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From: alv...@is.invalid (alvey)
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Subject: Q For Post-1970s, Real Mechanics
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 by: alvey - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 01:44 UTC

Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately noticed
that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the symphony
of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update' while it
was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the shifting
volume back up to eleven?

alvey

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 by: Xeno - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 02:11 UTC

On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately noticed
> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the symphony
> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update' while it
> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the shifting
> volume back up to eleven?
>
>
> alvey
>
Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift settings
and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly configurable in the
shift patterns.

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From: grumpyte...@gmail.com (Grumpy Tech)
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 by: Grumpy Tech - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 03:43 UTC

On 15/02/2022 12:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
>> noticed
>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
>> symphony
>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
>> while it
>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the shifting
>> volume back up to eleven?
>>
>>
>> alvey
>>
> Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift settings
> and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly configurable in the
> shift patterns.
>
And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension again.
Alvey is missing the exhaust burble on trailing throttle that was there
before it lunched it's thermostat and went to the dealer. My guess is
the dealer mechanic went oh he's a dear old man and wont want that loud
irritating noise as he changes down gears, let's quieten it down for him.
Or the mechanic lives nearby and is pissed of with the wally using
excessive trailing throttle in suburban streets and made sure it doesn't
happen any more.

You pick which scenario fits.

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 by: Noddy - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 03:50 UTC

On 15/02/2022 2:43 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> On 15/02/2022 12:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
>>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
>>> noticed
>>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
>>> symphony
>>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
>>> while it
>>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the
>>> shifting
>>> volume back up to eleven?
>>>
>>>
>>> alvey
>>>
>> Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift
>> settings and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly
>> configurable in the shift patterns.
>>
> And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension again.

And total cluelessness. I've never seen anyone make such a big noise
about how "extremely trade relevant" he is be so *remarkably* fucking
vague when it comes to helping people with car problems :)

> Alvey is missing the exhaust burble on trailing throttle that was there
> before it lunched it's thermostat and went to the dealer. My guess is
> the dealer mechanic went oh he's a dear old man and wont want that loud
> irritating noise as he changes down gears, let's quieten it down for him.
> Or the mechanic lives nearby and is pissed of with the wally using
> excessive trailing throttle in suburban streets and made sure it doesn't
> happen any more.
>
> You pick which scenario fits.

Either will do, but in any case it's only Alvey. Who gives a shit? :)

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 by: alvey - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 04:39 UTC

On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 14:50:00 +1100, Noddy wrote:

> On 15/02/2022 2:43 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 15/02/2022 12:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
>>>> noticed
>>>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>>>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
>>>> symphony
>>>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
>>>> while it
>>>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the
>>>> shifting
>>>> volume back up to eleven?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> alvey
>>>>
>>> Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift
>>> settings and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly
>>> configurable in the shift patterns.
>>>
>> And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension again.
>
> And total cluelessness. I've never seen anyone make such a big noise
> about how "extremely trade relevant" he is be so *remarkably* fucking
> vague when it comes to helping people with car problems :)
>
>> Alvey is missing the exhaust burble on trailing throttle that was there
>> before it lunched it's thermostat and went to the dealer. My guess is
>> the dealer mechanic went oh he's a dear old man and wont want that loud
>> irritating noise as he changes down gears, let's quieten it down for him.
>> Or the mechanic lives nearby and is pissed of with the wally using
>> excessive trailing throttle in suburban streets and made sure it doesn't
>> happen any more.
>>
>> You pick which scenario fits.

Given a chance to display their, dare I say it, "relevant" knowledge and
what do you get? The totally expected nothing.
>
> Either will do, but in any case it's only Alvey. Who gives a shit? :)

Huge lol!
Poor old Fraudster. Crikey Buffo! It's so obvious that you read every post
that you may as well use, "I READ EVERY POST" as a sig.

