"Morrison and his like have dared attack Novak to bring Serbia to its
knees," Mr Djokovic said.

"To it's knees"? WTF? But the fruitcake didnt say *why*...

and:

"They're stomping all over Novak to stomp all over Serbia and Serbian
people."

Huh? ramblings of a man with severe issues...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-dad-says-deportation-is-politically-motivated/100743158

--
"If his story wasn't total and utter bullshit, it would be a doddle for
him to get the info. Trouble is, he was never involved in the incident.
He knows that, I know that and you had best wake up to it. xeno 24/08/14

"I was never in doubt that the accident took place." xeno 12/08/18

On 7/01/2022 8:09 am, lindsay wrote:
>
>
> "Morrison and his like have dared attack Novak to bring Serbia to its
> knees," Mr Djokovic said.
>
> "To it's knees"? WTF? But the fruitcake didnt say *why*...
>
> and:
>
> "They're stomping all over Novak to stomp all over Serbia and Serbian
> people."
>
> Huh? ramblings of a man with severe issues...
>
> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-dad-says-deportation-is-politically-motivated/100743158

What a fuckwit.

They should never have let the unvaccinated cuntbag into the country in
the first place, and after insane rants like this they should never let
him back in ever again.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

lindsay wrote:
>
>"Morrison and his like have dared attack Novak to bring Serbia to its
>knees," Mr Djokovic said.
>
>"To it's knees"? WTF? But the fruitcake didnt say *why*...
>
>and:
>
>"They're stomping all over Novak to stomp all over Serbia and Serbian
>people."
>
>Huh? ramblings of a man with severe issues...
>
>https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-dad-says-deportation-is-politically-motivated/100743158

Clearly there's been a stuff up at some level of government, whether
it be the Vics or the Feds (I'm inclined to suspect the Feds).

Djokovic Senior's rant isn't going to elicit much sympathy from the
locals, lest they be Serbs, but I'd be far more interested in finding
out who issued a visa that didn't meet the entry requirements when
Novak's camp had obviously been led to believe it did.

Nor is it likely to be an isolated case.

--
John H

On 7/01/2022 5:09 am, lindsay wrote:
>
>
> "Morrison and his like have dared attack Novak to bring Serbia to its
> knees," Mr Djokovic said.
>
> "To it's knees"? WTF? But the fruitcake didnt say *why*...
>
> and:
>
> "They're stomping all over Novak to stomp all over Serbia and Serbian
> people."
>
> Huh? ramblings of a man with severe issues...
>

More of a cultural thing where an 'attack' on one is seen as an 'attack'
on all and he's using it to try and leverage numbers to protest. There
will always be a few dumbarses that blindly follow a leader no matter
how nuts he is... the FLCJC prove that in spades!

> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-dad-says-deportation-is-politically-motivated/100743158
>
>

I read Tennis Australia were forewarned some months ago by Greg Hunt
about the requirements for entry. Novax hasn't met the requirements and
he can't come in. Simple stuff. Whatever Tennis Australia and the state
of incompetence granted is completely irrelevant - the feds get the
final say, not those with a vested interest.

We don't need that anti-vaxxer poster child here anyway, those morons
don't need any more encouragement.

On 7/1/22 11:32 am, John_H wrote:
> lindsay wrote:
>>
>> "Morrison and his like have dared attack Novak to bring Serbia to its
>> knees," Mr Djokovic said.
>>
>> "To it's knees"? WTF? But the fruitcake didnt say *why*...
>>
>> and:
>>
>> "They're stomping all over Novak to stomp all over Serbia and Serbian
>> people."
>>
>> Huh? ramblings of a man with severe issues...
>>
>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-dad-says-deportation-is-politically-motivated/100743158
>
> Clearly there's been a stuff up at some level of government, whether
> it be the Vics or the Feds (I'm inclined to suspect the Feds).
>
> Djokovic Senior's rant isn't going to elicit much sympathy from the
> locals, lest they be Serbs, but I'd be far more interested in finding
> out who issued a visa that didn't meet the entry requirements when
> Novak's camp had obviously been led to believe it did.
>
> Nor is it likely to be an isolated case.
>
I got the impression he was issued the visa with the proviso he provide
substantive proof on arrival. He was asked for it, he was unable to
supply anything other than a couple of reccomendations.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 7/1/22 8:09 am, lindsay wrote:
>
>
> "Morrison and his like have dared attack Novak to bring Serbia to its
> knees," Mr Djokovic said.
>
> "To it's knees"? WTF? But the fruitcake didnt say *why*...
>
> and:
>
> "They're stomping all over Novak to stomp all over Serbia and Serbian
> people."
>
> Huh? ramblings of a man with severe issues...
>
> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-dad-says-deportation-is-politically-motivated/100743158
>
>
>
>
>
Looks like all the mental asylums in Serbia are already full:-)
That bloke is a certifiable lunatic.

