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* My Father's House / George J. DanceGeorge J. Dance
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 by: Robert Burrows - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 09:39 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 4:33:25 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Robert Burrows wrote:
>
> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 10:19:29 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> On 2022-12-02 3:58 p.m., Zod wrote:
> >> > [...]
> >> >
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Robert's friend met him, was(is?) living in his house, and owns an unpublished manuscript by Kerouac.
> >> >
> >> >> The person in question is a very private person who wouldn't be happy knowing that I mentioned anything about him in this forum. I'll tell you that I met him at a record show in 1986 and that he approached me about taping the copy of the 10 disc vinyl Dylan bootleg called Ten Of Swords. He has a mind-boggling record collection, and it's because of him that my musical world encompasses everyone from Benny Goodman to Albert Ayler, Dean Martin to Tuvan Throat Singers. I owe him a lot.
> >> >
> >> > Cool.... which "unpublished" Jack Kerouac manuscript does he have.....?
> >> >
> >> > What did he learn about Kerouac when they were friends that we don't know from the massive amoun of autobiographical information on J.K. that we already have...?
> >> Wdll, you'll learn that everything in the books is wrong. For example,
> >> books will tell you that Kerouac turned to heavy drinking after /OTR/
> >> because he lost his privacy. It's only Bobby Burro's "friend" who'll let
> >> you know the real reason: that "Discovering that his most well known
> >> book spawned acolytes like you and Zod is the main reason why Jack
> >> Kerouac drank himself to death." (Yes, the "friend" specifically
> >> mentioned you and Will.) That's something you'll never read in a book,
> >> at least as long as the "unpublished manuscript"
>
> > I'm seriously thinking about visiting a friend in Kingston, Ontario sometime in early January 2023, George, perhaps we can discuss it then, face to face, man to man.
> Great, hopefully George Dance will ask you for details on the allegedly unpublished Jack Kerouac manuscript, Robert.

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 by: W.Dockery - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 09:44 UTC

Spam-I-Am wrote:

> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:26:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:58:02 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:44:18 AM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:20:17 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 3:49:07 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Father's House
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my father's house, although
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The man died thirteen years ago.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They said it would be quite all right
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take a drive to see it now.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dad laid those grey foundation blocks
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And built the whole thing (from a box),
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toiling after each full day's work.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I helped, though I was only six.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, here's the back door I would use
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here's where I'd remove my shoes
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To enter; there I'd leave my things
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, when allowed, climb up these stairs.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this room I'd wash many a dish,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaze out this window, and I'd wish
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be so many other places.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Wishy-washy? Oh, I guess!)
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outside, the garden that he grew
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I would work the summers through,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While watching my friends run and play
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mysterious games I never knew.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That room's all changed; oh, where is it,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one chair I was let to sit?
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (For boys can be such filthy things.)
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which, the corner where boys were put?
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh ... down that hall there is a room
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I'd be shut (as in a tomb)
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After the meal, to make no noise,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To read or play alone, and then
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lights out: in bed by nine each night,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face and pyjama bottoms down
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for my father's belt I'd wait.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, if I were a millionaire
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd buy my father's house, and there
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd build a bonfire, oh so high
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its flames would light up all the air.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~~
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George J. Dance
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Logos and other logoi, 2021
>> > [...]
>> > > > > > > > > > > Robert's friend met him, was(is?) living in his house, and owns an unpublished manuscript by Kerouac.
>> > > The person in question is a very private person who wouldn't be happy knowing that I mentioned anything about him in this forum. I'll tell you that I met him at a record show in 1986 and that he approached me about taping the copy of the 10 disc vinyl Dylan bootleg called Ten Of Swords. He has a mind-boggling record collection, and it's because of him that my musical world encompasses everyone from Benny Goodman to Albert Ayler, Dean Martin to Tuvan Throat Singers. I owe him a lot.
>> > Cool.... which "unpublished" Jack Kerouac manuscript does he have....?
>> That's big news, if true.
>> > What did he learn about Kerouac when they were friends that we don't know from the massive amoun of autobiographical information on J.K. that we already have...?


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 by: Will Dockery - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 09:49 UTC

Robert Burrows wrote:

> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 1:39:22 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Zod wrote:
>> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:44:18 AM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:20:17 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 3:49:07 PM UTC-5, george....@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Father's House
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my father's house, although
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The man died thirteen years ago..
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They said it would be quite all right
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take a drive to see it now.
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dad laid those grey foundation blocks
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And built the whole thing (from a box),
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toiling after each full day's work..
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I helped, though I was only six..
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, here's the back door I would use
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here's where I'd remove my shoes
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To enter; there I'd leave my things
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, when allowed, climb up these stairs.
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this room I'd wash many a dish,
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaze out this window, and I'd wish
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be so many other places.
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Wishy-washy? Oh, I guess!)
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outside, the garden that he grew
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I would work the summers through,
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While watching my friends run and play
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mysterious games I never knew.
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That room's all changed; oh, where is it,
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one chair I was let to sit?
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (For boys can be such filthy things.)
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which, the corner where boys were put?
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh ... down that hall there is a room
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I'd be shut (as in a tomb)
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After the meal, to make no noise,
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To read or play alone, and then
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lights out: in bed by nine each night,
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face and pyjama bottoms down
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for my father's belt I'd wait.
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, if I were a millionaire
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd buy my father's house, and there
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd build a bonfire, oh so high
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its flames would light up all the air.
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~~
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George J. Dance
>> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Logos and other logoi, 2021
>> > [...]
>> >> > > > > > > > > Robert's friend met him, was(is?) living in his house, and owns an unpublished manuscript by Kerouac.
>> >> The person in question is a very private person who wouldn't be happy knowing that I mentioned anything about him in this forum. I'll tell you that I met him at a record show in 1986 and that he approached me about taping the copy of the 10 disc vinyl Dylan bootleg called Ten Of Swords. He has a mind-boggling record collection, and it's because of him that my musical world encompasses everyone from Benny Goodman to Albert Ayler, Dean Martin to Tuvan Throat Singers. I owe him a lot.
>>
>> > Cool.... which "unpublished" Jack Kerouac manuscript does he have....?
>>
>> > What did he learn about Kerouac when they were friends that we don't know from the massive amoun of autobiographical information on J.K. that we already have...?
>> Yes, the unpublished Kerouac manuscript is the most interesting detail.