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 by: Xeno - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 05:04 UTC

On 15/2/2022 2:43 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> On 15/02/2022 12:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
>>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
>>> noticed
>>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
>>> symphony
>>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
>>> while it
>>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the
>>> shifting
>>> volume back up to eleven?
>>>
>>>
>>> alvey
>>>
>> Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift
>> settings and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly
>> configurable in the shift patterns.
>>
> And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension again.
> Alvey is missing the exhaust burble on trailing throttle that was there
> before it lunched it's thermostat and went to the dealer. My guess is
> the dealer mechanic went oh he's a dear old man and wont want that loud
> irritating noise as he changes down gears, let's quieten it down for him.
> Or the mechanic lives nearby and is pissed of with the wally using
> excessive trailing throttle in suburban streets and made sure it doesn't
> happen any more.
>
> You pick which scenario fits.

Well, you have comprehensively shown that you haven't a clue. But we
already knew that.

Alvey's A35 has probably has had a soft or hard reset of the ECU/ECM and
is now at *default* driving style settings. That will affect both trans
and engine settings. All will be well however once the ECU/ECM
*relearns* Alvey's driving style and gets back to how he like it. It
takes time to do this, 100 kilometres of mixed driving for instance.

--
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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: alvey - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 05:19 UTC

On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:04:00 +1100, Xeno wrote:

> On 15/2/2022 2:43 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 15/02/2022 12:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
>>>> noticed
>>>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>>>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
>>>> symphony
>>>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
>>>> while it
>>>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the
>>>> shifting
>>>> volume back up to eleven?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> alvey
>>>>
>>> Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift
>>> settings and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly
>>> configurable in the shift patterns.
>>>
>> And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension again.
>> Alvey is missing the exhaust burble on trailing throttle that was there
>> before it lunched it's thermostat and went to the dealer. My guess is
>> the dealer mechanic went oh he's a dear old man and wont want that loud
>> irritating noise as he changes down gears, let's quieten it down for him.
>> Or the mechanic lives nearby and is pissed of with the wally using
>> excessive trailing throttle in suburban streets and made sure it doesn't
>> happen any more.
>>
>> You pick which scenario fits.
>
> Well, you have comprehensively shown that you haven't a clue. But we
> already knew that.
>
> Alvey's A35 has probably has had a soft or hard reset of the ECU/ECM and
> is now at *default* driving style settings. That will affect both trans
> and engine settings. All will be well however once the ECU/ECM
> *relearns* Alvey's driving style and gets back to how he like it. It
> takes time to do this, 100 kilometres of mixed driving for instance.

Best response from the UK A35 forum;

"If your car suddenly doesn't pop and bangs or you notice the burble is
gone, it is definitely the ECU detected something amiss and decided to play
safe and cut that feature.

It has happened to me, and a scan did reveal codes. Sometimes, the code
would take a couple engine cycles to appear, and depending on the tool that
you use to scan, some might not be able to pick it up and require a more
sophisticated scanner.

Either way, the pop and bangs is a good indicator that the ECU detected
something and requires attention.

And some codes does go away after a couple of engine cycles as the ECU
deemed that it no longer is valid after monitoring it hence your pops and
bangs came back."

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 by: Xeno - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 05:21 UTC

On 15/2/2022 2:50 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 15/02/2022 2:43 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 15/02/2022 12:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
>>>> noticed
>>>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>>>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
>>>> symphony
>>>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
>>>> while it
>>>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the
>>>> shifting
>>>> volume back up to eleven?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> alvey
>>>>
>>> Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift
>>> settings and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly
>>> configurable in the shift patterns.
>>>
>> And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension again.
>
> And total cluelessness. I've never seen anyone make such a big noise
> about how "extremely trade relevant" he is be so *remarkably* fucking
> vague when it comes to helping people with car problems :)

You were sooooo vague you provided zero assistance. But that's all that
could be expected from you. FWIW, Alvey's car will fix itself in time
when it relearns his driving patterns. After all, it has more
intelligence built in than you were born with.
>
>> Alvey is missing the exhaust burble on trailing throttle that was
>> there before it lunched it's thermostat and went to the dealer. My
>> guess is the dealer mechanic went oh he's a dear old man and wont want
>> that loud irritating noise as he changes down gears, let's quieten it
>> down for him.
>> Or the mechanic lives nearby and is pissed of with the wally using
>> excessive trailing throttle in suburban streets and made sure it
>> doesn't happen any more.
>>
>> You pick which scenario fits.
>
> Either will do, but in any case it's only Alvey. Who gives a shit? :)
>
>

