On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 09:08:54 +0100, Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

> On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 4:16:33 PM UTC+10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 06:49:10 +0100, Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 2:03:40 PM UTC+10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 04:43:33 +0100, Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
>> >> > On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 10:30:16 AM UTC+10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 09:45:54 +0100, Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
>> >> >> > On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 2:57:15 PM UTC+10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Sat, 02 Apr 2022 06:42:02 +0100, Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 1:36:45 PM UTC+11, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 02 Apr 2022 03:22:44 +0100, Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > <snip>
>> >
>> >> > Masks aren't anything like perfect. They make it less likely that you will infect anybody else (if you happen to be infected and you won't know that since you are infectious before you show symptoms), They also make less likely that you will get exposed to the virus if somebody else is infected. They catch some of the virus loaded droplets, but can't catch all of them.
>> >>
>> >> Then you can wear two so I don't have to wear one.
>> >
>> > It doesn't work that way. You are clearly too stupid to understand why, so I won't bother spelling it out.
>> 1+1 = 2 duh.
>
> Except when it doesn't. Wearing two masks isn't anything like twice as effective as wearing one.

And yet you think it's more effective for me and you to both wear one.

>> >> >> > The National Health Service doesn't take you money or your house, unlike it's US equivalents, where getting sick is the most likely route to bankruptcy. Aged care homes aren't cheerful places, but good health care keeps you out of them for longer than bad and over-priced health care.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> WRONG. My grandmother was in a care home for 2-3 years and half her house value was taken.
>> >> >
>> >> > But that wasn't done by the NHS. How you mother' care was paid for is something you haven't told us - you presumably don't know, since you think the NHS was involved.
>> >
>> >> There was no free care. She got free nursing and medication. But the housing and running of the place like cooking and cleaning had to be paid for out of her own money. It would have become free if she ran out of money, but half her life savings was gone in a couple of years.
>> >
>> > So it wasn't the NHS.
>>
>> There are no NHS care homes, only NHS nursing within care homes.
>
> So it wasn't the NHS that got the money.

Who cares? The point is the NHS is pointless. When you get old and sick, they don't take care of you.

I lost a tooth, the NHS won't pay unless I make up something about being in a fight or car accident.

>> >> > Nobody sensible would have voted for a party lead by Boris Johnson. His personality defects are well known.
>> >> His personality is great, he's more a normal person than a politician. And there's not much change in policy between him and Cameron. I vote for a party not a leader.
>> >
>> > You clearly aren't remotely sensible. His journalistic career ended when he was caught faking his quotes.
>> >
>> > https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/23/boris-johnson-is-the-ultimate-purveyor-of-fake-news
>> >
>> > "There was the infamous fabrication of a quote in 1988 that resulted in his being sacked by the Times."
>>
>> And how does this make him no good at being a politician?
>
> If you can't work that out, there's no point in trying to tell you.

I'm a shit mechanic, does that also make me a shit baker?

>> I bet you're one of those people who thinks Clinton was a rubbish politician because he got a blowjob.
>
> Wrong. He was a remarkably competent politician. Boris Johnson isn't.

Thanks for agreeing with my point, what he did to Lewinsky was irrelevant to his political abilities, just as Boris's journalism is nothing to do with his political abilities.

>> >> >> >> >> Let Covid kill off the weak and useless. I've had no vaccinations and never wear a mask and have been in close contact with many people. I'm still here.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > What a pity. You don't deserve to be.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> By who's ruling? God?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Just my opinion. God - if he existed - could make the point more directly.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Your opinion is wrong. Evolution must be allowed to take place.
>> >> >
>> >> > It is taking place - you wont wear a mask or get vaccinated. Human beings have been selected for resistance to infectious disease since started living in towns, but the selection is only effective when it takes out people who will go on to reproduce. Killing of the elderly - which is what Covid19 is best at isn't applying any direct selective pressure at all.
>> >>
>> >> It reduces the burden on society.
>> >
>> > It also gets rid of people who can still make a contribution. You don't seem to be one of them.
>>
>> If you can contribute, you're young enough to make babies.
>
> But not necessarily to raise them until they can start making their own.

