On 1/02/2022 11:35 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> On 1/02/2022 8:45 pm, Xeno wrote:

>> BTW, no deals. your claims, you get to prove them. It's what you
>> impressed upon other, follow your own rules!
>>
>>
> Of course you couldn't take the deal xeno. It was to be expected because
> you know that if was qualified enough to undertake an apprenticeship
> your whole argument loses value. You then are in an extremely precarious
> position. He's shown you to be a fool once in regard to the train
> incident no matter what BULLSHIT spin you put on it. You were wrong and
> hoist by your own petard. To be proven wrong twice would be too much for
> you wouldn't it. Talk about living in a cowards castle. No balls at all.
> But then we've known that for years.

Indeed.

I knew before pressing "Send" when writing that post that he'd run away
from it like Usain Bolt, and that I'd never even have to get the
certificate out of the filing cabinet :)

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On 2/02/2022 1:29 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> On 1/02/2022 11:53 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:

>> that's good advice. he only pops up to throw shit
>>
>>
> Lick lick. You're another who's balls are attached to another man.

The irony here is staggering :)

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On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 08:04:31 +1100, Noddy wrote:

>
> I knew before pressing "Send" when writing that post that he'd run away
> from it like Usain Bolt, and that I'd never even have to get the
> certificate out of the filing cabinet :)

How curious.
You've kept a worthless Ed Dept cert for nearly 50 years *and* claim to be
willing to upload it, but you won't do the same, even with caveats, for
documents pertaining to the fabled NA of A, your Qld property deets, your
trade quals etc etc etc.
How very curious.

alvey

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On 2/02/2022 6:27 am, alvey wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 00:29:10 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>
>>>
>> Lick lick. You're another who's balls are attached to another man.
>
> What? No response to Xeno Gumps? What say you?
>

Nothing. He's a nobody now. He's been offered an opportunity but as
usual runs away faster and further than Forrest Gump. Basically he's not
here to discuss cars, he's here to bully and harass much like you.

On 2/02/2022 9:11 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> On 2/02/2022 6:27 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 00:29:10 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> Lick lick. You're another who's balls are attached to another man.
>>
>> What? No response to Xeno Gumps? What say you?
>>
>
> Nothing. He's a nobody now. He's been offered an opportunity but as
> usual runs away faster and further than Forrest Gump. Basically he's not
> here to discuss cars, he's here to bully and harass much like you.

They want to watch themselves, as the new anti electronic media anti
bullying laws are in effect and they could trip some red flags with
their daily bombardment of the same repetitive shit.

Still, I don't think it would amount to much. They're pretty pissweak,
and it's kinda like being bullied by your grandmother from her bed in a
nursing home :)

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On 1/02/2022 6:24 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 1/02/2022 8:27 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 1 February 2022 at 16:17:18 UTC+11, Xeno wrote:
>
>>> Remember, you're the one who was too stupid to pass the year 9 exam so
>>> you failed to even get an apprenticeship. Hell, you even skipped out on
>>> the last 3 months of the school year. Why was that Darren? Knew you
>>> weren't going to pass anyway? The school bullies giving you too much
>>> stick? Or both of those?
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``````````~~~
>
>>   Yer a prize dickhead kryppy, Is this a new twist on yer attack??
>> Out of the two of ya, I`m pretty it *would not be noddy getting
>> bullied....:)))
>
> Yeah, I'm pretty sure as well :)
>
> Notice the bullshit he has invented here? I never said *anything* about
> not passing any "exams", and neither did I ever mention missing the last
> 3 months of school. These are *his* insane inventions. What *I* said was
> that I left school in the last few weeks as I had been offered an
> apprenticeship and they wanted me to start straight away. As to how long
> before the end of term I left I couldn't accurately tell you as it was
> almost 45 years ago and I don't remember. Could have been 5 weeks, and
> it could have been 2. Either way, the school probably never noticed :)
>
> I have a document here from the Education Department of Victoria which
> is an Intermediate Technical Examination certificate dated December
> 15th, 1977 showing me passing in 5 subjects, and I'm happy to scan this
> certificate and post it to a hosting site and make the link to it
> available here in exchange for Clasener's guarantee that he admit that
> everything he has ever claimed about my secondary school record has been
> nothing but a complete falsehood, that he intentionally fabricated his
> claims for no reason other than to attempt to pad out his bullshit claim
> that my education standard was insufficient for me to have qualified for
> an apprenticeship.
>
> Over to you, Kryppy. The ball's in your court now.
>
>

That's not proof you completed your apprenticeship or are qualified
champ, not even close and doesn't let you off the hook.

You don't get to set the terms, you get to provide proof of *your*
claims. That's how it works.

You reminded other people of that often enough.

