General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>> Zod Zodly wrote:

>>> On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 1:34:28 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>> On 2022-10-19 9:36 p.m., Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > "We know that The Beatles and myself rest on the "Decent" level.
>>>> >
>>>> > Nelly Black is at least one level lower than The Beatles and me"
>>>> Good to see ace reporter "Edward Rochester Esq." is back, with another
>>>> fake story for NGBS.
>>>>
>>>> In fact, it was MMP who placed Will and the Beatles on the same level,
>>>> with Nelly Black lower down. He confirmed that.
>>>>
>>>> <quote>
>>>> On 2022-10-20 11:59 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>>> > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:25:13 AM UTC-4,
>>>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>> >> Since you're here, Michael: do you remember the thread where you
>>>> >> favorably compared Will's music to the Beatles"?
>>>> >
>>>> > No. I remember placing it on a level with that of the Beatles.
>>>> >
>>>> > I.e., While I don't particularly care for either of their records, I
>>>> don't find their music offensive (to my eardrums, not my moral
>>>> sensibilities).
>>>> </quote>
>>>>
>>>> MMP's entitled to his opinion. Some people don't like the Beatles; hell,
>>>> some don't even like the Bells! There's no accounting for taste.
>>>>
>>>> What isn't fine is your pretending Will had made that comment, when he
>>>> was just repeating MMP's statement. You're lying, just for fun. I think
>>>> you should stop, for your own good.
>>>>
>>>> Think about it: When you tell lies about Will that everyone knows are
>>>> lies, how do you expect any of them to believe you when they don't know?
>>>> Why should they take the word of a habitual liar?

>>> Of course never mind the clueless ignorance Pen shows when he declares the BEATLES to be merely "decent"...

>>> And no offense to Doc, I'm sure he is aware of the humor in such an absurd judgement from Pen..

>> No offense taken, Zod, Pendragon put me on the level of The Beatles, I'd never considered myself a peer of four of the most talented artists of all time.

>> 🙂

> Hilariously, Pen puts Tiny TIM and PAT Boone at the top level, way above the BEATLES....!!

Pendragon also thinks he's a better poet than T.S. Eliot, so he obviously sees things differently than "most people".

🙂

On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 1:54:10 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:50:32 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-10-22 10:03 a.m., NancyGene wrote:
> >> > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:51:34 AM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> >> On 2022-10-21 12:58 p.m., NancyGene wrote:
> >> >>> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 4:47:48 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >> >>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> >>>>> postpoetry
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> although there's nothing left to say
> >> >>>>> we're gonna say it anyway
> >> >>>>> & if a reader doesn't read
> >> >>>>> we'll call him something we don't need
> >> >>>>> & if a critic calls it shit
> >> >>>>> we won't believe a word of it
> >> >>>>> & if a poet points that out
> >> >>>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
> >> >>>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
> >> >>>>> so we won't have to read her words
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> or better yet let's write of war
> >> >>>>> and fill a page or two with gore
> >> >>>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
> >> >>>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
> >> >>>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
> >> >>>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
> >> >>>>> motherfucker piss & shit
> >> >>>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> what else to do what else to say
> >> >>>>> when everything is mere cliche?
> >> >>>>> how else to make a reader feel
> >> >>>>> or think that what we say is real?
> >> >>>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
> >> >>>>> when we're as comfortably numb
> >> >>>>> but if we sweat through every motion
> >> >>>>> we may feel a real emotion –
> >> >>>>> at least it kills an hour or two
> >> >>>>> and we have nothing else to do.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> ~~
> >> >>>>> George J. Dance, 2007
> >> >>>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
> >> >>>
> >> >>> George Dance don't need no stinkin' commas.
> >> >> It isn't about what George Dance needs, "Professor"; it's about what the
> >> >> speaker of the poem needs.
> >> >
> >> > The speaker in your poem is not "a muse."
> >> I never said he was. Where did you get the idea the speaker might be a
> >> muse?
> >> > If poetry is meant to be read aloud, how does your lack of punctuation help your poem?
> >> Use the line and stanza breaks. That's what they're there for.
> >> > You did not address the visual demand for six ampersands.
> >> It's just part of the style. "and" is replaced by &.
> >> > Does the speaker say "ampersand" in each line?
> >> No, "Professor,", an ampersand is pronounced "and." I can understand you
> >> not knowing that, but it's something you could have Googled.
> >> >> Let me quote (from memory) from Karla, another wannabe online poetry
> >> >> teacher we once had here:
> >> >>
> >> >> "Do not confuse the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem.."
> >> > That saying has been used too much here.
> >> Not enough, considering how many tend to forget it so often.
> >> > The poem still represents your attempt at creativity.
> >> Oh, good; you haven't started calling it "plagiarized" yet.
> > Should she have?
>
> That would be a typical NancyGene troll stunt, yes.

I didn't ask if she would have (in your paranoid opinion), but *should* she have.

George Dance is known (with or without justification) for being a plagiarist. His preemptive defense smacks a bit too strongly of over-protestation.

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 1:54:10 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:50:32 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> >> On 2022-10-22 10:03 a.m., NancyGene wrote:
>> >> > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:51:34 AM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>
>
>> >> >>>>> postpoetry
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> although there's nothing left to say
>> >> >>>>> we're gonna say it anyway
>> >> >>>>> & if a reader doesn't read
>> >> >>>>> we'll call him something we don't need
>> >> >>>>> & if a critic calls it shit
>> >> >>>>> we won't believe a word of it
>> >> >>>>> & if a poet points that out
>> >> >>>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
>> >> >>>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
>> >> >>>>> so we won't have to read her words
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> or better yet let's write of war
>> >> >>>>> and fill a page or two with gore
>> >> >>>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
>> >> >>>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
>> >> >>>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
>> >> >>>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
>> >> >>>>> motherfucker piss & shit
>> >> >>>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> what else to do what else to say
>> >> >>>>> when everything is mere cliche?
>> >> >>>>> how else to make a reader feel
>> >> >>>>> or think that what we say is real?
>> >> >>>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
>> >> >>>>> when we're as comfortably numb
>> >> >>>>> but if we sweat through every motion
>> >> >>>>> we may feel a real emotion –
>> >> >>>>> at least it kills an hour or two
>> >> >>>>> and we have nothing else to do.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> ~~
>> >> >>>>> George J. Dance, 2007
>> >> >>>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> George Dance don't need no stinkin' commas.
>> >> >> It isn't about what George Dance needs, "Professor"; it's about what the
>> >> >> speaker of the poem needs.
>> >> >
>> >> > The speaker in your poem is not "a muse."
>> >> I never said he was. Where did you get the idea the speaker might be a
>> >> muse?
>> >> > If poetry is meant to be read aloud, how does your lack of punctuation help your poem?
>> >> Use the line and stanza breaks. That's what they're there for.
>> >> > You did not address the visual demand for six ampersands.
>> >> It's just part of the style. "and" is replaced by &.
>> >> > Does the speaker say "ampersand" in each line?
>> >> No, "Professor,", an ampersand is pronounced "and." I can understand you
>> >> not knowing that, but it's something you could have Googled.
>> >> >> Let me quote (from memory) from Karla, another wannabe online poetry
>> >> >> teacher we once had here:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Do not confuse the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem.."
>> >> > That saying has been used too much here.
>> >> Not enough, considering how many tend to forget it so often.
>> >> > The poem still represents your attempt at creativity.
>> >> Oh, good; you haven't started calling it "plagiarized" yet.
>> > Should she have?
>>
>> That would be a typical NancyGene troll stunt, yes.

> I didn't ask if she would have (in your paranoid opinion), but *should* she have.

> George Dance is known (with or without justification) for

That's just a smear from PJR, Pen, you know that....

