aaj subH main ne Zoom par ek mushaira sunaa jis meN Zehra Nigah, IftiKhar Arif, Anwar Sha'ur jaise kaii naamvar sho'raa ke saath saath hamaare dost Amjad Islam Amjad aur Khushbir Singh Shaad sahibaan ne bhi shirkat kii. phir merii Amjad sahib se baat ho rahii thii to unhoN ne mujhe apni ek aur bilkul taazah ghazal sunaaii. us ghazal ke chand asha'ar:

jaane us paar ka manzar kyaa hai
dasht hai yaa k samandar, kyaa hai

khiRkiyaN band kiye baiThhe haiN
nahiN ma'luum k baahar kyaa hai

dekhna yeh hai pas-e-husn-e-bayaaN
aap kii baat ke andar kyaa hai

husn to husn rahe gaa phir bhii
jo voh haT jaaye to zevar kyaa hai!

jis dua' meN nahiiN shaamil dil bhii
laakh ho jaaye voh azbar kyaa hai

har amal kaa hai agar rad-e-amal
koi batlaaye muqaddar kyaa hai?

Amjad Islam Amjad

______Zoya

kal meri Khushbir Singh Shaad sahib se baat ho rahi thii to phone rakhne se pehle maiN ne hamesha ki tarah un se apnaa koii sh'er sunaane ki farmaish kii. Shaad sahib ne chaar asha'ar mujhe sunnaye, jo mujhe bahut pasand aaye aur mere liye naye bhi haiN. soch rahi huuN k asha'ar aap sab dostoN ko bhii sunaati chaluuN.

aaj kaa she'r:

maiN har taraf se kinaaraa huN is samandar kaa
huaa hai ban ke jaziiraa yeh martabaa Haasil

More to follow,

______Zoya

> maiN har taraf se kinaaraa huN is samandar kaa
> huaa hai ban ke jaziiraa yeh martabaa Haasil

isii baHr meN duusraa she'r:

tujhe hai tark-e-ta'aluq ki itni jaldii kyuuN
yeh kaam ho bhi saktaa hai itminaan ke saath _____ Khushbir Singh Shaad

On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 7:52:08 AM UTC-7, Zoya wrote:
> > maiN har taraf se kinaaraa huN is samandar kaa
> > huaa hai ban ke jaziiraa yeh martabaa Haasil

> isii baHr meN duusraa she'r:
>
> tujhe hai tark-e-ta'aluq ki itni jaldii kyuuN
> yeh kaam ho bhi saktaa hai itminaan ke saath _____ Khushbir Singh Shaad

***It may be a typo but --- ta'aluq should be ta'alluq.
More importantly, the second misr'a is out-of-meter.

R.K.***

On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 9:59:53 AM UTC-5, Raj Kumar wrote:

> ***It may be a typo but --- ta'aluq should be ta'alluq.
> More importantly, the second misr'a is out-of-meter.
>
> R.K.***

Thanks Prof RK, absolutely. Of course it is ta'alluq, always.

I jotted down the asha'ar quickly as Shaad sahib was reciting them. I myself realized something was off with the second misra after posting it this morning, not an excuse just a confession. I believe there was perhaps a 'to' somewhere that I missed, or something else like that.

I can manipulate the second misra and try to put it in baHr. But I am going with a better option, I have sent a text message to Shaad sahib and asked him for the correct version. I will definitely share it when I hear back from him.

I have two more asha'ar left in this sequence, and will double check the 'taqti' before posting those. My skills may be getting a bit rusty, and need your prodding every so often. :)

Thanks again, have a great rest of the day.

More to come,

_______Zoya

All right Prof RK, I'm back, and with a totally unexpected response! :)

After I asked Shaad sahib for the correct version of the second misra of the she'r we were talking about, he told me that on second thoughts, he had decided to change it completely and gave me the modified version. And modified it surely is!

to pesh hai kal kaa she'r, ek nayi shakl meN:

tujhe hai tark-e-ta'aluq ki itni jaldii kyuN
ham is jashn manayeN ge aan baan ke saath!

Now it sounds like what I call 'my kind of she'r'. :-)

Bonus:

is she'r ko sunte hii maiN ne Shaad sahib se kahaa k mujhe ek nazm hamesha se pasand rahi hai:

"aayo k jashn-e-marg-e-muhabbat manaayeN ham"

unhoN ne bhi fauran duusra misra' sunaa diyaa:

"aur apna apna a'hd-e-vafaa bhuul jaayeN ham" :)

Bonus 2:

Shaad sahib burst out laughing when I told him that I had once actually attended a 'divorce party' for a couple who decided that it was time to celebrate, the mourning had happened during the marriage!

