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* Photo taken in 1977 (was - Mac drive letters?)David Brooks
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Subject: Re: Photo taken in 1977 (was - Mac drive letters?)
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On Saturday, 23 July 2022 at 00:08:19 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 14:12:55 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 03:08:56 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 02:18:22 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Wednesday, 20 July 2022 at 03:38:59 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 03:08:41 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Wednesday, 20 July 2022 at 02:02:07 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> >> On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 01:53:32 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > He must park to load and off load,
> >> >> >> There should be adequate space for parking for commercial vehicles, or the streets aren't fit for purpose.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Who gives a shit , are you now claiming that rules need to be followed.
> >> >> No, nobody should be restricted from parking anywhere, but the streets should be big enough.
> >> >
> >> > Bit difficult in London.
> >> The council should make roads fit for purpose in the first place.
> >
> > Mile end road where I work was mentioned in the doomsday book I think first mention in 1277
> > And it would be a bit difficult to move tower bridge or make it wider.
> Every so often buildings are knocked down and rebuilt. Don't rebuild them in the same place.

Well london bridge was moved to arizona .

> > Why put buildings so close together? But then your mayor is a Muslim.
> > They were built like that since roman times.
> > They didn;t have many large lorries in shakespeare day well he never wrote about them
> > or having problems parking outside the globe theatre.
> Shakespeare wrote works of fiction, of course they had lorries.

There was a big lorry/car park in dover over the weekend I heard

> >> >> Where I park in the town centre blocks a bus, I find it amusing watching him try not to scratch my car, or more likely his bus.
> >> >> >> > and then there's traffic lights .
> >> >> >> You can't get him into trouble for stopping at lights? WTF?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > No but if he can;t get his vehicle moving because it's overloaded then you can.
> >> >> Just how much weight would it take to stop a vehicle moving? The tyres would burst before that weight.
> >> >
> >> > No idea but when I saw it leave it didnt look right one side was much lower than the other and black smoke came out of the exhaust and it made some strange noises.
> >> Maybe his wife was in the passenger seat.
> >
> > No but he did have a large fat 'retarded' teenager that did all the lifting and he handed him some sweets and he was well happy
> > I often wondered if he was actually paid or just given treats like a well behaved dog.
> Who cares if he's happy?
> >> I used to have a colleague who was so fat she was officially classed as disabled. She walked no more than 1mph. Her hefty BMW X5 or whatever their big 4x4 is tipped to one side when she got in. She would have flattened a Fiat Panda.
> >
> > I't amazing just how large some people can get.
> It's amazing these people reproduce. Why would anyone fuck a fat person?

Maybe they aren't weak like skinny people and there's more to fuck, I guess you've fucked a skeleton or two.

>
> M'colleague got a special chair free under some disability law, he openly said "I'm not disabled, I'm fat, the normal chairs break". It's not a disability if you bring it on yourself.

Maybe most do, but it's between 30-70% is genetic and yuo get it from patents.

> >> >> > So how to you adjust it ? most showers I;ve seen you can adjust the head even remove it so yuo can direct it where you want.
> >> >> No, this is a simple five quid thing. You leave it above your head, like the fixed ones you get in changing rooms.
> >> >
> >> > Do they really have those shit ones in changing rooms.
> >> Dunno, I haven't been in many changing rooms, I can only remember high school and the rugby club near "race the train" in Wales (an off road running race chasing a steam train) where we got the mud off afterwards. It was so pathetic there was only enough water for one shower out of the 10. When they were all turned on, we got a dribble each. People were cupping their hands to collect enough water to do something with.
> >
> > Ah those were the days when knights were bold
> > and toilet paper wasn;t invented ,
> > they;d wipe their arse on blades of grass
> > and walk away contented.
> P.E. classes used to be done naked. In the middle of my high school they actually introduced a rule where the teacher couldn't make you be on the skins side of shirts and skins football because you might be too cold. So he just asked for volunteers. Of course nobody refused as they'd be seen as a girl.

Ideal for peados, seems the catholic church also liked their young boys naked.

> > Where we did our sports was dug up hackney marches and is now part of teh olympic village in stratford.
> I did cross country which was out of the school grounds and along a track and a B road. Probably considered too dangerous nowadays (rolls eyes). My friend won the race. He cheated by getting a lift on the back of the bin lorry since his dad's mate was working on it.
we did that for cross country I got bored and waiting at traffic lights didn't really seem much like cross country, it bored me so I just walked most of the way, only sped up when the PE teachers was about.

