On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 1:27:52 PM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 3:58:26 PM UTC-5, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 07:25:07 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 6:53:29 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >> (predicted response, ad hominem + change of subject).
> >
> > >Poor little baby cannot figure it out for himself so he needs google references from someone else to show him how. Real talent on show there Flunky. Because a little pansy like you has such a difficult time understanding what "light line" means doesn't make it anything other than what it is. Ahh, the courage of anonymity and distance. You are so obviously proud of your ignorance.
> > Well, you got both ad hominem and change-o-subject. The choice of
> > Tom's typical replies can include:
> >
> > [ ] Opening insult.
> > [ ] Ad hominem attack declaring the writer to be incompetent.
> > [ ] Random derogatory name calling (little, baby, midget, etc).
> > [ ] Proclamation of Tom having extensive experience in the topic.
> > [ ] Mis-spelled name of company where Tom allegedly gained the
> > experience.
> > [ ] Irrelevant references to Covid-19, national politics, Dr Faucci,
> > and current events.
> > [ ] Generally incorrect amazing claims.
> > [ ] URL allegedly substantiating the amazing claims but usually about
> > some other topic, from a source lacking credibility, or something
> > which failed a fact check.
> > [ ] Closing reference to something that Tom did on or to his numerous
> > bicycles.
> Excellent concise, and accurate summary of any tommy-response.
> >
> > Tom's rather strangely structured sentence seems to suggest that he
> > wants you to admit that you don't understand anything about copper and
> > optical transmission lines before he will produce an explanation.
> > Should that be the case, I will gladly sacrifice what's left of my
> > reputation for a small measure of entertainment value. I hereby
> > declare that I don't know anything about transmission lines and how
> > they're measured. OK Tom, now will you disclose the secret of testing
> > cables with PWM?
> Oh no, that will never do. All that will invoke would be a reiteration of 'I'm not going to bother posting since now you admit you won't understand'.. Funny how he actually described TDR in claiming it was how PWM worked. (any link at all tommy, any link at all...)
> > Incidentally, "light line" is what my Jr High Skool drafting
> > instructor called my work after I used a 4H lead instead of the usual
> > 2H pencil.
> One thing we _do_ know is that "light lines" have nothing to do with fiber optic telecom networks (any link at all tommy, any link at all...)
"Snivel, one thing we know (sob) is that fiber optics aren't light lines" They just happen to be lines that light travels down. They just happen to be what the phone company technicians call them. They just happen to be what my house is connected to the Internet on.

On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:21:48 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>They just happen to be lines that light travels down.

Perhaps light pipe? That was used at one time.

>They just happen to be what the phone company technicians call them.

Methinks otherwise:

TIA Glossary of Telecommunications Terms:
<https://standards.tiaonline.org/resources/telecom-glossary>
"Sorry, we could not find this light line."

ATT. This page provides an alphabetical list of common terms,
abbreviations, and acronyms used in AT&T eMaintenance.
<https://www.cnm.att.com/tmw-docs/help/aotsgloss.html>
Nothing found.

AT&T Language, Acronyms, and Telephony Talk (With Photos)
<https://turbofuture.com/industrial/ATT-language-accronyms-and-telephony-talk>
Nothing found.

Google does find a number of "light line" definitions, none of which
have anything to do with telecommunciations or data communications:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=%22light+line%22>

Just for fun:
<https://www.dictionary.com/browse/light-line>
noun Nautical.
"the line or level to which a ship or boat sinks when fully supplied
with fuel and ballast but without cargo."

If all else fails, you could take the easy way out and simply declare
that it was a spelling error.

>They just happen to be what my house is connected to the Internet on.

Let's see who offers fiber in San Leandro:
<https://broadbandnow.com/California/San-Leandro>
Looks like AT&T, Xfinity(Comcast), and Viasat. Viasat is satellite
internet, so they're not your ISP. Xfinity offers business class
fiber. For consumers, they offer "fiber only" service (also known as
FTTH (fiber to the home). Mostly, they offer FTTP (fiber to the pole)
service. The BroadbandNow site shows that Xfinity only offers coax in
San Leandro, but that might be out of date. That leaves AT&T, which
amazingly does offer four fiber service levels:
<https://broadbandnow.com/ATT-deals>
Congratulations. You passed the fiber fact check.

