On 16/02/2022 10:17 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> On 16/02/2022 8:32 pm, Daryl wrote:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOrgZDdsGK4
>> The video explains the A35 driving modes, in the first minute he
>> explains how to turn on "loud mode", I suspect that when the dealer
>> cleared the codes it went back to "normal" where any "normal" person
>> would leave it.
>> The thing I like most about my MB is how quiet it is, noisy exhausts
>> are for bogans and small children.
>
> So no ecu reset rather they took it out of sport plus mode so it no
> longer pops bangs and crackles. Good grief our resident experts are
> covered in eggs.

They're completely clueless, but then this is hardly breaking news.
Everyone has known it for some time :)

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On Wednesday, 16 February 2022 at 21:32:37 UTC+11, Daryl wrote:
> On 16/2/22 5:53 pm, Noddy wrote:
> > On 16/02/2022 5:00 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> >> On 16/02/2022 12:14 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >>> On 15/02/2022 4:40 pm, Xeno wrote:
> >
> >>>> Forgot to mention, if the beast had been overly warm (thermostat!)
> >>>> then all the valve and ignition settings would have been backed
> >>>> right off to *safe settings* depending on the codes they triggered.
> >>>> Overheating can cause a bit of preignition/detonation and that will
> >>>> definitely trip relevant codes - and lose your snap, crackle and
> >>>> pop. The dealer should have cleared any of those codes however. You
> >>>> could do a *soft reset* on it yourself, not hard to do on Benz
> >>>> vehicles, then go for a drive so the car can relearn.
> >
> > This ↑↑↑↑↑ here is a load of fairytale bullshit and yet *another*
> > example of how utterly clueless these self appointed "experts" actually
> > know. ECU's do *not* reset themselves on fault code generation, and
> > going into "limp mode" does *not* cause a loss of settings requiring a
> > relearn procedure to be carried out. Limp mode is cleared the moment the
> > fault code is wiped, and often limp mode only lasts for as long as the
> > ignition is on and is cleared on the next ignition cycle where it
> > activates again if the fault is still present.
> I can "reset" the trans on my Benz, press a button and the accelerator
> pedal a certain way and it resets the trans shift points back to default
> but nothing with the engine.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
My Jeep is the same.

> Once a fault that caused the engine to go into limp mode is cleared the
> engine just returns to using the normal ecu map.
> >
> > This is an no brainer. The car allegedly had a faulty thermostat. The
> > "fix" is nothing more complicated than replacing the thermostat, erasing
> > the code and the car is back in business. There is no ECU reset
> > required, and no "relearn" procedure needed to be carried out. Not
> > unless the fuckwits at the dealership performed a reset because they had
> > no fucking idea about what else to do.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOrgZDdsGK4
> The video explains the A35 driving modes, in the first minute he
> explains how to turn on "loud mode", I suspect that when the dealer
> cleared the codes it went back to "normal" where any "normal" person
> would leave it.
> The thing I like most about my MB is how quiet it is, noisy exhausts are
> for bogans and small children.
>
>
> --
> Daryl

On Wednesday, 16 February 2022 at 22:27:24 UTC+11, Noddy wrote:
> On 16/02/2022 9:32 pm, Daryl wrote:
> > On 16/2/22 5:53 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
> >> This ↑↑↑↑↑ here is a load of fairytale bullshit and yet *another*
> >> example of how utterly clueless these self appointed "experts"
> >> actually know. ECU's do *not* reset themselves on fault code
> >> generation, and going into "limp mode" does *not* cause a loss of
> >> settings requiring a relearn procedure to be carried out. Limp mode is
> >> cleared the moment the fault code is wiped, and often limp mode only
> >> lasts for as long as the ignition is on and is cleared on the next
> >> ignition cycle where it activates again if the fault is still present.
> >
> > I can "reset" the trans on my Benz, press a button and the accelerator
> > pedal a certain way and it resets the trans shift points back to default
> > but nothing with the engine.
> Does it have a separate transmission controller like the Falcons of that
> era?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If its anything like my Jeep, It`s simply a mechanical adjustment.
(A fairly critical one. Tho I do have a TCU)

> > Once a fault that caused the engine to go into limp mode is cleared the
> > engine just returns to using the normal ecu map.
> As it should do. There is absolutely no reason to "reset" anything.
> >> This is an no brainer. The car allegedly had a faulty thermostat. The
> >> "fix" is nothing more complicated than replacing the thermostat,
> >> erasing the code and the car is back in business. There is no ECU
> >> reset required, and no "relearn" procedure needed to be carried out.