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 by: Whisky-dave - Mon, 25 Jul 2022 13:09 UTC

On Saturday, 23 July 2022 at 00:08:28 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > Yes that was the old way of testing gold now they use fancy spectral analyses and can tell exactly what something is made from.
> >> >> >> >> You mean you aren't meant to bite it?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Can do but it's not a good test especially with silver .
> >> >> >> Or if you have gold fillings.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> I've been in a plane three times. Once was a Boeing 737 to Wales to buy a car off my girlfriend's husband, the other two were Cessnas I jumped out of.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > I've been in a Cessna think that what it was on a 10min joy ride around yarmouth.
> >> >> >> >> >> > been on a couple of commercial flights sweden, greece & spain.
> >> >> >> >> >> > Never jumped out of any though,
> >> >> >> >> >> It's a lot more fun than you'd think, you can steer it.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > I'll stick with simulators :-)
> >> >> >> >> Oh come on. I've done it twice. My friend broke her ankle one time, and I got my lines tangled up one time. No big deal.
> >> >> >> > Unless you crash .
> >> >> >> She did, into a rock in the middle of a field. AFTER landing. The chute took off again due to her clumsiness and she went flying backwards. It was funny for me to watch from above.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So who paid for the damage ?
> >> >> What damage? She busted a few cabbages in the field, we didn't tell the farmer.
> >> >
> >> > Guess yuo were lucky to have a field to land in.
> >> They tend to do parachute jumps over flat areas, not heavy traffic on motorways.
> >
> > Isn't that a bit health and softly surely if you land in front of a lorry doing 60 it's you fault
> > for not steering the chut properly.
> I agree. But chutes cost money and most people do it for a laugh once and aren't that good at steering,

So charge them for it, they fuck the chute up they pay for it.

so the number of ripped chutes would be high. Even if you miss the lorry, the chute is often dragged behind you as you land, and tarmac isn't kind to chute fabric.

Where's the problem ?

> However my instructor said I was the only person she'd ever seen to jump out of the plane completely fearless. I also landed right next to her in precisely the correct position. The other guys were 100 yards away at least. She was fucking gorgeous and got drunk on site every night (they slept their in caravans). Unfortunately one of the other guys in my group was a 17 year old cute boy so he got laid and I didn't. She kept pinching his arse when showing us how to to do the correct jumping position in practice.
> >> >> > Well it was the way people ID'd me in the club a nickname but when they got a bar friends said hi whisky dave I said yeah cheers but no ice thanks. They sort of stopped using that name in pubs and clubs and reverted to just dave.
> >> >> There must have been a reason for that name.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, I was in a club and my flatmates friends who was a stripper came and sat on my lap chatting to me
> >> > she said she knew loads of daves there's smelly dave, DJ dave, arsehole dave and she mentioned a few other daves,
> >> > I just took a swig from my bottle of whisky and she said I'll call you whisky dave and that sort of stuck as her friends started calling me whisky dave, and I used that when I started my on-line club blog around 1996.
> >> ROTFPMSL!
> >>
> >> So you're not the drunk I thought you were?
> >
> > thought is a dangeous thing .
> > One thing I always stae to peoloe that try to get me into a drinking compition is that
> > I regard drinking as an art NOT a sport I don't do sport.
> > An amateur piss artist perhaps.
> I just do it to make me feel happy and to INCREASE my concentration. Ethanol, like glucose, is a fuel.

flies use shit for fuel, I tried a bit of meths once it was horrible nearly as bad as green chartreuse

> >> >> >> >> >> >> > almost double my euro millions £2.40 win.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> You can actually win as little as £2.40?
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Yeah won £30 a couple of times over the years.
> >> >> >> >> >> And how much did you spend on tickets to achieve that?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > No idea but IO don;t buy coffees from shops as some do everyday on their way to work,
> >> >> >> >> > so I guess I spend up to about £50 a month via online tickets.
> >> >> >> >> > Depends how I feel and how much I've spent, so don;t really miss the money.
> >> >> >> >> What a waste.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I won £65 on the 17th july, my highest ever :-)
> >> >> >> > Be nice to win a few million then I can buy my own brewery
> >> >> >> The chances of that are 1 in a few million. So er.... buy a few million tickets and oh wait.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > People have won large amounts I don;t expect to but then again I don;t expect to be hit by lightning either,
> >> >> Exactly, no point in trying to do what will never happen.
> >> >
> >> > It happens to some.
> >> Very few.
> >
> > I'm less than a few people
> But chances are it'll be one of the other several million.