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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Xeno - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 05:25 UTC

On 15/2/2022 4:19 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:04:00 +1100, Xeno wrote:
>
>> On 15/2/2022 2:43 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>> On 15/02/2022 12:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
>>>>> noticed
>>>>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>>>>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
>>>>> symphony
>>>>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
>>>>> while it
>>>>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the
>>>>> shifting
>>>>> volume back up to eleven?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> alvey
>>>>>
>>>> Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift
>>>> settings and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly
>>>> configurable in the shift patterns.
>>>>
>>> And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension again.
>>> Alvey is missing the exhaust burble on trailing throttle that was there
>>> before it lunched it's thermostat and went to the dealer. My guess is
>>> the dealer mechanic went oh he's a dear old man and wont want that loud
>>> irritating noise as he changes down gears, let's quieten it down for him.
>>> Or the mechanic lives nearby and is pissed of with the wally using
>>> excessive trailing throttle in suburban streets and made sure it doesn't
>>> happen any more.
>>>
>>> You pick which scenario fits.
>>
>> Well, you have comprehensively shown that you haven't a clue. But we
>> already knew that.
>>
>> Alvey's A35 has probably has had a soft or hard reset of the ECU/ECM and
>> is now at *default* driving style settings. That will affect both trans
>> and engine settings. All will be well however once the ECU/ECM
>> *relearns* Alvey's driving style and gets back to how he like it. It
>> takes time to do this, 100 kilometres of mixed driving for instance.
>
> Best response from the UK A35 forum;
>
> "If your car suddenly doesn't pop and bangs or you notice the burble is
> gone, it is definitely the ECU detected something amiss and decided to play
> safe and cut that feature.
>
> It has happened to me, and a scan did reveal codes. Sometimes, the code
> would take a couple engine cycles to appear, and depending on the tool that
> you use to scan, some might not be able to pick it up and require a more
> sophisticated scanner.
>
> Either way, the pop and bangs is a good indicator that the ECU detected
> something and requires attention.
>
> And some codes does go away after a couple of engine cycles as the ECU
> deemed that it no longer is valid after monitoring it hence your pops and
> bangs came back."
>
Do you have a code reader? Always handy to have one in the glove
compartment. After all, who uses gloves these days anyway.

Anyway, give it time and it will relearn and settle down.

--
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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: alvey - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 05:28 UTC

On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:02:03 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 13:43:11 +1000, Grumpy Tech
> <grumpytech07@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 15/02/2022 12:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
>>>> noticed
>>>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>>>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
>>>> symphony
>>>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
>>>> while it
>>>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the shifting
>>>> volume back up to eleven?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> alvey
>>>>
>>> Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift settings
>>> and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly configurable in the
>>> shift patterns.
>>>
>>And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension again.
>>Alvey is missing the exhaust burble on trailing throttle that was there
>>before it lunched it's thermostat and went to the dealer. My guess is
>>the dealer mechanic went oh he's a dear old man and wont want that loud
>>irritating noise as he changes down gears, let's quieten it down for him.
>>Or the mechanic lives nearby and is pissed of with the wally using
>>excessive trailing throttle in suburban streets and made sure it doesn't
>>happen any more.
>>
>>You pick which scenario fits.
>
> I feel that pain. I live in town & have to put up with exhaust racket
> almost every night between 6 & 8. Motor bikes are the worst and their
> noise rattles the window panes! My bed is about 20meters from a
> traffic light and the Austropithecines rev their engines at the red
> light and roar off when it turns green. I'm getting a sniper rifle,
> and that exhaust racket will disguise the BANG!