> >> Not unless the fuckwits at the dealership performed a reset because
> >> they had no fucking idea about what else to do.
> >
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOrgZDdsGK4

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Sport and comfort eh?, Once again, my old Jeep has the same thing....(Ho -Hum)
All that shit on the screen is just that ....Irrelevant crap!.
Absolute wankmobile...
Alvira better watch out, she`ll get watching the screen and crash the fuckin' thing..<FBG>

> > The video explains the A35 driving modes, in the first minute he
> > explains how to turn on "loud mode", I suspect that when the dealer
> > cleared the codes it went back to "normal" where any "normal" person
> > would leave it.
~~~~~~~~~~~
True dat.
Actually after seeing that review, I get the feeling that alvira dosn`t *have a clue* about the systems operation. <G>

> Or they just turned it off because it's wank and they're sick to death
> of the things.
> > The thing I like most about my MB is how quiet it is, noisy exhausts are
> > for bogans and small children.
> Yep. Alvey qualifies on both those fronts, so it's no wonder that he's
> sooking because his pretentious twatmobile now no longer sounds like a
> Mario Kart.
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> Noddy.

On 16/02/2022 2:53 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 16/02/2022 5:00 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 16/02/2022 12:14 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 15/02/2022 4:40 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>>>> Forgot to mention, if the beast had been overly warm (thermostat!)
>>>> then all the valve and ignition settings would have been backed
>>>> right off to *safe settings* depending on the codes they triggered.
>>>> Overheating can cause a bit of preignition/detonation and that will
>>>> definitely trip relevant codes - and lose your snap, crackle and
>>>> pop. The dealer should have cleared any of those codes however. You
>>>> could do a *soft reset* on it yourself, not hard to do on Benz
>>>> vehicles, then go for a drive so the car can relearn.
>
> This ↑↑↑↑↑ here is a load of fairytale bullshit and yet *another*
> example of how utterly clueless these self appointed "experts" actually
> know. ECU's do *not* reset themselves on fault code generation, and
> going into "limp mode" does *not* cause a loss of settings requiring a
> relearn procedure to be carried out.

FFS you laughable incompetent halfbake, give it up!

You're *so* fucking dumb and *so* far out of your depth here.

On 16/02/2022 6:25 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 16/02/2022 4:53 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 16/02/2022 5:00 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 16/02/2022 12:14 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 15/02/2022 4:40 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>>>> Forgot to mention, if the beast had been overly warm (thermostat!)
>>>>> then all the valve and ignition settings would have been backed
>>>>> right off to *safe settings* depending on the codes they triggered.
>>>>> Overheating can cause a bit of preignition/detonation and that will
>>>>> definitely trip relevant codes - and lose your snap, crackle and
>>>>> pop. The dealer should have cleared any of those codes however. You
>>>>> could do a *soft reset* on it yourself, not hard to do on Benz
>>>>> vehicles, then go for a drive so the car can relearn.
>>
>> This ↑↑↑↑↑ here is a load of fairytale bullshit and yet *another*
>> example of how utterly clueless these self appointed "experts"
>> actually know. ECU's do *not* reset themselves on fault code
>> generation, and going into "limp mode" does *not* cause a loss of
>> settings requiring a relearn procedure to be carried out. Limp mode is
>> cleared the moment the fault code is wiped, and often limp mode only
>> lasts for as long as the ignition is on and is cleared on the next
>> ignition cycle where it activates again if the fault is still present.
>
> Not having worked with ECUs I can't really comment,

No, clearly you can't but that's OK - you have an excuse but neither can
Noddy who apparently can't even comprehend what was said because he has
no experience with any of this stuff either.

He will agree with you out of ignorance and to have a crack, but that's
just a cover for his lack of knowledge that is on full display.

On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 22:24:13 +1100, Yosemite Sam wrote:

> On 16/02/2022 6:23 pm, alvey wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 17:53:18 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>> On 16/02/2022 5:00 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 16/02/2022 12:14 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 15/02/2022 4:40 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> Forgot to mention, if the beast had been overly warm (thermostat!)
>>>>>> then all the valve and ignition settings would have been backed right
>>>>>> off to *safe settings* depending on the codes they triggered.
>>>>>> Overheating can cause a bit of preignition/detonation and that will
>>>>>> definitely trip relevant codes - and lose your snap, crackle and pop.
