On Fri, 20 May 2022 19:07:02 +0100, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 20 May 2022 08:01:04 -0400, rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> wrote:
>
>> On 2022-05-19 3:02 p.m., Ken Blake wrote:
>>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 12:02:01 -0400, rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-05-19 11:24 a.m., Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 06:48:01 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I deliberately bought a case with no spaces for optical drives,
>>>>>>>>>> leaving my BD-RE in my old computer. It's just not needed for
>>>>>>>>>> anything, anymore.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Except fixing the fucked OS. And passing several GB to a friend.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I installed Win10 from a USB drive, and could use that for physical
>>>>>>>> media to give files to someone else.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Show me where you can buy a large USB drive that isn't a fake. They seem to be so easy to reprogram.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a large one that I leave plugged in all the time,
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a thumb drive, so it's only one kind of USB drive, There are
>>>>> many *much* larger USB HDs. I have a couple that are 2TB, and some are
>>>>> much lager than that.
>>>>>
>>>>> As he usually does, Commander Kinsey gets whatever he says wrong.
>>>>> Besides being wrong about large drives always being fake, this time he
>>>>> says USB drive when he means USB *thumb* drive (or flash drive or pen
>>>>> drive, if you prefer one of those names; I prefer "thumb" drive sine
>>>>> that's what they were originally called). That's why he's killfiled
>>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>> As far as I know, he suggested that thumb drives don't store anything
>>>> over the first 64GB regardless of what they claim.
>>>
>>>
>>> No. See the quote above. He said "Show me where you can buy a large
>>> USB drive that isn't a fake. " He said "USB drive," not "thumb drive."
>>>
>>> And that suggestion is complete nonsense, even if he meant "thumb
>>> drive."
>>
>> Admittedly, saying "USB drive" made the statement erroneous but yes, it
>> was clear that he was referring to "thumb drives" or "USB keys" as I
>> call them.
>
> Clear to you, not to me. But I admit that after rereading his message,
> I thought that was probably what he meant.
>
>
> The fact that there are some available in the 128GB variety
>> and possibly in 256GB immediately contradicts his statement. However, he
>> is right that there is a large amount of such drives being sold as
>> having a ridiculous capacity all the while not being able to store even
>> a fraction of what they claim. Disreputable brands often sell 1TB ones
>> which are basically just reprogrammed 16GB drives.
>>
>>>> As far as I know,
>>>> this is only true of disreputable brands. When I had a 128GB thumb drive
>>>> made by Kingston, it worked just fine and storage more than 64GB regularly.
>>>
>>> Same here. I have several, made by several different companies.
>>
>> I've never had trouble with Kingston and their hardware is reasonably
>> priced so I go to them even when I know that there are faster alternatives.
>>
>> < snip >
>>
>>>> He must have absolute trust in his anti-virus.
>>>
>>> But I completely disagree with that. It's foolhardy to have absolute
>>> trust in any anti-virus. No anti-virus is perfect, and even if it were
>>> perfect today, it wouldn't be perfect tomorrow. New viruses come out
>>> every day, and no AV software can keep up with everything that just
>>> came out.
>>>
>>> That's why regardless of what security software someone uses, he
>>> should also always practice safe hex.
>>
>> That's true but anti-virus software is at least capable of detecting
>> illicit behaviour if ever it can't detect the virus outright. As long as
>> the user is purchasing decent protection from a company like McAfee or
>> Norton, they should be fine.
>
> I disagree. As far as I'm concerned, despite their popularity, McAfee
> and Norton are two of the poorest antivirus programs. Moreover I
> disagree that any anti-virus program is ever completely fine. The best
> ones minimize risk; they don't eliminate it.

Symantec (not my choice) once let the Nimda virus into my workplace. I switched to AVG after that. Free too.

On Fri, 20 May 2022 20:15:08 +0100, rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> wrote:

> On 2022-05-20 2:07 p.m., Ken Blake wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 May 2022 08:01:04 -0400, rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-05-19 3:02 p.m., Ken Blake wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 12:02:01 -0400, rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2022-05-19 11:24 a.m., Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 06:48:01 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I deliberately bought a case with no spaces for optical drives,
>>>>>>>>>>> leaving my BD-RE in my old computer. It's just not needed for
>>>>>>>>>>> anything, anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Except fixing the fucked OS. And passing several GB to a friend.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I installed Win10 from a USB drive, and could use that for physical
>>>>>>>>> media to give files to someone else.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Show me where you can buy a large USB drive that isn't a fake. They seem to be so easy to reprogram.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a large one that I leave plugged in all the time,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's a thumb drive, so it's only one kind of USB drive, There are
>>>>>> many *much* larger USB HDs. I have a couple that are 2TB, and some are
>>>>>> much lager than that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As he usually does, Commander Kinsey gets whatever he says wrong.
>>>>>> Besides being wrong about large drives always being fake, this time he
>>>>>> says USB drive when he means USB *thumb* drive (or flash drive or pen
>>>>>> drive, if you prefer one of those names; I prefer "thumb" drive sine
>>>>>> that's what they were originally called). That's why he's killfiled
>>>>>> here.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I know, he suggested that thumb drives don't store anything
>>>>> over the first 64GB regardless of what they claim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No. See the quote above. He said "Show me where you can buy a large
>>>> USB drive that isn't a fake. " He said "USB drive," not "thumb drive."
>>>>
>>>> And that suggestion is complete nonsense, even if he meant "thumb
>>>> drive."
>>>
>>> Admittedly, saying "USB drive" made the statement erroneous but yes, it
>>> was clear that he was referring to "thumb drives" or "USB keys" as I
>>> call them.
>>
>> Clear to you, not to me. But I admit that after rereading his message,
>> I thought that was probably what he meant.
>
> I think that most people who read the post knew very well what he meant.
> I suspect that you're purposefully being obtuse.