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 1:54:10 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:50:32 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> >> On 2022-10-22 10:03 a.m., NancyGene wrote:
>> >> > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:51:34 AM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>
>> >> >>>>> postpoetry
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> although there's nothing left to say
>> >> >>>>> we're gonna say it anyway
>> >> >>>>> & if a reader doesn't read
>> >> >>>>> we'll call him something we don't need
>> >> >>>>> & if a critic calls it shit
>> >> >>>>> we won't believe a word of it
>> >> >>>>> & if a poet points that out
>> >> >>>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
>> >> >>>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
>> >> >>>>> so we won't have to read her words
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> or better yet let's write of war
>> >> >>>>> and fill a page or two with gore
>> >> >>>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
>> >> >>>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
>> >> >>>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
>> >> >>>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
>> >> >>>>> motherfucker piss & shit
>> >> >>>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> what else to do what else to say
>> >> >>>>> when everything is mere cliche?
>> >> >>>>> how else to make a reader feel
>> >> >>>>> or think that what we say is real?
>> >> >>>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
>> >> >>>>> when we're as comfortably numb
>> >> >>>>> but if we sweat through every motion
>> >> >>>>> we may feel a real emotion –
>> >> >>>>> at least it kills an hour or two
>> >> >>>>> and we have nothing else to do.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> ~~
>> >> >>>>> George J. Dance, 2007
>> >> >>>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> George Dance don't need no stinkin' commas.
>> >> >> It isn't about what George Dance needs, "Professor"; it's about what the
>> >> >> speaker of the poem needs.
>> >> >
>> >> > The speaker in your poem is not "a muse."
>> >> I never said he was. Where did you get the idea the speaker might be a
>> >> muse?
>> >> > If poetry is meant to be read aloud, how does your lack of punctuation help your poem?
>> >> Use the line and stanza breaks. That's what they're there for.
>> >> > You did not address the visual demand for six ampersands.
>> >> It's just part of the style. "and" is replaced by &.
>> >> > Does the speaker say "ampersand" in each line?
>> >> No, "Professor,", an ampersand is pronounced "and." I can understand you
>> >> not knowing that, but it's something you could have Googled.
>> >> >> Let me quote (from memory) from Karla, another wannabe online poetry
>> >> >> teacher we once had here:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Do not confuse the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem.."
>> >> > That saying has been used too much here.
>> >> Not enough, considering how many tend to forget it so often.
>> >> > The poem still represents your attempt at creativity.
>> >> Oh, good; you haven't started calling it "plagiarized" yet.
>> > Should she have?
>>
>> That would be a typical NancyGene troll stunt, yes.

> I didn't ask if she would have (in your paranoid opinion), but *should* she have.

> George Dance is known (with or without justification) for being a plagiarist

Accused by trolls but this has never been proven, as you know.

HTH and HAND.

On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 1:54:10 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:50:32 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-10-22 10:03 a.m., NancyGene wrote:
> >> > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:51:34 AM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> >> On 2022-10-21 12:58 p.m., NancyGene wrote:
> >> >>> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 4:47:48 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >> >>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> >>>>> postpoetry
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> although there's nothing left to say
> >> >>>>> we're gonna say it anyway
> >> >>>>> & if a reader doesn't read
> >> >>>>> we'll call him something we don't need
> >> >>>>> & if a critic calls it shit
> >> >>>>> we won't believe a word of it
> >> >>>>> & if a poet points that out
> >> >>>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
> >> >>>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
> >> >>>>> so we won't have to read her words
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> or better yet let's write of war
> >> >>>>> and fill a page or two with gore
> >> >>>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
> >> >>>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
> >> >>>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
> >> >>>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
> >> >>>>> motherfucker piss & shit
> >> >>>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> what else to do what else to say
> >> >>>>> when everything is mere cliche?
> >> >>>>> how else to make a reader feel
> >> >>>>> or think that what we say is real?
> >> >>>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
> >> >>>>> when we're as comfortably numb
> >> >>>>> but if we sweat through every motion
> >> >>>>> we may feel a real emotion –
> >> >>>>> at least it kills an hour or two
> >> >>>>> and we have nothing else to do.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> ~~
> >> >>>>> George J. Dance, 2007
> >> >>>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
> >> >>>
> >> >>> George Dance don't need no stinkin' commas.
> >> >> It isn't about what George Dance needs, "Professor"; it's about what the
> >> >> speaker of the poem needs.
> >> >
> >> > The speaker in your poem is not "a muse."
> >> I never said he was. Where did you get the idea the speaker might be a
> >> muse?
> >> > If poetry is meant to be read aloud, how does your lack of punctuation help your poem?
> >> Use the line and stanza breaks. That's what they're there for.
> >> > You did not address the visual demand for six ampersands.
> >> It's just part of the style. "and" is replaced by &.
> >> > Does the speaker say "ampersand" in each line?
> >> No, "Professor,", an ampersand is pronounced "and." I can understand you
> >> not knowing that, but it's something you could have Googled.
> >> >> Let me quote (from memory) from Karla, another wannabe online poetry
> >> >> teacher we once had here:
> >> >>
> >> >> "Do not confuse the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem.."
> >> > That saying has been used too much here.
> >> Not enough, considering how many tend to forget it so often.
> >> > The poem still represents your attempt at creativity.
> >> Oh, good; you haven't started calling it "plagiarized" yet.
> > Should she have?
>
> That would be a typical NancyGene troll stunt, yes.

As Nancy G. demonstrates with each and every day here...

On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 4:35:14 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 1:54:10 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> > > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:50:32 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >> On 2022-10-22 10:03 a.m., NancyGene wrote:
> > >> > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:51:34 AM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >> >> On 2022-10-21 12:58 p.m., NancyGene wrote:
> > >> >>> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 4:47:48 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > >> >>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 9:48:09 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >> >>>>> postpoetry
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> although there's nothing left to say
> > >> >>>>> we're gonna say it anyway
> > >> >>>>> & if a reader doesn't read
> > >> >>>>> we'll call him something we don't need
> > >> >>>>> & if a critic calls it shit
> > >> >>>>> we won't believe a word of it
> > >> >>>>> & if a poet points that out
> > >> >>>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
> > >> >>>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
> > >> >>>>> so we won't have to read her words
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> or better yet let's write of war
> > >> >>>>> and fill a page or two with gore
> > >> >>>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
> > >> >>>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
> > >> >>>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
> > >> >>>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
> > >> >>>>> motherfucker piss & shit
> > >> >>>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> what else to do what else to say
> > >> >>>>> when everything is mere cliche?
> > >> >>>>> how else to make a reader feel
> > >> >>>>> or think that what we say is real?
> > >> >>>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
> > >> >>>>> when we're as comfortably numb
> > >> >>>>> but if we sweat through every motion
> > >> >>>>> we may feel a real emotion –
> > >> >>>>> at least it kills an hour or two
> > >> >>>>> and we have nothing else to do.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> ~~
> > >> >>>>> George J. Dance, 2007
> > >> >>>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> George Dance don't need no stinkin' commas.
> > >> >> It isn't about what George Dance needs, "Professor"; it's about what the
> > >> >> speaker of the poem needs.
> > >> >
> > >> > The speaker in your poem is not "a muse."
> > >> I never said he was. Where did you get the idea the speaker might be a
> > >> muse?
> > >> > If poetry is meant to be read aloud, how does your lack of punctuation help your poem?
> > >> Use the line and stanza breaks. That's what they're there for.
> > >> > You did not address the visual demand for six ampersands.
> > >> It's just part of the style. "and" is replaced by &.
> > >> > Does the speaker say "ampersand" in each line?
> > >> No, "Professor,", an ampersand is pronounced "and." I can understand you
> > >> not knowing that, but it's something you could have Googled.
> > >> >> Let me quote (from memory) from Karla, another wannabe online poetry
> > >> >> teacher we once had here:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "Do not confuse the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > >> > That saying has been used too much here.
> > >> Not enough, considering how many tend to forget it so often.
> > >> > The poem still represents your attempt at creativity.
> > >> Oh, good; you haven't started calling it "plagiarized" yet.
> > > Should she have?
> >
> > That would be a typical NancyGene troll stunt, yes.
> As Nancy G. demonstrates with each and every day here...

Funny how NancyGene has not mentioned plagiarism in this thread.

George Dance wrongly insinuated that she was going to accuse him of plagiarism, and you and your Donkey are (predictably) behaving as if she had.

I think the "demonstration" has been made inescapably clear.

On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 5:11:23 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 4:35:14 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 1:54:10 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:50:32 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>
> > > >> >>>>> postpoetry
> > > >> >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>> although there's nothing left to say
> > > >> >>>>> we're gonna say it anyway
> > > >> >>>>> & if a reader doesn't read
> > > >> >>>>> we'll call him something we don't need
> > > >> >>>>> & if a critic calls it shit
> > > >> >>>>> we won't believe a word of it
> > > >> >>>>> & if a poet points that out
> > > >> >>>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
> > > >> >>>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
> > > >> >>>>> so we won't have to read her words
> > > >> >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>> or better yet let's write of war
> > > >> >>>>> and fill a page or two with gore
> > > >> >>>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
> > > >> >>>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
> > > >> >>>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
> > > >> >>>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
> > > >> >>>>> motherfucker piss & shit
> > > >> >>>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
> > > >> >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>> what else to do what else to say
> > > >> >>>>> when everything is mere cliche?
> > > >> >>>>> how else to make a reader feel
> > > >> >>>>> or think that what we say is real?
> > > >> >>>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
> > > >> >>>>> when we're as comfortably numb
> > > >> >>>>> but if we sweat through every motion
> > > >> >>>>> we may feel a real emotion –
> > > >> >>>>> at least it kills an hour or two
> > > >> >>>>> and we have nothing else to do.
> > > >> >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>> ~~
> > > >> >>>>> George J. Dance, 2007
> > > >> >>>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> George Dance don't need no stinkin' commas.
> > > >> >> It isn't about what George Dance needs, "Professor"; it's about what the
> > > >> >> speaker of the poem needs.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The speaker in your poem is not "a muse."
> > > >> I never said he was. Where did you get the idea the speaker might be a
> > > >> muse?
> > > >> > If poetry is meant to be read aloud, how does your lack of punctuation help your poem?
> > > >> Use the line and stanza breaks. That's what they're there for.
> > > >> > You did not address the visual demand for six ampersands.
> > > >> It's just part of the style. "and" is replaced by &.
> > > >> > Does the speaker say "ampersand" in each line?
> > > >> No, "Professor,", an ampersand is pronounced "and." I can understand you
> > > >> not knowing that, but it's something you could have Googled.
> > > >> >> Let me quote (from memory) from Karla, another wannabe online poetry
> > > >> >> teacher we once had here:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> "Do not confuse the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > > >> > That saying has been used too much here.
> > > >> Not enough, considering how many tend to forget it so often.
> > > >> > The poem still represents your attempt at creativity.
> > > >> Oh, good; you haven't started calling it "plagiarized" yet.
> > > > Should she have?
> > >
> > > That would be a typical NancyGene troll stunt, yes.
> > As Nancy G. demonstrates with each and every day here...
> Funny how NancyGene has not mentioned plagiarism

