On 11/01/2022 9:51 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 11/01/2022 7:51 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 11/01/2022 6:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>>> Yeah. Didn't understand the concept of valve *float* and valve
>>> *overshoot*, both circumstances that can lead to valve impact if
>>> insufficient clearance is allowed - and a thinner shim head gasket
>>> will take that clearance down by a *lot*. I didn't expect Darren to
>>> be able to do it but I did expect Daryl to know how it's done. He is
>>> *supposedly* qualified after all. Too much time pushing a broom I
>>> guess. Checking piston to valve clearance isn't rocket science by any
>>> means and there's plenty of info on the net for the uninitiated. But
>>> to fit a thinner head gasket and *not* check the clearance, that's
>>> nothing short of *criminal*.
>>> The funny thing is, I was expecting it to be a more esoteric cause,
>>> lean combustion, injectors at 100% duty cycle or MAF sensor pinning.
>>> I was overthinking it and not making sufficient allowance for the two
>>> clowns who were working on the 4AGE(20). I trust Les has learnt his
>>> lesson.
>>>
>> So it's his fault the engine failed even though he advised Les that
>> there were serious issues with the engine and failure was likely.
>
> Actually, it was *not* my fault that the engine died, and I'll go into
> some detail as to why that is to put this ridiculous bullshit claim of
> Clasener's to bed :)
>

<snip wank>

So why did Grumpy state that you advised Les that "there were serious
issues with the engine and failure was likely."?

Secondly, people want to see proof of your claimed qualifications so
post those instead.

Photos of a detonated engine you built is hardly supporting your claim
of being qualified :-)

On 12/1/22 12:05 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 11:35:26 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>
>> On 12/01/2022 10:44 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 at 19:03:19 UTC+11, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>>> Speaking of legal action, notice how Darren *supposedly* closed his
>>>> *business* recently. That was, no doubt, due to the fact that he learnt
>>>> here that he had been making *fraudulent claims* of qualifications
>>>> pertinent to that business, including membership of the VACC. That
>>>> leaves him wide open to legal action. I wonder if the VACC are looking
>>>> into his activities? They are interested in getting fakers out of the
>>>> trade. And he did make some very fraudulent claims.
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> Made the call yet? Dobbing would be right up yer (and others) alley.! <G>
>>
>> ROTFL :)
>>
>> The VACC has no authority to "look into" anyone They're a private motor
>> trade association, not a government department. Once again the ckueless
>> fuckwit proves how clueless he actually is :)
>>
>> Hey Kryppy? Worked out the difference between piston to valve clearance
>> issues and the damage resulting from a valve failure yet?
>
> What a pair of prats.

Indeed they are.
>
> Prat 1: Outside of NSW it's actually socially desirable to "dob in" people
> who claim to be something that they are not.

And I didn't dob anyone in. All I asked of the VACC was the validity of
the claim made of membership. You saw the response they gave.

> We have no record of a 'Darren Thomas Gibbens' in our system nor
> the business names you've provided.

Confirmed that Darren was a liar (proven - yet again).

Hey, every time Darren sees his middle name, he's reminded of me. He
must really hate that! LOL
>
> Prat 2: Anyone can "look into" anything they like. eg. I've looked into
> some of your claims and found them to be lies.
>
And then, at their discretion, they pass on info to relevant
authorities. Fraud for financial gain is a criminal offence when all is
said and done.
>
> alvey
>

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 12/1/22 12:12 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 11/01/2022 9:51 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 11/01/2022 7:51 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>> On 11/01/2022 6:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>>> Yeah. Didn't understand the concept of valve *float* and valve
>>>> *overshoot*, both circumstances that can lead to valve impact if
>>>> insufficient clearance is allowed - and a thinner shim head gasket
>>>> will take that clearance down by a *lot*. I didn't expect Darren to
>>>> be able to do it but I did expect Daryl to know how it's done. He is
>>>> *supposedly* qualified after all. Too much time pushing a broom I
>>>> guess. Checking piston to valve clearance isn't rocket science by
>>>> any means and there's plenty of info on the net for the uninitiated.
>>>> But to fit a thinner head gasket and *not* check the clearance,
>>>> that's nothing short of *criminal*.
>>>> The funny thing is, I was expecting it to be a more esoteric cause,
>>>> lean combustion, injectors at 100% duty cycle or MAF sensor pinning.
>>>> I was overthinking it and not making sufficient allowance for the
>>>> two clowns who were working on the 4AGE(20). I trust Les has learnt
>>>> his lesson.
>>>>
>>> So it's his fault the engine failed even though he advised Les that
>>> there were serious issues with the engine and failure was likely.
>>
>> Actually, it was *not* my fault that the engine died, and I'll go into
>> some detail as to why that is to put this ridiculous bullshit claim of
>> Clasener's to bed :)
>>
>
>
> <snip wank>
>
> So why did Grumpy state that you advised Les that "there were serious
> issues with the engine and failure was likely."?
>
> Secondly, people want to see proof of your claimed qualifications so
> post those instead.
>
> Photos of a detonated engine you built is hardly supporting your claim
> of being qualified :-)

It supports *my claim* about him being a faker. Love it!

