabs have an unwritten rule with the police? Maybe there's a bribe.
>
> Didn't see any money handed over, and I'm guessing he was a licensed cab.

Probably a pre-arranged agreement.

>> Didn't they notice he was a cab? The sign on the roof is as giveaway.
>
> No it;'s wasn't a black cab as such but it was black no idea of the model though.

They all say taxi on them though.

>> >> That's not what happened when I was going a tonne on the motorway and a BMW overtook me about 130.
>> >> > Thought I might have to walk a mile+ home.
>> >> The police should have had to give you a lift.
>> >> > Another time in cornwall which was more scary as it was a single road with hedges on either side
>> >> > but he was a local so I guess he knew the chances of an oncoming vehicle was low.
>> >> > But in london your lucky if you can get to 30MPH on most roads
>> >> I dare you to get a lift off me, I'll scare you shitless. If the tyres don't squeal, you didn't go round the corner fast enough.
>> >
>> > Maybe you can do that where you live but around here it;s just not possible to much traffic.
>> Go round them.
>
> No where to go after that. Yet another car in front, maybe you've never driven in london.

Yes, just avoid the congested bits and the congested times.

>> I once got a long distance bus into London. It was amazing how fast he went. Maybe everyone got out of the way.
> Into London is not exactly London.
> I was on a bus on mile end road and heard this loud car noise to was 3 Lamborghini think it they were aventors, a white yellow and a blue one revving in the queue of traffic the bus just went past them in it's bus lane.

Bus lanes are the stupidest idea ever, half the time it's empty tarmac. Best to buy an old taxi, then you can use the bus lane.

>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Or tan attempt to make yuor car difficult to be stolen or moved
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > without the drivers or owners permission.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Handbrakes are very weak, that wouldn't stop anyone. You just put the car onto a tow truck anyway.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Little chance of getting a tow truck for such a thing near me, cars parked to close together.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> You live in a city? Why?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Same reason most people do, can't really imagine living out in the sticks what do people do all day and night.
>> >> >> >> >> >> Drove 10 miles to what you do. Or not do nightclubs that are for teenagers.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > You mean for those that are to old to live.
>> >> >> >> >> Are you a teenager?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > No, do you think only teenages go to nightclubs.
>> >> >> >> Yes, and those who never grew up. Which are you?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Both depending how I feel.
>> >> >> > I'm not ready for teh local retirement home, not even ready to book my place as you obviously are.
>> >> >> I can be a childish arsehole too, but not with social shit like nightclubs.
>> >> >
>> >> > I prefer them to pubs, but never been tempted by festivals like Glastonbury (outdoor that is)
>> >> That sounds fun with all the mud and scantily clad girls.
>> >
>> > I'm not a fan of rain mud etc.. or the toilets or camping.
>> A sissy then.
>
> I prefer my whisky neat no rainwater, mud or any other fluid
> I only use coke as a mixer if drinking JD.

You're not supposed to sip the whisky off the ground.

On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 03:19:46 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, 27 June 2022 at 17:58:53 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> > The last one I went to was a couple of weeks ago .
>> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slvwi-4qkG4
>> >> > they used one of my videos I took at 1:47
>> >> What a load of shite, just people yelling and singing without a tune.
>> >
>> > I din;t like most of it. arrived about 9pm and left just before 2am.. The band I filmed were the last on it that room there were 3 separate areas yuo could wander round. The bands stopped at 11pm and then it was club night.
>> Looked like Karaoke to me.
>
> Nah that's one think I don't like in a night out.

I was at a Karaoke at a nudist camp once, that was cool.

>> >> >> > Have a nice cup of tea and an iced bun and share a bag or werthers originals.
>> >> >> > Wow what a life.
>> >> >> I'm the exact opposite of that.
>> >> >
>> >> > Not sure what that means
>> >> The things you listed are the last thing I enjoy doing.
>> >
>> > I can do both but teh clubs are a good place to meet people and catch up with friends.
>> > I've been going to the gig one since 1988 used to go every saturday until about 2001
>> > when the council made them have a drink licence before then you could take your own drink in,
>> > was a cheap night especially as my flatmate worked in the cloakroom so I got free entry most weeks.
>> > closed at 7:30am sunday morning.
>> I went to a race where they had drinks and didn't allow your own. We rolled loads of bottles under the edge of the tent earlier on.
>
> They frisk you now at the club check bags, I used to go in with 1/2 bottle of whisky and a bottle of cocktail I mixed.
> Some went in with carrier bags of 8 or more cans. I can;t drink a lot of liquid tend to feel sick to quick.
> I've learnt to pass myself with whisky .