WTF? Covid starts killing off in the 40s. My sister had babies in her 40s.

>> >> >> >> > and if you had caught the infection, not noticed,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> What, you mean it can actually be so mild it doesn't hurt? And yet you still worry about it?!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Something like 30% of Covid-19 infections are asymptomatic. It's higher if you have been vaccinated against it. And even without symptoms you can have a high enough viral load to infect other people. In fact the asmptomatic seem to have as high a viral load as people who go on to show symptoms.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > They don't have it for all that long, so it is worth getting vaccinated, and the vaccinated are less likely to get infected at all, so it pays off for everybody else as well
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The vaccinated are also less likely to have symptoms, as you just pointed out, so more likely to pass it on unknowingly.
>> >> >
>> >> > Pretty much everybody passes it on unknowingly. You are infectious before you show symptoms, and because you haven't retreated to your bed at that point, you are a lot more likely to pass on the disease at that early stage.
>> >>
>> >> But if I never get symptoms, or just some mild ones I think are a cold,
>> >
>> > An aged care worker - who ended up giving fatal doses of Covid-19 to some of the elderly people she worked with went to work with a "scratchy throat". Bad mistake.
>>
>> Was she vaccinated?
>
> Probably not. It was early in the epidemic.

And with vaccination she wouldn't even have had that scratchy throat, so even if she'd tried to be careful, she would have killed loads.

>> To be fair a scratchy throat is a common ailment.
>
> It got to be a lot less common when Covid-19 hit. All the other infectious diseases got a lot less common at that point. Seasonal flu pretty much vanished.

Yeah, covid attacked flu. Bollocks. Viruses live off larger beings.

>> >> I will continue to mix with people when I would have been in bed. Why do you think they tell people with symptoms to self isolate?
>> >
>> > It makes them less likely to pass on the infection - which is to say to maintain the epidemic.
>>
>> So you admit that after you get symptoms you can pass it on, we're getting there. Now consider your vaccination is hiding those symptoms from you.
>
> I've explicitly considered it above. You do seem to be an idiot ty not to advertise the fact.

I see no evidence of this. I'll make it simple for you:
Mr Smith is not vaccinated, he gets covid, he goes to bed. He maybe met a few folk before he felt ill.
Mr Jones is vaccinated, he gets covid, he feels a little off, so meets more people before deciding to isolate.
Mr Foster is vaccinated and gets no symptoms, and meets hundred of people. He kills a shitload of them. The vaccine caused these deaths.

On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 9:16:30 PM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 09:08:54 +0100, Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
>
> > On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 4:16:33 PM UTC+10, Commander Kinsey wrote:

> >> So you admit that after you get symptoms you can pass it on, we're getting there. Now consider your vaccination is hiding those symptoms from you.

That's not an 'admission' at all, just common knowledge.
Vaccinations are not concealments.

> > I've explicitly considered it above. You do seem to be an idiot ty not to advertise the fact.

> I see no evidence of this. I'll make it simple for you:
> Mr Smith is not vaccinated, he gets covid, he goes to bed. He maybe met a few folk before he felt ill.
... so?
> Mr Jones is vaccinated, he gets covid, he feels a little off, so meets more people before deciding to isolate.
.... and since he is representative of his local population., those people are probably vaccinated.

> Mr Foster is vaccinated and gets no symptoms, and meets hundred of people. He kills a shitload of them. The vaccine caused these deaths.

Vaccination that causes 'no symptoms' also presumablly lessens the infectious period. So, vaccinated or not,
that can happen, and 'He kills' is wrong because only a few will get the disease, most are (like Mr. Foster) vaccinated.
Vaccination in Foster implies probable vaccination of his cohort of neighbors.

There's a branching tree, with vaccination near the trunk, but that doesn't make it the cause of all the elements
on its fork. It does, however, change the number of fatalities, and the 'simple' analysis does not allow any such
conclusions as "The vaccine caused those deaths", nor even that the vaccine caused any recoveries. It's
too simple, thus is inconclusive.