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 by: Robert Burrows - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 10:06 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 4:49:14 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Robert Burrows wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 1:39:22 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Zod wrote:
> >> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:44:18 AM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:20:17 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 3:49:07 PM UTC-5, george....@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Father's House
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my father's house, although
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The man died thirteen years ago..
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They said it would be quite all right
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take a drive to see it now.
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dad laid those grey foundation blocks
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And built the whole thing (from a box),
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toiling after each full day's work..
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I helped, though I was only six..
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, here's the back door I would use
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here's where I'd remove my shoes
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To enter; there I'd leave my things
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, when allowed, climb up these stairs.
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this room I'd wash many a dish,
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaze out this window, and I'd wish
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be so many other places.
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Wishy-washy? Oh, I guess!)
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outside, the garden that he grew
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I would work the summers through,
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While watching my friends run and play
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mysterious games I never knew.
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That room's all changed; oh, where is it,
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one chair I was let to sit?
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (For boys can be such filthy things.)
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which, the corner where boys were put?
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh ... down that hall there is a room
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I'd be shut (as in a tomb)
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After the meal, to make no noise,
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To read or play alone, and then
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lights out: in bed by nine each night,
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face and pyjama bottoms down
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for my father's belt I'd wait.
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, if I were a millionaire
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd buy my father's house, and there
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd build a bonfire, oh so high
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its flames would light up all the air.
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~~
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George J. Dance
> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Logos and other logoi, 2021
> >> > [...]
> >> >> > > > > > > > > Robert's friend met him, was(is?) living in his house, and owns an unpublished manuscript by Kerouac.
> >> >> The person in question is a very private person who wouldn't be happy knowing that I mentioned anything about him in this forum. I'll tell you that I met him at a record show in 1986 and that he approached me about taping the copy of the 10 disc vinyl Dylan bootleg called Ten Of Swords. He has a mind-boggling record collection, and it's because of him that my musical world encompasses everyone from Benny Goodman to Albert Ayler, Dean Martin to Tuvan Throat Singers. I owe him a lot.
> >>
> >> > Cool.... which "unpublished" Jack Kerouac manuscript does he have.....?
> >>
> >> > What did he learn about Kerouac when they were friends that we don't know from the massive amoun of autobiographical information on J.K. that we already have...?
> >> Yes, the unpublished Kerouac manuscript is the most interesting detail..
>
> > I'm through treating you as anything but the retarded
> <Robert's fantasy trolling snipped>
>
> Good timing, just as you could have been giving us some details on the allegedly unpublished Jack Kerouac manuscript.
>
> If such an item actually exists, of course.


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 by: Will Dockery - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 10:14 UTC

On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:23:51 AM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:49:37 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > Sure, Pendragon, Robert mentioned this Jack Kerouac scholar that he said he knows, so of course I and other members of the group would like to know more about the person.
> >
> > HTH and HAND.
> What do you want to know, Will?

Say, a title or some idea of the content.

The year Jack Kerouac supposedly wrote alleged unpublished manuscript would also be interesting to know.

For starters.

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 10:34 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:14:24 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:23:51 AM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:49:37 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > Sure, Pendragon, Robert mentioned this Jack Kerouac scholar that he said he knows, so of course I and other members of the group would like to know more about the person.
> > >
> > > HTH and HAND.
> > What do you want to know, Will?
>
> Say, a title or some idea of the content.
>
> The year Jack Kerouac supposedly wrote alleged unpublished manuscript would also be interesting to know.
>
> For starters.

I suppose it could be his ‘The Memory Babe’ workbook that he
wrote in April of 1958, while living in Northport, Long Island.

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 10:49 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:35:46 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Ash Wurthing wrote:
>
> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:09:44 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:32:25 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:26:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:58:02 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> >> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:44:18 AM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:20:17 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 3:49:07 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Father's House
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my father's house, although
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The man died thirteen years ago.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They said it would be quite all right
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take a drive to see it now.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dad laid those grey foundation blocks
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And built the whole thing (from a box),
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toiling after each full day's work.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I helped, though I was only six.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, here's the back door I would use
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here's where I'd remove my shoes
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To enter; there I'd leave my things
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, when allowed, climb up these stairs.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this room I'd wash many a dish,
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaze out this window, and I'd wish
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be so many other places..
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Wishy-washy? Oh, I guess!)
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outside, the garden that he grew
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I would work the summers through,
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While watching my friends run and play
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mysterious games I never knew.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That room's all changed; oh, where is it,
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one chair I was let to sit?
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (For boys can be such filthy things.)
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which, the corner where boys were put?
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh ... down that hall there is a room
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I'd be shut (as in a tomb)
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After the meal, to make no noise,
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To read or play alone, and then
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lights out: in bed by nine each night,
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face and pyjama bottoms down
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for my father's belt I'd wait.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, if I were a millionaire
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd buy my father's house, and there
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd build a bonfire, oh so high
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its flames would light up all the air.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~~
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George J. Dance
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Logos and other logoi, 2021
> >> > > > [...]
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert's friend met him, was(is?) living in his house, and owns an unpublished manuscript by Kerouac.
> >> > > > > The person in question is a very private person who wouldn't be happy knowing that I mentioned anything about him in this forum. I'll tell you that I met him at a record show in 1986 and that he approached me about taping the copy of the 10 disc vinyl Dylan bootleg called Ten Of Swords. He has a mind-boggling record collection, and it's because of him that my musical world encompasses everyone from Benny Goodman to Albert Ayler, Dean Martin to Tuvan Throat Singers. I owe him a lot.
> >> > > > Cool.... which "unpublished" Jack Kerouac manuscript does he have.....?
> >> > > That's big news, if true.
> >> > > > What did he learn about Kerouac when they were friends that we don't know from the massive amoun of autobiographical information on J.K. that we already have...?
> >> > If true?
> >> Sure, unpublished Kerouac would be fantastic, if it exists.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> > Only to
>
> Typo corrected, see above.


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 by: Will Dockery - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 10:49 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:34:36 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:14:24 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:23:51 AM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:49:37 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sure, Pendragon, Robert mentioned this Jack Kerouac scholar that he said he knows, so of course I and other members of the group would like to know more about the person.
> > > >
> > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > What do you want to know, Will?
> >
> > Say, a title or some idea of the content.
> >
> > The year Jack Kerouac supposedly wrote alleged unpublished manuscript would also be interesting to know.
> >
> > For starters.
> I suppose it could be his ‘The Memory Babe’ workbook that he
> wrote in April of 1958, while living in Northport, Long Island.

I'm asking Dave Moore and other Kerouac experts what they think about it, if anything.

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 by: Spam-I-Am - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 10:50 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:49:24 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:34:36 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:14:24 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:23:51 AM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:49:37 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Sure, Pendragon, Robert mentioned this Jack Kerouac scholar that he said he knows, so of course I and other members of the group would like to know more about the person.
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > What do you want to know, Will?
> > >
> > > Say, a title or some idea of the content.
> > >
> > > The year Jack Kerouac supposedly wrote alleged unpublished manuscript would also be interesting to know.
> > >
> > > For starters.
> > I suppose it could be his ‘The Memory Babe’ workbook that he
> > wrote in April of 1958, while living in Northport, Long Island.
> I'm asking Dave Moore and other Kerouac experts what they think about it, if anything.

Well, there you go. You do that, and good luck to you.

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On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:49:03 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:35:46 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >
> > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:09:44 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:32:25 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > >> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:26:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:58:02 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > >> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:44:18 AM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> > > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:20:17 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 3:49:07 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Father's House
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my father's house, although
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The man died thirteen years ago.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They said it would be quite all right
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take a drive to see it now.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dad laid those grey foundation blocks
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And built the whole thing (from a box),
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toiling after each full day's work.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I helped, though I was only six.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, here's the back door I would use
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here's where I'd remove my shoes
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To enter; there I'd leave my things
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, when allowed, climb up these stairs.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this room I'd wash many a dish,
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaze out this window, and I'd wish
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be so many other places..
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Wishy-washy? Oh, I guess!)
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outside, the garden that he grew
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I would work the summers through,
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While watching my friends run and play
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mysterious games I never knew.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That room's all changed; oh, where is it,
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one chair I was let to sit?
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (For boys can be such filthy things.)
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which, the corner where boys were put?
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh ... down that hall there is a room
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I'd be shut (as in a tomb)
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After the meal, to make no noise,
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To read or play alone, and then
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lights out: in bed by nine each night,
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face and pyjama bottoms down
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for my father's belt I'd wait.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, if I were a millionaire
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd buy my father's house, and there
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd build a bonfire, oh so high
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its flames would light up all the air.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~~
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George J. Dance
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Logos and other logoi, 2021
> > >> > > > [...]
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert's friend met him, was(is?) living in his house, and owns an unpublished manuscript by Kerouac.
> > >> > > > > The person in question is a very private person who wouldn't be happy knowing that I mentioned anything about him in this forum. I'll tell you that I met him at a record show in 1986 and that he approached me about taping the copy of the 10 disc vinyl Dylan bootleg called Ten Of Swords. He has a mind-boggling record collection, and it's because of him that my musical world encompasses everyone from Benny Goodman to Albert Ayler, Dean Martin to Tuvan Throat Singers. I owe him a lot.
> > >> > > > Cool.... which "unpublished" Jack Kerouac manuscript does he have.....?
> > >> > > That's big news, if true.
> > >> > > > What did he learn about Kerouac when they were friends that we don't know from the massive amoun of autobiographical information on J.K. that we already have...?
> > >> > If true?
> > >> Sure, unpublished Kerouac would be fantastic, if it exists.
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > > Only to
> >
> > Typo corrected, see above.
> It’s funny how you do that so often, and it makes me laugh.