Only for the jackpot , a friend won just under £1k once, I won another £4.40 on friday.


> I wish I had a time machine or could see a few days into the future. First thing I'd do is win several lotteries. Or maybe mix things up a little bit to avoid detection, bit of stocks and shares too, horse racing, etc.

For me that'sproof that time travel can't be done.

>
> > https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/woman-lottery-win-first-ticket-18th-birthday-teenager-canada-charlie-lagarde-quebec-a8277391.html
>
> Why does the big cheque she's holding say $1K when she won a million?

a 1000$, thousand (par semani $)

It's foreign

>
> Why wait till you're 18? My friends were buying them at 14. And cigarettes. I never saw the point in tobacco, marijuana is much better.
Maybe because you need someone to buy them for you I won a £5 on the horses when I was about £ my gran put 50p on the4 national lottery for me.

> >> >> > 360 people became millionaires via the lottery in 2021.
> >> >> Out of 65 million.
> >> >
> >> > Not sure where you get that from ,67 million in the UK
> >> Yip, I was close.
> >
> > But this july someone won £184 million just think if he hadn;t bought a ticket.
> > He had the choice to buy a cup of coffee or a beer instead.
> > That's how I see things.
> > I wouldn't advise anyone to spend there last few quid on a ticket
> You're an idiot. So one person wind, but millions throw away money.

Millions piss money up the wall every week.
Millions subscribe to netflix, disney, + otheres. to watch more crap TV , millions vote for strictly
Millions pay a fortune to go to a football match and watch their team win lose or draw
when they could be watching it on TV.

> >> > and loads of them are kids not old enough to buy tickets, and like you not everyone buys tickets.
> >> Kids get tickets.
> >> >> > I think there's more chance of me winning a million than you dating Miley Cyrus but nothing wrong with having a fantasy is there.
> >> >> I don't buy Miley Cyrus tickets on the off chance she'll fuck me.
> >> >
> >> > Do you go to the sorts of places she goes, well I go to clubs where I meet girls of my preference(s) , that's where I've met most of my girlfriends, and friends for that matter.
> >> No I can't stand clubs, I prefer going out out, to scenery. Ever had sex in a waterfall?
> >
> > No, I'd hate to have to lay in the wet patch ;-)
> But the girl looks way sexier with rock hard nipples.

I quite like them dressed in PVC or latex , not so keen on leather.
Perhaps I should have gone to TG's last friday .

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On Saturday, 23 July 2022 at 01:17:53 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 15:54:31 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 03:08:56 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >
> > regarding qhat we teach just got this email. in our dept.
> >
> > Congratulations to xxxxxxx for passing his PhD viva with a dissertation in which he revisited traditional assumptions about polysemy at the light of recent developments in cognitive science and the development of context-sensitive language models:
> > Word Sense Distance and Similarity Patterns in Regular Polysemy.
> >
> > simple innnit
> >
> > but dont; ask me I haven't a clue what this has to do with computer science or electronic engineering
> >
> >
> > Hopefully the next one Phd pass will make more sense
> Something to do with computers understanding English better?
Yes mosty likely, but not the area I work it which is mostly teaching hardware to undergrads.

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On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 13:27:17 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 22:32:02 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 13:39:20 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Thursday, 21 July 2022 at 03:00:35 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 01:25:52 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Wednesday, 20 July 2022 at 03:12:39 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 02:52:19 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail..com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > people have died from electric shocks.
>> >> >> Not often. Weeds out the weak from the gene pool anyway.
>> >> >
>> >> > Most of the weak have already bred.
>> >> And some have not.
>> >
>> > So shows it doesn;t work like that.
>> It's semi effective. The weakest don't make it to breeding age. It's how we've evolved to be what we are and not still be amoebas.
>
> But those people with the hoighest population growth such as the africain countries aren;t the stongest.
> The strongest tend to have less offspring not the most.

No, the most intelligent have less offspring. If you look at less intelligent people (eg. a council estate), people match up by fitness and good looks.