Probably because there is none...?

Ha ha.

On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 5:26:16 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 5:11:23 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail..com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 4:35:14 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 1:54:10 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:50:32 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >
> > > > >> >>>>> postpoetry
> > > > >> >>>>>
> > > > >> >>>>>
> > > > >> >>>>> although there's nothing left to say
> > > > >> >>>>> we're gonna say it anyway
> > > > >> >>>>> & if a reader doesn't read
> > > > >> >>>>> we'll call him something we don't need
> > > > >> >>>>> & if a critic calls it shit
> > > > >> >>>>> we won't believe a word of it
> > > > >> >>>>> & if a poet points that out
> > > > >> >>>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
> > > > >> >>>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
> > > > >> >>>>> so we won't have to read her words
> > > > >> >>>>>
> > > > >> >>>>> or better yet let's write of war
> > > > >> >>>>> and fill a page or two with gore
> > > > >> >>>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
> > > > >> >>>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
> > > > >> >>>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
> > > > >> >>>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
> > > > >> >>>>> motherfucker piss & shit
> > > > >> >>>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
> > > > >> >>>>>
> > > > >> >>>>> what else to do what else to say
> > > > >> >>>>> when everything is mere cliche?
> > > > >> >>>>> how else to make a reader feel
> > > > >> >>>>> or think that what we say is real?
> > > > >> >>>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
> > > > >> >>>>> when we're as comfortably numb
> > > > >> >>>>> but if we sweat through every motion
> > > > >> >>>>> we may feel a real emotion –
> > > > >> >>>>> at least it kills an hour or two
> > > > >> >>>>> and we have nothing else to do.
> > > > >> >>>>>
> > > > >> >>>>> ~~
> > > > >> >>>>> George J. Dance, 2007
> > > > >> >>>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> George Dance don't need no stinkin' commas.
> > > > >> >> It isn't about what George Dance needs, "Professor"; it's about what the
> > > > >> >> speaker of the poem needs.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > The speaker in your poem is not "a muse."
> > > > >> I never said he was. Where did you get the idea the speaker might be a
> > > > >> muse?
> > > > >> > If poetry is meant to be read aloud, how does your lack of punctuation help your poem?
> > > > >> Use the line and stanza breaks. That's what they're there for.
> > > > >> > You did not address the visual demand for six ampersands.
> > > > >> It's just part of the style. "and" is replaced by &.
> > > > >> > Does the speaker say "ampersand" in each line?
> > > > >> No, "Professor,", an ampersand is pronounced "and." I can understand you
> > > > >> not knowing that, but it's something you could have Googled.
> > > > >> >> Let me quote (from memory) from Karla, another wannabe online poetry
> > > > >> >> teacher we once had here:
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> "Do not confuse the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem."
> > > > >> > That saying has been used too much here.
> > > > >> Not enough, considering how many tend to forget it so often.
> > > > >> > The poem still represents your attempt at creativity.
> > > > >> Oh, good; you haven't started calling it "plagiarized" yet.
> > > > > Should she have?
> > > >
> > > > That would be a typical NancyGene troll stunt, yes.
> > > As Nancy G. demonstrates with each and every day here...
> > Funny how NancyGene has not mentioned plagiarism
> Probably because there is none...?

George Dance is the only one who'd insinuated that there was, Stink.

Will Dockery wrote:

> Zod Zodly wrote:

>> On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 1:34:28 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>> On 2022-10-19 9:36 p.m., Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
>
>>>>> > "We know that The Beatles and myself rest on the "Decent" level.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Nelly Black is at least one level lower than The Beatles and me"
>>>>> Good to see ace reporter "Edward Rochester Esq." is back, with another
>>>>> fake story for NGBS.
>>>>>
>>>>> In fact, it was MMP who placed Will and the Beatles on the same level,
>>>>> with Nelly Black lower down. He confirmed that.
>>>>>
>>>>> <quote>
>>>>> On 2022-10-20 11:59 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>>>> > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:25:13 AM UTC-4,
>>>>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>> >> Since you're here, Michael: do you remember the thread where you
>>>>> >> favorably compared Will's music to the Beatles"?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > No. I remember placing it on a level with that of the Beatles.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I.e., While I don't particularly care for either of their records, I
>>>>> don't find their music offensive (to my eardrums, not my moral
>>>>> sensibilities).
>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>
>>>>> MMP's entitled to his opinion. Some people don't like the Beatles; hell,
>>>>> some don't even like the Bells! There's no accounting for taste.
>>>>>
>>>>> What isn't fine is your pretending Will had made that comment, when he
>>>>> was just repeating MMP's statement. You're lying, just for fun. I think
>>>>> you should stop, for your own good.
>>>>>
>>>>> Think about it: When you tell lies about Will that everyone knows are
>>>>> lies, how do you expect any of them to believe you when they don't know?
>>>>> Why should they take the word of a habitual liar?

>>>> Of course never mind the clueless ignorance Pen shows when he declares the BEATLES to be merely "decent"...

>>>> And no offense to Doc, I'm sure he is aware of the humor in such an absurd judgement from Pen..

>>> No offense taken, Zod, Pendragon put me on the level of The Beatles, I'd never considered myself a peer of four of the most talented artists of all time.

>>> 🙂

>> Hilariously, Pen puts Tiny TIM and PAT Boone at the top level, way above the BEATLES....!!

> Pendragon also thinks he's a better poet than T.S. Eliot, so he obviously sees things differently than "most people".

Pat Boone and Tiny Tim as on a far lower level than the BEATLES, as most people know...

The Beatles - Hey Jude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_MjCqQoLLA

On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 8:46:55 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 6:38:58 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > Zod Zodly wrote:
> >
> > >> On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 1:34:28 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >>> On 2022-10-19 9:36 p.m., Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > "We know that The Beatles and myself rest on the "Decent" level.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Nelly Black is at least one level lower than The Beatles and me"
> > >>> Good to see ace reporter "Edward Rochester Esq." is back, with another
> > >>> fake story for NGBS.
> > >>>
> > >>> In fact, it was MMP who placed Will and the Beatles on the same level,
> > >>> with Nelly Black lower down. He confirmed that.
> > >>>
> > >>> <quote>
> > >>> On 2022-10-20 11:59 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >>> > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:25:13 AM UTC-4,
> > >>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >>> >> Since you're here, Michael: do you remember the thread where you
> > >>> >> favorably compared Will's music to the Beatles"?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > No. I remember placing it on a level with that of the Beatles.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I.e., While I don't particularly care for either of their records, I
> > >>> don't find their music offensive (to my eardrums, not my moral
> > >>> sensibilities).
> > >>> </quote>
> > >>>
> > >>> MMP's entitled to his opinion. Some people don't like the Beatles; hell,
> > >>> some don't even like the Bells! There's no accounting for taste.
> > >>>
> > >>> What isn't fine is your pretending Will had made that comment, when he
> > >>> was just repeating MMP's statement. You're lying, just for fun. I think
> > >>> you should stop, for your own good.
> > >>>
> > >>> Think about it: When you tell lies about Will that everyone knows are
> > >>> lies, how do you expect any of them to believe you when they don't know?
> > >>> Why should they take the word of a habitual liar?
> >
> > >> Of course never mind the clueless ignorance Pen shows when he declares the BEATLES to be merely "decent"...
> >
> > >> And no offense to Doc, I'm sure he is aware of the humor in such an absurd judgement from Pen..
> >
> >
> > > No offense taken, Zod, Pendragon put me on the level of The Beatles, I'd never considered myself a peer of four of the most talented artists of all time.
> >
>
> > Hilariously, Pen puts Tiny TIM and PAT Boone at the top level, way above the BEATLES....!!
> Which of the Beatles has Tiny Tim's range, Which of the Beatles has an immediately recognizable voice like Pat Boone?