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Wednesday, 12 January 2022 at 01:26:50 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 12/01/2022 12:51 am, Noddy wrote:
> > On 11/01/2022 7:51 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> >> On 11/01/2022 6:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
> >
> >>> Yeah. Didn't understand the concept of valve *float* and valve
> >>> *overshoot*, both circumstances that can lead to valve impact if
> >>> insufficient clearance is allowed - and a thinner shim head gasket
> >>> will take that clearance down by a *lot*. I didn't expect Darren to
> >>> be able to do it but I did expect Daryl to know how it's done. He is
> >>> *supposedly* qualified after all. Too much time pushing a broom I
> >>> guess. Checking piston to valve clearance isn't rocket science by
> >>> any means and there's plenty of info on the net for the uninitiated.
> >>> But to fit a thinner head gasket and *not* check the clearance,
> >>> that's nothing short of *criminal*.
> >>> The funny thing is, I was expecting it to be a more esoteric cause,
> >>> lean combustion, injectors at 100% duty cycle or MAF sensor pinning.
> >>> I was overthinking it and not making sufficient allowance for the
> >>> two clowns who were working on the 4AGE(20). I trust Les has learnt
> >>> his lesson.
> >>>
> >> So it's his fault the engine failed even though he advised Les that
> >> there were serious issues with the engine and failure was likely.
> >
> > Actually, it was *not* my fault that the engine died, and I'll go into
> > some detail as to why that is to put this ridiculous bullshit claim of
> > Clasener's to bed :)
> >
> >> I'm guessing Les wanted to compete and went with the motor anyway as
> >> availability of a replacement motor in a limited timeframe may have
> >> been an issue.
> >
> > The issue with this engine was that Les was trying to build it on a
> > budget, using parts from an engine that had already failed before I
> > ever laid my hands on it.
> >
> >> Wouldn't be the first time someone has failed to take advice and it's
> >> cost them dearly.
> >
> > No, but in fairness to Les and myself, the cause of this engine's
> > demise had nothing to do with either of us. Well, at least certainly
> > not me :)
> >
> > For those who don't know and who may be half interested in discovering
> > the truth of this matter, the engine in question was a Toyota 4AGE 20
> > valve, known as a "Gold Top" of I remember correctly, and this is the
> > engine here:
> >
> >> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PME
> >
> > It's a 1600cc 4 cylinder "high performance" engine that has a fairly
> > high output for it's capacity and a healthy appetite for rpm, which
> > Daryl's mate Les used to use in his Lotus 7 Replica for competition work:
> >
> >> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69Q3J
> >
> > Now, it's been Clasener's claim for a while that this engine died as a
> > result of insufficient piston to valve clearance, and this is claim is
> > absolutely fraudulent. It is a complete fabrication invented by
> > Clasener for the sole purpose of having something to argue about. In
> > reality, and as usual, he is *completely* wrong and has achieved
> > nothing other than making a complete moron out of himself.
> >
> > Allow me to show how :)
> >
> > This engine was originally brought to me in around August of 2016
> > after it had suffered a catastrophic failure. It actually broke a
> > factory rod through the beam, which trashed the block and made a mess
> > of the head, and damaged the crank and piston.
> >
> >> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PTY
> >> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PU1
> >> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PU3
> >> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PU4
> >> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PU6
> >
> > This failure occurred before I had done any serious work on this
> > engine, and in fact up until this point about all I had ever done to
> > the engine was to fabricate a baffle for the oil pan and measure it's
> > capacity while it was off, as the pan had been shortened to suit the
> > chassis and it's oil level needed to be measured.
> >
> > Once this engine was dismantled Les set off to find a replacement
> > engine, and the cylinder head was taken to his guys who had worked it
> > before to repair the damage and make some new valves.
> >
> > Once all the parts were finally obtained they were delivered to me and
> > my job was to assemble the engine, modify the windage tray and oil
> > pick up to suit the oil pan, set the valve clearances and dial in the
> > camshafts. Only parts of the replacement engine were used, principally
> > the block and crank, as other parts from the old engine were still
> > perfectly serviceable. The three surviving pistons from the old engine
> > were retained as they were already oversize which allowed the new
> > block to be bored to suit them, and a 4th piston was machined up from
> > a semi finished blank to replace the one that was damaged from the old
> > engine.
> >
> > New after market connecting rods were used, and despite the damage it
> > suffered the original cylinder head was retained as it had already
> > been subject to extensive port work and it was highly desirable for
> > that not to be lost. The original camshafts were put back into service.
> >
> > The engine went together will with only a few niggles worth noting.
> > The main one was that the person doing the bore and hone work was
> > pretty average and their sizings were all over the place. The crank
> > grind was perfect with exact sizes from front to rear, and the new
> > rods were very good.
> >
> > This is the windage tray and oil pickup:
> >
> >> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PLQ
> >> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PLR
> >
> > Normally this oil pickup would sit up about 3 inches higher than this,
> > and the slot cut into the windage tray wouldn't be necessary. But
> > because this engine sat so low in the chassis and didn't run a dry
> > sump system it was necessary to bury this pickup as high up into the
> > engine as possible so it would clear the modified oil pan, and it only
> > cleared the crank web by about half an inch. The brazing on the
> > bottom of the pickup tube where it goes into the timing cover is were
> > it was cut and shortened.
> >
> > Here, after final clearance checking, the short motor is assembled.
> > Crank bolts triple torqued as per specifications and rod bolt tension
> > set with a stretch gauge. Al the bottom end clearances were right down
> > the middle which is exactly where I wanted them to be.
> >
> >> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69RAI
> >
> > Now we get to the juicy stuff which will show Clasener up as the shit
> > talking clueless windbag that he is.
> >
> > Here's a few pics of the top of the engine and with the gasket in
> > place before the head is finally ready to go on:
> >
> >> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PLP
> >> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PLS
> >> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PLT
> >
> > Now, to the keen eye there's a few things to observe in these pics.
> >
> > In the first instance, you can see the three used pistons which were
> > in excellent shape, and the one new one. Secondly, you can see the
> > competition head gasket that was used, which is a compressible gasket
> > and not a "shim" as Clasener incorrectly refers to it, and lastly you
> > can see the remains of the pink plasticine that was used to check the
> > pison to valve clearances on the exhaust valve releifs of the number
> > one piston :)
> >
> > Inlet and exhaust clearances where checked on all four pistons which
> > is standard procedure, and especially in an engine using non standard
> > connecting rods, but residue of the plasticine only remained on the
> > exhaust cut outs on the number one piston as they were a rough "as
