On Thursday, 20 January 2022 at 19:27:59 UTC+11, alvey wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 17:10:35 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>
> > On 20/01/2022 9:41 am, alvey wrote:
> >> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 07:14:44 +0800, Clocky wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 19/01/2022 3:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> >>>> On 18/01/2022 8:01 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >>>>> On 18/01/2022 8:25 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> >>>>>> On 18/01/2022 6:19 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 18/01/2022 4:45 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 10:45 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 4:55 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 11:26 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 10:24 am, Noddy wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 9:36 am, keithr0 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2022 9:43 am, alvey wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Come to that, is anything that you claim true, as I previously
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggested, you could just as easily be an elderly lesbian
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> living on a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disability pension in Redbank Plains driving a '67 Corolla.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even the possibility that you don't exist at all and are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a sock puppet.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're a waste of time.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Game Over.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cop out.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You sound surprised. You didn't expect a genuine response, did
> >>>>>>>>>>>> you? This is Alvey you're talking to. The bloke who makes more
> >>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant noise than anyone but pisses himself and goes quiet
> >>>>>>>>>>>> once you put him on the spot.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> no liar. you're up to your usual tricks of snipping the context.
> >>>>>>>>>>> it was Keith who copped out. read the thread.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The alvey worshiper rides again.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> the juvenile nit-wit posts again. don't like the truth do you. you
> >>>>>>>>> have that in common with your new BFF the fraudster.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Truth hurts doesn't it felix.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> that was you. you're the one who copped out.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Your little mate was offered the chance of a face to face, but he was
> >>>>>> too scared to take it up. That's a cop-out.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> how far would he have to travel?
> >>>>>
> >>>> 10 Km maybe. Hardly a reason not to show.
> >>>
> >>> So because you won't answer questions relating to *public* comments you
> >>> made in a *public* newsgroup it's up to him to go out of his way to go
> >>> and see you for a private meeting for which you don't explain what purpose?
> >>>
> >>> And this seems reasonable to you does it?
> >>
> >> Probably. Given that keith seems to believe that the best way to get some
> >> face time with someone is to indulge in a flamme war with them. Or attempt
> >> to anyway.
> >
> > Flame war eh? Well you'd know something about that since it's only thing
> > that you've done here, You've provided no useful information not even
> > any pertinent questions.
> > If it come to discussing flaming, you certainly can't take the moral
> > high ground with calling people things like "Fraudster", "Der Der",
> > "Grubby", "Village idiot" etc etc.
> Could be worse keith. I could have made some boring posts about geriatric
> and insignificant aircraft...
~~~~
No, not a chance, too far removed from your skill set. (Whatever the fuck *that* may be
However, This is closest to the truth:) courtesy of Keith.

'Come to that, of anything that you suggested, you could just as easily be an elderly lesbian
living on a
disability pension in Redbank Plains driving a '67 Corolla. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is
even the possibility that you don't exist at all and are
just a sock puppet'..
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
All very believable...<FBG>
> alvey
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On Thursday, 20 January 2022 at 19:55:15 UTC+11, alvey wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 15:14:19 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>
> > On 20/01/2022 9:47 am, Xeno wrote:
> >> On 20/1/2022 9:02 am, keithr0 wrote:
> >>> On 20/01/2022 7:00 am, alvey wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 17:11:27 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 19/01/2022 8:13 am, alvey wrote:
> >>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 19:25:15 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 18/01/2022 6:19 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 18/01/2022 4:45 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 10:45 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 4:55 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 11:26 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 10:24 am, Noddy wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 9:36 am, keithr0 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2022 9:43 am, alvey wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Come to that, is anything that you claim true, as I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previously
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggested, you could just as easily be an elderly lesbian
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> living on a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disability pension in Redbank Plains driving a '67 Corolla.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even the possibility that you don't exist at all and are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sock puppet.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're a waste of time.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Game Over.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cop out.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You sound surprised. You didn't expect a genuine response, did
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> you? This is Alvey you're talking to. The bloke who makes more
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant noise than anyone but pisses himself and goes quiet
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> once you put him on the spot.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> no liar. you're up to your usual tricks of snipping the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> context. it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> was Keith who copped out. read the thread.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> The alvey worshiper rides again.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> the juvenile nit-wit posts again. don't like the truth do you. you
> >>>>>>>>>> have that in common with your new BFF the fraudster.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Truth hurts doesn't it felix.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> that was you. you're the one who copped out.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Your little mate was offered the chance of a face to face, but he was
> >>>>>>> too scared to take it up. That's a cop-out.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yep. Absolutely quaking in my thongs keith.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And pray tell, what exactly am I supposed to be scared of?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have no idea alvey you tell me.
> >>>>
> >>>> I can't imagine, that's why I was asking. Besides, I don't need to "tell
> >>>> you" keith. It was *you* who blurted, "Your little mate was offered the
> >>>> chance of a face to face, but he was too scared to take it up".
> >>>>
> >>>> As the question remains unanswered, it's another dismal cop out from
> >>>> keith.
> >>>
> >>> As I have said, I have no idea why you are scared of a face to face,
> >>> but the fact remains that you obviously are. It's another dismal cop
> >>> out from alvey aka the black knight.
> >>
> >> I invited you to drop in on your way past here some time ago. You didn't
> >> turn up at my door. Can I assume you too were scared of a face to face?
> >>
> >
> > I doubt keith is interested in facts and evidence and is just here to troll.
> Thanks for the warning. Do you know when he's going to start?
~~~~
Heckle and Jeckle. The blind leading the blind....Being trolled by windscreens O' ticky..
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On 20/01/2022 3:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 20/01/2022 2:24 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 20/01/2022 9:47 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 09:36:55 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 20/01/2022 9:18 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 20/01/2022 6:02 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 20/01/2022 7:00 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 17:11:27 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 19/01/2022 8:13 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 19:25:15 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 18/01/2022 6:19 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/01/2022 4:45 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 10:45 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 4:55 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 11:26 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 10:24 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 9:36 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2022 9:43 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Come to that, is anything that you claim true, as I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previously
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggested, you could just as easily be an elderly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lesbian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> living on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disability pension in Redbank Plains driving a '67
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Corolla.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even the possibility that you don't exist at all and are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sock puppet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're a waste of time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Game Over.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cop out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You sound surprised. You didn't expect a genuine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> response, did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you? This is Alvey you're talking to. The bloke who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant noise than anyone but pisses himself and goes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quiet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once you put him on the spot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no liar. you're up to your usual tricks of snipping the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> context. it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was Keith who copped out. read the thread.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The alvey worshiper rides again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the juvenile nit-wit posts again. don't like the truth do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you. you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have that in common with your new BFF the fraudster.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Truth hurts doesn't it felix.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> that was you. you're the one who copped out.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Your little mate was offered the chance of a face to face, but
>>>>>>>>>> he was
>>>>>>>>>> too scared to take it up. That's a cop-out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yep. Absolutely quaking in my thongs keith.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And pray tell, what exactly am I supposed to be scared of?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have no idea alvey you tell me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't imagine, that's why I was asking. Besides, I don't need
>>>>>>> to "tell
>>>>>>> you" keith. It was *you* who blurted, "Your little mate was
>>>>>>> offered the
>>>>>>> chance of a face to face, but he was too scared to take it up".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As the question remains unanswered, it's another dismal cop out from
>>>>>>> keith.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I have said, I have no idea why you are scared of a face to face,
>>>>>> but the fact remains that you obviously are.
>>>>>
>>>>> Illogical conclusion by any measure.
>>>>
>>>> What is illogical about it? I made an offer to meet him, he refuses for
>>>> reasons unexplained.
>>>
>>> Deliberately "unexplained" keith.
>>
>> It would hardly be accidental
>>
>> In your clichespeak it'd be, "beware of what you wish for".
>>
>> I wish for good health and peace for all mankind. So what should I
>> beware of?
>>
>
> You implied Alvey would be "too scared". "Too scared" of what keith?