All of them, actually, even Ringo.

> Hell I can't tell one Beatle's voice from another's. Can you?

Absolutely:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCtzkaL2t_Y

On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 6:37:04 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 8:46:55 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 6:38:58 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > >
> > > > Zod Zodly wrote:
> > >
> > > >> On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 1:34:28 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > >>> On 2022-10-19 9:36 p.m., Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > "We know that The Beatles and myself rest on the "Decent" level.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Nelly Black is at least one level lower than The Beatles and me"
> > > >>> Good to see ace reporter "Edward Rochester Esq." is back, with another
> > > >>> fake story for NGBS.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> In fact, it was MMP who placed Will and the Beatles on the same level,
> > > >>> with Nelly Black lower down. He confirmed that.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> <quote>
> > > >>> On 2022-10-20 11:59 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > >>> > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:25:13 AM UTC-4,
> > > >>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > >>> >> Since you're here, Michael: do you remember the thread where you
> > > >>> >> favorably compared Will's music to the Beatles"?
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > No. I remember placing it on a level with that of the Beatles.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I.e., While I don't particularly care for either of their records, I
> > > >>> don't find their music offensive (to my eardrums, not my moral
> > > >>> sensibilities).
> > > >>> </quote>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> MMP's entitled to his opinion. Some people don't like the Beatles; hell,
> > > >>> some don't even like the Bells! There's no accounting for taste.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> What isn't fine is your pretending Will had made that comment, when he
> > > >>> was just repeating MMP's statement. You're lying, just for fun. I think
> > > >>> you should stop, for your own good.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Think about it: When you tell lies about Will that everyone knows are
> > > >>> lies, how do you expect any of them to believe you when they don't know?
> > > >>> Why should they take the word of a habitual liar?
> > >
> > > >> Of course never mind the clueless ignorance Pen shows when he declares the BEATLES to be merely "decent"...
> > >
> > > >> And no offense to Doc, I'm sure he is aware of the humor in such an absurd judgement from Pen..
> > >
> > >
> > > > No offense taken, Zod, Pendragon put me on the level of The Beatles, I'd never considered myself a peer of four of the most talented artists of all time.
> > >
> >
> > > Hilariously, Pen puts Tiny TIM and PAT Boone at the top level, way above the BEATLES....!!
> > Which of the Beatles has Tiny Tim's range, Which of the Beatles has an immediately recognizable voice like Pat Boone?
>
> All of them, actually, even Ringo.
>
> > Hell I can't tell one Beatle's voice from another's. Can you?
>
> Absolutely:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCtzkaL2t_Y

There is nothing distinctive about any of their voices in this video. They don't have good tonality, they can't sing close harmony very well, and they mostly stay within a three note range (with some false "Eee-hee"s tossed in at the end).

I remain unimpressed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n86dSssBSmA

On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 7:15:56 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 1:54:10 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:50:32 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> >> On 2022-10-22 10:03 a.m., NancyGene wrote:
> >> >> > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:51:34 AM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >
> >
> >> >> >>>>> postpoetry
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> although there's nothing left to say
> >> >> >>>>> we're gonna say it anyway
> >> >> >>>>> & if a reader doesn't read
> >> >> >>>>> we'll call him something we don't need
> >> >> >>>>> & if a critic calls it shit
> >> >> >>>>> we won't believe a word of it
> >> >> >>>>> & if a poet points that out
> >> >> >>>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
> >> >> >>>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
> >> >> >>>>> so we won't have to read her words
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> or better yet let's write of war
> >> >> >>>>> and fill a page or two with gore
> >> >> >>>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
> >> >> >>>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
> >> >> >>>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
> >> >> >>>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
> >> >> >>>>> motherfucker piss & shit
> >> >> >>>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> what else to do what else to say
> >> >> >>>>> when everything is mere cliche?
> >> >> >>>>> how else to make a reader feel
> >> >> >>>>> or think that what we say is real?
> >> >> >>>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
> >> >> >>>>> when we're as comfortably numb
> >> >> >>>>> but if we sweat through every motion
> >> >> >>>>> we may feel a real emotion –
> >> >> >>>>> at least it kills an hour or two
> >> >> >>>>> and we have nothing else to do.
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> ~~
> >> >> >>>>> George J. Dance, 2007
> >> >> >>>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> George Dance don't need no stinkin' commas.
> >> >> >> It isn't about what George Dance needs, "Professor"; it's about what the
> >> >> >> speaker of the poem needs.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The speaker in your poem is not "a muse."
> >> >> I never said he was. Where did you get the idea the speaker might be a
> >> >> muse?
> >> >> > If poetry is meant to be read aloud, how does your lack of punctuation help your poem?
> >> >> Use the line and stanza breaks. That's what they're there for.
> >> >> > You did not address the visual demand for six ampersands.
> >> >> It's just part of the style. "and" is replaced by &.
> >> >> > Does the speaker say "ampersand" in each line?
> >> >> No, "Professor,", an ampersand is pronounced "and." I can understand you
> >> >> not knowing that, but it's something you could have Googled.
> >> >> >> Let me quote (from memory) from Karla, another wannabe online poetry
> >> >> >> teacher we once had here:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Do not confuse the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem.."
> >> >> > That saying has been used too much here.
> >> >> Not enough, considering how many tend to forget it so often.
> >> >> > The poem still represents your attempt at creativity.
> >> >> Oh, good; you haven't started calling it "plagiarized" yet.
> >> > Should she have?
> >>
> >> That would be a typical NancyGene troll stunt, yes.
>
> > I didn't ask if she would have (in your paranoid opinion), but *should* she have.
>
> > George Dance is known (with or without justification) for
> That's just a smear from PJR, Pen, you know that....

That only accounts for one of the accusations.

Both Jim and I were victims of another form of literary theft when he refused to remove our poetry from his website and posted out of context quotes by us in his wiki.

Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:

> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 7:15:56 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 1:54:10 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:50:32 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> >> >> On 2022-10-22 10:03 a.m., NancyGene wrote:
>> >> >> > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:51:34 AM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> >> >>>>> postpoetry
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> although there's nothing left to say
>> >> >> >>>>> we're gonna say it anyway
>> >> >> >>>>> & if a reader doesn't read
>> >> >> >>>>> we'll call him something we don't need
>> >> >> >>>>> & if a critic calls it shit
>> >> >> >>>>> we won't believe a word of it
>> >> >> >>>>> & if a poet points that out
>> >> >> >>>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
>> >> >> >>>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
>> >> >> >>>>> so we won't have to read her words
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> or better yet let's write of war
>> >> >> >>>>> and fill a page or two with gore
>> >> >> >>>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
>> >> >> >>>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
>> >> >> >>>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
>> >> >> >>>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
>> >> >> >>>>> motherfucker piss & shit
>> >> >> >>>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> what else to do what else to say
>> >> >> >>>>> when everything is mere cliche?
>> >> >> >>>>> how else to make a reader feel
>> >> >> >>>>> or think that what we say is real?
>> >> >> >>>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
>> >> >> >>>>> when we're as comfortably numb
>> >> >> >>>>> but if we sweat through every motion
>> >> >> >>>>> we may feel a real emotion –
>> >> >> >>>>> at least it kills an hour or two
>> >> >> >>>>> and we have nothing else to do.
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> ~~
>> >> >> >>>>> George J. Dance, 2007
>> >> >> >>>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> George Dance don't need no stinkin' commas.
>> >> >> >> It isn't about what George Dance needs, "Professor"; it's about what the
>> >> >> >> speaker of the poem needs.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The speaker in your poem is not "a muse."
>> >> >> I never said he was. Where did you get the idea the speaker might be a
>> >> >> muse?
>> >> >> > If poetry is meant to be read aloud, how does your lack of punctuation help your poem?
>> >> >> Use the line and stanza breaks. That's what they're there for.
>> >> >> > You did not address the visual demand for six ampersands.
>> >> >> It's just part of the style. "and" is replaced by &.
>> >> >> > Does the speaker say "ampersand" in each line?
>> >> >> No, "Professor,", an ampersand is pronounced "and." I can understand you
>> >> >> not knowing that, but it's something you could have Googled.
>> >> >> >> Let me quote (from memory) from Karla, another wannabe online poetry
>> >> >> >> teacher we once had here:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Do not confuse the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem.."
>> >> >> > That saying has been used too much here.
>> >> >> Not enough, considering how many tend to forget it so often.
>> >> >> > The poem still represents your attempt at creativity.
>> >> >> Oh, good; you haven't started calling it "plagiarized" yet.
>> >> > Should she have?
>> >>
>> >> That would be a typical NancyGene troll stunt, yes.
>>
>> > I didn't ask if she would have (in your paranoid opinion), but *should* she have.
>>
>> > George Dance is known (with or without justification) for
>> That's just a smear from PJR, Pen, you know that....