Well that's a stupid thing to say. Just how many Harley halfwits do you
think you'd take out before the jacks work out where the shots are coming
from? 'Not enough to make a difference' is the correct answer. Besides,
when you, aka 'The Harley Killer', go to the clink you're as good as dead.

hth

alvey

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 by: Daryl - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 05:39 UTC

On 15/2/22 2:43 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> On 15/02/2022 12:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
>>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
>>> noticed
>>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
>>> symphony
>>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
>>> while it
>>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the
>>> shifting
>>> volume back up to eleven?
>>>
>>>
>>> alvey
>>>
>> Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift
>> settings and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly
>> configurable in the shift patterns.
>>
> And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension again.
> Alvey is missing the exhaust burble on trailing throttle that was there
> before it lunched it's thermostat and went to the dealer. My guess is
> the dealer mechanic went oh he's a dear old man and wont want that loud
> irritating noise as he changes down gears, let's quieten it down for him.
> Or the mechanic lives nearby and is pissed of with the wally using
> excessive trailing throttle in suburban streets and made sure it doesn't
> happen any more.
>
> You pick which scenario fits.

Another possibility is they fixed the exhaust damage that was caused by
going too fast over speed bumps:-)

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 by: alvey - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 05:40 UTC

On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:25:07 +1100, Xeno wrote:

> On 15/2/2022 4:19 pm, alvey wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:04:00 +1100, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>> On 15/2/2022 2:43 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>> On 15/02/2022 12:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
>>>>>> noticed
>>>>>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>>>>>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
>>>>>> symphony
>>>>>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
>>>>>> while it
>>>>>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the
>>>>>> shifting
>>>>>> volume back up to eleven?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>
>>>>> Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift
>>>>> settings and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly
>>>>> configurable in the shift patterns.
>>>>>
>>>> And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension again.
>>>> Alvey is missing the exhaust burble on trailing throttle that was there
>>>> before it lunched it's thermostat and went to the dealer. My guess is
>>>> the dealer mechanic went oh he's a dear old man and wont want that loud
>>>> irritating noise as he changes down gears, let's quieten it down for him.
>>>> Or the mechanic lives nearby and is pissed of with the wally using
>>>> excessive trailing throttle in suburban streets and made sure it doesn't
>>>> happen any more.
>>>>
>>>> You pick which scenario fits.
>>>
>>> Well, you have comprehensively shown that you haven't a clue. But we
>>> already knew that.
>>>
>>> Alvey's A35 has probably has had a soft or hard reset of the ECU/ECM and
>>> is now at *default* driving style settings. That will affect both trans
>>> and engine settings. All will be well however once the ECU/ECM
>>> *relearns* Alvey's driving style and gets back to how he like it. It
>>> takes time to do this, 100 kilometres of mixed driving for instance.
>>
>> Best response from the UK A35 forum;
>>
>> "If your car suddenly doesn't pop and bangs or you notice the burble is
>> gone, it is definitely the ECU detected something amiss and decided to play
>> safe and cut that feature.
>>
>> It has happened to me, and a scan did reveal codes. Sometimes, the code
>> would take a couple engine cycles to appear, and depending on the tool that
>> you use to scan, some might not be able to pick it up and require a more
>> sophisticated scanner.
>>
>> Either way, the pop and bangs is a good indicator that the ECU detected
>> something and requires attention.
>>
>> And some codes does go away after a couple of engine cycles as the ECU
>> deemed that it no longer is valid after monitoring it hence your pops and
>> bangs came back."
>>
> Do you have a code reader? Always handy to have one in the glove
> compartment. After all, who uses gloves these days anyway.
>
> Anyway, give it time and it will relearn and settle down.

Here's hoping.

This bit was interesting to me, "...and depending on the tool that
you use to scan, some might not be able to pick it up and require a more
sophisticated scanner."
That fits my opinion that if you've got a half-decent car then you're
better off taking it to the dealer as they'll probably have better
equipment than Sammy Shonk.

alvey

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 by: Xeno - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 05:40 UTC