>> >> > It comes down to resistance and where your heart happens to be in in cycle and if yuo can let go .
>> >> It also comes down to your heart being able to restart itself using one of the several mechanisms healthy people have.
>> > If that were true then healthy people would be immortal
>> We are to electric shock.
>
> You could always do a yuotube video to prove it.

Just look up some stats somewhere. I've had 240V through me many times, it just made me jump. My father (78) got one and said it was annoying. MY neighbour tradesman has had quite a few and the only one that harmed him was when he leapt off a ladder nad sprained his back.

>> >> >> >> And I've yet to see 230V. I get 246V to my house. 230V is just some bullshit from the EU.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > around 241V at work, I've seen it as low as 235.
>> >> >> Has anyone ever seen 230 or less? I asked for mine to be reduced as sometime it's over the 10% or whatever it is allowed, but they said if they adjusted the transformer tap, the other end of the street would be far too low, so I guess someone gets low voltage. I guess I should be happy with high voltage, it means I can draw more power through the same cable. Maybe this is why Merkins have a transformer pole per house, sounds an expensive method though.
>> >> >
>> >> > No idea and of course it depends on how it's being measured and what with.
>> >> Voltage can be measured very accurately with any multimeter.
>> >
>> > No it can;t I''ve tried it with various meters and you could get up to 3V differnce between a cheap plug-in power meter and our True RMS meters.
>> > We bought True RMS meters because normal meters aren't true RMS and can give strange reading that don't come out right when you compare calculations with practice.
>> I've never found an inaccurate meter. I have a true RMS meter, a £100 multimeter from 1990, a £5 multimeter from a few years ago, and a couple of plug in power meters. Very accurate on voltage and they all agree.
>
> I'll have to check we have a multimeter cost £400 and soon to arrive about 200 £1.99 ones to give to students.
> I've got 3 plugins to try but one of them was well out when measuring power.

I've never bought one under about a tenner because I wanted more ranges or something. The cheapest I have is "Digitek" (no model on it) from China. No current, only volts and ohms and continuity.

>> >> Current with my clamp meter seems to be unreliable though, even though the cheap thing I got to sense the current coming in to the house is spot on.
>> Ignore the above, the clamp meter is spot on. I was only irritated by it a few weeks ago, I think something was wrong with the circuit and more current was flowing back through the return than should have been.
>
> I guess it depends what you mean by spot on and the usage.

It's as accurate as the display. 0-600A at 0.1A intervals.

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On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 13:44:58 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, 23 July 2022 at 00:08:19 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 14:12:55 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 03:08:56 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 02:18:22 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Wednesday, 20 July 2022 at 03:38:59 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 03:08:41 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Wednesday, 20 July 2022 at 02:02:07 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 01:53:32 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > He must park to load and off load,
>> >> >> >> There should be adequate space for parking for commercial vehicles, or the streets aren't fit for purpose.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Who gives a shit , are you now claiming that rules need to be followed.
>> >> >> No, nobody should be restricted from parking anywhere, but the streets should be big enough.
>> >> >
>> >> > Bit difficult in London.
>> >> The council should make roads fit for purpose in the first place.
>> >
>> > Mile end road where I work was mentioned in the doomsday book I think first mention in 1277
>> > And it would be a bit difficult to move tower bridge or make it wider.
>> Every so often buildings are knocked down and rebuilt. Don't rebuild them in the same place.
>
> Well london bridge was moved to arizona .
>
>> > Why put buildings so close together? But then your mayor is a Muslim.
>> > They were built like that since roman times.
>> > They didn;t have many large lorries in shakespeare day well he never wrote about them
>> > or having problems parking outside the globe theatre.
>> Shakespeare wrote works of fiction, of course they had lorries.
>
> There was a big lorry/car park in dover over the weekend I heard

The French pissing around with passport control again?