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 by: Robert Burrows - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 10:54 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:53:02 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:49:03 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:35:46 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:09:44 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:32:25 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > >> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:26:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:58:02 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > >> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:44:18 AM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >> > > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:20:17 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 3:49:07 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Father's House
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my father's house, although
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The man died thirteen years ago.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They said it would be quite all right
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take a drive to see it now.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dad laid those grey foundation blocks
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And built the whole thing (from a box),
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toiling after each full day's work.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I helped, though I was only six.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, here's the back door I would use
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here's where I'd remove my shoes
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To enter; there I'd leave my things
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, when allowed, climb up these stairs.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this room I'd wash many a dish,
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaze out this window, and I'd wish
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be so many other places..
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Wishy-washy? Oh, I guess!)
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outside, the garden that he grew
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I would work the summers through,
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While watching my friends run and play
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mysterious games I never knew.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That room's all changed; oh, where is it,
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one chair I was let to sit?
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (For boys can be such filthy things.)
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which, the corner where boys were put?
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh ... down that hall there is a room
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I'd be shut (as in a tomb)
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After the meal, to make no noise,
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To read or play alone, and then
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lights out: in bed by nine each night,
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face and pyjama bottoms down
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for my father's belt I'd wait.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, if I were a millionaire
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd buy my father's house, and there
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd build a bonfire, oh so high
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its flames would light up all the air.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~~
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George J. Dance
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Logos and other logoi, 2021
> > > >> > > > [...]
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert's friend met him, was(is?) living in his house, and owns an unpublished manuscript by Kerouac.
> > > >> > > > > The person in question is a very private person who wouldn't be happy knowing that I mentioned anything about him in this forum. I'll tell you that I met him at a record show in 1986 and that he approached me about taping the copy of the 10 disc vinyl Dylan bootleg called Ten Of Swords. He has a mind-boggling record collection, and it's because of him that my musical world encompasses everyone from Benny Goodman to Albert Ayler, Dean Martin to Tuvan Throat Singers. I owe him a lot.
> > > >> > > > Cool.... which "unpublished" Jack Kerouac manuscript does he have.....?
> > > >> > > That's big news, if true.
> > > >> > > > What did he learn about Kerouac when they were friends that we don't know from the massive amoun of autobiographical information on J.K.. that we already have...?
> > > >> > If true?
> > > >> Sure, unpublished Kerouac would be fantastic, if it exists.
> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >
> > > > Only to
> > >
> > > Typo corrected, see above.
> > It’s funny how you do that so often, and it makes me laugh.
> The best we can do is correct our errors, try to learn from them, and move on.
>
>
> HTH and HAND.


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 by: Spam-I-Am - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 10:57 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:53:02 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:49:03 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:35:46 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:09:44 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:32:25 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > >> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:26:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:58:02 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > >> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:44:18 AM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >> > > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:20:17 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 3:49:07 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Father's House
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my father's house, although
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The man died thirteen years ago.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They said it would be quite all right
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take a drive to see it now.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dad laid those grey foundation blocks
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And built the whole thing (from a box),
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toiling after each full day's work.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I helped, though I was only six.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, here's the back door I would use
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here's where I'd remove my shoes
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To enter; there I'd leave my things
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, when allowed, climb up these stairs.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this room I'd wash many a dish,
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaze out this window, and I'd wish
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be so many other places..
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Wishy-washy? Oh, I guess!)
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outside, the garden that he grew
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I would work the summers through,
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While watching my friends run and play
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mysterious games I never knew.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That room's all changed; oh, where is it,
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one chair I was let to sit?
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (For boys can be such filthy things.)
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which, the corner where boys were put?
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh ... down that hall there is a room
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I'd be shut (as in a tomb)
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After the meal, to make no noise,
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To read or play alone, and then
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lights out: in bed by nine each night,
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face and pyjama bottoms down
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for my father's belt I'd wait.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, if I were a millionaire
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd buy my father's house, and there
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd build a bonfire, oh so high
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its flames would light up all the air.
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~~
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George J. Dance
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Logos and other logoi, 2021
> > > >> > > > [...]
> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert's friend met him, was(is?) living in his house, and owns an unpublished manuscript by Kerouac.
> > > >> > > > > The person in question is a very private person who wouldn't be happy knowing that I mentioned anything about him in this forum. I'll tell you that I met him at a record show in 1986 and that he approached me about taping the copy of the 10 disc vinyl Dylan bootleg called Ten Of Swords. He has a mind-boggling record collection, and it's because of him that my musical world encompasses everyone from Benny Goodman to Albert Ayler, Dean Martin to Tuvan Throat Singers. I owe him a lot.
> > > >> > > > Cool.... which "unpublished" Jack Kerouac manuscript does he have.....?
> > > >> > > That's big news, if true.
> > > >> > > > What did he learn about Kerouac when they were friends that we don't know from the massive amoun of autobiographical information on J.K.. that we already have...?
> > > >> > If true?
> > > >> Sure, unpublished Kerouac would be fantastic, if it exists.
> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >
> > > > Only to
> > >
> > > Typo corrected, see above.
> > It’s funny how you do that so often, and it makes me laugh.
> The best we can do is correct our errors, try to learn from them, and move on.
>
>
> HTH and HAND.


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 by: Will Dockery - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 11:03 UTC

Robert Burrows wrote:

> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:53:02 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:49:03 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
>> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:35:46 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > Ash Wurthing wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:09:44 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > >> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:32:25 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
>> > > >> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:26:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > >> > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:58:02 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
>> > > >> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:44:18 AM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:20:17 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 3:49:07 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Father's House
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my father's house, although
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The man died thirteen years ago.
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They said it would be quite all right
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take a drive to see it now.
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dad laid those grey foundation blocks
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And built the whole thing (from a box),
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toiling after each full day's work.
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I helped, though I was only six.
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, here's the back door I would use
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here's where I'd remove my shoes
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To enter; there I'd leave my things
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, when allowed, climb up these stairs.
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this room I'd wash many a dish,
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaze out this window, and I'd wish
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be so many other places..
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Wishy-washy? Oh, I guess!)
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outside, the garden that he grew
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I would work the summers through,
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While watching my friends run and play
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mysterious games I never knew.
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That room's all changed; oh, where is it,
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one chair I was let to sit?
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (For boys can be such filthy things.)
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which, the corner where boys were put?
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh ... down that hall there is a room
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I'd be shut (as in a tomb)
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After the meal, to make no noise,
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To read or play alone, and then
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lights out: in bed by nine each night,
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face and pyjama bottoms down
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for my father's belt I'd wait.
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, if I were a millionaire
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd buy my father's house, and there
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd build a bonfire, oh so high
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its flames would light up all the air.
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~~
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George J. Dance
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Logos and other logoi, 2021
>> > > >> > > > [...]
>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert's friend met him, was(is?) living in his house, and owns an unpublished manuscript by Kerouac.
>> > > >> > > > > The person in question is a very private person who wouldn't be happy knowing that I mentioned anything about him in this forum. I'll tell you that I met him at a record show in 1986 and that he approached me about taping the copy of the 10 disc vinyl Dylan bootleg called Ten Of Swords. He has a mind-boggling record collection, and it's because of him that my musical world encompasses everyone from Benny Goodman to Albert Ayler, Dean Martin to Tuvan Throat Singers. I owe him a lot.
>> > > >> > > > Cool.... which "unpublished" Jack Kerouac manuscript does he have.....?
>> > > >> > > That's big news, if true.
>> > > >> > > > What did he learn about Kerouac when they were friends that we don't know from the massive amoun of autobiographical information on J.K.. that we already have...?
>> > > >> > If true?
>> > > >> Sure, unpublished Kerouac would be fantastic, if it exists.
>> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > >
>> > > > Only to
>> > >
>> > > Typo corrected, see above.
>> > It’s funny how you do that so often, and it makes me laugh.
>> The best we can do is correct our errors, try to learn from them, and move on.
>>
>>
>> HTH and HAND.


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 by: Will Dockery - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 11:04 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:57:22 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:53:02 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:49:03 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:35:46 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:09:44 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:32:25 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > >> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:26:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:58:02 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > > >> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:44:18 AM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:20:17 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 3:49:07 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Father's House
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my father's house, although
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The man died thirteen years ago.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They said it would be quite all right
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take a drive to see it now.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dad laid those grey foundation blocks
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And built the whole thing (from a box),
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toiling after each full day's work.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I helped, though I was only six.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, here's the back door I would use
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here's where I'd remove my shoes
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To enter; there I'd leave my things
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, when allowed, climb up these stairs.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this room I'd wash many a dish,
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaze out this window, and I'd wish
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be so many other places..
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Wishy-washy? Oh, I guess!)
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outside, the garden that he grew
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I would work the summers through,
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While watching my friends run and play
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mysterious games I never knew.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That room's all changed; oh, where is it,
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one chair I was let to sit?
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (For boys can be such filthy things.)
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which, the corner where boys were put?
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh ... down that hall there is a room
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I'd be shut (as in a tomb)
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After the meal, to make no noise,
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To read or play alone, and then
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lights out: in bed by nine each night,
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face and pyjama bottoms down
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for my father's belt I'd wait.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, if I were a millionaire
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd buy my father's house, and there
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd build a bonfire, oh so high
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its flames would light up all the air.
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~~
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George J. Dance
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Logos and other logoi, 2021
> > > > >> > > > [...]
> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert's friend met him, was(is?) living in his house, and owns an unpublished manuscript by Kerouac.
> > > > >> > > > > The person in question is a very private person who wouldn't be happy knowing that I mentioned anything about him in this forum. I'll tell you that I met him at a record show in 1986 and that he approached me about taping the copy of the 10 disc vinyl Dylan bootleg called Ten Of Swords. He has a mind-boggling record collection, and it's because of him that my musical world encompasses everyone from Benny Goodman to Albert Ayler, Dean Martin to Tuvan Throat Singers. I owe him a lot.
> > > > >> > > > Cool.... which "unpublished" Jack Kerouac manuscript does he have.....?
> > > > >> > > That's big news, if true.
> > > > >> > > > What did he learn about Kerouac when they were friends that we don't know from the massive amoun of autobiographical information on J..K. that we already have...?
> > > > >> > If true?
> > > > >> Sure, unpublished Kerouac would be fantastic, if it exists.
> > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > >
> > > > > Only to
> > > >
> > > > Typo corrected, see above.
> > > It’s funny how you do that so often, and it makes me laugh.
> > The best we can do is correct our errors, try to learn from them, and move on.
> >
> >
> > HTH and HAND.
> Speak for yourself. That may be the best you can do. That’s certainly not what I do.


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 by: Spam-I-Am - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 11:10 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:03:14 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Robert Burrows wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:53:02 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:49:03 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:35:46 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:09:44 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > >> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:32:25 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >> > > >> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:26:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > >> > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:58:02 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:44:18 AM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:20:17 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 3:49:07 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Father's House
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my father's house, although
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The man died thirteen years ago.
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They said it would be quite all right
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take a drive to see it now.
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dad laid those grey foundation blocks
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And built the whole thing (from a box),
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toiling after each full day's work.
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I helped, though I was only six.
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, here's the back door I would use
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here's where I'd remove my shoes
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To enter; there I'd leave my things
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, when allowed, climb up these stairs.
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this room I'd wash many a dish,
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaze out this window, and I'd wish
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be so many other places..
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Wishy-washy? Oh, I guess!)
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outside, the garden that he grew
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I would work the summers through,
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While watching my friends run and play
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mysterious games I never knew.
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That room's all changed; oh, where is it,
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one chair I was let to sit?
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (For boys can be such filthy things.)
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which, the corner where boys were put?
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh ... down that hall there is a room
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I'd be shut (as in a tomb)
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After the meal, to make no noise,
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To read or play alone, and then
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lights out: in bed by nine each night,
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face and pyjama bottoms down
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for my father's belt I'd wait.
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, if I were a millionaire
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd buy my father's house, and there
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd build a bonfire, oh so high
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its flames would light up all the air.
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~~
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George J. Dance
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Logos and other logoi, 2021
> >> > > >> > > > [...]
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert's friend met him, was(is?) living in his house, and owns an unpublished manuscript by Kerouac.
> >> > > >> > > > > The person in question is a very private person who wouldn't be happy knowing that I mentioned anything about him in this forum. I'll tell you that I met him at a record show in 1986 and that he approached me about taping the copy of the 10 disc vinyl Dylan bootleg called Ten Of Swords. He has a mind-boggling record collection, and it's because of him that my musical world encompasses everyone from Benny Goodman to Albert Ayler, Dean Martin to Tuvan Throat Singers. I owe him a lot.
> >> > > >> > > > Cool.... which "unpublished" Jack Kerouac manuscript does he have.....?
> >> > > >> > > That's big news, if true.
> >> > > >> > > > What did he learn about Kerouac when they were friends that we don't know from the massive amoun of autobiographical information on J.K.. that we already have...?
> >> > > >> > If true?
> >> > > >> Sure, unpublished Kerouac would be fantastic, if it exists.
> >> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> > >
> >> > > > Only to
> >> > >
> >> > > Typo corrected, see above.
> >> > It’s funny how you do that so often, and it makes me laugh.
> >> The best we can do is correct our errors, try to learn from them, and move on.
> >>
> >>
> >> HTH and HAND.
> > Talk about
>
> Right, anything to deflect from discussing your best friend and his claim to owning an allegedly unpublished Jack Kerouac manuscript, Robert?
>
> We know.