On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 08:11:41 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:

> On 2/02/2022 6:27 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 00:29:10 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> Lick lick. You're another who's balls are attached to another man.
>>
>> What? No response to Xeno Gumps? What say you?
>>
>
> Nothing. He's a nobody now.

Right. So no response from you then. There's a surprise.
> He's been offered an opportunity but as
> usual runs away faster and further than Forrest Gump. Basically he's not
> here to discuss cars, he's here to bully and harass much like you.

Not a great choice of analogy there Gumps. Forrest ran *away* from bullies.

Also, the "opportunity" he was offered was a load of hugely hypocritical
stupid.

Btw, did you ever apologise to me for calling me a "problem gambler"?

alvey

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On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 09:17:52 +1100, Noddy wrote:

> On 2/02/2022 9:11 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 2/02/2022 6:27 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 00:29:10 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Lick lick. You're another who's balls are attached to another man.
>>>
>>> What? No response to Xeno Gumps? What say you?
>>>
>>
>> Nothing. He's a nobody now. He's been offered an opportunity but as
>> usual runs away faster and further than Forrest Gump. Basically he's not
>> here to discuss cars, he's here to bully and harass much like you.
>
> They want to watch themselves, as the new anti electronic media anti
> bullying laws are in effect and they could trip some red flags with
> their daily bombardment of the same repetitive shit.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
You are such a hoot Fraudster!

'Repetition' isn't a problem Der Der. Your normal bile, abuse and
defamatory squeals however makes you *easily* the 'Most Likely' to get
punted.

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On 2/02/2022 8:48 am, alvey wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 08:11:41 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>
>> On 2/02/2022 6:27 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 00:29:10 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Lick lick. You're another who's balls are attached to another man.
>>>
>>> What? No response to Xeno Gumps? What say you?
>>>
>>
>> Nothing. He's a nobody now.
>
> Right. So no response from you then. There's a surprise.
>
>> He's been offered an opportunity but as
>> usual runs away faster and further than Forrest Gump. Basically he's not
>> here to discuss cars, he's here to bully and harass much like you.
>
> Not a great choice of analogy there Gumps. Forrest ran *away* from bullies.
>
> Also, the "opportunity" he was offered was a load of hugely hypocritical
> stupid.
>
> Btw, did you ever apologise to me for calling me a "problem gambler"?
>
No I must have forgotten...

https://groups.google.com/g/aus.sport.cricket/c/dN9ANYza7lk/m/mJT2PARI6_gJ

How's that syndicate going?

On 2/02/2022 7:05 am, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 17:39:45 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>
> snip keith avoiding all the tricky bits
>
>> You asked me about my"Debating skills", that does reinforce my view that
>> the peak of your achievement was to be part of the school debating team.
>> At least there your attempts at word twisting and your smartarse remarks
>> would have been appreciated because that is what school debating is all
>> about, out here in the grown up world less so.
> Real "grown ups" [sic] answer questions keith.
>

+1

>
> alvey
> Smartarses are far more entertaining than dumbarses.
>

+1

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On 2/02/2022 6:57 am, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 17:34:55 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>
>
>> I just think that you are rather a sad little person who is so ashamed
>> of what he has achieved in life that he doesn't want to talk about it.
> There's another trait you have in common with The Fraudster keith. Neither
> of you could reach a correct conclusion if you had your own GPS satellite
> network, a team of top tracker dogs and Bear Grylls as a guide. I'd opine
> the problem is that you're blinded by ego.
>

interesting to note..

1. when attempting to denigrate his fellow humans he invariably uses the
adjectival term 'little'. this is an attempt at intimidation intended to
make the addressee feel insignificant and inferior. (keefy considers
himself superior to others). this is his obvious intent, as he has no
idea about the physical characteristics of his intended victim. they may
in fact be 6'4'' and 150 kilos.- not someone any sensible person would
describe as little.

2. apart from being 'little' I am supposedly 'sad', and I have to wonder
what the basis or evidence for that conclusion is?  I'd opine it's just
said as an attempt to reinforce the intended belittling effect of
'little' as described above.

2. he suggests something rather curios- that someone would be ashamed of
their achievements. isn't an achievement by it's very nature something
to be proud of? why would someone be ashamed of an achievement? perhaps
a remorseful Mafia Don could be, if such an animal could or would ever
exist, and successful criminal activity could be described as
achievement, but no keefy, sorry to disappoint you (well, not really
sorry) I am not ashamed of any of my achievements in life. but perhaps
you may wonder- would I have liked to have achieved more? sure, but I'm
certain I'm not Robinson Caruso in that. however, my life is not yet
over, so who knows what I may still achieve? but should there be
anything of significance, it would be for me to know, and you not.