--
Daryl

On 7/01/2022 11:32 am, John_H wrote:
> lindsay wrote:
>>
>> "Morrison and his like have dared attack Novak to bring Serbia to its
>> knees," Mr Djokovic said.
>>
>> "To it's knees"? WTF? But the fruitcake didnt say *why*...
>>
>> and:
>>
>> "They're stomping all over Novak to stomp all over Serbia and Serbian
>> people."
>>
>> Huh? ramblings of a man with severe issues...
>>
>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-dad-says-deportation-is-politically-motivated/100743158
>
> Clearly there's been a stuff up at some level of government, whether
> it be the Vics or the Feds (I'm inclined to suspect the Feds).

The conditions that need to be met to enter the country come under
Federal authority, but I'd personally be putting the blame for this in
Novak's camp. They're the ones who applied for the visa.

> Djokovic Senior's rant isn't going to elicit much sympathy from the
> locals, lest they be Serbs, but I'd be far more interested in finding
> out who issued a visa that didn't meet the entry requirements when
> Novak's camp had obviously been led to believe it did.

Novak's camp has had *months* to get this sorted, and after all the
media attention and speculation they've *still* managed to fuck it up.

> Nor is it likely to be an isolated case.

Can't comment on that, but if other people have been kicked out of the
country for the same issues then he should be too. As Rafael Nadal was
quoted as saying in this morning's paper, "He could have avoided all
this by just being vaccinated".

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 7/1/22 8:16 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 7/01/2022 8:09 am, lindsay wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Morrison and his like have dared attack Novak to bring Serbia to its
>> knees," Mr Djokovic said.
>>
>> "To it's knees"? WTF? But the fruitcake didnt say *why*...
>>
>> and:
>>
>> "They're stomping all over Novak to stomp all over Serbia and Serbian
>> people."
>>
>> Huh? ramblings of a man with severe issues...
>>
>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-dad-says-deportation-is-politically-motivated/100743158
>
>
> What a fuckwit.
>
> They should never have let the unvaccinated cuntbag into the country in
> the first place, and after insane rants like this they should never let
> him back in ever again.
>
>
>
>
>
>
Some scumbag in Tennis Australia has some questions to answer, those
fools seem to be concerned about the bank balance than anything else.
Even if they don't give a shit about the fans you would thing that they
would care about the other players but apparently not.

--
Daryl

On 7/01/2022 1:22 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 7/1/22 8:09 am, lindsay wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Morrison and his like have dared attack Novak to bring Serbia to its
>> knees," Mr Djokovic said.
>>
>> "To it's knees"? WTF? But the fruitcake didnt say *why*...
>>
>> and:
>>
>> "They're stomping all over Novak to stomp all over Serbia and Serbian
>> people."
>>
>> Huh? ramblings of a man with severe issues...
>>
>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-dad-says-deportation-is-politically-motivated/100743158
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Looks like all the mental asylums in Serbia are already full:-)
> That bloke is a certifiable lunatic.

Most people from that part of the world are.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 7/01/2022 1:31 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 7/1/22 8:16 am, Noddy wrote:

>> They should never have let the unvaccinated cuntbag into the country
>> in the first place, and after insane rants like this they should never
>> let him back in ever again.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Some scumbag in Tennis Australia has some questions to answer, those
> fools seem to be concerned about the bank balance than anything else.
> Even if they don't give a shit about the fans you would thing that they
> would care about the other players but apparently not.