>>>>>> The dealer should have cleared any of those codes however. You could
>>>>>> do a *soft reset* on it yourself, not hard to do on Benz vehicles,
>>>>>> then go for a drive so the car can relearn.
>>> This ↑↑↑↑↑ here is a load of fairytale bullshit and yet *another*
>>> example of how utterly clueless these self appointed "experts" actually
>>> know. ECU's do *not* reset themselves on fault code generation, and
>>> going into "limp mode" does *not* cause a loss of settings requiring a
>>> relearn procedure to be carried out. Limp mode is cleared the moment the
>>> fault code is wiped, and often limp mode only lasts for as long as the
>>> ignition is on and is cleared on the next ignition cycle where it
>>> activates again if the fault is still present.
>>>
>>> This is an no brainer. The car allegedly had a faulty thermostat. The
>>> "fix" is nothing more complicated than replacing the thermostat, erasing
>>> the code and the car is back in business. There is no ECU reset
>>> required, and no "relearn" procedure needed to be carried out. Not
>>> unless the fuckwits at the dealership performed a reset because they had
>>> no fucking idea about what else to do.
>>>
>>> Fair dinkum these "experts" are ridiculous. I can understand this level
>>> of ignorance from the clueless windbag who has had no connection to the
>>> trade in over a quarter of a century, but the clog wearing Westrayan
>>> fuckwit who continually bleats about the licensing system weeding out
>>> the "shonks" seems to exist around here for no reason other than to show
>>> how much oif a clueless munt you can be while still being capable of
>>> holding a licence.
>>>
>>> These cunts are *hopeless* :)
>>>
>>>>> the Magna used to 'learn' my driving style. not sure if the Lancer does.
>>>>>
>>>> Right hand lane 45 Km/hr.
>>> ROTFL :)
>>>
>>> You can just picture it, can't you? The crusty old dickhead would be
>>> yelling abuse at everyone :)
>> "I drive through the avenue here daily at the posted 60km/h limit as they
>> often have camera cars hiding behind the trees, and I get people
>> following so close I can't see their *bonnet* let alone the front of
>> their car.
>>
>> I don't give a fuck. The closer they get, the slower I go". Fraudster
>> 28Oct16
>>
>> Goose.
>>
>
> I agree with him on this one. if someone is tailgating me so close when
> I'm doing the max speed, I'll keep slowing down until they back off, or
> stab the brakes. some drivers are just so dumb.

Right. So there you, trundling along a single lane road (multi lanes are a
whole different kettle of rants), at the speed limit and someone is
sniffing your exhaust pipe. Which of the following alternatives is most
likely to induce an accident or road rage?

a. Speeding up
b. Maintaining the speed limit.
c. Slowing down.

alvey

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On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 20:25:36 +1000, keithr0 wrote:

>
> Not having worked with ECUs I can't really comment, but as a software
> developer, clearing all the data along with a fault code would seem
> pretty stupid. Even if a software update was applied, there is usually
> no reason to clear the data.

Tell me keith, what exactly did you do as a "software developer"?

alvey

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On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 20:42:40 +0800, Clocky wrote:

> On 16/02/2022 6:25 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 16/02/2022 4:53 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 16/02/2022 5:00 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 16/02/2022 12:14 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 15/02/2022 4:40 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Forgot to mention, if the beast had been overly warm (thermostat!)
>>>>>> then all the valve and ignition settings would have been backed
>>>>>> right off to *safe settings* depending on the codes they triggered.
>>>>>> Overheating can cause a bit of preignition/detonation and that will
>>>>>> definitely trip relevant codes - and lose your snap, crackle and
>>>>>> pop. The dealer should have cleared any of those codes however. You
>>>>>> could do a *soft reset* on it yourself, not hard to do on Benz
>>>>>> vehicles, then go for a drive so the car can relearn.
>>>
>>> This ↑↑↑↑↑ here is a load of fairytale bullshit and yet *another*
>>> example of how utterly clueless these self appointed "experts"
>>> actually know. ECU's do *not* reset themselves on fault code
>>> generation, and going into "limp mode" does *not* cause a loss of
>>> settings requiring a relearn procedure to be carried out. Limp mode is
>>> cleared the moment the fault code is wiped, and often limp mode only
>>> lasts for as long as the ignition is on and is cleared on the next
>>> ignition cycle where it activates again if the fault is still present.
