On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 6:46:17 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 10:21:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 9:06:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 7:55:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Sure, Pendragon, I'll check the archives and post the thread where PJR turned down your request for him to mentor you.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Saying you'll do it, and actually doing it, are two very different things.
> >> >> And, of course, when I do bump the post up, you'll pretend you didn't see it, as usual, little monkey.
> >> >>
> >> >> And so it goes.
> >>
> >> > Quote the relevant portion
> >> I'll bump the thread and link to it here.
> >
>
> > I'm not going to scroll through an entire thread
> The Google Groups links take you right to the relevant post.

Ummm... Usenet vet, you seem to know about thread links-- do you know that those links can also be to the specific post? I sure hope you know, since you constantly belittle me as some n00b compared to your veteran Usenet superiority...
And you sure as Hell can copy and paste people's typos to ridicule-- but you cannot copy and paste your evidence?
So shameless how that goes...
Judge Judy would so pwn your sorry ass, verbally spank it and make you look like a sniveling kindergartner. I can imagine Duckery standing there looking so dumbfounded stupid like some of those defendants. In court you would be told to present your evidence or GTFO with a lost case, none of this making them dig and find your evidence for your lame ass case.

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 8:59:37 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 6:46:17 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 10:21:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 9:06:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 7:55:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Sure, Pendragon, I'll check the archives and post the thread where PJR turned down your request for him to mentor you.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Saying you'll do it, and actually doing it, are two very different things.
> >> >> >> And, of course, when I do bump the post up, you'll pretend you didn't see it, as usual, little monkey.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> And so it goes.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Quote the relevant portion
> >> >> I'll bump the thread and link to it here.
> >> >
> >>
> >> > I'm not going to scroll through an entire thread
> >> The Google Groups links take you right to the relevant post.
> > Since I have never asked Peter any such thing
> I didn't expect you to admit it, little monkey.

More significantly: I didn't expect you to find the non-existent post.

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 8:59:37 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 6:46:17 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 10:21:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 9:06:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 7:55:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> Sure, Pendragon, I'll check the archives and post the thread where PJR turned down your request for him to mentor you.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Saying you'll do it, and actually doing it, are two very different things.
>> >> >> >> And, of course, when I do bump the post up, you'll pretend you didn't see it, as usual, little monkey.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> And so it goes.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Quote the relevant portion
>> >> >> I'll bump the thread and link to it here.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> > I'm not going to scroll through an entire thread
>> >> The Google Groups links take you right to the relevant post.
>> > Since I have never asked Peter any such thing
>> I didn't expect you to admit it, little monkey.

> More significantly: I didn't expect you

That's what you thought the last time I proved your memory was faulty, Pendragon, you shit spewing little monkey.

HTH and HAND.

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 9:39:09 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 8:59:37 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 6:46:17 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 10:21:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 9:06:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 7:55:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> Sure, Pendragon, I'll check the archives and post the thread where PJR turned down your request for him to mentor you.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > Saying you'll do it, and actually doing it, are two very different things.
> >> >> >> >> And, of course, when I do bump the post up, you'll pretend you didn't see it, as usual, little monkey.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> And so it goes.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Quote the relevant portion
> >> >> >> I'll bump the thread and link to it here.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> > I'm not going to scroll through an entire thread
> >> >> The Google Groups links take you right to the relevant post.
> >> > Since I have never asked Peter any such thing
> >> I didn't expect you to admit it, little monkey.
>
> > More significantly: I didn't expect you to find the non-existent post.
> That's what you thought the last time I proved your memory was faulty, Pendragon, you shit spewing little monkey.
>
> HTH and HAND.

For the 10th time, PP or STFU.

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 9:42:45 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 9:39:09 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >

> > > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 8:59:37 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 6:46:17 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 10:21:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 9:06:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 7:55:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> Sure, Pendragon, I'll check the archives and post the thread where PJR turned down your request for him to mentor you.
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> > Saying you'll do it, and actually doing it, are two very different things.
> > >> >> >> >> And, of course, when I do bump the post up, you'll pretend you didn't see it, as usual, little monkey.
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> And so it goes.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > Quote the relevant portion
> > >> >> >> I'll bump the thread and link to it here.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > I'm not going to scroll through an entire thread
> > >> >> The Google Groups links take you right to the relevant post.
> > >> > Since I have never asked Peter any such thing
> > >> I didn't expect you to admit it, little monkey.
> >
> > > More significantly: I didn't expect you to find the non-existent post.
> > That's what you thought the last time I proved your memory was faulty, Pendragon, you shit spewing little monkey.
> >
> > HTH and HAND.
> For the 10th

I'll bump the thread when I find it.