Correction... you *stated* Alvey was too scared. "Too scared" of what keith?

On 20/01/2022 4:15 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:48:24 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>
>> On 19/01/2022 6:16 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 19/01/2022 1:46 am, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>>> The is a public forum, so answer them publicly. You expect answers to
>>>> your questions.
>>>
>>> In polite society, which you obviously aren't a member of, you ASK a
>>> question and an answer is requested not DEMANDED. You'd have made a good
>>> Gestapo interrogator "Answer ze question, ve haf ways to make you talk".
>>
>> Not just that, but if you ask a question and it becomes clear even to a
>> concrete statue that you're not going to get an answer, then continuing
>> to stamp your feet and ask the same question over and over does nothing
>> other than make you look like a complete moron :)
>
> Ooooh no it doesn't. It makes the person who refuses all requests to
> substantiate their claim a complete liar and fraud.
>
>
> alvey
>

Indeed it does.

On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 19:28:27 +1100, Yosemite Sam wrote:

> On 20/01/2022 6:10 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 20/01/2022 9:41 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 07:14:44 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 19/01/2022 3:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 18/01/2022 8:01 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>> On 18/01/2022 8:25 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 18/01/2022 6:19 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 18/01/2022 4:45 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 10:45 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 4:55 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 11:26 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 10:24 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 9:36 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2022 9:43 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Come to that, is anything that you claim true, as I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previously
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggested, you could just as easily be an elderly lesbian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> living on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disability pension in Redbank Plains driving a '67 Corolla.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even the possibility that you don't exist at all and are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a sock puppet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're a waste of time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Game Over.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cop out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You sound surprised. You didn't expect a genuine response, did
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you? This is Alvey you're talking to. The bloke who makes more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant noise than anyone but pisses himself and goes quiet
>>>>>>>>>>>>> once you put him on the spot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> no liar. you're up to your usual tricks of snipping the
>>>>>>>>>>>> context.
>>>>>>>>>>>> it was Keith who copped out. read the thread.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The alvey worshiper rides again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the juvenile nit-wit posts again. don't like the truth do you.
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> have that in common with your new BFF the fraudster.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Truth hurts doesn't it felix.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that was you. you're the one who copped out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your little mate was offered the chance of a face to face, but he
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> too scared to take it up. That's a cop-out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> how far would he have to travel?
>>>>>>
>>>>> 10 Km maybe. Hardly a reason not to show.
>>>>
>>>> So because you won't answer questions relating to *public* comments you
>>>> made in a *public* newsgroup it's up to him to go out of his way to go
>>>> and see you for a private meeting for which you don't explain what
>>>> purpose?
>>>>
>>>> And this seems reasonable to you does it?
>>>
>>> Probably. Given that keith seems to believe that the best way to get
>>> some
>>> face time with someone is to indulge in a flamme war with them. Or
>>> attempt
>>> to anyway.
>>
>> Flame war eh? Well you'd know something about that since it's only
>> thing that you've done here, You've provided no useful information not
>> even any pertinent questions.
>>
>> If it come to discussing flaming, you certainly can't take the moral
>> high ground with calling people things like "Fraudster", "Der Der",
>> "Grubby"
>
> hey, that was mine! I named him that after he stalked me trying to find
> my identity, and then cackled with glee when he found a video of some
> schoolteacher he thought was me, and posted it here. noddy jumped on the
> band wagon rubbishing me, and even told ppl on another ng I was an
> ex-schoolteacher.
>
>> , "Village idiot" etc etc.
>>
>
> lol! noddy named his latest protege that, when he wasn't so. now it
> seems jonz continually produces pearls of wisdom, lol

Accuracy isn't keith's forte. Like, "Fraudster" is fine because of the
Truth Defence.

alvey

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On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 19:39:04 +1100, Noddy wrote:

> On 20/01/2022 6:10 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 20/01/2022 9:41 am, alvey wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Probably. Given that keith seems to believe that the best way to get some
>>> face time with someone is to indulge in a flamme war with them. Or
>>> attempt
>>> to anyway.
>>
>> Flame war eh? Well you'd know something about that since it's only thing
>> that you've done here, You've provided no useful information not even
>> any pertinent questions.
>
> That's the only thing he's ever done since he blew in here from aus.tv
> or whatever other spastic group he came from,

lol!
If ever there was a "spastic group" this would be it. Aus.cars? Stone me!
Posts about actual cars are as rare as SloMo speaking sotto voce.
> and I'll happily bet my
> balls he's exactly the same in every other group he frequents and is
> about as popular in those as he is here.

