On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:11:25 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 15:28:35 +1000, alvey <alvey@is.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:02:03 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 13:43:11 +1000, Grumpy Tech
>>> <grumpytech07@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 15/02/2022 12:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
>>>>>> noticed
>>>>>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>>>>>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
>>>>>> symphony
>>>>>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
>>>>>> while it
>>>>>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the shifting
>>>>>> volume back up to eleven?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>
>>>>> Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift settings
>>>>> and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly configurable in the
>>>>> shift patterns.
>>>>>
>>>>And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension again.
>>>>Alvey is missing the exhaust burble on trailing throttle that was there
>>>>before it lunched it's thermostat and went to the dealer. My guess is
>>>>the dealer mechanic went oh he's a dear old man and wont want that loud
>>>>irritating noise as he changes down gears, let's quieten it down for him.
>>>>Or the mechanic lives nearby and is pissed of with the wally using
>>>>excessive trailing throttle in suburban streets and made sure it doesn't
>>>>happen any more.
>>>>
>>>>You pick which scenario fits.
>>>
>>> I feel that pain. I live in town & have to put up with exhaust racket
>>> almost every night between 6 & 8. Motor bikes are the worst and their
>>> noise rattles the window panes! My bed is about 20meters from a
>>> traffic light and the Austropithecines rev their engines at the red
>>> light and roar off when it turns green. I'm getting a sniper rifle,
>>> and that exhaust racket will disguise the BANG!
>>
>>Well that's a stupid thing to say. Just how many Harley halfwits do you
>>think you'd take out before the jacks work out where the shots are coming
>>from? 'Not enough to make a difference' is the correct answer. Besides,
>>when you, aka 'The Harley Killer', go to the clink you're as good as dead.
>>
>>hth
>>
>>
>>alvey
>
> No. I'd be protected by the genteel scooter riders and half-deaf
> pedestrians who don't like those knuckle-dragging ape-hanging sort
> either.
> Also let me complain about the screeching rosellas, budgies, parrots,
> crows, mynahs etc,

A Pedant writes; rosellas *are* parrots.

> who have now moved into town because of all the
> trees the council has planted,; you know the ones that drop their
> leaves into spouting and downpipes!

Have you thought of doing a research posting in the Antarctic?

alvey

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On 16/02/2022 11:34 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 16/2/22 9:11 am, Peter Jason wrote:

>> Also let me complain about the screeching rosellas, budgies, parrots,
>> crows, mynahs etc, who have now moved into town because of all the
>> trees the council has planted,; you know the ones that drop their
>> leaves into spouting and downpipes!
>>
>
> Hint, to lessen the likelihood of being thought an idiot its customary
> if you are joking or being sarcastic to put a smiley at the end of your
> post.

I think he's a professional fuckwit. His application for FLC membership
is imminent.

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On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 11:43:27 +1100, Xeno wrote:

> On 15/2/2022 8:11 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 15/02/2022 6:07 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 15/02/2022 4:53 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 15/02/2022 9:44 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
>>>>> noticed
>>>>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>>>>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
>>>>> symphony
>>>>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
>>>>> while it
>>>>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the
>>>>> shifting
>>>>> volume back up to eleven?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> alvey
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes and drive it how you always have. If it doesn't return the
>>>> desired noise after it relearns your driving "style" ask your dealer.
>>>
>>> Style - loud exhaust, pops and bangs = pretentious hoon.
>>
>> You'd have to ask yourself if a car was towed into a dealership with a
>> suspected stuck thermostat why there would be any need to "relearn"
>> anything :)
>>
> There's a comment from a *clueless amateur*. You really are a hapless
> individual Darren, best you stay away from anything more modern than the
> 70s.

Moving to Bumhole (Vic) is an excellent start...

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On 16/02/2022 1:22 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:14:56 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>
>> On 16/02/2022 9:12 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 17:52:56 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> You're a fucking moron, in all your guises....
>>
>>> *sniff*
>>> Of course I defer to your knowledge & experience in these matters.
>>
>> Do you get a kick out of shit like this, or is someone holding a gun to
>> your head and forcing you to be this stupid?
>
> I'm just baiting ewe! :-)))))

Really? Funny, as all I could see you doing was making yourself look
retarded. But hey, if it works for you then knock yourself the fuck out....