Now, all you need to do for a perfect score is provide a vendor,
explanation, or retraction for how "light lines" are used to test
cables.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 3:43:20 PM UTC-8, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:21:48 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >They just happen to be lines that light travels down.
> Perhaps light pipe? That was used at one time.
> >They just happen to be what the phone company technicians call them.
> Methinks otherwise:
>
> TIA Glossary of Telecommunications Terms:
> <https://standards.tiaonline.org/resources/telecom-glossary>
> "Sorry, we could not find this light line."
>
> ATT. This page provides an alphabetical list of common terms,
> abbreviations, and acronyms used in AT&T eMaintenance.
> <https://www.cnm.att.com/tmw-docs/help/aotsgloss.html>
> Nothing found.
>
> AT&T Language, Acronyms, and Telephony Talk (With Photos)
> <https://turbofuture.com/industrial/ATT-language-accronyms-and-telephony-talk>
> Nothing found.
>
> Google does find a number of "light line" definitions, none of which
> have anything to do with telecommunciations or data communications:
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=%22light+line%22>
>
> Just for fun:
> <https://www.dictionary.com/browse/light-line>
> noun Nautical.
> "the line or level to which a ship or boat sinks when fully supplied
> with fuel and ballast but without cargo."
>
> If all else fails, you could take the easy way out and simply declare
> that it was a spelling error.
> >They just happen to be what my house is connected to the Internet on.
> Let's see who offers fiber in San Leandro:
> <https://broadbandnow.com/California/San-Leandro>
> Looks like AT&T, Xfinity(Comcast), and Viasat. Viasat is satellite
> internet, so they're not your ISP. Xfinity offers business class
> fiber. For consumers, they offer "fiber only" service (also known as
> FTTH (fiber to the home). Mostly, they offer FTTP (fiber to the pole)
> service. The BroadbandNow site shows that Xfinity only offers coax in
> San Leandro, but that might be out of date. That leaves AT&T, which
> amazingly does offer four fiber service levels:
> <https://broadbandnow.com/ATT-deals>
> Congratulations. You passed the fiber fact check.
>
> Now, all you need to do for a perfect score is provide a vendor,
> explanation, or retraction for how "light lines" are used to test
> cables.

I love that you tell me what ATT technicians call light lines by "proving it" with an ATT document. Not many people are that bright aside from you, Flunky, Little John and the penguin.

On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:19:17 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 11:03:48 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 10:25:08 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>I have no intentions of designing a PWM wire tester

Nobody asked you to design a PWM cable tester. Since you claim that
it exists, I asked you to find me one or describe how it works.

>and waste any more time on you.

I forgot about that. You promised not to respond to the "haters".
That would be me. I hate you. So, why are you responding?

>You aren't even a technician and you're telling an engineer
>that he doesn't know what he's talking about.

You are not an engineer. You may have written firmware and worked
with engineers on various products, but that does not make you an
engineer. Whether you are or are not an engineer doesn't matter. You
still don't know what you're talking about.

>If you had ANY reputable experience at all you could at least
>understand how that would work.

I already declared that I have no knowledge, experience or familiarity
with a PWM cable tester. Please display your vast knowledge and
enlighten me as to how such a device might operate.

>You and Jeff can agree with each other than you can in some
>manner use a megger to check a mile of wire for shorts or opens.

You didn't read what I scribbled. A Megger (high voltage dielectric
and insulation leakage tester, only tests one of the numerous
specifications required for a cable to be acceptable. Nobody
mentioned using one for a continuity tester by just checking for
shorts or opens. I can do that with a common multimeter.

>After he cites Time Domaine Reflectometry which is really
>what I was speaking of since it CAN use PWM to give additional
>information,

What additional information will PWM provide in time domain
reflectometry? Are you aware that the TDR only uses the leading edge
of the pulse and generally ignores the rest of the waveform? The
pulse can be as narrow as you want (within rise time limitations) or
as wide as you want (within power consumption limitations), and the
TDR will display much the same information. What additional
information do you believe it can provide?

>Even
>in that Fluke comment it describes modification of waveforms due
>to signal input and cable length but stupid doesn't understand
>anything that means.

The comment was:
> from the Fluke knowledge base the only return
> https://www.fluke.com/en-us/learn/blog/power-quality/cable-length-vfd-motors
> "The output of the frequency inverter is characterized by a PWM signal" - which has no application in directly diagnosing cable integrity.

I don't see anything describing "modification of waveforms due to
signal input and cable length" in the comment. The article describes
problems that might occur in a VFD (variable frequency drive) where
the fast rise time (needed to reduce power consumption), and long
cables, can cause a (power) transmission line impedance mismatch,
which produces high voltage overshoots, which might blow something up.
The PWM signal to a VFD is modulated to create a sine wave and change
the speed and direction of an attached motor:
<https://www.kebamerica.com/blog/pulse-width-modulation-in-vfds/>
None of this has any application to *TESTING* a cable.

>...can't even understand that you use PWM
>to achieve Time Domaine Reflectometry since that pulse width of
>necessity changes with the length and other particulars of the wires
>being tested.

It would seem that you are doing a credible job of demonstrating that
you don't understand how a TDR works and how it's used.

>While you two are sucking each other off remember that you're the one that looked directly at this and couldn't see the fucking functions I was talking about: https://hvtechnologies.com/the-basics-of-time-domain-reflectometry-tdr/

Which functions and on what page does it show how to test a cable with
PWM? I couldn't find anything that mentions PWM.

BTW, the article is really basic and covers what a lineman needs to
know about how a TDR works for testing power lines. After all, that's
the business of the vendor who posted the article on their site.

Also, it's bad enough when you don't bother to substantiate your
claims with references and links. It's worse when you waste my time
with unrelated URL's and references that have nothing to do with the
discussion.

Stand and deliver. I want to know how to use PWM to test cables, and
I want it now or post a retraction.

[ I can't believe I wasted 60 mins on this ]

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have missed that.

Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past. Photo of the
diploma:
<http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was governor of
California.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On 2022-01-20, John B <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 17:33:58 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
><cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 3:28:50 PM UTC-8, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 14:07:31 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"VAERS confirmed over 6000 additional COVID-19 vaccine death reports" https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/covid-19-vaccine-related-fatalities-updated
>>> We've been here before:
>>> <https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html>
>>> "While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports
>>> alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed
>>> to an adverse event or illness. The reports may contain information
>>> that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. In
>>> large part, reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they are
>>> subject to biases. This creates specific limitations on how the data
>>> can be used scientifically. Data from VAERS reports should always be
>>> interpreted with these limitations in mind."
>>>
>>> Short version: VAERS data is crowd sourced and not reliable. Don't
>>> use it to establish either Covid-19 causes or effects.
>>
>>Well, I think that since you are so more than willing to believe the same government offices that are pushing vaccinations to assume that "it isn't necessarily correct to blame the vaccines if a person mysteriously dies within 28 days of being vaccinated". Of course it isn't. But what are the odds? Why do you have an almost sexual need to oppose me? As I've shown, covid-19 is harmless except in extremely rare circumstances and to people with serious comorbidities that were about the take their lives soon. So why don't you run down and get a booster that has been shown NOT to keep you from getting ill, not to improve your chances and not to prevent the spreading of the illness by vaccinated people. Seems like the idea vaccine to me.
>>
>>I guess acting like a nitwit runs in your family.
>
>
> Well, we don't know whether psychosis runs in your family but you
> certainly flaunt the symptoms:
>
> "A mental condition in which people have an
> inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive
> attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of
> empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a
> fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism and
> frequently respond to what they perceive as criticism with insults and
> threats of physical assault."

85% of Democrats, 76% of Republicans and 100% of Undecided want
re-education camps for weridos who still post to good old Usenet.

(Heck with them...Usenet will rise again to its proper place...it's not
censored, after all.)

pH in Aptos

On 2022-01-20, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:21:48 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
><cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>They just happen to be lines that light travels down.
>
> Perhaps light pipe? That was used at one time.
>
>>They just happen to be what the phone company technicians call them.
>
> Methinks otherwise:
>
> TIA Glossary of Telecommunications Terms:
><https://standards.tiaonline.org/resources/telecom-glossary>
> "Sorry, we could not find this light line."
>
> ATT. This page provides an alphabetical list of common terms,
> abbreviations, and acronyms used in AT&T eMaintenance.
><https://www.cnm.att.com/tmw-docs/help/aotsgloss.html>
> Nothing found.
>
> AT&T Language, Acronyms, and Telephony Talk (With Photos)
><https://turbofuture.com/industrial/ATT-language-accronyms-and-telephony-talk>
> Nothing found.
>
> Google does find a number of "light line" definitions, none of which
> have anything to do with telecommunciations or data communications:
><https://www.google.com/search?q=%22light+line%22>
>
> Just for fun:
><https://www.dictionary.com/browse/light-line>
> noun Nautical.
> "the line or level to which a ship or boat sinks when fully supplied
> with fuel and ballast but without cargo."
>
> If all else fails, you could take the easy way out and simply declare
> that it was a spelling error.
>
>>They just happen to be what my house is connected to the Internet on.
>
> Let's see who offers fiber in San Leandro:
><https://broadbandnow.com/California/San-Leandro>
> Looks like AT&T, Xfinity(Comcast), and Viasat. Viasat is satellite
> internet, so they're not your ISP. Xfinity offers business class
> fiber. For consumers, they offer "fiber only" service (also known as
> FTTH (fiber to the home). Mostly, they offer FTTP (fiber to the pole)
> service. The BroadbandNow site shows that Xfinity only offers coax in
> San Leandro, but that might be out of date. That leaves AT&T, which
> amazingly does offer four fiber service levels:
><https://broadbandnow.com/ATT-deals>
> Congratulations. You passed the fiber fact check.
>
> Now, all you need to do for a perfect score is provide a vendor,
> explanation, or retraction for how "light lines" are used to test
> cables.
>
>

Reading Jeff's posts often leads to neat URL's to bookmark!

pH

oh yes......"bicycle"

On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:40:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
><funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have missed that.
>
>Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past. Photo of the
>diploma:
><http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
>Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was governor of
>California.

Ah well, Jeff - many, Tommy - zero. So Jeff wins by a landslide (:-)
That is, unless Tommy can PROVE voter fraud (:-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 09:57:28 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute
<fiultra1@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 2:49:28 PM UTC, Andre Jute wrote:
>> "Poll Reveals Astonishing Percentage Of Democrats Support Unparalleled Covid Tyranny For Unvaccinated"
>>
>> According to the respected pollster Rasmussen:
>> "Forty-five percent (45%) of Democrats would favor governments requiring citizens to temporarily live in designated facilities or locations if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine."
>>
>> See more extracts from the report at:
>> https://townhall.com/tipsheet/scottmorefield/2022/01/15/rasmussen-poll-reveals-astonishing-percentage-of-democrats-support-unparalleled-covid-tyranny-for-the-unvaccinated-n2601911
>>
>> Andre Jute
>> I was born in South Africa, where the British invented the Concentration Camp. I'm therefore familiar with the deep, generations-long societal scars such a policy would create.
>>
>What I find interesting is that none of the left creeps have denied that even 1% of their fellow Democrats want to deny the unvaccinated their constitutional liberty, never mind 45%, that even 1% totalitarian tendency in a supposedly mature political party is a worrying tendency and the 45% could easily be the death knell of the party (is there anyone silly enough to think city gangbangers will win a shooting war against flyover country?) and even sever the unum that used to be the strength of the US.
>>
>Andre Jute
>No, Jeff didn't argue that the revealed totalitarian tendency didn't exist, he merely argued that some of the 45% were less passionate than all the rest in the spiteful passion of their totalitarianism.