It's all about the money.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 7/1/22 1:34 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 7/01/2022 1:22 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 7/1/22 8:09 am, lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Morrison and his like have dared attack Novak to bring Serbia to its
>>> knees," Mr Djokovic said.
>>>
>>> "To it's knees"? WTF? But the fruitcake didnt say *why*...
>>>
>>> and:
>>>
>>> "They're stomping all over Novak to stomp all over Serbia and Serbian
>>> people."
>>>
>>> Huh? ramblings of a man with severe issues...
>>>
>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-dad-says-deportation-is-politically-motivated/100743158
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Looks like all the mental asylums in Serbia are already full:-)
>> That bloke is a certifiable lunatic.
>
> Most people from that part of the world are.
>
>
>
As are people from the Merrimu Mesa.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

Xeno wrote:
>On 7/1/22 11:32 am, John_H wrote:
>> lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> "Morrison and his like have dared attack Novak to bring Serbia to its
>>> knees," Mr Djokovic said.
>>>
>>> "To it's knees"? WTF? But the fruitcake didnt say *why*...
>>>
>>> and:
>>>
>>> "They're stomping all over Novak to stomp all over Serbia and Serbian
>>> people."
>>>
>>> Huh? ramblings of a man with severe issues...
>>>
>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-dad-says-deportation-is-politically-motivated/100743158
>>
>> Clearly there's been a stuff up at some level of government, whether
>> it be the Vics or the Feds (I'm inclined to suspect the Feds).
>>
>> Djokovic Senior's rant isn't going to elicit much sympathy from the
>> locals, lest they be Serbs, but I'd be far more interested in finding
>> out who issued a visa that didn't meet the entry requirements when
>> Novak's camp had obviously been led to believe it did.
>>
>> Nor is it likely to be an isolated case.
>>
>I got the impression he was issued the visa with the proviso he provide
>substantive proof on arrival. He was asked for it, he was unable to
>supply anything other than a couple of reccomendations.

Contradictory media reports only serve to confuse the issue but I
would've thought he'd need his visa to be fully approved before he
could enter the country.

Visas are also a sore point with me as I'm currently waiting on a
subclass 496 visa for a diesel mechanic for which the application was
lodged in April 2021 through a solicitor who specialises in visa
applications. Originally told it would normally take three weeks to
process but covid has thrown the situation into chaos.

In the case of the 496 visa the relevant state government needs to
endorse the application but the feds still have issue it... as I'd
expect to be the case with Djokovic even if the respective governments
are prepared to short circuit the application process for Tennis
Australia.

--
John H

Noddy wrote:
>On 7/01/2022 11:32 am, John_H wrote:
>> lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> "Morrison and his like have dared attack Novak to bring Serbia to its
>>> knees," Mr Djokovic said.
>>>
>>> "To it's knees"? WTF? But the fruitcake didnt say *why*...
>>>
>>> and:
>>>
>>> "They're stomping all over Novak to stomp all over Serbia and Serbian
>>> people."
>>>
>>> Huh? ramblings of a man with severe issues...
>>>
>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-dad-says-deportation-is-politically-motivated/100743158
>>
>> Clearly there's been a stuff up at some level of government, whether
>> it be the Vics or the Feds (I'm inclined to suspect the Feds).
>
>The conditions that need to be met to enter the country come under
>Federal authority, but I'd personally be putting the blame for this in
>Novak's camp. They're the ones who applied for the visa.

Since when does a visa application allow the applicant to enter the
country?
>
>> Djokovic Senior's rant isn't going to elicit much sympathy from the
>> locals, lest they be Serbs, but I'd be far more interested in finding
>> out who issued a visa that didn't meet the entry requirements when
>> Novak's camp had obviously been led to believe it did.
>
>Novak's camp has had *months* to get this sorted, and after all the
>media attention and speculation they've *still* managed to fuck it up.

As I see it the fuck up is down to whoever issued the visa he would've
needed to get in.
>
>> Nor is it likely to be an isolated case.
>
>Can't comment on that, but if other people have been kicked out of the
>country for the same issues then he should be too. As Rafael Nadal was
>quoted as saying in this morning's paper, "He could have avoided all
>this by just being vaccinated".