>
> alvey
>

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On 2/02/2022 7:27 am, alvey wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 00:29:10 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>
>> Lick lick. You're another who's balls are attached to another man.
> What? No response to Xeno Gumps? What say you?
>

leave the poor man alone. can't you see he's busy trying to crawl back
under his rock..

>
> alvey
>
>

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On 2/02/2022 9:11 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> On 2/02/2022 6:27 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 00:29:10 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> Lick lick. You're another who's balls are attached to another man.
>>
>> What? No response to Xeno Gumps? What say you?
>>
>
> Nothing. He's a nobody now. He's been offered an opportunity but as
> usual runs away faster and further than Forrest Gump. Basically he's
> not here to discuss cars, he's here to bully and harass much like you.
>

wrong. he provides a lot of (detailed) information when addressing any
automotive matter. just yesterday he answered a question of mine. (none
of the FLCJC did).  that one incident alone shoots you down in flames.

(cue noddy with his attempted intimidation, insults, and abuse)

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On 2/02/2022 11:13 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> On 2/02/2022 8:48 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 08:11:41 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/02/2022 6:27 am, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 00:29:10 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Lick lick. You're another who's balls are attached to another man.
>>>>
>>>> What? No response to Xeno Gumps? What say you?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nothing. He's a nobody now.
>>
>> Right. So no response from you then. There's a surprise.
>>> He's been offered an opportunity but as
>>> usual runs away faster and further than Forrest Gump. Basically he's
>>> not
>>> here to discuss cars, he's here to bully and harass much like you.
>>
>> Not a great choice of analogy there Gumps. Forrest ran *away* from
>> bullies.
>>
>> Also, the "opportunity" he was offered was a load of hugely hypocritical
>> stupid.
>>
>> Btw, did you ever apologise to me for calling me a "problem gambler"?
>>
> No I must have forgotten...
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/aus.sport.cricket/c/dN9ANYza7lk/m/mJT2PARI6_gJ
>
>
> How's that syndicate going?
>
>
>

oh lookey here.. grubby posting something unrelated from elsewhere to
attempt to denigrate someone. how untypical, NOT! pity you couldn't find
a video, hey?

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On 2/02/2022 6:52 am, alvey wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 09:17:52 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>
>> On 2/02/2022 9:11 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>> On 2/02/2022 6:27 am, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 00:29:10 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Lick lick. You're another who's balls are attached to another man.
>>>>
>>>> What? No response to Xeno Gumps? What say you?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nothing. He's a nobody now. He's been offered an opportunity but as
>>> usual runs away faster and further than Forrest Gump. Basically he's not
>>> here to discuss cars, he's here to bully and harass much like you.
>>
>> They want to watch themselves, as the new anti electronic media anti
>> bullying laws are in effect and they could trip some red flags with
>> their daily bombardment of the same repetitive shit.
>
> Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
> You are such a hoot Fraudster!
>
> 'Repetition' isn't a problem Der Der. Your normal bile, abuse and
> defamatory squeals however makes you *easily* the 'Most Likely' to get
> punted.
>
>

Indeed but not just him. There is a clear cut case for defamation from
one of his mates too.

On 2/02/2022 6:48 am, alvey wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 08:11:41 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>
>> On 2/02/2022 6:27 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 00:29:10 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Lick lick. You're another who's balls are attached to another man.
>>>
>>> What? No response to Xeno Gumps? What say you?
>>>
>>
>> Nothing. He's a nobody now.
>
> Right. So no response from you then. There's a surprise.
>
>> He's been offered an opportunity but as
>> usual runs away faster and further than Forrest Gump. Basically he's not
>> here to discuss cars, he's here to bully and harass much like you.
>
> Not a great choice of analogy there Gumps. Forrest ran *away* from bullies.
>
> Also, the "opportunity" he was offered was a load of hugely hypocritical
> stupid.
>
> Btw, did you ever apologise to me for calling me a "problem gambler"?
>
>
> alvey
>

Did he ever retract his comments and apologise to me for calling me a
"stalker"?