>>
>> Not having worked with ECUs I can't really comment,
>
> No, clearly you can't but that's OK - you have an excuse but neither can
> Noddy who apparently can't even comprehend what was said because he has
> no experience with any of this stuff either.
>
> He will agree with you out of ignorance and to have a crack, but that's
> just a cover for his lack of knowledge that is on full display.

Sure looks like that. He's had time to Google now, but what he's written
reads like he didn't understand it. Situation normal IOW.

/* parody start */

Remember that this is the moron who claimed that financial planners always
take 4% of your "account".

/* parody end */

alvey
“Don't let reality get in the way of his fantasy Keith. He thinks he's all
over this, despite him having zero personal experience with the product”.
Fraudster, 02Nov21

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On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 21:32:31 +1100, Daryl wrote:

>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOrgZDdsGK4
> The video explains the A35 driving modes, in the first minute he
> explains how to turn on "loud mode", I suspect that when the dealer
> cleared the codes it went back to "normal" where any "normal" person
> would leave it.

Wrong on all counts Deryl.

The dull presenter *isn't* turning on "loud mode", he's *starting the car*
with an audio flourish. It reverts to whatever the current setting is as
soon as you release the shifter.

My default choice of setting is Normal.

> The thing I like most about my MB is how quiet it is, noisy exhausts are
> for bogans and small children.

Good for you Deryl! However those of us who actually enjoy driving a car
with a bit of go believe that a bit of appropriate noise is a desirable
thing.

alvey

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On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 21:17:06 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:

> On 16/02/2022 8:32 pm, Daryl wrote:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOrgZDdsGK4
>> The video explains the A35 driving modes, in the first minute he
>> explains how to turn on "loud mode", I suspect that when the dealer
>> cleared the codes it went back to "normal" where any "normal" person
>> would leave it.
>> The thing I like most about my MB is how quiet it is, noisy exhausts are
>> for bogans and small children.
>
> So no ecu reset rather they took it out of sport plus mode so it no
> longer pops bangs and crackles. Good grief our resident experts are
> covered in eggs.

'Fraid not Gumps.
Here. Borrow my spatula.

btw Gumps... How come you're joining the mob that's 'attacking' me? Didn't
you say that the reason you defend Fraudster is because he's being ganged
up on?

alvey

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On 17/02/2022 5:58 am, alvey wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 20:25:36 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>
>>
>> Not having worked with ECUs I can't really comment, but as a software
>> developer, clearing all the data along with a fault code would seem
>> pretty stupid. Even if a software update was applied, there is usually
>> no reason to clear the data.
>
> Tell me keith, what exactly did you do as a "software developer"?

Develop software. Next question.

On 17/02/2022 6:42 am, alvey wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 21:17:06 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>
>> On 16/02/2022 8:32 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOrgZDdsGK4
>>> The video explains the A35 driving modes, in the first minute he
>>> explains how to turn on "loud mode", I suspect that when the dealer
>>> cleared the codes it went back to "normal" where any "normal" person
>>> would leave it.
>>> The thing I like most about my MB is how quiet it is, noisy exhausts are
>>> for bogans and small children.
>>
>> So no ecu reset rather they took it out of sport plus mode so it no
>> longer pops bangs and crackles. Good grief our resident experts are
>> covered in eggs.
>
> 'Fraid not Gumps.
> Here. Borrow my spatula.
>
> btw Gumps... How come you're joining the mob that's 'attacking' me? Didn't
> you say that the reason you defend Fraudster is because he's being ganged
> up on?
>
I wasn't attacking you as I stated our resident experts. That doesn't
include you.

Doing some basic googling shows that it opens the comfort valves in
sports + mode allowing the pops etc, however other people complaining of
the issue state that the ecu has a code set. Maybe your dealer didn't
clear the codes after the thermostat failure hence it is not working.

Some state the code clears after a couple of days once the issue is
resolved, others have had to have the code cleared or the comfort valves
serviced (lubricated) as they became stuck.

On 16/02/2022 8:32 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 16/2/22 5:53 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 16/02/2022 5:00 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 16/02/2022 12:14 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 15/02/2022 4:40 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>
>>>>> Forgot to mention, if the beast had been overly warm (thermostat!)
>>>>> then all the valve and ignition settings would have been backed
>>>>> right off to *safe settings* depending on the codes they triggered.
