On Sat, 28 May 2022 16:04:51 +0100, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>
>>> It's [Windows Security is] good enough for me.
>>
>> For me too.
>>
>>> I'm not going to take time and money to
>>> install third party anti-malware software.
>>
>> Time, yes. But not much time. Money, maybe, depending on what product
>> it is.
>
> I would tend to think a free one wouldn't be any better than
> Microsoft's own.

Check the reviews. There are many places you can see how many viruses each one catches or misses.

>>> I like the fact that it's
>>> included with Windows.
>>
>> Not me. I like to choose the product I like best (anti-malware or
>> anything else) regardless of whether or not it's included with
>> Windows. For some things I use what comes with Windows, for others I
>> use other Microsoft products, and for still others, I use third-party
>> products.
>
> Sure, but for anti-malware, the included protection is good.

All anti-malware products have way too many false positives. They pick up a lot of the Boinc programs I run for example.

On Sat, 28 May 2022 12:04:46 +0100, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>> I don't interfere with Windows Security scanning incoming executable
>>> stuff,
>>
>> Microsoft have never and will never write a reliable anti-anything.
>
>
> It's good enough for me. I'm not going to take time and money to
> install third party anti-malware software. I like the fact that it's
> included with Windows.
>
>
>>> and I don't introduce questionable stuff to the system to begin
>>> with. I apply updates religiously.
>>
>> Does that mean on your knees?
>
> It means I don't fail to apply them.

It means you're a clueless fairy-worshipper.

On Sat, 28 May 2022 16:59:28 +0100, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>
>>> I do use Windows' email app, though,
>>
>> Ugh! Another one I think is terrible--the worst e-mail program I've
>> ever tried. I use Thunderbird, which I greatly prefer.
>
> It was very easy to use the Windows app, because my Microsoft account
> email address was already set up in it, natively, and it easily added
> my Gmail account as well. Admittedly, though, there are times I go on
> the Web to write a reply.

So you're not one of those like me who refuses to have a MS account?

Their email program is shit by the way. It has the most security holes, and was once fooled into thinking an attachment existed by typing the word begin.

On Sat, 28 May 2022 18:04:43 +0100, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>
>>>> What do you like better about EditPad Lite? Do you think I should give
>>>> it a try?
>>>
>>> It was recommended to me a while back in another newsgroup, and at the
>>> time I was still happy with the classic Windows Notepad, but when the
>>> new one replaced it, I needed something that could handle large text
>>> files. I've enjoyed using EditPad Lite, in every applicable way.
>>
>> I almost never need to edit a large text file, but if I do, I use
>> Wordpad.
>>
>> EditPad Lite looks very nice though.
>>
>> However, as I said, the text file I most often edit is Autohotkey.ahk,
>> and that still opens in Notepad, since the default for .txt files
>> doesn't apply to it. Yes I could open it in EditPad Lite by finding
>> the file, right-clicking it, and choosing EditPad Lite, but that's a
>> lot of extra trouble. I hope there's some way to have it automatically
>> open in EditPad Lite. If I decide that I agree with you, and I prefer
>> it to Notepad, I'd like to use it all the time, not just for some
>> things.
>>
>> I just found Options|Configure File Types in EditPad Lite.
>>
>> Text document was set to *.txt, I changed it to
>> *.txt *.ahk
>> *.txt;*.ahk
>> *.txt; *.ahk
>> *.txt,*.ahk
>> *.txt; *.ahk
>>
>> None of those worked.
>>
>> Then I scrolled up to C source code, which I never use, and changed
>> its setting to *.ahk. That didn't work either.
>>
>> Am I doing something wrong? Is there some way to make this work in
>> Options|Configure File Types? Or some other way to do it?
>
> Probably, you need to go into Windows settings, and make the app the
> default for that file type.

Just right click the file, choose "open with" then tick the "always" option.