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 9:49:03 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 9:42:45 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 9:39:09 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >
>
> > > > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 8:59:37 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 6:46:17 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 10:21:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 9:06:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >> >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> >> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 7:55:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >> >> Sure, Pendragon, I'll check the archives and post the thread where PJR turned down your request for him to mentor you.
> > > >> >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> >> > Saying you'll do it, and actually doing it, are two very different things.
> > > >> >> >> >> And, of course, when I do bump the post up, you'll pretend you didn't see it, as usual, little monkey.
> > > >> >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> >> And so it goes.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > Quote the relevant portion
> > > >> >> >> I'll bump the thread and link to it here.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > I'm not going to scroll through an entire thread
> > > >> >> The Google Groups links take you right to the relevant post.
> > > >> > Since I have never asked Peter any such thing
> > > >> I didn't expect you to admit it, little monkey.
> > >
> > > > More significantly: I didn't expect you to find the non-existent post.
> > > That's what you thought the last time I proved your memory was faulty, Pendragon, you shit spewing little monkey.
> > >
> > > HTH and HAND.
> > For the 10th
> I'll bump the thread when I find it.

1) You won't find something that doesn't exist.
2) I block any threads that you create or bump (unread).

So, if you find some quote where you mistakenly think that I am asking PJR for anything, I will not see it unless you post it in this thread.

Is copy/pasting somehow beyond your admittedly limited capabilities?

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 10:09:23 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 9:49:03 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 9:42:45 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 9:39:09 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >
> >
> > > > > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 8:59:37 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 6:46:17 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 10:21:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > >> >> >>
> > > > >> >> >> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 9:06:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> >> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > >> >> >> >>
> > > > >> >> >> >> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 7:55:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> >> >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >> >> >> Sure, Pendragon, I'll check the archives and post the thread where PJR turned down your request for him to mentor you.
> > > > >> >> >> >>
> > > > >> >> >> >> > Saying you'll do it, and actually doing it, are two very different things.
> > > > >> >> >> >> And, of course, when I do bump the post up, you'll pretend you didn't see it, as usual, little monkey.
> > > > >> >> >> >>
> > > > >> >> >> >> And so it goes.
> > > > >> >> >>
> > > > >> >> >> > Quote the relevant portion
> > > > >> >> >> I'll bump the thread and link to it here.
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> > I'm not going to scroll through an entire thread
> > > > >> >> The Google Groups links take you right to the relevant post.
> > > > >> > Since I have never asked Peter any such thing
> > > > >> I didn't expect you to admit it, little monkey.
> > > >
> > > > > More significantly: I didn't expect you to find the non-existent post.
> > > > That's what you thought the last time I proved your memory was faulty, Pendragon, you shit spewing little monkey.
> > > >
> > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > For the 10th
> > I'll bump the thread when I find it.
> 1) You won't find something that doesn't exist.
> 2) I block any threads that you create or bump (unread).
>
> So, if you find some quote where you mistakenly think that I am asking PJR for anything, I will not see it unless you post it in this thread.

!!>.<!!

>
> Is copy/pasting somehow beyond your admittedly limited capabilities?

The thread where PJR laughed at your request for him to be your mentor exists, little monkey.
I'll bump it up to the top when I find it.

🙂

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 10:28:29 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> The thread where PJR laughed at your request for him to be your mentor exists, little monkey.
> I'll bump it up to the top when I find it.

PJR's posts are not to be trusted, Donkey. He also repeatedly turned me down for dates I'd never asked him for.

That's just his sense of humor at play.

I want you to see the post where I supposedly asked him.