You put the alcohol into bottles of lemonade silly. What are they going to do, sip everyone's drink?

>> >> >> And don't you ever sell anything?
>> >> >
>> >> > Rarely and if I do it's mostly to friends , never found it worth the effort of making a decent post and taking things to the PO.
>> >> Royal Mail collect for 60p now.
>> >
>> > I still have to be home though.
>> No, you leave it somewhere and note that on the order.
>
> I haven;t anything that's worth the effort to sell.
> I have a Mac G4 tower I bought in ~1999, they are going on ebay for £30-50 not worth the effort.
> Know anyone that wants to buy a 4x CD RW SCSI, a SCSI flatbed scanner , a G3 tower , Macplus, mac SE/30, LC475. 2 zip drives. I can;t be bothered making sure they all work , then taking photos etc...

Sounds like a bunch of old junk, just list the whole lot and shove it on freecycle.

>> I bought something from Dabs Direct 20 years ago and they used the now bankrupt Amtrak. They left a card at my house while I was at work, and the number to phone was busy every time I tried. Then I got another card, and another, then they said I had to go to the depot, 30 miles away. I did and couldn't find it. So I told Dabs to use a better courier or I'd change supplier.
>
> Haven't used dabs in ages (this millennium) I used to buy Apple stuff from them and most computing stuff.

It was my only source of computing stuff 20 years ago.

>> >> > I'm waiting for a B&Q delivery now, some decking boards at home.
>> >> I get that sort of stuff in my car. Came home with several 5 metres joists on the roof once. And another time an entire large flatpacked shed. Probably illegal to do that, it was substantially larger than the car.
>> >
>> > I don't have or need a car.
>> You don't know the freedom you're missing.
> I'm free of worry of insurance, taxes and everything else that comes with a car.

Those are costs, the worry is managing to find public transport.

> When I go to a club as long as I can walk I can hail a cab or book one..
> The night bus is every 15mins too.
>
> I tried driving hated it well in london anyway.

I find it fun.

>> >> > I do prefer certain styles , I guess everyone does.
>> >> I prefer the natural style.
>> >
>> > Very rare most wear makup, I don;t like tans even natural tans, I don't like the orange look either.
>> I hate no tan - looks sickly and ill.
>
> I quite like that look.

Do you also like vampires?

>> >> > Just not my preferred type.
>> >> Who is your ideal woman?
>> >
>> > I don;t really have one in particular, that's the thing about clubs..
>> You must have some kind of preference.
>
> well yes but not sure how to describe it.
> Alternative, Goth, cyber, punk,
> I have a few pictures of ex girl friends but only one that is online as she asked me to take photos of her band
> as she played bass.
> Another well her sister is shown in a video they looked similar but the one I was with had red hair and the one in the yuotube video is a blonde both Glaswegian anyone from outside of london is foreign to me ;-)
> I seem to attract foreign girls , even went to Sweden once to visit one.
>
> One in particular , I was outside a pub as it was crowded and hot in there a girl came up to me and stated chatting to me
> said she was half German, half African but came from outer space.
> she asked me what I was drinking I said snakebite and black, she asked me if I wanted go to a recording studio with her.
> I asked will there be any drink there, she said yes of course, I said I should be meeting my girl friend at midnight
> at a club, she said she's going there too and she'd pay for the cab there and back . So I agreed, when we got there
> the roundhouse chalk farm, she introduced me to the staff as her german cousin as they didn't like strangers visiting.
> She disappeared for about 10mins and came back and handed me a carton of F*&^%$ orange juice, I was well gutted.
> Spent about 30mins in the studio leaving me with the orange juice !
> Then she phoned her ~3 year old (I think) daughter in germany then we left for the club about 12:15 after she kept the black cab waiting for 20mins then insisted he played a couple of her tracks she has with her..
> She asked me which version I preferred of the lords prayer, the german or english version I said the german as I didn;t know what the words were. Never went out with her as such she seemed to love herself more than anyone else could and that puts me off anyone.
> But she seemed a fun person to be around quite nice in an extrovert way. I don't think she fancied me but she did say I had beautiful eyes, maybe she likes the bloodshot look who knows.
> Never saw her after we went our separate ways in the club, well not until 4 years later when my friends band were supporting her I think at the rainbow in camden .
> Apart from the orange juice I quite enjoyed the experience.