Of course he could've but the real issue remains as to who let him in
without being vaccinated! It also appears that others have been
allowed in on the basis of similar applications initiated by Tennis
Australia, for which final approval needs to come from whoever's
responsible within the federal government. If whoever polices it
happens to disagree it then becomes a matter of which Ministers' heads
need banging together but don't expect that to happen anytime soon.

--
John H

On 7/1/22 3:29 pm, John_H wrote:
> Xeno wrote:
>> On 7/1/22 11:32 am, John_H wrote:
>>> lindsay wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Morrison and his like have dared attack Novak to bring Serbia to its
>>>> knees," Mr Djokovic said.
>>>>
>>>> "To it's knees"? WTF? But the fruitcake didnt say *why*...
>>>>
>>>> and:
>>>>
>>>> "They're stomping all over Novak to stomp all over Serbia and Serbian
>>>> people."
>>>>
>>>> Huh? ramblings of a man with severe issues...
>>>>
>>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-dad-says-deportation-is-politically-motivated/100743158
>>>
>>> Clearly there's been a stuff up at some level of government, whether
>>> it be the Vics or the Feds (I'm inclined to suspect the Feds).
>>>
>>> Djokovic Senior's rant isn't going to elicit much sympathy from the
>>> locals, lest they be Serbs, but I'd be far more interested in finding
>>> out who issued a visa that didn't meet the entry requirements when
>>> Novak's camp had obviously been led to believe it did.
>>>
>>> Nor is it likely to be an isolated case.
>>>
>> I got the impression he was issued the visa with the proviso he provide
>> substantive proof on arrival. He was asked for it, he was unable to
>> supply anything other than a couple of reccomendations.
>
> Contradictory media reports only serve to confuse the issue but I
> would've thought he'd need his visa to be fully approved before he
> could enter the country.

Visa applicants are in a world of pain currently with all the Covid
restrictions and delays due to Covid generally.
>
> Visas are also a sore point with me as I'm currently waiting on a
> subclass 496 visa for a diesel mechanic for which the application was
> lodged in April 2021 through a solicitor who specialises in visa
> applications. Originally told it would normally take three weeks to
> process but covid has thrown the situation into chaos.

Yes, definitely. Have friends here in similar situations - though not
related to work visas.
>
> In the case of the 496 visa the relevant state government needs to
> endorse the application but the feds still have issue it... as I'd
> expect to be the case with Djokovic even if the respective governments
> are prepared to short circuit the application process for Tennis
> Australia.
>

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 08:09:39 +1100, lindsay posted:-

> "Morrison and his like have dared attack Novak to bring Serbia to its
> knees," Mr Djokovic said.
>
> "To it's knees"? WTF? But the fruitcake didnt say *why*...
>
> and:
>
> "They're stomping all over Novak to stomp all over Serbia and Serbian
> people."
>
> Huh? ramblings of a man with severe issues...
>
> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-dad-says-deportation-is-politically-motivated/100743158
>
>
I doubt if more than a few small % of Australian could even find that
flea bag Serbia on the map.

And apparently, Novak Dopeybitch is Jesus Christ returned to earth?

“Jesus was crucified on the cross … but he is still alive among us.
They are trying to crucify and belittle Novak and throw him to his
knees,” Djokovic's father said.

Fucking simpletons!

On 7/01/2022 4:08 pm, John_H wrote:
> Noddy wrote:

>> The conditions that need to be met to enter the country come under
>> Federal authority, but I'd personally be putting the blame for this in
>> Novak's camp. They're the ones who applied for the visa.
>
> Since when does a visa application allow the applicant to enter the
> country?

I think it largely depends on what visa he applies for.

>>> Djokovic Senior's rant isn't going to elicit much sympathy from the
>>> locals, lest they be Serbs, but I'd be far more interested in finding
>>> out who issued a visa that didn't meet the entry requirements when
>>> Novak's camp had obviously been led to believe it did.
>>
>> Novak's camp has had *months* to get this sorted, and after all the
>> media attention and speculation they've *still* managed to fuck it up.
>
> As I see it the fuck up is down to whoever issued the visa he would've
> needed to get in.

Not according to the media.