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 11:05:48 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 10:28:29 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > The thread where PJR laughed at your request for him to be your mentor exists, little monkey.
> > I'll bump it up to the top when I find it.
> PJR's posts are not to be trusted, Donkey. He also repeatedly turned me down for dates I'd never asked him for.
>
> That's just his sense of humor at play.
>
> I want you to see the post where I supposedly asked him.

Don't hold your breath-- as we all know, Donkey only deals in shit slinging, not facts...

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 10:28:29 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> The thread where PJR laughed at your request for him to be your mentor exists, little monkey.
> I'll bump it up to the top when I find it.
>
> 🙂

But how will you do so with the 100 other threads you bump?
Is your lap dog doing to take a nap for awhile?

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 10:28:29 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> The thread where PJR laughed at your request for him to be your mentor exists, little monkey.
>> I'll bump it up to the top when I find it.

> PJR's posts are not to be trusted

As if yours are?

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 3:02:56 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 10:28:29 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> The thread where PJR laughed at your request for him to be your mentor exists, little monkey.
> >> I'll bump it up to the top when I find it.
>
> > PJR's posts are not to be trusted
> As if yours are?

PJR called you a wife beater, a deadbeat dad, and a Sterno-swilling plagiarist.

Do you think his posts should be taken as indisputable truth?

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 3:26:20 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 3:02:56 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> > > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 10:28:29 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> The thread where PJR laughed at your request for him to be your mentor exists, little monkey.
> > >> I'll bump it up to the top when I find it.
> >
> > > PJR's posts are not to be trusted
> > As if yours are?
> PJR called you a wife beater, a deadbeat dad, and a Sterno-swilling plagiarist.
>
> Do you think his posts should be taken as indisputable truth?

I think your lies are similar to his, do you can't be trusted, either.

HTH and HAND.

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 3:32:19 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 3:26:20 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 3:02:56 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 10:28:29 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> The thread where PJR laughed at your request for him to be your mentor exists, little monkey.
> > > >> I'll bump it up to the top when I find it.
> > >
> > > > PJR's posts are not to be trusted
> > > As if yours are?
> > PJR called you a wife beater, a deadbeat dad, and a Sterno-swilling plagiarist.
> >
> > Do you think his posts should be taken as indisputable truth?
> I think your lies are similar to his, do you can't be trusted, either.

Both PJR and I can be trusted, Donkey.

However, one has to take our comments *in context* -- of both the conversation in which they were offered and in their original intent.

PJR's "I still won't date you" doesn't mean that I'd ever asked him for a date. It is his way of simultaneously accepting, and making light of, a compliment I'd given.

If he ever said that he "Still won't be my mentor," I've no doubt that it was intended as nothing more than a variation on the above.

You seem incapable of grasping the concept of "context." I suppose that you further impose upon Dr. Schwimmer for his help.

Ash Wurthing wrote:

> On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 6:46:17 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 10:21:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 9:06:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 7:55:30 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Sure, Pendragon, I'll check the archives and post the thread where PJR turned down your request for him to mentor you.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Saying you'll do it, and actually doing it, are two very different things.
>> >> >> And, of course, when I do bump the post up, you'll pretend you didn't see it, as usual, little monkey.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And so it goes.
>> >>
>> >> > Quote the relevant portion
>> >> I'll bump the thread and link to it here.
>> >
>>
>> > I'm not going to scroll through an entire thread
>> The Google Groups links take you right to the relevant post.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> Ummm... Usenet vet, you seem to know about thread links-- do you know that those links can also be to the specific post?

Of course I do, Ash, see above. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

:)

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 3:54:39 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Both PJR and I can be trusted xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Ha ha, you are a delusional Voodoo Boy... ha ha.

At least Peter can post good poetry at times...!

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 3:26:20 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> PJR called you a wife beater, a deadbeat dad, and a Sterno-swilling plagiarist.

Typical Usenet smear tactics, PJR was doing that to others years before I arrived here.

HTH and HAND.