Lol (again)
If you had balls Fraudster you wouldn't be cringing behind your porous
killfail. Buffoon.
> He's a juvenile attention whore. It's about quantity. Not quality.

Said Fraudster: The groups most prolific poster.
>
>> If it come to discussing flaming, you certainly can't take the moral
>> high ground with calling people things like "Fraudster", "Der Der",
>> "Grubby", "Village idiot" etc etc.
>
> He has the mental ability of a 12 year old. It's the same childish
> bullshit over over again day after day after day.

*Another* reference to a child Fraudster. You really should watch those...

alvey

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On 20/01/2022 4:39 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 20/01/2022 6:32 pm, alvey wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:41:55 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>> On 20/01/2022 11:37 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>> On 20/01/2022 9:50 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>> Yeah interesting. His memory of issues seems to be quite self
>>>> aggrandizing. His bullying and threats to me over the years have been
>>>> quite well documented in the group.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't share the photo of him that I found on facebook which was done
>>>> to me. I only ever shared information he himself had put on the
>>>> newsgroup. Yes he had shared his name here before. He conveniently
>>>> forgets that. He also constantly taunts me about having poor IT skills
>>>> because he found xeno's photo, but then accuses me of being a stalker.
>>>> Hmm HE found xeno's photo.... He states above I didn't share xeno's
>>>> history.... I wonder who is the stalker. He accuses others of the very
>>>> things he does himself.
>>> He does, and seemingly has no problem with it whenever he *does* do it
>>> himself. Like when he thought it was a great joke to help himself to my
>>> profile pic and upload it to some pisstake site for his own amusement,
>>> yet if you did the same thing to him you'd hear him crying about it for
>>> fucking *ages*.
>>>
>>> He just loves being a victim....
>> Ummmm Darren. You just pecked out a para of you playing the whining
>> victim.
>>
>>
>> alvey
>> Wondering what %age of the Fraudsters posts this year have been about
>> those
>> whose opinions he "couldn't care less about"? Must be >90%.
>>
>
> yes
>

....and continues if not increases whether the person responds or is even
in the group. He loves nothing more than to tell grander lies about
people who are no longer (here) defending themselves.

On 20/01/2022 5:59 am, keithr0 wrote:
> On 20/01/2022 7:39 am, Clocky wrote:
>> On 18/01/2022 5:22 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 18/01/2022 4:24 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 18/1/22 4:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 17/01/2022 9:34 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> After all, I said I was a *qualified mechanic*, I proved it. I
>>>>>> said I was a *TAFE teacher*, I proved that too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you? I don't remember seeing any proof.
>>>>
>>>> You weren't included in the initial viewing. Supply me with a valid
>>>> email addy and I might consider it.
>>>>
>>> Why not just put them up somewhere like  on dropbox and post a link
>>> so that everybody can see them?
>>
>>
>> Would you throw your whole life out into the open? You made comments
>> recently about safeguarding what you put out into the public.
>
> Throw your whole life out there? We're talking about a couple of
> qualifications. Xeno's name and address are common knowledge, what else
> are they likely to reveal?
>

Once it's out in the public... you said so yourself.

> Personally, I don't really care what qualifications he may or may not
> have, but he is repetitiously demanding that noddy reveal his so it
> would seem reasonable that he does what he demands of others.
>

He offered to show you. I don't have to show my qualifications to anyone
unless someone asks but that didn't stop someone stalking to find a
historical post not related to this group, use my name to find my
qualifications and post a link to it revealing my location and MR number
which were for *me* to divulge on request, not for some else to divulge
publicly for nefarious reasons.

> I'm happy to reveal my qualifications as a software engineer -
> absolutely none, but it didn't prevent me from a successful career at it.
>

So what? That was common back in the day but it's missing the point.
Did you ever *claim* to be a qualified knowing you weren't?