On 2/2/2022 12:45 am, Clocky wrote:
> On 1/02/2022 2:46 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 1/02/2022 1:03 am, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 31/01/2022 9:30 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 31/01/2022 11:25 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 31/01/2022 9:03 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 30/01/2022 8:06 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 30/01/2022 9:35 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 30/01/2022 5:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 30/01/2022 6:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 30/01/2022 7:02 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/01/2022 12:35 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29/01/2022 9:00 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29/01/2022 8:59 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29/01/2022 12:02 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 29 January 2022 at 01:53:22 UTC+11, Yosemite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29/01/2022 12:13 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have *never* completed an apprenticeship.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Absolutely positively
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100% sure of it. You are a fraud!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which speaks volumes about his enablers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   And heeerrrreeeeeesssssss pepe... <G> Just while yer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here (for whatever reason) tell me more about this non
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> synchro Vauxhall you er, owned???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I love this "enablers" bullshit. Apparently anyone who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disagrees with the "FLC" is automatically a supporter of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mine, because apparently these fuckwits have the mentality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of 10 year olds and can't relate to the idea that people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simply think whatever they're saying is complete nonsense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just like the comment of Jerky Birko's above. He's 100%
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure apparently. Oddly enough, he was *also* 100% sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Clasener was right about the train incident in that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it never happened and that I was never there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was 100% sure about that *right* up to the point where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he was proven to be conclusively wrong and had to make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grovelling apology.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These fucking idiots apparently *never* learn from their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own mistakes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're the one who never learns to stop lying. we know that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xeno taught where he said he did, so you can just stfu!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noddy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We know with 100% certainty that Xeno taught where he said
>>>>>>>>>>>> he taught because the proof is irrefutable and can be
>>>>>>>>>>>> cross-checked. Noddy posts photos of cable ties and projects
>>>>>>>>>>>> he copied from youtube but nothing that proves he ever
>>>>>>>>>>>> completed an apprenticeship.
>>>>>>>>>>>> If he completed an apprenticeship how can it be that there
>>>>>>>>>>>> is no record of it and he knows *nothing* about the process?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why does the VACC have no record of his claimed long term
>>>>>>>>>>>> membership? Where is his explanation for that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> His gutless enablers don't dare ask these questions but even
>>>>>>>>>>>> they must wonder why he's so forthcoming with pointless
>>>>>>>>>>>> chest-beating crap yet when it comes to posting the only
>>>>>>>>>>>> thing that could restore some credibility and integrity, IOW
>>>>>>>>>>>> verifiable proof that he is qualified, the keyboard tough
>>>>>>>>>>>> guy that has been deriding, attacking, bullying and false
>>>>>>>>>>>> attributing his lies etc to others and demanding proof of
>>>>>>>>>>>> claims of others for decades suddenly develops a glass jaw
>>>>>>>>>>>> and runs away, sniping more lies as he goes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is a quote popularly (and probably mistakenly)
>>>>>>>>>>> attributed to Albert Einstein "The definition of insanity is
>>>>>>>>>>> doing the same thing over and over and expecting different
>>>>>>>>>>> results".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You mean like claiming you're qualified for decades when all
>>>>>>>>>> the evidence shows you're not?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What have I ever claimed to be qualified for?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Or telling grand lies that are easily disproved but sticking
>>>>>>>>>> to them in the face of cold hard evidence?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What evidence?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nobody in the history of aus.cars has done so much damage to
>>>>>>>>>> the group. Just look at the most recent attacks on people that
>>>>>>>>>> dared ask an automotive question FFS keith.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What damage have I done to the NG?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Open your fucking eyes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That sort of thing?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you even know who you're replying to?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "On 30/01/2022 5:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you remember keith?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're pretty vague these days mate and making less and less
>>>>>>>> sense by the day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that your the one who's vague, your remarks were
>>>>>>> obviously not meant for me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They *are* meant for you in reference to the *fraud* which you
>>>>>> pretend you don't understand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At least, I hope you are pretending...
>>>>>
>>>>> You reply to me with a direct attack on somebody else, you are
>>>>> really losing it, must be the isolation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> it was obvious what he did for anyone with at least half a brain
>>>>
>>>
>>> keith needs to see a doctor.
>>
>> I'm going to see my endocrinologist this week - good enough?
>
> That remains to be seen but I sincerely hope so for your sake.