>> >> >> Where I park in the town centre blocks a bus, I find it amusing watching him try not to scratch my car, or more likely his bus.
>> >> >> >> > and then there's traffic lights .
>> >> >> >> You can't get him into trouble for stopping at lights? WTF?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > No but if he can;t get his vehicle moving because it's overloaded then you can.
>> >> >> Just how much weight would it take to stop a vehicle moving? The tyres would burst before that weight.
>> >> >
>> >> > No idea but when I saw it leave it didnt look right one side was much lower than the other and black smoke came out of the exhaust and it made some strange noises.
>> >> Maybe his wife was in the passenger seat.
>> >
>> > No but he did have a large fat 'retarded' teenager that did all the lifting and he handed him some sweets and he was well happy
>> > I often wondered if he was actually paid or just given treats like a well behaved dog.
>> Who cares if he's happy?
>> >> I used to have a colleague who was so fat she was officially classed as disabled. She walked no more than 1mph. Her hefty BMW X5 or whatever their big 4x4 is tipped to one side when she got in. She would have flattened a Fiat Panda.
>> >
>> > I't amazing just how large some people can get.
>> It's amazing these people reproduce. Why would anyone fuck a fat person?
>
> Maybe they aren't weak like skinny people and there's more to fuck, I guess you've fucked a skeleton or two.

How do you find the hole when it's surrounded by flab? Billy Connelly on how fat people have sex: https://youtu.be/LHWims1hO_w?t=62

>> M'colleague got a special chair free under some disability law, he openly said "I'm not disabled, I'm fat, the normal chairs break". It's not a disability if you bring it on yourself.
>
> Maybe most do, but it's between 30-70% is genetic and yuo get it from patents.

I didn't know fat was patented :-)

Well fat people shouldn't have kids, what do they think they're going to produce?

>> >> >> > So how to you adjust it ? most showers I;ve seen you can adjust the head even remove it so yuo can direct it where you want.
>> >> >> No, this is a simple five quid thing. You leave it above your head, like the fixed ones you get in changing rooms.
>> >> >
>> >> > Do they really have those shit ones in changing rooms.
>> >> Dunno, I haven't been in many changing rooms, I can only remember high school and the rugby club near "race the train" in Wales (an off road running race chasing a steam train) where we got the mud off afterwards. It was so pathetic there was only enough water for one shower out of the 10. When they were all turned on, we got a dribble each. People were cupping their hands to collect enough water to do something with.
>> >
>> > Ah those were the days when knights were bold
>> > and toilet paper wasn;t invented ,
>> > they;d wipe their arse on blades of grass
>> > and walk away contented.
>> P.E. classes used to be done naked. In the middle of my high school they actually introduced a rule where the teacher couldn't make you be on the skins side of shirts and skins football because you might be too cold. So he just asked for volunteers. Of course nobody refused as they'd be seen as a girl.
>
> Ideal for peados, seems the catholic church also liked their young boys naked.

Nudism and sex are not the same thing.

>> > Where we did our sports was dug up hackney marches and is now part of teh olympic village in stratford.
>> I did cross country which was out of the school grounds and along a track and a B road. Probably considered too dangerous nowadays (rolls eyes). My friend won the race. He cheated by getting a lift on the back of the bin lorry since his dad's mate was working on it.
> we did that for cross country I got bored and waiting at traffic lights didn't really seem much like cross country, it bored me so I just walked most of the way, only sped up when the PE teachers was about.

Me and a friend took a shortcut through a graveyard and cut 2 miles off the route. We just slowed down so we were last then hopped over the wall when the rest couldn't see us. There were a few questions from others on how we were suddenly ahead of them.

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Subject: Re: Photo taken in 1977 (was - Mac drive letters?)
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On Monday, 25 July 2022 at 21:05:33 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 13:27:17 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 22:32:02 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 13:39:20 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Thursday, 21 July 2022 at 03:00:35 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 01:25:52 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Wednesday, 20 July 2022 at 03:12:39 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> >> On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 02:52:19 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > people have died from electric shocks.
> >> >> >> Not often. Weeds out the weak from the gene pool anyway.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Most of the weak have already bred.
> >> >> And some have not.
> >> >
> >> > So shows it doesn;t work like that.
> >> It's semi effective. The weakest don't make it to breeding age. It's how we've evolved to be what we are and not still be amoebas.
> >
> > But those people with the hoighest population growth such as the africain countries aren;t the stongest.
> > The strongest tend to have less offspring not the most.
> No, the most intelligent have less offspring. If you look at less intelligent people (eg. a council estate), people match up by fitness and good looks.

