Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote in
news:2m9k2h59d5kq0m3ipjut5pev268bgrh0cb@4ax.com:

> Makes me wonder to what extent invading Ukraine (and seizing the
> Crimea before that) was intended to distract from pressing local
> problems. Problems no doubt exacerbated by the sanctions.
>
That is a time honored tradition.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote in
news:st9k2hp400m7aipk3b9uv09gjt839jgtkc@4ax.com:

> Even with a democracy they would not get friendly neighbors
> without mending their behavior. And removing
> structurally-embedded prejudice is difficult, as we are finding
> out ourselves.

Especially when you're trying to replace it with even more egregious
prejudice for purposes of personal gain.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote in
news:25qWJ.126713$aT3.120183@fx09.iad:

> Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> writes:
>>On Wed, 09 Mar 2022 17:55:34 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott
>>Lurndal)
>
>>>Since the end of the cold war, the following countries have
>>>acceeded to NATO voluntarily:
>>>
>>>1997 Czech Republic
>>>1997 Poland
>>>2003 Bulgaria
>>>2003 Estonia
>>>2003 Latvia
>>>2003 Lithuania
>>>2003 Romania
>>>2003 Slovak Republic
>>>2003 Slovenia
>>>2009 Albania
>>>2009 Croatia
>>>2016 Montenegro
>>>2019 North Macedonia
>>
>>I think you mean "chose to join NATO".
>
> Do look up the word 'accession'.
>
Perhaps you should, as well:

ac�ces�sion
/ak'seSH?n/
Learn to pronounce
noun
1. the attainment or acquisition of a position of rank or power,
typically that of monarch or president.
"the Queen's accession to the throne"

Similar:
succession
elevation
assumption of
attainment of
inheritance of

2. a new item added to an existing collection of books, paintings,
or artifacts.

"the day-to-day work of cataloguing new accessions"
Similar:
addition
acquisition
new item
gift
purchase
adjunct
add-on

None of those countries rule NATO, and none own it.

Dumbass.

You'd have done better to recommend looking up the word
"voluntary."

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 01:45:38 -0600, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 3/9/2022 9:49 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:t08vsj$t1s$4@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 3/8/2022 10:46 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 15:02:02 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
>>>> <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:43:24 AM UTC-7, Paul S Person
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> And, since Trump is a Putin sock puppet, those calling Putin
>>>>>> "fascist" are saying the Republican Party is /still/ the
>>>>>> Party of Hitler. But I am not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Putin's the Hitler. Trump is only the Mussolini. Or maybe even
>>>>> the Franco.
>>>>
>>>> Well, Trump was as funny as Mussolini. That is, both were jokes
>>>> as leaders go.
>>>>
>>>>> Trump as Franco - that would be a plus. That would mean that
>>>>> while Xi and Putin were carving up the world, the U.S. would
>>>>> actually decline to invade Canada.
>>>
>>> Dude, you really have a bad case of TDS. Have you thought about
>>> taking anything for it ?
>>>
>> Perhaps it's being caused by what he's taking. Maybe something like
>> LSD, or some sort of muchroom.
>
>I do know this, many of the socalled experts think that the USA will
>park all of the carriers before 2030 due to our inability to run a
>budget without a two trillion dollar deficit. They think that we will
>sacrifice the DOD to pay for Social Security and Medicare. So, we will
>not be able to project any power beyond our shores.

Many so-called "experts" cannot conceive of the concept of
"Republicans win".

On 2022-03-09 11:45 p.m., Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 3/9/2022 9:49 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:t08vsj$t1s$4@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 3/8/2022 10:46 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 15:02:02 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
>>>> <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:43:24 AM UTC-7, Paul S Person
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> And, since Trump is a Putin sock puppet, those calling Putin
>>>>>> "fascist" are saying the Republican Party is /still/ the
>>>>>> Party of Hitler. But I am not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Putin's the Hitler. Trump is only the Mussolini. Or maybe even
>>>>> the Franco.
>>>>
>>>> Well, Trump was as funny as Mussolini. That is, both were jokes
>>>> as leaders go.
>>>>
>>>>> Trump as Franco - that would be a plus. That would mean that
>>>>> while Xi and Putin were carving up the world, the U.S. would
>>>>> actually decline to invade Canada.
>>>
>>> Dude, you really have a bad case of TDS.  Have you thought about
>>> taking anything for it ?
>>>
>> Perhaps it's being caused by what he's taking. Maybe something like
>> LSD, or some sort of muchroom.
>
> I do know this, many of the socalled experts think that the USA will
> park all of the carriers before 2030 due to our inability to run a
> budget without a two trillion dollar deficit.  They think that we will
> sacrifice the DOD to pay for Social Security and Medicare.  So, we will
> not be able to project any power beyond our shores.
>
> Lynn
>

Why is it you right wing-nuts only care about deficits when a Republican
isn't president.