Do not ever back me up again, or you might find me in bed with you.

>>>>> He must have absolute trust in his anti-virus.
>>>>
>>>> But I completely disagree with that. It's foolhardy to have absolute
>>>> trust in any anti-virus. No anti-virus is perfect, and even if it were
>>>> perfect today, it wouldn't be perfect tomorrow. New viruses come out
>>>> every day, and no AV software can keep up with everything that just
>>>> came out.
>>>>
>>>> That's why regardless of what security software someone uses, he
>>>> should also always practice safe hex.
>>>
>>> That's true but anti-virus software is at least capable of detecting
>>> illicit behaviour if ever it can't detect the virus outright. As long as
>>> the user is purchasing decent protection from a company like McAfee or
>>> Norton, they should be fine.
>>
>> I disagree. As far as I'm concerned, despite their popularity, McAfee
>> and Norton are two of the poorest antivirus programs. Moreover I
>> disagree that any anti-virus program is ever completely fine. The best
>> ones minimize risk; they don't eliminate it.
>
> Except that you are wholly incorrect in your assessment. McAfee and
> Norton both routinely rank at the very top when it comes to virus
> protection. According to
> <https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/home-windows/>, McAfee gets three
> perfect 6 scores as does Norton. If any person here has either installed
> on their system, they're as well protected as they can be even though
> caution is still recommended.

ROTFPMSL! Norton is a piece of shit. It missed loads of stuff and often grinds the system to a halt.

On Sat, 21 May 2022 06:55:39 +0100, ...winston <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ken Blake wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 May 2022 08:01:04 -0400, rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-05-19 3:02 p.m., Ken Blake wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 12:02:01 -0400, rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2022-05-19 11:24 a.m., Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 06:48:01 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I deliberately bought a case with no spaces for optical drives,
>>>>>>>>>>> leaving my BD-RE in my old computer. It's just not needed for
>>>>>>>>>>> anything, anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Except fixing the fucked OS. And passing several GB to a friend.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I installed Win10 from a USB drive, and could use that for physical
>>>>>>>>> media to give files to someone else.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Show me where you can buy a large USB drive that isn't a fake. They seem to be so easy to reprogram.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a large one that I leave plugged in all the time,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's a thumb drive, so it's only one kind of USB drive, There are
>>>>>> many *much* larger USB HDs. I have a couple that are 2TB, and some are
>>>>>> much lager than that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As he usually does, Commander Kinsey gets whatever he says wrong.
>>>>>> Besides being wrong about large drives always being fake, this time he
>>>>>> says USB drive when he means USB *thumb* drive (or flash drive or pen
>>>>>> drive, if you prefer one of those names; I prefer "thumb" drive sine
>>>>>> that's what they were originally called). That's why he's killfiled
>>>>>> here.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I know, he suggested that thumb drives don't store anything
>>>>> over the first 64GB regardless of what they claim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No. See the quote above. He said "Show me where you can buy a large
>>>> USB drive that isn't a fake. " He said "USB drive," not "thumb drive."
>>>>
>>>> And that suggestion is complete nonsense, even if he meant "thumb
>>>> drive."
>>>
>>> Admittedly, saying "USB drive" made the statement erroneous but yes, it
>>> was clear that he was referring to "thumb drives" or "USB keys" as I
>>> call them.
>>
>> Clear to you, not to me. But I admit that after rereading his message,
>> I thought that was probably what he meant.
>>
>>
>> The fact that there are some available in the 128GB variety
>>> and possibly in 256GB immediately contradicts his statement. However, he
>>> is right that there is a large amount of such drives being sold as
>>> having a ridiculous capacity all the while not being able to store even
>>> a fraction of what they claim. Disreputable brands often sell 1TB ones
>>> which are basically just reprogrammed 16GB drives.
>>>
>>>>> As far as I know,
>>>>> this is only true of disreputable brands. When I had a 128GB thumb drive
>>>>> made by Kingston, it worked just fine and storage more than 64GB regularly.
>>>>
>>>> Same here. I have several, made by several different companies.
>>>
>>> I've never had trouble with Kingston and their hardware is reasonably
>>> priced so I go to them even when I know that there are faster alternatives.
>>>
>>> < snip >
>>>
>>>>> He must have absolute trust in his anti-virus.
>>>>
>>>> But I completely disagree with that. It's foolhardy to have absolute
>>>> trust in any anti-virus. No anti-virus is perfect, and even if it were
>>>> perfect today, it wouldn't be perfect tomorrow. New viruses come out
>>>> every day, and no AV software can keep up with everything that just
>>>> came out.
>>>>
>>>> That's why regardless of what security software someone uses, he
>>>> should also always practice safe hex.
>>>
>>> That's true but anti-virus software is at least capable of detecting
>>> illicit behaviour if ever it can't detect the virus outright. As long as
>>> the user is purchasing decent protection from a company like McAfee or
>>> Norton, they should be fine.
>>
>> I disagree. As far as I'm concerned, despite their popularity, McAfee
>> and Norton are two of the poorest antivirus programs. Moreover I
>> disagree that any anti-virus program is ever completely fine. The best
>> ones minimize risk; they don't eliminate it.
>>
>
> While I wouldn't recommend Norton or McAfee it's long past good or poor
> - the technology for monitoring, deploying defs, and protection has
> reached the point of near equality when placed in use and update
> engine/def maintained.
> That equality extends to the free and subscription products.
> Norton and McAfee like many other products(some that used to be free)
> are subscription based.
> If using Windows 10/11 and practicing safe computing the included
> Windows Security meets consumer needs.
> - The number of free AV for Windows is limited(Avast is one and Total
> AV has a free version but it's a stripped down version only providing
> scan and malware removal not real-time protection
> (i.e. Windows Security for most is logical choice.
>
> Good or Poor - maybe applied a decade ago, today...not so much.