> > cast" finish where all the other surfaces were machined smooth. I
> > wasn't all that fussed about cleaning it off as it would burn off the
> > moment the engine was first fired :)
> >
> > Setting the valve clearances was the last major task:
> >
> >> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PM9
> >
> > This is with the cams removed obviously, and the various markings on
> > the head show where I'd been measuring clearances and swapping shims
> > around to get within spec.
> >
> > The 4AEG engine uses a cam follower bucket system as can be seen, with
> > the clearance adjustment shim being a small pad not much bigger in
> > diameter than the valve stem that sits in a recessed pocket in the
> > bottom of the bucket between the bucket and valve tip. The come in
> > various thicknesses, but unless you have access to a great many of
> > them setting the valve clearances on engines like these can be a pain.
> > Especially when the people doing the cylinder head work aren't all
> > that concerned about how much they cut out of the seat or they grind
> > off the tip of the valve.
> >
> > It took an entire day to set the clearances using the limited
> > assortment of shims that I had, and in the end I had to grind many of
> > them on the surface grinder using a custom jig to hold them securely
> > on the magnetic chuck.
> >
> > Finally, the clearances were set and the camshafts installed for good,
> > and it was ready for it's timing belt and to be put back into the car.
> >
> >> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69S4W
> >
> > So, after all this long winded chest beating, what have we learned?
> >
> > What we've learned is that apart from a little bit of piston to bore
> > clearance variation which Les was advised could lead to a bit of ring
> > flutter and oil control problem, this engine went together well and
> > had no clearance issues whatsoever. The engine was installed back into
> > the car and test fired by me and it fired straight up with excellent
> > oil pressure and had no temperature issues.
> >
> > At this point the car was handed back to Les were it was booked into a
> > dyno session. It ran the dyno session successfully where it bed in
> > nicely, and as Les was still playing with tune settings a second dyno
> > session was booked not long after. Subsequently to this it did a full
> > test and tune day at Winton raceway before it was packed onto it's
> > trailer and taken to Bathurst for a class race meeting which was the
> > ultimate purpose of having done all this work in the first place.
> >
> > And it was at Bathurst where things turned to shit.
> >
> > On the seventh Lap of Les's race, as he was coming through the Chase
> > at the end of Conrod Straight, the engine had a change of exhaust note
> > and blew a heavy plume of white smoke out of the exhaust. It was
> > instantaneous, and it was abundantly clear that something in the
> > engine had broken, and it's race meeting was over.
> >
> > Les returned to Melbourne and brought the car around for me to look at
> > where he showed me the video of the failure taking place, and after
> > pulling a plug and looking into the cylinder with a Borescope it was
> > obvious that the engine had dropped a valve and suffered a terminal
> > failure.
> >
> > I didn't do anything else to it, and Les went home with his tail
> > between his legs and pulled the engine apart to see for himself. Once
> > he did, he sent me these photos.
> >
> >> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PMI
> >> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PMH
> >
> > What these pictures show is that an exhaust valve on number one
> > cylinder has hit a piston, but moreover it did so while the valve was
> > fully open at the limit of it's travel. That much is obvious from the
> > fact that the valve was snapped off around half way up it's stem, and
> > as the piston turned it sideways and tried to bury it into the seat
> > pocket it caused the piston to rock in it's bore pushing it hard up
> > against the cylinder wall and splitting it open.
> >
> > Anyone who has even the most "basic" of engine experience will tell
> > you that this is most decidedly *not* the result of inadequate piston
> > to valve clearance :)
> >
> > In the case of piston to valve clearance issues, you mostly see it on
> > inlet valves as with big overlap cams like this engine ran the inlet
> > valve begins opening very early while the piston is still moving up
> > the bore towards top dead centre. As the two are moving towards each
> > other interference can occur if clearances are not where they're
> > supposed to be. In the case of exhaust valves it's a different story
> > as the exhaust valve is moving *away* from the piston as the piston
> > nears top dead centre, and as a result piston to valve contact with
> > exhaust valves is quite rare. Not impossible, but certainly far less
> > likely than it can be with inlet valves.
> >
> > However in either case the net result is usually the same in that
> > unless you have things stupidly wrong about the most you'll ever see
> > happen in the case of piston to valve contact near the very end
> > (exhaust) or very beginning (inlet) of the valve's period is for the
> > valve to bend slightly just behind the head, which will result in the
> > valve no longer sealing against it's seat resulting in a loss of
> > compression in that cylinder.
> >
> > And that is *not* what happened in the case of Les's engine.
> >
> > In Les's case the exhaust valve came into contact with the piston
> > while the valve was at or near the fully open position, and there is
> > basically only two ways for that to occur. Either the valve grabbed in
> > it's guide, or it "dropped" into the cylinder after losing a collet or
> > had a collet groove failure which unloaded the valve spring. I never
> > got to see the remains of the top half of the valve so I can't tell
> > you exactly, and while I wasn't at the track to see where Les was
> > running his mixtures and have no idea how hot it was getting I'd
> > happily bet that Les was running the thing fairly conservatively given
> > that he had a habit of doing so and was familiar with the setup of the
> > vehicle. Either the valve guide clearance was too tight or the valve
> > failed prematurely, but either way given that I had nothing to do with
> > the head it had nothing to do with me.
> >
> > Some important points to bear in mind here are that a piston to valve
> > clearance issue is a mechanical issue that is evident from the first
> > time the engine is turned over in extreme cases, and certainly from
> > the first time the engine reaches operating temperature in borderline
> > cases. However in *all* cases it is *not* a problem that will suddenly
> > magically appear after an engine has done some time at full noise like
> > this one did, and if Clasener and and his clog wearing puppy dog had
> > *any* idea at all they would *know* this.
> >
> > But apparently they did not. Or they did and ignored it and just
> > invented whatever bullshit story they wanted to crow about, because
> > hey it's not like they've never done that before, right?
> >
> > These people are fucking *imbeciles* who would be incapable of holding
> > down a job for more than a day in any decent workshop where you had to
> > reply on your skills and knowledge to get by....
> >
> >> You really need to get over your obsession with abusing Noddy. You're
> >> not perfect yourself and anyone who saw the tractor split would agree.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Have to disagree. That method is used by myself (and all others I know that do this type of work) in a field situation, completely safe.. As long as the work is performed by *Competent ppl*.
(I`m ahead of you incompetents....So, don`t bother.)
> >
> > "Not perfect" is being extremely generous. Completely clueless would
> > be more accurate.
> >
> >
> nice pictures. now how about some of your trade qualifications? or
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``~~~~