>>>>> Overheating can cause a bit of preignition/detonation and that will
>>>>> definitely trip relevant codes - and lose your snap, crackle and
>>>>> pop. The dealer should have cleared any of those codes however. You
>>>>> could do a *soft reset* on it yourself, not hard to do on Benz
>>>>> vehicles, then go for a drive so the car can relearn.
>>
>> This ↑↑↑↑↑ here is a load of fairytale bullshit and yet *another*
>> example of how utterly clueless these self appointed "experts"
>> actually know. ECU's do *not* reset themselves on fault code
>> generation, and going into "limp mode" does *not* cause a loss of
>> settings requiring a relearn procedure to be carried out. Limp mode is
>> cleared the moment the fault code is wiped, and often limp mode only
>> lasts for as long as the ignition is on and is cleared on the next
>> ignition cycle where it activates again if the fault is still present.
>
> I can "reset" the trans on my Benz, press a button and the accelerator
> pedal a certain way and it resets the trans shift points back to default
> but nothing with the engine.
> Once a fault that caused the engine to go into limp mode is cleared the
> engine just returns to using the normal ecu map.
>>
>> This is an no brainer. The car allegedly had a faulty thermostat. The
>> "fix" is nothing more complicated than replacing the thermostat,
>> erasing the code and the car is back in business. There is no ECU
>> reset required, and no "relearn" procedure needed to be carried out.
>> Not unless the fuckwits at the dealership performed a reset because
>> they had no fucking idea about what else to do.
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOrgZDdsGK4
> The video explains the A35 driving modes, in the first minute he
> explains how to turn on "loud mode", I suspect that when the dealer
> cleared the codes it went back to "normal" where any "normal" person
> would leave it.
> The thing I like most about my MB is how quiet it is, noisy exhausts are
> for bogans and small children.
>
>
"Loud mode"? More like pretentious hoon mode.

On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 07:15:31 +1000, keithr0 wrote:

> On 17/02/2022 5:58 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 20:25:36 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Not having worked with ECUs I can't really comment, but as a software
>>> developer, clearing all the data along with a fault code would seem
>>> pretty stupid. Even if a software update was applied, there is usually
>>> no reason to clear the data.
>>
>> Tell me keith, what exactly did you do as a "software developer"?
>
> Develop software. Next question.

What language(s)?

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On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 07:17:16 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:

> On 17/02/2022 6:42 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 21:17:06 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>
>>> On 16/02/2022 8:32 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOrgZDdsGK4
>>>> The video explains the A35 driving modes, in the first minute he
>>>> explains how to turn on "loud mode", I suspect that when the dealer
>>>> cleared the codes it went back to "normal" where any "normal" person
>>>> would leave it.
>>>> The thing I like most about my MB is how quiet it is, noisy exhausts are
>>>> for bogans and small children.
>>>
>>> So no ecu reset rather they took it out of sport plus mode so it no
>>> longer pops bangs and crackles. Good grief our resident experts are
>>> covered in eggs.
>>
>> 'Fraid not Gumps.
>> Here. Borrow my spatula.
>>
>> btw Gumps... How come you're joining the mob that's 'attacking' me? Didn't
>> you say that the reason you defend Fraudster is because he's being ganged
>> up on?
>>
> I wasn't attacking you as I stated our resident experts. That doesn't
> include you.

lol!
That'd be a superb back-handed winner if I'd ever claimed to be an expert.
> Doing some basic googling shows that it opens the comfort valves in
> sports + mode allowing the pops etc, however other people complaining of
> the issue state that the ecu has a code set. Maybe your dealer didn't
> clear the codes after the thermostat failure hence it is not working.
>
> Some state the code clears after a couple of days once the issue is
> resolved,

This looks like the winner as it was back to full volume yesterday, which
I'm sure the residents of Speedhump St appreciated.

alvey
Wondering how many people have been killed by 'traffic calming'.

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On 16/2/22 10:27 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 16/02/2022 9:32 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 16/2/22 5:53 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>> This ↑↑↑↑↑ here is a load of fairytale bullshit and yet *another*
>>> example of how utterly clueless these self appointed "experts"
>>> actually know. ECU's do *not* reset themselves on fault code
>>> generation, and going into "limp mode" does *not* cause a loss of
>>> settings requiring a relearn procedure to be carried out. Limp mode
>>> is cleared the moment the fault code is wiped, and often limp mode
>>> only lasts for as long as the ignition is on and is cleared on the
>>> next ignition cycle where it activates again if the fault is still
>>> present.