I thought all AV was free for windows. And I would never trust a MS AV.

"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

>> I don't interfere with Windows Security scanning incoming executable
>> stuff,
>
>Microsoft have never and will never write a reliable anti-anything.

It's good enough for me. I'm not going to take time and money to
install third party anti-malware software. I like the fact that it's
included with Windows.

>> and I don't introduce questionable stuff to the system to begin
>> with. I apply updates religiously.
>
>Does that mean on your knees?

It means I don't fail to apply them.

--
Joel Crump

"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 20 May 2022 13:02:18 +0100, rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> wrote:
>
>> Gone are the days of the late 80s and early 90s where trading disks was
>> the norm as was getting a virus from that disk.
>
>That's naughty. Don't talk about games swapping in front of the religious moron Joel.

I honestly don't care that you're a software pirate. It's your own
loss, really. You would sacrifice the quality of using your
computers, to save some money. You are screwing yourself much more
than the makers of the software.

--
Joel Crump

On 2022-05-28 7:07 a.m., Joel wrote:
> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 May 2022 13:02:18 +0100, rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> Gone are the days of the late 80s and early 90s where trading disks was
>>> the norm as was getting a virus from that disk.
>>
>> That's naughty. Don't talk about games swapping in front of the religious moron Joel.
>
>
> I honestly don't care that you're a software pirate. It's your own
> loss, really. You would sacrifice the quality of using your
> computers, to save some money. You are screwing yourself much more
> than the makers of the software.

Agreed here. If Commander Kinsey finds Windows so unreliable that he
refuses to pay for it, he's free to install his choice of Linux
distribution which will be _so_ much better than Windows. He doesn't
feel bad that he's a thieving piece of crap, but if he installs Linux,
he can install whatever load of software he wants and not even _risk_
eventually feeling bad about not paying a dime.

--
rabidR04CH
Encrypt. Avoid social media. Stay sane.
Zephyrus G14 GA401QM on Windows 11
https://retalk.com/invite/rabidR04CH

rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> wrote:
>On 2022-05-28 7:07 a.m., Joel wrote:
>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 20 May 2022 13:02:18 +0100, rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gone are the days of the late 80s and early 90s where trading disks was
>>>> the norm as was getting a virus from that disk.
>>>
>>> That's naughty. Don't talk about games swapping in front of the religious moron Joel.
>>
>> I honestly don't care that you're a software pirate. It's your own
>> loss, really. You would sacrifice the quality of using your
>> computers, to save some money. You are screwing yourself much more
>> than the makers of the software.
>
>Agreed here. If Commander Kinsey finds Windows so unreliable that he
>refuses to pay for it, he's free to install his choice of Linux
>distribution which will be _so_ much better than Windows. He doesn't
>feel bad that he's a thieving piece of crap, but if he installs Linux,
>he can install whatever load of software he wants and not even _risk_
>eventually feeling bad about not paying a dime.

You would think the freeloaders would indeed do that. But no, people
who run Linux tend to actually give back to the projects, whether with
voluntary monetary contributions, or contributing code, assisting
others, etc. The freeloaders just do what the Commander does,
installing commercial software and cracking it.

--
Joel Crump

On Sat, 28 May 2022 07:04:46 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>> I don't interfere with Windows Security scanning incoming executable
>>> stuff,
>>
>>Microsoft have never and will never write a reliable anti-anything.

I disagree with "have never." I especially disagree with "will never."
It's a nonsensical statement. Neither he, nor anyone else can predict
the future reliably. None of us knows what will happen.

>It's good enough for me.

For me too.

>I'm not going to take time and money to
>install third party anti-malware software.

Time, yes. But not much time. Money, maybe, depending on what product
it is.

>I like the fact that it's
>included with Windows.

Not me. I like to choose the product I like best (anti-malware or
anything else) regardless of whether or not it's included with
Windows. For some things I use what comes with Windows, for others I
use other Microsoft products, and for still others, I use third-party
products.

Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

>>It's [Windows Security is] good enough for me.
>
>For me too.
>
>>I'm not going to take time and money to
>>install third party anti-malware software.
>
>Time, yes. But not much time. Money, maybe, depending on what product
>it is.

I would tend to think a free one wouldn't be any better than
Microsoft's own.

>>I like the fact that it's
>>included with Windows.
>
>Not me. I like to choose the product I like best (anti-malware or
>anything else) regardless of whether or not it's included with
>Windows. For some things I use what comes with Windows, for others I
>use other Microsoft products, and for still others, I use third-party
>products.

Sure, but for anti-malware, the included protection is good.

--
Joel Crump

On Sat, 28 May 2022 11:04:51 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>
>>>It's [Windows Security is] good enough for me.
>>
>>For me too.
>>
>>>I'm not going to take time and money to
>>>install third party anti-malware software.
>>
>>Time, yes. But not much time. Money, maybe, depending on what product
>>it is.
>
>
>I would tend to think a free one wouldn't be any better than
>Microsoft's own.

Perhaps true with security software, but not true with other types of
software.

>>>I like the fact that it's
>>>included with Windows.
>>
>>Not me. I like to choose the product I like best (anti-malware or
>>anything else) regardless of whether or not it's included with
>>Windows. For some things I use what comes with Windows, for others I
>>use other Microsoft products, and for still others, I use third-party
>>products.
>
>
>Sure,

Glad we agree.

>but for anti-malware, the included protection is good.

Yes.

Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

>>>>I like the fact that it's [Windows Security anti-malware is]
>>>>included with Windows.
>>>
>>>Not me. I like to choose the product I like best (anti-malware or
>>>anything else) regardless of whether or not it's included with
>>>Windows. For some things I use what comes with Windows, for others I
>>>use other Microsoft products, and for still others, I use third-party
>>>products.
>>
>>Sure,
>
>Glad we agree.

Certainly, when it comes to Web browsers, I'm not going to use Edge
primarily. And the new and disastrous Notepad has been replaced by
EditPad Lite. I do use Windows' email app, though, and the calculator
app. If it's good enough, and already there by default, it's good for
me.

--
Joel Crump

On Sat, 28 May 2022 11:37:08 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>I like the fact that it's [Windows Security anti-malware is]
>>>>>included with Windows.
>>>>
>>>>Not me. I like to choose the product I like best (anti-malware or
>>>>anything else) regardless of whether or not it's included with
>>>>Windows. For some things I use what comes with Windows, for others I
>>>>use other Microsoft products, and for still others, I use third-party
>>>>products.
>>>
>>>Sure,
>>
>>Glad we agree.
>
>
>Certainly, when it comes to Web browsers, I'm not going to use Edge
>primarily.

We agree, except for "primarily." I use Firefox exclusively. To me
Edge is the worst of all browsers, and Chrome, despite its great
popularity, is almost as bad.

>And the new and disastrous Notepad has been replaced by
>EditPad Lite.

I use Notepad very seldom and only for very simple things (mostly just
for editing my AutoHotkey file), so it's fine for me. I have Notepad++
installed to use for more complicated things, but I hardly ever use
it.

What do you like better about EditPad Lite? Do you think I should give
it a try?

> I do use Windows' email app, though,

Ugh! Another one I think is terrible--the worst e-mail program I've
ever tried. I use Thunderbird, which I greatly prefer.

>and the calculator app.

Another program I use seldom and only for simple calculations, so the
built-in calculator is also fine for me.

> If it's good enough, and already there by default, it's good for me.

On Sat, 28 May 2022 08:49:23 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

>>And the new and disastrous Notepad has been replaced by
>>EditPad Lite.
>
>I use Notepad very seldom and only for very simple things (mostly just
>for editing my AutoHotkey file), so it's fine for me. I have Notepad++
>installed to use for more complicated things, but I hardly ever use
>it.
>
>What do you like better about EditPad Lite? Do you think I should give
>it a try?

I just downloaded and installed the free version. I set it as the
default text editor and I'll give it a try.

But when I click on AutoHotkey and choose Edit, it still opens in
Notepad. Do you know of a way to have it open in EditPad Lite instead?

Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

>>Certainly, when it comes to Web browsers, I'm not going to use Edge
>>primarily.
>
>We agree, except for "primarily." I use Firefox exclusively. To me
>Edge is the worst of all browsers, and Chrome, despite its great
>popularity, is almost as bad.

Firefox is my default browser, but there are specific instances where
using Chrome, or even Edge, are indicated.

>>And the new and disastrous Notepad has been replaced by
>>EditPad Lite.
>
>I use Notepad very seldom and only for very simple things (mostly just
>for editing my AutoHotkey file), so it's fine for me. I have Notepad++
>installed to use for more complicated things, but I hardly ever use
>it.
>
>What do you like better about EditPad Lite? Do you think I should give
>it a try?

It was recommended to me a while back in another newsgroup, and at the
time I was still happy with the classic Windows Notepad, but when the
new one replaced it, I needed something that could handle large text
files. I've enjoyed using EditPad Lite, in every applicable way.

>> I do use Windows' email app, though,
>
>Ugh! Another one I think is terrible--the worst e-mail program I've
>ever tried. I use Thunderbird, which I greatly prefer.