On 12/01/2022 11:21 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 at 23:35:04 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 11/01/2022 5:56 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 11/01/2022 2:46 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 at 01:08:47 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> the way you posted them ppl had to clik each one, and they loaded
>>>>> slowly, as some complained. I put them all on one page, and as I recall
>>>>> at least one person was appreciative. I think it was fred. but you
>>>>> being
>>>>> the mental retard that you are, couldn't fathom that that was a good
>>>>> thing. doing something nice for your fellow man is never in your
>>>>> agenda,
>>>>> or what passes for your mind.
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~```
>>>> Diddums want a hanky?.... <G>
>>> Felix, you're a fucking idiot. If I *wanted* that done I'm more than
>>> capable of doing it myself.
>> I doubt that very much. or perhaps you could point me to some websites
>> you've created, or some domain that you own?
> ~~~
> Hey, it was concerning *his* pics that were *fucked about with* by *you*.
> Nothing more, nothing less!. Get off yer high horse petey..

as I said in another post, there's no need for you to keep providing
examples of your abject stupidy. it's a well known fact.  the fraudster
made a claim, I disputed that claim. dem deres da facts. your comment is
just irrelevant babble.

>
>>> I don't need a retard the likes of you to "help" me. Quite simply, how
>>> & where I posted them was none of your business, and it wasn't your
>>> job to correct it.
>>>
>>> Glad to have jogged your memory, but you need to appreciate that not
>>> everyone wants you to do them "favours".
>>>
>>>
>> I wasn't doing YOU a favor, I was doing the ppl here a favor, you
>> fucking moron.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Theres nothing more scawwy than pete in full flight.

be afwaid, be vewy afwaid..

--
"his opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster

On 12/01/2022 9:12 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 12/01/2022 7:19 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 23:04:01 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/01/2022 10:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 11/1/22 11:23 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>> On 11/01/2022 8:10 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing that was worthwhile reading.
>>>>>
>>>>> You just don't get it xeno. Nobody gives a toss about your obsession.
>>>>> Build a bridge.
>>>>>
>>> Snipped more bile.
>> "bile"? Jaysus Gumps! If that was bile, how would you describe the
>> average
>> Fraudster post? (You do read them don't you?)
>
>
> read them? he prints them out and frames them. :)
>
>

lol, so would Jonz if he could work a printer.

On 12/01/2022 11:40 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 12/01/2022 11:21 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 at 23:35:04 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> Felix, you're a fucking idiot. If I *wanted* that done I'm more than
>>>> capable of doing it myself.
>>> I doubt that very much. or perhaps you could point me to some websites
>>> you've created, or some domain that you own?
>> ~~~
>>   Hey, it was concerning *his* pics that were *fucked about with* by
>> *you*.
>>      Nothing more, nothing less!. Get off yer high horse petey..
>
> Yep. What he did or *why* he was doing it is completely irrelevant.
> The reality is that it wasn't his place to do so,

au contrire. when you post anything publicly you have no control over
whatever anyone may do with it.

> and in an added irony attraction he must feel like an even bigger
> fuckwit now that he's been reminded of this in light of his recent
> comments about leaving people's pictures where they are.
>
>>>> Glad to have jogged your memory, but you need to appreciate that not
>>>> everyone wants you to do them "favours".
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I wasn't doing YOU a favor, I was doing the ppl here a favor, you
>>> fucking moron.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>     Theres nothing more scawwy than pete in full flight. (well,
>> krypsis and a few others as well.) <BG>
>
> Again, irrespective of *why* he was doing it, it was not his place to
> do so.
>
> Simple fact of the matter here Felix is *no one* asked for your help,
> so fuck up and mind your business.
>
>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp6KExqs_3o