Correct. My apologies for not replying earlier to my screwup. I need
some time to figure out what happened to me and to contrive an
appropriate apology. Probably this weekend.

The main problem for me was that I couldn't believe that so many
Democrats didn't understand the implications of the question and how
it was likely to be applied. However, that might not be the case. The
British public, during the Boer War pretended they had little clue
what Kichener was doing in South Africa until the concentration camps
were shoved in their face when the press printed Emily Hobhouse's
reports. Similarly, the German public pretended not to know about the
WWII concentration camps until the war in Europe was over. The US did
it's part with the Japanese "relocation centers". Today, we pretend
that the Guantanamo Bay detention camp is not a concentration camp.
It's not like they're going out fashion:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_concentration_and_internment_camps>
Out of sight and out of mind.

Since I couldn't believe the result of the Rasmussen survey, I decided
that something was wrong with it and proceeded to accumulate
suspicions that it had been tweaked to provide the results desired by
its financial backers. I should have known that with a history of
most every country both tolerating or ignoring concentration camps,
that a substantial part of those surveyed would provide a similar
"don't care" attitude and response. Instead, I provided some rather
marginal suspicions and several bad guesses apparently from my faulty
memory.

Enough for now.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On 1/20/2022 4:39 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> This all started with him and Frank claiming that I wasn't an engineer because I don't have a degree.

Tom, I worked with some brilliant guys who did not have an engineering
degree. There's no shame in that; but they did not claim to be qualified
engineers.

The one guy I once worked with who falsely claimed to be an engineer
exhibited behavior similar to yours. He hid evidence of his mistakes,
took credit for work done by others, lied freely, etc. (BTW, he actually
_did_ have the nickname "Sparky." It was given to him by an electrician
who watched him nearly electrocute himself.)

But if "this all started" refers to your reputation, it was going full
steam before I ever had anything to do with you.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:00:24 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>I love that you tell me what ATT technicians call light lines by "proving it" with an ATT document.

That's true. Using an AT&T glossary to indicate the terms that AT&T
techs use probably has a few problems. That's because AT&T outsources
almost all it's consumer installation labor to various indpendent
contractors. Same with Comcast and many other ISP's.
<https://cwa-union.org/sites/default/files/20201005attsubcontractorreport.pdf>

Also, please note that my discovering that AT&T provides fiber service
to the San Leandro area does not necessarily indicate that you have
AT&T service or AT&T fiber.

Have you found anything yet explaining how PWM is used in cable
testing?
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On 1/20/2022 7:02 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:40:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have missed that.
>>
>> Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past. Photo of the
>> diploma:
>> <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
>> Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was governor of
>> California.
>
> Ah well, Jeff - many, Tommy - zero. So Jeff wins by a landslide (:-)
> That is, unless Tommy can PROVE voter fraud (:-)
>

How about video of a felony in progress and telephone
location data which matches?

Last September first reports:
https://www.worldtribune.com/report-video-shows-traffickers-dumping-thousands-of-ballots-in-georgia-drop-boxes-in-middle-of-the-night/

Follow up this month:
https://www.worldtribune.com/report-georgia-investigating-alleged-illegal-ballot-harvesting-in-2020-election/

Then there's Pennsylvania with statutory and constitutional
violations.

Also Wisconsin, where the nearby Dane County Clerk ran
television ads to brag about violating the statute on ballot
harvesting.

Judge Salas, in NJ, who was scheduled to hear a case
involving Jeffrey Epstein, suffered the loss of her son,
shot dead in her doorway. The shooter also conveniently
'committed suicide'. Once that message was heard, clearly,
no judge allowed any election fraud evidence or testimony
into any court record. Zip, nada, nothing.

Not one case was heard, deliberated, decided. Every ruling
was procedural.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 1/20/2022 7:13 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 09:57:28 -0800 (PST), Andre Jute
> <fiultra1@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 2:49:28 PM UTC, Andre Jute wrote:
>>> "Poll Reveals Astonishing Percentage Of Democrats Support Unparalleled Covid Tyranny For Unvaccinated"
>>>
>>> According to the respected pollster Rasmussen:
>>> "Forty-five percent (45%) of Democrats would favor governments requiring citizens to temporarily live in designated facilities or locations if they refuse to get a COVID-19 vaccine."
>>>
>>> See more extracts from the report at:
>>> https://townhall.com/tipsheet/scottmorefield/2022/01/15/rasmussen-poll-reveals-astonishing-percentage-of-democrats-support-unparalleled-covid-tyranny-for-the-unvaccinated-n2601911
>>>
>>> Andre Jute
>>> I was born in South Africa, where the British invented the Concentration Camp. I'm therefore familiar with the deep, generations-long societal scars such a policy would create.
>>>
>> What I find interesting is that none of the left creeps have denied that even 1% of their fellow Democrats want to deny the unvaccinated their constitutional liberty, never mind 45%, that even 1% totalitarian tendency in a supposedly mature political party is a worrying tendency and the 45% could easily be the death knell of the party (is there anyone silly enough to think city gangbangers will win a shooting war against flyover country?) and even sever the unum that used to be the strength of the US.
>>>
>> Andre Jute
>> No, Jeff didn't argue that the revealed totalitarian tendency didn't exist, he merely argued that some of the 45% were less passionate than all the rest in the spiteful passion of their totalitarianism.
>
> Correct. My apologies for not replying earlier to my screwup. I need
> some time to figure out what happened to me and to contrive an
> appropriate apology. Probably this weekend.
>
> The main problem for me was that I couldn't believe that so many
> Democrats didn't understand the implications of the question and how
> it was likely to be applied. However, that might not be the case. The
> British public, during the Boer War pretended they had little clue
> what Kichener was doing in South Africa until the concentration camps
> were shoved in their face when the press printed Emily Hobhouse's
> reports. Similarly, the German public pretended not to know about the
> WWII concentration camps until the war in Europe was over. The US did
> it's part with the Japanese "relocation centers". Today, we pretend
> that the Guantanamo Bay detention camp is not a concentration camp.
> It's not like they're going out fashion:
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_concentration_and_internment_camps>
> Out of sight and out of mind.
>
> Since I couldn't believe the result of the Rasmussen survey, I decided
> that something was wrong with it and proceeded to accumulate
> suspicions that it had been tweaked to provide the results desired by
> its financial backers. I should have known that with a history of
> most every country both tolerating or ignoring concentration camps,
> that a substantial part of those surveyed would provide a similar
> "don't care" attitude and response. Instead, I provided some rather
> marginal suspicions and several bad guesses apparently from my faulty
> memory.
>
> Enough for now.
>