On 2/2/2022 12:53 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 2/02/2022 12:07 am, Xeno wrote:
>> On 1/2/2022 11:35 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>> On 1/02/2022 8:45 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 1/2/2022 9:24 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, I'm pretty sure as well :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Notice the bullshit he has invented here? I never said *anything*
>>>>> about not passing any "exams", and neither did I ever mention
>>>>> missing the last 3 months of school. These are *his* insane
>>>>> inventions. What *I* said was that I left school in the last few
>>>>> weeks as I had been offered an apprenticeship and they wanted me to
>>>>> start straight away. As to how long before the end of term I left I
>>>>> couldn't accurately tell you as it was almost 45 years ago and I
>>>>> don't remember. Could have been 5 weeks, and it could have been 2.
>>>>> Either way, the school probably never noticed :)
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a document here from the Education Department of Victoria
>>>>> which is an Intermediate Technical Examination certificate dated
>>>>> December 15th, 1977 showing me passing in 5 subjects, and I'm happy
>>>>> to scan this certificate and post it to a hosting site and make the
>>>>> link to it available here in exchange for Clasener's guarantee that
>>>>> he admit that everything he has ever claimed about my secondary
>>>>> school record has been nothing but a complete falsehood, that he
>>>>> intentionally fabricated his claims for no reason other than to
>>>>> attempt to pad out his bullshit claim that my education standard
>>>>> was insufficient for me to have qualified for an apprenticeship.
>>>>>
>>>>> Over to you, Kryppy. The ball's in your court now.
>>>>
>>>> Just post your trade qualification numbers Darren. They are the only
>>>> thing that absolutely cannot be faked. Those numbers can also be
>>>> *independently verified* with no restrictions. Keeps frauds under
>>>> control, you see. What's more, the numbers also include encoded
>>>> details of the person concerned.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, no deals. your claims, you get to prove them. It's what you
>>>> impressed upon other, follow your own rules!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Of course you couldn't take the deal xeno. It was to be expected
>>> because you know that if was qualified enough to undertake an
>>> apprenticeship your whole argument loses value. You then are in an
>>> extremely precarious
>>
>> Wrong. Darren claimed he was an AME(engines) apprentice. Even if he
>> had year 9 passes in *10* subjects, he *still* couldn't enter into
>> *any* AME apprenticeship because the entry level to any and all AME
>> apprenticeship is and always has been year 10 passes in *specific
>> subjects*. It is at year 10 level because it is a technician level
>> apprenticeship. The first 3 years of study are at Cert 3, the 4th year
>> at TAFE brings it up to Cert 4 level. My L-AME friend Graeme is on
>> LinkedIn, go and put the question to him - I did. He is a
>> L-AME(engines), L-AME(electrical) and L-AME(airframe). The L in the
>> name means *Licenced*. He is licenced to work on *turbines*, the
>> engine types Qantas had when he did his AME apprenticeship with them
>> back about the same time I did my apprenticeship as a motor mechanic.
>> As for the claim to the other two apprenticeships Darren claims to
>> have done, well he could not have done them until the laws were
>> *repealed* in 1992. Go look them up. You will find them in a link
>> inadvertently provided by Daryl. In that same link is the *proof* that
>> the AME apprenticeship requires 4 years attendance at TAFE (1280
>> hours). Of course, there is the fact that neither the trade
>> qualifications database nor the archives at PROV contain *any*
>> reference to Darren Thomas Gibbens having even been signed up to any
>> apprenticeship ever nor having been issued with any trade registration
>> numbers. *You* can verify this yourself at PROV.
>>
>> Now run along now and crawl back under your rock.
>>
>>
>
> that's good advice. he only pops up to throw shit
>
>
The odd thing is, it was Darren himself who said he skipped the last
three months of year 9. It was only when I pointed it out to him that
would invalidate him from sitting the exam that he tried to claim he sat
the exam anyway. What he didn't realise that passing, or even being
*eligble* to sit, an exam requires attendance above a set percentage. 3
months out, forget it, you're done. I have consistently made the 3 month
claim, after he mentioned it, and *now* is the first time he says he
attended classes right up to the exam. The smell of bullshit is strong
in this one!