> That only accounts for one of the accusations.

> Both Jim and I were victims of another form of literary theft when he refused to remove our poetry from his website and posted out of context quotes by us in his wiki.

You were both attributed, correct?

On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 7:15:59 PM UTC-4, cocodeso...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 6:37:04 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 8:46:55 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 6:38:58 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > > > Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Zod Zodly wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >> On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 1:34:28 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > >>> On 2022-10-19 9:36 p.m., Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> > "We know that The Beatles and myself rest on the "Decent" level.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Nelly Black is at least one level lower than The Beatles and me"
> > > > >>> Good to see ace reporter "Edward Rochester Esq." is back, with another
> > > > >>> fake story for NGBS.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> In fact, it was MMP who placed Will and the Beatles on the same level,
> > > > >>> with Nelly Black lower down. He confirmed that.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> <quote>
> > > > >>> On 2022-10-20 11:59 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > >>> > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:25:13 AM UTC-4,
> > > > >>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > >>> >> Since you're here, Michael: do you remember the thread where you
> > > > >>> >> favorably compared Will's music to the Beatles"?
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > No. I remember placing it on a level with that of the Beatles.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I.e., While I don't particularly care for either of their records, I
> > > > >>> don't find their music offensive (to my eardrums, not my moral
> > > > >>> sensibilities).
> > > > >>> </quote>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> MMP's entitled to his opinion. Some people don't like the Beatles; hell,
> > > > >>> some don't even like the Bells! There's no accounting for taste.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> What isn't fine is your pretending Will had made that comment, when he
> > > > >>> was just repeating MMP's statement. You're lying, just for fun. I think
> > > > >>> you should stop, for your own good.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Think about it: When you tell lies about Will that everyone knows are
> > > > >>> lies, how do you expect any of them to believe you when they don't know?
> > > > >>> Why should they take the word of a habitual liar?
> > > >
> > > > >> Of course never mind the clueless ignorance Pen shows when he declares the BEATLES to be merely "decent"...
> > > >
> > > > >> And no offense to Doc, I'm sure he is aware of the humor in such an absurd judgement from Pen..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > No offense taken, Zod, Pendragon put me on the level of The Beatles, I'd never considered myself a peer of four of the most talented artists of all time.
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Hilariously, Pen puts Tiny TIM and PAT Boone at the top level, way above the BEATLES....!!
> > > Which of the Beatles has Tiny Tim's range, Which of the Beatles has an immediately recognizable voice like Pat Boone?
> >
> > All of them, actually, even Ringo.
> >
> > > Hell I can't tell one Beatle's voice from another's. Can you?
> >
> > Absolutely:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCtzkaL2t_Y
> There is nothing distinctive about any of their voices in this video. They don't have good tonality, they can't sing close harmony very well, and they mostly stay within a three note range (with some false "Eee-hee"s tossed in at the end).
>
> I remain unimpressed.

Of course, you've been unimpressed your entire life, why would you suddenly change now?

>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n86dSssBSmA

On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 12:29:49 AM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > Zod Zodly wrote:
>
> >> On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 1:34:28 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>> On 2022-10-19 9:36 p.m., Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> >
> >>>>> > "We know that The Beatles and myself rest on the "Decent" level.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Nelly Black is at least one level lower than The Beatles and me"
> >>>>> Good to see ace reporter "Edward Rochester Esq." is back, with another
> >>>>> fake story for NGBS.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In fact, it was MMP who placed Will and the Beatles on the same level,
> >>>>> with Nelly Black lower down. He confirmed that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <quote>
> >>>>> On 2022-10-20 11:59 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>>>> > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:25:13 AM UTC-4,
> >>>>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>>> >> Since you're here, Michael: do you remember the thread where you
> >>>>> >> favorably compared Will's music to the Beatles"?
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > No. I remember placing it on a level with that of the Beatles.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > I.e., While I don't particularly care for either of their records, I
> >>>>> don't find their music offensive (to my eardrums, not my moral
> >>>>> sensibilities).
> >>>>> </quote>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> MMP's entitled to his opinion. Some people don't like the Beatles; hell,
> >>>>> some don't even like the Bells! There's no accounting for taste.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What isn't fine is your pretending Will had made that comment, when he
> >>>>> was just repeating MMP's statement. You're lying, just for fun. I think
> >>>>> you should stop, for your own good.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Think about it: When you tell lies about Will that everyone knows are
> >>>>> lies, how do you expect any of them to believe you when they don't know?
> >>>>> Why should they take the word of a habitual liar?
>
> >>>> Of course never mind the clueless ignorance Pen shows when he declares the BEATLES to be merely "decent"...
>
> >>>> And no offense to Doc, I'm sure he is aware of the humor in such an absurd judgement from Pen..
>
>
> >>> No offense taken, Zod, Pendragon put me on the level of The Beatles, I'd never considered myself a peer of four of the most talented artists of all time.
>
> >>> 🙂
>
> >> Hilariously, Pen puts Tiny TIM and PAT Boone at the top level, way above the BEATLES....!!
>
> > Pendragon also thinks he's a better poet than T.S. Eliot, so he obviously sees things differently than "most people".
> Pat Boone and Tiny Tim as on a far lower level than the BEATLES, as most people know...

Pat Boone was the second highest charting singer of the early r'n'r era (the late 50s). He was also the first white solo artist to chard with a r'n'r song (6 months before Elvis). Both his popularity and historical significance are secured... much like your appalling cultural ignorance.

> The Beatles - Hey Jude
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_MjCqQoLLA

A really putrid song.

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 12:29:49 AM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>> > Zod Zodly wrote:
>>
>> >> On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 1:34:28 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> >>> On 2022-10-19 9:36 p.m., Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
>> >
>> >>>>> > "We know that The Beatles and myself rest on the "Decent" level.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > Nelly Black is at least one level lower than The Beatles and me"
>> >>>>> Good to see ace reporter "Edward Rochester Esq." is back, with another
>> >>>>> fake story for NGBS.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> In fact, it was MMP who placed Will and the Beatles on the same level,
>> >>>>> with Nelly Black lower down. He confirmed that.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> <quote>
>> >>>>> On 2022-10-20 11:59 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >>>>> > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:25:13 AM UTC-4,
>> >>>>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> >>>>> >> Since you're here, Michael: do you remember the thread where you
>> >>>>> >> favorably compared Will's music to the Beatles"?
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > No. I remember placing it on a level with that of the Beatles.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > I.e., While I don't particularly care for either of their records, I
>> >>>>> don't find their music offensive (to my eardrums, not my moral
>> >>>>> sensibilities).
>> >>>>> </quote>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> MMP's entitled to his opinion. Some people don't like the Beatles; hell,
>> >>>>> some don't even like the Bells! There's no accounting for taste.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> What isn't fine is your pretending Will had made that comment, when he
>> >>>>> was just repeating MMP's statement. You're lying, just for fun. I think
>> >>>>> you should stop, for your own good.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Think about it: When you tell lies about Will that everyone knows are
>> >>>>> lies, how do you expect any of them to believe you when they don't know?
>> >>>>> Why should they take the word of a habitual liar?
>>
>> >>>> Of course never mind the clueless ignorance Pen shows when he declares the BEATLES to be merely "decent"...
>>
>> >>>> And no offense to Doc, I'm sure he is aware of the humor in such an absurd judgement from Pen..
>>
>>
>> >>> No offense taken, Zod, Pendragon put me on the level of The Beatles, I'd never considered myself a peer of four of the most talented artists of all time.
>>
>> >>> 🙂
>>
>> >> Hilariously, Pen puts Tiny TIM and PAT Boone at the top level, way above the BEATLES....!!
>>
>> > Pendragon also thinks he's a better poet than T.S. Eliot, so he obviously sees things differently than "most people".
>> Pat Boone and Tiny Tim as on a far lower level than the BEATLES, as most people know...

> Pat Boone was the second highest charting singer of the early r'n'r era (the late 50s). He was also the first white solo artist to chard with a r'n'r song (6 months before Elvis)

Pat Boone was knocked off the charts permanently by the ty The Beatles arrived.

>> The Beatles - Hey Jude
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_MjCqQoLLA

> A really putrid song.

That's Pat Boone's genre.