That, sir, is an excellent post.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 08:02:34 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:40:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>><funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have missed that.
>>
>>Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past. Photo of the
>>diploma:
>><http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
>>Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was governor of
>>California.
>
>Ah well, Jeff - many, Tommy - zero. So Jeff wins by a landslide (:-)
>That is, unless Tommy can PROVE voter fraud (:-)

Unfortunately, fake diplomas are a real problem.
<https://www.google.com/search?q=fake+diploma&tbm=isch>

I was thinking that maybe a transcript would help, but even those have
been faked:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=fake+transcript&tbm=isch>
I could have an official transcript sent directly from the college to
Tom:
<https://www.cpp.edu/registrar/transcripts/index.shtml>
However, there's little to stop him declaring it a fake or pretending
he never received it.

It might be "trust, but verify", but the verify part is slowly
becoming non-functional.

Also, please don't mention "landslide". I have a mess on the hillside
above my house that is threatening to turn into a real landslide.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 19:41:10 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 1/20/2022 7:02 PM, John B. wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:40:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have missed that.
>>>
>>> Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past. Photo of the
>>> diploma:
>>> <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
>>> Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was governor of
>>> California.
>>
>> Ah well, Jeff - many, Tommy - zero. So Jeff wins by a landslide (:-)
>> That is, unless Tommy can PROVE voter fraud (:-)
>>
>
>How about video of a felony in progress and telephone
>location data which matches?
>
>Last September first reports:
>https://www.worldtribune.com/report-video-shows-traffickers-dumping-thousands-of-ballots-in-georgia-drop-boxes-in-middle-of-the-night/
>
>Follow up this month:
>https://www.worldtribune.com/report-georgia-investigating-alleged-illegal-ballot-harvesting-in-2020-election/
>
>Then there's Pennsylvania with statutory and constitutional
>violations.
>
>Also Wisconsin, where the nearby Dane County Clerk ran
>television ads to brag about violating the statute on ballot
>harvesting.
>
>Judge Salas, in NJ, who was scheduled to hear a case
>involving Jeffrey Epstein, suffered the loss of her son,
>shot dead in her doorway. The shooter also conveniently
>'committed suicide'. Once that message was heard, clearly,
>no judge allowed any election fraud evidence or testimony
>into any court record. Zip, nada, nothing.
>
>Not one case was heard, deliberated, decided. Every ruling
>was procedural.

I think I missed that one.
I read that Jeffrey Epstein, was:
"On June 30, 2008, after Epstein pleaded guilty to a state charge (one
of two) of procuring for prostitution a girl below age 18,[117] he was
sentenced to 18 months in prison."

How does this relate to voter fraud court cases?

And Den Hollander, the guy that shot the Judge's son had appeared
before Salas in connection with a lawsuit he brought challenging the
military's male-only draft.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 1/20/2022 8:02 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 19:41:10 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
>> On 1/20/2022 7:02 PM, John B. wrote:
>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:40:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>>> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have missed that.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past. Photo of the
>>>> diploma:
>>>> <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
>>>> Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was governor of
>>>> California.
>>>
>>> Ah well, Jeff - many, Tommy - zero. So Jeff wins by a landslide (:-)
>>> That is, unless Tommy can PROVE voter fraud (:-)
>>>
>>
>> How about video of a felony in progress and telephone
>> location data which matches?
>>
>> Last September first reports:
>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-video-shows-traffickers-dumping-thousands-of-ballots-in-georgia-drop-boxes-in-middle-of-the-night/
>>
>> Follow up this month:
>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-georgia-investigating-alleged-illegal-ballot-harvesting-in-2020-election/
>>
>> Then there's Pennsylvania with statutory and constitutional
>> violations.
>>
>> Also Wisconsin, where the nearby Dane County Clerk ran
>> television ads to brag about violating the statute on ballot
>> harvesting.
>>
>> Judge Salas, in NJ, who was scheduled to hear a case
>> involving Jeffrey Epstein, suffered the loss of her son,
>> shot dead in her doorway. The shooter also conveniently
>> 'committed suicide'. Once that message was heard, clearly,
>> no judge allowed any election fraud evidence or testimony
>> into any court record. Zip, nada, nothing.
>>
>> Not one case was heard, deliberated, decided. Every ruling
>> was procedural.
>
> I think I missed that one.
> I read that Jeffrey Epstein, was:
> "On June 30, 2008, after Epstein pleaded guilty to a state charge (one
> of two) of procuring for prostitution a girl below age 18,[117] he was
> sentenced to 18 months in prison."
>
> How does this relate to voter fraud court cases?
>
> And Den Hollander, the guy that shot the Judge's son had appeared
> before Salas in connection with a lawsuit he brought challenging the
> military's male-only draft.
>

Mr Epstein served no time in that 2008 case.