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On 15/02/2022 4:40 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:25:07 +1100, Xeno wrote:
>
>> On 15/2/2022 4:19 pm, alvey wrote:
>>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:04:00 +1100, Xeno wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 15/2/2022 2:43 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>> On 15/02/2022 12:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
>>>>>>> noticed
>>>>>>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>>>>>>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
>>>>>>> symphony
>>>>>>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
>>>>>>> while it
>>>>>>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the
>>>>>>> shifting
>>>>>>> volume back up to eleven?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift
>>>>>> settings and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly
>>>>>> configurable in the shift patterns.
>>>>>>
>>>>> And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension again.
>>>>> Alvey is missing the exhaust burble on trailing throttle that was there
>>>>> before it lunched it's thermostat and went to the dealer. My guess is
>>>>> the dealer mechanic went oh he's a dear old man and wont want that loud
>>>>> irritating noise as he changes down gears, let's quieten it down for him.
>>>>> Or the mechanic lives nearby and is pissed of with the wally using
>>>>> excessive trailing throttle in suburban streets and made sure it doesn't
>>>>> happen any more.
>>>>>
>>>>> You pick which scenario fits.
>>>> Well, you have comprehensively shown that you haven't a clue. But we
>>>> already knew that.
>>>>
>>>> Alvey's A35 has probably has had a soft or hard reset of the ECU/ECM and
>>>> is now at *default* driving style settings. That will affect both trans
>>>> and engine settings. All will be well however once the ECU/ECM
>>>> *relearns* Alvey's driving style and gets back to how he like it. It
>>>> takes time to do this, 100 kilometres of mixed driving for instance.
>>> Best response from the UK A35 forum;
>>>
>>> "If your car suddenly doesn't pop and bangs or you notice the burble is
>>> gone, it is definitely the ECU detected something amiss and decided to play
>>> safe and cut that feature.
>>>
>>> It has happened to me, and a scan did reveal codes. Sometimes, the code
>>> would take a couple engine cycles to appear, and depending on the tool that
>>> you use to scan, some might not be able to pick it up and require a more
>>> sophisticated scanner.
>>>
>>> Either way, the pop and bangs is a good indicator that the ECU detected
>>> something and requires attention.
>>>
>>> And some codes does go away after a couple of engine cycles as the ECU
>>> deemed that it no longer is valid after monitoring it hence your pops and
>>> bangs came back."
>>>
>> Do you have a code reader? Always handy to have one in the glove
>> compartment. After all, who uses gloves these days anyway.
>>
>> Anyway, give it time and it will relearn and settle down.
> Here's hoping.
>
> This bit was interesting to me, "...and depending on the tool that
> you use to scan, some might not be able to pick it up and require a more
> sophisticated scanner."
> That fits my opinion that if you've got a half-decent car then you're
> better off taking it to the dealer as they'll probably have better
> equipment than Sammy Shonk.

or noddy nonuts

>
>
> alvey
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On 16/02/2022 11:43 am, Xeno wrote:
> On 15/2/2022 8:11 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 15/02/2022 6:07 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 15/02/2022 4:53 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 15/02/2022 9:44 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
>>>>> noticed
>>>>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>>>>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
>>>>> symphony
>>>>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
>>>>> while it
>>>>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the
>>>>> shifting
>>>>> volume back up to eleven?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> alvey
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes and drive it how you always have. If it doesn't return the
>>>> desired noise after it relearns your driving "style" ask your dealer.
>>>
>>> Style - loud exhaust, pops and bangs = pretentious hoon.
>>
>> You'd have to ask yourself if a car was towed into a dealership with
>> a suspected stuck thermostat why there would be any need to "relearn"
>> anything :)
>>
> There's a comment from a *clueless amateur*. You really are a hapless
> individual Darren, best you stay away from anything more modern than
> the 70s.
>
>

he should stick to welding rusty mufflers @ $100 a pop

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On 16/02/2022 11:50 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 16/02/2022 11:34 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 16/2/22 9:11 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>
>>> Also let me complain about the screeching rosellas, budgies, parrots,
>>> crows, mynahs etc, who have now moved into town because of all the
>>> trees the council has planted,; you know the ones that drop their
>>> leaves into spouting and downpipes!
>>>
>>
>> Hint, to lessen the likelihood of being thought an idiot its
>> customary if you are joking or being sarcastic to put a smiley at the
>> end of your post.
>
> I think he's a professional fuckwit. His application for FLC
> membership is imminent.
>
>
>

if he's a fukwit we would refer him to the FLCJC for membership

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On 16/02/2022 10:50 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 16/02/2022 1:22 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:14:56 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 16/02/2022 9:12 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 17:52:56 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> You're a fucking moron, in all your guises....
>>>
>>>> *sniff*
>>>> Of course I defer to your knowledge & experience in these matters.
>>>
>>> Do you get a kick out of shit like this, or is someone holding a gun to
>>> your head and forcing you to be this stupid?
>>
>> I'm just baiting ewe!   :-)))))
>
> Really? Funny, as all I could see you doing was making yourself look
> retarded. But hey, if it works for you then knock yourself the fuck out....
>
>
>

It is working for him because you're so fucking dumb that you keep
biting at what is obviously bait.