On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 06:36:50 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
<jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 12:45:45 AM UTC-7, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>
>> I do know this, many of the socalled experts think that the USA will
>> park all of the carriers before 2030 due to our inability to run a
>> budget without a two trillion dollar deficit. They think that we will
>> sacrifice the DOD to pay for Social Security and Medicare. So, we will
>> not be able to project any power beyond our shores.
>
>The United States is perfectly capable of having a balanced budget
>while keeping Social Security and other social programs. It is only political
>obstructionists who make it difficult to raise taxes to the level required to
>cover government spending.

It is The People who are sick of the government having its hand in
their pockets who make it difficult to raise taxes. It's called
"democracy", something you claim to support while arguing that it
should actually be a totalitarian dictatorship with you at the top.

>Of course, the U.S. defense budget should not be paid for by U.S. taxpayers.
>It is countries like Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia and China that have made it
>necessary to _have_ one, so clearly the U.S. is owed quite a bit of money by
>those countries.

You're describing something called a "collection racket". Do you
_really_ want the US to go there? How much tribute would Canada be
paying? How would that affect _your_ taxes?

>At present, getting Russia and China to pay their share, of course, looks
>somewhat more impractical than getting Mexico to pay for a border wall.
>But someday that will change.

When China's on top do you expect to pay tribute to _them_?

On 2022-03-10 9:34 a.m., J. Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 01:45:38 -0600, Lynn McGuire
> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 3/9/2022 9:49 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:t08vsj$t1s$4@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 3/8/2022 10:46 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 15:02:02 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
>>>>> <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:43:24 AM UTC-7, Paul S Person
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And, since Trump is a Putin sock puppet, those calling Putin
>>>>>>> "fascist" are saying the Republican Party is /still/ the
>>>>>>> Party of Hitler. But I am not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Putin's the Hitler. Trump is only the Mussolini. Or maybe even
>>>>>> the Franco.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, Trump was as funny as Mussolini. That is, both were jokes
>>>>> as leaders go.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump as Franco - that would be a plus. That would mean that
>>>>>> while Xi and Putin were carving up the world, the U.S. would
>>>>>> actually decline to invade Canada.
>>>>
>>>> Dude, you really have a bad case of TDS. Have you thought about
>>>> taking anything for it ?
>>>>
>>> Perhaps it's being caused by what he's taking. Maybe something like
>>> LSD, or some sort of muchroom.
>>
>> I do know this, many of the socalled experts think that the USA will
>> park all of the carriers before 2030 due to our inability to run a
>> budget without a two trillion dollar deficit. They think that we will
>> sacrifice the DOD to pay for Social Security and Medicare. So, we will
>> not be able to project any power beyond our shores.
>
> Many so-called "experts" cannot conceive of the concept of
> "Republicans win".

Certainly "Republicans fail to examine the facts" is something you
cannot conceive of.

Look at the relationship between prosperity in the US and which party
was in power.

On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 06:40:53 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
<jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 12:54:34 AM UTC-7, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>
>> Not really.
>
>Surely you realize that Terry Austin is not a credible source.
>
>Nuke brown people?
>
>Certainly I support America against terrorism, and Israel against its
>enemies. And the Coptic Christians against persecution in Egypt.
>
>How the Coptic Christians are treated in Egypt shows what the Jews
>of Israel could expect under Arab rule - at best - and explains why a
>"one-state solution" is completely untenable.
>
>After 9/11, I believe that allowing _any_ Muslim country to deny total
>First Amendment-level equality to non-Muslims is to allow the mindset
>that leads to terrorism to grow and fester.

But it's OK for a Jewish country to do that to non-Jews?