On 15/2/2022 4:25 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 15/2/2022 4:19 pm, alvey wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:04:00 +1100, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>> On 15/2/2022 2:43 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>> On 15/02/2022 12:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
>>>>>> noticed
>>>>>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>>>>>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
>>>>>> symphony
>>>>>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
>>>>>> while it
>>>>>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the
>>>>>> shifting
>>>>>> volume back up to eleven?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>
>>>>> Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift
>>>>> settings and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly
>>>>> configurable in the shift patterns.
>>>>>
>>>> And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension again.
>>>> Alvey is missing the exhaust burble on trailing throttle that was there
>>>> before it lunched it's thermostat and went to the dealer. My guess is
>>>> the dealer mechanic went oh he's a dear old man and wont want that loud
>>>> irritating noise as he changes down gears, let's quieten it down for
>>>> him.
>>>> Or the mechanic lives nearby and is pissed of with the wally using
>>>> excessive trailing throttle in suburban streets and made sure it
>>>> doesn't
>>>> happen any more.
>>>>
>>>> You pick which scenario fits.
>>>
>>> Well, you have comprehensively shown that you haven't a clue. But we
>>> already knew that.
>>>
>>> Alvey's A35 has probably has had a soft or hard reset of the ECU/ECM and
>>> is now at *default* driving style settings. That will affect both trans
>>> and engine settings. All will be well however once the ECU/ECM
>>> *relearns* Alvey's driving style and gets back to how he like it. It
>>> takes time to do this, 100 kilometres of mixed driving for instance.
>>
>> Best response from the UK A35 forum;
>>
>> "If your car suddenly doesn't pop and bangs or you notice the burble is
>> gone, it is definitely the ECU detected something amiss and decided to
>> play
>> safe and cut that feature.
>>
>> It has happened to me, and a scan did reveal codes. Sometimes, the code
>> would take a couple engine cycles to appear, and depending on the tool
>> that
>> you use to scan, some might not be able to pick it up and require a more
>> sophisticated scanner.
>>
>> Either way, the pop and bangs is a good indicator that the ECU detected
>> something and requires attention.
>>
>> And some codes does go away after a couple of engine cycles as the ECU
>> deemed that it no longer is valid after monitoring it hence your pops and
>> bangs came back."
>>
> Do you have a code reader? Always handy to have one in the glove
> compartment. After all, who uses gloves these days anyway.
>
> Anyway, give it time and it will relearn and settle down.
>
Forgot to mention, if the beast had been overly warm (thermostat!) then
all the valve and ignition settings would have been backed right off to
*safe settings* depending on the codes they triggered. Overheating can
cause a bit of preignition/detonation and that will definitely trip
relevant codes - and lose your snap, crackle and pop. The dealer should
have cleared any of those codes however. You could do a *soft reset* on
it yourself, not hard to do on Benz vehicles, then go for a drive so the
car can relearn.

--
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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Xeno - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 05:43 UTC

On 15/2/2022 4:39 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 15/2/22 2:43 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 15/02/2022 12:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
>>>> noticed
>>>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>>>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
>>>> symphony
>>>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
>>>> while it
>>>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the
>>>> shifting
>>>> volume back up to eleven?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> alvey
>>>>
>>> Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift
>>> settings and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly
>>> configurable in the shift patterns.
>>>
>> And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension
>> again. Alvey is missing the exhaust burble on trailing throttle that
>> was there before it lunched it's thermostat and went to the dealer. My
>> guess is the dealer mechanic went oh he's a dear old man and wont want
>> that loud irritating noise as he changes down gears, let's quieten it
>> down for him.
>> Or the mechanic lives nearby and is pissed of with the wally using
>> excessive trailing throttle in suburban streets and made sure it
>> doesn't happen any more.
>>
>> You pick which scenario fits.
>
>
> Another possibility is they fixed the exhaust damage that was caused by
> going too fast over speed bumps:-)
>
Yet another clueless one. Must be breeding them somewhere.