On Thursday, 20 January 2022 at 19:15:19 UTC+11, alvey wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:48:24 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>
> > On 19/01/2022 6:16 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> >> On 19/01/2022 1:46 am, Clocky wrote:
> >
> >>> The is a public forum, so answer them publicly. You expect answers to
> >>> your questions.
> >>
> >> In polite society, which you obviously aren't a member of, you ASK a
> >> question and an answer is requested not DEMANDED. You'd have made a good
> >> Gestapo interrogator "Answer ze question, ve haf ways to make you talk".
> >
> > Not just that, but if you ask a question and it becomes clear even to a
> > concrete statue that you're not going to get an answer, then continuing
> > to stamp your feet and ask the same question over and over does nothing
> > other than make you look like a complete moron :)
>
> Ooooh no it doesn't. It makes the person who refuses all requests to
> substantiate their claim a complete liar and fraud.
~~~~~~~~~~```
Nup ya weasel, Just proves yer a piss weak waste of space.
> alvey
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On Friday, 21 January 2022 at 00:51:54 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
> On 20/01/2022 3:13 pm, Clocky wrote:
> > On 20/01/2022 2:24 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> >> On 20/01/2022 9:47 am, alvey wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 09:36:55 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 20/01/2022 9:18 am, Clocky wrote:
> >>>>> On 20/01/2022 6:02 am, keithr0 wrote:
> >>>>>> On 20/01/2022 7:00 am, alvey wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 17:11:27 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 19/01/2022 8:13 am, alvey wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 19:25:15 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 18/01/2022 6:19 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 18/01/2022 4:45 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 10:45 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 4:55 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 11:26 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 10:24 am, Noddy wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 9:36 am, keithr0 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2022 9:43 am, alvey wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Come to that, is anything that you claim true, as I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previously
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggested, you could just as easily be an elderly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lesbian
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> living on a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disability pension in Redbank Plains driving a '67
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Corolla.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even the possibility that you don't exist at all and are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sock puppet.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're a waste of time.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Game Over.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cop out.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You sound surprised. You didn't expect a genuine
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> response, did
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you? This is Alvey you're talking to. The bloke who
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes more
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant noise than anyone but pisses himself and goes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quiet
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once you put him on the spot.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no liar. you're up to your usual tricks of snipping the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> context. it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was Keith who copped out. read the thread.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The alvey worshiper rides again.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the juvenile nit-wit posts again. don't like the truth do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> you. you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> have that in common with your new BFF the fraudster.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Truth hurts doesn't it felix.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> that was you. you're the one who copped out.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Your little mate was offered the chance of a face to face, but
> >>>>>>>>>> he was
> >>>>>>>>>> too scared to take it up. That's a cop-out.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Yep. Absolutely quaking in my thongs keith.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And pray tell, what exactly am I supposed to be scared of?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I have no idea alvey you tell me.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I can't imagine, that's why I was asking. Besides, I don't need
> >>>>>>> to "tell
> >>>>>>> you" keith. It was *you* who blurted, "Your little mate was
> >>>>>>> offered the
> >>>>>>> chance of a face to face, but he was too scared to take it up".
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> As the question remains unanswered, it's another dismal cop out from
> >>>>>>> keith.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> As I have said, I have no idea why you are scared of a face to face,
> >>>>>> but the fact remains that you obviously are.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Illogical conclusion by any measure.
> >>>>
> >>>> What is illogical about it? I made an offer to meet him, he refuses for
> >>>> reasons unexplained.
> >>>
> >>> Deliberately "unexplained" keith.
> >>
> >> It would hardly be accidental
> >>
> >> In your clichespeak it'd be, "beware of what you wish for".
> >>
> >> I wish for good health and peace for all mankind. So what should I
> >> beware of?
> >>
> >
> > You implied Alvey would be "too scared". "Too scared" of what keith?
>
> Correction... you *stated* Alvey was too scared. "Too scared" of what keith?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
keyboard cowgirls are scared of the real world/ppl. Scared they might be offered some home truths.

On 21/1/2022 8:58 am, Clocky wrote:
> On 20/01/2022 5:59 am, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 20/01/2022 7:39 am, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 18/01/2022 5:22 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 18/01/2022 4:24 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 18/1/22 4:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 9:34 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After all, I said I was a *qualified mechanic*, I proved it. I
>>>>>>> said I was a *TAFE teacher*, I proved that too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you? I don't remember seeing any proof.
>>>>>
>>>>> You weren't included in the initial viewing. Supply me with a valid
>>>>> email addy and I might consider it.
>>>>>
>>>> Why not just put them up somewhere like  on dropbox and post a link
>>>> so that everybody can see them?
>>>
>>>
>>> Would you throw your whole life out into the open? You made comments
>>> recently about safeguarding what you put out into the public.
>>
>> Throw your whole life out there? We're talking about a couple of
>> qualifications. Xeno's name and address are common knowledge, what
>> else are they likely to reveal?
>>
>
> Once it's out in the public... you said so yourself.
>
>> Personally, I don't really care what qualifications he may or may not
>> have, but he is repetitiously demanding that noddy reveal his so it
>> would seem reasonable that he does what he demands of others.
>>
>
> He offered to show you. I don't have to show my qualifications to anyone
> unless someone asks but that didn't stop someone stalking to find a
> historical post not related to this group, use my name to find my
> qualifications and post a link to it revealing my location and MR number
> which were for *me* to divulge on request, not for some else to divulge
> publicly for nefarious reasons.
>
>> I'm happy to reveal my qualifications as a software engineer -
>> absolutely none, but it didn't prevent me from a successful career at it.
>>
>