>So my wrath is directed at evil people who persecute minorities,
>and do aggression against allies of the United States.

Even if those aggressors are trying to combat US persecution of
minorities?

Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> writes:
>scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote in
>news:25qWJ.126713$aT3.120183@fx09.iad:
>
>> Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> writes:
>>>On Wed, 09 Mar 2022 17:55:34 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott
>>>Lurndal)
>>
>>>>Since the end of the cold war, the following countries have
>>>>acceeded to NATO voluntarily:
>>>>
>>>>1997 Czech Republic
>>>>1997 Poland
>>>>2003 Bulgaria
>>>>2003 Estonia
>>>>2003 Latvia
>>>>2003 Lithuania
>>>>2003 Romania
>>>>2003 Slovak Republic
>>>>2003 Slovenia
>>>>2009 Albania
>>>>2009 Croatia
>>>>2016 Montenegro
>>>>2019 North Macedonia
>>>
>>>I think you mean "chose to join NATO".
>>
>> Do look up the word 'accession'.
>>
>Perhaps you should, as well:
>
>ac�ces�sion

"Protocol to the North Atlantic Treaty on the Accession of the Czech Republic"

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/official_texts_25432.htm

On 2022-03-10 9:47 a.m., Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> writes:
>> scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote in
>> news:25qWJ.126713$aT3.120183@fx09.iad:
>>
>>> Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> writes:
>>>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2022 17:55:34 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott
>>>> Lurndal)
>>>
>>>>> Since the end of the cold war, the following countries have
>>>>> acceeded to NATO voluntarily:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1997 Czech Republic
>>>>> 1997 Poland
>>>>> 2003 Bulgaria
>>>>> 2003 Estonia
>>>>> 2003 Latvia
>>>>> 2003 Lithuania
>>>>> 2003 Romania
>>>>> 2003 Slovak Republic
>>>>> 2003 Slovenia
>>>>> 2009 Albania
>>>>> 2009 Croatia
>>>>> 2016 Montenegro
>>>>> 2019 North Macedonia
>>>>
>>>> I think you mean "chose to join NATO".
>>>
>>> Do look up the word 'accession'.
>>>
>> Perhaps you should, as well:
>>
>> ac·ces·sion
>
> "Protocol to the North Atlantic Treaty on the Accession of the Czech Republic"
>
> https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/official_texts_25432.htm
>

Terry isn't terribly (at all) interested in facts.

J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in
news:njdk2hdupos5se1mdkmq2cfla0blugm1h3@4ax.com:

> On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 01:45:38 -0600, Lynn McGuire
> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 3/9/2022 9:49 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:t08vsj$t1s$4@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 3/8/2022 10:46 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 15:02:02 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
>>>>> <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:43:24 AM UTC-7, Paul S Person
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And, since Trump is a Putin sock puppet, those calling
>>>>>>> Putin "fascist" are saying the Republican Party is /still/
>>>>>>> the Party of Hitler. But I am not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Putin's the Hitler. Trump is only the Mussolini. Or maybe
>>>>>> even the Franco.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, Trump was as funny as Mussolini. That is, both were
>>>>> jokes as leaders go.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump as Franco - that would be a plus. That would mean
>>>>>> that while Xi and Putin were carving up the world, the U.S.
>>>>>> would actually decline to invade Canada.
>>>>
>>>> Dude, you really have a bad case of TDS. Have you thought
>>>> about taking anything for it ?
>>>>
>>> Perhaps it's being caused by what he's taking. Maybe something
>>> like LSD, or some sort of muchroom.
>>
>>I do know this, many of the socalled experts think that the USA
>>will park all of the carriers before 2030 due to our inability
>>to run a budget without a two trillion dollar deficit. They
>>think that we will sacrifice the DOD to pay for Social Security
>>and Medicare. So, we will not be able to project any power
>>beyond our shores.
>
> Many so-called "experts" cannot conceive of the concept of
> "Republicans win".
>
They broke when Queen Hillary was denied her god-given right to
govern over us lesser subraces.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote in
news:HQqWJ.126728$aT3.61919@fx09.iad:

> Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> writes:
>>scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote in
>>news:25qWJ.126713$aT3.120183@fx09.iad:
>>
>>> Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> writes:
>>>>On Wed, 09 Mar 2022 17:55:34 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott
>>>>Lurndal)
>>>
>>>>>Since the end of the cold war, the following countries have
>>>>>acceeded to NATO voluntarily:
>>>>>
>>>>>1997 Czech Republic
>>>>>1997 Poland
>>>>>2003 Bulgaria
>>>>>2003 Estonia
>>>>>2003 Latvia
>>>>>2003 Lithuania
>>>>>2003 Romania
>>>>>2003 Slovak Republic
>>>>>2003 Slovenia
>>>>>2009 Albania
>>>>>2009 Croatia
>>>>>2016 Montenegro
>>>>>2019 North Macedonia
>>>>
>>>>I think you mean "chose to join NATO".
>>>
>>> Do look up the word 'accession'.
>>>
>>Perhaps you should, as well:
>>
>>ac�ces�sion
>
> "Protocol to the North Atlantic Treaty on the Accession of the
> Czech Republic"
>
> https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/official_texts_25432.htm
>
So your excuse is that you're only quoting other people who don't
know what the word means either?

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 12:07:21 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 07:35:07 -0800 (PST), Ross Presser
> <rpre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 6:49:17 PM UTC-5, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 5:02:26 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
> >> >
> >> > So basically the Russians managed to test some object about which
> >> > they are making outlandish claims. So how does it find its target
> >> > through that "plasma sheath" that somehow makes it "invisible" while
> >> > lighting up half the universe? Just for openers.
> >> They are hitting targets at hundreds of miles range, so they've solved
> >> the problem. How, I don't know.
> >
> >The plasma sheath defeats active radar. It does nothing in most
> >wavelengths. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_stealth
> >
> >The wikipedia article implies that its design targets are large, like
> >aircraft carriers. Hitting an aircraft carrier *anywhere* at high Mach
> >is just as good as precisely hitting the bridge or whatever.
>
> That plasma sheath is very hot, it's going to stick out like a sore
> thumb on infrared. Radar is not the only kind of sensor that exists.
> And if the thing is going fast enough it will be so bright that it is
> naked-eye visible from space.

Stipulated. But I was trying to clarify the use of "invisible". A radar
system is not going to show a missile that is wrapped in a plasma
sheath due to supersonic travel; at those speeds the missile only
needs 10 seconds to travel from a "safe distance" to target; and
**if** radar is your only active early warning system, then some
of those 10 seconds are wasted in reaction time.

On 3/10/2022 9:50 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:t0cab4$c1v$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 3/9/2022 9:49 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:t08vsj$t1s$4@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 3/8/2022 10:46 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 15:02:02 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
>>>>> <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:43:24 AM UTC-7, Paul S Person
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And, since Trump is a Putin sock puppet, those calling
>>>>>>> Putin "fascist" are saying the Republican Party is /still/
>>>>>>> the Party of Hitler. But I am not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Putin's the Hitler. Trump is only the Mussolini. Or maybe
>>>>>> even the Franco.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, Trump was as funny as Mussolini. That is, both were
>>>>> jokes as leaders go.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump as Franco - that would be a plus. That would mean that
>>>>>> while Xi and Putin were carving up the world, the U.S. would
>>>>>> actually decline to invade Canada.
>>>>
>>>> Dude, you really have a bad case of TDS. Have you thought
>>>> about taking anything for it ?
>>>>
>>> Perhaps it's being caused by what he's taking. Maybe something
>>> like LSD, or some sort of muchroom.
>>
>> I do know this, many of the socalled experts think that the USA
>> will park all of the carriers before 2030 due to our inability
>> to run a budget without a two trillion dollar deficit. They
>> think that we will sacrifice the DOD to pay for Social Security
>> and Medicare. So, we will not be able to project any power
>> beyond our shores.
>>
> It's possible. It's also possible we'll sacrifice old people. One
> never knows what politicians will do, often even after they've done
> it.

I do know that a lot of older people just died in the USA from the Koof.
I wonder if that will affect our Social Security and Medicare expenses ?

