On 13/01/2022 5:10 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 13/01/2022 3:44 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 13/01/2022 11:21 am, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 12/01/2022 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 10/01/2022 3:27 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 10/01/2022 11:02 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 9:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 3:14 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 14:22:49 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 10:11 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/22 11:07 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 11:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 8:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, she rules the roost and you cringe and cower. I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> see how
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would work for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you actively sit at the keyboard waiting for something to
>>>>>>>>>>>> sling a
>>>>>>>>>>>> tired insult at? The evidence seems to indicate that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He has very little else to do with his miserable life, other
>>>>>>>>>>> than sit
>>>>>>>>>>> around waiting for his heart to stop.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You really are pissed off being exposed as a faker, eh?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> QED
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the
>>>>>>>> Fraudster is a
>>>>>>>> fraud have been proven?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keith's FLCJC membership must have been approved...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ROTFL, if you're not with us you must be against us eh? That is a
>>>>>> pathetic philosophy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the Fraudster
>>>>> is a fraud have been proven?
>>>>
>>>> I'm saying that if you're not with us you must be against us is a
>>>
>>> Copout!
>>>
>>> Answer the question.
>>>
>>>
>> With respect SIR, I decline your demand on this occasion since it has
>> been adequately answered elsewhere. So, with all due respect, you can
>> just go and fuck yourself.
>
>
> so IOW you would rather align yourself with the fraudster than retain
> any semblance of honesty, integrity, and decency you may once have had.
> duly noted then.
>
I don't align myself with anybody, but, right at the moment he isn't as
annoying as the little group polluting the place with reams of
repetitive shit. You and your little mates need to wake up to yourselves
and realise that you are achieving absolutely nothing, except to wreck
what could be an interesting and useful forum. I'm not holding my breath
though, your common mental condition is not going to cure itself in the
short term if at all ever.

On 13/01/2022 5:15 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 13/01/2022 4:09 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 13/01/2022 12:44 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 13/01/2022 11:21 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 12/01/2022 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 10/01/2022 3:27 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/01/2022 11:02 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 9:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 3:14 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 14:22:49 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 10:11 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/22 11:07 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 11:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 8:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, she rules the roost and you cringe and cower. I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would work for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you actively sit at the keyboard waiting for something
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to sling a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tired insult at? The evidence seems to indicate that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He has very little else to do with his miserable life, other
>>>>>>>>>>>> than sit
>>>>>>>>>>>> around waiting for his heart to stop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You really are pissed off being exposed as a faker, eh?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> QED
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the
>>>>>>>>> Fraudster is a
>>>>>>>>> fraud have been proven?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Keith's FLCJC membership must have been approved...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ROTFL, if you're not with us you must be against us eh? That is a
>>>>>>> pathetic philosophy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the Fraudster
>>>>>> is a fraud have been proven?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm saying that if you're not with us you must be against us is a
>>>>
>>>> Copout!
>>>>
>>>> Answer the question.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> With respect SIR, I decline your demand on this occasion since it has
>>> been adequately answered elsewhere.
>>
>> ...and yet another pathetic juvenile cop-out.
>>
>> Easy to see why the fraud has been hot on your tail chasing you around
>> with his rubber stamp for weeks.
>
>
> LOL. yes indeed..

Have you ever had an original thought? It seems like you have to wait
around for something to agree to.

On 11/01/2022 7:04 am, alvey wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 20:36:18 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>
>> On 10/01/2022 5:47 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 10/01/2022 6:03 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 10/01/2022 5:09 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>> On 10/01/2022 3:03 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/01/2022 2:22 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>> Or have a clue either way, and Felix is the last person who should
>>>>>>> be commenting about this as he's guilty himself of using other
>>>>>>> people's photos for his own advantage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> who's photos have I used for my own advantage? put up or shut up.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I seem to recall having you issued with a takedown notice for a photo
>>>>> you took of mine and posted on your own website. Remember that?
>>>>
>>>> oh yes. but what 'advantage' did I receive from that?
>>> Making yourself look big around here with your mates
>>>
>> If that was his aim it didn't work.
> Can't stand him myself.
>

it's unclear to whom you refer

--
"his opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster

On 13/01/2022 6:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 13/01/2022 3:10 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 13/01/2022 3:44 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 13/01/2022 11:21 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 12/01/2022 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 10/01/2022 3:27 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/01/2022 11:02 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 9:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 3:14 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 14:22:49 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 10:11 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/22 11:07 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 11:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 8:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, she rules the roost and you cringe and cower. I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would work for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you actively sit at the keyboard waiting for something
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to sling a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tired insult at? The evidence seems to indicate that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He has very little else to do with his miserable life,
>>>>>>>>>>>> other than sit
>>>>>>>>>>>> around waiting for his heart to stop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You really are pissed off being exposed as a faker, eh?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> QED
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the
>>>>>>>>> Fraudster is a
>>>>>>>>> fraud have been proven?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Keith's FLCJC membership must have been approved...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ROTFL, if you're not with us you must be against us eh? That is
>>>>>>> a pathetic philosophy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the
>>>>>> Fraudster is a fraud have been proven?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm saying that if you're not with us you must be against us is a
>>>>
>>>> Copout!
>>>>
>>>> Answer the question.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> With respect SIR, I decline your demand on this occasion since it
>>> has been adequately answered elsewhere. So, with all due respect,
>>> you can just go and fuck yourself.
>>
>>
>> so IOW you would rather align yourself with the fraudster than retain
>> any semblance of honesty, integrity, and decency you may once have
>> had. duly noted then.
>>
>
> He asks a lot of questions for a bloke who dodges answering them. At
> least we now know what he considers to be the acceptable response to
> his questions.
>
>

hmmmm. we could answer any of his questions with the acronym JGAFY then.  :)

--
"his opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster

On 13/01/2022 2:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 12/01/2022 3:02 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 10/01/2022 6:03 pm, alvey wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 13:02:38 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/01/2022 9:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 9/01/2022 3:14 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 14:22:49 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 10:11 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/1/22 11:07 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 11:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 8:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, she rules the roost and you cringe and cower. I can see
>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>> that would work for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do you actively sit at the keyboard waiting for something to
>>>>>>>>>> sling a
>>>>>>>>>> tired insult at? The evidence seems to indicate that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He has very little else to do with his miserable life, other
>>>>>>>>> than sit
>>>>>>>>> around waiting for his heart to stop.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You really are pissed off being exposed as a faker, eh?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> QED
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the Fraudster
>>>>>> is a
>>>>>> fraud have been proven?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Keith's FLCJC membership must have been approved...
>>>>
>>>> ROTFL, if you're not with us you must be against us eh? That is a
>>>> pathetic philosophy.
>>>
>>> Speaking of "pathetic" keith... I notice that while you've managed to
>>> reply
>>> to Clock's response (technically anyway) to moi, you haven't replied
>>> to the
>>> question I put to you. Why's that keith?
>>
>> Unless you are the grand inquisitor (nobody expects the Spanish
>> inquisition) answers to the questions of jumped up little smartarses
>> are purely optional.
>
> That a pathetic cop-out, even for you.

No cop-out there sonny, I adequately put my view in reply to alvey
yesterday. If that answer is too difficult for you to find, or isn't the
one that you want then it's too bad because it's all you are going to
get, no matter how many snide remarks you care to post.

On 13/01/2022 5:14 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 13/01/2022 3:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 12/01/2022 3:02 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 10/01/2022 6:03 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 13:02:38 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/01/2022 9:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 3:14 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 14:22:49 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 10:11 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/22 11:07 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 11:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 8:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, she rules the roost and you cringe and cower. I can
>>>>>>>>>>>> see how
>>>>>>>>>>>> that would work for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you actively sit at the keyboard waiting for something to
>>>>>>>>>>> sling a
>>>>>>>>>>> tired insult at? The evidence seems to indicate that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He has very little else to do with his miserable life, other
>>>>>>>>>> than sit
>>>>>>>>>> around waiting for his heart to stop.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You really are pissed off being exposed as a faker, eh?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> QED
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the
>>>>>>> Fraudster is a
>>>>>>> fraud have been proven?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keith's FLCJC membership must have been approved...
>>>>>
>>>>> ROTFL, if you're not with us you must be against us eh? That is a
>>>>> pathetic philosophy.
>>>>
>>>> Speaking of "pathetic" keith... I notice that while you've managed
>>>> to reply
>>>> to Clock's response (technically anyway) to moi, you haven't replied
>>>> to the
>>>> question I put to you. Why's that keith?
>>>
>>> Unless you are the grand inquisitor (nobody expects the Spanish
>>> inquisition) answers to the questions of jumped up little smartarses
>>> are purely optional.
>>
>> That a pathetic cop-out, even for you.
>>
>
> keefy keeps sinking in the mire these days. he'll eventually end up in
> the sewer with the rest of the FLCJC
>
>
Poor little felix peeked from behind the curtain and having made sure
that it was safe and that his friends were protecting him, squeaked "Me
too".