I agree but you were talking of the weakest not inteligence there isn't much of a link between inteligence and weakness.
People usually match up by simmilarities goven a preference

> >> >> > It comes down to resistance and where your heart happens to be in in cycle and if yuo can let go .
> >> >> It also comes down to your heart being able to restart itself using one of the several mechanisms healthy people have.
> >> > If that were true then healthy people would be immortal
> >> We are to electric shock.
> >
> > You could always do a yuotube video to prove it.
> Just look up some stats somewhere. I've had 240V through me many times, it just made me jump.

You don;t know what went through you it's the current that kills, voltage doesn't travel through you.
It's also varing every cycle from 0 to 340V.

My father (78) got one and said it was annoying. MY neighbour tradesman has had quite a few and the only one that harmed him was when he leapt off a ladder nad sprained his back.

Some people survived through WWI & WWII .
Some die as kids die as a result of guns in fact more children die in the USA via guns than even car accidents.
I've never been injured in a car accident.

I've never had a sporting injury .
Only week people get injuried .

> >> >> >> >> And I've yet to see 230V. I get 246V to my house. 230V is just some bullshit from the EU.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > around 241V at work, I've seen it as low as 235.
> >> >> >> Has anyone ever seen 230 or less? I asked for mine to be reduced as sometime it's over the 10% or whatever it is allowed, but they said if they adjusted the transformer tap, the other end of the street would be far too low, so I guess someone gets low voltage. I guess I should be happy with high voltage, it means I can draw more power through the same cable. Maybe this is why Merkins have a transformer pole per house, sounds an expensive method though.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > No idea and of course it depends on how it's being measured and what with.
> >> >> Voltage can be measured very accurately with any multimeter.
> >> >
> >> > No it can;t I''ve tried it with various meters and you could get up to 3V differnce between a cheap plug-in power meter and our True RMS meters..
> >> > We bought True RMS meters because normal meters aren't true RMS and can give strange reading that don't come out right when you compare calculations with practice.
> >> I've never found an inaccurate meter. I have a true RMS meter, a £100 multimeter from 1990, a £5 multimeter from a few years ago, and a couple of plug in power meters. Very accurate on voltage and they all agree.
> >
> > I'll have to check we have a multimeter cost £400 and soon to arrive about 200 £1.99 ones to give to students.
> > I've got 3 plugins to try but one of them was well out when measuring power.
> I've never bought one under about a tenner because I wanted more ranges or something. The cheapest I have is "Digitek" (no model on it) from China. No current, only volts and ohms and continuity.

We splashed out more than I thought as we wanted contininty too
https://onecall.farnell.com/duratool/d03047/multimeter-digital/dp/3498310?st=d03047
think we got a better price under £2.75

> >> >> Current with my clamp meter seems to be unreliable though, even though the cheap thing I got to sense the current coming in to the house is spot on.
> >> Ignore the above, the clamp meter is spot on. I was only irritated by it a few weeks ago, I think something was wrong with the circuit and more current was flowing back through the return than should have been.
> >
> > I guess it depends what you mean by spot on and the usage.
> It's as accurate as the display. 0-600A at 0.1A intervals.

so +- 100mA well our True RMS are 0.5mA at 0.7% with 5 digits resolution
and we aren't limited to 50Hz sine I think it goes to 4KHz.

We had a research student that wanted a resoluition of 1pA had to send him away to find one
himself.

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On Monday, 25 July 2022 at 22:41:10 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 13:44:58 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, 23 July 2022 at 00:08:19 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 14:12:55 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 03:08:56 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 02:18:22 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Wednesday, 20 July 2022 at 03:38:59 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> >> On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 03:08:41 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, 20 July 2022 at 02:02:07 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 01:53:32 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > He must park to load and off load,
> >> >> >> >> There should be adequate space for parking for commercial vehicles, or the streets aren't fit for purpose.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Who gives a shit , are you now claiming that rules need to be followed.
> >> >> >> No, nobody should be restricted from parking anywhere, but the streets should be big enough.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Bit difficult in London.
> >> >> The council should make roads fit for purpose in the first place.
> >> >
> >> > Mile end road where I work was mentioned in the doomsday book I think first mention in 1277
> >> > And it would be a bit difficult to move tower bridge or make it wider.
> >> Every so often buildings are knocked down and rebuilt. Don't rebuild them in the same place.
> >
> > Well london bridge was moved to arizona .
> >
> >> > Why put buildings so close together? But then your mayor is a Muslim..
> >> > They were built like that since roman times.
> >> > They didn;t have many large lorries in shakespeare day well he never wrote about them
> >> > or having problems parking outside the globe theatre.
> >> Shakespeare wrote works of fiction, of course they had lorries.
> >
> > There was a big lorry/car park in dover over the weekend I heard
> The French pissing around with passport control again?