Recent documents released by US BOP surfaced this week:
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/01/20/didnt-kill-himself-the-first-time-did-epstein-really-attempt-suicide/

Mr Epstein is (was?)very well connected to the political
classes and enjoyed spectacular interference in his various
legal travails. I assumed everyone knew that.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 20:46:19 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 1/20/2022 8:02 PM, John B. wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 19:41:10 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/20/2022 7:02 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:40:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>>>> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have missed that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past. Photo of the
>>>>> diploma:
>>>>> <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
>>>>> Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was governor of
>>>>> California.
>>>>
>>>> Ah well, Jeff - many, Tommy - zero. So Jeff wins by a landslide (:-)
>>>> That is, unless Tommy can PROVE voter fraud (:-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> How about video of a felony in progress and telephone
>>> location data which matches?
>>>
>>> Last September first reports:
>>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-video-shows-traffickers-dumping-thousands-of-ballots-in-georgia-drop-boxes-in-middle-of-the-night/
>>>
>>> Follow up this month:
>>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-georgia-investigating-alleged-illegal-ballot-harvesting-in-2020-election/
>>>
>>> Then there's Pennsylvania with statutory and constitutional
>>> violations.
>>>
>>> Also Wisconsin, where the nearby Dane County Clerk ran
>>> television ads to brag about violating the statute on ballot
>>> harvesting.
>>>
>>> Judge Salas, in NJ, who was scheduled to hear a case
>>> involving Jeffrey Epstein, suffered the loss of her son,
>>> shot dead in her doorway. The shooter also conveniently
>>> 'committed suicide'. Once that message was heard, clearly,
>>> no judge allowed any election fraud evidence or testimony
>>> into any court record. Zip, nada, nothing.
>>>
>>> Not one case was heard, deliberated, decided. Every ruling
>>> was procedural.
>>
>> I think I missed that one.
>> I read that Jeffrey Epstein, was:
>> "On June 30, 2008, after Epstein pleaded guilty to a state charge (one
>> of two) of procuring for prostitution a girl below age 18,[117] he was
>> sentenced to 18 months in prison."
>>
>> How does this relate to voter fraud court cases?
>>
>> And Den Hollander, the guy that shot the Judge's son had appeared
>> before Salas in connection with a lawsuit he brought challenging the
>> military's male-only draft.
>>
>
>Mr Epstein served no time in that 2008 case.
>
>Recent documents released by US BOP surfaced this week:
>https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/01/20/didnt-kill-himself-the-first-time-did-epstein-really-attempt-suicide/
>
I read the above and it seems that several people reported an event in
somewhat different terms. Which is likely to be fairly normal. Read
any court case as described by the defending and prosecuting
attorneys.

>Mr Epstein is (was?)very well connected to the political
>classes and enjoyed spectacular interference in his various
>legal travails. I assumed everyone knew that.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 1/20/2022 4:40 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have missed that.
>
> Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past. Photo of the
> diploma:
> <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
> Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was governor of
> California.

Too bad your diploma was signed by one of the worst presidents in U.S.
history, though it was before he was president so that's okay.

Amusingly, my wife's UC diploma, my daughter's UC diploma, and my son's
CSU diploma, were all signed by the same governor, Jerry Brown, over a
30+ year span.

On 1/20/2022 5:41 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/20/2022 7:02 PM, John B. wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:40:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have missed that.
>>>
>>> Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past.  Photo of the
>>> diploma:
>>> <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
>>> Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was governor of
>>> California.
>>
>> Ah well, Jeff - many, Tommy - zero. So Jeff wins by a landslide (:-)
>> That is, unless Tommy can PROVE voter fraud (:-)
>>
>
> How about video of a felony in progress and telephone location data
> which matches?
>
> Last September first reports:
> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-video-shows-traffickers-dumping-thousands-of-ballots-in-georgia-drop-boxes-in-middle-of-the-night/
>
>
> Follow up this month:
> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-georgia-investigating-alleged-illegal-ballot-harvesting-in-2020-election/