On 16/02/2022 12:14 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 15/02/2022 4:40 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 15/2/2022 4:25 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 15/2/2022 4:19 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:04:00 +1100, Xeno wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 15/2/2022 2:43 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>>> On 15/02/2022 12:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>> On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
>>>>>>>> noticed
>>>>>>>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>>>>>>>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
>>>>>>>> symphony
>>>>>>>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
>>>>>>>> while it
>>>>>>>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the
>>>>>>>> shifting
>>>>>>>> volume back up to eleven?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift
>>>>>>> settings and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly
>>>>>>> configurable in the shift patterns.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension
>>>>>> again.
>>>>>> Alvey is missing the exhaust burble on trailing throttle that was
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> before it lunched it's thermostat and went to the dealer. My guess is
>>>>>> the dealer mechanic went oh he's a dear old man and wont want that
>>>>>> loud
>>>>>> irritating noise as he changes down gears, let's quieten it down
>>>>>> for him.
>>>>>> Or the mechanic lives nearby and is pissed of with the wally using
>>>>>> excessive trailing throttle in suburban streets and made sure it
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> happen any more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You pick which scenario fits.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, you have comprehensively shown that you haven't a clue. But we
>>>>> already knew that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alvey's A35 has probably has had a soft or hard reset of the
>>>>> ECU/ECM and
>>>>> is now at *default* driving style settings. That will affect both
>>>>> trans
>>>>> and engine settings. All will be well however once the ECU/ECM
>>>>> *relearns* Alvey's driving style and gets back to how he like it. It
>>>>> takes time to do this, 100 kilometres of mixed driving for instance.
>>>>
>>>> Best response from the UK A35 forum;
>>>>
>>>> "If your car suddenly doesn't pop and bangs or you notice the burble is
>>>> gone, it is definitely the ECU detected something amiss and decided
>>>> to play
>>>> safe and cut that feature.
>>>>
>>>> It has happened to me, and a scan did reveal codes. Sometimes, the code
>>>> would take a couple engine cycles to appear, and depending on the
>>>> tool that
>>>> you use to scan, some might not be able to pick it up and require a
>>>> more
>>>> sophisticated scanner.
>>>>
>>>> Either way, the pop and bangs is a good indicator that the ECU detected
>>>> something and requires attention.
>>>>
>>>> And some codes does go away after a couple of engine cycles as the ECU
>>>> deemed that it no longer is valid after monitoring it hence your
>>>> pops and
>>>> bangs came back."
>>>>
>>> Do you have a code reader? Always handy to have one in the glove
>>> compartment. After all, who uses gloves these days anyway.
>>>
>>> Anyway, give it time and it will relearn and settle down.
>>>
>> Forgot to mention, if the beast had been overly warm (thermostat!)
>> then all the valve and ignition settings would have been backed right
>> off to *safe settings* depending on the codes they triggered.
>> Overheating can cause a bit of preignition/detonation and that will
>> definitely trip relevant codes - and lose your snap, crackle and pop.
>> The dealer should have cleared any of those codes however. You could
>> do a *soft reset* on it yourself, not hard to do on Benz vehicles,
>> then go for a drive so the car can relearn.
>>
>
> the Magna used to 'learn' my driving style. not sure if the Lancer does.
>
Right hand lane 45 Km/hr.

On 16/02/2022 5:00 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 16/02/2022 12:14 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 15/02/2022 4:40 pm, Xeno wrote:

>>> Forgot to mention, if the beast had been overly warm (thermostat!)
>>> then all the valve and ignition settings would have been backed right
>>> off to *safe settings* depending on the codes they triggered.
>>> Overheating can cause a bit of preignition/detonation and that will
>>> definitely trip relevant codes - and lose your snap, crackle and pop.
>>> The dealer should have cleared any of those codes however. You could
>>> do a *soft reset* on it yourself, not hard to do on Benz vehicles,
>>> then go for a drive so the car can relearn.

This ↑↑↑↑↑ here is a load of fairytale bullshit and yet *another*
example of how utterly clueless these self appointed "experts" actually
know. ECU's do *not* reset themselves on fault code generation, and
going into "limp mode" does *not* cause a loss of settings requiring a
relearn procedure to be carried out. Limp mode is cleared the moment the
fault code is wiped, and often limp mode only lasts for as long as the
ignition is on and is cleared on the next ignition cycle where it
activates again if the fault is still present.

This is an no brainer. The car allegedly had a faulty thermostat. The
"fix" is nothing more complicated than replacing the thermostat, erasing
the code and the car is back in business. There is no ECU reset
required, and no "relearn" procedure needed to be carried out. Not
unless the fuckwits at the dealership performed a reset because they had
no fucking idea about what else to do.

Fair dinkum these "experts" are ridiculous. I can understand this level
of ignorance from the clueless windbag who has had no connection to the
trade in over a quarter of a century, but the clog wearing Westrayan
fuckwit who continually bleats about the licensing system weeding out
the "shonks" seems to exist around here for no reason other than to show
how much oif a clueless munt you can be while still being capable of
holding a licence.

These cunts are *hopeless* :)

>> the Magna used to 'learn' my driving style. not sure if the Lancer does.
>>
> Right hand lane 45 Km/hr.