On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 07:56:20 +0100, whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 9:16:30 PM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Mon, 04 Apr 2022 09:08:54 +0100, Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 4:16:33 PM UTC+10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>
>> >> So you admit that after you get symptoms you can pass it on, we're getting there. Now consider your vaccination is hiding those symptoms from you.
>
> That's not an 'admission' at all, just common knowledge.
> Vaccinations are not concealments.

Of course they are, they reduce symptoms, meaning you're less likely to know you're infectious, so give it to more people.

>> > I've explicitly considered it above. You do seem to be an idiot ty not to advertise the fact.
>
>> I see no evidence of this. I'll make it simple for you:
>> Mr Smith is not vaccinated, he gets covid, he goes to bed. He maybe met a few folk before he felt ill.
> ... so?
>> Mr Jones is vaccinated, he gets covid, he feels a little off, so meets more people before deciding to isolate.
> ... and since he is representative of his local population., those people are probably vaccinated.

Why would everyone in a local population have the same views?

>> Mr Foster is vaccinated and gets no symptoms, and meets hundred of people. He kills a shitload of them. The vaccine caused these deaths.
>
> Vaccination that causes 'no symptoms' also presumablly lessens the infectious period. So, vaccinated or not,
> that can happen, and 'He kills' is wrong because only a few will get the disease, most are (like Mr. Foster) vaccinated.
> Vaccination in Foster implies probable vaccination of his cohort of neighbors.
>
> There's a branching tree, with vaccination near the trunk, but that doesn't make it the cause of all the elements
> on its fork. It does, however, change the number of fatalities, and the 'simple' analysis does not allow any such
> conclusions as "The vaccine caused those deaths", nor even that the vaccine caused any recoveries. It's
> too simple, thus is inconclusive.

Drawing silly tree pictures doesn't negate simple facts.

On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 12:00:01 AM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 07:56:20 +0100, whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 9:16:30 PM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:

> >> Mr Jones is vaccinated, he gets covid, he feels a little off, so meets more people before deciding to isolate.
> > ... and since he is representative of his local population., those people are probably vaccinated.

> Why would everyone in a local population have the same views?

The word 'probably' does not square with the suggestion of 'everyone'. My friends and neighbors DO
see a lot of the same things I do, which means we share a lot of the same views... in the landscape-scenery
sense and many others. It'd be a surprise if that were not the case.

> >> Mr Foster is vaccinated and gets no symptoms, and meets hundred of people. He kills a shitload of them. The vaccine caused these deaths.
> >
> > Vaccination that causes 'no symptoms' also presumablly lessens the infectious period. So, vaccinated or not,
> > that can happen, and 'He kills' is wrong because only a few will get the disease, most are (like Mr. Foster) vaccinated.
> > Vaccination in Foster implies probable vaccination of his cohort of neighbors.
> >
> > There's a branching tree, with vaccination near the trunk, but that doesn't make it the cause of all the elements
> > on its fork.

> Drawing silly tree pictures doesn't negate simple facts.

A hypothetical scenario is not 'fact', but fiction. And, that scenario does not indicate causality as
suggested. It doesn't draw ANY pictures, silly or not.

On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 08:44:10 +0100, whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 12:00:01 AM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 07:56:20 +0100, whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 9:16:30 PM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>
>> >> Mr Jones is vaccinated, he gets covid, he feels a little off, so meets more people before deciding to isolate.
>> > ... and since he is representative of his local population., those people are probably vaccinated.
>
>> Why would everyone in a local population have the same views?
>
> The word 'probably' does not square with the suggestion of 'everyone'.

English isn't precise.

> My friends and neighbors DO
> see a lot of the same things I do, which means we share a lot of the same views... in the landscape-scenery
> sense and many others. It'd be a surprise if that were not the case.

I'd be surprised if it was. Do your **neighbours** just copy you or something?

Learn to spell.

>> >> Mr Foster is vaccinated and gets no symptoms, and meets hundred of people. He kills a shitload of them. The vaccine caused these deaths.
>> >
>> > Vaccination that causes 'no symptoms' also presumablly lessens the infectious period. So, vaccinated or not,
>> > that can happen, and 'He kills' is wrong because only a few will get the disease, most are (like Mr. Foster) vaccinated.
>> > Vaccination in Foster implies probable vaccination of his cohort of neighbors.
>> >
>> > There's a branching tree, with vaccination near the trunk, but that doesn't make it the cause of all the elements
>> > on its fork.
>
>> Drawing silly tree pictures doesn't negate simple facts.
>
> A hypothetical scenario is not 'fact', but fiction. And, that scenario does not indicate causality as
> suggested. It doesn't draw ANY pictures, silly or not.