You do your credibility no good by quoting worldtribune.com

On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 20:00:00 -0800, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>On 1/20/2022 5:41 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 1/20/2022 7:02 PM, John B. wrote:
>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 16:40:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>>> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have missed that.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past.  Photo of the
>>>> diploma:
>>>> <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
>>>> Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was governor of
>>>> California.
>>>
>>> Ah well, Jeff - many, Tommy - zero. So Jeff wins by a landslide (:-)
>>> That is, unless Tommy can PROVE voter fraud (:-)
>>>
>>
>> How about video of a felony in progress and telephone location data
>> which matches?
>>
>> Last September first reports:
>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-video-shows-traffickers-dumping-thousands-of-ballots-in-georgia-drop-boxes-in-middle-of-the-night/
>>
Note the above is dated September 3, 2021
Strangely, if one searches for "Georgia+voter fraud" one finds:
Dec 30, 2021
https://www.ajc.com/politics/election/five-fraud-claims-what-investigators-found/ISF2NV2RKBF2TIEI4ULXWJFZNA/
Jan 7 2022
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/01/07/fact-check-trump-makes-misleading-claim-georgia-2020-election/9128609002/
December 24, 2021
https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/kanye-west-publicist-pressed-georgia-election-worker-confess-bogus-fraud-charges-2021-12-10/
>>
>> Follow up this month:
>> https://www.worldtribune.com/report-georgia-investigating-alleged-illegal-ballot-harvesting-in-2020-election/
the above dated January 5, 2022
the following dated 7 Jan 2022
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/01/07/fact-check-trump-makes-misleading-claim-georgia-2020-election/9128609002/
>
>You do your credibility no good by quoting worldtribune.com
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 5:19:19 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 11:03:48 AM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > Poor little baby cannot figure it out for himself so he needs google references from someone else to show him how.
> > Sure tommy. This is your golden opportunity. I'm claiming you're full of shit and you have no proof. Prove me wrong. Prove to everyone here how much smarter you are than everyone else by posting something (anything) that backs up your claim. You thought you could do that with links about covid deaths (which turned out to be wrong). Why would now be any different? Nope, You're such an idiot you didn't even catch the mistake I made in my last post. No, I'm not going to point it out, you're the genius who claims PWM is used for cable testing, it should be obvious to you.
> > > Real talent on show there Flunky.
> > Yup, like the talent that you can't provide a link to prove your claim? I've backed up my claim repeatedly in this discussion. All you've done is:
> > > Because a little pansy like you has such a difficult time understanding what "light line" means
> > It doesn't mean anything. You made it up. You're lying and are too much of a coward to admit it, or you would have provided a link to support it.
> > > doesn't make it anything other than what it is.
> > Correct. It's a fabrication on your part. You made it up, thinking it was true, and now that you can't back up your claim, you resort to
> > " (predicted response, ad hominem + change of subject)."
> > > Ahh, the courage of anonymity and distance. You are so obviously proud of your ignorance.
> > QED.
> > Prove me wrong, you impotent half-wit. Ignorance is claiming PWM is used for cable testing and 'light lines' = fiber optics. Only an absolute moron with the technical background of a high school drop out that got kicked out of the air force would make such a claim, then stick by it with nothing more than ad hominems for support, and be proud of that behaviour. Your mother must have been incredibly disappointed in how much of an absolute loser you turned out to be, and if she wasn't she was a pretty shitty mother. The sad thing here, is that you've somehow deluded yourself into actually believing PWM is used for cable testing and 'light lines' = fiber optics. It's no wonder you were fired from every job you've ever had. You're an absolute idiot with the moral character of a pedophile priest. Either put up, or shut the fuck up.
>
> I have no intentions of designing a PWM wire tester and waste any more time on you.

Now tommy claims he was talking about TDR all the time - liar. Anyway, I didn't ask you to design one, I asked for a simple link - just one link - any link - that discusses using PWM in any context for testing cables. Besides that, If your clam was true that PWM is used for cable testing, You wouldn't have to design one, you could simple point to a link showing a test set-up for it.

> You aren't even a technician and you're telling an engineer that he doesn't know what he's talking about.

I'm an engineer, you're not.

> If you had ANY reputable experience at all you could at least understand how that would work.

I have no doubt that if someone had designed a PWM cable tester, I'd be able to figure out how it works. I can even understand how a PWM tester can be used to verify an adequate cable connection, but a PWM tester is _not_ used to test cables.

> You and Jeff can agree with each other than you can in some manner use a megger to check a mile of wire for shorts or opens.

And you can't?

>
> Flunky already uses a rather stupid comments. After he cites Time Domaine Reflectometry which is really what I was speaking of

No, tommy. You _never_ spoke of TDR. You _only_ spoke of PWM. Jeff and I have both mentioned TDR several times, and in every case you insisted you were talking about PWM.

> since it CAN use PWM to give additional information

No, tommy, TDR testers do _not_ use PWM. Changing the pulse width of a TDR signal is a common feature for most TDR testers, but changing the width of a TDR pulse is not PWM, it's changing the width of the TDR pulse - two very different things. The only time you mentioned TDR was to claim that TDR couldn't be used for testing fiber optic cables, and you were wrong about that too.

> like the idiot he is he talks about PWM motor drives.

and like the idiot hes is, tommy seems to dismiss what is probably the major application of PWM in order to attempt to dig himself out of his hole (and failing badly).

> Even in that Fluke comment it describes modification of waveforms due to signal input and cable length but stupid doesn't understand anything that means.

Because a faulty cable or one that has too much LC vector can roll off the transient (rise time) and limit the duration of the positive pulswidth, or there might be a voltage increase due to VSWR from an impedance mismatch in higher frequency applications. The PWM tester doesn't give you that information. it only provides a PWM signal. You need an oscilloscope or some other piece of signal analysis equipment to evaluate the signal, or as is the case in that article a Motor Drive Analyzer (MDA), listed under their oscilloscopes.
> Flunky and his butt buddy can't even understand that you use PWM to achieve Time Domaine Reflectometry since that pulse width of necessity changes with the length and other particulars of the wires being tested.