On 13/01/2022 6:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 13/01/2022 5:10 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 13/01/2022 3:44 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 13/01/2022 11:21 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 12/01/2022 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 10/01/2022 3:27 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/01/2022 11:02 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 9:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 3:14 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 14:22:49 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 10:11 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/22 11:07 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 11:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 8:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, she rules the roost and you cringe and cower. I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would work for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you actively sit at the keyboard waiting for something
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to sling a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tired insult at? The evidence seems to indicate that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He has very little else to do with his miserable life,
>>>>>>>>>>>> other than sit
>>>>>>>>>>>> around waiting for his heart to stop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You really are pissed off being exposed as a faker, eh?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> QED
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the
>>>>>>>>> Fraudster is a
>>>>>>>>> fraud have been proven?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Keith's FLCJC membership must have been approved...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ROTFL, if you're not with us you must be against us eh? That is
>>>>>>> a pathetic philosophy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the
>>>>>> Fraudster is a fraud have been proven?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm saying that if you're not with us you must be against us is a
>>>>
>>>> Copout!
>>>>
>>>> Answer the question.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> With respect SIR, I decline your demand on this occasion since it
>>> has been adequately answered elsewhere. So, with all due respect,
>>> you can just go and fuck yourself.
>>
>>
>> so IOW you would rather align yourself with the fraudster than retain
>> any semblance of honesty, integrity, and decency you may once have
>> had. duly noted then.
>>
> I don't align myself with anybody, but, right at the moment he isn't
> as annoying as the little group polluting the place with reams of
> repetitive shit. You and your little mates need to wake up to
> yourselves and realise that you are achieving absolutely nothing,
> except to wreck what could be an interesting and useful forum. I'm not
> holding my breath though, your common mental condition is not going to
> cure itself in the short term if at all ever.

says the guy who replies with "little felix peeked..etc." and "go and
fuck yourself"

--
"his opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster

On 13/01/2022 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 13/01/2022 5:14 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 13/01/2022 3:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 12/01/2022 3:02 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 10/01/2022 6:03 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 13:02:38 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 9:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 3:14 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 14:22:49 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 10:11 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/22 11:07 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 11:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 8:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, she rules the roost and you cringe and cower. I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> see how
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would work for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you actively sit at the keyboard waiting for something
>>>>>>>>>>>> to sling a
>>>>>>>>>>>> tired insult at? The evidence seems to indicate that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He has very little else to do with his miserable life, other
>>>>>>>>>>> than sit
>>>>>>>>>>> around waiting for his heart to stop.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You really are pissed off being exposed as a faker, eh?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> QED
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the
>>>>>>>> Fraudster is a
>>>>>>>> fraud have been proven?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keith's FLCJC membership must have been approved...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ROTFL, if you're not with us you must be against us eh? That is a
>>>>>> pathetic philosophy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Speaking of "pathetic" keith... I notice that while you've managed
>>>>> to reply
>>>>> to Clock's response (technically anyway) to moi, you haven't
>>>>> replied to the
>>>>> question I put to you. Why's that keith?
>>>>
>>>> Unless you are the grand inquisitor (nobody expects the Spanish
>>>> inquisition) answers to the questions of jumped up little
>>>> smartarses are purely optional.
>>>
>>> That a pathetic cop-out, even for you.
>>>
>>
>> keefy keeps sinking in the mire these days. he'll eventually end up
>> in the sewer with the rest of the FLCJC
>>
>>
> Poor little felix peeked from behind the curtain and having made sure
> that it was safe and that his friends were protecting him, squeaked
> "Me too".

thank you for your significant contribution to the forum

--
"his opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster

On 12/1/22 11:51 am, Xeno wrote:
> On 12/1/22 12:51 am, Noddy wrote:

>
> What you haven't allowed for here is valve *float* and valve
> *overshoot*, both being candidates for contact with a piston. Valve
> float occurs when the inertia of the valve when decelerating down the
> cam is greater than the ability of the valve spring to keep the valve
> (train) in contact with the cam. IOW, it stays open slightly more/longer
> than it should at the high point and closing ramp of the cam. The head
> of the valve is sticking further into the cylinder than it should at
> that point. The other is valve overshoot. This occurs when the valve
> reaches/passes the highest *acceleration* point and starts to go over
> the top of the cam into the deceleration phase. The momentum of the
> valve (train) keeps the valve moving on its opening path and, as a
> result, the valve opens *more* than it would had it remained on the cam.
> Both the scenarios, all other things being normal, only occur when the
> engine is running at excessive RPM levels. This is most likely to occur
> at WOT on a long downhill run. Guess what, that's where it *did happen*.
>
>> while I wasn't at the track to see where Les was running his mixtures
>> and have no idea how hot it was getting I'd happily bet that Les was
>> running the thing fairly conservatively given that he had a habit of
>> doing so and was familiar with the setup of the vehicle. Either the
>
> Wouldn't matter what the mixtures were at had the valve head been given
> a tap by the piston.
>
>> valve guide clearance was too tight or the valve failed prematurely,
>> but either way given that I had nothing to do with the head it had
>> nothing to do with me.
>
> You were doing the head fitting, everything to do with you.
>>
>> Some important points to bear in mind here are that a piston to valve
>> clearance issue is a mechanical issue that is evident from the first
>> time the engine is turned over in extreme cases, and certainly from
>> the first time the engine reaches operating temperature in borderline
>> cases.
>
> Nope. Valve overshoot and valve float are *dynamic issues* and will
> never occur when the engine is being rotated slowly by hand or operating
> in a low RPM range.
>
>> However in *all* cases it is *not* a problem that will suddenly
>> magically appear after an engine has done some time at full noise like
>> this one did, and if Clasener and and his clog wearing puppy dog had
>> *any* idea at all they would *know* this.
>
> Valve float and overshoot *only appear* when the engine is at full noise
> or, more correctly, excessively high RPM levels.

Rather than try to explain to a nuff nuff like you Darren, I'll let this
website do the talking. They discuss valve float, bounce and loft. They
use the term "loft" rather than "overshoot", but we'll get by.

https://blog.trendperform.com/spintron-secrets-valve-float-bounce-and-loft-explained

Let’s picture the scenario. The engine is running smoothly on
the dyno but as the revs rise, maybe past 7,000rpm, the power
suddenly drops and the airflow plunges. Or perhaps you’re out
on track, and the motor hits an invisible wall, refusing to
make more power. In either case, the valvetrain could be out
of control. In short, the valves – and in particular the
intake valves – are hitting the seat hard and bouncing open
again, perhaps multiple times.
This is valve bounce, the most damaging of several phenomena
that collectively comprise valve float, which is when a valve’s
opening and closing phases don’t match the cam lobe profile in
the way that they should. At best, you’ll stop making power as
the rpm rises. At worst, the valve will make contact with the
piston, or it – or another element of the valvetrain – will
break.

At worst, the valve will make contact with the piston? And we're only
talking about valve bounce, a phenomena that only occurs at high RPM.
Got clearance when you turn the engine over by hand but at high RPM
levels those valve springs can't hold that valve closed after it's
slammed down on the seat. If you don't have *enough* clearance, it may
come to grief at high RPM but as a daily driver, no worries. Dynamic
effects Darren.

“People often think that valve float means that the parts are
coming out of contact, but that’s not necessarily true,” he
begins. “It’s actually a combination of valve bounce and valve
loft. Valve loft is when the dynamic lift at high speed is
*higher than the measured static lift*. Many times, the parts
are actually still in contact. Valve bounce is when the valve
opens again after closing and certainly means that the engine
will not make power – and will break things.”

And will break things - like valve heads that drop off.