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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Xeno - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 05:50 UTC

On 15/2/2022 4:40 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:25:07 +1100, Xeno wrote:
>
>> On 15/2/2022 4:19 pm, alvey wrote:
>>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:04:00 +1100, Xeno wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 15/2/2022 2:43 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>> On 15/02/2022 12:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
>>>>>>> noticed
>>>>>>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>>>>>>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
>>>>>>> symphony
>>>>>>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
>>>>>>> while it
>>>>>>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the
>>>>>>> shifting
>>>>>>> volume back up to eleven?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift
>>>>>> settings and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly
>>>>>> configurable in the shift patterns.
>>>>>>
>>>>> And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension again.
>>>>> Alvey is missing the exhaust burble on trailing throttle that was there
>>>>> before it lunched it's thermostat and went to the dealer. My guess is
>>>>> the dealer mechanic went oh he's a dear old man and wont want that loud
>>>>> irritating noise as he changes down gears, let's quieten it down for him.
>>>>> Or the mechanic lives nearby and is pissed of with the wally using
>>>>> excessive trailing throttle in suburban streets and made sure it doesn't
>>>>> happen any more.
>>>>>
>>>>> You pick which scenario fits.
>>>>
>>>> Well, you have comprehensively shown that you haven't a clue. But we
>>>> already knew that.
>>>>
>>>> Alvey's A35 has probably has had a soft or hard reset of the ECU/ECM and
>>>> is now at *default* driving style settings. That will affect both trans
>>>> and engine settings. All will be well however once the ECU/ECM
>>>> *relearns* Alvey's driving style and gets back to how he like it. It
>>>> takes time to do this, 100 kilometres of mixed driving for instance.
>>>
>>> Best response from the UK A35 forum;
>>>
>>> "If your car suddenly doesn't pop and bangs or you notice the burble is
>>> gone, it is definitely the ECU detected something amiss and decided to play
>>> safe and cut that feature.
>>>
>>> It has happened to me, and a scan did reveal codes. Sometimes, the code
>>> would take a couple engine cycles to appear, and depending on the tool that
>>> you use to scan, some might not be able to pick it up and require a more
>>> sophisticated scanner.
>>>
>>> Either way, the pop and bangs is a good indicator that the ECU detected
>>> something and requires attention.
>>>
>>> And some codes does go away after a couple of engine cycles as the ECU
>>> deemed that it no longer is valid after monitoring it hence your pops and
>>> bangs came back."
>>>
>> Do you have a code reader? Always handy to have one in the glove
>> compartment. After all, who uses gloves these days anyway.
>>
>> Anyway, give it time and it will relearn and settle down.
>
> Here's hoping.
>
> This bit was interesting to me, "...and depending on the tool that
> you use to scan, some might not be able to pick it up and require a more
> sophisticated scanner."
> That fits my opinion that if you've got a half-decent car then you're
> better off taking it to the dealer as they'll probably have better
> equipment than Sammy Shonk.
>
For sure. The decent scanners *start* at $2-3k and go up from there. And
that is only the upfront price. Most will incur a subscription cost per
annum on top. One of them plus a digital oscilloscope allows you to
cover a lot of ground in the diagnosis stakes. Of course Sammy the Shonk
wouldn't be able to *interpret* the data coming from anything decent anyway.
>
> alvey
>

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 by: keithr0 - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 06:17 UTC

On 15/02/2022 11:44 am, alvey wrote:
> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately noticed
> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the symphony
> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update' while it
> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the shifting
> volume back up to eleven?

Bring it around to the museum tomorrow morning, 30 seconds with the
angle grinder will get you all the pops and bangs that you can handle.

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 by: alvey - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 06:36 UTC

On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:17:06 +1000, keithr0 wrote:

> On 15/02/2022 11:44 am, alvey wrote:
>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately noticed
>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the symphony
>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update' while it
>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the shifting
>> volume back up to eleven?
>
> Bring it around to the museum tomorrow morning, 30 seconds with the
> angle grinder will get you all the pops and bangs that you can handle.

Speaking of posing wankers... Was at The Events Centre last week (It's in
central Caloundra keith) and there was a blue MX5 in the car park sporting
the plate 'MY-MX5'. I mean, seriously?

alvey

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 by: jonz@ nothere.com - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 06:52 UTC

On Tuesday, 15 February 2022 at 14:43:18 UTC+11, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> On 15/02/2022 12:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
> > On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
> >> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
> >> noticed
> >> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
> >> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
> >> symphony
> >> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
> >> while it
> >> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the shifting
> >> volume back up to eleven?
> >>
> >>
> >> alvey
> >>
> > Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift settings
> > and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly configurable in the
> > shift patterns.
> >
> And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension again.
> Alvey is missing the exhaust burble on trailing throttle that was there
> before it lunched it's thermostat and went to the dealer. My guess is
> the dealer mechanic went oh he's a dear old man and wont want that loud
> irritating noise as he changes down gears, let's quieten it down for him.
> Or the mechanic lives nearby and is pissed of with the wally using
> excessive trailing throttle in suburban streets and made sure it doesn't
> happen any more.
>
> You pick which scenario fits.