ROTFL :)

You can just picture it, can't you? The crusty old dickhead would be
yelling abuse at everyone :)

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On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 17:53:18 +1100, Noddy wrote:

> On 16/02/2022 5:00 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 16/02/2022 12:14 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 15/02/2022 4:40 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>>>> Forgot to mention, if the beast had been overly warm (thermostat!)
>>>> then all the valve and ignition settings would have been backed right
>>>> off to *safe settings* depending on the codes they triggered.
>>>> Overheating can cause a bit of preignition/detonation and that will
>>>> definitely trip relevant codes - and lose your snap, crackle and pop.
>>>> The dealer should have cleared any of those codes however. You could
>>>> do a *soft reset* on it yourself, not hard to do on Benz vehicles,
>>>> then go for a drive so the car can relearn.
>
> This ↑↑↑↑↑ here is a load of fairytale bullshit and yet *another*
> example of how utterly clueless these self appointed "experts" actually
> know. ECU's do *not* reset themselves on fault code generation, and
> going into "limp mode" does *not* cause a loss of settings requiring a
> relearn procedure to be carried out. Limp mode is cleared the moment the
> fault code is wiped, and often limp mode only lasts for as long as the
> ignition is on and is cleared on the next ignition cycle where it
> activates again if the fault is still present.
>
> This is an no brainer. The car allegedly had a faulty thermostat. The
> "fix" is nothing more complicated than replacing the thermostat, erasing
> the code and the car is back in business. There is no ECU reset
> required, and no "relearn" procedure needed to be carried out. Not
> unless the fuckwits at the dealership performed a reset because they had
> no fucking idea about what else to do.
>
> Fair dinkum these "experts" are ridiculous. I can understand this level
> of ignorance from the clueless windbag who has had no connection to the
> trade in over a quarter of a century, but the clog wearing Westrayan
> fuckwit who continually bleats about the licensing system weeding out
> the "shonks" seems to exist around here for no reason other than to show
> how much oif a clueless munt you can be while still being capable of
> holding a licence.
>
> These cunts are *hopeless* :)
>
>>> the Magna used to 'learn' my driving style. not sure if the Lancer does.
>>>
>> Right hand lane 45 Km/hr.
>
> ROTFL :)
>
> You can just picture it, can't you? The crusty old dickhead would be
> yelling abuse at everyone :)

"I drive through the avenue here daily at the posted 60km/h limit as they
often have camera cars hiding behind the trees, and I get people
following so close I can't see their *bonnet* let alone the front of
their car.

I don't give a fuck. The closer they get, the slower I go". Fraudster
28Oct16

Goose.

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On Tuesday, 15 February 2022 at 17:54:58 UTC+11, Clocky wrote:
> On 15/02/2022 11:43 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> > On 15/02/2022 12:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
> >> On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
> >>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
> >>> noticed
> >>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
> >>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
> >>> symphony
> >>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
> >>> while it
> >>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the
> >>> shifting
> >>> volume back up to eleven?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> alvey
> >>>
> >> Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift
> >> settings and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly
> >> configurable in the shift patterns.
> >>
> > And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension again.
> Actually, it reveals your lack of knowledge *and* comprehension so why
> are you attacking Xeno again?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Why not?. The pretentious cunt keeps leading with his chin, and blathering googleoids and bullshit.
Deserves everything it gets..

On 16/2/2022 11:50 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 16/02/2022 11:34 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 16/2/22 9:11 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>
>>> Also let me complain about the screeching rosellas, budgies, parrots,
>>> crows, mynahs etc, who have now moved into town because of all the
>>> trees the council has planted,; you know the ones that drop their
>>> leaves into spouting and downpipes!
>>>
>>
>> Hint, to lessen the likelihood of being thought an idiot its customary
>> if you are joking or being sarcastic to put a smiley at the end of
>> your post.
>
> I think he's a professional fuckwit. His application for FLC membership
> is imminent.
>
Just like you, in other words.

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On 16/2/2022 1:22 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:14:56 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>
>> On 16/02/2022 9:12 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 17:52:56 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> You're a fucking moron, in all your guises....
>>
>>> *sniff*
>>> Of course I defer to your knowledge & experience in these matters.
>>
>> Do you get a kick out of shit like this, or is someone holding a gun to
>> your head and forcing you to be this stupid?
>
> I'm just baiting ewe! :-)))))

You'll have to forgive Darren, he's none too bright, a bit of a dim bulb.