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 2/2/2022 1:29 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> On 1/02/2022 11:53 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 2/02/2022 12:07 am, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 1/2/2022 11:35 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>> On 1/02/2022 8:45 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 1/2/2022 9:24 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, I'm pretty sure as well :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Notice the bullshit he has invented here? I never said *anything*
>>>>>> about not passing any "exams", and neither did I ever mention
>>>>>> missing the last 3 months of school. These are *his* insane
>>>>>> inventions. What *I* said was that I left school in the last few
>>>>>> weeks as I had been offered an apprenticeship and they wanted me
>>>>>> to start straight away. As to how long before the end of term I
>>>>>> left I couldn't accurately tell you as it was almost 45 years ago
>>>>>> and I don't remember. Could have been 5 weeks, and it could have
>>>>>> been 2. Either way, the school probably never noticed :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a document here from the Education Department of Victoria
>>>>>> which is an Intermediate Technical Examination certificate dated
>>>>>> December 15th, 1977 showing me passing in 5 subjects, and I'm
>>>>>> happy to scan this certificate and post it to a hosting site and
>>>>>> make the link to it available here in exchange for Clasener's
>>>>>> guarantee that he admit that everything he has ever claimed about
>>>>>> my secondary school record has been nothing but a complete
>>>>>> falsehood, that he intentionally fabricated his claims for no
>>>>>> reason other than to attempt to pad out his bullshit claim that my
>>>>>> education standard was insufficient for me to have qualified for
>>>>>> an apprenticeship.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Over to you, Kryppy. The ball's in your court now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just post your trade qualification numbers Darren. They are the
>>>>> only thing that absolutely cannot be faked. Those numbers can also
>>>>> be *independently verified* with no restrictions. Keeps frauds
>>>>> under control, you see. What's more, the numbers also include
>>>>> encoded details of the person concerned.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, no deals. your claims, you get to prove them. It's what you
>>>>> impressed upon other, follow your own rules!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Of course you couldn't take the deal xeno. It was to be expected
>>>> because you know that if was qualified enough to undertake an
>>>> apprenticeship your whole argument loses value. You then are in an
>>>> extremely precarious
>>>
>>> Wrong. Darren claimed he was an AME(engines) apprentice. Even if he
>>> had year 9 passes in *10* subjects, he *still* couldn't enter into
>>> *any* AME apprenticeship because the entry level to any and all AME
>>> apprenticeship is and always has been year 10 passes in *specific
>>> subjects*. It is at year 10 level because it is a technician level
>>> apprenticeship. The first 3 years of study are at Cert 3, the 4th
>>> year at TAFE brings it up to Cert 4 level. My L-AME friend Graeme is
>>> on LinkedIn, go and put the question to him - I did. He is a
>>> L-AME(engines), L-AME(electrical) and L-AME(airframe). The L in the
>>> name means *Licenced*. He is licenced to work on *turbines*, the
>>> engine types Qantas had when he did his AME apprenticeship with them
>>> back about the same time I did my apprenticeship as a motor mechanic.
>>> As for the claim to the other two apprenticeships Darren claims to
>>> have done, well he could not have done them until the laws were
>>> *repealed* in 1992. Go look them up. You will find them in a link
>>> inadvertently provided by Daryl. In that same link is the *proof*
>>> that the AME apprenticeship requires 4 years attendance at TAFE (1280
>>> hours). Of course, there is the fact that neither the trade
>>> qualifications database nor the archives at PROV contain *any*
>>> reference to Darren Thomas Gibbens having even been signed up to any
>>> apprenticeship ever nor having been issued with any trade
>>> registration numbers. *You* can verify this yourself at PROV.
>>>
>>> Now run along now and crawl back under your rock.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> that's good advice. he only pops up to throw shit
>>
>>
> Lick lick. You're another who's balls are attached to another man.

What's up no-balls? Feeling a bit of testicular envy there?