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 by: Spam-I-Am - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 11:12 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:04:42 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:57:22 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:53:02 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:49:03 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:35:46 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:09:44 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:32:25 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > >> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:26:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:58:02 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:44:18 AM UTC-5, rjbur....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:20:17 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 3:49:07 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Father's House
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my father's house, although
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The man died thirteen years ago.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They said it would be quite all right
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take a drive to see it now.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dad laid those grey foundation blocks
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And built the whole thing (from a box),
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toiling after each full day's work.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I helped, though I was only six.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, here's the back door I would use
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here's where I'd remove my shoes
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To enter; there I'd leave my things
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, when allowed, climb up these stairs.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this room I'd wash many a dish,
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaze out this window, and I'd wish
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be so many other places..
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Wishy-washy? Oh, I guess!)
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outside, the garden that he grew
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I would work the summers through,
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While watching my friends run and play
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mysterious games I never knew.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That room's all changed; oh, where is it,
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one chair I was let to sit?
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (For boys can be such filthy things.)
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which, the corner where boys were put?
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh ... down that hall there is a room
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I'd be shut (as in a tomb)
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After the meal, to make no noise,
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To read or play alone, and then
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lights out: in bed by nine each night,
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face and pyjama bottoms down
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for my father's belt I'd wait.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, if I were a millionaire
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd buy my father's house, and there
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd build a bonfire, oh so high
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its flames would light up all the air.
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~~
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George J. Dance
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Logos and other logoi, 2021
> > > > > >> > > > [...]
> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert's friend met him, was(is?) living in his house, and owns an unpublished manuscript by Kerouac.
> > > > > >> > > > > The person in question is a very private person who wouldn't be happy knowing that I mentioned anything about him in this forum. I'll tell you that I met him at a record show in 1986 and that he approached me about taping the copy of the 10 disc vinyl Dylan bootleg called Ten Of Swords. He has a mind-boggling record collection, and it's because of him that my musical world encompasses everyone from Benny Goodman to Albert Ayler, Dean Martin to Tuvan Throat Singers. I owe him a lot.
> > > > > >> > > > Cool.... which "unpublished" Jack Kerouac manuscript does he have.....?
> > > > > >> > > That's big news, if true.
> > > > > >> > > > What did he learn about Kerouac when they were friends that we don't know from the massive amoun of autobiographical information on J.K. that we already have...?
> > > > > >> > If true?
> > > > > >> Sure, unpublished Kerouac would be fantastic, if it exists.
> > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > >
> > > > > > Only to
> > > > >
> > > > > Typo corrected, see above.
> > > > It’s funny how you do that so often, and it makes me laugh.
> > > The best we can do is correct our errors, try to learn from them, and move on.
> > >
> > >
> > > HTH and HAND.
> > Speak for yourself. That may be the best you can do. That’s certainly not what I do.
> You leave your errors uncorrected?


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 by: Robert Burrows - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 11:12 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:03:14 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Robert Burrows wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:53:02 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:49:03 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:35:46 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > Ash Wurthing wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:09:44 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > >> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:32:25 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> >> > > >> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:26:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > >> > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:58:02 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:44:18 AM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:20:17 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 3:49:07 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Father's House
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my father's house, although
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The man died thirteen years ago.
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They said it would be quite all right
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take a drive to see it now.
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dad laid those grey foundation blocks
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And built the whole thing (from a box),
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toiling after each full day's work.
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I helped, though I was only six.
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, here's the back door I would use
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here's where I'd remove my shoes
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To enter; there I'd leave my things
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, when allowed, climb up these stairs.
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this room I'd wash many a dish,
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaze out this window, and I'd wish
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be so many other places..
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Wishy-washy? Oh, I guess!)
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outside, the garden that he grew
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I would work the summers through,
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While watching my friends run and play
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mysterious games I never knew.
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That room's all changed; oh, where is it,
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one chair I was let to sit?
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (For boys can be such filthy things.)
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which, the corner where boys were put?
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh ... down that hall there is a room
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I'd be shut (as in a tomb)
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After the meal, to make no noise,
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To read or play alone, and then
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lights out: in bed by nine each night,
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face and pyjama bottoms down
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for my father's belt I'd wait.
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, if I were a millionaire
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd buy my father's house, and there
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd build a bonfire, oh so high
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its flames would light up all the air.
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~~
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George J. Dance
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Logos and other logoi, 2021
> >> > > >> > > > [...]
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert's friend met him, was(is?) living in his house, and owns an unpublished manuscript by Kerouac.
> >> > > >> > > > > The person in question is a very private person who wouldn't be happy knowing that I mentioned anything about him in this forum. I'll tell you that I met him at a record show in 1986 and that he approached me about taping the copy of the 10 disc vinyl Dylan bootleg called Ten Of Swords. He has a mind-boggling record collection, and it's because of him that my musical world encompasses everyone from Benny Goodman to Albert Ayler, Dean Martin to Tuvan Throat Singers. I owe him a lot.
> >> > > >> > > > Cool.... which "unpublished" Jack Kerouac manuscript does he have.....?
> >> > > >> > > That's big news, if true.
> >> > > >> > > > What did he learn about Kerouac when they were friends that we don't know from the massive amoun of autobiographical information on J.K.. that we already have...?
> >> > > >> > If true?
> >> > > >> Sure, unpublished Kerouac would be fantastic, if it exists.
> >> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> > >
> >> > > > Only to
> >> > >
> >> > > Typo corrected, see above.
> >> > It’s funny how you do that so often, and it makes me laugh.
> >> The best we can do is correct our errors, try to learn from them, and move on.
> >>
> >>
> >> HTH and HAND.
> > Talk about
>
> Right, anything to deflect from discussing your best friend and his claim to owning an allegedly unpublished Jack Kerouac manuscript, Robert?
>
> We know.


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 by: Will Dockery - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 11:24 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:12:39 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:04:42 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:57:22 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:53:02 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:49:03 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:35:46 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:09:44 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > >> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:32:25 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > >> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:26:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:58:02 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:44:18 AM UTC-5, rjbur....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:20:17 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 3:49:07 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Father's House
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my father's house, although
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The man died thirteen years ago.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They said it would be quite all right
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take a drive to see it now.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dad laid those grey foundation blocks
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And built the whole thing (from a box),
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toiling after each full day's work.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I helped, though I was only six.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, here's the back door I would use
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here's where I'd remove my shoes
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To enter; there I'd leave my things
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, when allowed, climb up these stairs.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this room I'd wash many a dish,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaze out this window, and I'd wish
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be so many other places..
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Wishy-washy? Oh, I guess!)
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outside, the garden that he grew
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I would work the summers through,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While watching my friends run and play
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mysterious games I never knew.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That room's all changed; oh, where is it,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one chair I was let to sit?
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (For boys can be such filthy things.)
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which, the corner where boys were put?
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh ... down that hall there is a room
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I'd be shut (as in a tomb)
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After the meal, to make no noise,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To read or play alone, and then
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lights out: in bed by nine each night,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face and pyjama bottoms down
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for my father's belt I'd wait.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, if I were a millionaire
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd buy my father's house, and there
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd build a bonfire, oh so high
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its flames would light up all the air.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~~
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George J. Dance
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Logos and other logoi, 2021
> > > > > > >> > > > [...]
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert's friend met him, was(is?) living in his house, and owns an unpublished manuscript by Kerouac.
> > > > > > >> > > > > The person in question is a very private person who wouldn't be happy knowing that I mentioned anything about him in this forum.. I'll tell you that I met him at a record show in 1986 and that he approached me about taping the copy of the 10 disc vinyl Dylan bootleg called Ten Of Swords. He has a mind-boggling record collection, and it's because of him that my musical world encompasses everyone from Benny Goodman to Albert Ayler, Dean Martin to Tuvan Throat Singers. I owe him a lot.
> > > > > > >> > > > Cool.... which "unpublished" Jack Kerouac manuscript does he have.....?
> > > > > > >> > > That's big news, if true.
> > > > > > >> > > > What did he learn about Kerouac when they were friends that we don't know from the massive amoun of autobiographical information on J.K. that we already have...?
> > > > > > >> > If true?
> > > > > > >> Sure, unpublished Kerouac would be fantastic, if it exists.
> > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Only to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Typo corrected, see above.
> > > > > It’s funny how you do that so often, and it makes me laugh.
> > > > The best we can do is correct our errors, try to learn from them, and move on.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > Speak for yourself. That may be the best you can do. That’s certainly not what I do.
> > You leave your errors uncorrected?
> I certainly don’t do what you do. If you haven’t seen what I do, then you haven’t been paying attention.