According to reports in todays Herald-Sun in his initial application for
a medical exception to play at the Oz Open he cited two letters from
doctors claiming that he had legitimate medical grounds to not be
vaccinated. The report didn't go into detail as to what those grounds
were, other than to say that he was "medically exempt", and the review
panel of Tennis Australia and subsequent independent review panel
accepted his application and granted him an exemption to play.

However on his Visa application he also put down "medically exempt" but
upon arrival here in Melbourne he had no documentation to support that
claim and instead cited the fact that as he had contracted Covid within
the last 6 months making him "immune" and also exempt from being
vaccinated, he was therefore not bound by the rule of needing to be
vaccinated to enter the country.

Border control rejected his the basis that they *don't* accept
previously having had Covid as sufficient grounds to provide a medical
exempetion to the vaccination requirements one needs to comply with in
order to enter the county, and he is now in detention awaiting the
outcome of an appeal.

Djokovic would have known all this in advance, or at least should have
been made aware by his "people" given all the media hype that's been
going on about his atendence here for weeks now, and if what the media
is saying is true then he lied in making his application and should be
deported in my opinion.

>> Can't comment on that, but if other people have been kicked out of the
>> country for the same issues then he should be too. As Rafael Nadal was
>> quoted as saying in this morning's paper, "He could have avoided all
>> this by just being vaccinated".
>
> Of course he could've but the real issue remains as to who let him in
> without being vaccinated! It also appears that others have been
> allowed in on the basis of similar applications initiated by Tennis
> Australia, for which final approval needs to come from whoever's
> responsible within the federal government. If whoever polices it
> happens to disagree it then becomes a matter of which Ministers' heads
> need banging together but don't expect that to happen anytime soon.

My understanding is that there are currently 6 players who have applied
for and received medical exemptions to both enter the country and play
in the OZ open. Djokovic is the only one who hasn't met the border
control requirements.

This whole incident also opens up an interesting can of worms in the
form of why both the Tennis Australia and Independent Review Panel
considered him to be legitimately medically exempt, but not Border
control. Given that he seems to have provided different "evidence" to
Border Control than he did the review panels, I can't help but wonder if
he knew in advance what the outcome of the review panels would be and
simply needed to provide "documentation" in order to make it look
official, but was aware that said documentation wouldn't cut it with
Border Control and thought it best to rely on something else to satisfy
that requirement.

Either way, it's all turned to shit and couldn't have happened to a more
deserving "champion" :)

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 7/1/22 4:38 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 7/1/22 3:29 pm, John_H wrote:
>> Xeno wrote:
>>> On 7/1/22 11:32 am, John_H wrote:
>>>> lindsay wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Morrison and his like have dared attack Novak to bring Serbia to its
>>>>> knees," Mr Djokovic said.
>>>>>
>>>>> "To it's knees"? WTF? But the fruitcake didnt say *why*...
>>>>>
>>>>> and:
>>>>>
>>>>> "They're stomping all over Novak to stomp all over Serbia and Serbian
>>>>> people."
>>>>>
>>>>> Huh? ramblings of a man with severe issues...
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-dad-says-deportation-is-politically-motivated/100743158
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Clearly there's been a stuff up at some level of government, whether
>>>> it be the Vics or the Feds (I'm inclined to suspect the Feds).
>>>>
>>>> Djokovic Senior's rant isn't going to elicit much sympathy from the
>>>> locals, lest they be Serbs, but I'd be far more interested in finding
>>>> out who issued a visa that didn't meet the entry requirements when
>>>> Novak's camp had obviously been led to believe it did.
>>>>
>>>> Nor is it likely to be an isolated case.
>>>>
>>> I got the impression he was issued the visa with the proviso he provide
>>> substantive proof on arrival. He was asked for it, he was unable to
>>> supply anything other than a couple of reccomendations.
>>
>> Contradictory media reports only serve to confuse the issue but I
>> would've thought he'd need his visa to be fully approved before he
>> could enter the country.
>
> Visa applicants are in a world of pain currently with all the Covid
> restrictions and delays due to Covid generally.
>>
>> Visas are also a sore point with me as  I'm currently waiting on a
>> subclass 496 visa for a diesel mechanic for which the application was
>> lodged in April 2021 through a solicitor who specialises in visa
>> applications.  Originally told it would normally take three weeks to
>> process but covid has thrown the situation into chaos.
>
> Yes, definitely. Have friends here in similar situations - though not
> related to work visas.
>>
>> In the case of the 496 visa the relevant state government needs to
>> endorse the application but the feds still have issue it... as I'd
>> expect to be the case with Djokovic even if the respective governments
>> are prepared to short circuit the application process for Tennis
>> Australia.
>>
>
>
I was under the impression that his application was vetted by two
different teams blind and aproved