The schematic showing loft and bounce is rather interesting. Note that
the loft occurs at two points, after the valve has closed but also at
the top of the cam lobe. IOW, the *dynamic lift* is greater that the
*static lift*. When you check just to see clearance by turning the
engine over, even 0.005" will be sufficient and nothing will contact
that shouldn't be in contact. But at high RPM, you need to allow a
greater margin, ~0.060" - 0.080", being fairly typical.

“Energy is stored in the components [as they deflect] and is then
let go as the cam acceleration slows down and the lifter comes
‘to the nose’ of the cam before everything turns around and goes
in the other direction.”
As engine speeds rise, this can lead to valve loft. This is when
the parts start to be ‘thrown’ as the cam acceleration comes off,
early to mid-lift.

You can see this in the graph, the baseline RPM is 1500. The valve
(purple line) accurately follows the cam profile around the nose of the
cam. At 8000 RPM however, the valve (red line) is being thrown off the
cam by its own momentum (lofting) and follows a much wider profile with
the valve spring desperately trying to pull the valve (and tappet) back
down against the cam face. It only manages to do that about a third of
the way down the closing ramp of the cam. That's why, when you measure
piston to valve clearances, you allow a huge margin. Making sure the
valves don't bind against the pistons when rotating the engine by hand,
ie. bare minimum clearances, just won't cut it at 8000+ RPM. Loft, float
and bounce are engine killers. People who actually are involved in
racing, not you obviously, know all this shit and work accordingly. You,
the absolute tyro, *think* you know it all - with obvious consequences -
Les' engine being the perfect *proof* of that.
>
> Now, had you really done an auto machining apprenticeship, and studied
> cam profiles, you would have learnt all about this and been able to
> calculate when such RPM points occur. Certainly anyone who does
> performance cam machining needs to be aware of cam profile limitations,
> the effects of inertia, valve spring rates, etc. You appear only to have
> the most simplistic idea of such matters. That tells me you *definitely*
> never sat your arse in an auto machining apprentice class ever in your
> life.

I know you haven't been involved in racing since concepts familiar to
race engine builders seem quite alien to you.

Now, you made the point in your response that it would be the intake
valve that would be affected. I beg to differ - and so does Summit Racing;

https://help.summitracing.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4765/~/what-is-valve-float%3F

What is valve float?
Definition & Description
Valve float occurs when the valvetrain gets out of control. It
is caused by not having enough Valve Spring Pressure. There are
2 types of valve float:
Loft - When the lifter is thrown off the nose of the cam lobe.
Bounce - When the valve bounces off its seat, before it settles.
How is it identified?
Mild valve float can be felt as power falling off quickly at high
rpm.
Severe valve float will be heard as a sputtering sound at peak rpm.
How does it affect performance?
Loft is the more severe issue. When the lifters loft, the valve
spring can go into Coil Bind. This could cause bent or broken
valvetrain parts. In severe cases, *the exhaust valve can hit the*
*piston*. To fix a loft problem, increase your seat pressure.
When a valve bounces off the seat, the engine looses compression.
To fix a bounce problem, increase your open pressure.
In most cases, New Valve Springs are the answer. Lighter valvetrain
parts can also help with valve float issues. These parts reduce the
weight of the valvetrain and make it easier for the springs to
control the valves. The following parts are available for many
applications:
Hollow Stem Valves Titanium Retainers Titanium Valves

On 13/1/22 6:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 13/01/2022 5:10 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 13/01/2022 3:44 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 13/01/2022 11:21 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 12/01/2022 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 10/01/2022 3:27 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/01/2022 11:02 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 9:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 3:14 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 14:22:49 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 10:11 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/22 11:07 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 11:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 8:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, she rules the roost and you cringe and cower. I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would work for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you actively sit at the keyboard waiting for something
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to sling a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tired insult at? The evidence seems to indicate that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He has very little else to do with his miserable life, other
>>>>>>>>>>>> than sit
>>>>>>>>>>>> around waiting for his heart to stop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You really are pissed off being exposed as a faker, eh?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> QED
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the
>>>>>>>>> Fraudster is a
>>>>>>>>> fraud have been proven?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Keith's FLCJC membership must have been approved...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ROTFL, if you're not with us you must be against us eh? That is a
>>>>>>> pathetic philosophy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the Fraudster
>>>>>> is a fraud have been proven?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm saying that if you're not with us you must be against us is a
>>>>
>>>> Copout!
>>>>
>>>> Answer the question.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> With respect SIR, I decline your demand on this occasion since it has
>>> been adequately answered elsewhere. So, with all due respect, you can
>>> just go and fuck yourself.
>>
>>
>> so IOW you would rather align yourself with the fraudster than retain
>> any semblance of honesty, integrity, and decency you may once have
>> had. duly noted then.
>>
> I don't align myself with anybody, but, right at the moment he isn't as
> annoying as the little group polluting the place with reams of
> repetitive shit. You and your little mates need to wake up to yourselves
> and realise that you are achieving absolutely nothing, except to wreck
> what could be an interesting and useful forum. I'm not holding my breath

It would be an interesting and useful forum *if* Darren didn't spew his
bullshit in here. Darren has constantly attacked anyone and everyone who
didn't agree and kowtow to his viewpoint. He is quieter now because his
credibility is exhausted. It wasn't always thus.

> though, your common mental condition is not going to cure itself in the
> short term if at all ever.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Thursday, 13 January 2022 at 17:40:02 UTC+11, alvey wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 20:07:18 -0800 (PST), jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, 13 January 2022 at 14:36:38 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >> On 13/01/2022 7:04 am, alvey wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 21:37:53 +1100, Noddy wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Ask Alvey what the name of the young Asian chick he pretended to be in
> >>>> order to get into my Facebook page was :)
> >>> Wow!! What a wondorous post. It may be a record for the number of stuffups
> >>> in a sentence. Let's count 'em!
> >>>
> >>> 1. It's a lie.
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > NOPE!
> To be clear, you are agreeing with the Fraudster's assertion that I
> pretended to be an "Asian chick" in order to "get into his Facie page" (The
> MRAG page). Could I have a Yes or No response please?
> alvey
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Just as Keith is wont to say in response to your honours
q`s.....*Go fuck yerself*.... <G>

>
>
> --
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> https://www.avast.com/antivirus

On 13/01/2022 3:38 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 13/01/2022 6:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 13/01/2022 3:10 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 13/01/2022 3:44 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 13/01/2022 11:21 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 12/01/2022 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/01/2022 3:27 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/01/2022 11:02 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 9:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 3:14 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 14:22:49 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 10:11 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/22 11:07 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 11:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 8:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, she rules the roost and you cringe and cower. I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would work for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you actively sit at the keyboard waiting for something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to sling a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tired insult at? The evidence seems to indicate that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has very little else to do with his miserable life,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other than sit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> around waiting for his heart to stop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You really are pissed off being exposed as a faker, eh?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> QED
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the
>>>>>>>>>> Fraudster is a
>>>>>>>>>> fraud have been proven?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Keith's FLCJC membership must have been approved...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ROTFL, if you're not with us you must be against us eh? That is
>>>>>>>> a pathetic philosophy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the
>>>>>>> Fraudster is a fraud have been proven?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm saying that if you're not with us you must be against us is a
>>>>>
>>>>> Copout!
>>>>>
>>>>> Answer the question.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> With respect SIR, I decline your demand on this occasion since it
>>>> has been adequately answered elsewhere. So, with all due respect,
>>>> you can just go and fuck yourself.
>>>
>>>
>>> so IOW you would rather align yourself with the fraudster than retain
>>> any semblance of honesty, integrity, and decency you may once have
>>> had. duly noted then.
>>>
>>
>> He asks a lot of questions for a bloke who dodges answering them. At
>> least we now know what he considers to be the acceptable response to
>> his questions.
>>
>>
>
> hmmmm. we could answer any of his questions with the acronym JGAFY
> then.  :)
>

Yep, a completely acceptable response according to him :-)

On 13/01/2022 3:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 13/01/2022 5:10 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 13/01/2022 3:44 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 13/01/2022 11:21 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 12/01/2022 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 10/01/2022 3:27 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/01/2022 11:02 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 9:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 3:14 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 14:22:49 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 10:11 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/22 11:07 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 11:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 8:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, she rules the roost and you cringe and cower. I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would work for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you actively sit at the keyboard waiting for something
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to sling a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tired insult at? The evidence seems to indicate that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He has very little else to do with his miserable life, other
>>>>>>>>>>>> than sit
>>>>>>>>>>>> around waiting for his heart to stop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You really are pissed off being exposed as a faker, eh?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> QED
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the
>>>>>>>>> Fraudster is a
>>>>>>>>> fraud have been proven?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Keith's FLCJC membership must have been approved...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ROTFL, if you're not with us you must be against us eh? That is a
>>>>>>> pathetic philosophy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the Fraudster
>>>>>> is a fraud have been proven?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm saying that if you're not with us you must be against us is a
>>>>
>>>> Copout!
>>>>
>>>> Answer the question.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> With respect SIR, I decline your demand on this occasion since it has
>>> been adequately answered elsewhere. So, with all due respect, you can
>>> just go and fuck yourself.
>>
>>
>> so IOW you would rather align yourself with the fraudster than retain
>> any semblance of honesty, integrity, and decency you may once have
>> had. duly noted then.
>>
> I don't align myself with anybody, but, right at the moment he isn't as
> annoying as the little group polluting the place with reams of
> repetitive shit.