> So what? That was common back in the day but it's missing the point.
> Did you ever *claim* to be a qualified knowing you weren't?

And therein lies the crux of the matter. Not only did Darren claim to be
qualified when he is obviously not, his grandiosity took over and he
claimed 3 apprenticeships and 2 trade qualifications. Darren's also a
firm believer in the *illusory truth effect* whereby if you tell a lie
big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe
it. Darren appears to be the poster child for this effect.

Anyone capable of a modicum of critical analysis should be able to see
through Darren's bullshit and lies. All Darren is capable of doing is
muddying the water with projection and distraction.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 21/1/2022 8:30 am, Clocky wrote:
> On 20/01/2022 4:39 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 20/01/2022 6:32 pm, alvey wrote:
>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:41:55 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 20/01/2022 11:37 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>> On 20/01/2022 9:50 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>>> Yeah interesting. His memory of issues seems to be quite self
>>>>> aggrandizing. His bullying and threats to me over the years have been
>>>>> quite well documented in the group.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't share the photo of him that I found on facebook which was
>>>>> done
>>>>> to me. I only ever shared information he himself had put on the
>>>>> newsgroup. Yes he had shared his name here before. He conveniently
>>>>> forgets that. He also constantly taunts me about having poor IT skills
>>>>> because he found xeno's photo, but then accuses me of being a stalker.
>>>>> Hmm HE found xeno's photo.... He states above I didn't share xeno's
>>>>> history.... I wonder who is the stalker. He accuses others of the very
>>>>> things he does himself.
>>>> He does, and seemingly has no problem with it whenever he *does* do it
>>>> himself. Like when he thought it was a great joke to help himself to my
>>>> profile pic and upload it to some pisstake site for his own amusement,
>>>> yet if you did the same thing to him you'd hear him crying about it for
>>>> fucking *ages*.
>>>>
>>>> He just loves being a victim....
>>> Ummmm Darren. You just pecked out a para of you playing the whining
>>> victim.
>>>
>>>
>>> alvey
>>> Wondering what %age of the Fraudsters posts this year have been about
>>> those
>>> whose opinions he "couldn't care less about"? Must be >90%.
>>>
>>
>> yes
>>
>
> ...and continues if not increases whether the person responds or is even
> in the group. He loves nothing more than to tell grander lies about
> people who are no longer (here) defending themselves.

You've noticed that too, huh?

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 21/01/2022 8:19 am, Xeno wrote:
> On 21/1/2022 8:58 am, Clocky wrote:
>> On 20/01/2022 5:59 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 20/01/2022 7:39 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 18/01/2022 5:22 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 18/01/2022 4:24 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 18/1/22 4:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 9:34 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After all, I said I was a *qualified mechanic*, I proved it. I
>>>>>>>> said I was a *TAFE teacher*, I proved that too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you? I don't remember seeing any proof.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You weren't included in the initial viewing. Supply me with a
>>>>>> valid email addy and I might consider it.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Why not just put them up somewhere like  on dropbox and post a link
>>>>> so that everybody can see them?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Would you throw your whole life out into the open? You made comments
>>>> recently about safeguarding what you put out into the public.
>>>
>>> Throw your whole life out there? We're talking about a couple of
>>> qualifications. Xeno's name and address are common knowledge, what
>>> else are they likely to reveal?
>>>
>>
>> Once it's out in the public... you said so yourself.
>>
>>> Personally, I don't really care what qualifications he may or may not
>>> have, but he is repetitiously demanding that noddy reveal his so it
>>> would seem reasonable that he does what he demands of others.
>>>
>>
>> He offered to show you. I don't have to show my qualifications to
>> anyone unless someone asks but that didn't stop someone stalking to
>> find a historical post not related to this group, use my name to find
>> my qualifications and post a link to it revealing my location and MR
>> number which were for *me* to divulge on request, not for some else to
>> divulge publicly for nefarious reasons.
>>
>>> I'm happy to reveal my qualifications as a software engineer -
>>> absolutely none, but it didn't prevent me from a successful career at
>>> it.
>>>
>>
>> So what? That was common back in the day but it's missing the point.
>> Did you ever *claim* to be a qualified knowing you weren't?
>
> And therein lies the crux of the matter. Not only did Darren claim to be
> qualified when he is obviously not, his grandiosity took over and he
> claimed 3 apprenticeships and 2 trade qualifications. Darren's also a
> firm believer in the *illusory truth effect* whereby if you tell a lie
> big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe
> it. Darren appears to be the poster child for this effect.
>
> Anyone capable of a modicum of critical analysis should be able to see
> through Darren's bullshit and lies. All Darren is capable of doing is
> muddying the water with projection and distraction.
>

It's been his standard MO for decades. It's no coincidence that all the
posters incapable of critical thought are all on team FLCJC.

On 21/1/2022 12:03 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 21/01/2022 8:19 am, Xeno wrote:
>> On 21/1/2022 8:58 am, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 20/01/2022 5:59 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 20/01/2022 7:39 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 18/01/2022 5:22 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 18/01/2022 4:24 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>> On 18/1/22 4:50 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 9:34 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After all, I said I was a *qualified mechanic*, I proved it. I
>>>>>>>>> said I was a *TAFE teacher*, I proved that too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did you? I don't remember seeing any proof.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You weren't included in the initial viewing. Supply me with a
>>>>>>> valid email addy and I might consider it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not just put them up somewhere like  on dropbox and post a
>>>>>> link so that everybody can see them?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you throw your whole life out into the open? You made
>>>>> comments recently about safeguarding what you put out into the public.
>>>>
>>>> Throw your whole life out there? We're talking about a couple of
>>>> qualifications. Xeno's name and address are common knowledge, what
>>>> else are they likely to reveal?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Once it's out in the public... you said so yourself.
>>>
>>>> Personally, I don't really care what qualifications he may or may
>>>> not have, but he is repetitiously demanding that noddy reveal his so
>>>> it would seem reasonable that he does what he demands of others.
>>>>
>>>
>>> He offered to show you. I don't have to show my qualifications to
>>> anyone unless someone asks but that didn't stop someone stalking to
>>> find a historical post not related to this group, use my name to find
>>> my qualifications and post a link to it revealing my location and MR
>>> number which were for *me* to divulge on request, not for some else
>>> to divulge publicly for nefarious reasons.
>>>
>>>> I'm happy to reveal my qualifications as a software engineer -
>>>> absolutely none, but it didn't prevent me from a successful career
>>>> at it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So what? That was common back in the day but it's missing the point.
>>> Did you ever *claim* to be a qualified knowing you weren't?
>>
>> And therein lies the crux of the matter. Not only did Darren claim to