On 7/01/2022 3:29 pm, John_H wrote:
> Xeno wrote:

>>> Djokovic Senior's rant isn't going to elicit much sympathy from the
>>> locals, lest they be Serbs, but I'd be far more interested in finding
>>> out who issued a visa that didn't meet the entry requirements when
>>> Novak's camp had obviously been led to believe it did.
>>>
>>> Nor is it likely to be an isolated case.
>>>
>> I got the impression he was issued the visa with the proviso he provide
>> substantive proof on arrival. He was asked for it, he was unable to
>> supply anything other than a couple of reccomendations.
>
> Contradictory media reports only serve to confuse the issue but I
> would've thought he'd need his visa to be fully approved before he
> could enter the country.

It sounds like there was some supporting documentation needed to satisfy
Border Control that he didn't have.
> Visas are also a sore point with me as I'm currently waiting on a
> subclass 496 visa for a diesel mechanic for which the application was
> lodged in April 2021 through a solicitor who specialises in visa
> applications. Originally told it would normally take three weeks to
> process but covid has thrown the situation into chaos.
>
> In the case of the 496 visa the relevant state government needs to
> endorse the application but the feds still have issue it... as I'd
> expect to be the case with Djokovic even if the respective governments
> are prepared to short circuit the application process for Tennis
> Australia.

Not sure if that's the case.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 7/1/22 10:46 pm, F Murtz wrote:
> On 7/1/22 4:38 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 7/1/22 3:29 pm, John_H wrote:
>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 7/1/22 11:32 am, John_H wrote:
>>>>> lindsay wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Morrison and his like have dared attack Novak to bring Serbia to its
>>>>>> knees," Mr Djokovic said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "To it's knees"? WTF? But the fruitcake didnt say *why*...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "They're stomping all over Novak to stomp all over Serbia and Serbian
>>>>>> people."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Huh? ramblings of a man with severe issues...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-dad-says-deportation-is-politically-motivated/100743158
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly there's been a stuff up at some level of government, whether
>>>>> it be the Vics or the Feds (I'm inclined to suspect the Feds).
>>>>>
>>>>> Djokovic Senior's rant isn't going to elicit much sympathy from the
>>>>> locals, lest they be Serbs, but I'd be far more interested in finding
>>>>> out who issued a visa that didn't meet the entry requirements when
>>>>> Novak's camp had obviously been led to believe it did.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nor is it likely to be an isolated case.
>>>>>
>>>> I got the impression he was issued the visa with the proviso he provide
>>>> substantive proof on arrival. He was asked for it, he was unable to
>>>> supply anything other than a couple of reccomendations.
>>>
>>> Contradictory media reports only serve to confuse the issue but I
>>> would've thought he'd need his visa to be fully approved before he
>>> could enter the country.
>>
>> Visa applicants are in a world of pain currently with all the Covid
>> restrictions and delays due to Covid generally.
>>>
>>> Visas are also a sore point with me as  I'm currently waiting on a
>>> subclass 496 visa for a diesel mechanic for which the application was
>>> lodged in April 2021 through a solicitor who specialises in visa
>>> applications.  Originally told it would normally take three weeks to
>>> process but covid has thrown the situation into chaos.
>>
>> Yes, definitely. Have friends here in similar situations - though not
>> related to work visas.
>>>
>>> In the case of the 496 visa the relevant state government needs to
>>> endorse the application but the feds still have issue it... as I'd
>>> expect to be the case with Djokovic even if the respective governments
>>> are prepared to short circuit the application process for Tennis
>>> Australia.
>>>
>>
>>
> I was under the impression that his application was vetted by two
> different teams blind and aproved