You refuse answer fair and relevant questions and respond with childish
nonsense so who the fuck are you to talk?

On 13/01/2022 3:37 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 13/01/2022 2:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 12/01/2022 3:02 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 10/01/2022 6:03 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 13:02:38 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/01/2022 9:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 3:14 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 14:22:49 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 10:11 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/22 11:07 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 11:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 8:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, she rules the roost and you cringe and cower. I can
>>>>>>>>>>>> see how
>>>>>>>>>>>> that would work for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you actively sit at the keyboard waiting for something to
>>>>>>>>>>> sling a
>>>>>>>>>>> tired insult at? The evidence seems to indicate that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He has very little else to do with his miserable life, other
>>>>>>>>>> than sit
>>>>>>>>>> around waiting for his heart to stop.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You really are pissed off being exposed as a faker, eh?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> QED
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the
>>>>>>> Fraudster is a
>>>>>>> fraud have been proven?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keith's FLCJC membership must have been approved...
>>>>>
>>>>> ROTFL, if you're not with us you must be against us eh? That is a
>>>>> pathetic philosophy.
>>>>
>>>> Speaking of "pathetic" keith... I notice that while you've managed
>>>> to reply
>>>> to Clock's response (technically anyway) to moi, you haven't replied
>>>> to the
>>>> question I put to you. Why's that keith?
>>>
>>> Unless you are the grand inquisitor (nobody expects the Spanish
>>> inquisition) answers to the questions of jumped up little smartarses
>>> are purely optional.
>>
>> That a pathetic cop-out, even for you.
>
> No cop-out there sonny, I adequately put my view in reply to alvey
> yesterday.

That's a pathetic cop-out, typical for you.