You seem to have some odd adventures.

On Saturday, 2 July 2022 at 17:30:14 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 01:44:41 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, 26 June 2022 at 17:52:57 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> > Not worth the effort and I doubt that would happen if we bought 50, which was the last large purchases of 5Amp PSU's
> >> >> > China but from a reputable source.
> >> >> You buy a couple from 25 different sellers.
> >> >
> >> > We can;t do that we have to go through a process with finance and get approvals and quotes for some things.
> >> So did I, until I kicked up a fuss and quoted several instances where I could save up to two thirds on the price.
> >
> > We've rarely found that when searching for the cheapest price.
> The "deals" with suppliers we had were ridiculous.

Ours seem fine for most things.

> >> > we bought 50 of these Bench Top Linear Power Supply, 0-30V 5A with Twin Outputs.
> >> These? Did you drop a link?
> >
> > was from onecall but the site was down for maintenance, seemed more expensive on ebay when we looked and only had a couple and weighing about 5-6KG each P&P was expensive .
> Occasionally it's cheaper elsewhere, but I always start with Ebay, and if the price looks too much I have a search elsewhere. And absolutely never used overpriced Amazon. That's just Ebay with less choices and more cost.

That's not my experience , the dd thing is cheaper on ebay but not by much.
> >> >> >> > we're having problems getting raspberry Pi 4s at the moment.
> >> >> >> Problems getting them at all, or problems getting them at a reasonable price?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Problems getting them, they filter though 1 per customer from some suppliers.
> >> >>
> >> >> Then get each member of staff or student to buy one each.
> >> >
> >> > yuo can;t do that as it's open to fiddling and not very efficient.
> >> If it's the only way to get them....
> >
> > If they really need them but they don't normally need the latest tech for an undergrad project even masters and MSc don't need them for a project.
> > One student asked us to buy a 5KV pulse generator and some high octane fuel we sent him back to his supervisor
> > for funding to get a research grant , never heard from him again.
> That sounds like an interesting project! What was he aiming to do?

Some sort of fast propulsion drive for probes to other planets he claimed it was faster than anything NASA had, he wanted to prove it. Not sure we could do that in a lab.
Can you image the problems using a 5KV pulse generator to ignite high octane fuel :-0
I'm guessing he didn't account for the weight of fuel needed just to get it into orbit.
Trouble with some academics they just say go to the teaching labs borrow what you can from them and buy the rest from your project fund, which is normally £100 max, anything else needs to eb paid for by a research grant.
Another student wanted some resistors and an LED that worked at 5KV as he was rotating a magnet in a magnetic field, he wanted to stick a probe in close to the magnet rotating at 30K RPM of something
he estimated he'd get a few KVs from a coil placed in the field so wanted to touch it with an LED.
Again we sent him back to his supervisor to approve any purchases and to add the items to the on-line order form we provide, but he never found a supplier for either a LED or resistor with a 5KV rating.
He asked me what would happen if he used our standard 1/4w resistors.
I said they'd just go open circuit with a big flash and I wouldn't want to be holding a stick with one on.

> >> >> >> > Most of the stuff we buy isn't cheaper on ebay anyway.
> >> >> >> Some stuff is, some stuff isn't. I don't understand some sellers, when you subtract what they must pay for postage and Ebay fees, they end up with 50p. So unless they're stealing the goods, that's not a profit.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > could be for currency.
> >> >> Huh?
> >> >
> >> > Money laundering .
> >> I don't know how that works.
> >
> > Me neither. But I think when you send them the money they then order from a supplier in their currency
> > so they get £ and spend rupees or yen or whatever.
> Which must mean the conversion rate available in banks is wrong.