>> be qualified when he is obviously not, his grandiosity took over and
>> he claimed 3 apprenticeships and 2 trade qualifications. Darren's also
>> a firm believer in the *illusory truth effect* whereby if you tell a
>> lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to
>> believe it. Darren appears to be the poster child for this effect.
>>
>> Anyone capable of a modicum of critical analysis should be able to see
>> through Darren's bullshit and lies. All Darren is capable of doing is
>> muddying the water with projection and distraction.
>>
>
> It's been his standard MO for decades. It's no coincidence that all the
> posters incapable of critical thought are all on team FLCJC.
>
Team FLCJC, what a pack of losers!

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 21/01/2022 10:44 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Thursday, 20 January 2022 at 19:15:19 UTC+11, alvey wrote:

>>> Not just that, but if you ask a question and it becomes clear even to a
>>> concrete statue that you're not going to get an answer, then continuing
>>> to stamp your feet and ask the same question over and over does nothing
>>> other than make you look like a complete moron :)
>>
>> Ooooh no it doesn't. It makes the person who refuses all requests to
>> substantiate their claim a complete liar and fraud.
> ~~~~~~~~~~```
> Nup ya weasel, Just proves yer a piss weak waste of space.
>> alvey

I'm not quite sure how someone not answering a question makes them a
"complete liar and fraud", but then there's a lot that goes on in
Alvey's head that's a bit NQR.

He can be in denial as much as he likes, but repeatedly asking the same
question over and over is about as mental as eating your own shit and
complaining about the taste.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 21/01/2022 7:14 am, alvey wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 19:28:27 +1100, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>> On 20/01/2022 6:10 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 20/01/2022 9:41 am, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 07:14:44 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 19/01/2022 3:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 18/01/2022 8:01 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>> On 18/01/2022 8:25 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 18/01/2022 6:19 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 18/01/2022 4:45 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 10:45 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 4:55 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 11:26 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 10:24 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 9:36 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 14/01/2022 9:43 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Come to that, is anything that you claim true, as I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previously
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggested, you could just as easily be an elderly lesbian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> living on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disability pension in Redbank Plains driving a '67 Corolla.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even the possibility that you don't exist at all and are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a sock puppet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're a waste of time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Game Over.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cop out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You sound surprised. You didn't expect a genuine response, did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you? This is Alvey you're talking to. The bloke who makes more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant noise than anyone but pisses himself and goes quiet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once you put him on the spot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> no liar. you're up to your usual tricks of snipping the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> context.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it was Keith who copped out. read the thread.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The alvey worshiper rides again.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the juvenile nit-wit posts again. don't like the truth do you.
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> have that in common with your new BFF the fraudster.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Truth hurts doesn't it felix.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that was you. you're the one who copped out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your little mate was offered the chance of a face to face, but he
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> too scared to take it up. That's a cop-out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> how far would he have to travel?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 10 Km maybe. Hardly a reason not to show.
>>>>> So because you won't answer questions relating to *public* comments you
>>>>> made in a *public* newsgroup it's up to him to go out of his way to go
>>>>> and see you for a private meeting for which you don't explain what
>>>>> purpose?
>>>>>
>>>>> And this seems reasonable to you does it?
>>>> Probably. Given that keith seems to believe that the best way to get
>>>> some
>>>> face time with someone is to indulge in a flamme war with them. Or
>>>> attempt
>>>> to anyway.
>>> Flame war eh? Well you'd know something about that since it's only
>>> thing that you've done here, You've provided no useful information not
>>> even any pertinent questions.
>>>
>>> If it come to discussing flaming, you certainly can't take the moral
>>> high ground with calling people things like "Fraudster", "Der Der",
>>> "Grubby"
>> hey, that was mine! I named him that after he stalked me trying to find
>> my identity, and then cackled with glee when he found a video of some
>> schoolteacher he thought was me, and posted it here. noddy jumped on the
>> band wagon rubbishing me, and even told ppl on another ng I was an
>> ex-schoolteacher.
>>
>>> , "Village idiot" etc etc.
>>>
>> lol! noddy named his latest protege that, when he wasn't so. now it
>> seems jonz continually produces pearls of wisdom, lol
> Accuracy isn't keith's forte. Like, "Fraudster" is fine because of the
> Truth Defence.

of course it is. it's appropriate, as is liar. and nothing wrong with
"Der Der" either. it's just a play on the name. I call jonz jonzie,
lindsay loonsey, etc.,

>
>
> alvey
>

--
"his opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster

On 20/01/2022 6:52 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 20/01/2022 3:32 pm, alvey wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:41:55 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>> On 20/01/2022 11:37 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>> On 20/01/2022 9:50 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah interesting. His memory of issues seems to be quite self
>>>> aggrandizing. His bullying and threats to me over the years have been
>>>> quite well documented in the group.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't share the photo of him that I found on facebook which was
>>>> done
>>>> to me. I only ever shared information he himself had put on the
>>>> newsgroup. Yes he had shared his name here before. He conveniently
>>>> forgets that. He also constantly taunts me about having poor IT skills
>>>> because he found xeno's photo, but then accuses me of being a stalker.
>>>> Hmm HE found xeno's photo.... He states above I didn't share xeno's
>>>> history.... I wonder who is the stalker. He accuses others of the very
>>>> things he does himself.
>>>
>>> He does, and seemingly has no problem with it whenever he *does* do it
>>> himself. Like when he thought it was a great joke to help himself to my
>>> profile pic and upload it to some pisstake site for his own amusement,
>>> yet if you did the same thing to him you'd hear him crying about it for
>>> fucking *ages*.
>>>
>>> He just loves being a victim....
>>
>> Ummmm Darren. You just pecked out a para of you playing the whining
>> victim.
>>
>
> Hasn't he just.
>
> Posting his facebook *public* profile pic that *he* posted online but
> was shared by someone else *here* is a whole different matter to
> stalking and snooping to find information not made public here and