>>
>> I can "reset" the trans on my Benz, press a button and the accelerator
>> pedal a certain way and it resets the trans shift points back to
>> default but nothing with the engine.
>
> Does it have a separate transmission controller like the Falcons of that
> era?

It has a separate transmission control module.
>
>> Once a fault that caused the engine to go into limp mode is cleared
>> the engine just returns to using the normal ecu map.
>
> As it should do. There is absolutely no reason to "reset" anything.
>
>>> This is an no brainer. The car allegedly had a faulty thermostat. The
>>> "fix" is nothing more complicated than replacing the thermostat,
>>> erasing the code and the car is back in business. There is no ECU
>>> reset required, and no "relearn" procedure needed to be carried out.
>>> Not unless the fuckwits at the dealership performed a reset because
>>> they had no fucking idea about what else to do.
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOrgZDdsGK4
>> The video explains the A35 driving modes, in the first minute he
>> explains how to turn on "loud mode", I suspect that when the dealer
>> cleared the codes it went back to "normal" where any "normal" person
>> would leave it.
>
> Or they just turned it off because it's wank and they're sick to death
> of the things.
>
Could even be illegal in Australia?

>> The thing I like most about my MB is how quiet it is, noisy exhausts
>> are for bogans and small children.
>
> Yep. Alvey qualifies on both those fronts, so it's no wonder that he's
> sooking because his pretentious twatmobile now no longer sounds like a
> Mario Kart.
>
>

To me a MB is all about refinement, why anyone would want one to sound
like a Japanese rice boy car is beyond me.

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On 16/2/22 11:10 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, 16 February 2022 at 22:27:24 UTC+11, Noddy wrote:
>> On 16/02/2022 9:32 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 16/2/22 5:53 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>> This ↑↑↑↑↑ here is a load of fairytale bullshit and yet *another*
>>>> example of how utterly clueless these self appointed "experts"
>>>> actually know. ECU's do *not* reset themselves on fault code
>>>> generation, and going into "limp mode" does *not* cause a loss of
>>>> settings requiring a relearn procedure to be carried out. Limp mode is
>>>> cleared the moment the fault code is wiped, and often limp mode only
>>>> lasts for as long as the ignition is on and is cleared on the next
>>>> ignition cycle where it activates again if the fault is still present.
>>>
>>> I can "reset" the trans on my Benz, press a button and the accelerator
>>> pedal a certain way and it resets the trans shift points back to default
>>> but nothing with the engine.
>> Does it have a separate transmission controller like the Falcons of that
>> era?
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> If its anything like my Jeep, It`s simply a mechanical adjustment.
> (A fairly critical one. Tho I do have a TCU)
>
>>> Once a fault that caused the engine to go into limp mode is cleared the
>>> engine just returns to using the normal ecu map.
>> As it should do. There is absolutely no reason to "reset" anything.
>>>> This is an no brainer. The car allegedly had a faulty thermostat. The
>>>> "fix" is nothing more complicated than replacing the thermostat,
>>>> erasing the code and the car is back in business. There is no ECU
>>>> reset required, and no "relearn" procedure needed to be carried out.
>>>> Not unless the fuckwits at the dealership performed a reset because
>>>> they had no fucking idea about what else to do.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOrgZDdsGK4
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Sport and comfort eh?, Once again, my old Jeep has the same thing....(Ho -Hum)
> All that shit on the screen is just that ....Irrelevant crap!.
> Absolute wankmobile...
> Alvira better watch out, she`ll get watching the screen and crash the fuckin' thing..<FBG>
>
>>> The video explains the A35 driving modes, in the first minute he
>>> explains how to turn on "loud mode", I suspect that when the dealer
>>> cleared the codes it went back to "normal" where any "normal" person
>>> would leave it.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~
> True dat.
> Actually after seeing that review, I get the feeling that alvira dosn`t *have a clue* about the systems operation. <G>

That is a problem with many modern hi tech cars, a lot of people don't
use many of the functions because they either don't know how or didn't
know they existed.
Builder who built my house was here yesterday, his wife has a new MB AMG
GLE 53 , he said that it has so many functions it will take him years to
work them all out:-)
If you don't know how to turn a function on or off you just say "Hi
Mercedes" and ask the car to do it for you.

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On 17/2/22 8:15 am, keithr0 wrote:
> On 17/02/2022 5:58 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 20:25:36 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Not having worked with ECUs I can't really comment, but as a software
>>> developer, clearing all the data along with a fault code would seem
>>> pretty stupid. Even if a software update was applied, there is usually
>>> no reason to clear the data.