Go back to being a politician.

On 29/03/2022 18:56, Commander Kinsey wrote:

<snip>

> If I was a Russian I'd stand by Putin.  What's wrong with taking back a
> nation that once belonged to you, one full of such rich resources?

My Sister might know, she lives in Anchorage. Alaska and see what she
thinks.

--
Cheers
Clive

John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:
> This thread is officially closed.
>
> No further posting is allowed.
>
> Please adjust your newsreaders accordingly.

Idiot.

This is Usenet, you don't get to declare a thread closed.

THIS THREAD IS OFFICIALLY CLOSED

On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 8:55:17 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
> THIS THREAD IS OFFICIALLY CLOSED

BY WHOM?

BY YOUR MOTHER, OFFICIALLY

On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 9:19:41 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
> BY YOUR MOTHER, OFFICIALLY

My mother, officially and respectfully, moves to reconsider the evidences. Unarmed civilians RAPED, TORTURED and KILLED. She knows WAR CRIMES when she see it.

In sci.electronics.design John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:
> THIS THREAD IS OFFICIALLY CLOSED

You are a fucking idiot.

This is Usenet, you don't get to declare a thread closed.

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Tue, 5 Apr 2022 18:58:05 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t2i3ft$s6n$1@dont-email.me>.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET has been 53.3% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults"
to USENET.

tUCJ1thGxuey

"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in
news:op.1j2qhhswmvhs6z@ryzen.lan:

> I know how it works from experience and how genetics works.

Decidedly, you do not know.

> You
> pass on everything - intelligence, height, health, etc.
>
No, you do not. You could not be more blatantly stupid if you tried.

"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in
news:op.1j2qhhswmvhs6z@ryzen.lan:

> Thanks for pointing out how useless educating everyone in
> everything actually is.

Educating you in even a few things did not work. So, despite the
intelligence level of your parents, it did NOT "get passed on" like you
claimed it does. That fact is blatantly clear every time you make
another stupid post, and that comprises all of them.

"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in
news:op.1j2qlejimvhs6z@ryzen.lan:

> No words are taboo to anyone with a modicum of intelligence you
> fuckwit.

That rules you out. Not only has "a modicum" escaped you, but you
did not even get a hint of any.

"Turd Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in
news:op.1j2roha3mvhs6z@ryzen.lan:

> It's only protects me, since you would be wearing your own, or did
> you get a magic one that only lets germs go one way?
>

A spittle mask is NOT to protect you from others, you stupid fuck.
It is to protect others from what YOU expell.

So you are a science and physics nitwit as well.

You need a fully sealed mask for you own protection.

Spittle masks do and cannot filter what you breathe in. They are
specifically meant to capture the majority of the microdroplets which
you exhibit with every breath. You being so stupid as to not grasp the
mechanics of this simple fact is proof that you have no business
expounding on it. You are dirt stupid. You may well be even more
stupid that the troll retard in here who named himself John Doe. Both
he and you are abject idiots, at best.

On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 17:02:36 +0100, Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 8:55:17 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
>> THIS THREAD IS OFFICIALLY CLOSED
>
> BY WHOM?

Posh twat, most people say who.

On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 17:31:43 +0100, Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 9:19:41 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
>> BY YOUR MOTHER, OFFICIALLY
>
> My mother, officially and respectfully, moves to reconsider the evidences. Unarmed civilians RAPED, TORTURED and KILLED. She knows WAR CRIMES when she see it.

War crimes are what the west is doing to Russian civilians. Do you seriously think it's ok to make their food cost 3 times as much? If you want to get involved in a war which is none of your business, attack the Russian MILITARY.