>>>>> I do use Windows' email app, though,
>>>>
>>>> Ugh! Another one I think is terrible--the worst e-mail program I've
>>>> ever tried. I use Thunderbird, which I greatly prefer.
>>>
>>> It was very easy to use the Windows app, because my Microsoft account
>>> email address was already set up in it, natively, and it easily added
>>> my Gmail account as well. Admittedly, though, there are times I go on
>>> the Web to write a reply.
>>
>> Double Ugh! Using the Web for e-mail is even a worse choice, as far as
>> I'm concerned. I *never* do that.
>>
>> It might be easy, but I want better, not easier. No e-mail program
>> I've ever tried is perfect. There are always some things I don't like
>> about any of them, but Thunderbird is the best I've ever tried.
>
> Email isn't something I use a whole lot, is the thing. If I were more
> active on it, I probably would do similarly to you.

I use Opera for email and newsgroups together. The filters in it are excellent. It's one of the few programs where if I was to filter you, I wouldn't see replies to you either. People are constantly complaining about folk replying to me because they've killfiled me and can still see replies, and they think it's everyone else's duty to killfile the same people they do.

"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

>> It was very easy to use the Windows [email] app, because my Microsoft account
>> email address was already set up in it, natively, and it easily added
>> my Gmail account as well. Admittedly, though, there are times I go on
>> the Web to write a reply.
>
>So you're not one of those like me who refuses to have a MS account?

I actually had the email address before Microsoft bought out Hotmail
in the late '90s. But certainly there are advantages to having a
Microsoft account as a Windows user.

>Their email program is shit by the way. It has the most security holes, and was once fooled into thinking an attachment existed by typing the word begin.

You're thinking of Outlook Express, the one today is not the same one.

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"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

>>>> and I don't introduce questionable stuff to the system to begin
>>>> with. I apply updates religiously.
>>>
>>> Does that mean on your knees?
>>
>> It means I don't fail to apply them.
>
>It means you're a clueless fairy-worshipper.

If that means anything, it failed to communicate what.

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"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 28 May 2022 12:28:33 +0100, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>> rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>> If Commander Kinsey finds Windows so unreliable that he
>>> refuses to pay for it, he's free to install his choice of Linux
>>> distribution which will be _so_ much better than Windows. He doesn't
>>> feel bad that he's a thieving piece of crap, but if he installs Linux,
>>> he can install whatever load of software he wants and not even _risk_
>>> eventually feeling bad about not paying a dime.
>>
>> You would think the freeloaders would indeed do that. But no, people
>> who run Linux tend to actually give back to the projects, whether with
>> voluntary monetary contributions, or contributing code, assisting
>> others, etc. The freeloaders just do what the Commander does,
>> installing commercial software and cracking it.
>
>Commercial software companies have lots of money and don't need donations. If everything was free, I would think most people would donate to the ones they thought were the best.

So your rationalization boils down to they "have lots of money"? How
would they have any money if everyone pirated their software? It's
just silly.

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"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

>> I honestly don't care that you're a software pirate. It's your own
>> loss, really. You would sacrifice the quality of using your
>> computers, to save some money. You are screwing yourself much more
>> than the makers of the software.
>
>I experience no loss in quality, in fact it's usually easier to get pirate software than jump through the hoops to pay for it and convince your software that you've done so.

Typing my product key into the Win10 installer was pretty easy, it
activated automatically. And I've generally had no issue with
software licenses for other software.

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Joel Crump

On 6/1/2022 4:10 AM, Joel wrote:
> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>> I honestly don't care that you're a software pirate. It's your own
>>> loss, really. You would sacrifice the quality of using your
>>> computers, to save some money. You are screwing yourself much more
>>> than the makers of the software.
>>
>> I experience no loss in quality, in fact it's usually easier to get pirate software than jump through the hoops to pay for it and convince your software that you've done so.
>
>
> Typing my product key into the Win10 installer was pretty easy, it
> activated automatically. And I've generally had no issue with
> software licenses for other software.
>

The following site may provide insight on the root of the problem
(at least it's a start):
https://mantracare.org/therapy/what-is/grandiosity/

Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
>On 6/1/2022 4:10 AM, Joel wrote:
>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> I honestly don't care that you're a software pirate. It's your own
>>>> loss, really. You would sacrifice the quality of using your
>>>> computers, to save some money. You are screwing yourself much more
>>>> than the makers of the software.
>>>
>>> I experience no loss in quality, in fact it's usually easier to get pirate software than jump through the hoops to pay for it and convince your software that you've done so.
>>
>> Typing my product key into the Win10 installer was pretty easy, it
>> activated automatically. And I've generally had no issue with
>> software licenses for other software.
>
>The following site may provide insight on the root of the problem
>(at least it's a start):
>https://mantracare.org/therapy/what-is/grandiosity/

Makes sense, yes.