🙂

On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 1:13:31 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 12:29:49 AM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> >>
> >> > Zod Zodly wrote:
> >>
> >> >> On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 1:34:28 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> >>> On 2022-10-19 9:36 p.m., Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>>>> > "We know that The Beatles and myself rest on the "Decent" level.
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > Nelly Black is at least one level lower than The Beatles and me"
> >> >>>>> Good to see ace reporter "Edward Rochester Esq." is back, with another
> >> >>>>> fake story for NGBS.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> In fact, it was MMP who placed Will and the Beatles on the same level,
> >> >>>>> with Nelly Black lower down. He confirmed that.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> <quote>
> >> >>>>> On 2022-10-20 11:59 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >> >>>>> > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:25:13 AM UTC-4,
> >> >>>>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> >>>>> >> Since you're here, Michael: do you remember the thread where you
> >> >>>>> >> favorably compared Will's music to the Beatles"?
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > No. I remember placing it on a level with that of the Beatles.
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > I.e., While I don't particularly care for either of their records, I
> >> >>>>> don't find their music offensive (to my eardrums, not my moral
> >> >>>>> sensibilities).
> >> >>>>> </quote>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> MMP's entitled to his opinion. Some people don't like the Beatles; hell,
> >> >>>>> some don't even like the Bells! There's no accounting for taste.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> What isn't fine is your pretending Will had made that comment, when he
> >> >>>>> was just repeating MMP's statement. You're lying, just for fun. I think
> >> >>>>> you should stop, for your own good.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Think about it: When you tell lies about Will that everyone knows are
> >> >>>>> lies, how do you expect any of them to believe you when they don't know?
> >> >>>>> Why should they take the word of a habitual liar?
> >>
> >> >>>> Of course never mind the clueless ignorance Pen shows when he declares the BEATLES to be merely "decent"...
> >>
> >> >>>> And no offense to Doc, I'm sure he is aware of the humor in such an absurd judgement from Pen..
> >>
> >>
> >> >>> No offense taken, Zod, Pendragon put me on the level of The Beatles, I'd never considered myself a peer of four of the most talented artists of all time.
> >>
> >> >>> 🙂
> >>
> >> >> Hilariously, Pen puts Tiny TIM and PAT Boone at the top level, way above the BEATLES....!!
> >>
> >> > Pendragon also thinks he's a better poet than T.S. Eliot, so he obviously sees things differently than "most people".
> >> Pat Boone and Tiny Tim as on a far lower level than the BEATLES, as most people know...
>
> > Pat Boone was the second highest charting singer of the early r'n'r era (the late 50s). He was also the first white solo artist to chard with a r'n'r song (6 months before Elvis)
> Pat Boone was knocked off the charts permanently by the ty The Beatles arrived.
> >> The Beatles - Hey Jude
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_MjCqQoLLA
>
> > A really putrid song.
> That's Pat Boone's genre.

"Putrid" isn't a genre, Donkey... your own "poetry" notwithstanding.

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 1:13:31 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>
>> > On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 12:29:49 AM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
>> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Zod Zodly wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 1:34:28 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> >> >>> On 2022-10-19 9:36 p.m., Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>>>> > "We know that The Beatles and myself rest on the "Decent" level.
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> > Nelly Black is at least one level lower than The Beatles and me"
>> >> >>>>> Good to see ace reporter "Edward Rochester Esq." is back, with another
>> >> >>>>> fake story for NGBS.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> In fact, it was MMP who placed Will and the Beatles on the same level,
>> >> >>>>> with Nelly Black lower down. He confirmed that.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> <quote>
>> >> >>>>> On 2022-10-20 11:59 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> >>>>> > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:25:13 AM UTC-4,
>> >> >>>>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> >> >>>>> >> Since you're here, Michael: do you remember the thread where you
>> >> >>>>> >> favorably compared Will's music to the Beatles"?
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> > No. I remember placing it on a level with that of the Beatles.
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> > I.e., While I don't particularly care for either of their records, I
>> >> >>>>> don't find their music offensive (to my eardrums, not my moral
>> >> >>>>> sensibilities).
>> >> >>>>> </quote>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> MMP's entitled to his opinion. Some people don't like the Beatles; hell,
>> >> >>>>> some don't even like the Bells! There's no accounting for taste.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> What isn't fine is your pretending Will had made that comment, when he
>> >> >>>>> was just repeating MMP's statement. You're lying, just for fun. I think
>> >> >>>>> you should stop, for your own good.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Think about it: When you tell lies about Will that everyone knows are
>> >> >>>>> lies, how do you expect any of them to believe you when they don't know?
>> >> >>>>> Why should they take the word of a habitual liar?
>> >>
>> >> >>>> Of course never mind the clueless ignorance Pen shows when he declares the BEATLES to be merely "decent"...
>> >>
>> >> >>>> And no offense to Doc, I'm sure he is aware of the humor in such an absurd judgement from Pen..
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >>> No offense taken, Zod, Pendragon put me on the level of The Beatles, I'd never considered myself a peer of four of the most talented artists of all time.
>> >>
>> >> >>> 🙂
>> >>
>> >> >> Hilariously, Pen puts Tiny TIM and PAT Boone at the top level, way above the BEATLES....!!
>> >>
>> >> > Pendragon also thinks he's a better poet than T.S. Eliot, so he obviously sees things differently than "most people".
>> >> Pat Boone and Tiny Tim as on a far lower level than the BEATLES, as most people know...
>>
>> > Pat Boone was the second highest charting singer of the early r'n'r era (the late 50s). He was also the first white solo artist to chard with a r'n'r song (6 months before Elvis)
>> Pat Boone was knocked off the charts permanently by the ty The Beatles arrived.
>> >> The Beatles - Hey Jude
>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_MjCqQoLLA
>>
>> > A really putrid song.
>> That's Pat Boone's genre.

> "Putrid" isn't a genre

It is for Pat Boone's sappy sounds.

HTH and HAND.

General-Zod wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:

>> Zod Zodly wrote:

>>> On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 1:34:28 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>> On 2022-10-19 9:36 p.m., Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
>>
>>>>>> > "We know that The Beatles and myself rest on the "Decent" level.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Nelly Black is at least one level lower than The Beatles and me"
>>>>>> Good to see ace reporter "Edward Rochester Esq." is back, with another
>>>>>> fake story for NGBS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In fact, it was MMP who placed Will and the Beatles on the same level,
>>>>>> with Nelly Black lower down. He confirmed that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>> On 2022-10-20 11:59 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>>>>> > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:25:13 AM UTC-4,
>>>>>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>>>>> >> Since you're here, Michael: do you remember the thread where you
>>>>>> >> favorably compared Will's music to the Beatles"?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > No. I remember placing it on a level with that of the Beatles.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I.e., While I don't particularly care for either of their records, I
>>>>>> don't find their music offensive (to my eardrums, not my moral
>>>>>> sensibilities).
>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MMP's entitled to his opinion. Some people don't like the Beatles; hell,
>>>>>> some don't even like the Bells! There's no accounting for taste.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What isn't fine is your pretending Will had made that comment, when he
>>>>>> was just repeating MMP's statement. You're lying, just for fun. I think
>>>>>> you should stop, for your own good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Think about it: When you tell lies about Will that everyone knows are
>>>>>> lies, how do you expect any of them to believe you when they don't know?
>>>>>> Why should they take the word of a habitual liar?

>>>>> Of course never mind the clueless ignorance Pen shows when he declares the BEATLES to be merely "decent"...

>>>>> And no offense to Doc, I'm sure he is aware of the humor in such an absurd judgement from Pen..

>>>> No offense taken, Zod, Pendragon put me on the level of The Beatles, I'd never considered myself a peer of four of the most talented artists of all time.

>>>> 🙂

>>> Hilariously, Pen puts Tiny TIM and PAT Boone at the top level, way above the BEATLES....!!

>> Pendragon also thinks he's a better poet than T.S. Eliot, so he obviously sees things differently than "most people".

> Pat Boone and Tiny Tim as on a far lower level than the BEATLES, as most people know...
> The Beatles - Hey Jude
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_MjCqQoLLA

Tiny Tim and Pat Boone aren't even close.