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

> The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
> breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
> CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Tue, 5 Apr 2022 20:14:30 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t2i7v6$2gj$1@dont-email.me>.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id
<svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

> Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
> except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET has been 53.3% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults"
to USENET.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

Y4Sah1FX02Br

Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
news:24358457-c7e0-44f0-ba17-073b3a6d0ec1n@googlegroups.com:

> On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 10:30:16 AM UTC+10, Commander Kinsey
> wrote:
>> On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 09:45:54 +0100, Anthony William Sloman
>> <bill....@ieee
> .org> wrote:
>>
>> > On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 2:57:15 PM UTC+10, Commander Kinsey
>> > wrote:
>
>> >> On Sat, 02 Apr 2022 06:42:02 +0100, Anthony William Sloman
>> >> <bill....@i
> eee.org> wrote:
>> >> > On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 1:36:45 PM UTC+11, Commander
>> >> > Kinsey wr
> ote:
>> >> >> On Sat, 02 Apr 2022 03:22:44 +0100, Anthony William Sloman
>> >> >> <bill...
> .@ieee.org> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > which is when most people make heavy demands on it.
>> >> >> > Irresponsible
> idiots imagine that they are going to live forever, and resent
> paying for a service that isn't doing anything for them right
> now.
>> >> >
>> >> >> It's not irresponsible to want to use your money to live a
>> >> >> fun life
> now instead of extend it when you're old and decrepit. It's a
> choice.
>> >> >
>> >> > Until it comes to catching something infectious. And you
>> >> > probably wo
> n't know that what you've got is infectious.
>> >>
>> >> Stop expecting everyone else to look after you. Wear your own
>> >> pansy ma
> sk.
>> >
>> > There's nothing pansy about wearing a mask. It's exactly as
>> > much about
> looking after everybody else - protecting them about getting
> infected by you even if you don't know you are infected - as it is
> about protecting yourself from getting infected by anybody else.
>>
>> It's only protects me, since you would be wearing your own, or
>> did you ge
> t a magic one that only lets germs go one way?
>
> Masks aren't anything like perfect. They make it less likely that
> you will infect anybody else (if you happen to be infected and
> you won't know that since you are infectious before you show
> symptoms), They also make less likely that you will get exposed to
> the virus if somebody else is infected. They catch some of the
> virus loaded droplets, but can't catch all of them.
>
>> >> >> > The situation is further complicated by the fact that the
>> >> >> > main jo
> b of any public health service is actually monitoring for
> epidemics - like the Covid-19 pandemic which has been raging for
> the past two years, which was the first of it's kind since the
> Spanish flu which happened about a hundred years earlier.
> Anticipating unpredictable disasters does require the kind of
> expertise that most taxpayers lack.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The UK NHS did a rotten job during the Covid19 pandemic,
>> >> >> > in part
> because a recent conservative government had dismantled it's
> contact tracing service to save money.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The NHS never does a decent job, get rid of it entirely.
>> >> >
>> >> > That why the UK life expectancies are 81.4 years on average,
>> >> > 79.8 ye
> ars for males and 83.0 years for females, while the corresponding
> US number are lower 78.5 year on average, 76.3 years for males and
> 80.7 years for females. The UK NHS is Spartan, but it is
> universal.
>> >> >
>> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expec
>> >> > tancy
>
>> >> >
>> >> > The UK is 25th in the international ranking, and the US is
>> >> > 40th.
>> >>
>> >> Oooh! A whole 3 years extra living in a care home in misery
>> >> while the
> "NHS" takes your money and house so you can't pass it on to your
> children.
>> >
>> > The National Health Service doesn't take you money or your
>> > house, unlik
> e it's US equivalents, where getting sick is the most likely route
> to bankruptcy. Aged care homes aren't cheerful places, but good
> health care keeps you out of them for longer than bad and
> over-priced health care.
>>
>> WRONG. My grandmother was in a care home for 2-3 years and half
>> her house
> value was taken.
>
> But that wasn't done by the NHS. How you mother' care was paid for
> is something you haven't told us - you presumably don't know,
> since you think the NHS was involved.
>
>> >> >> The Tory government went all left wing and put more money
>> >> >> into the
> NHS during Covid.
>> >> >
>> >> > Better late than never. It makes lot more sense to set up a
>> >> > certain
> amount of excess capacity before you need it. Starting up
> something from scratch takes quite a bit longer than fleshing out
> an existing structure. As in the UK contact tracing debacle.
>> >>
>> >> The tories are supposed to be right wing, we didn't vote them
>> >> in to wa
> ste our money.
>> >