Yeah 2 french GFs and one french flatmate I know all about the boody French ;-)

> >> >> >> Where I park in the town centre blocks a bus, I find it amusing watching him try not to scratch my car, or more likely his bus.
> >> >> >> >> > and then there's traffic lights .
> >> >> >> >> You can't get him into trouble for stopping at lights? WTF?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > No but if he can;t get his vehicle moving because it's overloaded then you can.
> >> >> >> Just how much weight would it take to stop a vehicle moving? The tyres would burst before that weight.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > No idea but when I saw it leave it didnt look right one side was much lower than the other and black smoke came out of the exhaust and it made some strange noises.
> >> >> Maybe his wife was in the passenger seat.
> >> >
> >> > No but he did have a large fat 'retarded' teenager that did all the lifting and he handed him some sweets and he was well happy
> >> > I often wondered if he was actually paid or just given treats like a well behaved dog.
> >> Who cares if he's happy?
> >> >> I used to have a colleague who was so fat she was officially classed as disabled. She walked no more than 1mph. Her hefty BMW X5 or whatever their big 4x4 is tipped to one side when she got in. She would have flattened a Fiat Panda.
> >> >
> >> > I't amazing just how large some people can get.
> >> It's amazing these people reproduce. Why would anyone fuck a fat person?
> >
> > Maybe they aren't weak like skinny people and there's more to fuck, I guess you've fucked a skeleton or two.
> How do you find the hole when it's surrounded by flab?

Lots seem to manage

> Billy Connelly on how fat people have sex: https://youtu.be/LHWims1hO_w?t=62

Is he weak or strong difficult to tell.

> >> M'colleague got a special chair free under some disability law, he openly said "I'm not disabled, I'm fat, the normal chairs break". It's not a disability if you bring it on yourself.
> >
> > Maybe most do, but it's between 30-70% is genetic and yuo get it from patents.
> I didn't know fat was patented :-)

Bring in the lard tax :-)

>
> Well fat people shouldn't have kids, what do they think they're going to produce?

Fat people seem to do well in wieght lifting and sumo wrestling.

> >> >> >> > So how to you adjust it ? most showers I;ve seen you can adjust the head even remove it so yuo can direct it where you want.
> >> >> >> No, this is a simple five quid thing. You leave it above your head, like the fixed ones you get in changing rooms.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Do they really have those shit ones in changing rooms.
> >> >> Dunno, I haven't been in many changing rooms, I can only remember high school and the rugby club near "race the train" in Wales (an off road running race chasing a steam train) where we got the mud off afterwards. It was so pathetic there was only enough water for one shower out of the 10. When they were all turned on, we got a dribble each. People were cupping their hands to collect enough water to do something with.
> >> >
> >> > Ah those were the days when knights were bold
> >> > and toilet paper wasn;t invented ,
> >> > they;d wipe their arse on blades of grass
> >> > and walk away contented.
> >> P.E. classes used to be done naked. In the middle of my high school they actually introduced a rule where the teacher couldn't make you be on the skins side of shirts and skins football because you might be too cold. So he just asked for volunteers. Of course nobody refused as they'd be seen as a girl.
> >
> > Ideal for peados, seems the catholic church also liked their young boys naked.
> Nudism and sex are not the same thing.

Neither is having sex and reproduction.

> >> > Where we did our sports was dug up hackney marches and is now part of teh olympic village in stratford.
> >> I did cross country which was out of the school grounds and along a track and a B road. Probably considered too dangerous nowadays (rolls eyes). My friend won the race. He cheated by getting a lift on the back of the bin lorry since his dad's mate was working on it.
> > we did that for cross country I got bored and waiting at traffic lights didn't really seem much like cross country, it bored me so I just walked most of the way, only sped up when the PE teachers was about.
> Me and a friend took a shortcut through a graveyard and cut 2 miles off the route. We just slowed down so we were last then hopped over the wall when the rest couldn't see us. There were a few questions from others on how we were suddenly ahead of them.
I always held way back and made sure I looked knacked the top 20 got singled out to join the cross country inter-school club evens and did extra training.