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 2/2/2022 3:03 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 2/02/2022 1:29 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 1/02/2022 11:53 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 2/02/2022 12:07 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 1/2/2022 11:35 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>> On 1/02/2022 8:45 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/2/2022 9:24 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, I'm pretty sure as well :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Notice the bullshit he has invented here? I never said *anything*
>>>>>>> about not passing any "exams", and neither did I ever mention
>>>>>>> missing the last 3 months of school. These are *his* insane
>>>>>>> inventions. What *I* said was that I left school in the last few
>>>>>>> weeks as I had been offered an apprenticeship and they wanted me
>>>>>>> to start straight away. As to how long before the end of term I
>>>>>>> left I couldn't accurately tell you as it was almost 45 years ago
>>>>>>> and I don't remember. Could have been 5 weeks, and it could have
>>>>>>> been 2. Either way, the school probably never noticed :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a document here from the Education Department of Victoria
>>>>>>> which is an Intermediate Technical Examination certificate dated
>>>>>>> December 15th, 1977 showing me passing in 5 subjects, and I'm
>>>>>>> happy to scan this certificate and post it to a hosting site and
>>>>>>> make the link to it available here in exchange for Clasener's
>>>>>>> guarantee that he admit that everything he has ever claimed about
>>>>>>> my secondary school record has been nothing but a complete
>>>>>>> falsehood, that he intentionally fabricated his claims for no
>>>>>>> reason other than to attempt to pad out his bullshit claim that
>>>>>>> my education standard was insufficient for me to have qualified
>>>>>>> for an apprenticeship.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Over to you, Kryppy. The ball's in your court now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just post your trade qualification numbers Darren. They are the
>>>>>> only thing that absolutely cannot be faked. Those numbers can also
>>>>>> be *independently verified* with no restrictions. Keeps frauds
>>>>>> under control, you see. What's more, the numbers also include
>>>>>> encoded details of the person concerned.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, no deals. your claims, you get to prove them. It's what you
>>>>>> impressed upon other, follow your own rules!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Of course you couldn't take the deal xeno. It was to be expected
>>>>> because you know that if was qualified enough to undertake an
>>>>> apprenticeship your whole argument loses value. You then are in an
>>>>> extremely precarious
>>>>
>>>> Wrong. Darren claimed he was an AME(engines) apprentice. Even if he
>>>> had year 9 passes in *10* subjects, he *still* couldn't enter into
>>>> *any* AME apprenticeship because the entry level to any and all AME
>>>> apprenticeship is and always has been year 10 passes in *specific
>>>> subjects*. It is at year 10 level because it is a technician level
>>>> apprenticeship. The first 3 years of study are at Cert 3, the 4th
>>>> year at TAFE brings it up to Cert 4 level. My L-AME friend Graeme is
>>>> on LinkedIn, go and put the question to him - I did. He is a
>>>> L-AME(engines), L-AME(electrical) and L-AME(airframe). The L in the
>>>> name means *Licenced*. He is licenced to work on *turbines*, the
>>>> engine types Qantas had when he did his AME apprenticeship with them
>>>> back about the same time I did my apprenticeship as a motor
>>>> mechanic. As for the claim to the other two apprenticeships Darren
>>>> claims to have done, well he could not have done them until the laws
>>>> were *repealed* in 1992. Go look them up. You will find them in a
>>>> link inadvertently provided by Daryl. In that same link is the
>>>> *proof* that the AME apprenticeship requires 4 years attendance at
>>>> TAFE (1280 hours). Of course, there is the fact that neither the
>>>> trade qualifications database nor the archives at PROV contain *any*
>>>> reference to Darren Thomas Gibbens having even been signed up to any
>>>> apprenticeship ever nor having been issued with any trade
>>>> registration numbers. *You* can verify this yourself at PROV.
>>>>
>>>> Now run along now and crawl back under your rock.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> that's good advice. he only pops up to throw shit
>>>
>>>
>> Lick lick. You're another who's balls are attached to another man.
>
>
> you belong in the FLCJC. hateful liars with their minds in the gutter.
> you prove it more and more, scumbag. but at least you're showing your
> true colours. but you know what? I think the ppl the FLCJC members hate
> the most are themselves! it's all projection.
>
Oh yes, for sure! Projection 100%, it's all they have left.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 2/2/2022 7:17 am, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 21:24:04 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>
>> On 1/02/2022 8:27 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 1 February 2022 at 16:17:18 UTC+11, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>>> Remember, you're the one who was too stupid to pass the year 9 exam so
>>>> you failed to even get an apprenticeship. Hell, you even skipped out on
>>>> the last 3 months of the school year. Why was that Darren? Knew you
>>>> weren't going to pass anyway? The school bullies giving you too much
>>>> stick? Or both of those?
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``````````~~~
>>
>>> Yer a prize dickhead kryppy, Is this a new twist on yer attack?? Out of the two of ya, I`m pretty it *would not be noddy getting bullied....:)))
>>
>> Yeah, I'm pretty sure as well :)
>>
>> Notice the bullshit he has invented here? I never said *anything* about
>> not passing any "exams", and neither did I ever mention missing the last
>> 3 months of school. These are *his* insane inventions. What *I* said was
>> that I left school in the last few weeks as I had been offered an
>> apprenticeship and they wanted me to start straight away. As to how long
>> before the end of term I left I couldn't accurately tell you as it was
>> almost 45 years ago and I don't remember. Could have been 5 weeks, and
>> it could have been 2. Either way, the school probably never noticed :)
>>
>> I have a document here from the Education Department of Victoria which
>> is an Intermediate Technical Examination certificate dated December
>> 15th, 1977 showing me passing in 5 subjects, and I'm happy to scan this
>> certificate and post it to a hosting site and make the link to it
>> available here in exchange for Clasener's guarantee that he admit that
>> everything he has ever claimed about my secondary school record has been
>> nothing but a complete falsehood, that he intentionally fabricated his
>> claims for no reason other than to attempt to pad out his bullshit claim
>> that my education standard was insufficient for me to have qualified for
>> an apprenticeship.
>>
>> Over to you, Kryppy. The ball's in your court now.
>
> lol!
> That's the great thing about sociopaths. They *never* learn.
>
> Look Fraudster, once *again* you've left yourself wide open to the
> question, "If you're willing to publish proof of this pissy case, why won't
> you do so for *any* of your Big Claims?".
>
> And why would 'release' documents which you claim make you eligible for
> apprenticeships but not the numbers which Xeno has repeatedly asked you
> for? Odd. And why has it taken so long for the Fraudster to make this
> offer?