> posting it here.

like when he thought he knew where I lived and posted the address even
the google map view

> There is a *very* clear distinction.
>
>
>

--
"his opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster

On 20/01/2022 6:56 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 13:47:28 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>
>> On 20/01/2022 8:59 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 20/01/2022 7:39 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>> Would you throw your whole life out into the open? You made comments
>>>> recently about safeguarding what you put out into the public.
>>> Throw your whole life out there? We're talking about a couple of
>>> qualifications. Xeno's name and address are common knowledge, what else
>>> are they likely to reveal?
>>>
>>> Personally, I don't really care what qualifications he may or may not
>>> have, but he is repetitiously demanding that noddy reveal his so it
>>> would seem reasonable that he does what he demands of others.
>> A more important, and often overlooked point, is why these cretins think
>> they have a *right* to my personal information. Clasener and Jerkoff
>> volunteered their information without anyone asking for it or giving a
>> fuck about it to be honest, and *now* they're of the misguided belief
>> that because they've laid themselves bare (to a select few people) that
>> I have some obligation to hand over anything they want about myself.
> There's more than just a whiff of madness in Der Der's posts today.
>
> Right. So let's get back to simple reality.
>
> You've made a number of claims Gibbens which a number of people have
> doubted. You have been asked, as is the norm, to substantiate these claims.
> You haven't. This is incriminating enough, but then add in the frequently
> documented and undeniable proof of you stating the exact opposite to your
> current position and you now look not just guilty of being a lying fraud,
> but guilty of being a monumental hypocrite *and* a lying fraud.
>
> snip dribble
>
> In your own words Hypocrite.
>
> “The *only* person doing the squirming here is the person who refuses to
> lift a finger to prove his *own* claims.” Fraudster, 04Mar18
>
> "I'm not the one making any claims here, dickhead. You're doing all the
> claiming around here, and you get to prove it." Fraudster, 02Jun17
>
> “At the end of the day it is Oz and Oz alone who makes the claims about
> himself, and the onus to prove them rests with him. Doing so would be such
> a simple affair and it would shut up every single one of his detractors
> around here for good, but that's *not* what he wants. He craves attention,
> and as long as he does all you'll keep hearing from him is unconfirmed
> fantasy and fairytales.” Fraudster, 21/12/07
>

that last para sounds as if someone was talking about Darren!

>
>
> alvey
>
>
>

--
"his opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster

On 21/01/2022 12:31 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 21/01/2022 10:44 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, 20 January 2022 at 19:15:19 UTC+11, alvey wrote:
>
>>>> Not just that, but if you ask a question and it becomes clear even
>>>> to a
>>>> concrete statue that you're not going to get an answer, then
>>>> continuing
>>>> to stamp your feet and ask the same question over and over does
>>>> nothing
>>>> other than make you look like a complete moron :)
>>>
>>> Ooooh no it doesn't. It makes the person who refuses all requests to
>>> substantiate their claim a complete liar and fraud.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~```
>> Nup ya weasel, Just proves yer a piss weak waste of space.
>>> alvey
>
> I'm not quite sure how someone not answering a question makes them a
> "complete liar and fraud",

it's circumstantial evidence that they're unable to prove their claim.
ie. lying

--
"his opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster

On 21/1/2022 12:31 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 21/01/2022 10:44 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, 20 January 2022 at 19:15:19 UTC+11, alvey wrote:
>
>>>> Not just that, but if you ask a question and it becomes clear even to a
>>>> concrete statue that you're not going to get an answer, then continuing
>>>> to stamp your feet and ask the same question over and over does nothing
>>>> other than make you look like a complete moron :)
>>>
>>> Ooooh no it doesn't. It makes the person who refuses all requests to
>>> substantiate their claim a complete liar and fraud.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~```
>> Nup ya weasel, Just proves yer a piss weak waste of space.
>>> alvey
>
> I'm not quite sure how someone not answering a question makes them a
> "complete liar and fraud", but then there's a lot that goes on in
> Alvey's head that's a bit NQR.

An example, when the questioner asks you to *substantiate your claims*,
claims that are known and proven to be lies, then, yes, by not answering
the question, you most certainly are *confirming* that you are a liar
and fraud. You see, had you *real evidence* of your claims, it would be
easy to prove their veracity. That you have nothing to offer up in
support of your claims, well, it says it all really.

You would dearly love to shoot me down in flames, wouldn't you Darren?
Such a pity that your claims would need, firstly, to be true and,
secondly, there exist *tangible* evidence of said claims. Such a pity
(for you) that *my claims* are true and I have such tangible evidence of
my claims.

The ball is in your court Darren.
>
> He can be in denial as much as he likes, but repeatedly asking the same
> question over and over is about as mental as eating your own shit and
> complaining about the taste.
>
You have some weird shit running through your mind Darren, the above
being the perfect example.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 21/1/2022 1:06 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 21/01/2022 12:31 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 21/01/2022 10:44 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 20 January 2022 at 19:15:19 UTC+11, alvey wrote:
>>
>>>>> Not just that, but if you ask a question and it becomes clear even
>>>>> to a
>>>>> concrete statue that you're not going to get an answer, then
>>>>> continuing
>>>>> to stamp your feet and ask the same question over and over does
>>>>> nothing
>>>>> other than make you look like a complete moron :)
>>>>
>>>> Ooooh no it doesn't. It makes the person who refuses all requests to
>>>> substantiate their claim a complete liar and fraud.
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~```
>>> Nup ya weasel, Just proves yer a piss weak waste of space.
>>>> alvey
>>
>> I'm not quite sure how someone not answering a question makes them a
>> "complete liar and fraud",
>
>
> it's circumstantial evidence that they're unable to prove their claim.
> ie. lying
>
Yep. A *verified* trade registration number would be considered
undeniable *concrete evidence*. It would be the *most conclusive* thing
needed to prove Darren's claims and he should have, according to his
claims, 2 of those. No such number on the trade registration database
nor at PROV that is linked to Darren's name. Only 4 people on the list
with the surname Gibbens, one a female, and none with a first name of
Darren. Darren's seeming reluctance to provide a number is *shouting
from the rooftops* that he has no such number. Says it all really.

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On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 12:31:38 +1100, Noddy wrote:

> On 21/01/2022 10:44 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, 20 January 2022 at 19:15:19 UTC+11, alvey wrote:
>
>>>> Not just that, but if you ask a question and it becomes clear even to a
>>>> concrete statue that you're not going to get an answer, then continuing
>>>> to stamp your feet and ask the same question over and over does nothing
>>>> other than make you look like a complete moron :)
>>>
>>> Ooooh no it doesn't. It makes the person who refuses all requests to
>>> substantiate their claim a complete liar and fraud.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~```
>> Nup ya weasel, Just proves yer a piss weak waste of space.
>>> alvey
>
> I'm not quite sure how someone not answering a question makes them a
> "complete liar and fraud", but then there's a lot that goes on in
> Alvey's head that's a bit NQR.
>
> He can be in denial as much as he likes, but repeatedly asking the same
> question over and over is about as mental as eating your own shit and