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On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:24:21 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:12:39 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:04:42 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:57:22 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:53:02 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:49:03 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:35:46 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:09:44 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > >> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:32:25 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:26:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:58:02 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:44:18 AM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:20:17 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 3:49:07 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Father's House
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my father's house, although
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The man died thirteen years ago.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They said it would be quite all right
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take a drive to see it now.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dad laid those grey foundation blocks
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And built the whole thing (from a box),
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toiling after each full day's work.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I helped, though I was only six.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, here's the back door I would use
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here's where I'd remove my shoes
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To enter; there I'd leave my things
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, when allowed, climb up these stairs.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this room I'd wash many a dish,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaze out this window, and I'd wish
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be so many other places..
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Wishy-washy? Oh, I guess!)
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outside, the garden that he grew
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I would work the summers through,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While watching my friends run and play
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mysterious games I never knew.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That room's all changed; oh, where is it,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one chair I was let to sit?
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (For boys can be such filthy things.)
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which, the corner where boys were put?
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh ... down that hall there is a room
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I'd be shut (as in a tomb)
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After the meal, to make no noise,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To read or play alone, and then
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lights out: in bed by nine each night,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face and pyjama bottoms down
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for my father's belt I'd wait.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, if I were a millionaire
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd buy my father's house, and there
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd build a bonfire, oh so high
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its flames would light up all the air.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~~
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George J. Dance
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Logos and other logoi, 2021
> > > > > > > >> > > > [...]
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert's friend met him, was(is?) living in his house, and owns an unpublished manuscript by Kerouac.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > The person in question is a very private person who wouldn't be happy knowing that I mentioned anything about him in this forum. I'll tell you that I met him at a record show in 1986 and that he approached me about taping the copy of the 10 disc vinyl Dylan bootleg called Ten Of Swords. He has a mind-boggling record collection, and it's because of him that my musical world encompasses everyone from Benny Goodman to Albert Ayler, Dean Martin to Tuvan Throat Singers. I owe him a lot.
> > > > > > > >> > > > Cool.... which "unpublished" Jack Kerouac manuscript does he have.....?
> > > > > > > >> > > That's big news, if true.
> > > > > > > >> > > > What did he learn about Kerouac when they were friends that we don't know from the massive amoun of autobiographical information on J.K. that we already have...?
> > > > > > > >> > If true?
> > > > > > > >> Sure, unpublished Kerouac would be fantastic, if it exists..
> > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Only to
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Typo corrected, see above.
> > > > > > It’s funny how you do that so often, and it makes me laugh.
> > > > > The best we can do is correct our errors, try to learn from them, and move on.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > Speak for yourself. That may be the best you can do. That’s certainly not what I do.
> > > You leave your errors uncorrected?
> > I certainly don’t do what you do. If you haven’t seen what I do, then you haven’t been paying attention.
> I remember when you wrote about "Best poets" when you meant "Beat poets", which was pretty funny.
>
> You probably deleted that post, though, as you usually did back then.


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On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:30:01 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:24:21 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:12:39 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:04:42 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:57:22 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:53:02 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:49:03 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:35:46 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:09:44 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:32:25 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:26:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:58:02 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:44:18 AM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:20:17 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 3:49:07 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Father's House
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my father's house, although
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The man died thirteen years ago.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They said it would be quite all right
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take a drive to see it now.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dad laid those grey foundation blocks
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And built the whole thing (from a box),
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toiling after each full day's work.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I helped, though I was only six.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, here's the back door I would use
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here's where I'd remove my shoes
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To enter; there I'd leave my things
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, when allowed, climb up these stairs.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this room I'd wash many a dish,
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaze out this window, and I'd wish
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be so many other places..
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Wishy-washy? Oh, I guess!)
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outside, the garden that he grew
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I would work the summers through,
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While watching my friends run and play
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mysterious games I never knew.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That room's all changed; oh, where is it,
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one chair I was let to sit?
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (For boys can be such filthy things.)
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which, the corner where boys were put?
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh ... down that hall there is a room
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I'd be shut (as in a tomb)
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After the meal, to make no noise,
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To read or play alone, and then
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lights out: in bed by nine each night,
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face and pyjama bottoms down
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for my father's belt I'd wait.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, if I were a millionaire
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd buy my father's house, and there
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd build a bonfire, oh so high
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its flames would light up all the air.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~~
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George J. Dance
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Logos and other logoi, 2021
> > > > > > > > >> > > > [...]
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert's friend met him, was(is?) living in his house, and owns an unpublished manuscript by Kerouac.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > The person in question is a very private person who wouldn't be happy knowing that I mentioned anything about him in this forum. I'll tell you that I met him at a record show in 1986 and that he approached me about taping the copy of the 10 disc vinyl Dylan bootleg called Ten Of Swords. He has a mind-boggling record collection, and it's because of him that my musical world encompasses everyone from Benny Goodman to Albert Ayler, Dean Martin to Tuvan Throat Singers. I owe him a lot.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > Cool.... which "unpublished" Jack Kerouac manuscript does he have.....?
> > > > > > > > >> > > That's big news, if true.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > What did he learn about Kerouac when they were friends that we don't know from the massive amoun of autobiographical information on J.K. that we already have...?
> > > > > > > > >> > If true?
> > > > > > > > >> Sure, unpublished Kerouac would be fantastic, if it exists.
> > > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Only to
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Typo corrected, see above.
> > > > > > > It’s funny how you do that so often, and it makes me laugh.
> > > > > > The best we can do is correct our errors, try to learn from them, and move on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > > Speak for yourself. That may be the best you can do. That’s certainly not what I do.
> > > > You leave your errors uncorrected?
> > > I certainly don’t do what you do. If you haven’t seen what I do, then you haven’t been paying attention.
> > I remember when you wrote about "Best poets" when you meant "Beat poets", which was pretty funny.
> >
> > You probably deleted that post, though, as you usually did back then.
> I remember that too, and if that’s what you think, then that’s what you think.
> That tells people the type of person you are, and how you think of others..
> I can’t change how you think, or how other people think about what you write.