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On Wednesday, 16 February 2022 at 01:11:31 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 15/02/2022 4:25 pm, Xeno wrote:
> > On 15/2/2022 4:19 pm, alvey wrote:
> >> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:04:00 +1100, Xeno wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 15/2/2022 2:43 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> >>>> On 15/02/2022 12:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
> >>>>> On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
> >>>>>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
> >>>>>> noticed
> >>>>>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
> >>>>>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
> >>>>>> symphony
> >>>>>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
> >>>>>> while it
> >>>>>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the
> >>>>>> shifting
> >>>>>> volume back up to eleven?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> alvey
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift
> >>>>> settings and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly
> >>>>> configurable in the shift patterns.
> >>>>>
> >>>> And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension
> >>>> again.
> >>>> Alvey is missing the exhaust burble on trailing throttle that was
> >>>> there
> >>>> before it lunched it's thermostat and went to the dealer. My guess is
> >>>> the dealer mechanic went oh he's a dear old man and wont want that
> >>>> loud
> >>>> irritating noise as he changes down gears, let's quieten it down
> >>>> for him.
> >>>> Or the mechanic lives nearby and is pissed of with the wally using
> >>>> excessive trailing throttle in suburban streets and made sure it
> >>>> doesn't
> >>>> happen any more.
> >>>>
> >>>> You pick which scenario fits.
> >>>
> >>> Well, you have comprehensively shown that you haven't a clue. But we
> >>> already knew that.
> >>>
> >>> Alvey's A35 has probably has had a soft or hard reset of the ECU/ECM
> >>> and
> >>> is now at *default* driving style settings. That will affect both trans
> >>> and engine settings. All will be well however once the ECU/ECM
> >>> *relearns* Alvey's driving style and gets back to how he like it. It
> >>> takes time to do this, 100 kilometres of mixed driving for instance.
> >>
> >> Best response from the UK A35 forum;
> >>
> >> "If your car suddenly doesn't pop and bangs or you notice the burble is
> >> gone, it is definitely the ECU detected something amiss and decided
> >> to play
> >> safe and cut that feature.
> >>
> >> It has happened to me, and a scan did reveal codes. Sometimes, the code
> >> would take a couple engine cycles to appear, and depending on the
> >> tool that
> >> you use to scan, some might not be able to pick it up and require a more
> >> sophisticated scanner.
> >>
> >> Either way, the pop and bangs is a good indicator that the ECU detected
> >> something and requires attention.
> >>
> >> And some codes does go away after a couple of engine cycles as the ECU
> >> deemed that it no longer is valid after monitoring it hence your pops
> >> and
> >> bangs came back."
> >>
> > Do you have a code reader? Always handy to have one in the glove
> > compartment. After all, who uses gloves these days anyway.
> these days you need the glove compartment for your gun, machette, and
> knuckle duster..
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``
Hahahahahahaha.....I got a mental image of the silly old cunt brandishing *ANY* of those...OFFS. <FBG>
Just for yer edification, there is *one* T in machete. <HTH>
> >
> > Anyway, give it time and it will relearn and settle down.
> >
> --
> https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam
> "His opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
> the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
> "His self serving ego pumping comments just
> read like witless wankery"- Clocky on Keefy

On Wednesday, 16 February 2022 at 20:35:12 UTC+11, Xeno wrote:
> On 16/2/2022 11:50 am, Noddy wrote:
> > On 16/02/2022 11:34 am, Daryl wrote:
> >> On 16/2/22 9:11 am, Peter Jason wrote:
> >
> >>> Also let me complain about the screeching rosellas, budgies, parrots,
> >>> crows, mynahs etc, who have now moved into town because of all the
> >>> trees the council has planted,; you know the ones that drop their
> >>> leaves into spouting and downpipes!
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hint, to lessen the likelihood of being thought an idiot its customary
> >> if you are joking or being sarcastic to put a smiley at the end of
> >> your post.
> >
> > I think he's a professional fuckwit. His application for FLC membership
> > is imminent.
> >
> Just like you, in other words.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
No you, squeaks little krypsis.
Apologies to Keith. :)
> --
> Xeno
>
>
> Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
> (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 16/02/2022 4:53 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 16/02/2022 5:00 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 16/02/2022 12:14 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 15/02/2022 4:40 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>>>> Forgot to mention, if the beast had been overly warm (thermostat!)
>>>> then all the valve and ignition settings would have been backed
>>>> right off to *safe settings* depending on the codes they triggered.
>>>> Overheating can cause a bit of preignition/detonation and that will
>>>> definitely trip relevant codes - and lose your snap, crackle and
>>>> pop. The dealer should have cleared any of those codes however. You
>>>> could do a *soft reset* on it yourself, not hard to do on Benz
>>>> vehicles, then go for a drive so the car can relearn.
>
> This ↑↑↑↑↑ here is a load of fairytale bullshit and yet *another*
> example of how utterly clueless these self appointed "experts" actually
> know. ECU's do *not* reset themselves on fault code generation, and
> going into "limp mode" does *not* cause a loss of settings requiring a
> relearn procedure to be carried out. Limp mode is cleared the moment the
> fault code is wiped, and often limp mode only lasts for as long as the
> ignition is on and is cleared on the next ignition cycle where it
> activates again if the fault is still present.

Not having worked with ECUs I can't really comment, but as a software
developer, clearing all the data along with a fault code would seem
pretty stupid. Even if a software update was applied, there is usually
no reason to clear the data.