Lynn

On 3/10/2022 11:26 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:njdk2hdupos5se1mdkmq2cfla0blugm1h3@4ax.com:
>
>> On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 01:45:38 -0600, Lynn McGuire
>> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/9/2022 9:49 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:t08vsj$t1s$4@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/8/2022 10:46 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 15:02:02 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
>>>>>> <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:43:24 AM UTC-7, Paul S Person
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And, since Trump is a Putin sock puppet, those calling
>>>>>>>> Putin "fascist" are saying the Republican Party is /still/
>>>>>>>> the Party of Hitler. But I am not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Putin's the Hitler. Trump is only the Mussolini. Or maybe
>>>>>>> even the Franco.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, Trump was as funny as Mussolini. That is, both were
>>>>>> jokes as leaders go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump as Franco - that would be a plus. That would mean
>>>>>>> that while Xi and Putin were carving up the world, the U.S.
>>>>>>> would actually decline to invade Canada.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dude, you really have a bad case of TDS. Have you thought
>>>>> about taking anything for it ?
>>>>>
>>>> Perhaps it's being caused by what he's taking. Maybe something
>>>> like LSD, or some sort of muchroom.
>>>
>>> I do know this, many of the socalled experts think that the USA
>>> will park all of the carriers before 2030 due to our inability
>>> to run a budget without a two trillion dollar deficit. They
>>> think that we will sacrifice the DOD to pay for Social Security
>>> and Medicare. So, we will not be able to project any power
>>> beyond our shores.
>>
>> Many so-called "experts" cannot conceive of the concept of
>> "Republicans win".
>>
> They broke when Queen Hillary was denied her god-given right to
> govern over us lesser subraces.

She may run again in 2024.

Lynn

On 3/10/2022 9:47 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:t0carm$osf$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 3/10/2022 12:57 AM, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:t0bioi$o0n$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 3/9/2022 4:22 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:t0at76$cgt$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/9/2022 10:00 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:8a06a2a8-7424-4928-995d-cb4e572e8faen@googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) Although not actively engaged in hostilities, *we are
>>>>>>>> at war*. That is the first thing to remember.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ukraine is at war. The US and Canada are not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You've really lost yoru shit, son. You need help.
>>>>>>> Seriously.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John wants the USA to be what we are continuously accused of
>>>>>> being, the world's policeman.
>>>>>
>>>>> What he really wants is a) to nuke brown people, and b) girls
>>>>> who will let him touch their boobies without screaming in
>>>>> terror. Sadly, for him, neither is likely to ever happen.
>>>>
>>>> Wow, that is sad. My maternal grandmother was light brown
>>>> with very black eyes.
>>>>
>>> You weren't aware of that already?
>>
>> Not really.
>>
> What Usenet have you been reading for the last couple of decades?

I try to ignore the crazies.

Lynn

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
news:t0dse9$e1t$3@dont-email.me:

> On 3/10/2022 11:26 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:njdk2hdupos5se1mdkmq2cfla0blugm1h3@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 01:45:38 -0600, Lynn McGuire
>>> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/9/2022 9:49 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:t08vsj$t1s$4@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/8/2022 10:46 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 15:02:02 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
>>>>>>> <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:43:24 AM UTC-7, Paul S
>>>>>>>> Person wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And, since Trump is a Putin sock puppet, those calling
>>>>>>>>> Putin "fascist" are saying the Republican Party is
>>>>>>>>> /still/ the Party of Hitler. But I am not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Putin's the Hitler. Trump is only the Mussolini. Or maybe
>>>>>>>> even the Franco.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, Trump was as funny as Mussolini. That is, both were
>>>>>>> jokes as leaders go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trump as Franco - that would be a plus. That would mean
>>>>>>>> that while Xi and Putin were carving up the world, the
>>>>>>>> U.S. would actually decline to invade Canada.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dude, you really have a bad case of TDS. Have you thought
>>>>>> about taking anything for it ?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps it's being caused by what he's taking. Maybe
>>>>> something like LSD, or some sort of muchroom.
>>>>
>>>> I do know this, many of the socalled experts think that the
>>>> USA will park all of the carriers before 2030 due to our
>>>> inability to run a budget without a two trillion dollar
>>>> deficit. They think that we will sacrifice the DOD to pay
>>>> for Social Security and Medicare. So, we will not be able to
>>>> project any power beyond our shores.
>>>
>>> Many so-called "experts" cannot conceive of the concept of
>>> "Republicans win".
>>>
>> They broke when Queen Hillary was denied her god-given right to
>> govern over us lesser subraces.
>
> She may run again in 2024.
>
We can only hope. That will guarantee Trump a win.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
news:t0dsi5$e1t$4@dont-email.me:

> On 3/10/2022 9:47 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:t0carm$osf$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 3/10/2022 12:57 AM, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:t0bioi$o0n$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/9/2022 4:22 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:t0at76$cgt$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/9/2022 10:00 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:8a06a2a8-7424-4928-995d-cb4e572e8faen@googlegroups.co
>>>>>>>> m:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1) Although not actively engaged in hostilities, *we are
>>>>>>>>> at war*. That is the first thing to remember.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ukraine is at war. The US and Canada are not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You've really lost yoru shit, son. You need help.
>>>>>>>> Seriously.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John wants the USA to be what we are continuously accused
>>>>>>> of being, the world's policeman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What he really wants is a) to nuke brown people, and b)
>>>>>> girls who will let him touch their boobies without
>>>>>> screaming in terror. Sadly, for him, neither is likely to
>>>>>> ever happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow, that is sad. My maternal grandmother was light brown
>>>>> with very black eyes.
>>>>>
>>>> You weren't aware of that already?
>>>
>>> Not really.
>>>
>> What Usenet have you been reading for the last couple of
>> decades?
>
> I try to ignore the crazies.
>
Not a lot of mirrors in your house, then?

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

On 3/10/2022 3:23 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:t0dse9$e1t$3@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 3/10/2022 11:26 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:njdk2hdupos5se1mdkmq2cfla0blugm1h3@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 01:45:38 -0600, Lynn McGuire
>>>> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/9/2022 9:49 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:t08vsj$t1s$4@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/8/2022 10:46 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 15:02:02 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
>>>>>>>> <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 9:43:24 AM UTC-7, Paul S
>>>>>>>>> Person wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And, since Trump is a Putin sock puppet, those calling
>>>>>>>>>> Putin "fascist" are saying the Republican Party is
>>>>>>>>>> /still/ the Party of Hitler. But I am not.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Putin's the Hitler. Trump is only the Mussolini. Or maybe
>>>>>>>>> even the Franco.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, Trump was as funny as Mussolini. That is, both were
>>>>>>>> jokes as leaders go.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump as Franco - that would be a plus. That would mean
>>>>>>>>> that while Xi and Putin were carving up the world, the
>>>>>>>>> U.S. would actually decline to invade Canada.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dude, you really have a bad case of TDS. Have you thought
>>>>>>> about taking anything for it ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps it's being caused by what he's taking. Maybe
>>>>>> something like LSD, or some sort of muchroom.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do know this, many of the socalled experts think that the
>>>>> USA will park all of the carriers before 2030 due to our
>>>>> inability to run a budget without a two trillion dollar
>>>>> deficit. They think that we will sacrifice the DOD to pay
>>>>> for Social Security and Medicare. So, we will not be able to
>>>>> project any power beyond our shores.
>>>>
>>>> Many so-called "experts" cannot conceive of the concept of
>>>> "Republicans win".
>>>>
>>> They broke when Queen Hillary was denied her god-given right to
>>> govern over us lesser subraces.
>>
>> She may run again in 2024.
>>
> We can only hope. That will guarantee Trump a win.

Heh.

Lynn

On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 13:31:59 -0800 (PST), Ross Presser
<rpresser@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 12:07:21 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
>> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 07:35:07 -0800 (PST), Ross Presser
>> <rpre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 6:49:17 PM UTC-5, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 5:02:26 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > So basically the Russians managed to test some object about which
>> >> > they are making outlandish claims. So how does it find its target
>> >> > through that "plasma sheath" that somehow makes it "invisible" while
>> >> > lighting up half the universe? Just for openers.
>> >> They are hitting targets at hundreds of miles range, so they've solved
>> >> the problem. How, I don't know.
>> >
>> >The plasma sheath defeats active radar. It does nothing in most
>> >wavelengths. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_stealth
>> >
>> >The wikipedia article implies that its design targets are large, like
>> >aircraft carriers. Hitting an aircraft carrier *anywhere* at high Mach
>> >is just as good as precisely hitting the bridge or whatever.
>>
>> That plasma sheath is very hot, it's going to stick out like a sore
>> thumb on infrared. Radar is not the only kind of sensor that exists.
>> And if the thing is going fast enough it will be so bright that it is
>> naked-eye visible from space.
>
>Stipulated. But I was trying to clarify the use of "invisible". A radar
>system is not going to show a missile that is wrapped in a plasma
>sheath due to supersonic travel; at those speeds the missile only
>needs 10 seconds to travel from a "safe distance" to target; and
>**if** radar is your only active early warning system, then some
>of those 10 seconds are wasted in reaction time.