You see Prof RK, this ended up being a lot more fun than expected. Glad you asked the baHr question. :-))

________Zoya

All right Prof RK, I'm back, and with a totally unexpected response! :)

After I asked Shaad sahib for the correct version of the second misra of the she'r we were talking about, he told me that on second thoughts, he had decided to change it completely and gave me the modified version. And modified it surely is!

to pesh hai kal kaa she'r, ek nayi shakl meN:

tujhe hai tark-e-ta'alluq ki itni jaldii kyuN
ham is jashn manayeN ge aan baan ke saath!

Now it sounds like what I call 'my kind of she'r'. :-)

Bonus:

is she'r ko sunte hii maiN ne Shaad sahib se kahaa k mujhe ek nazm hamesha se pasand rahi hai:

"aayo k jashn-e-marg-e-muhabbat manaayeN ham"

unhoN ne bhi fauran duusra misra' sunaa diyaa:

"aur apna apna a'hd-e-vafaa bhuul jaayeN ham" :)

Bonus 2:

Shaad sahib burst out laughing when I told him that I had once actually attended a 'divorce party' for a couple who decided that it was time to celebrate, the mourning had happened during the marriage!

You see Prof RK, this ended up being a lot more fun than expected. Glad you asked the baHr question. :-))

________Zoya

All right Prof RK, I'm back, and with a totally unexpected response! :)

After I asked Shaad sahib for the correct version of the second misra of the she'r we were talking about, he told me that on second thoughts, he had decided to change it completely and gave me the modified version. And modified it surely is!

to pesh hai kal kaa she'r, ek nayi shakl meN:

tujhe hai tark-e-ta'alluq ki itni jaldii kyuN
ham is ka jashn manayeN ge aan baan ke saath!

Now it sounds like what I call 'my kind of she'r'. :-)

Bonus:

is she'r ko sunte hii maiN ne Shaad sahib se kahaa k mujhe ek nazm hamesha se pasand rahi hai:

"aayo k jashn-e-marg-e-muhabbat manaayeN ham"

unhoN ne bhi fauran duusra misra' sunaa diyaa:

"aur apna apna a'hd-e-vafaa bhuul jaayeN ham" :)

Bonus 2:

Shaad sahib burst out laughing when I told him that I had once actually attended a 'divorce party' for a couple who decided that it was time to celebrate, the mourning had happened during the marriage!

You see Prof RK, this ended up being a lot more fun than expected. Glad you asked the baHr question. :-))

________Zoya

On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 2:05:34 PM UTC-7, Zoya wrote:
>
> tujhe hai tark-e-ta'alluq ki itni jaldii kyuN
> ham is ka jashn manayeN ge aan baan ke saath!
>
> Now it sounds like what I call 'my kind of she'r'. :-)
***And here is my kind of she'r:

agarche tark-e-ta'alluq ko ik zamaana hu'aa
Firaaq karti rahii kaam voh nazar phir bhii

R.K.***

On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 5:06:27 PM UTC-5, Raj Kumar wrote:

> ***And here is my kind of she'r:
>
> agarche tark-e-ta'alluq ko ik zamaana hu'aa
> Firaaq karti rahii kaam voh nazar phir bhii
>
> R.K.***

Yup:

voh duur ho to bajaa tark-e-dosti kaa Khayaal
voh saamne ho to kab iKhtiyaar apna hai! :-)

On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 3:18:45 PM UTC-7, Zoya wrote:
> On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 5:06:27 PM UTC-5, Raj Kumar wrote:
>
> > ***And here is my kind of she'r:
> >
> > agarche tark-e-ta'alluq ko ik zamaana hu'aa
> > Firaaq karti rahii kaam voh nazar phir bhii
> >
> > R.K.***
> Yup:
>
> voh duur ho to bajaa tark-e-dosti kaa Khayaal
> voh saamne ho to kab iKhtiyaar apna hai! :-)

-----------

***ham us ki yaad meN ghulte raheN, yeh taab kahaaN?
ham us ko dil se bhulaa deN, yeh Hausala bhi nahiiN!
[RK Qais]***

> ***ham us ki yaad meN ghulte raheN, yeh taab kahaaN?
> ham us ko dil se bhulaa deN, yeh Hausala bhi nahiiN!
> [RK Qais]***

Circling back to Firaaq:

ek muddat se tirii yaad bhi aaii na hameN
aur ham bhuul gaye hoN tujhe, aisaa bhi nahiiN

On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 8:21:00 AM UTC+5:30, Zoya wrote:
> > ***ham us ki yaad meN ghulte raheN, yeh taab kahaaN?
> > ham us ko dil se bhulaa deN, yeh Hausala bhi nahiiN!
> > [RK Qais]***
> Circling back to Firaaq:
>
> ek muddat se tirii yaad bhi aaii na hameN
> aur ham bhuul gaye hoN tujhe, aisaa bhi nahiiN

tum muKhaatib bhi ho, qariib bhi ho
tum ko dekheN ke tum se baat kareN - Firaq

On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 11:18:59 PM UTC-5, Mohit wrote:

> tum muKhaatib bhi ho, qariib bhi ho
> tum ko dekheN ke tum se baat kareN - Firaq

Mohit, this was probably the very first Firaq she'r I had ever heard/read, a timeless classic.