On 16/2/22 5:53 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 16/02/2022 5:00 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 16/02/2022 12:14 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 15/02/2022 4:40 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>>>> Forgot to mention, if the beast had been overly warm (thermostat!)
>>>> then all the valve and ignition settings would have been backed
>>>> right off to *safe settings* depending on the codes they triggered.
>>>> Overheating can cause a bit of preignition/detonation and that will
>>>> definitely trip relevant codes - and lose your snap, crackle and
>>>> pop. The dealer should have cleared any of those codes however. You
>>>> could do a *soft reset* on it yourself, not hard to do on Benz
>>>> vehicles, then go for a drive so the car can relearn.
>
> This ↑↑↑↑↑ here is a load of fairytale bullshit and yet *another*
> example of how utterly clueless these self appointed "experts" actually
> know. ECU's do *not* reset themselves on fault code generation, and
> going into "limp mode" does *not* cause a loss of settings requiring a
> relearn procedure to be carried out. Limp mode is cleared the moment the
> fault code is wiped, and often limp mode only lasts for as long as the
> ignition is on and is cleared on the next ignition cycle where it
> activates again if the fault is still present.

I can "reset" the trans on my Benz, press a button and the accelerator
pedal a certain way and it resets the trans shift points back to default
but nothing with the engine.
Once a fault that caused the engine to go into limp mode is cleared the
engine just returns to using the normal ecu map.
>
> This is an no brainer. The car allegedly had a faulty thermostat. The
> "fix" is nothing more complicated than replacing the thermostat, erasing
> the code and the car is back in business. There is no ECU reset
> required, and no "relearn" procedure needed to be carried out. Not
> unless the fuckwits at the dealership performed a reset because they had
> no fucking idea about what else to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOrgZDdsGK4
The video explains the A35 driving modes, in the first minute he
explains how to turn on "loud mode", I suspect that when the dealer
cleared the codes it went back to "normal" where any "normal" person
would leave it.
The thing I like most about my MB is how quiet it is, noisy exhausts are
for bogans and small children.

--
Daryl

On 16/2/22 8:37 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, 16 February 2022 at 01:11:31 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 15/02/2022 4:25 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 15/2/2022 4:19 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:04:00 +1100, Xeno wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 15/2/2022 2:43 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>>> On 15/02/2022 12:11 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>>> On 15/2/2022 12:44 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>> Got the A35 back from the dealers last Friday arvo and immediately
>>>>>>>> noticed
>>>>>>>> that the prominent snap, crackle & pop from the exhaust has almost
>>>>>>>> disappeared. It still takes off like a stabbed rat, but I miss the
>>>>>>>> symphony
>>>>>>>> of the downshifts. I'm guessing that they did a software 'update'
>>>>>>>> while it
>>>>>>>> was in the shop. Would that be correct? And if so, can I get the
>>>>>>>> shifting
>>>>>>>> volume back up to eleven?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> alvey
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or they *reset it* more likely. I take it you can change shift
>>>>>>> settings and the like. Most of cars of that ilk are fairly
>>>>>>> configurable in the shift patterns.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> And here we have xeno showing his complete lack of comprehension
>>>>>> again.
>>>>>> Alvey is missing the exhaust burble on trailing throttle that was
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> before it lunched it's thermostat and went to the dealer. My guess is
>>>>>> the dealer mechanic went oh he's a dear old man and wont want that
>>>>>> loud
>>>>>> irritating noise as he changes down gears, let's quieten it down
>>>>>> for him.
>>>>>> Or the mechanic lives nearby and is pissed of with the wally using
>>>>>> excessive trailing throttle in suburban streets and made sure it
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> happen any more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You pick which scenario fits.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, you have comprehensively shown that you haven't a clue. But we
>>>>> already knew that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alvey's A35 has probably has had a soft or hard reset of the ECU/ECM
>>>>> and
>>>>> is now at *default* driving style settings. That will affect both trans
>>>>> and engine settings. All will be well however once the ECU/ECM
>>>>> *relearns* Alvey's driving style and gets back to how he like it. It
>>>>> takes time to do this, 100 kilometres of mixed driving for instance.
>>>>
>>>> Best response from the UK A35 forum;
>>>>
>>>> "If your car suddenly doesn't pop and bangs or you notice the burble is
>>>> gone, it is definitely the ECU detected something amiss and decided
>>>> to play
>>>> safe and cut that feature.
>>>>
>>>> It has happened to me, and a scan did reveal codes. Sometimes, the code
>>>> would take a couple engine cycles to appear, and depending on the
>>>> tool that
>>>> you use to scan, some might not be able to pick it up and require a more
>>>> sophisticated scanner.
>>>>
>>>> Either way, the pop and bangs is a good indicator that the ECU detected
>>>> something and requires attention.
>>>>
>>>> And some codes does go away after a couple of engine cycles as the ECU
>>>> deemed that it no longer is valid after monitoring it hence your pops
>>>> and
>>>> bangs came back."
>>>>
>>> Do you have a code reader? Always handy to have one in the glove
>>> compartment. After all, who uses gloves these days anyway.
>> these days you need the glove compartment for your gun, machette, and
>> knuckle duster..
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``
> Hahahahahahaha.....I got a mental image of the silly old cunt brandishing *ANY* of those...OFFS. <FBG>
> Just for yer edification, there is *one* T in machete. <HTH>

Should I notify the Vic Police that there is a lunatic driving around
Carnegie/Murrumbeena in a Lancer with a glove box full of deadly weapons?