BZZZZT. Wrong again. TDR does _not_ use PWM. TDR is a signal pulse test technique. Changing the width of a TDR pulse is not PWM, it's changing the width of the TDR pulse - two very different things.

> While you two are sucking each other off remember that you're the one that looked directly at this and couldn't see the fucking functions I was talking about: https://hvtechnologies.com/the-basics-of-time-domain-reflectometry-tdr/

haha....this is good. He's been claiming all along that PWM is used to test cables, then sends me a link on TDR.
OK sparky, can you point to any place in that article that mentions PWM, or even manipulating pulse width?
No, you can't.
Why?
It isn't there.
Why?
Because PWM isn't used to test cables.

Still batting .000 sparky.

On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 5:21:50 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 1:27:52 PM UTC-8, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > One thing we _do_ know is that "light lines" have nothing to do with fiber optic telecom networks (any link at all tommy, any link at all...)
>
> "Snivel, one thing we know (sob) is that fiber optics aren't light lines"

The sniveling is from the person who can't provide links to his claims.

> They just happen to be lines that light travels down.

No one calls them that.

> They just happen to be what the phone company technicians call them.

No, they don't. Show a link, any link.

> They just happen to be what my house is connected to the Internet on.

You house is connected to a fiver optic line. Tell ya what sparky, call your ISP customer service and tell them you're having a problem with your "light line", see how far you get before they use the term "fiber connection".

On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 6:43:20 PM UTC-5, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:21:48 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >They just happen to be lines that light travels down.
> Perhaps light pipe? That was used at one time.

Not for fiber communication, a light pipe is generally used to bring an LED indicator from a PCB mounted LED out to a panel for the operator to see. I've seen applications where an LED signal is transferred from one device to another using a light pipe*, and I do seem to recall a rigid fiber application for transferring an optic data signal between to PCB - a type of optocoupling - but as far as a generic term for fiber optic cables, I've never seen 'light pipe' used.

* One brilliant engineer at my company came up with a novel method for detecting octane rating - run an IR signal through a light pipe in the fuel, then analyze the amount of loss which was due to absorption of the IR signal into the fuel. It worked but you had to recalibrate with every test due to variations in additives from each different fuel brand - season and regional formulations differ. It was fun, but impractical.

> >They just happen to be what the phone company technicians call them.
> Methinks otherwise:
>
> TIA Glossary of Telecommunications Terms:
> <https://standards.tiaonline.org/resources/telecom-glossary>
> "Sorry, we could not find this light line."
>
> ATT. This page provides an alphabetical list of common terms,
> abbreviations, and acronyms used in AT&T eMaintenance.
> <https://www.cnm.att.com/tmw-docs/help/aotsgloss.html>
> Nothing found.
>
> AT&T Language, Acronyms, and Telephony Talk (With Photos)
> <https://turbofuture.com/industrial/ATT-language-accronyms-and-telephony-talk>
> Nothing found.
>
> Google does find a number of "light line" definitions, none of which
> have anything to do with telecommunciations or data communications:
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=%22light+line%22>
>
> Just for fun:
> <https://www.dictionary.com/browse/light-line>
> noun Nautical.
> "the line or level to which a ship or boat sinks when fully supplied
> with fuel and ballast but without cargo."
>
> If all else fails, you could take the easy way out and simply declare
> that it was a spelling error.
> >They just happen to be what my house is connected to the Internet on.
> Let's see who offers fiber in San Leandro:
> <https://broadbandnow.com/California/San-Leandro>
> Looks like AT&T, Xfinity(Comcast), and Viasat. Viasat is satellite
> internet, so they're not your ISP. Xfinity offers business class
> fiber. For consumers, they offer "fiber only" service (also known as
> FTTH (fiber to the home). Mostly, they offer FTTP (fiber to the pole)
> service. The BroadbandNow site shows that Xfinity only offers coax in
> San Leandro, but that might be out of date. That leaves AT&T, which
> amazingly does offer four fiber service levels:
> <https://broadbandnow.com/ATT-deals>
> Congratulations. You passed the fiber fact check.
>
> Now, all you need to do for a perfect score is provide a vendor,
> explanation, or retraction for how "light lines" are used to test
> cables.
> --
> Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 7:41:02 PM UTC-5, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:02:01 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Did Jeff ever claim to be an engineer? I must have missed that.
> Yes, I made that claim at some point in the past. Photo of the
> diploma:
> <http://learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
> Notice that it's signed by Ronald Reagan, when he was governor of
> California.
> --
Kudos! Reagan notwithstanding

On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 8:30:35 PM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 1/20/2022 4:39 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >
> > This all started with him and Frank claiming that I wasn't an engineer because I don't have a degree.
> Tom, I worked with some brilliant guys who did not have an engineering
> degree. There's no shame in that; but they did not claim to be qualified
> engineers.
>
> The one guy I once worked with who falsely claimed to be an engineer
> exhibited behavior similar to yours. He hid evidence of his mistakes,
> took credit for work done by others, lied freely, etc. (BTW, he actually
> _did_ have the nickname "Sparky." It was given to him by an electrician
> who watched him nearly electrocute himself.)

LOL!!!!

>
> But if "this all started" refers to your reputation, it was going full
> steam before I ever had anything to do with you.
>
> --
> - Frank Krygowski