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-10-21 12:47 p.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>
>>> postpoetry
>>>
>>>
>>> although there's nothing left to say
>>> we're gonna say it anyway
>>> & if a reader doesn't read
>>> we'll call him something we don't need
>>> & if a critic calls it shit
>>> we won't believe a word of it
>>> & if a poet points that out
>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
>>> so we won't have to read her words
>>>
>>> or better yet let's write of war
>>> and fill a page or two with gore
>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
>>> motherfucker piss & shit
>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
>>>
>>> what else to do what else to say
>>> when everything is mere cliche?
>>> how else to make a reader feel
>>> or think that what we say is real?
>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
>>> when we're as comfortably numb
>>> but if we sweat through every motion
>>> we may feel a real emotion –
>>> at least it kills an hour or two
>>> and we have nothing else to do.
>>>
>>> ~~
>>> George J. Dance, 2007
>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
>>
>> The quandary, do I firebomb or do I care not at all? This prose I can appreciate reading, so regardless of what anyone else does, I will leave this alone...

> There is a third option; contribute to the poetry discussion. I'm not
> going to demand you write a critique, the way MMP is demanding it from
> Will and Zod, but at least you could show it to "Anon" et al and get me
> some feedback.

> I won't promise to change "pp", but I will promise to read whatever you
> bring me and try to learn from it.

>>
>> Shouldn't there be commas?
>> < some reeking flesh a severed head
>> < what else to do what else to say

> I wanted to cut all punctuation; it's part of a style I use when I write
> in a certain poetic voice -- no caps, numerals for numbers, no
> punctuation if possible. I couldn't cut the question marks or the dash,
> but the internal commas aren't all that missed; the lines are perfectly
> readable without them.

I missed this one, well put, George.

:)

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 5:11:16 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 3:26:20 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > PJR called you a wife beater, a deadbeat dad, and a Sterno-swilling plagiarist.
> Typical Usenet smear tactics, PJR was doing that to others years before I arrived here.

Your own "autobiography" shows you to have been a deadbeat dad (sleeping in the backroom of a lumber yard, while your wife and son lived with her parents -- and blowing what little money you made on LSD).

And, based on Kathy's having run away, and with both family and the police wanting you to believe that she was dead, I strongly suspect that you used to beat her.

You stole Michael Cook's rewrite of "Karma Bombs," and you stole Jim's edit of your "Shambles" post, so the plagiarism charge is good as well.

That just leaves the Sterno-swilling in question. Although, (again, based on your autobiography and your poetry) you took various illegal substances including LSD and cocaine, and got drunk as often as possible, so his Sterno story is only a minor exaggeration.

For starters, your plagiarism accusation is a lie.

I wrote every word of both "Shambles" and "Karma Bombs".

As for your misrepresentations of past, that's what they are, lies and attempted smears.

In other words, why do you lie so much, Michael Pendragon, you sleazy shit spewing little monkey?

🙂

On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 4:27:58 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 3:54:39 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Both PJR and I can be trusted xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Ha ha, you are a delusional Voodoo Boy... ha ha.
>
> At least Peter can post good poetry at times...!

Not often, though.

🙂

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:24:03 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> For starters, your plagiarism accusation is a lie.
>
> I wrote every word of both "Shambles" and "Karma Bombs".
>
> As for your misrepresentations of past, that's what they are, lies and attempted smears.
>
> In other words, why do you lie so much, Michael Pendragon, you sleazy shit spewing little monkey?

Wrong, Donkey.

In both cases, the finished product is more than just the words that were written -- it is also the words that were removed, and the line breaks that were imposed on them.

Both of your poems were significantly altered by Mr. Cook and Mr. Senetto (in the latter case, the poem was created out of one of your prose posts); and belong as much to them as they do to you.

IOW: both poems were co-authored (at least in their present form).

When you claim that the poems are solely your creation and/or property, you are committing a form of plagiarism.

Michael Cook edited and adapted your "Karma Bombs." You stole his edited adaptation in return.

Similarly, Jim created a poem, which he named "Shambles," out of one of your posts, only to have you steal the poem from him.

You have the right to claim both works in their original form. However, when you use the adaptations, you *must* credit Mr. Cook and Mr. Senetto as co-authors.

Not only have you refused to credit them, but you have accused Mr. Cook of having plagiarized you -- which makes you guilty of both plagiarism and slander on that count.

You are a plagiarist -- regardless of whether you know and understand why (ignorance of the law is no excuse).