On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 7:16:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 1:54:10 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:50:32 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> >> On 2022-10-22 10:03 a.m., NancyGene wrote:
> >> >> > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:51:34 AM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >
> >> >> >>>>> postpoetry
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> although there's nothing left to say
> >> >> >>>>> we're gonna say it anyway
> >> >> >>>>> & if a reader doesn't read
> >> >> >>>>> we'll call him something we don't need
> >> >> >>>>> & if a critic calls it shit
> >> >> >>>>> we won't believe a word of it
> >> >> >>>>> & if a poet points that out
> >> >> >>>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
> >> >> >>>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
> >> >> >>>>> so we won't have to read her words
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> or better yet let's write of war
> >> >> >>>>> and fill a page or two with gore
> >> >> >>>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
> >> >> >>>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
> >> >> >>>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
> >> >> >>>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
> >> >> >>>>> motherfucker piss & shit
> >> >> >>>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> what else to do what else to say
> >> >> >>>>> when everything is mere cliche?
> >> >> >>>>> how else to make a reader feel
> >> >> >>>>> or think that what we say is real?
> >> >> >>>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
> >> >> >>>>> when we're as comfortably numb
> >> >> >>>>> but if we sweat through every motion
> >> >> >>>>> we may feel a real emotion –
> >> >> >>>>> at least it kills an hour or two
> >> >> >>>>> and we have nothing else to do.
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> ~~
> >> >> >>>>> George J. Dance, 2007
> >> >> >>>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> George Dance don't need no stinkin' commas.
> >> >> >> It isn't about what George Dance needs, "Professor"; it's about what the
> >> >> >> speaker of the poem needs.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The speaker in your poem is not "a muse."
> >> >> I never said he was. Where did you get the idea the speaker might be a
> >> >> muse?
> >> >> > If poetry is meant to be read aloud, how does your lack of punctuation help your poem?
> >> >> Use the line and stanza breaks. That's what they're there for.
> >> >> > You did not address the visual demand for six ampersands.
> >> >> It's just part of the style. "and" is replaced by &.
> >> >> > Does the speaker say "ampersand" in each line?
> >> >> No, "Professor,", an ampersand is pronounced "and." I can understand you
> >> >> not knowing that, but it's something you could have Googled.
> >> >> >> Let me quote (from memory) from Karla, another wannabe online poetry
> >> >> >> teacher we once had here:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Do not confuse the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem.."
> >> >> > That saying has been used too much here.
> >> >> Not enough, considering how many tend to forget it so often.
> >> >> > The poem still represents your attempt at creativity.
> >> >> Oh, good; you haven't started calling it "plagiarized" yet.
> >> > Should she have?
> >>
> >> That would be a typical NancyGene troll stunt, yes.
>
> > I didn't ask if she would have (in your paranoid opinion), but *should* she have.
>
> > George Dance is known (with or without justification) for being a plagiarist
> Accused by trolls but this has never been proven, as you know.

A troll throwing the troll label around-- how morbidly amusing. You fit your own definition of troll, you know.

On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 7:15:56 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 1:54:10 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:50:32 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> >> On 2022-10-22 10:03 a.m., NancyGene wrote:
> >> >> > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:51:34 AM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >
> >
> >> >> >>>>> postpoetry
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> although there's nothing left to say
> >> >> >>>>> we're gonna say it anyway
> >> >> >>>>> & if a reader doesn't read
> >> >> >>>>> we'll call him something we don't need
> >> >> >>>>> & if a critic calls it shit
> >> >> >>>>> we won't believe a word of it
> >> >> >>>>> & if a poet points that out
> >> >> >>>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
> >> >> >>>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
> >> >> >>>>> so we won't have to read her words
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> or better yet let's write of war
> >> >> >>>>> and fill a page or two with gore
> >> >> >>>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
> >> >> >>>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
> >> >> >>>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
> >> >> >>>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
> >> >> >>>>> motherfucker piss & shit
> >> >> >>>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> what else to do what else to say
> >> >> >>>>> when everything is mere cliche?
> >> >> >>>>> how else to make a reader feel
> >> >> >>>>> or think that what we say is real?
> >> >> >>>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
> >> >> >>>>> when we're as comfortably numb
> >> >> >>>>> but if we sweat through every motion
> >> >> >>>>> we may feel a real emotion –
> >> >> >>>>> at least it kills an hour or two
> >> >> >>>>> and we have nothing else to do.
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> ~~
> >> >> >>>>> George J. Dance, 2007
> >> >> >>>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> George Dance don't need no stinkin' commas.
> >> >> >> It isn't about what George Dance needs, "Professor"; it's about what the
> >> >> >> speaker of the poem needs.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The speaker in your poem is not "a muse."
> >> >> I never said he was. Where did you get the idea the speaker might be a
> >> >> muse?
> >> >> > If poetry is meant to be read aloud, how does your lack of punctuation help your poem?
> >> >> Use the line and stanza breaks. That's what they're there for.
> >> >> > You did not address the visual demand for six ampersands.
> >> >> It's just part of the style. "and" is replaced by &.
> >> >> > Does the speaker say "ampersand" in each line?
> >> >> No, "Professor,", an ampersand is pronounced "and." I can understand you
> >> >> not knowing that, but it's something you could have Googled.
> >> >> >> Let me quote (from memory) from Karla, another wannabe online poetry
> >> >> >> teacher we once had here:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Do not confuse the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem.."
> >> >> > That saying has been used too much here.
> >> >> Not enough, considering how many tend to forget it so often.
> >> >> > The poem still represents your attempt at creativity.
> >> >> Oh, good; you haven't started calling it "plagiarized" yet.
> >> > Should she have?
> >>
> >> That would be a typical NancyGene troll stunt, yes.
>
> > I didn't ask if she would have (in your paranoid opinion), but *should* she have.
>
> > George Dance is known (with or without justification) for
> That's just a smear from PJR, Pen, you know that....

How interestingly hypocritical, Zod slams PJR but in the past he has pined for his return...

Zod
Jul 15, 2022, 3:30:16 PM
"Good ole Peter, he is missed...."
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/5LAoaQn7dmU/m/Du0d3rJ4AAAJ

On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 10:15:21 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> General-Zod wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
>
> >> Zod Zodly wrote:
>
> >>> On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 1:34:28 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-10-19 9:36 p.m., Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>> > "We know that The Beatles and myself rest on the "Decent" level.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Nelly Black is at least one level lower than The Beatles and me"
> >>>>>> Good to see ace reporter "Edward Rochester Esq." is back, with another
> >>>>>> fake story for NGBS.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In fact, it was MMP who placed Will and the Beatles on the same level,
> >>>>>> with Nelly Black lower down. He confirmed that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <quote>
> >>>>>> On 2022-10-20 11:59 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>>>>> > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:25:13 AM UTC-4,
> >>>>>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>>>> >> Since you're here, Michael: do you remember the thread where you
> >>>>>> >> favorably compared Will's music to the Beatles"?
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > No. I remember placing it on a level with that of the Beatles.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > I.e., While I don't particularly care for either of their records, I
> >>>>>> don't find their music offensive (to my eardrums, not my moral
> >>>>>> sensibilities).
> >>>>>> </quote>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> MMP's entitled to his opinion. Some people don't like the Beatles; hell,
> >>>>>> some don't even like the Bells! There's no accounting for taste.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What isn't fine is your pretending Will had made that comment, when he
> >>>>>> was just repeating MMP's statement. You're lying, just for fun. I think
> >>>>>> you should stop, for your own good.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Think about it: When you tell lies about Will that everyone knows are
> >>>>>> lies, how do you expect any of them to believe you when they don't know?
> >>>>>> Why should they take the word of a habitual liar?
>
> >>>>> Of course never mind the clueless ignorance Pen shows when he declares the BEATLES to be merely "decent"...
>
> >>>>> And no offense to Doc, I'm sure he is aware of the humor in such an absurd judgement from Pen..
>
>
> >>>> No offense taken, Zod, Pendragon put me on the level of The Beatles, I'd never considered myself a peer of four of the most talented artists of all time.
>
> >>>> 🙂
>
> >>> Hilariously, Pen puts Tiny TIM and PAT Boone at the top level, way above the BEATLES....!!
>
> >> Pendragon also thinks he's a better poet than T.S. Eliot, so he obviously sees things differently than "most people".
>
> > Pat Boone and Tiny Tim as on a far lower level than the BEATLES, as most people know...
> > The Beatles - Hey Jude
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_MjCqQoLLA
> Tiny Tim and Pat Boone aren't even close.

Again, we are talking solely in terms of vocal ability, Donkey.

The Beatles were a historically significant group. Their vocal talents, otoh, left much to be desired.