--
Joel Crump

Joel wrote:
> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>> It was very easy to use the Windows [email] app, because my Microsoft account
>>> email address was already set up in it, natively, and it easily added
>>> my Gmail account as well. Admittedly, though, there are times I go on
>>> the Web to write a reply.
>>
>> So you're not one of those like me who refuses to have a MS account?
>
>
> I actually had the email address before Microsoft bought out Hotmail
> in the late '90s. But certainly there are advantages to having a
> Microsoft account as a Windows user.
>
>
>> Their email program is shit by the way. It has the most security holes, and was once fooled into thinking an attachment existed by typing the word begin.
>
>
> You're thinking of Outlook Express, the one today is not the same one.
>

....and about a email client that ceased development 16 yrs ago in 2006.
At that time all email clients were security holes.

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On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 09:06:15 +0100, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> and I don't introduce questionable stuff to the system to begin
>>>>> with. I apply updates religiously.
>>>>
>>>> Does that mean on your knees?
>>>
>>> It means I don't fail to apply them.
>>
>> It means you're a clueless fairy-worshipper.
>
> If that means anything, it failed to communicate what.

Fairies, gods, goblins, santa claus, same mythical shite. Grow up.

On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 09:08:53 +0100, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 May 2022 12:28:33 +0100, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> rabidR04CH <rabid@r04.ch> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If Commander Kinsey finds Windows so unreliable that he
>>>> refuses to pay for it, he's free to install his choice of Linux
>>>> distribution which will be _so_ much better than Windows. He doesn't
>>>> feel bad that he's a thieving piece of crap, but if he installs Linux,
>>>> he can install whatever load of software he wants and not even _risk_
>>>> eventually feeling bad about not paying a dime.
>>>
>>> You would think the freeloaders would indeed do that. But no, people
>>> who run Linux tend to actually give back to the projects, whether with
>>> voluntary monetary contributions, or contributing code, assisting
>>> others, etc. The freeloaders just do what the Commander does,
>>> installing commercial software and cracking it.
>>
>> Commercial software companies have lots of money and don't need donations. If everything was free, I would think most people would donate to the ones they thought were the best.
>
> So your rationalization boils down to they "have lots of money"? How
> would they have any money if everyone pirated their software? It's
> just silly.

They don't all pirate it, because there's morons like you that pay when they don't have to.

On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 09:20:22 +0100, Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:

> On 6/1/2022 4:10 AM, Joel wrote:
>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> I honestly don't care that you're a software pirate. It's your own
>>>> loss, really. You would sacrifice the quality of using your
>>>> computers, to save some money. You are screwing yourself much more
>>>> than the makers of the software.
>>>
>>> I experience no loss in quality, in fact it's usually easier to get pirate software than jump through the hoops to pay for it and convince your software that you've done so.
>>
>>
>> Typing my product key into the Win10 installer was pretty easy, it
>> activated automatically. And I've generally had no issue with
>> software licenses for other software.
>>
>
> The following site may provide insight on the root of the problem
> (at least it's a start):
> https://mantracare.org/therapy/what-is/grandiosity/

Yes, I find all the morons who think they're above us for paying for software belong to this group.

The fact remains, I got 7 Windows licenses for free, and every game I play for free, and all my software and music for free. You are all funding my life, I win.