>>
>> Tell me keith, what exactly did you do as a "software developer"?
>
> Develop software. Next question.

LOL.

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On 17/2/22 8:19 am, keithr0 wrote:
> On 16/02/2022 8:32 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 16/2/22 5:53 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 16/02/2022 5:00 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 16/02/2022 12:14 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 15/02/2022 4:40 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Forgot to mention, if the beast had been overly warm (thermostat!)
>>>>>> then all the valve and ignition settings would have been backed
>>>>>> right off to *safe settings* depending on the codes they
>>>>>> triggered. Overheating can cause a bit of preignition/detonation
>>>>>> and that will definitely trip relevant codes - and lose your snap,
>>>>>> crackle and pop. The dealer should have cleared any of those codes
>>>>>> however. You could do a *soft reset* on it yourself, not hard to
>>>>>> do on Benz vehicles, then go for a drive so the car can relearn.
>>>
>>> This ↑↑↑↑↑ here is a load of fairytale bullshit and yet *another*
>>> example of how utterly clueless these self appointed "experts"
>>> actually know. ECU's do *not* reset themselves on fault code
>>> generation, and going into "limp mode" does *not* cause a loss of
>>> settings requiring a relearn procedure to be carried out. Limp mode
>>> is cleared the moment the fault code is wiped, and often limp mode
>>> only lasts for as long as the ignition is on and is cleared on the
>>> next ignition cycle where it activates again if the fault is still
>>> present.
>>
>> I can "reset" the trans on my Benz, press a button and the accelerator
>> pedal a certain way and it resets the trans shift points back to
>> default but nothing with the engine.
>> Once a fault that caused the engine to go into limp mode is cleared
>> the engine just returns to using the normal ecu map.
>>>
>>> This is an no brainer. The car allegedly had a faulty thermostat. The
>>> "fix" is nothing more complicated than replacing the thermostat,
>>> erasing the code and the car is back in business. There is no ECU
>>> reset required, and no "relearn" procedure needed to be carried out.
>>> Not unless the fuckwits at the dealership performed a reset because
>>> they had no fucking idea about what else to do.
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOrgZDdsGK4
>> The video explains the A35 driving modes, in the first minute he
>> explains how to turn on "loud mode", I suspect that when the dealer
>> cleared the codes it went back to "normal" where any "normal" person
>> would leave it.
>> The thing I like most about my MB is how quiet it is, noisy exhausts
>> are for bogans and small children.
>>
>>
> "Loud mode"? More like pretentious hoon mode.

Agree, not unusual thought, a friend used to own an Aston Martin V8
Vantage, above 4000rpm vacuum controlled valves in the exhausts would
open and bypass the rear mufflers, if there is a fault with the system
it goes into loud mode.
Only reason I know anything about it is I was asked to have a look at it
when it was in loud mode all the time, it was just a dislodged vacuum
pipe easily fixed.

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On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 08:54:29 +1100, Daryl wrote:

> On 16/2/22 10:27 pm, Noddy wrote:

>>
>> Or they just turned it off because it's wank and they're sick to death
>> of the things.
>>
> Could even be illegal in Australia?

Last time I looked anything that came straight from the manufacturer was
legal. eg Those Horrible Harleys that sound like a mechanical fart at
110db.
>
>
> To me a MB is all about refinement,

So? All this proves is that you are a Very Dull Person and one who chooses
to close their mind to MBs long involvement in motor racing. Why I believe
that they even have an F1 team! And rumour hath it that they've even been
fairly successful.

> why anyone would want one to sound
> like a Japanese rice boy car is beyond me.

Being unable to comprehend a simple video is one of the many things which
are beyond Deryl.

alvey

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On 17/02/2022 8:15 am, keithr0 wrote:
> On 17/02/2022 5:58 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 20:25:36 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Not having worked with ECUs I can't really comment, but as a software
>>> developer, clearing all the data along with a fault code would seem
>>> pretty stupid. Even if a software update was applied, there is usually
>>> no reason to clear the data.
>>
>> Tell me keith, what exactly did you do as a "software developer"?
>
> Develop software. Next question.