--
"his opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster

On 12/01/2022 9:15 am, Xeno wrote:
> On 12/1/22 12:05 pm, alvey wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 11:35:26 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/01/2022 10:44 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 at 19:03:19 UTC+11, Xeno wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Speaking of legal action, notice how Darren *supposedly* closed his
>>>>> *business* recently. That was, no doubt, due to the fact that he
>>>>> learnt
>>>>> here that he had been making *fraudulent claims* of qualifications
>>>>> pertinent to that business, including membership of the VACC. That
>>>>> leaves him wide open to legal action. I wonder if the VACC are looking
>>>>> into his activities? They are interested in getting fakers out of the
>>>>> trade. And he did make some very fraudulent claims.
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>    Made the call yet?  Dobbing would be right up yer (and others)
>>>> alley.! <G>
>>>
>>> ROTFL :)
>>>
>>> The VACC has no authority to "look into" anyone They're a private motor
>>> trade association, not a government department. Once again the ckueless
>>> fuckwit proves how clueless he actually is :)
>>>
>>> Hey Kryppy? Worked out the difference between piston to valve clearance
>>> issues and the damage resulting from a valve failure yet?
>>
>> What a pair of prats.
>
> Indeed they are.
>>
>> Prat 1: Outside of NSW it's actually socially desirable to "dob in"
>> people
>> who claim to be something that they are not.
>
> And I didn't dob anyone in. All I asked of the VACC was the validity of
> the claim made of membership. You saw the response they gave.
>
> > We have no record of a 'Darren Thomas Gibbens' in our system nor
> > the business names you've provided.
>
> Confirmed that Darren was a liar (proven - yet again).
>
> Hey, every time Darren sees his middle name, he's reminded of me. He
> must really hate that!   LOL
>>
>> Prat 2: Anyone can "look into" anything they like. eg. I've looked into
>> some of your claims and found them to be lies.
>>
> And then, at their discretion, they pass on info to relevant
> authorities. Fraud for financial gain is a criminal offence when all is
> said and done.
>>
>> alvey
>>
>
>

It sure is.

On 12/01/2022 12:24 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 12/01/2022 9:12 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 12/01/2022 7:19 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 23:04:01 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/01/2022 10:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 11/1/22 11:23 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/01/2022 8:10 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing that was worthwhile reading.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You just don't get it xeno. Nobody gives a toss about your
>>>>>> obsession.
>>>>>> Build a bridge.
>>>>>>
>>>> Snipped more bile.
>>> "bile"? Jaysus Gumps! If that was bile, how would you describe the
>>> average
>>> Fraudster post? (You do read them don't you?)
>>
>>
>> read them? he prints them out and frames them. :)
>>
>>
>
> lol, so would Jonz if he could work a printer.

LOL

--
"his opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster

On 12/01/2022 4:59 am, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 19:25:39 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>
>> On 11/01/2022 6:29 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 15:59:31 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone watch the last session of the SCG Test?
>>>
>>> If you thought it was tense, spare a thought for those of us who'd put
>>> their money on a draw. "Could I have another bourbon and beta blocker
>>> thanks?"
>>
>> Not a single fuck was given around here.
>
> Little Known Fact: There are actually two 'Mile High Clubs'. The one where
> you have a meaningful interface mid-flight, and the lesser known one where
> something passes a mile over your head.
>
> btw keith, am still waiting for you to answer my question to you re your
> opinion on the validity of *all* the Fraudsters' Big Claims.
>
> oty. Again.
>
>
>
> alvey
>
>

Another question paradox keith is going to dodge...

On 12/1/22 12:51 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 11/01/2022 7:51 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 11/01/2022 6:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>>> Yeah. Didn't understand the concept of valve *float* and valve
>>> *overshoot*, both circumstances that can lead to valve impact if
>>> insufficient clearance is allowed - and a thinner shim head gasket
>>> will take that clearance down by a *lot*. I didn't expect Darren to
>>> be able to do it but I did expect Daryl to know how it's done. He is
>>> *supposedly* qualified after all. Too much time pushing a broom I
>>> guess. Checking piston to valve clearance isn't rocket science by any
>>> means and there's plenty of info on the net for the uninitiated. But
>>> to fit a thinner head gasket and *not* check the clearance, that's
>>> nothing short of *criminal*.
>>> The funny thing is, I was expecting it to be a more esoteric cause,
>>> lean combustion, injectors at 100% duty cycle or MAF sensor pinning.
>>> I was overthinking it and not making sufficient allowance for the two
>>> clowns who were working on the 4AGE(20). I trust Les has learnt his
>>> lesson.
>>>
>> So it's his fault the engine failed even though he advised Les that
>> there were serious issues with the engine and failure was likely.
>
> Actually, it was *not* my fault that the engine died, and I'll go into
> some detail as to why that is to put this ridiculous bullshit claim of
> Clasener's to bed :)

LOL, only a professional like yourself would have recorded and or
remembered so much detail:-)
I worked on that engine as well but apparently its all your fault.
That car was put back together with an engine that was closer to stock
and sold quite a while ago so I can't recall even a quarter of the details.
Done so much work on the 2 race cars he has now that I'd almost
forgotten the green car.
I was rebuilding a T50 gearbox today after waiting more than 5mths for a
new TRD close ratio gear set, whilst I was working on the gearbox Les
removed the old one from the car.
T50's used to be as cheap as chips but they are getting so rare they are
like gold, the rebuild has cost $4500 in parts.

--
Daryl

On 12/1/22 3:21 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 12/1/22 12:51 am, Noddy wrote:
>> On 11/01/2022 7:51 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>> On 11/01/2022 6:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>>> Yeah. Didn't understand the concept of valve *float* and valve
>>>> *overshoot*, both circumstances that can lead to valve impact if
>>>> insufficient clearance is allowed - and a thinner shim head gasket
>>>> will take that clearance down by a *lot*. I didn't expect Darren to
>>>> be able to do it but I did expect Daryl to know how it's done. He is
>>>> *supposedly* qualified after all. Too much time pushing a broom I
>>>> guess. Checking piston to valve clearance isn't rocket science by
>>>> any means and there's plenty of info on the net for the uninitiated.
>>>> But to fit a thinner head gasket and *not* check the clearance,
>>>> that's nothing short of *criminal*.
>>>> The funny thing is, I was expecting it to be a more esoteric cause,
>>>> lean combustion, injectors at 100% duty cycle or MAF sensor pinning.
>>>> I was overthinking it and not making sufficient allowance for the
>>>> two clowns who were working on the 4AGE(20). I trust Les has learnt
>>>> his lesson.
>>>>
>>> So it's his fault the engine failed even though he advised Les that
>>> there were serious issues with the engine and failure was likely.
>>
>> Actually, it was *not* my fault that the engine died, and I'll go into
>> some detail as to why that is to put this ridiculous bullshit claim of
>> Clasener's to bed :)
>
> LOL, only a professional like yourself would have recorded and or

A professional? Hahahahahhahahahaha That is so funny.