You might want to investigate modern air defense systems. 10 seconds
would be point-defense range.

On Thursday, 10 March 2022 at 16:56:35 UTC, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Paul S Person <pspe...@ix.netcom.invalid> writes:
> >On Wed, 09 Mar 2022 17:55:34 GMT, sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
> >>Since the end of the cold war, the following countries have acceeded to NATO
> >>voluntarily:
> >>
> >>1997 Czech Republic
> >>1997 Poland
> >>2003 Bulgaria
> >>2003 Estonia
> >>2003 Latvia
> >>2003 Lithuania
> >>2003 Romania
> >>2003 Slovak Republic
> >>2003 Slovenia
> >>2009 Albania
> >>2009 Croatia
> >>2016 Montenegro
> >>2019 North Macedonia
> >
> >I think you mean "chose to join NATO".
> Do look up the word 'accession'.

Did you?

On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 6:06:40 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 13:31:59 -0800 (PST), Ross Presser
> <rpre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 12:07:21 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
> >> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 07:35:07 -0800 (PST), Ross Presser
> >> <rpre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 6:49:17 PM UTC-5, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 5:02:26 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So basically the Russians managed to test some object about which
> >> >> > they are making outlandish claims. So how does it find its target
> >> >> > through that "plasma sheath" that somehow makes it "invisible" while
> >> >> > lighting up half the universe? Just for openers.
> >> >> They are hitting targets at hundreds of miles range, so they've solved
> >> >> the problem. How, I don't know.
> >> >
> >> >The plasma sheath defeats active radar. It does nothing in most
> >> >wavelengths. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_stealth
> >> >
> >> >The wikipedia article implies that its design targets are large, like
> >> >aircraft carriers. Hitting an aircraft carrier *anywhere* at high Mach
> >> >is just as good as precisely hitting the bridge or whatever.
> >>
> >> That plasma sheath is very hot, it's going to stick out like a sore
> >> thumb on infrared. Radar is not the only kind of sensor that exists.
> >> And if the thing is going fast enough it will be so bright that it is
> >> naked-eye visible from space.
> >
> >Stipulated. But I was trying to clarify the use of "invisible". A radar
> >system is not going to show a missile that is wrapped in a plasma
> >sheath due to supersonic travel; at those speeds the missile only
> >needs 10 seconds to travel from a "safe distance" to target; and
> >**if** radar is your only active early warning system, then some
> >of those 10 seconds are wasted in reaction time.
> You might want to investigate modern air defense systems. 10 seconds
> would be point-defense range.

Also, look up 'Active protection system'
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_protection_system#Hard-kill_measures
some can handle incoming threats at Mach 8+.

However, just the kinetic energy of the Zircon is equivalent to about 2 tons of TNT.
Unless you manage to disperse that at a significant distance from the target, it
will leave a mark you can't just buff out.

Pt

On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 10:39:44 AM UTC-7, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 06:40:53 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
> <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

> >After 9/11, I believe that allowing _any_ Muslim country to deny total
> >First Amendment-level equality to non-Muslims is to allow the mindset
> >that leads to terrorism to grow and fester.

> But it's OK for a Jewish country to do that to non-Jews?

That's a good question.

Well, almost.

How does Egypt treat Coptic Christians? Basically, as _dhimmi_.

If a Coptic Christian church is destroyed by an arsonist, often the
authorities will not grant permission to rebuild it.

Coptic Christians do not enjoy the equal protection of the law in Egypt.
Coptic Christians falsely accused of crimes against Muslims are
convicted and jailed; Muslims who commit crimes against Coptic
Christians get away with it.

One particularly horrifying thing is so-called "forced conversions".
If a Muslim man takes a fancy to a Coptic Christian girl, he can
kidnap her, force her to "convert" to Islam, and take her as his wife,
and she has no ability to escape back to her community.