On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 09:10:21 +0100, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>> I honestly don't care that you're a software pirate. It's your own
>>> loss, really. You would sacrifice the quality of using your
>>> computers, to save some money. You are screwing yourself much more
>>> than the makers of the software.
>>
>> I experience no loss in quality, in fact it's usually easier to get pirate software than jump through the hoops to pay for it and convince your software that you've done so.
>
>
> Typing my product key into the Win10 installer was pretty easy, it
> activated automatically. And I've generally had no issue with
> software licenses for other software.

Lucky you, many people have lost their key, or had it stolen. That cannot happen to me.

On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 09:04:11 +0100, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>> It was very easy to use the Windows [email] app, because my Microsoft account
>>> email address was already set up in it, natively, and it easily added
>>> my Gmail account as well. Admittedly, though, there are times I go on
>>> the Web to write a reply.
>>
>> So you're not one of those like me who refuses to have a MS account?
>
> I actually had the email address before Microsoft bought out Hotmail
> in the late '90s. But certainly there are advantages to having a
> Microsoft account as a Windows user.

There are no advantages whatsoever to belonging to MS's little club. Why the fuck should I use an account on their server to log into my own fucking computer?

>> Their email program is shit by the way. It has the most security holes, and was once fooled into thinking an attachment existed by typing the word begin.
>
> You're thinking of Outlook Express, the one today is not the same one.

They changed ther name a couple of times, it's still shit. It can't handle emails from Iphones for example. It thinks all the attachments are the same file.

On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 15:37:52 +0100, ...winston <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

> Joel wrote:
>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> It was very easy to use the Windows [email] app, because my Microsoft account
>>>> email address was already set up in it, natively, and it easily added
>>>> my Gmail account as well. Admittedly, though, there are times I go on
>>>> the Web to write a reply.
>>>
>>> So you're not one of those like me who refuses to have a MS account?
>>
>> I actually had the email address before Microsoft bought out Hotmail
>> in the late '90s. But certainly there are advantages to having a
>> Microsoft account as a Windows user.
>>
>>> Their email program is shit by the way. It has the most security holes, and was once fooled into thinking an attachment existed by typing the word begin.
>>
>> You're thinking of Outlook Express, the one today is not the same one.
>
> ...and about a email client that ceased development 16 yrs ago in 2006.
> At that time all email clients were security holes.

No, just Outhouse Distress, it was infamous for it. MS loved to make everything look the same, let's make en email look like a webpage and run everything inside it before you tell it to. Yeah, really good idea.

"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

>>> It means you're a clueless fairy-worshipper.
>>
>> If that means anything, it failed to communicate what.
>
>Fairies, gods, goblins, santa claus, same mythical shite. Grow up.

If "growing up" means being a shithead like you, no thanks.

--
Joel Crump

"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

>>> Commercial software companies have lots of money and don't need donations. If everything was free, I would think most people would donate to the ones they thought were the best.
>>
>> So your rationalization boils down to they "have lots of money"? How
>> would they have any money if everyone pirated their software? It's
>> just silly.
>
>They don't all pirate it, because there's morons like you that pay when they don't have to.

Oh, but I definitely *do* "have to" pay for it, because I'm not
"moronic" enough to think there's no consequence to pirating it, even
if you ignore the dishonesty of it. I actually have knowledge of
software development such that I am not stupid enough, like you, to
think it really defeats the licensing schemes of commercial software.
You can't seriously believe that the pirates have decompiled every
last bit of Windows, and somehow ensured that they've completely
defeated it. That is just plain delusional.

--
Joel Crump

On Fri, 03 Jun 2022 11:03:22 +0100, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>>> It means you're a clueless fairy-worshipper.
>>>
>>> If that means anything, it failed to communicate what.
>>
>> Fairies, gods, goblins, santa claus, same mythical shite. Grow up.
>
> If "growing up" means being a shithead like you, no thanks.

It means not believing in non-existant deities, we all grew out of that long long ago. Go live in the USA where they're a bit behind on this.