>
> And it's hardly laundering, I thought that was someone disposing of some stolen money by buying and selling things with it.
> >> > If something is cheaper on ebay we have used it in the past we bought 100 RGB LEDs
> >> > cheap and easy to test if woiking the 10% or so they didn't you can just throw away.
> >> Ah so you can use Ebay. You were objecting to it earlier.
> >
> > The college doesn't like it especially for high value items .
> > We're allowed about £2k per month and anything over £500 has to be ordered by finance
> > on an account which I think they pay 1-3 months later. Most ebayers want the money up front I don't blame them.
> Finance departments are a waste of fucking space. You're the one that knows what you need and where the best place to get it is, not them.

They have all the account codes for budgets for each area and grants.

> >> >> >> But he's a fat fuck.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > and that's being polite about him
> >> >> His policies are wonderful.
> >> >
> >> > He doesn't have any other than to make himself rich.
> >> He's far right, which I like.
> >
> > He's a con artist.
> Don't care, I'm fed up of left wingers. I see trader4 in alt.home.repair is now moaning about Biden after he used to moan about Trump....

It's easy to moan , people get pissed of when they can;t have what they think they should have.

> >> > I wonder if he'll be able to run for office next year or will he end up on prison.
> >> > How can anyone lose money running a casino .
> >> > An airline that doesn;t fly, and as for trump university.
> >> Americans always try to get their politicians in prison. They vote someone in then get upset about it, it's pathetic.
> >
> > Then they vote them out .
> That doesn't seem enough for the childish suing culture.

Yeah America is a pretty backwards country in a lot of ways.

> >> >> >> > Strange he needed so many doctors and drugs to cure him from a fake disease.
> >> >> >> It doesn't kill fit people.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > It can and has .
> >> >> Not often. And you never know when someone has a hidden defect.
> >> >
> >> > Often enough
> >> Those people need to be removed from the gene pool.
> >> >> >> How come this guy, who has a heart condition, survived it twice?
> >> >> >> https://www.patreon.com/krzyszp
> >> >> >> >> It only kills the weak.
> >> >> >> > Only the weak minded think that.
> >> >> >> Mind and body are one and the same.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Like stephen hawking you mean .
> >> >> That's hardly the norm.
> >> >
> >> > He was lucky he was found to be intelligent before he became ill.
> >> He didn't live as good a life as you think. His relatives didn't take care of him.
> >
> > It shouldn't be up to them to look after them that's going back 100s of years .
> So you wouldn't look after your ill relative?

Look after is one thing, I haven;t the skills to do liver transplants, heart ops or even personal care.
Even lifting someone up to go on the toilet can do your back in and dropping them.

> >> >> >> Also ice baths prevent colds.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > We don't have them in the lab, or on public transport.
> >> >> You use one at home or in a gym.
> >> >
> >> > Why did they close the gyms then oh yeah all that putting and blowing .
> >> They closed stuff because they're stupid.
> >
> > gyms are crowded places .
> And nobody was forcing anyone to go.
> >> > I had to stop a couple of students doing a project where they were measuring heart rates and stuff jumping about
> >> > sharing heart rate sensors pulse sensors . If they want to do that go outside not in a lab.
> >> What was your objection?
> >
> > Spearding infection one came in coughing and splutters didn't even have a mask on, the next day he asked for his stuff in the project cupboard to be posted to him as he'd tested positive. He lives opposite the college in the student accommodation.
> > Apparent;y the place was riddled with positive cases.
> So what? It's just a bad cold.