ROTFL :)

Hey Alvey, when you've finished picking your arse up off the silver
platter that it was just handed to you on, make sure you give it back to
Keith will you? He'll no doubt need to use it again on the next occasion
that you ask a stupid question :)

Fucking idiot :)

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On 17/02/2022 8:17 am, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> On 17/02/2022 6:42 am, alvey wrote:

>> btw Gumps... How come you're joining the mob that's 'attacking' me?
>> Didn't
>> you say that the reason you defend Fraudster is because he's being ganged
>> up on?
>>
> I wasn't attacking you as I stated our resident experts. That doesn't
> include you.

Certainly not when it comes to anything automotive, which makes him such
a good fit with the FLC :)

Credit where it's due though. He *is* an expert when it comes to whining
like an utter fuckwit about anything in particular....

> Doing some basic googling shows that it opens the comfort valves in
> sports + mode allowing the pops etc, however other people complaining of
> the issue state that the ecu has a code set. Maybe your dealer didn't
> clear the codes after the thermostat failure hence it is not working.

I suspect they turned it off on purpose, just to annoy him. I would
imagine that's the MB dealer Tech's idea of "fun", as they probably (and
quite rightly) think that anyone who has it turned on is a massive flog.

> Some state the code clears after a couple of days once the issue is
> resolved, others have had to have the code cleared or the comfort valves
> serviced (lubricated) as they became stuck.

It's about as wank an idea as owning a WRX and buying a blow off valve
that you set to open at half a pound of boost so it can "FFFFFTTT" as
you're driving around the local shopping centre car park.

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On 17/02/2022 9:01 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 16/2/22 11:10 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:

>>    Actually after seeing that review, I get the feeling that alvira
>> dosn`t *have a clue* about the systems operation. <G>
>
> That is a problem with many modern hi tech cars, a lot of people don't
> use many of the functions because they either don't know how or didn't
> know they existed.

RTFM. I'll bet any money you like all he needs to know is in the book.
Had the moron bothered to do that he would have been able to work out
that the light on his dash was indeed a light and not a switch.

> Builder who built my house was here yesterday, his wife has a new MB AMG
> GLE 53 , he said that it has so many functions it will take him years to
> work them all out:-)
> If you don't know how to turn a function on or off you just say "Hi
> Mercedes" and ask the car to do it for you.

"Hi Mercedes. Drive me to a dealership where I can get rid of this
fucking thing and buy a decent car".

I wonder if that works :)

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On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 09:01:48 +1100, Daryl wrote:

> If you don't know how to turn a function on or off you just say "Hi
> Mercedes" and ask the car to do it for you.

Wrong again Deryl.

There are shedloads of Functions that the voice recognition doesn't do,
especially the ones which you don't know exist, *and* it's a truly
shithouse system. Combine it with the onboard SatNav, aka World's Worst
Satnav Program, and it's positively lethal.

alvey

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On 17/02/2022 8:54 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 16/2/22 10:27 pm, Noddy wrote:

>>> I can "reset" the trans on my Benz, press a button and the
>>> accelerator pedal a certain way and it resets the trans shift points
>>> back to default but nothing with the engine.
>>
>> Does it have a separate transmission controller like the Falcons of
>> that era?
>
> It has a separate transmission control module.

And that's how it should be. Once they started incorporating them all
into the one ECU shit went pear shaped.

>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOrgZDdsGK4
>>> The video explains the A35 driving modes, in the first minute he
>>> explains how to turn on "loud mode", I suspect that when the dealer
>>> cleared the codes it went back to "normal" where any "normal" person
>>> would leave it.
>>
>> Or they just turned it off because it's wank and they're sick to death
>> of the things.
>>
> Could even be illegal in Australia?

It would be if it exceeded the maximum allowable noise level, but I
expect it doesn't as they'd never be able to get the thing complianced
unless the feature was permanently disabled. Unfortunately there is no
law preventing "wanky exhaust note that sounds like something shitting
themselves while wearing a wet suit" or the thing would be off the road
in a heartbeat.

>>> The thing I like most about my MB is how quiet it is, noisy exhausts
>>> are for bogans and small children.
>>
>> Yep. Alvey qualifies on both those fronts, so it's no wonder that he's
>> sooking because his pretentious twatmobile now no longer sounds like a
>> Mario Kart.
>
> To me a MB is all about refinement, why anyone would want one to sound
> like a Japanese rice boy car is beyond me.

Because he's a massive cock tugging flog. I'll bet any money you like he
wears "driving gloves" while he gives the thing a flogging in between
speed humps.

What a knob-end :)

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