On Fri, 03 Jun 2022 11:09:18 +0100, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Commercial software companies have lots of money and don't need donations. If everything was free, I would think most people would donate to the ones they thought were the best.
>>>
>>> So your rationalization boils down to they "have lots of money"? How
>>> would they have any money if everyone pirated their software? It's
>>> just silly.
>>
>> They don't all pirate it, because there's morons like you that pay when they don't have to.
>
> Oh, but I definitely *do* "have to" pay for it, because I'm not
> "moronic" enough to think there's no consequence to pirating it, even
> if you ignore the dishonesty of it. I actually have knowledge of
> software development such that I am not stupid enough, like you, to
> think it really defeats the licensing schemes of commercial software.
> You can't seriously believe that the pirates have decompiled every
> last bit of Windows, and somehow ensured that they've completely
> defeated it. That is just plain delusional.

I have used everything for free since 1982. You haven't. I win. There were never any consequences, you worry about what has never happened. You'll be telling me the end of the world is nigh soon. Fuck off you religious cunt.

"Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

>>> They don't all pirate it, because there's morons like you that pay when they don't have to.
>>
>> Oh, but I definitely *do* "have to" pay for it, because I'm not
>> "moronic" enough to think there's no consequence to pirating it, even
>> if you ignore the dishonesty of it. I actually have knowledge of
>> software development such that I am not stupid enough, like you, to
>> think it really defeats the licensing schemes of commercial software.
>> You can't seriously believe that the pirates have decompiled every
>> last bit of Windows, and somehow ensured that they've completely
>> defeated it. That is just plain delusional.
>
>I have used everything for free since 1982. You haven't. I win. There were never any consequences, you worry about what has never happened. You'll be telling me the end of the world is nigh soon. Fuck off you religious cunt.

Idiot. <plonk>

--
Joel Crump

On Fri, 03 Jun 2022 11:59:19 +0100, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>>> They don't all pirate it, because there's morons like you that pay when they don't have to.
>>>
>>> Oh, but I definitely *do* "have to" pay for it, because I'm not
>>> "moronic" enough to think there's no consequence to pirating it, even
>>> if you ignore the dishonesty of it. I actually have knowledge of
>>> software development such that I am not stupid enough, like you, to
>>> think it really defeats the licensing schemes of commercial software.
>>> You can't seriously believe that the pirates have decompiled every
>>> last bit of Windows, and somehow ensured that they've completely
>>> defeated it. That is just plain delusional.
>>
>> I have used everything for free since 1982. You haven't. I win. There were never any consequences, you worry about what has never happened. You'll be telling me the end of the world is nigh soon. Fuck off you religious cunt.
>
> Idiot. <plonk>

How dare you?! Go say 50 hail Marys and suck the priest's cock! That's what you weirdos do isn't it?

You believe in a god with no evidence. You believe there will be consequences for my actions without evidence. Just open your eyes.

On 6/3/2022 6:59 AM, Joel wrote:
> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>>> They don't all pirate it, because there's morons like you that pay when they don't have to.
>>>
>>> Oh, but I definitely *do* "have to" pay for it, because I'm not
>>> "moronic" enough to think there's no consequence to pirating it, even
>>> if you ignore the dishonesty of it. I actually have knowledge of
>>> software development such that I am not stupid enough, like you, to
>>> think it really defeats the licensing schemes of commercial software.
>>> You can't seriously believe that the pirates have decompiled every
>>> last bit of Windows, and somehow ensured that they've completely
>>> defeated it. That is just plain delusional.
>>
>> I have used everything for free since 1982. You haven't. I win. There were never any consequences, you worry about what has never happened. You'll be telling me the end of the world is nigh soon. Fuck off you religious cunt.
>
>
> Idiot. <plonk>
>

There you go. You lost a "friend" over this!

Bill <nonegiven@att.net> wrote:
>On 6/3/2022 6:59 AM, Joel wrote:
>> "Commander Kinsey" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have used everything for free since 1982. You haven't. I win. There were never any consequences, you worry about what has never happened. You'll be telling me the end of the world is nigh soon. Fuck off you religious cunt.
>>
>> Idiot. <plonk>
>
>There you go. You lost a "friend" over this!

He's just a numbskull to me. I tried to make the most of his presence
in the group, but it's going nowhere fast, at this point.

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