I'd heard he was approved by the tennis mob and the Vic Govt. I was
wondering what the Vic Govt. had to do with *visas*. Always thought it
was a Federal responsibility. So many stories out there it is difficult
to know what is real and what is bullshit. A lot like Darren's tales in
fact. Been listening to some overseas media too and are they ever
putting a different spin on it compared to the *impression* I get here
in this country.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 7/01/2022 10:46 pm, F Murtz wrote:
> On 7/1/22 4:38 pm, Xeno wrote:

>>> In the case of the 496 visa the relevant state government needs to
>>> endorse the application but the feds still have issue it... as I'd
>>> expect to be the case with Djokovic even if the respective governments
>>> are prepared to short circuit the application process for Tennis
>>> Australia.
>>>
>>
>>
> I was under the impression that his application was vetted by two
> different teams blind and aproved

So they claim, but I would think that claiming with a straight face that
neither team knew who's application they were processing when making
their decisions is an insult to people's intelligence.

Given that Djokovic is the number 1 ranked male player in the world and
the defending Australian Open champion I'd bet very big money on the
fact that Tennis Australia was going to do whatever was necessary to
ensure he was permitted to play, and I'd *also* place a sizeable wager
that the very fact that the Andrews Government set up the "Independent
Review Panel" to vet exemption applications after spending *weeks*
telling the media that no exemptions would be made suggests that the
whole process of "blind" application processing is all a charade set up
in a pathetic attempt to legitimize decisions that were made some time
ago regardless of what the public has been led to believe.

It's all blown up in their face now, and it's fucking *wonderful* :)

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 7/01/2022 2:29 pm, John_H wrote:
> Xeno wrote:
>> On 7/1/22 11:32 am, John_H wrote:
>>> lindsay wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Morrison and his like have dared attack Novak to bring Serbia to its
>>>> knees," Mr Djokovic said.
>>>>
>>>> "To it's knees"? WTF? But the fruitcake didnt say *why*...
>>>>
>>>> and:
>>>>
>>>> "They're stomping all over Novak to stomp all over Serbia and Serbian
>>>> people."
>>>>
>>>> Huh? ramblings of a man with severe issues...
>>>>
>>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-dad-says-deportation-is-politically-motivated/100743158
>>>
>>> Clearly there's been a stuff up at some level of government, whether
>>> it be the Vics or the Feds (I'm inclined to suspect the Feds).
>>>
>>> Djokovic Senior's rant isn't going to elicit much sympathy from the
>>> locals, lest they be Serbs, but I'd be far more interested in finding
>>> out who issued a visa that didn't meet the entry requirements when
>>> Novak's camp had obviously been led to believe it did.
>>>
>>> Nor is it likely to be an isolated case.
>>>
>> I got the impression he was issued the visa with the proviso he provide
>> substantive proof on arrival. He was asked for it, he was unable to
>> supply anything other than a couple of reccomendations.
>
> Contradictory media reports only serve to confuse the issue but I
> would've thought he'd need his visa to be fully approved before he
> could enter the country.
>
> Visas are also a sore point with me as I'm currently waiting on a
> subclass 496 visa for a diesel mechanic for which the application was
> lodged in April 2021 through a solicitor who specialises in visa
> applications. Originally told it would normally take three weeks to
> process but covid has thrown the situation into chaos.
>
> In the case of the 496 visa the relevant state government needs to
> endorse the application but the feds still have issue it... as I'd
> expect to be the case with Djokovic even if the respective governments
> are prepared to short circuit the application process for Tennis
> Australia.
>
Most visas that I have had are only the first step, you then have to
front up to immigration and prove what you said on your application. The
application is only checked by a computer program, you don't usually
have to provide proof at that point.