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*This* is an example of the flogs mindset:
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to
On Tuesday, 9 March 2021 at 16:04:44 UTC+11, Noddy wrote:
> On 9/03/2021 1:01 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> > On Monday, 8 March 2021 at 18:08:46 UTC+11, alvey wrote:
>
> >>>
> >>>>> Bah! 10kph? Luxury. Try driving something low and made lower by its low
> >>>>> profile rubber. There's a perfectly good suburban street I go down & back
> >>>>> about three times a week that the bastard council have put three humps
> >>>>> on,
> >>>>> each about the size of Uluru. I make sure the A35 is in Sport+ mode and
> >>>>> change down as noisily as I can at each one.

> >>>>
> >>>> **Fucking councils.
> >>>
> >>> Indeed.
> >>>
> >>> I'll bet Alvey's neighbours love him. What a complete fucking *twat*.
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > With a mind set such as that, *complete twat* falls faaaaar short as a description. <FBG>
> It's an absolute fucking flog, who has shown everyone exactly the kind
> of petulant little child it is.
>
> I'm surprised his neighbours haven't taken to throwing nails on the road
> around his car just to teach the fucking munt a lesson.
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Or throwing out stopsticks. They can be retrieved before the innocents cop it..

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 by: Noddy - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 06:52 UTC

On 15/02/2022 4:02 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 13:43:11 +1000, Grumpy Tech

>> And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension again.
>> Alvey is missing the exhaust burble on trailing throttle that was there
>> before it lunched it's thermostat and went to the dealer. My guess is
>> the dealer mechanic went oh he's a dear old man and wont want that loud
>> irritating noise as he changes down gears, let's quieten it down for him.
>> Or the mechanic lives nearby and is pissed of with the wally using
>> excessive trailing throttle in suburban streets and made sure it doesn't
>> happen any more.
>>
>> You pick which scenario fits.
>
> I feel that pain. I live in town & have to put up with exhaust racket
> almost every night between 6 & 8. Motor bikes are the worst and their
> noise rattles the window panes! My bed is about 20meters from a
> traffic light and the Austropithecines rev their engines at the red
> light and roar off when it turns green. I'm getting a sniper rifle,
> and that exhaust racket will disguise the BANG!

You're a fucking moron, in all your guises....

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 by: Clocky - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 06:53 UTC

On 15/02/2022 9:44 am, alvey wrote:
> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately noticed
> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the symphony
> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update' while it
> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the shifting
> volume back up to eleven?
>
>
> alvey
>

Yes and drive it how you always have. If it doesn't return the desired
noise after it relearns your driving "style" ask your dealer.

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 by: Noddy - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 06:53 UTC

On 15/02/2022 5:17 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 15/02/2022 11:44 am, alvey wrote:
>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
>> noticed
>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
>> symphony
>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
>> while it
>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the shifting
>> volume back up to eleven?
>
> Bring it around to the museum tomorrow morning, 30 seconds with the
> angle grinder will get you all the pops and bangs that you can handle.

Lol :)

He must have been *so* deprived as a kid to be this much of a
pretentious wanker now :)

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 by: Clocky - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 06:54 UTC

On 15/02/2022 11:43 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> On 15/02/2022 12:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
>>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
>>> noticed
>>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
>>> symphony
>>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
>>> while it
>>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the
>>> shifting
>>> volume back up to eleven?
>>>
>>>
>>> alvey
>>>
>> Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift
>> settings and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly
>> configurable in the shift patterns.
>>
> And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension again.

Actually, it reveals your lack of knowledge *and* comprehension so why
are you attacking Xeno again?