Also Firaq:

aaNkhoN meN jo baat ho gaii hai
ik sharH-e-Hayaat ho gaii hai

No need to talk. :)

On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 3:02:37 PM UTC-7, Zoya wrote:
> On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 11:18:59 PM UTC-5, Mohit wrote:
>
> > tum muKhaatib bhi ho, qariib bhi ho
> > tum ko dekheN ke tum se baat kareN - Firaq
> Mohit, this was probably the very first Firaq she'r I had ever heard/read, a timeless classic.
>
> Also Firaq:
>
> aaNkhoN meN jo baat ho gaii hai
> ik sharH-e-Hayaat ho gaii hai
>
> No need to talk. :)

***muddat se Khabar milii na dil kii
shaayad ko'i baat ho ga'ii hai***

On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 7:10:02 PM UTC-5, Raj Kumar wrote:

> ***muddat se Khabar milii na dil kii
> shaayad ko'i baat ho ga'ii hai***

dil gayaa, tum ne liyaa ham kyaa kareN
jaane vaalii chiiz kaa gham kyaa kareN!

aaj kaa she'r:

raat gaye yaadoN ke jangal meN diivaalii hotii hai
diip jalaane aa jaate haiN bhuule bisre pyaare log

Wishing everyone a joyous and bright Diwali. May good conquer the evil, within us and outside.

On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 7:56:25 AM UTC-4, Zoya wrote:
> aaj kaa she'r:
>
> raat gaye yaadoN ke jangal meN diivaalii hotii hai
> diip jalaane aa jaate haiN bhuule bisre pyaare log
>
> Wishing everyone a joyous and bright Diwali. May good conquer the evil, within us and outside.

“duniya bhar ki yaadeN hamse milne aatii haiN
shaam Dhale is suune ghar meN melaa lagtaa hai!”
~ Qaisar-ul-Jaafri
======================

and my wishes for Diwali

har ek ghar mein diya bhi jale anaaj bhi ho,
agar na ho kaheeN aisa to ehtjaaj bhi ho... - Nida

On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 10:20:14 PM UTC-5, Mohit wrote:

> har ek ghar mein diya bhi jale anaaj bhi ho,
> agar na ho kaheeN aisa to ehtjaaj bhi ho... - Nida

mumkin hai raah_giiroN ko rastaa dikhaai de
ham ne diyaa jalaa ke andhere meN rakh diyaa --- Atul Ajnabi

jinheN ham dekh kar jiite the 'Nasir'
voh log aaNkhoN se ojhal ho gaye haiN

On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 2:21:46 PM UTC-8, Zoya wrote:
> jinheN ham dekh kar jiite the 'Nasir'
> voh log aaNkhoN se ojhal ho gaye haiN

***
maiN zaraa aaNkh se ojhal huuN magar huuN to sahii
de ke aavaaz kisii vaqt bulaa lo mujh ko
[R K Qais]

On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 9:38:26 PM UTC-6, Raj Kumar wrote:

> maiN zaraa aaNkh se ojhal huuN magar huuN to sahii
> de ke aavaaz kisii vaqt bulaa lo mujh ko
> [R K Qais]

kaash tuu bhii miri aavaaz kahiiN suntaa ho
phir pukaaraa hai tujhe dil ki sadaa ne mere

On Thursday, 16 September 2021 at 01:58:42 UTC+1, Raj Kumar wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 8:27:42 AM UTC-7, Naseer wrote:

> > By the way, Raj Kumar SaaHib, is the word as you wrote it "fil-badii'a" or "fi_lbadiiha(h)". In other words....فی البدیع or فی البدیہ , the latter normally written as فی البدیہہ?
> ***is mu'aamale ki chhaan-been bhi zaruur kii jaaye gi, aap zaraa Hausala rakhiye.
>
> Raj Kumar***

jnaab-i-Raj Kumar SaaHib aadaab.

kab tak aap mere hausale ko aazmaa'eN ge?:-)

Naseer

On Tuesday, 7 September 2021 at 23:41:53 UTC+1, Raj Kumar wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 12:39:20 AM UTC-7, Naseer wrote:

> It's rather ironic that we had a discussion on a similar sounding word "sarhaanaa" / "sarhaane"
> ***Frankly, I don't remember if we ever had a discussion on the word sarhaanaa/sarhaane.
> haaN, aek baar lafz sirhaanaa/sirhaane par thoRi-bahut baHs zaruur hu'ii thii. LOL
>
> Raj Kumar***

muHtaram Raj Kumar aadaab

ek misra3 mulaaHi/azah farmaa'iye.

saHar-dam kaun yih mere sarhaane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tWnGN_tcLk&ab_channel=BroadcastImaging (at 4:12)

lagtaa hai kih Sultanpur (UP) vaale "sarhaanaa/sarhaane" hii kahte haiN!

Naseer