If he was a professional the car would still be running on the rebuild
engine. And winning races.

> remembered so much detail:-)

Liars need a good memory. They need to remember the bullshit they spew.
And Darren is the liar to beat them all. 20+ years of the same self
aggrandising lies. That must be something of a record.

> I worked on that engine as well but apparently its all your fault.

Yeah, I made the point that both of you screwed up.

> That car was put back together with an engine that was closer to stock
> and sold quite a while ago so I can't recall even a quarter of the details.

It's better off in the hands of someone, anyone, who's likely to be a
real professional.

> Done so much work on the 2 race cars he has now that I'd almost
> forgotten the green car.
> I was rebuilding a T50 gearbox today after waiting more than 5mths for a
> new TRD close ratio gear set, whilst I was working on the gearbox Les
> removed the old one from the car.
> T50's used to be as cheap as chips but they are getting so rare they are
> like gold, the rebuild has cost $4500 in parts.
>
>

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 12/01/2022 3:21 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 12/1/22 12:51 am, Noddy wrote:

>> Actually, it was *not* my fault that the engine died, and I'll go into
>> some detail as to why that is to put this ridiculous bullshit claim of
>> Clasener's to bed :)
>
> LOL, only a professional like yourself would have recorded and or
> remembered so much detail:-)

I take photos of everything and make notes. Been doing it for years, and
it's because I often *can't* remember :) Taking photos is a good idea.
Especially if it's some time between dismantling and assembling and
you've done a tonne of crap in between.

> I worked on that engine as well but apparently its all your fault.

It was fine when I handed it over, you fucking figiting cunt :)

> That car was put back together with an engine that was closer to stock
> and sold quite a while ago so I can't recall even a quarter of the details.
> Done so much work on the 2 race cars he has now that I'd almost
> forgotten the green car.

I'm sure he has.

> I was rebuilding a T50 gearbox today after waiting more than 5mths for a
> new TRD close ratio gear set, whilst I was working on the gearbox Les
> removed the old one from the car.
> T50's used to be as cheap as chips but they are getting so rare they are
> like gold, the rebuild has cost $4500 in parts.

Everything's out of control at the moment.

I've been flogging off some Holley carburetors lately as at last count I
had 13 of the things in various guises laying around that I'm never
going to use, so I recondition them and sell them. They come up really
nice. I rebush the throttle shafts, recolour the zinc bodies and put a
kit through them and I've been getting more for them today as
"reconditioned" carburetors than what they cost new 2 years ago.

It's crazy.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 12/01/2022 4:04 am, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 22:18:56 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>
>> On 11/01/2022 8:36 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 11/01/2022 5:56 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 11/01/2022 2:46 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 at 01:08:47 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> the way you posted them ppl had to clik each one, and they loaded
>>>>>> slowly, as some complained. I put them all on one page, and as I recall
>>>>>> at least one person was appreciative. I think it was fred. but you
>>>>>> being
>>>>>> the mental retard that you are, couldn't fathom that that was a good
>>>>>> thing. doing something nice for your fellow man is never in your
>>>>>> agenda,
>>>>>> or what passes for your mind.
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~```
>>>>> Diddums want a hanky?.... <G>
>>>>
>>>> Felix, you're a fucking idiot. If I *wanted* that done I'm more than
>>>> capable of doing it myself.
>>>
>>> I doubt that very much. or perhaps you could point me to some websites
>>> you've created, or some domain that you own?
>>>
>>>> I don't need a retard the likes of you to "help" me. Quite simply, how
>>>> & where I posted them was none of your business, and it wasn't your
>>>> job to correct it.
>>>>
>>>> Glad to have jogged your memory, but you need to appreciate that not
>>>> everyone wants you to do them "favours".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I wasn't doing YOU a favor, I was doing the ppl here a favor, you
>>> fucking moron.
>>>
>>
>> He should do his own kid a favour and put a provided seat belt on him
>> which is his legal and moral obligation but hey, since he can't be
>> bothered with that don't expect him to be able to comprehend that
>> sometimes people do favours for others.
>
> Fraudster is so mean-spirited and self-centred that he charges his
> imaginary friends $200 for "car spotting"...
>
>
>
> alvey
>

I remember him crowing about the really supa deal he squeezed out of the
dealer on his wifes Hyundai. He really showed those bastards... except
the supa-dooper squeezed them hard figure he quoted as paying was the
full whack RRP for that vehicle off the Hyundai website for that model.

Only imaginary friends would pay him $200 over RRP for his car spotting
"service", in reality the dealer would pay him $200 for bringing the
mugs in for such a great deal - for them!