On Saturday, 2 July 2022 at 17:42:29 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 02:02:19 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Monday, 27 June 2022 at 17:58:43 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 02:41:57 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >> > in chingford mount with a bus lane on the left
> >> >> > there was no kerb, waiting for the lights and the large lorry trying to turn.
> >> >> > If handbrakes weren't useful they wouldn;t waste money having them.
> >> >> They're for learner drivers. I hill start with the footbrake.
> >> >
> >> > doesn't mean it the best way though.
> >> Of course it is, the footbrake is more powerful and more accurate. And it leaves your hands free for indicating, steering, etc.
> >
> > Didn't think you needed to do any of those things when parked or having stopped.
> If you're stopped waiting at a junction, you should indicate.
> >> >> > when approaching lights, changing to red when the bus stops.
> >> >> Gears.
> >> >
> >> > are for slowing down or speeding up
> >> It's enough to slow down, gravity will do the stopping part if going uphill.
> >
> > and downhill ?
> Gears are often used to limit speed on steep downhills.
> >> I once tried selecting 1st gear in my Golf auto at 70mph. It's surprising how quickly it slows down. It sensibly changed down as soon as possible.. I watched it hitting the red line precisely with each gear.
> >> >> >> > You sound like something from a Mr Bean sketch.
> >> >> >> I must give you a lift sometime, you'll be grabbing things for dear life. I once gave a lift to three colleagues. The one in the front seat found it amusing when I went more than double the speed limit over speedbumps, causing the women in the back to bash their heads off the roof.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Only been in a speeding car twice once a cab at 3am. about 60 or a 30 road. The police stopped him, but I surprised when they just said oh it's a BMW and then said just don;t do it again and that was it.
> >> >> They let him off because it was a BMW?
> >> >
> >> > That's what it sounded like they had trouble catching up catching up, must have been quite a fast acceleration
> >> > as it took them a while, he stopped apologised, said he was a cab and driving up home.
> >> > The road was pretty empty at that time. He wasn't a boy racer I think they could tell.
> >> Cabs have an unwritten rule with the police? Maybe there's a bribe.
> >
> > Didn't see any money handed over, and I'm guessing he was a licensed cab.
> Probably a pre-arranged agreement.

Doubt that we got the cab from angel islinton to walthamstow .
> >> Didn't they notice he was a cab? The sign on the roof is as giveaway.
> >
> > No it;'s wasn't a black cab as such but it was black no idea of the model though.
> They all say taxi on them though.

No that don't not the ones yuo book from cab offices.

> >> >> That's not what happened when I was going a tonne on the motorway and a BMW overtook me about 130.
> >> >> > Thought I might have to walk a mile+ home.
> >> >> The police should have had to give you a lift.
> >> >> > Another time in cornwall which was more scary as it was a single road with hedges on either side
> >> >> > but he was a local so I guess he knew the chances of an oncoming vehicle was low.
> >> >> > But in london your lucky if you can get to 30MPH on most roads
> >> >> I dare you to get a lift off me, I'll scare you shitless. If the tyres don't squeal, you didn't go round the corner fast enough.
> >> >
> >> > Maybe you can do that where you live but around here it;s just not possible to much traffic.
> >> Go round them.
> >
> > No where to go after that. Yet another car in front, maybe you've never driven in london.
> Yes, just avoid the congested bits and the congested times.

There's this thing called rush hour that states about 7am ends about 10am starts again about 4pm and ends about 7pm.

> >> I once got a long distance bus into London. It was amazing how fast he went. Maybe everyone got out of the way.
> > Into London is not exactly London.
> > I was on a bus on mile end road and heard this loud car noise to was 3 Lamborghini think it they were aventors, a white yellow and a blue one revving in the queue of traffic the bus just went past them in it's bus lane.
> Bus lanes are the stupidest idea ever, half the time it's empty tarmac. Best to buy an old taxi, then you can use the bus lane.

Hardly anywhere to park in Mile end most places are about £10 a day to park.
The college car park is mostly filled with contractors doing building work.
You have to get there before 6am to get a parking spot.

> >> A sissy then.
> >
> > I prefer my whisky neat no rainwater, mud or any other fluid
> > I only use coke as a mixer if drinking JD.
> You're not supposed to sip the whisky off the ground.

don't like those plastic glasses either.

On Saturday, 2 July 2022 at 23:06:01 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 03:19:46 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Monday, 27 June 2022 at 17:58:53 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> > The last one I went to was a couple of weeks ago .
> >> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slvwi-4qkG4
> >> >> > they used one of my videos I took at 1:47
> >> >> What a load of shite, just people yelling and singing without a tune.
> >> >
> >> > I din;t like most of it. arrived about 9pm and left just before 2am. The band I filmed were the last on it that room there were 3 separate areas yuo could wander round. The bands stopped at 11pm and then it was club night.
> >> Looked like Karaoke to me.
> >
> > Nah that's one think I don't like in a night out.
> I was at a Karaoke at a nudist camp once, that was cool.