It was very easy to use the Windows app, because my Microsoft account
email address was already set up in it, natively, and it easily added
my Gmail account as well. Admittedly, though, there are times I go on
the Web to write a reply.

--
Joel Crump

Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

>>What do you like better about EditPad Lite? Do you think I should give
>>it a try?
>
>I just downloaded and installed the free version. I set it as the
>default text editor and I'll give it a try.
>
>But when I click on AutoHotkey and choose Edit, it still opens in
>Notepad. Do you know of a way to have it open in EditPad Lite instead?

I am actually not familiar with AutoHotkey. Generally, you would have
specific file types set to open with the app of your choice, but I
don't know that it would apply to that function.

--
Joel Crump

On Sat, 28 May 2022 11:59:28 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>
>>>Certainly, when it comes to Web browsers, I'm not going to use Edge
>>>primarily.
>>
>>We agree, except for "primarily." I use Firefox exclusively. To me
>>Edge is the worst of all browsers, and Chrome, despite its great
>>popularity, is almost as bad.
>
>
>Firefox is my default browser, but there are specific instances where
>using Chrome, or even Edge, are indicated.
>
>
>>>And the new and disastrous Notepad has been replaced by
>>>EditPad Lite.
>>
>>I use Notepad very seldom and only for very simple things (mostly just
>>for editing my AutoHotkey file), so it's fine for me. I have Notepad++
>>installed to use for more complicated things, but I hardly ever use
>>it.
>>
>>What do you like better about EditPad Lite? Do you think I should give
>>it a try?
>
>
>It was recommended to me a while back in another newsgroup, and at the
>time I was still happy with the classic Windows Notepad, but when the
>new one replaced it, I needed something that could handle large text
>files. I've enjoyed using EditPad Lite, in every applicable way.

I almost never need to edit a large text file, but if I do, I use
Wordpad.

EditPad Lite looks very nice though.

However, as I said, the text file I most often edit is Autohotkey.ahk,
and that still opens in Notepad, since the default for .txt files
doesn't apply to it. Yes I could open it in EditPad Lite by finding
the file, right-clicking it, and choosing EditPad Lite, but that's a
lot of extra trouble. I hope there's some way to have it automatically
open in EditPad Lite. If I decide that I agree with you, and I prefer
it to Notepad, I'd like to use it all the time, not just for some
things.

I just found Options|Configure File Types in EditPad Lite.

Text document was set to *.txt, I changed it to
*.txt *.ahk
*.txt;*.ahk
*.txt; *.ahk
*.txt,*.ahk
*.txt; *.ahk

None of those worked.

Then I scrolled up to C source code, which I never use, and changed
its setting to *.ahk. That didn't work either.

Am I doing something wrong? Is there some way to make this work in
Options|Configure File Types? Or some other way to do it?

>>> I do use Windows' email app, though,
>>
>>Ugh! Another one I think is terrible--the worst e-mail program I've
>>ever tried. I use Thunderbird, which I greatly prefer.
>
>
>It was very easy to use the Windows app, because my Microsoft account
>email address was already set up in it, natively, and it easily added
>my Gmail account as well. Admittedly, though, there are times I go on
>the Web to write a reply.

Double Ugh! Using the Web for e-mail is even a worse choice, as far as
I'm concerned. I *never* do that.

It might be easy, but I want better, not easier. No e-mail program
I've ever tried is perfect. There are always some things I don't like
about any of them, but Thunderbird is the best I've ever tried.

Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

>>>What do you like better about EditPad Lite? Do you think I should give
>>>it a try?
>>
>>It was recommended to me a while back in another newsgroup, and at the
>>time I was still happy with the classic Windows Notepad, but when the
>>new one replaced it, I needed something that could handle large text
>>files. I've enjoyed using EditPad Lite, in every applicable way.
>
>I almost never need to edit a large text file, but if I do, I use
>Wordpad.
>
>EditPad Lite looks very nice though.
>
>However, as I said, the text file I most often edit is Autohotkey.ahk,
>and that still opens in Notepad, since the default for .txt files
>doesn't apply to it. Yes I could open it in EditPad Lite by finding
>the file, right-clicking it, and choosing EditPad Lite, but that's a
>lot of extra trouble. I hope there's some way to have it automatically
>open in EditPad Lite. If I decide that I agree with you, and I prefer
>it to Notepad, I'd like to use it all the time, not just for some
>things.
>
>I just found Options|Configure File Types in EditPad Lite.
>
>Text document was set to *.txt, I changed it to
>*.txt *.ahk
>*.txt;*.ahk
>*.txt; *.ahk
>*.txt,*.ahk
>*.txt; *.ahk
>
>None of those worked.
>
>Then I scrolled up to C source code, which I never use, and changed
>its setting to *.ahk. That didn't work either.
>
>Am I doing something wrong? Is there some way to make this work in
>Options|Configure File Types? Or some other way to do it?

Probably, you need to go into Windows settings, and make the app the
default for that file type.