As for my statements regarding your past, your autobiography indisputable shows that you were a deadbeat husband and father (getting wasted in the back room of lumber yard while your wife raised and supported your child); and strongly implies that your wife, her family, and the local police all feared for her safety in your presence, so much so as to conspire to make you believe that she was dead, while reestablishing a new identity and life in another state.

Again, your Sterno addiction is the only one of PJR's accusations that cannot be either proven or strongly supported -- and it appears to be only a mild exaggeration.

There is a thin dividing line between being a bohemian "artist" type, and a self-centered, self-indulgent, amoral p.o.s., and you crossed over that one ages ago.

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 11:25:12 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-11-02 10:12 a.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 9:57:28 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-01 5:31 p.m., Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 3:52:24 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> >>>>>> I don't remember, we should ask George Dance, little monkey.
> >>>>> If you like. I do remember reading PJR's accusation, and finding it disturbingly convincing.
> >>>> Peter has been known to lie sometimes though....
> >>>
> >>> Funny who the whippin' fools cannot provide proof. But who needs proof when they know they, like Trump, can get away with lying and misrepresenting!
> >> You're doing the same thing you're complaining about Zod doing,
> >> Ashtroll: accusing him of "lying" but not even trying to provide proof.
> >>
> >> Why do you constantly complain about others doing the same things you do
> >> yourself?
> >>
> >> That's a rhetorical question, of course; because that's what you do, you
> >> suspect everyone else of doing the same things.
> >
> > And why do you also do what you say is so wrong, George Dance?
> > Like grossly misrepresenting (paraphrasing you, such a superior person so lamely excuse) my words.
> You havn't 'paraphrased' anything, stupid troll. You merely accused me
> of the same thing you accused Zod of, but didn't supply any "words" of
> mine to back up your claim.

Read and weep, tat ass master:

george...@yahoo.ca
Feb 10, 2022, 3:06:53 PM
"Don't worry, we all saw what happened there. You decided to mock someone
else's comix as an authority, pretending that you "know all about
comics", your credentials being that ***your work is on display at the
Library of Congress.*** Then you got challenged to back up your bullshit,
which of course you couldn't do."
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/HMMjII3GLxU/m/ftqWF-qiBAAJ

**what Dance left out afraid that people would see it**
"Do and say as you want, but it doesn't change the fact that you're stuck here wasting your time in fighting for your glory days acid flashbacks and the rest of the world has left you behind. You lost the battle for new readers. "
- - - - that was the so called "mocking" - - - -
"And to rub salt in, I know all about comics, have had work _deposited_
(not registered, that's the USCO) with the Library of Congress for over
30 years now....." ---Ash Wurthing (Saturday, May 15, 2021)
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/IuKNTT9c__0/m/FfDSBlmNCQAJ

** And the rest that Duckery and his dupes don't want anyone to see**
Ash Wurthing
May 15, 2021, 6:26:07 PM
"You obviously didn't understand that my statement was a final dismissal of you (and the only reason I finally mentioned anything of myself-- for the irony, the one person you could have had a shared interest with)"
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/IuKNTT9c__0/m/74fzbruSCQAJ

As Duckery always brays: Why do you lie and misrepresent so much?

"Tell 'em the whole story, tell 'em you surround yourself with ill intentions
How its bad karma and it eats at you and your henchmen"
--'La Petit Mort' ~~KING 810

> > You sold your dignity to help your cash cow dominate this group as his personal "work" promotion place.
> Whatever; you sold yours for a chance to "collaborate" with someone you
> thought was a "real poet", Chimp Obsesso.
>
>
> > You're hardly superior,
>
>
> I'm certainly superior to you in some things. Morally and ethically, for
> one: you constantly lie and bullshit for the win, while I stick to
> telling the truth.
> > you're as lowly as > the worst Usenet troll, and I now believe some of the accusations against you because you personally proved them with your behavior here.
> Given that you're a proven liar and bullshitter, there's no reason to
> think you actually believe any of them. It's more likely you're lying
> and bullshitting about that for a win, too.

No, you're wrong, Pendragon.

I wrote "Karma Bombs", every word. No plagiarism.

I wrote "Shambles", every word. No plagiarism.

HTH and HAND.