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 by: Spam-I-Am - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 11:45 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:42:38 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:30:01 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:24:21 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:12:39 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:04:42 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:57:22 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:53:02 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:49:03 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:35:46 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:09:44 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:32:25 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:26:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:58:02 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:44:18 AM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:20:17 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 3:49:07 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Father's House
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my father's house, although
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The man died thirteen years ago.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They said it would be quite all right
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take a drive to see it now.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dad laid those grey foundation blocks
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And built the whole thing (from a box),
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toiling after each full day's work.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I helped, though I was only six.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, here's the back door I would use
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here's where I'd remove my shoes
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To enter; there I'd leave my things
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, when allowed, climb up these stairs.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this room I'd wash many a dish,
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaze out this window, and I'd wish
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be so many other places..
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Wishy-washy? Oh, I guess!)
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outside, the garden that he grew
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I would work the summers through,
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While watching my friends run and play
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mysterious games I never knew.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That room's all changed; oh, where is it,
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one chair I was let to sit?
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (For boys can be such filthy things.)
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which, the corner where boys were put?
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh ... down that hall there is a room
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I'd be shut (as in a tomb)
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After the meal, to make no noise,
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To read or play alone, and then
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lights out: in bed by nine each night,
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face and pyjama bottoms down
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for my father's belt I'd wait.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, if I were a millionaire
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd buy my father's house, and there
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd build a bonfire, oh so high
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its flames would light up all the air.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~~
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George J. Dance
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Logos and other logoi, 2021
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > [...]
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert's friend met him, was(is?) living in his house, and owns an unpublished manuscript by Kerouac.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > The person in question is a very private person who wouldn't be happy knowing that I mentioned anything about him in this forum. I'll tell you that I met him at a record show in 1986 and that he approached me about taping the copy of the 10 disc vinyl Dylan bootleg called Ten Of Swords. He has a mind-boggling record collection, and it's because of him that my musical world encompasses everyone from Benny Goodman to Albert Ayler, Dean Martin to Tuvan Throat Singers. I owe him a lot.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Cool.... which "unpublished" Jack Kerouac manuscript does he have.....?
> > > > > > > > > >> > > That's big news, if true.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > What did he learn about Kerouac when they were friends that we don't know from the massive amoun of autobiographical information on J.K. that we already have...?
> > > > > > > > > >> > If true?
> > > > > > > > > >> Sure, unpublished Kerouac would be fantastic, if it exists.
> > > > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Only to
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Typo corrected, see above.
> > > > > > > > It’s funny how you do that so often, and it makes me laugh.
> > > > > > > The best we can do is correct our errors, try to learn from them, and move on.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > > > Speak for yourself. That may be the best you can do. That’s certainly not what I do.
> > > > > You leave your errors uncorrected?
> > > > I certainly don’t do what you do. If you haven’t seen what I do, then you haven’t been paying attention.
> > > I remember when you wrote about "Best poets" when you meant "Beat poets", which was pretty funny.
> > >
> > > You probably deleted that post, though, as you usually did back then.
> > I remember that too, and if that’s what you think, then that’s what you think.
> > That tells people the type of person you are, and how you think of others.
> > I can’t change how you think, or how other people think about what you write.
> Good, I have no argument with that.
>
> HTH and HAND.


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 by: Robert Burrows - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 11:48 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:42:38 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:30:01 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:24:21 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:12:39 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:04:42 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:57:22 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:53:02 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:49:03 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:35:46 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:09:44 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:32:25 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:26:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:58:02 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:44:18 AM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:20:17 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 3:49:07 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Father's House
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my father's house, although
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The man died thirteen years ago.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They said it would be quite all right
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take a drive to see it now.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dad laid those grey foundation blocks
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And built the whole thing (from a box),
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toiling after each full day's work.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I helped, though I was only six.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, here's the back door I would use
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here's where I'd remove my shoes
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To enter; there I'd leave my things
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, when allowed, climb up these stairs.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this room I'd wash many a dish,
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaze out this window, and I'd wish
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be so many other places..
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Wishy-washy? Oh, I guess!)
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outside, the garden that he grew
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I would work the summers through,
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While watching my friends run and play
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mysterious games I never knew.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That room's all changed; oh, where is it,
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one chair I was let to sit?
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (For boys can be such filthy things.)
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which, the corner where boys were put?
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh ... down that hall there is a room
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I'd be shut (as in a tomb)
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After the meal, to make no noise,
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To read or play alone, and then
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lights out: in bed by nine each night,
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face and pyjama bottoms down
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for my father's belt I'd wait.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, if I were a millionaire
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd buy my father's house, and there
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd build a bonfire, oh so high
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its flames would light up all the air.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~~
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George J. Dance
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Logos and other logoi, 2021
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > [...]
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert's friend met him, was(is?) living in his house, and owns an unpublished manuscript by Kerouac.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > The person in question is a very private person who wouldn't be happy knowing that I mentioned anything about him in this forum. I'll tell you that I met him at a record show in 1986 and that he approached me about taping the copy of the 10 disc vinyl Dylan bootleg called Ten Of Swords. He has a mind-boggling record collection, and it's because of him that my musical world encompasses everyone from Benny Goodman to Albert Ayler, Dean Martin to Tuvan Throat Singers. I owe him a lot.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Cool.... which "unpublished" Jack Kerouac manuscript does he have.....?
> > > > > > > > > >> > > That's big news, if true.
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > What did he learn about Kerouac when they were friends that we don't know from the massive amoun of autobiographical information on J.K. that we already have...?
> > > > > > > > > >> > If true?
> > > > > > > > > >> Sure, unpublished Kerouac would be fantastic, if it exists.
> > > > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Only to
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Typo corrected, see above.
> > > > > > > > It’s funny how you do that so often, and it makes me laugh.
> > > > > > > The best we can do is correct our errors, try to learn from them, and move on.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > HTH and HAND.
> > > > > > Speak for yourself. That may be the best you can do. That’s certainly not what I do.
> > > > > You leave your errors uncorrected?
> > > > I certainly don’t do what you do. If you haven’t seen what I do, then you haven’t been paying attention.
> > > I remember when you wrote about "Best poets" when you meant "Beat poets", which was pretty funny.
> > >
> > > You probably deleted that post, though, as you usually did back then.
> > I remember that too, and if that’s what you think, then that’s what you think.
> > That tells people the type of person you are, and how you think of others.
> > I can’t change how you think, or how other people think about what you write.
> Good, I have no argument with that.
>
> HTH and HAND.
Belly laughs are good in the morning. Keep 'em coming.