>>>> I do use Windows' email app, though,
>>>
>>>Ugh! Another one I think is terrible--the worst e-mail program I've
>>>ever tried. I use Thunderbird, which I greatly prefer.
>>
>>It was very easy to use the Windows app, because my Microsoft account
>>email address was already set up in it, natively, and it easily added
>>my Gmail account as well. Admittedly, though, there are times I go on
>>the Web to write a reply.
>
>Double Ugh! Using the Web for e-mail is even a worse choice, as far as
>I'm concerned. I *never* do that.
>
>It might be easy, but I want better, not easier. No e-mail program
>I've ever tried is perfect. There are always some things I don't like
>about any of them, but Thunderbird is the best I've ever tried.

Email isn't something I use a whole lot, is the thing. If I were more
active on it, I probably would do similarly to you.

--
Joel Crump

On Sat, 28 May 2022 13:04:43 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>
>>>>What do you like better about EditPad Lite? Do you think I should give
>>>>it a try?
>>>
>>>It was recommended to me a while back in another newsgroup, and at the
>>>time I was still happy with the classic Windows Notepad, but when the
>>>new one replaced it, I needed something that could handle large text
>>>files. I've enjoyed using EditPad Lite, in every applicable way.
>>
>>I almost never need to edit a large text file, but if I do, I use
>>Wordpad.
>>
>>EditPad Lite looks very nice though.
>>
>>However, as I said, the text file I most often edit is Autohotkey.ahk,
>>and that still opens in Notepad, since the default for .txt files
>>doesn't apply to it. Yes I could open it in EditPad Lite by finding
>>the file, right-clicking it, and choosing EditPad Lite, but that's a
>>lot of extra trouble. I hope there's some way to have it automatically
>>open in EditPad Lite. If I decide that I agree with you, and I prefer
>>it to Notepad, I'd like to use it all the time, not just for some
>>things.
>>
>>I just found Options|Configure File Types in EditPad Lite.
>>
>>Text document was set to *.txt, I changed it to
>>*.txt *.ahk
>>*.txt;*.ahk
>>*.txt; *.ahk
>>*.txt,*.ahk
>>*.txt; *.ahk
>>
>>None of those worked.
>>
>>Then I scrolled up to C source code, which I never use, and changed
>>its setting to *.ahk. That didn't work either.
>>
>>Am I doing something wrong? Is there some way to make this work in
>>Options|Configure File Types? Or some other way to do it?
>
>
>Probably, you need to go into Windows settings, and make the app the
>default for that file type.

No, the default for the .ahk file type needs to be autohotkey.exe,
which it is. I want to change the default for *editing* the file type.
In EditPad Lite, I also tried adding a new file type, *.ahk. That also
didn't work.

>>>>> I do use Windows' email app, though,
>>>>
>>>>Ugh! Another one I think is terrible--the worst e-mail program I've
>>>>ever tried. I use Thunderbird, which I greatly prefer.
>>>
>>>It was very easy to use the Windows app, because my Microsoft account
>>>email address was already set up in it, natively, and it easily added
>>>my Gmail account as well. Admittedly, though, there are times I go on
>>>the Web to write a reply.
>>
>>Double Ugh! Using the Web for e-mail is even a worse choice, as far as
>>I'm concerned. I *never* do that.
>>
>>It might be easy, but I want better, not easier. No e-mail program
>>I've ever tried is perfect. There are always some things I don't like
>>about any of them, but Thunderbird is the best I've ever tried.
>
>
>Email isn't something I use a whole lot, is the thing. If I were more
>active on it, I probably would do similarly to you.

OK, I use e-mail a lot.

Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

>>>I almost never need to edit a large text file, but if I do, I use
>>>Wordpad.
>>>
>>>EditPad Lite looks very nice though.
>>>
>>>However, as I said, the text file I most often edit is Autohotkey.ahk,
>>>and that still opens in Notepad, since the default for .txt files
>>>doesn't apply to it. Yes I could open it in EditPad Lite by finding
>>>the file, right-clicking it, and choosing EditPad Lite, but that's a
>>>lot of extra trouble. I hope there's some way to have it automatically
>>>open in EditPad Lite. If I decide that I agree with you, and I prefer
>>>it to Notepad, I'd like to use it all the time, not just for some
>>>things.
>>>
>>>I just found Options|Configure File Types in EditPad Lite.
>>>
>>>Text document was set to *.txt, I changed it to
>>>*.txt *.ahk
>>>*.txt;*.ahk
>>>*.txt; *.ahk
>>>*.txt,*.ahk
>>>*.txt; *.ahk
>>>
>>>None of those worked.
>>>
>>>Then I scrolled up to C source code, which I never use, and changed
>>>its setting to *.ahk. That didn't work either.
>>>
>>>Am I doing something wrong? Is there some way to make this work in
>>>Options|Configure File Types? Or some other way to do it?
>>
>>Probably, you need to go into Windows settings, and make the app the
>>default for that file type.
>
>No, the default for the .ahk file type needs to be autohotkey.exe,
>which it is. I want to change the default for *editing* the file type.
>In EditPad Lite, I also tried adding a new file type, *.ahk. That also
>didn't work.

Ahh, in that case, I really couldn't tell you. There probably is some
trick to doing that, but I'm not aware of it offhand.