On 12/01/2022 12:21 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 12/1/22 12:51 am, Noddy wrote:
>> On 11/01/2022 7:51 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>> On 11/01/2022 6:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>>> Yeah. Didn't understand the concept of valve *float* and valve
>>>> *overshoot*, both circumstances that can lead to valve impact if
>>>> insufficient clearance is allowed - and a thinner shim head gasket
>>>> will take that clearance down by a *lot*. I didn't expect Darren to
>>>> be able to do it but I did expect Daryl to know how it's done. He is
>>>> *supposedly* qualified after all. Too much time pushing a broom I
>>>> guess. Checking piston to valve clearance isn't rocket science by
>>>> any means and there's plenty of info on the net for the uninitiated.
>>>> But to fit a thinner head gasket and *not* check the clearance,
>>>> that's nothing short of *criminal*.
>>>> The funny thing is, I was expecting it to be a more esoteric cause,
>>>> lean combustion, injectors at 100% duty cycle or MAF sensor pinning.
>>>> I was overthinking it and not making sufficient allowance for the
>>>> two clowns who were working on the 4AGE(20). I trust Les has learnt
>>>> his lesson.
>>>>
>>> So it's his fault the engine failed even though he advised Les that
>>> there were serious issues with the engine and failure was likely.
>>
>> Actually, it was *not* my fault that the engine died, and I'll go into
>> some detail as to why that is to put this ridiculous bullshit claim of
>> Clasener's to bed :)
>
> LOL, only a professional like yourself would have recorded and or
> remembered so much detail:-)

Covering arse and shifting blame more like. You're so gullible.

On 12/01/2022 1:14 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 12/01/2022 3:21 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 12/1/22 12:51 am, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> Actually, it was *not* my fault that the engine died, and I'll go
>>> into some detail as to why that is to put this ridiculous bullshit
>>> claim of Clasener's to bed :)
>>
>> LOL, only a professional like yourself would have recorded and or
>> remembered so much detail:-)
>
> I take photos of everything and make notes. Been doing it for years, and
> it's because I often *can't* remember :) Taking photos is a good idea.
> Especially if it's some time between dismantling and assembling and
> you've done a tonne of crap in between.
>
>> I worked on that engine as well but apparently its all your fault.
>
> It was fine when I handed it over, you fucking figiting cunt :)
>

Still looking to shift blame are you now suggesting he stuck his mop in
there and fucked it up?

On 12/01/2022 6:59 am, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 19:25:39 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>
>> On 11/01/2022 6:29 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 15:59:31 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone watch the last session of the SCG Test?
>>>
>>> If you thought it was tense, spare a thought for those of us who'd put
>>> their money on a draw. "Could I have another bourbon and beta blocker
>>> thanks?"
>>
>> Not a single fuck was given around here.
>
> Little Known Fact: There are actually two 'Mile High Clubs'. The one where
> you have a meaningful interface mid-flight, and the lesser known one where
> something passes a mile over your head.

Not a single fuck is given around here.

> btw keith, am still waiting for you to answer my question to you re your
> opinion on the validity of *all* the Fraudsters' Big Claims.

I have no evidence on which to base an opinion about "The Fraudsters'
Big Claims". The only evidence the I have about Noddy is his address and
the business name that he owns.

Come to that, I have no evidence that you own a Merc and live on the
sunshine coast, for all I know, you could be an elderly lesbian living
on a disability pension in Redbank Plains driving a 1968 Corolla.

I have no evidence that Clocky is a qualified mechanic or even an
unqualified one.

I know xenos address, but have no evidence about anything else that he
claims.

I know that Felix asks stupid questions and then complains if the
answers do not match the ones that he wants to hear.

Therefor I draw no opinions about the whole mod other than you post a
lot of meaningless repetitive shit every day.

On 12/01/2022 11:47 am, Clocky wrote:
> On 12/01/2022 4:59 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 19:25:39 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/01/2022 6:29 am, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 15:59:31 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Anyone watch the last session of the SCG Test?
>>>>
>>>> If you thought it was tense, spare a thought for those of us who'd put
>>>> their money on a draw. "Could I have another bourbon and beta blocker
>>>> thanks?"
>>>
>>> Not a single fuck was given around here.
>>
>> Little Known Fact: There are actually two 'Mile High Clubs'. The one
>> where
>> you have a meaningful interface mid-flight, and the lesser known one
>> where
>> something passes a mile over your head.
>>
>> btw keith, am still waiting for you to answer my question to you re your
>> opinion on the validity of *all* the Fraudsters' Big Claims.
>>
>> oty. Again.
>>
>>
>>
>> alvey
>>
>>
>
> Another question paradox keith is going to dodge...

See my reply to your smartarse little friend above

On 10/01/2022 3:27 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 10/01/2022 11:02 am, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 9/01/2022 9:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 9/01/2022 3:14 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 14:22:49 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/01/2022 10:11 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/1/22 11:07 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 11:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 8:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, she rules the roost and you cringe and cower. I can see how
>>>>>>>>> that would work for you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you actively sit at the keyboard waiting for something to
>>>>>>>> sling a
>>>>>>>> tired insult at? The evidence seems to indicate that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He has very little else to do with his miserable life, other than
>>>>>>> sit
>>>>>>> around waiting for his heart to stop.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You really are pissed off being exposed as a faker, eh?
>>>>>>
>>>>> QED
>>>>
>>>> Really?
>>>>
>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the Fraudster is a
>>>> fraud have been proven?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> alvey
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Keith's FLCJC membership must have been approved...
>>
>> ROTFL, if you're not with us you must be against us eh? That is a
>> pathetic philosophy.
>>
>
>
>
> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the Fraudster is a
> fraud have been proven?

I'm saying that if you're not with us you must be against us is a
pathetic philosophy, but you seem to espouse it. If pathetic
philosophies are your thing, as it would appear, the that is up to you
but expect it to lower peoples opinion of you.

On 11/01/2022 6:58 am, alvey wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 13:27:02 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>
>> On 10/01/2022 11:02 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 9/01/2022 9:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 9/01/2022 3:14 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 14:22:49 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/01/2022 10:11 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/1/22 11:07 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 11:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 8:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, she rules the roost and you cringe and cower. I can see how
>>>>>>>>>> that would work for you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you actively sit at the keyboard waiting for something to sling a
>>>>>>>>> tired insult at? The evidence seems to indicate that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He has very little else to do with his miserable life, other than sit
>>>>>>>> around waiting for his heart to stop.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You really are pissed off being exposed as a faker, eh?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> QED
>>>>>
>>>>> Really?
>>>>>
>>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the Fraudster is a
>>>>> fraud have been proven?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> alvey
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Keith's FLCJC membership must have been approved...
>>>
>>> ROTFL, if you're not with us you must be against us eh? That is a
>>> pathetic philosophy.
>>>
>>
>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the Fraudster is a
>> fraud have been proven?
>
> Looks like keith's TLA of QED has ended with a TKO...