--
Daryl

On 16/02/2022 8:32 pm, Daryl wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOrgZDdsGK4
> The video explains the A35 driving modes, in the first minute he
> explains how to turn on "loud mode", I suspect that when the dealer
> cleared the codes it went back to "normal" where any "normal" person
> would leave it.
> The thing I like most about my MB is how quiet it is, noisy exhausts are
> for bogans and small children.

So no ecu reset rather they took it out of sport plus mode so it no
longer pops bangs and crackles. Good grief our resident experts are
covered in eggs.

On 16/02/2022 9:25 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 16/02/2022 4:53 pm, Noddy wrote:

>> This ↑↑↑↑↑ here is a load of fairytale bullshit and yet *another*
>> example of how utterly clueless these self appointed "experts"
>> actually know. ECU's do *not* reset themselves on fault code
>> generation, and going into "limp mode" does *not* cause a loss of
>> settings requiring a relearn procedure to be carried out. Limp mode is
>> cleared the moment the fault code is wiped, and often limp mode only
>> lasts for as long as the ignition is on and is cleared on the next
>> ignition cycle where it activates again if the fault is still present.
>
> Not having worked with ECUs I can't really comment, but as a software
> developer, clearing all the data along with a fault code would seem
> pretty stupid. Even if a software update was applied, there is usually
> no reason to clear the data.

Resetting an ECU is not part of the normal fault clearing process and is
completely uneccessary in the type of situation that Alvey's penis
extention was subjected to. As I mentioned, in his case it was simply a
matter of fixing the physical fault, clearing the code and he's back in
business. There is xero reason to reset the ECU for such a repair, and
the "noise" he's complaining about is probably a selectable option
that's been turned off and he simply has no idea how to turn it back on.

This is a moron who couldn't tell the difference between a switch and a
warning lamp.....

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 16/02/2022 6:23 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 17:53:18 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>
>> On 16/02/2022 5:00 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 16/02/2022 12:14 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 15/02/2022 4:40 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>> Forgot to mention, if the beast had been overly warm (thermostat!)
>>>>> then all the valve and ignition settings would have been backed right
>>>>> off to *safe settings* depending on the codes they triggered.
>>>>> Overheating can cause a bit of preignition/detonation and that will
>>>>> definitely trip relevant codes - and lose your snap, crackle and pop.
>>>>> The dealer should have cleared any of those codes however. You could
>>>>> do a *soft reset* on it yourself, not hard to do on Benz vehicles,
>>>>> then go for a drive so the car can relearn.
>> This ↑↑↑↑↑ here is a load of fairytale bullshit and yet *another*
>> example of how utterly clueless these self appointed "experts" actually
>> know. ECU's do *not* reset themselves on fault code generation, and
>> going into "limp mode" does *not* cause a loss of settings requiring a
>> relearn procedure to be carried out. Limp mode is cleared the moment the
>> fault code is wiped, and often limp mode only lasts for as long as the
>> ignition is on and is cleared on the next ignition cycle where it
>> activates again if the fault is still present.
>>
>> This is an no brainer. The car allegedly had a faulty thermostat. The
>> "fix" is nothing more complicated than replacing the thermostat, erasing
>> the code and the car is back in business. There is no ECU reset
>> required, and no "relearn" procedure needed to be carried out. Not
>> unless the fuckwits at the dealership performed a reset because they had
>> no fucking idea about what else to do.
>>
>> Fair dinkum these "experts" are ridiculous. I can understand this level
>> of ignorance from the clueless windbag who has had no connection to the
>> trade in over a quarter of a century, but the clog wearing Westrayan
>> fuckwit who continually bleats about the licensing system weeding out
>> the "shonks" seems to exist around here for no reason other than to show
>> how much oif a clueless munt you can be while still being capable of
>> holding a licence.
>>
>> These cunts are *hopeless* :)
>>
>>>> the Magna used to 'learn' my driving style. not sure if the Lancer does.
>>>>
>>> Right hand lane 45 Km/hr.
>> ROTFL :)
>>
>> You can just picture it, can't you? The crusty old dickhead would be
>> yelling abuse at everyone :)
> "I drive through the avenue here daily at the posted 60km/h limit as they
> often have camera cars hiding behind the trees, and I get people
> following so close I can't see their *bonnet* let alone the front of
> their car.
>
> I don't give a fuck. The closer they get, the slower I go". Fraudster
> 28Oct16
>
> Goose.
>

I agree with him on this one. if someone is tailgating me so close when
I'm doing the max speed, I'll keep slowing down until they back off, or
stab the brakes. some drivers are just so dumb. a while ago I was towing
a trailer full of furniture on a single lane road with a 100 k limit and
was driving at 60ks so it wouldn't get damaged by being bounced around.
eventually a whole line of cars were behind me. ffs, all they had to do
was pass!