--
Joel Crump

On Sat, 28 May 2022 13:32:49 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>
>>>>I almost never need to edit a large text file, but if I do, I use
>>>>Wordpad.
>>>>
>>>>EditPad Lite looks very nice though.
>>>>
>>>>However, as I said, the text file I most often edit is Autohotkey.ahk,
>>>>and that still opens in Notepad, since the default for .txt files
>>>>doesn't apply to it. Yes I could open it in EditPad Lite by finding
>>>>the file, right-clicking it, and choosing EditPad Lite, but that's a
>>>>lot of extra trouble. I hope there's some way to have it automatically
>>>>open in EditPad Lite. If I decide that I agree with you, and I prefer
>>>>it to Notepad, I'd like to use it all the time, not just for some
>>>>things.
>>>>
>>>>I just found Options|Configure File Types in EditPad Lite.
>>>>
>>>>Text document was set to *.txt, I changed it to
>>>>*.txt *.ahk
>>>>*.txt;*.ahk
>>>>*.txt; *.ahk
>>>>*.txt,*.ahk
>>>>*.txt; *.ahk
>>>>
>>>>None of those worked.
>>>>
>>>>Then I scrolled up to C source code, which I never use, and changed
>>>>its setting to *.ahk. That didn't work either.
>>>>
>>>>Am I doing something wrong? Is there some way to make this work in
>>>>Options|Configure File Types? Or some other way to do it?
>>>
>>>Probably, you need to go into Windows settings, and make the app the
>>>default for that file type.
>>
>>No, the default for the .ahk file type needs to be autohotkey.exe,
>>which it is. I want to change the default for *editing* the file type.
>>In EditPad Lite, I also tried adding a new file type, *.ahk. That also
>>didn't work.
>
>
>Ahh, in that case, I really couldn't tell you. There probably is some
>trick to doing that, but I'm not aware of it offhand.

It's not critical, of course, but I'd like to be able to use the same
editor for all my text editing.

The problem is probably that my editing of the AHK file is done by
right-clicking the autohotkey task bar icon, and choosing "Edit this
script." not the way most .txt files are edited. If I edit the file by
choosing EditPad Lite from the Context Menu (I added it there), I can
do it that way, but that's extra trouble.

If anyone else here has any suggestions, I'm all ears.

On 5/28/2022 1:56 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Sat, 28 May 2022 13:32:49 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> I almost never need to edit a large text file, but if I do, I use
>>>>> Wordpad.
>>>>>
>>>>> EditPad Lite looks very nice though.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, as I said, the text file I most often edit is Autohotkey.ahk,
>>>>> and that still opens in Notepad, since the default for .txt files
>>>>> doesn't apply to it. Yes I could open it in EditPad Lite by finding
>>>>> the file, right-clicking it, and choosing EditPad Lite, but that's a
>>>>> lot of extra trouble. I hope there's some way to have it automatically
>>>>> open in EditPad Lite. If I decide that I agree with you, and I prefer
>>>>> it to Notepad, I'd like to use it all the time, not just for some
>>>>> things.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just found Options|Configure File Types in EditPad Lite.
>>>>>
>>>>> Text document was set to *.txt, I changed it to
>>>>> *.txt *.ahk
>>>>> *.txt;*.ahk
>>>>> *.txt; *.ahk
>>>>> *.txt,*.ahk
>>>>> *.txt; *.ahk
>>>>>
>>>>> None of those worked.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then I scrolled up to C source code, which I never use, and changed
>>>>> its setting to *.ahk. That didn't work either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Am I doing something wrong? Is there some way to make this work in
>>>>> Options|Configure File Types? Or some other way to do it?
>>>>
>>>> Probably, you need to go into Windows settings, and make the app the
>>>> default for that file type.
>>>
>>> No, the default for the .ahk file type needs to be autohotkey.exe,
>>> which it is. I want to change the default for *editing* the file type.
>>> In EditPad Lite, I also tried adding a new file type, *.ahk. That also
>>> didn't work.
>>
>>
>> Ahh, in that case, I really couldn't tell you. There probably is some
>> trick to doing that, but I'm not aware of it offhand.
>
>
> It's not critical, of course, but I'd like to be able to use the same
> editor for all my text editing.
>
> The problem is probably that my editing of the AHK file is done by
> right-clicking the autohotkey task bar icon, and choosing "Edit this
> script." not the way most .txt files are edited. If I edit the file by
> choosing EditPad Lite from the Context Menu (I added it there), I can
> do it that way, but that's extra trouble.
>
> If anyone else here has any suggestions, I'm all ears.

Windows Explorer, find ".ahk" file to edit, right click and select Open
With EditPad. Also a good free editor is Notepad++

On Sat, 28 May 2022 16:33:44 -0400, Zaidy036 <Eric@Bloch.com> wrote:

>On 5/28/2022 1:56 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 May 2022 13:32:49 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> I almost never need to edit a large text file, but if I do, I use
>>>>>> Wordpad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> EditPad Lite looks very nice though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, as I said, the text file I most often edit is Autohotkey.ahk,
>>>>>> and that still opens in Notepad, since the default for .txt files
>>>>>> doesn't apply to it. Yes I could open it in EditPad Lite by finding
>>>>>> the file, right-clicking it, and choosing EditPad Lite, but that's a
>>>>>> lot of extra trouble. I hope there's some way to have it automatically
>>>>>> open in EditPad Lite. If I decide that I agree with you, and I prefer
>>>>>> it to Notepad, I'd like to use it all the time, not just for some
>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just found Options|Configure File Types in EditPad Lite.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Text document was set to *.txt, I changed it to
>>>>>> *.txt *.ahk
>>>>>> *.txt;*.ahk
>>>>>> *.txt; *.ahk
>>>>>> *.txt,*.ahk
>>>>>> *.txt; *.ahk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> None of those worked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then I scrolled up to C source code, which I never use, and changed
>>>>>> its setting to *.ahk. That didn't work either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am I doing something wrong? Is there some way to make this work in
>>>>>> Options|Configure File Types? Or some other way to do it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably, you need to go into Windows settings, and make the app the
>>>>> default for that file type.
>>>>
>>>> No, the default for the .ahk file type needs to be autohotkey.exe,
>>>> which it is. I want to change the default for *editing* the file type.
>>>> In EditPad Lite, I also tried adding a new file type, *.ahk. That also
>>>> didn't work.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ahh, in that case, I really couldn't tell you. There probably is some
>>> trick to doing that, but I'm not aware of it offhand.
>>
>>
>> It's not critical, of course, but I'd like to be able to use the same
>> editor for all my text editing.
>>
>> The problem is probably that my editing of the AHK file is done by
>> right-clicking the autohotkey task bar icon, and choosing "Edit this
>> script." not the way most .txt files are edited. If I edit the file by
>> choosing EditPad Lite from the Context Menu (I added it there), I can
>> do it that way, but that's extra trouble.
>>
>> If anyone else here has any suggestions, I'm all ears.
>
>Windows Explorer, find ".ahk" file to edit, right click and select Open
>With EditPad.

That's exactly the way I know I can do it. In the message you replied
to, I just said "If I edit the file by choosing EditPad Lite from the
Context Menu (I added it there), I can do it that way, but that's
extra trouble." I'm looking for a way to right-click the autohotkey
task bar icon, and choose "Edit this script" and have it work with
EditPad Lite.
> Also a good free editor is Notepad++

Yes, I know. It's long been installed here.

On Sat, 28 May 2022 12:07:10 +0100, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 May 2022 13:02:18 +0100, rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> Gone are the days of the late 80s and early 90s where trading disks was
>>> the norm as was getting a virus from that disk.
>>
>> That's naughty. Don't talk about games swapping in front of the religious moron Joel.
>
> I honestly don't care that you're a software pirate. It's your own
> loss, really. You would sacrifice the quality of using your
> computers, to save some money. You are screwing yourself much more
> than the makers of the software.

I experience no loss in quality, in fact it's usually easier to get pirate software than jump through the hoops to pay for it and convince your software that you've done so.

On Sat, 28 May 2022 12:19:35 +0100, rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> wrote:

> On 2022-05-28 7:07 a.m., Joel wrote:
>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 20 May 2022 13:02:18 +0100, rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gone are the days of the late 80s and early 90s where trading disks was
>>>> the norm as was getting a virus from that disk.
>>>
>>> That's naughty. Don't talk about games swapping in front of the religious moron Joel.
>>
>>
>> I honestly don't care that you're a software pirate. It's your own
>> loss, really. You would sacrifice the quality of using your
>> computers, to save some money. You are screwing yourself much more
>> than the makers of the software.
>
> Agreed here. If Commander Kinsey finds Windows so unreliable that he
> refuses to pay for it,

They release bug fixes every fucking week! Bugs should be fixed before release!

> he's free to install his choice of Linux
> distribution which will be _so_ much better than Windows. He doesn't
> feel bad that he's a thieving piece of crap, but if he installs Linux,
> he can install whatever load of software he wants and not even _risk_
> eventually feeling bad about not paying a dime.

Feeling bad is all in your mind. I feel good that I've got something for nothing. In fact I'm technically sponsored by you, since you pay and I don't. So I've stolen from you and there's fuck all you can do about it.

On Sat, 28 May 2022 12:28:33 +0100, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> wrote:
>> On 2022-05-28 7:07 a.m., Joel wrote:
>>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 20 May 2022 13:02:18 +0100, rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gone are the days of the late 80s and early 90s where trading disks was
>>>>> the norm as was getting a virus from that disk.
>>>>
>>>> That's naughty. Don't talk about games swapping in front of the religious moron Joel.
>>>
>>> I honestly don't care that you're a software pirate. It's your own
>>> loss, really. You would sacrifice the quality of using your
>>> computers, to save some money. You are screwing yourself much more
>>> than the makers of the software.
>>
>> Agreed here. If Commander Kinsey finds Windows so unreliable that he
>> refuses to pay for it, he's free to install his choice of Linux
>> distribution which will be _so_ much better than Windows. He doesn't
>> feel bad that he's a thieving piece of crap, but if he installs Linux,
>> he can install whatever load of software he wants and not even _risk_
>> eventually feeling bad about not paying a dime.
>
>
> You would think the freeloaders would indeed do that. But no, people
> who run Linux tend to actually give back to the projects, whether with
> voluntary monetary contributions, or contributing code, assisting
> others, etc. The freeloaders just do what the Commander does,
> installing commercial software and cracking it.

Commercial software companies have lots of money and don't need donations. If everything was free, I would think most people would donate to the ones they thought were the best.