> complaining about the taste.

It won't matter how many cretinous, schoolboy insults you plop out
Fraudster, facts will smash you every-single-time.

Facts like...
'NA of A' is only (relevantly) registered from 1993-96.
Its business address for that period is listed as your parents residence.

You are a liar, fraud, hypocrite and coward Gibbens. These are also facts,
but if you believe any or all of them *not* to be, then do feel free to
stop being a snivelling, whiney poltroon and step out to debate them.

ps. I'll cater the food and drink. And of course the cleaners to mop up
your remains.

alvey
"You don't have to do *anything* other than let this half smart have his
head and he'll make a complete fucking mental case out of himself as his
ego is *way* bigger than his intellectual capacity as we have seen".
Fraudster

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On 21/01/2022 9:51 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 20/01/2022 6:52 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 20/01/2022 3:32 pm, alvey wrote:
>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:41:55 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 20/01/2022 11:37 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>> On 20/01/2022 9:50 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah interesting. His memory of issues seems to be quite self
>>>>> aggrandizing. His bullying and threats to me over the years have been
>>>>> quite well documented in the group.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't share the photo of him that I found on facebook which was
>>>>> done
>>>>> to me. I only ever shared information he himself had put on the
>>>>> newsgroup. Yes he had shared his name here before. He conveniently
>>>>> forgets that. He also constantly taunts me about having poor IT skills
>>>>> because he found xeno's photo, but then accuses me of being a stalker.
>>>>> Hmm HE found xeno's photo.... He states above I didn't share xeno's
>>>>> history.... I wonder who is the stalker. He accuses others of the very
>>>>> things he does himself.
>>>>
>>>> He does, and seemingly has no problem with it whenever he *does* do it
>>>> himself. Like when he thought it was a great joke to help himself to my
>>>> profile pic and upload it to some pisstake site for his own amusement,
>>>> yet if you did the same thing to him you'd hear him crying about it for
>>>> fucking *ages*.
>>>>
>>>> He just loves being a victim....
>>>
>>> Ummmm Darren. You just pecked out a para of you playing the whining
>>> victim.
>>>
>>
>> Hasn't he just.
>>
>> Posting his facebook *public* profile pic that *he* posted online but
>> was shared by someone else *here* is a whole different matter to
>> stalking and snooping to find information not made public here and
>> posting it here.
>
>
> like when he thought he knew where I lived and posted the address even
> the google map view
>
>

What about posting your video and name here which wasn't you but some
random. I wonder how that person in the video identified by name would
feel about that, having his name cybersmeared publicly by people he
doesn't even know...

>> There is a *very* clear distinction.
>>
>>
>>
>

On 21/01/2022 1:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 21/01/2022 9:51 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 20/01/2022 6:52 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 20/01/2022 3:32 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:41:55 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 20/01/2022 11:37 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>>> On 20/01/2022 9:50 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah interesting. His memory of issues seems to be quite self
>>>>>> aggrandizing. His bullying and threats to me over the years have
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> quite well documented in the group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't share the photo of him that I found on facebook which
>>>>>> was done
>>>>>> to me. I only ever shared information he himself had put on the
>>>>>> newsgroup. Yes he had shared his name here before. He conveniently
>>>>>> forgets that. He also constantly taunts me about having poor IT
>>>>>> skills
>>>>>> because he found xeno's photo, but then accuses me of being a
>>>>>> stalker.
>>>>>> Hmm HE found xeno's photo.... He states above I didn't share xeno's
>>>>>> history.... I wonder who is the stalker. He accuses others of the
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> things he does himself.
>>>>>
>>>>> He does, and seemingly has no problem with it whenever he *does*
>>>>> do it
>>>>> himself. Like when he thought it was a great joke to help himself
>>>>> to my
>>>>> profile pic and upload it to some pisstake site for his own
>>>>> amusement,
>>>>> yet if you did the same thing to him you'd hear him crying about
>>>>> it for
>>>>> fucking *ages*.
>>>>>
>>>>> He just loves being a victim....
>>>>
>>>> Ummmm Darren. You just pecked out a para of you playing the whining
>>>> victim.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hasn't he just.
>>>
>>> Posting his facebook *public* profile pic that *he* posted online
>>> but was shared by someone else *here* is a whole different matter to
>>> stalking and snooping to find information not made public here and
>>> posting it here.
>>
>>
>> like when he thought he knew where I lived and posted the address
>> even the google map view
>>
>>
>
> What about posting your video and name here which wasn't you but some
> random. I wonder how that person in the video identified by name would
> feel about that, having his name cybersmeared publicly by people he
> doesn't even know...

yes, I mentioned that just recently but it was grubby who did that

>
>>> There is a *very* clear distinction.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>

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On 19/01/2022 6:21 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 19/01/2022 8:21 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 19:27:04 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>
>>> On 18/01/2022 5:51 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 15:43:49 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 18/01/2022 7:22 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 21:43:46 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 8:23 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2022 6:32 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just come round to the Queensland Air Museum Pathfinder Drive
>>>>>>>>> Caloundra
>>>>>>>>>> tomorrow or Wednesday and maybe we can see what can be
>>>>>>>>>> answered. Museum
>>>>>>>>>> opens at 10am, and I'm there until 2pm  - CU there.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You're just being silly now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wasn't holding my breath, I didn't think that you'd have the
>>>>>>>> guts to
>>>>>>>> show your face.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wonder what it is that alvey needs to keep so mysterious.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That he's a little wimp who only has lots to mouth off about
>>>>>>> when he can
>>>>>>> hide behind his nym on the internet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Said *Noddy*. From behind his mighty (snigger) killfail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You do say some magnificently stupid things Fraudster. Ashley,
>>>>>> you say *a
>>>>>> lot* of stupid things.
>>>>>
>>>>> Said brave little alvey for whom the real world is just a step too
>>>>> far.
>>>>
>>>> Well that's your version of "reality" keith. In my version people give
>>>> straight answers to simple, valid questions.
>>>
>>> Seeing people face to face not sniping from behind  a 'nym.
>>
>> Hahahahhahahaha. Oh. You're serious.
>>
>> Why on earth would anyone want to meet someone that they don't rate? Do
>> they magically change persona or something?
>
> To see what a person is really like. I have met several people in
> person who were quite different from their internet personality.
>
>> Look *keithr0*, which I'm guessing isn't your real name, I know you're
>> desperate, but this is just plain silly.
>
> My name is Keith, my surname begins with R, and the zero
> differentiates me from all the other keithrs out there.
>
> It's a bit different from calling yourself something stupid like
> "Yosemite sam"
>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAwu30MWHH8

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