Hope it wasn't too cool.
A Finnish GF told me about going with her parents where they have a sauna them have an ice bath then
hit each other with sticks/twigs not my idea of fun.
> >> >> >> > Have a nice cup of tea and an iced bun and share a bag or werthers originals.
> >> >> >> > Wow what a life.
> >> >> >> I'm the exact opposite of that.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Not sure what that means
> >> >> The things you listed are the last thing I enjoy doing.
> >> >
> >> > I can do both but teh clubs are a good place to meet people and catch up with friends.
> >> > I've been going to the gig one since 1988 used to go every saturday until about 2001
> >> > when the council made them have a drink licence before then you could take your own drink in,
> >> > was a cheap night especially as my flatmate worked in the cloakroom so I got free entry most weeks.
> >> > closed at 7:30am sunday morning.
> >> I went to a race where they had drinks and didn't allow your own. We rolled loads of bottles under the edge of the tent earlier on.
> >
> > They frisk you now at the club check bags, I used to go in with 1/2 bottle of whisky and a bottle of cocktail I mixed.
> > Some went in with carrier bags of 8 or more cans. I can;t drink a lot of liquid tend to feel sick to quick.
> > I've learnt to pass myself with whisky .
> You put the alcohol into bottles of lemonade silly. What are they going to do, sip everyone's drink?

your not allowed to take in any bottles of liquid, even unopened ones.
> >> >> >> And don't you ever sell anything?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Rarely and if I do it's mostly to friends , never found it worth the effort of making a decent post and taking things to the PO.
> >> >> Royal Mail collect for 60p now.
> >> >
> >> > I still have to be home though.
> >> No, you leave it somewhere and note that on the order.
> >
> > I haven;t anything that's worth the effort to sell.
> > I have a Mac G4 tower I bought in ~1999, they are going on ebay for £30-50 not worth the effort.
> > Know anyone that wants to buy a 4x CD RW SCSI, a SCSI flatbed scanner , a G3 tower , Macplus, mac SE/30, LC475. 2 zip drives. I can;t be bothered making sure they all work , then taking photos etc...
> Sounds like a bunch of old junk, just list the whole lot and shove it on freecycle.

One day, I'd like to get them all working in a room but haven't got the space.

> >> I bought something from Dabs Direct 20 years ago and they used the now bankrupt Amtrak. They left a card at my house while I was at work, and the number to phone was busy every time I tried. Then I got another card, and another, then they said I had to go to the depot, 30 miles away. I did and couldn't find it. So I told Dabs to use a better courier or I'd change supplier.
> >
> > Haven't used dabs in ages (this millennium) I used to buy Apple stuff from them and most computing stuff.
> It was my only source of computing stuff 20 years ago.
> >> >> > I'm waiting for a B&Q delivery now, some decking boards at home.
> >> >> I get that sort of stuff in my car. Came home with several 5 metres joists on the roof once. And another time an entire large flatpacked shed. Probably illegal to do that, it was substantially larger than the car.
> >> >
> >> > I don't have or need a car.
> >> You don't know the freedom you're missing.
> > I'm free of worry of insurance, taxes and everything else that comes with a car.
> Those are costs, the worry is managing to find public transport.

No problem for me, even the night bus is every 15mins, 30-45 mins from the club,
don;t have to worry about drinking to much either.

> > When I go to a club as long as I can walk I can hail a cab or book one.
> > The night bus is every 15mins too.
> >
> > I tried driving hated it well in london anyway.
> I find it fun.

I don;t know anyone that thinks driving is fun in london.

> >> >> > I do prefer certain styles , I guess everyone does.
> >> >> I prefer the natural style.
> >> >
> >> > Very rare most wear makup, I don;t like tans even natural tans, I don't like the orange look either.
> >> I hate no tan - looks sickly and ill.
> >
> > I quite like that look.
> Do you also like vampires?

I like the look .

Here's a pic of my ex Swedish GF taken at Uppsala station.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/azqml599zb65bu7/U01.jpg?dl=0

Oh yeah and that's her pet rat in her pocket called Iggy named after iggy pop.

> >> >> > Just not my preferred type.
> >> >> Who is your ideal woman?
> >> >
> >> > I don;t really have one in particular, that's the thing about clubs.
> >> You must have some kind of preference.
> >
> > well yes but not sure how to describe it.
> > Alternative, Goth, cyber, punk,
> > I have a few pictures of ex girl friends but only one that is online as she asked me to take photos of her band

https://www.flickr.com/photos/whiskydave/51141030371/in/album-72157719046160647/

I got that picture of her printed on a T-shirt for her birthday, she liked the way she was looking up at herself when wearing it.