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 10:15:21 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> General-Zod wrote:
>> > Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>> >> Zod Zodly wrote:
>>
>> >>> On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 1:34:28 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> >>>> On 2022-10-19 9:36 p.m., Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>>>> > "We know that The Beatles and myself rest on the "Decent" level.
>> >>>>>> >
>> >>>>>> > Nelly Black is at least one level lower than The Beatles and me"
>> >>>>>> Good to see ace reporter "Edward Rochester Esq." is back, with another
>> >>>>>> fake story for NGBS.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> In fact, it was MMP who placed Will and the Beatles on the same level,
>> >>>>>> with Nelly Black lower down. He confirmed that.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> <quote>
>> >>>>>> On 2022-10-20 11:59 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >>>>>> > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:25:13 AM UTC-4,
>> >>>>>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> >>>>>> >> Since you're here, Michael: do you remember the thread where you
>> >>>>>> >> favorably compared Will's music to the Beatles"?
>> >>>>>> >
>> >>>>>> > No. I remember placing it on a level with that of the Beatles.
>> >>>>>> >
>> >>>>>> > I.e., While I don't particularly care for either of their records, I
>> >>>>>> don't find their music offensive (to my eardrums, not my moral
>> >>>>>> sensibilities).
>> >>>>>> </quote>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> MMP's entitled to his opinion. Some people don't like the Beatles; hell,
>> >>>>>> some don't even like the Bells! There's no accounting for taste.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> What isn't fine is your pretending Will had made that comment, when he
>> >>>>>> was just repeating MMP's statement. You're lying, just for fun. I think
>> >>>>>> you should stop, for your own good.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Think about it: When you tell lies about Will that everyone knows are
>> >>>>>> lies, how do you expect any of them to believe you when they don't know?
>> >>>>>> Why should they take the word of a habitual liar?
>>
>> >>>>> Of course never mind the clueless ignorance Pen shows when he declares the BEATLES to be merely "decent"...
>>
>> >>>>> And no offense to Doc, I'm sure he is aware of the humor in such an absurd judgement from Pen..
>>
>>
>> >>>> No offense taken, Zod, Pendragon put me on the level of The Beatles, I'd never considered myself a peer of four of the most talented artists of all time.
>>
>> >>>> 🙂
>>
>> >>> Hilariously, Pen puts Tiny TIM and PAT Boone at the top level, way above the BEATLES....!!
>>
>> >> Pendragon also thinks he's a better poet than T.S. Eliot, so he obviously sees things differently than "most people".
>>
>> > Pat Boone and Tiny Tim as on a far lower level than the BEATLES, as most people know...
>> > The Beatles - Hey Jude
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_MjCqQoLLA
>> Tiny Tim and Pat Boone aren't even close.

> Again, we are talking solely in terms of vocal ability

Okay.

On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 10:15:21 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> General-Zod wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
>
> >> Zod Zodly wrote:
>
> >>> On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 1:34:28 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>> On 2022-10-19 9:36 p.m., Edward Rochester Esq. wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>> > "We know that The Beatles and myself rest on the "Decent" level.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Nelly Black is at least one level lower than The Beatles and me"
> >>>>>> Good to see ace reporter "Edward Rochester Esq." is back, with another
> >>>>>> fake story for NGBS.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In fact, it was MMP who placed Will and the Beatles on the same level,
> >>>>>> with Nelly Black lower down. He confirmed that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <quote>
> >>>>>> On 2022-10-20 11:59 a.m., Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >>>>>> > On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 11:25:13 AM UTC-4,
> >>>>>> george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >>>>>> >> Since you're here, Michael: do you remember the thread where you
> >>>>>> >> favorably compared Will's music to the Beatles"?
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > No. I remember placing it on a level with that of the Beatles.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > I.e., While I don't particularly care for either of their records, I
> >>>>>> don't find their music offensive (to my eardrums, not my moral
> >>>>>> sensibilities).
> >>>>>> </quote>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> MMP's entitled to his opinion. Some people don't like the Beatles; hell,
> >>>>>> some don't even like the Bells! There's no accounting for taste.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What isn't fine is your pretending Will had made that comment, when he
> >>>>>> was just repeating MMP's statement. You're lying, just for fun. I think
> >>>>>> you should stop, for your own good.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Think about it: When you tell lies about Will that everyone knows are
> >>>>>> lies, how do you expect any of them to believe you when they don't know?
> >>>>>> Why should they take the word of a habitual liar?
>
> >>>>> Of course never mind the clueless ignorance Pen shows when he declares the BEATLES to be merely "decent"...
>
> >>>>> And no offense to Doc, I'm sure he is aware of the humor in such an absurd judgement from Pen..
>
>
> >>>> No offense taken, Zod, Pendragon put me on the level of The Beatles, I'd never considered myself a peer of four of the most talented artists of all time.
>
> >>>> 🙂
>
> >>> Hilariously, Pen puts Tiny TIM and PAT Boone at the top level, way above the BEATLES....!!
>
> >> Pendragon also thinks he's a better poet than T.S. Eliot, so he obviously sees things differently than "most people".
>
> > Pat Boone and Tiny Tim as on a far lower level than the BEATLES, as most people know...
> > The Beatles - Hey Jude
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_MjCqQoLLA
> Tiny Tim and Pat Boone aren't even close.

Will is such a LAMenet loser! He'll at least be significant on LAMenet, but not for his singing or poetry.

Patrick Charles Eugene Boone[1] (born June 1, 1934) is an American singer and actor. He was a successful pop singer in the United States during the 1950s and early 1960s. He sold more than 45 million records, had 38 Top 40 hits, and appeared in more than 12 Hollywood films.

According to Billboard, Boone was the second-biggest charting artist of the late 1950s, behind only Elvis Presley, and was ranked at No. 9 in its listing of the Top 100 Top 40 Artists 1955–1995.[2] Until the 2010s, Boone held the Billboard record for spending 220 consecutive weeks on the charts with one or more songs each week.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Boone

On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 8:58:06 AM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 7:15:56 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote:
> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 1:54:10 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:50:32 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo..ca wrote:
> > >> >> On 2022-10-22 10:03 a.m., NancyGene wrote:
> > >> >> > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:51:34 AM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> >> >>>>> postpoetry
> > >> >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>> although there's nothing left to say
> > >> >> >>>>> we're gonna say it anyway
> > >> >> >>>>> & if a reader doesn't read
> > >> >> >>>>> we'll call him something we don't need
> > >> >> >>>>> & if a critic calls it shit
> > >> >> >>>>> we won't believe a word of it
> > >> >> >>>>> & if a poet points that out
> > >> >> >>>>> we'll just ignore it & we'll shout
> > >> >> >>>>> about her frogs and trees and birds
> > >> >> >>>>> so we won't have to read her words
> > >> >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>> or better yet let's write of war
> > >> >> >>>>> and fill a page or two with gore
> > >> >> >>>>> some reeking flesh a severed head
> > >> >> >>>>> & maggots feasting on the dead
> > >> >> >>>>> & if perchance that doesn't shock
> > >> >> >>>>> let's add a line of fuck ass cock
> > >> >> >>>>> motherfucker piss & shit
> > >> >> >>>>> (who knows that just might pass for wit)
> > >> >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>> what else to do what else to say
> > >> >> >>>>> when everything is mere cliche?
> > >> >> >>>>> how else to make a reader feel
> > >> >> >>>>> or think that what we say is real?
> > >> >> >>>>> of course the whole idea is dumb
> > >> >> >>>>> when we're as comfortably numb
> > >> >> >>>>> but if we sweat through every motion
> > >> >> >>>>> we may feel a real emotion –
> > >> >> >>>>> at least it kills an hour or two
> > >> >> >>>>> and we have nothing else to do.
> > >> >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>> ~~
> > >> >> >>>>> George J. Dance, 2007
> > >> >> >>>>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> George Dance don't need no stinkin' commas.
> > >> >> >> It isn't about what George Dance needs, "Professor"; it's about what the
> > >> >> >> speaker of the poem needs.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > The speaker in your poem is not "a muse."
> > >> >> I never said he was. Where did you get the idea the speaker might be a
> > >> >> muse?
> > >> >> > If poetry is meant to be read aloud, how does your lack of punctuation help your poem?
> > >> >> Use the line and stanza breaks. That's what they're there for.
> > >> >> > You did not address the visual demand for six ampersands.
> > >> >> It's just part of the style. "and" is replaced by &.
> > >> >> > Does the speaker say "ampersand" in each line?
> > >> >> No, "Professor,", an ampersand is pronounced "and." I can understand you
> > >> >> not knowing that, but it's something you could have Googled.
> > >> >> >> Let me quote (from memory) from Karla, another wannabe online poetry
> > >> >> >> teacher we once had here:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> "Do not confuse the speaker of the poem with the writer of the poem.."
> > >> >> > That saying has been used too much here.
> > >> >> Not enough, considering how many tend to forget it so often.
> > >> >> > The poem still represents your attempt at creativity.
> > >> >> Oh, good; you haven't started calling it "plagiarized" yet.
> > >> > Should she have?
> > >>
> > >> That would be a typical NancyGene troll stunt, yes.
> >
> > > I didn't ask if she would have (in your paranoid opinion), but *should* she have.
> >
> > > George Dance is known (with or without justification) for
> > That's just a smear from PJR, Pen, you know that....
> How interestingly hypocritical, Zod slams PJR but in the past he has pined for his return...
>
> Zod
> Jul 15, 2022, 3:30:16 PM
> "Good ole Peter, he is missed...."
> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/5LAoaQn7dmU/m/Du0d3rJ4AAAJ

Sarcasm, Ash.

Look it up.

🙂