Some ref you'd be holding up an unconscious clockys arm as winner to the
boos of a fair minded crowd.

On 10/01/2022 6:03 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 13:02:38 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>
>> On 9/01/2022 9:59 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 9/01/2022 3:14 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 14:22:49 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/01/2022 10:11 am, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/1/22 11:07 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 11:53 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/01/2022 8:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, she rules the roost and you cringe and cower. I can see how
>>>>>>>>> that would work for you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you actively sit at the keyboard waiting for something to sling a
>>>>>>>> tired insult at? The evidence seems to indicate that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He has very little else to do with his miserable life, other than sit
>>>>>>> around waiting for his heart to stop.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You really are pissed off being exposed as a faker, eh?
>>>>>>
>>>>> QED
>>>>
>>>> Really?
>>>>
>>>> So you're saying that *none* of the allegations that the Fraudster is a
>>>> fraud have been proven?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> alvey
>>>>
>>>
>>> Keith's FLCJC membership must have been approved...
>>
>> ROTFL, if you're not with us you must be against us eh? That is a
>> pathetic philosophy.
>
> Speaking of "pathetic" keith... I notice that while you've managed to reply
> to Clock's response (technically anyway) to moi, you haven't replied to the
> question I put to you. Why's that keith?

Unless you are the grand inquisitor (nobody expects the Spanish
inquisition) answers to the questions of jumped up little smartarses are
purely optional.

On 11/01/2022 10:48 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 11/01/2022 8:20 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 11/01/2022 12:19 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 10/01/2022 10:48 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 10/01/2022 2:59 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 10/01/2022 2:58 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm an arsehole
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>> I see what you did there felix, very clever and witty too clap clap
>>>> clap.
>>>>
>>>> Alvey will have to watch out, if you keep this standard of work up,
>>>> he may become surplus to requirements.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not as clever as he
>>>
>>>
>> You're not even as clever as alvey?
>
>
> yes, I'm just being honest
>
>
>> You poor thing, you must be the weakest link.
>
>
> I wouldn't wish to usurp your title

Ooh crushing wit </sarcasm> I'll ask my 4 year old great-granddaughter
if she has a reply to that, it's about her level.

On 12/01/2022 6:45 am, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 19:20:39 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>
>> On 11/01/2022 12:19 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 10/01/2022 10:48 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 10/01/2022 2:59 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 10/01/2022 2:58 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm an arsehole
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>> I see what you did there felix, very clever and witty too clap clap clap.
>>>>
>>>> Alvey will have to watch out, if you keep this standard of work up, he
>>>> may become surplus to requirements.
>>>
>>> I'm not as clever as he
>>>
>> You're not even as clever as alvey? You poor thing, you must be the
>> weakest link.
>
> St. Keith - Patron saint of the Trite and Predictable.

Alvey patron saint of nothing but a world class smartarse.

On 10/01/2022 10:53 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 10/1/22 10:57 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 10/01/2022 8:48 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 10/01/2022 5:51 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>>>> Ask Grumpy about how he'd feel if someone shared all his publicly
>>>>> available information here...
>>>>
>>>> That stupid clown couldn't secure his own Facebook page - and then
>>>> complained when people *found it* by accident. How pissy is that?
>>>
>>> By accident? Pull the other one.
>>
>> Heh :)
>>
>> There is nothing "accidental" about being a stalker. Ask Alvey all
>> about that. Hey Yelva? How big is my mortgage pal? :)
>>
>>
> Nah, your mates are the stalkers. That said, you are shit at it.
>
This comes from somebody who went to some trouble to rifle through semi
public record in order to get something on noddy. Can we say extreme
hypocrisy.

On 12/01/2022 8:40 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 12/01/2022 11:21 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 at 23:35:04 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> Felix, you're a fucking idiot. If I *wanted* that done I'm more than
>>>> capable of doing it myself.
>>> I doubt that very much. or perhaps you could point me to some websites
>>> you've created, or some domain that you own?
>> ~~~
>>   Hey, it was concerning *his* pics that were *fucked about with* by
>> *you*.
>>      Nothing more, nothing less!. Get off yer high horse petey..
>
> Yep. What he did or *why* he was doing it is completely irrelevant. The
> reality is that it wasn't his place to do so, and in an added irony
> attraction he must feel like an even bigger fuckwit now that he's been
> reminded of this in light of his recent comments about leaving people's
> pictures where they are.
>
>>>> Glad to have jogged your memory, but you need to appreciate that not
>>>> everyone wants you to do them "favours".
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I wasn't doing YOU a favor, I was doing the ppl here a favor, you
>>> fucking moron.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>     Theres nothing more scawwy than pete in full flight. (well,
>> krypsis and a few others as well.) <BG>
>
> Again, irrespective of *why* he was doing it, it was not his place to do
> so.
>
> Simple fact of the matter here Felix is *no one* asked for your help, so
> fuck up and mind your business.
>
>

So you have no problem encouraging and supporting one of your mates
stalking, snooping and posting someone elses details into a public
newsgroup but someone reposting a few of your unaltered photos that you
posted yourself to a public space that you linked to ontoto another site
to make them easier to view is treading on your toes is it?

....and you wonder why people think you are fucking disturbed.