In Israel, Israeli Arabs are equal citizens with full legal rights.

Yes, the Palestinians don't have equal legal rights in Israel. After
World War II, people ruiled by the United States in occupied areas
of Germany and Japan didn't get to vote in American elections
either. The Palestinians live in areas that are occupied by Israel
as a result of wars of aggression against Israel.

Israel has had to take genuinely necessary precautions against
terrorist activity, due to organizations such as the P.L.O. and
later Hamas.

Thus, one of those things is _not_ like the other. In many
countries of the Muslim world, it is simply taken for granted
that non-Muslims should have an inferior status and be
subject to Muslim rule.

This has led to a bitter resentment and hatred of Israel,
where Jews fought back against Muslims and refused to
be conquered and ruled by them. This twisted mentality
of hatred is what led to terrorism, including the 9/11
attacks.

While I will admit that unlike Israel's original government
under the wise leadership of Golda Meir, under the Likud
party, Israel has at times been less than perfect... the Jews
of Israel do *not* have a twisted mentality of hatred that
sees everyone else as inferior. When did _they_ knock
down a skyscraper in New York?

> >So my wrath is directed at evil people who persecute minorities,
> >and do aggression against allies of the United States.

> Even if those aggressors are trying to combat US persecution of
> minorities?

Oh, I don't have a double standard there. If Wakanda were to invade
the United States in order to impose a regime under which black people
would be more equal, I would not be in opposition. However, that question
will not arise, for the good reason that Wakanda doesn't exist outside
the pages of Marvel Comics. (Well, that's not _quite_ true; it also existed
on the silver screen...)

John Savard

On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 3:23:33 PM UTC-7, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:t0dse9$e1t$3...@dont-email.me:
> > On 3/10/2022 11:26 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:

> >> They broke when Queen Hillary was denied her god-given right to
> >> govern over us lesser subraces.

> > She may run again in 2024.

> We can only hope. That will guarantee Trump a win.

Only if she wins in the primaries.

John Savard

On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 17:05:35 -0800 (PST), "pete...@gmail.com"
<petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 6:06:40 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 13:31:59 -0800 (PST), Ross Presser
>> <rpre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 12:07:21 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 07:35:07 -0800 (PST), Ross Presser
>> >> <rpre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 6:49:17 PM UTC-5, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 5:02:26 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So basically the Russians managed to test some object about which
>> >> >> > they are making outlandish claims. So how does it find its target
>> >> >> > through that "plasma sheath" that somehow makes it "invisible" while
>> >> >> > lighting up half the universe? Just for openers.
>> >> >> They are hitting targets at hundreds of miles range, so they've solved
>> >> >> the problem. How, I don't know.
>> >> >
>> >> >The plasma sheath defeats active radar. It does nothing in most
>> >> >wavelengths. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_stealth
>> >> >
>> >> >The wikipedia article implies that its design targets are large, like
>> >> >aircraft carriers. Hitting an aircraft carrier *anywhere* at high Mach
>> >> >is just as good as precisely hitting the bridge or whatever.
>> >>
>> >> That plasma sheath is very hot, it's going to stick out like a sore
>> >> thumb on infrared. Radar is not the only kind of sensor that exists.
>> >> And if the thing is going fast enough it will be so bright that it is
>> >> naked-eye visible from space.
>> >
>> >Stipulated. But I was trying to clarify the use of "invisible". A radar
>> >system is not going to show a missile that is wrapped in a plasma
>> >sheath due to supersonic travel; at those speeds the missile only
>> >needs 10 seconds to travel from a "safe distance" to target; and
>> >**if** radar is your only active early warning system, then some
>> >of those 10 seconds are wasted in reaction time.
>> You might want to investigate modern air defense systems. 10 seconds
>> would be point-defense range.
>
>Also, look up 'Active protection system'
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_protection_system#Hard-kill_measures
>some can handle incoming threats at Mach 8+.
>
>However, just the kinetic energy of the Zircon is equivalent to about 2 tons of TNT.
>Unless you manage to disperse that at a significant distance from the target, it
>will leave a mark you can't just buff out.

A couple of HE shells from an Iowa basically. Damaging but not fatal
to a major combatant warship.