On 7/01/2022 9:46 pm, F Murtz wrote:
> On 7/1/22 4:38 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 7/1/22 3:29 pm, John_H wrote:
>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 7/1/22 11:32 am, John_H wrote:
>>>>> lindsay wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Morrison and his like have dared attack Novak to bring Serbia to its
>>>>>> knees," Mr Djokovic said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "To it's knees"? WTF? But the fruitcake didnt say *why*...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "They're stomping all over Novak to stomp all over Serbia and Serbian
>>>>>> people."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Huh? ramblings of a man with severe issues...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-dad-says-deportation-is-politically-motivated/100743158
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly there's been a stuff up at some level of government, whether
>>>>> it be the Vics or the Feds (I'm inclined to suspect the Feds).
>>>>>
>>>>> Djokovic Senior's rant isn't going to elicit much sympathy from the
>>>>> locals, lest they be Serbs, but I'd be far more interested in finding
>>>>> out who issued a visa that didn't meet the entry requirements when
>>>>> Novak's camp had obviously been led to believe it did.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nor is it likely to be an isolated case.
>>>>>
>>>> I got the impression he was issued the visa with the proviso he provide
>>>> substantive proof on arrival. He was asked for it, he was unable to
>>>> supply anything other than a couple of reccomendations.
>>>
>>> Contradictory media reports only serve to confuse the issue but I
>>> would've thought he'd need his visa to be fully approved before he
>>> could enter the country.
>>
>> Visa applicants are in a world of pain currently with all the Covid
>> restrictions and delays due to Covid generally.
>>>
>>> Visas are also a sore point with me as  I'm currently waiting on a
>>> subclass 496 visa for a diesel mechanic for which the application was
>>> lodged in April 2021 through a solicitor who specialises in visa
>>> applications.  Originally told it would normally take three weeks to
>>> process but covid has thrown the situation into chaos.
>>
>> Yes, definitely. Have friends here in similar situations - though not
>> related to work visas.
>>>
>>> In the case of the 496 visa the relevant state government needs to
>>> endorse the application but the feds still have issue it... as I'd
>>> expect to be the case with Djokovic even if the respective governments
>>> are prepared to short circuit the application process for Tennis
>>> Australia.
>>>
>>
>>
> I was under the impression that his application was vetted by two
> different teams blind and aproved

the visa application would just have gone to a computer, a relative of
mine used to work in that area of Border Force, checking the results of
automated application responses every time the rules changes.

On 7/01/2022 12:34 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 7/01/2022 1:22 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 7/1/22 8:09 am, lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Morrison and his like have dared attack Novak to bring Serbia to its
>>> knees," Mr Djokovic said.
>>>
>>> "To it's knees"? WTF? But the fruitcake didnt say *why*...
>>>
>>> and:
>>>
>>> "They're stomping all over Novak to stomp all over Serbia and Serbian
>>> people."
>>>
>>> Huh? ramblings of a man with severe issues...
>>>
>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-dad-says-deportation-is-politically-motivated/100743158
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Looks like all the mental asylums in Serbia are already full:-)
>> That bloke is a certifiable lunatic.
>
> Most people from that part of the world are.

Serbs certainly are look at their recent history of killing anybody they
didn't like.

lindsay wrote:
>
>
> "Morrison and his like have dared attack Novak to bring Serbia to its
> knees," Mr Djokovic said.
>
> "To it's knees"? WTF? But the fruitcake didnt say *why*...
>
> and:
>
> "They're stomping all over Novak to stomp all over Serbia and Serbian
> people."
>
> Huh? ramblings of a man with severe issues...
>
> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-dad-says-deportation-is-politically-motivated/100743158
>
>

Yes his dad is a religious-right ultra-nationalist nutjob.
Actually I pity Novax, you cannot choose yer parents.

On 7/1/22 11:32 am, John_H wrote:
> lindsay wrote:
>>
>> "Morrison and his like have dared attack Novak to bring Serbia to its
>> knees," Mr Djokovic said.
>>
>> "To it's knees"? WTF? But the fruitcake didnt say *why*...
>>
>> and:
>>
>> "They're stomping all over Novak to stomp all over Serbia and Serbian
>> people."
>>
>> Huh? ramblings of a man with severe issues...
>>
>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/novak-djokovic-dad-says-deportation-is-politically-motivated/100743158
>
> Clearly there's been a stuff up at some level of government, whether
> it be the Vics or the Feds (I'm inclined to suspect the Feds).

Doubt it, more likely Tennis Australia and or the Vic Govt, my moneys on
the tennis mob who stand to loose a lot of money if he isn't there so
they did something dodgy to try and avoid the rules
>
> Djokovic Senior's rant isn't going to elicit much sympathy from the
> locals, lest they be Serbs,

Not even most of them, my wife was born in Serbia and if she was in
charge he would already be gone.

--
Daryl