As I pointed out in another response, a school certificate, if you're
not sighting an original, can easily be dummied up or even altered. A
trade registration number, however, cannot be faked, no way, no how. It
is *registered* to an *individual*, contains encoded information
relevant to said individual, and can be verified with the appropriate
govt. body. It is, after all, *public information*.
>
> Back to you Fraudster.
>
>
>
> alvey
> Xeno: Ask for the alleged Ed Dept docs anyway.
>
Darren himself said he skipped the last 3 months of school. The *only*
item of value is the trade registration X 2 he claims to possess.
Anything else is pure fluff.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 2/2/2022 9:11 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> On 2/02/2022 6:27 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 00:29:10 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> Lick lick. You're another who's balls are attached to another man.
>>
>> What? No response to Xeno Gumps? What say you?
>>
>
> Nothing. He's a nobody now. He's been offered an opportunity but as
> usual runs away faster and further than Forrest Gump. Basically he's not
> here to discuss cars, he's here to bully and harass much like you.
>
By verifying Darren's bona fides, I *am discussing cars*. He made claims
here in order to big himself up and *appear trade relevant*. Ok, now
it's time for him to *prove it*. After all, the Govt. of Victoria has
*no record whatsoever* of him linked to any trade nor any apprenticeship
ever. Remember, PROV houses TAFE college apprentice records as well as
trade registrations. Under all student record in the relevant
alphabetical designation, only 4 were held by persons having the surname
Gibbens and none had Darren Thomas as first names. What's more, none
were in automotive and one was female, a hairdresser. That puts into
question *all* his *claimed* apprenticeships. His claim to a motor
mechanic's apprenticeship was so full of holes that blind Freddy could
see it was bullshit through and through.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 2/02/2022 9:05 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 2/02/2022 11:13 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 2/02/2022 8:48 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 08:11:41 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/02/2022 6:27 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 00:29:10 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lick lick. You're another who's balls are attached to another man.
>>>>>
>>>>> What? No response to Xeno Gumps? What say you?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nothing. He's a nobody now.
>>>
>>> Right. So no response from you then. There's a surprise.
>>>> He's been offered an opportunity but as
>>>> usual runs away faster and further than Forrest Gump. Basically he's
>>>> not
>>>> here to discuss cars, he's here to bully and harass much like you.
>>>
>>> Not a great choice of analogy there Gumps. Forrest ran *away* from
>>> bullies.
>>>
>>> Also, the "opportunity" he was offered was a load of hugely hypocritical
>>> stupid.
>>>
>>> Btw, did you ever apologise to me for calling me a "problem gambler"?
>>>
>> No I must have forgotten...
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/aus.sport.cricket/c/dN9ANYza7lk/m/mJT2PARI6_gJ
>>
>>
>> How's that syndicate going?
>>
>>
>>
>
> oh lookey here.. grubby posting something unrelated from elsewhere to
> attempt to denigrate someone. how untypical, NOT!

Nor does it in any way, shape or form establish that Alvey is a "problem
gambler".

pity you couldn't find
> a video, hey?
>
>

Clear pattern of behaviour you reckon?

On 2/2/2022 8:04 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 1/02/2022 11:35 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 1/02/2022 8:45 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>>> BTW, no deals. your claims, you get to prove them. It's what you
>>> impressed upon other, follow your own rules!
>>>
>>>
>> Of course you couldn't take the deal xeno. It was to be expected
>> because you know that if was qualified enough to undertake an
>> apprenticeship your whole argument loses value. You then are in an
>> extremely precarious position. He's shown you to be a fool once in
>> regard to the train incident no matter what BULLSHIT spin you put on
>> it. You were wrong and hoist by your own petard. To be proven wrong
>> twice would be too much for you wouldn't it. Talk about living in a
>> cowards castle. No balls at all. But then we've known that for years.
>
> Indeed.
>
> I knew before pressing "Send" when writing that post that he'd run away
> from it like Usain Bolt, and that I'd never even have to get the
> certificate out of the filing cabinet :)
>
My claim is that you never did any apprenticeship ever Darren. There is
only one (1) piece of proof that matters and that is something with a
trade registration number that links back to *you* and no one else. Even
with a pass at year 9, you still didn't *qualify* for an AME
apprenticeship as that required year 10 passes. IOW, it makes no
difference to claim to have been an apprentice AME - you still didn't
qualify.
Remember, you said you completed all AME college work in three (3)
years. I called bullshit on that because, courtesy of Daryl, I was
handed *proof* that an AME apprenticeship required 4 years at college
(1280 hours). Your claim that you did it all in 3 was impossible as that
course, in that era, was run lock step, no chance of any student
completing before the whole class. I found out from Graeme that the AME
apprenticeship required year 10 entry levels. Graeme is a Tasmanian from
Launceston who attended the same high school as I back in the 60s and
who now lives locally. He is on LinkedIn, go ask him.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 2/2/2022 8:05 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 2/02/2022 1:29 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 1/02/2022 11:53 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>>> that's good advice. he only pops up to throw shit
>>>
>>>
>> Lick lick. You're another who's balls are attached to another man.
>
> The irony here is staggering :)
>
Actually, the *projection* here is staggering.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)