> > as she played bass.
> > Another well her sister is shown in a video they looked similar but the one I was with had red hair and the one in the yuotube video is a blonde both Glaswegian anyone from outside of london is foreign to me ;-)
> > I seem to attract foreign girls , even went to Sweden once to visit one..
> >
> > One in particular , I was outside a pub as it was crowded and hot in there a girl came up to me and stated chatting to me
> > said she was half German, half African but came from outer space.
> > she asked me what I was drinking I said snakebite and black, she asked me if I wanted go to a recording studio with her.
> > I asked will there be any drink there, she said yes of course, I said I should be meeting my girl friend at midnight
> > at a club, she said she's going there too and she'd pay for the cab there and back . So I agreed, when we got there
> > the roundhouse chalk farm, she introduced me to the staff as her german cousin as they didn't like strangers visiting.
> > She disappeared for about 10mins and came back and handed me a carton of F*&^%$ orange juice, I was well gutted.
> > Spent about 30mins in the studio leaving me with the orange juice !
> > Then she phoned her ~3 year old (I think) daughter in germany then we left for the club about 12:15 after she kept the black cab waiting for 20mins then insisted he played a couple of her tracks she has with her.
> > She asked me which version I preferred of the lords prayer, the german or english version I said the german as I didn;t know what the words were.

forgot the links (yet again) she;s not very well know in the UK but was in europe .

I think she has quite a sexy speaking voice, and she was quite flirty when she talks which I like.

Here's the track and she looked similar to the CD cover when I met her.
German version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQB8LbFombc

English version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLD_mqpOlHc

> Never went out with her as such she seemed to love herself more than anyone else could and that puts me off anyone.
> > But she seemed a fun person to be around quite nice in an extrovert way.. I don't think she fancied me but she did say I had beautiful eyes, maybe she likes the bloodshot look who knows.

Maybe you'd like her voice more from this clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTEhz-px1Kw

> > Never saw her after we went our separate ways in the club, well not until 4 years later when my friends band were supporting her I think at the rainbow in camden .

On Wed, 06 Jul 2022 01:36:52 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, 2 July 2022 at 17:30:14 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 01:44:41 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Sunday, 26 June 2022 at 17:52:57 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> > Not worth the effort and I doubt that would happen if we bought 50, which was the last large purchases of 5Amp PSU's
>> >> >> > China but from a reputable source.
>> >> >> You buy a couple from 25 different sellers.
>> >> >
>> >> > We can;t do that we have to go through a process with finance and get approvals and quotes for some things.
>> >> So did I, until I kicked up a fuss and quoted several instances where I could save up to two thirds on the price.
>> >
>> > We've rarely found that when searching for the cheapest price.
>> The "deals" with suppliers we had were ridiculous.
>
> Ours seem fine for most things.

Perhaps your finance department wasn't so corrupt. Universities are more privatised (therefore accountable) than schools.

>> >> > we bought 50 of these Bench Top Linear Power Supply, 0-30V 5A with Twin Outputs.
>> >> These? Did you drop a link?
>> >
>> > was from onecall but the site was down for maintenance, seemed more expensive on ebay when we looked and only had a couple and weighing about 5-6KG each P&P was expensive .
>> Occasionally it's cheaper elsewhere, but I always start with Ebay, and if the price looks too much I have a search elsewhere. And absolutely never used overpriced Amazon. That's just Ebay with less choices and more cost.
>
> That's not my experience , the dd thing is cheaper on ebay but not by much.

Every single thing, I did some random tests to check. Just think of a few things, find them on both. Ebay is always a lot less.

And I considered once selling things on Amazon (when I made custom built gaming PCs), the Amazon fees would have been DOUBLE Ebay. There's no wonder the end product costs more.

>> >> >> >> > we're having problems getting raspberry Pi 4s at the moment.
>> >> >> >> Problems getting them at all, or problems getting them at a reasonable price?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Problems getting them, they filter though 1 per customer from some suppliers.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Then get each member of staff or student to buy one each.
>> >> >
>> >> > yuo can;t do that as it's open to fiddling and not very efficient.
>> >> If it's the only way to get them....
>> >
>> > If they really need them but they don't normally need the latest tech for an undergrad project even masters and MSc don't need them for a project.
>> > One student asked us to buy a 5KV pulse generator and some high octane fuel we sent him back to his supervisor
>> > for funding to get a research grant , never heard from him again.
>> That sounds like an interesting project! What was he aiming to do?
>
> Some sort of fast propulsion drive for probes to other planets he claimed it was faster than anything NASA had, he wanted to prove it. Not sure we could do that in a lab.
> Can you image the problems using a 5KV pulse generator to ignite high octane fuel :-0

I assume you have some outdoor areas?