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 by: Will Dockery - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 11:53 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:10:40 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:03:14 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Robert Burrows wrote:
> >
> > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:53:02 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:49:03 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > >> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:35:46 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> > > Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:09:44 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> > > >> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:32:25 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > >> > > >> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:26:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> > > >> > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:58:02 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > >> > > >> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:44:18 AM UTC-5, rjbur....@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> > > >> > > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:20:17 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > >> > > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 3:49:07 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > >> > > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Father's House
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my father's house, although
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The man died thirteen years ago.
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They said it would be quite all right
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take a drive to see it now.
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dad laid those grey foundation blocks
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And built the whole thing (from a box),
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toiling after each full day's work.
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I helped, though I was only six.
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, here's the back door I would use
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here's where I'd remove my shoes
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To enter; there I'd leave my things
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, when allowed, climb up these stairs.
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this room I'd wash many a dish,
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaze out this window, and I'd wish
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be so many other places..
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Wishy-washy? Oh, I guess!)
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outside, the garden that he grew
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I would work the summers through,
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While watching my friends run and play
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mysterious games I never knew.
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That room's all changed; oh, where is it,
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one chair I was let to sit?
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (For boys can be such filthy things.)
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which, the corner where boys were put?
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh ... down that hall there is a room
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I'd be shut (as in a tomb)
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After the meal, to make no noise,
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To read or play alone, and then
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lights out: in bed by nine each night,
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face and pyjama bottoms down
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for my father's belt I'd wait.
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, if I were a millionaire
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd buy my father's house, and there
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd build a bonfire, oh so high
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its flames would light up all the air.
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~~
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George J. Dance
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Logos and other logoi, 2021
> > >> > > >> > > > [...]
> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert's friend met him, was(is?) living in his house, and owns an unpublished manuscript by Kerouac.
> > >> > > >> > > > > The person in question is a very private person who wouldn't be happy knowing that I mentioned anything about him in this forum. I'll tell you that I met him at a record show in 1986 and that he approached me about taping the copy of the 10 disc vinyl Dylan bootleg called Ten Of Swords. He has a mind-boggling record collection, and it's because of him that my musical world encompasses everyone from Benny Goodman to Albert Ayler, Dean Martin to Tuvan Throat Singers. I owe him a lot.
> > >> > > >> > > > Cool.... which "unpublished" Jack Kerouac manuscript does he have.....?
> > >> > > >> > > That's big news, if true.
> > >> > > >> > > > What did he learn about Kerouac when they were friends that we don't know from the massive amoun of autobiographical information on J.K.. that we already have...?
> > >> > > >> > If true?
> > >> > > >> Sure, unpublished Kerouac would be fantastic, if it exists.
> > >> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Only to
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Typo corrected, see above.
> > >> > It’s funny how you do that so often, and it makes me laugh..
> > >> The best we can do is correct our errors, try to learn from them, and move on.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> HTH and HAND.
> > > Talk about
> >
> > Right, anything to deflect from discussing your best friend and his claim to owning an allegedly unpublished Jack Kerouac manuscript, Robert?
> >
> > We know.
> Robert related a personal anecdote that you’ve distorted.


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 by: Robert Burrows - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 13:28 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:53:25 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:10:40 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:03:14 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > Robert Burrows wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:53:02 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:49:03 AM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > >> > On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:35:46 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> > > Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:09:44 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> > > >> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:32:25 PM UTC-5, Spam-I-Am wrote:
> > > >> > > >> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:26:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> > > >> > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:58:02 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> > > >> > > >> > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:44:18 AM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >> > > >> > > > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:20:17 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > >> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 3:49:07 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > >> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Father's House
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my father's house, although
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The man died thirteen years ago.
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They said it would be quite all right
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take a drive to see it now.
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dad laid those grey foundation blocks
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And built the whole thing (from a box),
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toiling after each full day's work.
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I helped, though I was only six.
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, here's the back door I would use
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here's where I'd remove my shoes
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To enter; there I'd leave my things
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, when allowed, climb up these stairs.
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this room I'd wash many a dish,
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaze out this window, and I'd wish
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be so many other places..
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Wishy-washy? Oh, I guess!)
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outside, the garden that he grew
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I would work the summers through,
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While watching my friends run and play
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mysterious games I never knew.
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That room's all changed; oh, where is it,
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one chair I was let to sit?
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (For boys can be such filthy things.)
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which, the corner where boys were put?
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh ... down that hall there is a room
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I'd be shut (as in a tomb)
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After the meal, to make no noise,
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To read or play alone, and then
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lights out: in bed by nine each night,
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face and pyjama bottoms down
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for my father's belt I'd wait.
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, if I were a millionaire
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd buy my father's house, and there
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd build a bonfire, oh so high
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its flames would light up all the air.
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~~
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George J. Dance
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Logos and other logoi, 2021
> > > >> > > >> > > > [...]
> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert's friend met him, was(is?) living in his house, and owns an unpublished manuscript by Kerouac.
> > > >> > > >> > > > > The person in question is a very private person who wouldn't be happy knowing that I mentioned anything about him in this forum. I'll tell you that I met him at a record show in 1986 and that he approached me about taping the copy of the 10 disc vinyl Dylan bootleg called Ten Of Swords. He has a mind-boggling record collection, and it's because of him that my musical world encompasses everyone from Benny Goodman to Albert Ayler, Dean Martin to Tuvan Throat Singers. I owe him a lot.
> > > >> > > >> > > > Cool.... which "unpublished" Jack Kerouac manuscript does he have.....?
> > > >> > > >> > > That's big news, if true.
> > > >> > > >> > > > What did he learn about Kerouac when they were friends that we don't know from the massive amoun of autobiographical information on J.K.. that we already have...?
> > > >> > > >> > If true?
> > > >> > > >> Sure, unpublished Kerouac would be fantastic, if it exists.
> > > >> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > Only to
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Typo corrected, see above.
> > > >> > It’s funny how you do that so often, and it makes me laugh.
> > > >> The best we can do is correct our errors, try to learn from them, and move on.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> HTH and HAND.
> > > > Talk about
> > >
> > > Right, anything to deflect from discussing your best friend and his claim to owning an allegedly unpublished Jack Kerouac manuscript, Robert?
> > >
> > > We know.
> > Robert related a personal anecdote that you’ve distorted.
> I did not.
>
> Robert mentioned an unpublished Jack Kerouac manuscript and I'd be interested in more details.
>
> No distortion at all.
> > People don’t generally appreciate that, and choose not to
> > discuss personal things with people who do that.
> That's Robert's choice.


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 by: Robert Burrows - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 14:06 UTC

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 8:52:48 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Spam-I-Am wrote:
>
> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:26:16 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 3:58:02 PM UTC-5, Zod wrote:
> >> > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 4:44:18 AM UTC-5, rjbur...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:20:17 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 3:49:07 PM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Father's House
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my father's house, although
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The man died thirteen years ago.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They said it would be quite all right
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take a drive to see it now.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dad laid those grey foundation blocks
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And built the whole thing (from a box),
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Toiling after each full day's work.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I helped, though I was only six.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look, here's the back door I would use
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here's where I'd remove my shoes
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To enter; there I'd leave my things
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And, when allowed, climb up these stairs.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this room I'd wash many a dish,
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaze out this window, and I'd wish
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be so many other places.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Wishy-washy? Oh, I guess!)
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outside, the garden that he grew
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I would work the summers through,
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While watching my friends run and play
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mysterious games I never knew.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That room's all changed; oh, where is it,
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The one chair I was let to sit?
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (For boys can be such filthy things.)
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which, the corner where boys were put?
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh ... down that hall there is a room
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where I'd be shut (as in a tomb)
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After the meal, to make no noise,
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To read or play alone, and then
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lights out: in bed by nine each night,
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some nights wanting to pee with fright,
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face and pyjama bottoms down
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for my father's belt I'd wait.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, if I were a millionaire
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd buy my father's house, and there
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd build a bonfire, oh so high
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its flames would light up all the air.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~~
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George J. Dance
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Logos and other logoi, 2021
> >> > [...]
> >> > > > > > > > > > > Robert's friend met him, was(is?) living in his house, and owns an unpublished manuscript by Kerouac.
> >> > > The person in question is a very private person who wouldn't be happy knowing that I mentioned anything about him in this forum. I'll tell you that I met him at a record show in 1986 and that he approached me about taping the copy of the 10 disc vinyl Dylan bootleg called Ten Of Swords. He has a mind-boggling record collection, and it's because of him that my musical world encompasses everyone from Benny Goodman to Albert Ayler, Dean Martin to Tuvan Throat Singers. I owe him a lot.
> >> > Cool.... which "unpublished" Jack Kerouac manuscript does he have.....?
> >> That's big news, if true.
> >> > What did he learn about Kerouac when they were friends that we don't know from the massive amoun of autobiographical information on J.K. that we already have...?
>
> > If true?
>
> Yes, if Robert's friend actually has an unpublished Jack Kerouac manuscript.


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