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 by: Noddy - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 06:55 UTC

On 15/02/2022 4:39 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 15/2/22 2:43 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 15/02/2022 12:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
>>>> noticed
>>>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>>>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
>>>> symphony
>>>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
>>>> while it
>>>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the
>>>> shifting
>>>> volume back up to eleven?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> alvey
>>>>
>>> Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift
>>> settings and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly
>>> configurable in the shift patterns.
>>>
>> And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension
>> again. Alvey is missing the exhaust burble on trailing throttle that
>> was there before it lunched it's thermostat and went to the dealer. My
>> guess is the dealer mechanic went oh he's a dear old man and wont want
>> that loud irritating noise as he changes down gears, let's quieten it
>> down for him.
>> Or the mechanic lives nearby and is pissed of with the wally using
>> excessive trailing throttle in suburban streets and made sure it
>> doesn't happen any more.
>>
>> You pick which scenario fits.
>
>
> Another possibility is they fixed the exhaust damage that was caused by
> going too fast over speed bumps:-)

Or they picked him as a *massive* flog and decided to shut the cunt of a
thing up just to see him cry about it like he is now.

Couldn't happen to a nicer cunt :)

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 by: Clocky - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 06:58 UTC

On 15/02/2022 1:19 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:04:00 +1100, Xeno wrote:
>
>> On 15/2/2022 2:43 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>> On 15/02/2022 12:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
>>>>> noticed
>>>>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>>>>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
>>>>> symphony
>>>>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
>>>>> while it
>>>>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the
>>>>> shifting
>>>>> volume back up to eleven?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> alvey
>>>>>
>>>> Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift
>>>> settings and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly
>>>> configurable in the shift patterns.
>>>>
>>> And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension again.
>>> Alvey is missing the exhaust burble on trailing throttle that was there
>>> before it lunched it's thermostat and went to the dealer. My guess is
>>> the dealer mechanic went oh he's a dear old man and wont want that loud
>>> irritating noise as he changes down gears, let's quieten it down for him.
>>> Or the mechanic lives nearby and is pissed of with the wally using
>>> excessive trailing throttle in suburban streets and made sure it doesn't
>>> happen any more.
>>>
>>> You pick which scenario fits.
>>
>> Well, you have comprehensively shown that you haven't a clue. But we
>> already knew that.
>>
>> Alvey's A35 has probably has had a soft or hard reset of the ECU/ECM and
>> is now at *default* driving style settings. That will affect both trans
>> and engine settings. All will be well however once the ECU/ECM
>> *relearns* Alvey's driving style and gets back to how he like it. It
>> takes time to do this, 100 kilometres of mixed driving for instance.
>
> Best response from the UK A35 forum;
>
> "If your car suddenly doesn't pop and bangs or you notice the burble is
> gone, it is definitely the ECU detected something amiss and decided to play
> safe and cut that feature.
>
> It has happened to me, and a scan did reveal codes. Sometimes, the code
> would take a couple engine cycles to appear, and depending on the tool that
> you use to scan, some might not be able to pick it up and require a more
> sophisticated scanner.
>
> Either way, the pop and bangs is a good indicator that the ECU detected
> something and requires attention.
>
> And some codes does go away after a couple of engine cycles as the ECU
> deemed that it no longer is valid after monitoring it hence your pops and
> bangs came back."
>

The dealer would have cleared any codes. It's just the relearn, that's
why the crackle and pop returns after a time.

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 by: keithr0 - Tue, 15 Feb 2022 07:04 UTC

On 15/02/2022 4:36 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:17:06 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>
>> On 15/02/2022 11:44 am, alvey wrote:
>>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately noticed
>>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the symphony
>>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update' while it
>>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the shifting
>>> volume back up to eleven?
>>
>> Bring it around to the museum tomorrow morning, 30 seconds with the
>> angle grinder will get you all the pops and bangs that you can handle.
>
> Speaking of posing wankers... Was at The Events Centre last week (It's in
> central Caloundra keith) and there was a blue MX5 in the car park sporting
> the plate 'MY-MX5'. I mean, seriously?

Speaking of posing wankers... He'll probably trade it for an A series

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