On Thursday, 13 January 2022 at 18:37:09 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 13/01/2022 6:26 pm, Clocky wrote:
> > On 13/01/2022 3:10 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >> On 13/01/2022 3:44 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> >>> On 13/01/2022 11:21 am, Clocky wrote:
> >>>> On 12/01/2022 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> >>>>> On 10/01/2022 3:27 pm, Clocky wrote:
> >>>>>> On 10/01/2022 11:02 am, keithr0 wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 9:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 3:14 pm, alvey wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 14:22:49 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 10:11 am, Xeno wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/22 11:07 am, Noddy wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 11:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 8:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, she rules the roost and you cringe and cower. I can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> see how
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would work for you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you actively sit at the keyboard waiting for something
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to sling a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> tired insult at? The evidence seems to indicate that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> He has very little else to do with his miserable life,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> other than sit
> >>>>>>>>>>>> around waiting for his heart to stop.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> You really are pissed off being exposed as a faker, eh?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> QED
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Really?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the
> >>>>>>>>> Fraudster is a
> >>>>>>>>> fraud have been proven?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> alvey
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Keith's FLCJC membership must have been approved...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ROTFL, if you're not with us you must be against us eh? That is
> >>>>>>> a pathetic philosophy.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the
> >>>>>> Fraudster is a fraud have been proven?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm saying that if you're not with us you must be against us is a
> >>>>
> >>>> Copout!
> >>>>
> >>>> Answer the question.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> With respect SIR, I decline your demand on this occasion since it
> >>> has been adequately answered elsewhere. So, with all due respect,
> >>> you can just go and fuck yourself.
> >>
> >>
> >> so IOW you would rather align yourself with the fraudster than retain
> >> any semblance of honesty, integrity, and decency you may once have
> >> had. duly noted then.
> >>
> >
> > He asks a lot of questions for a bloke who dodges answering them. At
> > least we now know what he considers to be the acceptable response to
> > his questions.
> >
> >
> hmmmm. we could answer any of his questions with the acronym JGAFY then. :)
~~~~~
You should, its expected of youse. <G>
*WE* eh?. Yep, you and yer bum buddies to a T. *NO* independent thought from *any* of you. Simply a bunch of group thinking (used loosely) intellectual midgets. Pffftttttt.
> --
> "his opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
> the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey the Fraudster

On 13/01/2022 7:41 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 13/01/2022 3:37 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 13/01/2022 2:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 12/01/2022 3:02 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 10/01/2022 6:03 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 13:02:38 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 9:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 3:14 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 14:22:49 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 10:11 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/22 11:07 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 11:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 8:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, she rules the roost and you cringe and cower. I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> see how
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would work for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you actively sit at the keyboard waiting for something
>>>>>>>>>>>> to sling a
>>>>>>>>>>>> tired insult at? The evidence seems to indicate that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He has very little else to do with his miserable life, other
>>>>>>>>>>> than sit
>>>>>>>>>>> around waiting for his heart to stop.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You really are pissed off being exposed as a faker, eh?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> QED
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the
>>>>>>>> Fraudster is a
>>>>>>>> fraud have been proven?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keith's FLCJC membership must have been approved...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ROTFL, if you're not with us you must be against us eh? That is a
>>>>>> pathetic philosophy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Speaking of "pathetic" keith... I notice that while you've managed
>>>>> to reply
>>>>> to Clock's response (technically anyway) to moi, you haven't
>>>>> replied to the
>>>>> question I put to you. Why's that keith?
>>>>
>>>> Unless you are the grand inquisitor (nobody expects the Spanish
>>>> inquisition) answers to the questions of jumped up little
>>>> smartarses are purely optional.
>>>
>>> That a pathetic cop-out, even for you.
>>
>> No cop-out there sonny, I adequately put my view in reply to alvey
>> yesterday.
>
> That's a pathetic cop-out, typical for you.
>

he's really showing his true colours lately

--
"his opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster

On 11/01/2022 11:51 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 11/01/2022 7:51 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 11/01/2022 6:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>>> Yeah. Didn't understand the concept of valve *float* and valve
>>> *overshoot*, both circumstances that can lead to valve impact if
>>> insufficient clearance is allowed - and a thinner shim head gasket
>>> will take that clearance down by a *lot*. I didn't expect Darren to
>>> be able to do it but I did expect Daryl to know how it's done. He is
>>> *supposedly* qualified after all. Too much time pushing a broom I
>>> guess. Checking piston to valve clearance isn't rocket science by any
>>> means and there's plenty of info on the net for the uninitiated. But
>>> to fit a thinner head gasket and *not* check the clearance, that's
>>> nothing short of *criminal*.
>>> The funny thing is, I was expecting it to be a more esoteric cause,
>>> lean combustion, injectors at 100% duty cycle or MAF sensor pinning.
>>> I was overthinking it and not making sufficient allowance for the two
>>> clowns who were working on the 4AGE(20). I trust Les has learnt his
>>> lesson.
>>>
>> So it's his fault the engine failed even though he advised Les that
>> there were serious issues with the engine and failure was likely.
>
> Actually, it was *not* my fault that the engine died, and I'll go into
> some detail as to why that is to put this ridiculous bullshit claim of
> Clasener's to bed :)
>
>> I'm  guessing Les wanted to compete and went with the motor anyway as
>> availability of a replacement motor in a limited timeframe may have
>> been an issue.
>
> The issue with this engine was that Les was trying to build it on a
> budget, using parts from an engine that had already failed before I ever
> laid my hands on it.
>
>> Wouldn't be the first time someone has failed to take advice and it's
>> cost them dearly.
>
> No, but in fairness to Les and myself, the cause of this engine's demise
> had nothing to do with either of us. Well, at least certainly not me :)
>
> For those who don't know and who may be half interested in discovering
> the truth of this matter, the engine in question was a Toyota 4AGE 20
> valve, known as a "Gold Top" of I remember correctly, and this is the
> engine here:
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PME
>
> It's a 1600cc 4 cylinder "high performance" engine that has a fairly
> high output for it's capacity and a healthy appetite for rpm, which
> Daryl's mate Les used to use in his Lotus 7 Replica for competition work:
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69Q3J
>
> Now, it's been Clasener's claim for a while that this engine died as a
> result of insufficient piston to valve clearance, and this is claim is
> absolutely fraudulent. It is a complete fabrication invented by Clasener
> for the sole purpose of having something to argue about. In reality, and
> as usual, he is *completely* wrong and has achieved nothing other than
> making a complete moron out of himself.
>
> Allow me to show how :)
>
> This engine was originally brought to me in around August of 2016 after
> it had suffered a catastrophic failure. It actually broke a factory rod
> through the beam, which trashed the block and made a mess of the head,
> and damaged the crank and piston.
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PTY
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PU1
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PU3
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PU4
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PU6
>
> This failure occurred before I had done any serious work on this engine,
> and in fact up until this point about all I had ever done to the engine
> was to fabricate a baffle for the oil pan and measure it's capacity
> while it was off, as the pan had been shortened to suit the chassis and
> it's oil level needed to be measured.
>
> Once this engine was dismantled Les set off to find a replacement
> engine, and the cylinder head was taken to his guys who had worked it
> before to repair the damage and make some new valves.
>
> Once all the parts were finally obtained they were delivered to me and
> my job was to assemble the engine, modify the windage tray and oil pick
> up to suit the oil pan, set the valve clearances and dial in the
> camshafts. Only parts of the replacement engine were used, principally
> the block and crank, as other parts from the old engine were still
> perfectly serviceable. The three surviving pistons from the old engine
> were retained as they were already oversize which allowed the new block
> to be bored to suit them, and a 4th piston was machined up from a semi
> finished blank to replace the one that was damaged from the old engine.
>
> New after market connecting rods were used, and despite the damage it
> suffered the original cylinder head was retained as it had already been
> subject to extensive port work and it was highly desirable for that not
> to be lost. The original camshafts were put back into service.
>
> The engine went together will with only a few niggles worth noting. The
> main one was that the person doing the bore and hone work was pretty
> average and their sizings were all over the place. The crank grind was
> perfect with exact sizes from front to rear, and the new rods were very
> good.
>
> This is the windage tray and oil pickup:
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PLQ
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PLR
>
> Normally this oil pickup would sit up about 3 inches higher than this,
> and the slot cut into the windage tray wouldn't be necessary. But
> because this engine sat so low in the chassis and didn't run a dry sump
> system it was necessary to bury this pickup as high up into the engine
> as possible so it would clear the modified oil pan, and it only cleared
> the crank web by about half an inch.  The brazing on the bottom of the
> pickup tube where it goes into the timing cover is were it was cut and
> shortened.
>
> Here, after final clearance checking, the short motor is assembled.
> Crank bolts triple torqued as per specifications and rod bolt tension
> set with a stretch gauge. Al the bottom end clearances were right down
> the middle which is exactly where I wanted them to be.
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69RAI
>
> Now we get to the juicy stuff which will show Clasener up as the shit
> talking clueless windbag that he is.
>
> Here's a few pics of the top of the engine and with the gasket in place
> before the head is finally ready to go on:
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PLP
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PLS
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PLT
>
> Now, to the keen eye there's a few things to observe in these pics.
>
> In the first instance, you can see the three used pistons which were in
> excellent shape, and the one new one. Secondly, you can see the
> competition head gasket that was used, which is a compressible gasket
> and not a "shim" as Clasener incorrectly refers to it, and lastly you
> can see the remains of the pink plasticine that was used to check the
> pison to valve clearances on the exhaust valve releifs of the number one
> piston :)
>
> Inlet and exhaust clearances where checked on all four pistons which is