> I'm guessing he didn't account for the weight of fuel needed just to get it into orbit.
> Trouble with some academics they just say go to the teaching labs borrow what you can from them and buy the rest from your project fund, which is normally £100 max, anything else needs to eb paid for by a research grant.
> Another student wanted some resistors and an LED that worked at 5KV as he was rotating a magnet in a magnetic field, he wanted to stick a probe in close to the magnet rotating at 30K RPM of something
> he estimated he'd get a few KVs from a coil placed in the field so wanted to touch it with an LED.
> Again we sent him back to his supervisor to approve any purchases and to add the items to the on-line order form we provide, but he never found a supplier for either a LED or resistor with a 5KV rating.

LEDs at 5kV? WTF? There must have been things he could have added to that circuit to take the voltage away.

> He asked me what would happen if he used our standard 1/4w resistors.
> I said they'd just go open circuit with a big flash and I wouldn't want to be holding a stick with one on.

ROFL!

>> And it's hardly laundering, I thought that was someone disposing of some stolen money by buying and selling things with it.
>> >> > If something is cheaper on ebay we have used it in the past we bought 100 RGB LEDs
>> >> > cheap and easy to test if woiking the 10% or so they didn't you can just throw away.
>> >> Ah so you can use Ebay. You were objecting to it earlier.
>> >
>> > The college doesn't like it especially for high value items .
>> > We're allowed about £2k per month and anything over £500 has to be ordered by finance
>> > on an account which I think they pay 1-3 months later. Most ebayers want the money up front I don't blame them.
>> Finance departments are a waste of fucking space. You're the one that knows what you need and where the best place to get it is, not them.
>
> They have all the account codes for budgets for each area and grants.

But they don't have the knowledge of where to get things.

>> >> >> >> But he's a fat fuck.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > and that's being polite about him
>> >> >> His policies are wonderful.
>> >> >
>> >> > He doesn't have any other than to make himself rich.
>> >> He's far right, which I like.
>> >
>> > He's a con artist.
>> Don't care, I'm fed up of left wingers. I see trader4 in alt.home.repair is now moaning about Biden after he used to moan about Trump....
>
> It's easy to moan , people get pissed of when they can;t have what they think they should have.

Probably because all governments are criminal.

>> >> > I wonder if he'll be able to run for office next year or will he end up on prison.
>> >> > How can anyone lose money running a casino .
>> >> > An airline that doesn;t fly, and as for trump university.
>> >> Americans always try to get their politicians in prison. They vote someone in then get upset about it, it's pathetic.
>> >
>> > Then they vote them out .
>> That doesn't seem enough for the childish suing culture.
>
> Yeah America is a pretty backwards country in a lot of ways.

2nd world. Further forwards than Ethiopia, bit not as advanced as us.

>> >> >> >> > Strange he needed so many doctors and drugs to cure him from a fake disease.
>> >> >> >> It doesn't kill fit people.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > It can and has .
>> >> >> Not often. And you never know when someone has a hidden defect.
>> >> >
>> >> > Often enough
>> >> Those people need to be removed from the gene pool.
>> >> >> >> How come this guy, who has a heart condition, survived it twice?
>> >> >> >> https://www.patreon.com/krzyszp
>> >> >> >> >> It only kills the weak.
>> >> >> >> > Only the weak minded think that.
>> >> >> >> Mind and body are one and the same.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Like stephen hawking you mean .
>> >> >> That's hardly the norm.
>> >> >
>> >> > He was lucky he was found to be intelligent before he became ill..
>> >> He didn't live as good a life as you think. His relatives didn't take care of him.
>> >
>> > It shouldn't be up to them to look after them that's going back 100s of years .
>> So you wouldn't look after your ill relative?
>
> Look after is one thing, I haven;t the skills to do liver transplants, heart ops or even personal care.
> Even lifting someone up to go on the toilet can do your back in and dropping them.