>> > You might not have been the only voter to support them - they
>> > did win t
> he election, which does imply support outside the lunatic right
> wing fringe.
>>
>> It doesn't imply it, as another option is 50% of people are in
>> the "sensi
> ble right fringe" while the other 50% are in the "theiving left
> fringe". Sometimes it's 51/49 one way, sometimes the other way.
>
> Nobody sensible would have voted for a party lead by Boris
> Johnson. His personality defects are well known.
>
>> >> >> Let Covid kill off the weak and useless. I've had no
>> >> >> vaccinations a
> nd never wear a mask and have been in close contact with many
> people. I'm still here.
>> >> >
>> >> > What a pity. You don't deserve to be.
>> >>
>> >> By who's ruling? God?
>> >
>> > Just my opinion. God - if he existed - could make the point
>> > more direct
> ly.
>>
>> Your opinion is wrong. Evolution must be allowed to take place.
>
> It is taking place - you wont wear a mask or get vaccinated.
> Human beings have been selected for resistance to infectious
> disease since started living in towns, but the selection is only
> effective when it takes out people who will go on to reproduce.
> Killing of the elderly - which is what Covid19 is best at isn't
> applying any direct selective pressure at all.
>
>> >> > and if you had caught the infection, not noticed,
>> >>
>> >> What, you mean it can actually be so mild it doesn't hurt? And
>> >> yet you
> still worry about it?!
>> >
>> > Something like 30% of Covid-19 infections are asymptomatic.
>> > It's higher
> if you have been vaccinated against it. And even without symptoms
> you can have a high enough viral load to infect other people. In
> fact the asmptomatic seem to have as high a viral load as people
> who go on to show symptoms.
>> >
>> > They don't have it for all that long, so it is worth getting
>> > vaccinated
> , and the vaccinated are less likely to get infected at all, so it
> pays off for everybody else as well
>>
>> The vaccinated are also less likely to have symptoms, as you just
>> pointed
> out, so more likely to pass it on unknowingly.
>
> Pretty much everybody passes it on unknowingly. You are infectious
> before you show symptoms, and because you haven't retreated to
> your bed at that point, you are a lot more likely to pass on the
> disease at that early stage.
>
>> Anyway, since the stats from a Canadian hospital through a
>> freedom of inf
> ormation request showed 83% of people admitted (so that's with
> serious symptoms) had been vaccinated, it's fucking useless.
>
> You didn't look at enough statistics, and probably didn't
> understand what you did look at. Vaccination does help a lot. It
> boosts your immune system, and the elderly immune system isn't up
> to much, so it doesn't stop elderly victims getting sick and
> dying, but fewer - even of them - get infected if they've been
> vaccinated or go on to need intensive care or end up dying.
>
>> >> > toughed it out, and infected a whole lot of other people
>> >> > (killing so
> me of them).
>> >>
>> >> It's called evolution. Live with it (or not).
>> >
>> > Nobody sane calls endangering other people "evolution".
>>
>> It's not endangering the tougher ones. If I drive dangerously, I
>> could ki
> ll anybody. If I cough over someone, I can only kill the weak,
> which is what evolution is all about.
>
> Evolution is about killing off people before they can reproduce.
> Covid-19 mostly kills of the elderly, who weren't going to
> reproduce.
>
>> >> > you would still be posting the same dangerous nonsense.
>> >>
>> >> Dangerous ROTFPMSL! I bet you wear a seatbelt too, just in
>> >> case. You w
> ere beaten up at school weren't you?
>> >
>> > Even if you are too stupid to realise how much of a menace you
>> > are, you
> are still a menace.
>>
>> I was a menace at school. I wonder if you were one of the poor
>> little "vi
> ctims"?
>
> Far from it. I was a menace to people like you, because I could
> and did hit back, but most of the time I was bookish,
> short-sighted and friendly kid with a thoroughly nasty straight
> right (which I didn't like using because the target's teeth tended
> to graze my knuckles).
>
>> > I wear a seat-belt when I'm in a car. I've not had any
>> > advantage from i
> t yet, but that doesn't mean that it is a bad idea.
>>
>> Yes it does. It means every single time you put it on you were
>> wasting yo
> ur time.
>
> But the payoff when you needed to do it can be remarkably large.
> Your problem is simple stupidity.
>
>> > I didn't get beaten up at school - I got taught to box at an
>> > early age,
>>
>> Ah, the weak ones always take up karate etc to make up for being
>> inferior
> .
>
> I didn't take it up. One of our neighbours used to shadow box with
> me when I was very young, and the habits he inculcated stuck. I
> did find it a bit odd when I found out that I knew the moves when
> I needed them, but it did prove very handy. I've always had
> relatively quick response times, which may have helped.
>
>> > and nobody started in on that that twice. We did discourage a
>> > few peopl
> e who had ambitions in that direction - we didn't do enough damage
> to give the teachers anything to notice, but the discouragement
> was effective.
>>
>> I hospitalised someone. He didn't grass.
>
> He should have done. Group loyalty is one thing, but your putting
> a kid into hospital means that you should have got treatment - not
> that the kind of psychopath you seem to be is all that susceptible
> to treatment.