> standard procedure, and especially in an engine using non standard
> connecting rods, but residue of the plasticine only remained on the
> exhaust cut outs on the number one piston as they were a rough "as cast"
> finish where all the other surfaces were machined smooth. I wasn't all
> that fussed about cleaning it off as it would burn off the moment the
> engine was first fired :)
>
> Setting the valve clearances was the last major task:
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PM9
>
> This is with the cams removed obviously, and the various markings on the
> head show where I'd been measuring clearances and swapping shims around
> to get within spec.
>
> The 4AEG engine uses a cam follower bucket system as can be seen, with
> the clearance adjustment shim being a small pad not much bigger in
> diameter than the valve stem that sits in a recessed pocket in the
> bottom of the bucket between the bucket and valve tip. The come in
> various thicknesses, but unless you have access to a great many of them
> setting the valve clearances on engines like these can be a pain.
> Especially when the people doing the cylinder head work aren't all that
> concerned about how much they cut out of the seat or they grind off the
> tip of the valve.
>
> It took an entire day to set the clearances using the limited assortment
> of shims that I had, and in the end I had to grind many of them on the
> surface grinder using a custom jig to hold them securely on the magnetic
> chuck.
>
> Finally, the clearances were set and the camshafts installed for good,
> and it was ready for it's timing belt and to be put back into the car.
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69S4W
>
> So, after all this long winded chest beating, what have we learned?
>
> What we've learned is that apart from a little bit of piston to bore
> clearance variation which Les was advised could lead to a bit of ring
> flutter and oil control problem, this engine went together well and had
> no clearance issues whatsoever. The engine was installed back into the
> car and test fired by me and it fired straight up with excellent oil
> pressure and had no temperature issues.
>
> At this point the car was handed back to Les were it was booked into a
> dyno session. It ran the dyno session successfully where it bed in
> nicely, and as Les was still playing with tune settings a second dyno
> session was booked not long after. Subsequently to this it did a full
> test and tune day at Winton raceway before it was packed onto it's
> trailer and taken to Bathurst for a class race meeting which was the
> ultimate purpose of having done all this work in the first place.
>
> And it was at Bathurst where things turned to shit.
>
> On the seventh Lap of Les's race, as he was coming through the Chase at
> the end of Conrod Straight, the engine had a change of exhaust note and
> blew a heavy plume of white smoke out of the exhaust. It was
> instantaneous, and it was abundantly clear that something in the engine
> had broken, and it's race meeting was over.
>
> Les returned to Melbourne and brought the car around for me to look at
> where he showed me the video of the failure taking place, and after
> pulling a plug and looking into the cylinder with a Borescope it was
> obvious that the engine had dropped a valve and suffered a terminal
> failure.
>
> I didn't do anything else to it, and Les went home with his tail between
> his legs and pulled the engine apart to see for himself. Once he did, he
> sent me these photos.
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PMI
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PMH
>
> What these pictures show is that an exhaust valve on number one cylinder
> has hit a piston, but moreover it did so while the valve was fully open
> at the limit of it's travel. That much is obvious from the fact that the
> valve was snapped off around half way up it's stem, and as the piston
> turned it sideways and tried to bury it into the seat pocket it caused
> the piston to rock in it's bore pushing it hard up against the cylinder
> wall and splitting it open.
>
> Anyone who has even the most "basic" of engine experience will tell you
> that this is most decidedly *not* the result of inadequate piston to
> valve clearance :)
>
> In the case of piston to valve clearance issues, you mostly see it on
> inlet valves as with big overlap cams like this engine ran the inlet
> valve begins opening very early while the piston is still moving up the
> bore towards top dead centre. As the two are moving towards each other
> interference can occur if clearances are not where they're supposed to
> be. In the case of exhaust valves it's a different story as the exhaust
> valve is moving *away* from the piston as the piston nears top dead
> centre, and as a result piston to valve contact with exhaust valves is
> quite rare. Not impossible, but certainly far less likely than it can be
> with inlet valves.
>
> However in either case the net result is usually the same in that unless
> you have things stupidly wrong about the most you'll ever see happen in
> the case of piston to valve contact near the very end (exhaust) or very
> beginning (inlet) of the valve's period is for the valve to bend
> slightly just behind the head, which will result in the valve no longer
> sealing against it's seat resulting in a loss of compression in that
> cylinder.
>
> And that is *not* what happened in the case of Les's engine.
>
> In Les's case the exhaust valve came into contact with the piston while
> the valve was at or near the fully open position, and there is basically
> only two ways for that to occur. Either the valve grabbed in it's guide,
> or it "dropped" into the cylinder after losing a collet or had a collet
> groove failure which unloaded the valve spring. I never got to see the
> remains of the top half of the valve so I can't tell you exactly, and
> while I wasn't at the track to see where Les was running his mixtures
> and have no idea how hot it was getting I'd happily bet that Les was
> running the thing fairly conservatively given that he had a habit of
> doing so and was familiar with the setup of the vehicle. Either the
> valve guide clearance was too tight or the valve failed prematurely, but
> either way given that I had nothing to do with the head it had nothing
> to do with me.
>
> Some important points to bear in mind here are that a piston to valve
> clearance issue is a mechanical issue that is evident from the first
> time the engine is turned over in extreme cases, and certainly from the
> first time the engine reaches operating temperature in borderline cases.
> However in *all* cases it is *not* a problem that will suddenly
> magically appear after an engine has done some time at full noise like
> this one did, and if Clasener and and his clog wearing puppy dog had
> *any* idea at all they would *know* this.
>
> But apparently they did not. Or they did and ignored it and just
> invented whatever bullshit story they wanted to crow about, because hey
> it's not like they've never done that before, right?
>
> These people are fucking *imbeciles* who would be incapable of holding
> down a job for more than a day in any decent workshop where you had to
> reply on your skills and knowledge to get by....
>
>> You really need to get over your obsession with abusing Noddy. You're
>> not perfect yourself and anyone who saw the tractor split would agree.
>
> "Not perfect" is being extremely generous. Completely clueless would be
> more accurate.

On 13/01/2022 5:41 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 13/01/2022 6:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 13/01/2022 5:10 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 13/01/2022 3:44 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 13/01/2022 11:21 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 12/01/2022 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/01/2022 3:27 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/01/2022 11:02 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 9:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 3:14 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 14:22:49 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 10:11 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/22 11:07 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 11:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 8:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, she rules the roost and you cringe and cower. I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would work for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you actively sit at the keyboard waiting for something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to sling a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tired insult at? The evidence seems to indicate that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has very little else to do with his miserable life,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other than sit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> around waiting for his heart to stop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You really are pissed off being exposed as a faker, eh?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> QED
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the
>>>>>>>>>> Fraudster is a
>>>>>>>>>> fraud have been proven?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Keith's FLCJC membership must have been approved...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ROTFL, if you're not with us you must be against us eh? That is
>>>>>>>> a pathetic philosophy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the
>>>>>>> Fraudster is a fraud have been proven?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm saying that if you're not with us you must be against us is a
>>>>>
>>>>> Copout!
>>>>>
>>>>> Answer the question.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> With respect SIR, I decline your demand on this occasion since it
>>>> has been adequately answered elsewhere. So, with all due respect,
>>>> you can just go and fuck yourself.
>>>
>>>
>>> so IOW you would rather align yourself with the fraudster than retain
>>> any semblance of honesty, integrity, and decency you may once have
>>> had. duly noted then.
>>>
>> I don't align myself with anybody, but, right at the moment he isn't
>> as annoying as the little group polluting the place with reams of
>> repetitive shit. You and your little mates need to wake up to
>> yourselves and realise that you are achieving absolutely nothing,
>> except to wreck what could be an interesting and useful forum. I'm not
>> holding my breath though, your common mental condition is not going to
>> cure itself in the short term if at all ever.
>
>
> says the guy who replies with "little felix peeked..etc." and "go and
> fuck yourself"
>
And your point is?

On 13/1/22 8:22 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 11/01/2022 11:51 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 11/01/2022 7:51 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>> On 11/01/2022 6:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>>> Yeah. Didn't understand the concept of valve *float* and valve
>>>> *overshoot*, both circumstances that can lead to valve impact if
>>>> insufficient clearance is allowed - and a thinner shim head gasket
>>>> will take that clearance down by a *lot*. I didn't expect Darren to
>>>> be able to do it but I did expect Daryl to know how it's done. He is
>>>> *supposedly* qualified after all. Too much time pushing a broom I
>>>> guess. Checking piston to valve clearance isn't rocket science by
>>>> any means and there's plenty of info on the net for the uninitiated.
>>>> But to fit a thinner head gasket and *not* check the clearance,
>>>> that's nothing short of *criminal*.
>>>> The funny thing is, I was expecting it to be a more esoteric cause,
>>>> lean combustion, injectors at 100% duty cycle or MAF sensor pinning.
>>>> I was overthinking it and not making sufficient allowance for the
>>>> two clowns who were working on the 4AGE(20). I trust Les has learnt
>>>> his lesson.
>>>>
>>> So it's his fault the engine failed even though he advised Les that
>>> there were serious issues with the engine and failure was likely.
>>
>> Actually, it was *not* my fault that the engine died, and I'll go into
>> some detail as to why that is to put this ridiculous bullshit claim of
>> Clasener's to bed :)
>>
>>> I'm  guessing Les wanted to compete and went with the motor anyway as
>>> availability of a replacement motor in a limited timeframe may have
>>> been an issue.
>>
>> The issue with this engine was that Les was trying to build it on a
>> budget, using parts from an engine that had already failed before I
>> ever laid my hands on it.
>>
>>> Wouldn't be the first time someone has failed to take advice and it's
>>> cost them dearly.
>>
>> No, but in fairness to Les and myself, the cause of this engine's
>> demise had nothing to do with either of us. Well, at least certainly
>> not me :)
>>
>> For those who don't know and who may be half interested in discovering
>> the truth of this matter, the engine in question was a Toyota 4AGE 20
>> valve, known as a "Gold Top" of I remember correctly, and this is the
>> engine here:
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PME
>>
>> It's a 1600cc 4 cylinder "high performance" engine that has a fairly
>> high output for it's capacity and a healthy appetite for rpm, which
>> Daryl's mate Les used to use in his Lotus 7 Replica for competition work:
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69Q3J
>>
>> Now, it's been Clasener's claim for a while that this engine died as a
>> result of insufficient piston to valve clearance, and this is claim is
>> absolutely fraudulent. It is a complete fabrication invented by
>> Clasener for the sole purpose of having something to argue about. In
>> reality, and as usual, he is *completely* wrong and has achieved
>> nothing other than making a complete moron out of himself.
>>
>> Allow me to show how :)
>>
>> This engine was originally brought to me in around August of 2016
>> after it had suffered a catastrophic failure. It actually broke a
>> factory rod through the beam, which trashed the block and made a mess
>> of the head, and damaged the crank and piston.
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PTY
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PU1
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PU3
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PU4
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PU6
>>
>> This failure occurred before I had done any serious work on this
>> engine, and in fact up until this point about all I had ever done to
>> the engine was to fabricate a baffle for the oil pan and measure it's
>> capacity while it was off, as the pan had been shortened to suit the
>> chassis and it's oil level needed to be measured.
>>
>> Once this engine was dismantled Les set off to find a replacement
>> engine, and the cylinder head was taken to his guys who had worked it
>> before to repair the damage and make some new valves.
>>
>> Once all the parts were finally obtained they were delivered to me and
>> my job was to assemble the engine, modify the windage tray and oil
>> pick up to suit the oil pan, set the valve clearances and dial in the
>> camshafts. Only parts of the replacement engine were used, principally
>> the block and crank, as other parts from the old engine were still
>> perfectly serviceable. The three surviving pistons from the old engine
>> were retained as they were already oversize which allowed the new
>> block to be bored to suit them, and a 4th piston was machined up from
>> a semi finished blank to replace the one that was damaged from the old
>> engine.
>>
>> New after market connecting rods were used, and despite the damage it
>> suffered the original cylinder head was retained as it had already
>> been subject to extensive port work and it was highly desirable for
>> that not to be lost. The original camshafts were put back into service.
>>
>> The engine went together will with only a few niggles worth noting.
>> The main one was that the person doing the bore and hone work was
>> pretty average and their sizings were all over the place. The crank
>> grind was perfect with exact sizes from front to rear, and the new
>> rods were very good.
>>
>> This is the windage tray and oil pickup:
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PLQ
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PLR
>>
>> Normally this oil pickup would sit up about 3 inches higher than this,
>> and the slot cut into the windage tray wouldn't be necessary. But
>> because this engine sat so low in the chassis and didn't run a dry
>> sump system it was necessary to bury this pickup as high up into the
>> engine as possible so it would clear the modified oil pan, and it only
>> cleared the crank web by about half an inch.  The brazing on the
>> bottom of the pickup tube where it goes into the timing cover is were
>> it was cut and shortened.
>>
>> Here, after final clearance checking, the short motor is assembled.
>> Crank bolts triple torqued as per specifications and rod bolt tension
>> set with a stretch gauge. Al the bottom end clearances were right down
>> the middle which is exactly where I wanted them to be.
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69RAI
>>
>> Now we get to the juicy stuff which will show Clasener up as the shit
>> talking clueless windbag that he is.
>>
>> Here's a few pics of the top of the engine and with the gasket in
>> place before the head is finally ready to go on:
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PLP
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PLS
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PLT
>>
>> Now, to the keen eye there's a few things to observe in these pics.
>>
>> In the first instance, you can see the three used pistons which were
>> in excellent shape, and the one new one. Secondly, you can see the
>> competition head gasket that was used, which is a compressible gasket
>> and not a "shim" as Clasener incorrectly refers to it, and lastly you
>> can see the remains of the pink plasticine that was used to check the
>> pison to valve clearances on the exhaust valve releifs of the number
>> one piston :)
>>
>> Inlet and exhaust clearances where checked on all four pistons which
>> is standard procedure, and especially in an engine using non standard
>> connecting rods, but residue of the plasticine only remained on the
>> exhaust cut outs on the number one piston as they were a rough "as
>> cast" finish where all the other surfaces were machined smooth. I
>> wasn't all that fussed about cleaning it off as it would burn off the
>> moment the engine was first fired :)
>>
>> Setting the valve clearances was the last major task:
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PM9
>>
>> This is with the cams removed obviously, and the various markings on
>> the head show where I'd been measuring clearances and swapping shims
>> around to get within spec.
>>
>> The 4AEG engine uses a cam follower bucket system as can be seen, with
>> the clearance adjustment shim being a small pad not much bigger in
>> diameter than the valve stem that sits in a recessed pocket in the
>> bottom of the bucket between the bucket and valve tip. The come in
>> various thicknesses, but unless you have access to a great many of
>> them setting the valve clearances on engines like these can be a pain.
>> Especially when the people doing the cylinder head work aren't all
>> that concerned about how much they cut out of the seat or they grind
>> off the tip of the valve.
>>
>> It took an entire day to set the clearances using the limited
>> assortment of shims that I had, and in the end I had to grind many of
>> them on the surface grinder using a custom jig to hold them securely
>> on the magnetic chuck.
>>
>> Finally, the clearances were set and the camshafts installed for good,
>> and it was ready for it's timing belt and to be put back into the car.
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69S4W
>>
>> So, after all this long winded chest beating, what have we learned?
>>
>> What we've learned is that apart from a little bit of piston to bore
>> clearance variation which Les was advised could lead to a bit of ring
>> flutter and oil control problem, this engine went together well and
>> had no clearance issues whatsoever. The engine was installed back into
>> the car and test fired by me and it fired straight up with excellent
>> oil pressure and had no temperature issues.
>>
>> At this point the car was handed back to Les were it was booked into a
>> dyno session. It ran the dyno session successfully where it bed in
>> nicely, and as Les was still playing with tune settings a second dyno
>> session was booked not long after. Subsequently to this it did a full
>> test and tune day at Winton raceway before it was packed onto it's
>> trailer and taken to Bathurst for a class race meeting which was the
>> ultimate purpose of having done all this work in the first place.
>>
>> And it was at Bathurst where things turned to shit.
>>
>> On the seventh Lap of Les's race, as he was coming through the Chase
>> at the end of Conrod Straight, the engine had a change of exhaust note
>> and blew a heavy plume of white smoke out of the exhaust. It was
>> instantaneous, and it was abundantly clear that something in the
>> engine had broken, and it's race meeting was over.
>>
>> Les returned to Melbourne and brought the car around for me to look at
>> where he showed me the video of the failure taking place, and after
>> pulling a plug and looking into the cylinder with a Borescope it was
>> obvious that the engine had dropped a valve and suffered a terminal
>> failure.
>>
>> I didn't do anything else to it, and Les went home with his tail
>> between his legs and pulled the engine apart to see for himself. Once
>> he did, he sent me these photos.
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PMI
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PMH
>>
>> What these pictures show is that an exhaust valve on number one
>> cylinder has hit a piston, but moreover it did so while the valve was
>> fully open at the limit of it's travel. That much is obvious from the
>> fact that the valve was snapped off around half way up it's stem, and
>> as the piston turned it sideways and tried to bury it into the seat
>> pocket it caused the piston to rock in it's bore pushing it hard up
>> against the cylinder wall and splitting it open.
>>
>> Anyone who has even the most "basic" of engine experience will tell
>> you that this is most decidedly *not* the result of inadequate piston
>> to valve clearance :)
>>
>> In the case of piston to valve clearance issues, you mostly see it on
>> inlet valves as with big overlap cams like this engine ran the inlet
>> valve begins opening very early while the piston is still moving up
>> the bore towards top dead centre. As the two are moving towards each
>> other interference can occur if clearances are not where they're
>> supposed to be. In the case of exhaust valves it's a different story
>> as the exhaust valve is moving *away* from the piston as the piston
>> nears top dead centre, and as a result piston to valve contact with
>> exhaust valves is quite rare. Not impossible, but certainly far less
>> likely than it can be with inlet valves.
>>
>> However in either case the net result is usually the same in that
>> unless you have things stupidly wrong about the most you'll ever see
>> happen in the case of piston to valve contact near the very end
>> (exhaust) or very beginning (inlet) of the valve's period is for the
>> valve to bend slightly just behind the head, which will result in the
>> valve no longer sealing against it's seat resulting in a loss of
>> compression in that cylinder.
>>
>> And that is *not* what happened in the case of Les's engine.
>>
>> In Les's case the exhaust valve came into contact with the piston
>> while the valve was at or near the fully open position, and there is
>> basically only two ways for that to occur. Either the valve grabbed in
>> it's guide, or it "dropped" into the cylinder after losing a collet or
>> had a collet groove failure which unloaded the valve spring. I never
>> got to see the remains of the top half of the valve so I can't tell
>> you exactly, and while I wasn't at the track to see where Les was
>> running his mixtures and have no idea how hot it was getting I'd
>> happily bet that Les was running the thing fairly conservatively given
>> that he had a habit of doing so and was familiar with the setup of the
>> vehicle. Either the valve guide clearance was too tight or the valve
>> failed prematurely, but either way given that I had nothing to do with
>> the head it had nothing to do with me.
>>
>> Some important points to bear in mind here are that a piston to valve
>> clearance issue is a mechanical issue that is evident from the first
>> time the engine is turned over in extreme cases, and certainly from
>> the first time the engine reaches operating temperature in borderline
>> cases. However in *all* cases it is *not* a problem that will suddenly
>> magically appear after an engine has done some time at full noise like
>> this one did, and if Clasener and and his clog wearing puppy dog had
>> *any* idea at all they would *know* this.
>>
>> But apparently they did not. Or they did and ignored it and just
>> invented whatever bullshit story they wanted to crow about, because
>> hey it's not like they've never done that before, right?
>>
>> These people are fucking *imbeciles* who would be incapable of holding
>> down a job for more than a day in any decent workshop where you had to
>> reply on your skills and knowledge to get by....
>>
>>> You really need to get over your obsession with abusing Noddy. You're
>>> not perfect yourself and anyone who saw the tractor split would agree.
>>
>> "Not perfect" is being extremely generous. Completely clueless would
>> be more accurate.
>
> Four response that were completely predictable, the responder aren't
> actually needed around here, a short program could be written to do the
> same thing by anybody semi competent in BASIC.
>
Rod Speed, where are you?

On 13/01/2022 5:44 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 13/01/2022 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 13/01/2022 5:14 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 13/01/2022 3:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 12/01/2022 3:02 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 10/01/2022 6:03 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 13:02:38 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 9:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 3:14 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 14:22:49 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 10:11 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/22 11:07 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 11:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 8:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, she rules the roost and you cringe and cower. I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would work for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you actively sit at the keyboard waiting for something