>
> alvey
>
>

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam
"His opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
"His self serving ego pumping comments just
read like witless wankery"- Clocky on Keefy

On 16/02/2022 9:25 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 16/02/2022 4:53 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 16/02/2022 5:00 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 16/02/2022 12:14 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 15/02/2022 4:40 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>>>> Forgot to mention, if the beast had been overly warm (thermostat!)
>>>>> then all the valve and ignition settings would have been backed
>>>>> right off to *safe settings* depending on the codes they
>>>>> triggered. Overheating can cause a bit of preignition/detonation
>>>>> and that will definitely trip relevant codes - and lose your snap,
>>>>> crackle and pop. The dealer should have cleared any of those codes
>>>>> however. You could do a *soft reset* on it yourself, not hard to
>>>>> do on Benz vehicles, then go for a drive so the car can relearn.
>>
>> This ↑↑↑↑↑ here is a load of fairytale bullshit and yet *another*
>> example of how utterly clueless these self appointed "experts"
>> actually know. ECU's do *not* reset themselves on fault code
>> generation, and going into "limp mode" does *not* cause a loss of
>> settings requiring a relearn procedure to be carried out. Limp mode
>> is cleared the moment the fault code is wiped, and often limp mode
>> only lasts for as long as the ignition is on and is cleared on the
>> next ignition cycle where it activates again if the fault is still
>> present.
>
> Not having worked with ECUs I can't really comment, but as a software
> developer, clearing all the data along with a fault code would seem
> pretty stupid. Even if a software update was applied, there is usually
> no reason to clear the data.
>

same when you update a GPS you don't lose the map data

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam
"His opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
"His self serving ego pumping comments just
read like witless wankery"- Clocky on Keefy

On 16/02/2022 9:32 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 16/2/22 5:53 pm, Noddy wrote:

>> This ↑↑↑↑↑ here is a load of fairytale bullshit and yet *another*
>> example of how utterly clueless these self appointed "experts"
>> actually know. ECU's do *not* reset themselves on fault code
>> generation, and going into "limp mode" does *not* cause a loss of
>> settings requiring a relearn procedure to be carried out. Limp mode is
>> cleared the moment the fault code is wiped, and often limp mode only
>> lasts for as long as the ignition is on and is cleared on the next
>> ignition cycle where it activates again if the fault is still present.
>
> I can "reset" the trans on my Benz, press a button and the accelerator
> pedal a certain way and it resets the trans shift points back to default
> but nothing with the engine.

Does it have a separate transmission controller like the Falcons of that
era?

> Once a fault that caused the engine to go into limp mode is cleared the
> engine just returns to using the normal ecu map.

As it should do. There is absolutely no reason to "reset" anything.

>> This is an no brainer. The car allegedly had a faulty thermostat. The
>> "fix" is nothing more complicated than replacing the thermostat,
>> erasing the code and the car is back in business. There is no ECU
>> reset required, and no "relearn" procedure needed to be carried out.
>> Not unless the fuckwits at the dealership performed a reset because
>> they had no fucking idea about what else to do.
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOrgZDdsGK4
> The video explains the A35 driving modes, in the first minute he
> explains how to turn on "loud mode", I suspect that when the dealer
> cleared the codes it went back to "normal" where any "normal" person
> would leave it.

Or they just turned it off because it's wank and they're sick to death
of the things.

> The thing I like most about my MB is how quiet it is, noisy exhausts are
> for bogans and small children.

Yep. Alvey qualifies on both those fronts, so it's no wonder that he's
sooking because his pretentious twatmobile now no longer sounds like a
Mario Kart.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 16/02/2022 10:00 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 16/2/22 8:37 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:

>>>> Do you have a code reader? Always handy to have one in the glove
>>>> compartment. After all, who uses gloves these days anyway.
>>> these days you need the glove compartment for your gun, machette, and
>>> knuckle duster..
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``
>>    Hahahahahahaha.....I got a mental image of the silly old cunt
>> brandishing *ANY* of those...OFFS. <FBG>
>>              Just for yer edification, there is *one* T in machete. <HTH>
>
> Should I notify the Vic Police that there is a lunatic driving around
> Carnegie/Murrumbeena in a Lancer with a glove box full of deadly weapons?

Lol :)

They'll be Nerf versions. I don't think he's allowed to have anything
sharp :)

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--
Regards,
Noddy.