"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in
news:op.1j27pmwgmvhs6z@ryzen.lan:

>
> So you admit that after you get symptoms you can pass it on, we're
> getting there. Now consider your vaccination is hiding those
> symptoms from you.
>

You are fucking retarded. You CAN pass it even BEFORE you express
ANY symptoms, you stupid fuck. You certainly can after you express
symptoms.

And being vaccinated does not hide anything, you fucking idiot.

A vaccinated person should still wear a mask. The entire planet
should and that is waht idiots like you don't get. The mask is NOT
to protect the wearer from others. It is to protect others from the
wearer.

You have the logic of a failed president. Essentially NIL.
That coupled with your inane stupidity actually makes you a danger,
not only when you open your mouth, but in your case, when you make
utterances from it. They should put idiots like you in a rubber
room.
Then remove the Oxygen from it and video how long it takes you to beg
for air.

On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 14:21:58 +0100, Clive Arthur
<clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:

>On 29/03/2022 18:56, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> If I was a Russian I'd stand by Putin.  What's wrong with taking back a
>> nation that once belonged to you, one full of such rich resources?
>
>My Sister might know, she lives in Anchorage. Alaska and see what she
>thinks.

The USA did buy Alaska from the Russians for $7M.

What's wrong with taking it back is pretty obvious.

I wouldn't want to stand by Putin. It doesn't sound healthy.

I had a girlfriend in Juneau, when I lived in New Orleans. It was one
of those relationships where only the airlines come out ahead.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 22:44:28 +0100, John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" wrote:
>
>> War crimes are what the west is doing to Russian civilians. Do you
>> seriously think it's ok to make their food cost 3 times as much? If you
>> want to get involved in a war which is none of your business, attack the
>> Russian MILITARY.
>
> There is a resemblance to terrorism. That's what combatants do when they
> cannot strike at the military, they go for soft targets. They are too
> scared to attack Russia directly (for good reason), so they are hitting
> soft targets with sanctions.
>
> If they continue arming Ukraine, Russia will tear up ALL of Ukraine's
> railroad tracks. Ukraine's massive wheat exports will disappear
> (apparently they are almost gone already). That will cause European food
> prices to skyrocket.
>
> The sanctions zealots are hurting everybody.
>
> Killing 500,000 Iraqi children with sanctions is "worth it" according to
> Madeleine Albright...
>
> https://youtu.be/RM0uvgHKZe8

Indeed.

On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 15:41:00 +0100, Idiot <idiot@example.invalid> wrote:

> John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:
>> This thread is officially closed.
>>
>> No further posting is allowed.
>>
>> Please adjust your newsreaders accordingly.
>
> Idiot.
>
> This is Usenet, you don't get to declare a thread closed.

Anybody can declare anything, but we're free to ignore/abuse/pillage/rape them.