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to sling a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tired insult at? The evidence seems to indicate that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He has very little else to do with his miserable life, other
>>>>>>>>>>>> than sit
>>>>>>>>>>>> around waiting for his heart to stop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You really are pissed off being exposed as a faker, eh?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> QED
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the
>>>>>>>>> Fraudster is a
>>>>>>>>> fraud have been proven?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Keith's FLCJC membership must have been approved...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ROTFL, if you're not with us you must be against us eh? That is a
>>>>>>> pathetic philosophy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Speaking of "pathetic" keith... I notice that while you've managed
>>>>>> to reply
>>>>>> to Clock's response (technically anyway) to moi, you haven't
>>>>>> replied to the
>>>>>> question I put to you. Why's that keith?
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless you are the grand inquisitor (nobody expects the Spanish
>>>>> inquisition) answers to the questions of jumped up little
>>>>> smartarses are purely optional.
>>>>
>>>> That a pathetic cop-out, even for you.
>>>>
>>>
>>> keefy keeps sinking in the mire these days. he'll eventually end up
>>> in the sewer with the rest of the FLCJC
>>>
>>>
>> Poor little felix peeked from behind the curtain and having made sure
>> that it was safe and that his friends were protecting him, squeaked
>> "Me too".
>
>
> thank you for your significant contribution to the forum
>
Thank you for providing the opportunity to point out how insignificant
your contribution to the discussion is.

On 13/01/2022 8:26 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 13/01/2022 5:41 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 13/01/2022 6:31 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 13/01/2022 5:10 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 13/01/2022 3:44 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 13/01/2022 11:21 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/01/2022 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/01/2022 3:27 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 10/01/2022 11:02 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 9:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 3:14 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 14:22:49 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 10:11 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/22 11:07 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 11:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 8:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, she rules the roost and you cringe and cower. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can see how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would work for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you actively sit at the keyboard waiting for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something to sling a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tired insult at? The evidence seems to indicate that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has very little else to do with his miserable life,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other than sit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around waiting for his heart to stop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You really are pissed off being exposed as a faker, eh?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> QED
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the
>>>>>>>>>>> Fraudster is a
>>>>>>>>>>> fraud have been proven?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Keith's FLCJC membership must have been approved...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ROTFL, if you're not with us you must be against us eh? That
>>>>>>>>> is a pathetic philosophy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the
>>>>>>>> Fraudster is a fraud have been proven?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm saying that if you're not with us you must be against us is a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Copout!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Answer the question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> With respect SIR, I decline your demand on this occasion since it
>>>>> has been adequately answered elsewhere. So, with all due respect,
>>>>> you can just go and fuck yourself.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> so IOW you would rather align yourself with the fraudster than
>>>> retain any semblance of honesty, integrity, and decency you may
>>>> once have had. duly noted then.
>>>>
>>> I don't align myself with anybody, but, right at the moment he isn't
>>> as annoying as the little group polluting the place with reams of
>>> repetitive shit. You and your little mates need to wake up to
>>> yourselves and realise that you are achieving absolutely nothing,
>>> except to wreck what could be an interesting and useful forum. I'm
>>> not holding my breath though, your common mental condition is not
>>> going to cure itself in the short term if at all ever.
>>
>>
>> says the guy who replies with "little felix peeked..etc." and "go and
>> fuck yourself"
>>
> And your point is?

beyond your ability to grasp it seems, so I'll tell you. your
'contributions' aren't exactly meeting the standards you require of others

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"his opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster

On 13/01/2022 8:28 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 13/01/2022 5:44 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 13/01/2022 6:39 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 13/01/2022 5:14 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 13/01/2022 3:49 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 12/01/2022 3:02 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/01/2022 6:03 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 13:02:38 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 9:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 3:14 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 14:22:49 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 10:11 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/1/22 11:07 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 11:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 8:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, she rules the roost and you cringe and cower. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can see how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that would work for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you actively sit at the keyboard waiting for something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to sling a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tired insult at? The evidence seems to indicate that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has very little else to do with his miserable life,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other than sit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> around waiting for his heart to stop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You really are pissed off being exposed as a faker, eh?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> QED
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the
>>>>>>>>>> Fraudster is a
>>>>>>>>>> fraud have been proven?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Keith's FLCJC membership must have been approved...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ROTFL, if you're not with us you must be against us eh? That is a
>>>>>>>> pathetic philosophy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Speaking of "pathetic" keith... I notice that while you've
>>>>>>> managed to reply
>>>>>>> to Clock's response (technically anyway) to moi, you haven't
>>>>>>> replied to the
>>>>>>> question I put to you. Why's that keith?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unless you are the grand inquisitor (nobody expects the Spanish
>>>>>> inquisition) answers to the questions of jumped up little
>>>>>> smartarses are purely optional.
>>>>>
>>>>> That a pathetic cop-out, even for you.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> keefy keeps sinking in the mire these days. he'll eventually end up
>>>> in the sewer with the rest of the FLCJC
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Poor little felix peeked from behind the curtain and having made
>>> sure that it was safe and that his friends were protecting him,
>>> squeaked "Me too".
>>
>>
>> thank you for your significant contribution to the forum
>>
> Thank you for providing the opportunity to point out how insignificant
> your contribution to the discussion is.

thank you for continuing to reinforce my current opinion of you

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"his opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster

On 13/01/2022 3:07 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Thursday, 13 January 2022 at 14:36:38 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 13/01/2022 7:04 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 21:37:53 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ask Alvey what the name of the young Asian chick he pretended to be in
>>>> order to get into my Facebook page was :)
>>> Wow!! What a wondorous post. It may be a record for the number of stuffups
>>> in a sentence. Let's count 'em!
>>>
>>> 1. It's a lie.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> NOPE!

That's right, it's not. The stupid cunt dobbed himself in around here :)

>>> 2. Fraudster, of all people, having a whinge about someone pretending to be
>>> something they're not. Classic!
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> He`s not, however it *is* you admitting you did that which he calls you on.

Yep.

>>> 3. What exactly is wrong with adopting a nom de plume in social media,
>>> *Noddy*?
> ~~~~~~~~~
> Nothing, per se!. Why do U ask?.

>>> 4. Being a 5th rate sociopath, Der Der's post has added to my voiced
>>> suspicion that this Facie 'group' was populated entirely by his creations.
>>> Like, iirc there were 3 mods and 100 'people' in it. So how is it "my
>>> Facebook page" Der Der?
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> *He* created it.. Most definitely *HIS*

I did indeed create it, and there was only one Admin. Me. Of course, he
couldn't know any details about it at all without actually being there.
Could you Alvey? Or should I say Ching Wu?

This is the fake account he used to join the group:

> https://tinyurl.com/eefbxv5m

Anyone want to follow that up with Facebook and see where it leads?
Better hurry if you do, as I'm tipping it will disappear very quickly :)

> (And what *did* you tell the other mods to justify
>>> switching it from public to private Fraudster?)
> ~~~~~~~~~~
> Coz an inbred cunt was causing trouble..Only thing said fucktard is capable of!.
> ~~~~~~

I didn't have to tell anyone anything. There are no other Admin and I
can do whatever I like.

Of course the really funny bit was that after he'd inadvertently let the
cat out of the bag around here about his fake ID I flicked the infantile
cunt and made the group private, and he was the *only* one complaining
the very next day about how a group with 130 odd members could suddenly
up and disappear from right under his nose :)

Not very sharp is old Alvey. Not at all :)

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Noddy.

On 13/01/2022 7:27 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Thursday, 13 January 2022 at 17:40:02 UTC+11, alvey wrote:

>> To be clear, you are agreeing with the Fraudster's assertion that I
>> pretended to be an "Asian chick" in order to "get into his Facie page" (The
>> MRAG page). Could I have a Yes or No response please?
>> alvey
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Just as Keith is wont to say in response to your honours
> q`s.....*Go fuck yerself*.... <G>

It's a YES from me :)

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Regards,
Noddy.

On 13/01/2022 2:35 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Thursday, 13 January 2022 at 11:59:17 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:

>> You're as dumb as a box of hammers so you're not qualified to judge
>> others on their intelligence either.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> HEH, *That* coming from *Windscreens O' ticky* The mayor of stoopid.

ROTFL :)

Yep. Anyone who continually beats their chest about being a "licensed
Mechanic" and claiming that they had to "prove their competence" who
thought that the plastic film used in laminated windscreens goes on the
*outside* of the glass is a fucking moron who has absolutely no business
making comment about others whatsoever :)

I mean, for fuck's sake. Did this imbecile *never* fit a pair of wiper
inserts or clean a fucking windscreen?

*Jesus*....

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Noddy.