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On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 14:09:41 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, 23 July 2022 at 00:08:28 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> > Yes that was the old way of testing gold now they use fancy spectral analyses and can tell exactly what something is made from.
>> >> >> >> >> You mean you aren't meant to bite it?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Can do but it's not a good test especially with silver .
>> >> >> >> Or if you have gold fillings.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I've been in a plane three times. Once was a Boeing 737 to Wales to buy a car off my girlfriend's husband, the other two were Cessnas I jumped out of.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > I've been in a Cessna think that what it was on a 10min joy ride around yarmouth.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > been on a couple of commercial flights sweden, greece & spain.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Never jumped out of any though,
>> >> >> >> >> >> It's a lot more fun than you'd think, you can steer it..
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > I'll stick with simulators :-)
>> >> >> >> >> Oh come on. I've done it twice. My friend broke her ankle one time, and I got my lines tangled up one time. No big deal.
>> >> >> >> > Unless you crash .
>> >> >> >> She did, into a rock in the middle of a field. AFTER landing.. The chute took off again due to her clumsiness and she went flying backwards. It was funny for me to watch from above.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So who paid for the damage ?
>> >> >> What damage? She busted a few cabbages in the field, we didn't tell the farmer.
>> >> >
>> >> > Guess yuo were lucky to have a field to land in.
>> >> They tend to do parachute jumps over flat areas, not heavy traffic on motorways.
>> >
>> > Isn't that a bit health and softly surely if you land in front of a lorry doing 60 it's you fault
>> > for not steering the chut properly.
>> I agree. But chutes cost money and most people do it for a laugh once and aren't that good at steering,
>
> So charge them for it, they fuck the chute up they pay for it.

Agreed.

> so the number of ripped chutes would be high. Even if you miss the lorry, the chute is often dragged behind you as you land, and tarmac isn't kind to chute fabric.
>
> Where's the problem ?

There isn't actually, as you said, simply charge a deposit at the start which you get back if your chute is still usable.

>> However my instructor said I was the only person she'd ever seen to jump out of the plane completely fearless. I also landed right next to her in precisely the correct position. The other guys were 100 yards away at least. She was fucking gorgeous and got drunk on site every night (they slept their in caravans). Unfortunately one of the other guys in my group was a 17 year old cute boy so he got laid and I didn't. She kept pinching his arse when showing us how to to do the correct jumping position in practice.
>> >> >> > Well it was the way people ID'd me in the club a nickname but when they got a bar friends said hi whisky dave I said yeah cheers but no ice thanks. They sort of stopped using that name in pubs and clubs and reverted to just dave.
>> >> >> There must have been a reason for that name.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, I was in a club and my flatmates friends who was a stripper came and sat on my lap chatting to me
>> >> > she said she knew loads of daves there's smelly dave, DJ dave, arsehole dave and she mentioned a few other daves,
>> >> > I just took a swig from my bottle of whisky and she said I'll call you whisky dave and that sort of stuck as her friends started calling me whisky dave, and I used that when I started my on-line club blog around 1996.
>> >> ROTFPMSL!
>> >>
>> >> So you're not the drunk I thought you were?
>> >
>> > thought is a dangeous thing .
>> > One thing I always stae to peoloe that try to get me into a drinking compition is that
>> > I regard drinking as an art NOT a sport I don't do sport.
>> > An amateur piss artist perhaps.
>> I just do it to make me feel happy and to INCREASE my concentration. Ethanol, like glucose, is a fuel.
>
> flies use shit for fuel,

Alcohol tastes better than shit. Although a colleague once asked if I was drinking piss at lunchtime, I said "no it's applejuice", it was actually cider. Alcohol at work probably wasn't allowed!

> I tried a bit of meths once it was horrible nearly as bad as green chartreuse

Can you still see?

>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > almost double my euro millions £2.40 win.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> You can actually win as little as £2.40?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Yeah won £30 a couple of times over the years.
>> >> >> >> >> >> And how much did you spend on tickets to achieve that?
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > No idea but IO don;t buy coffees from shops as some do everyday on their way to work,
>> >> >> >> >> > so I guess I spend up to about £50 a month via online tickets.
>> >> >> >> >> > Depends how I feel and how much I've spent, so don;t really miss the money.
>> >> >> >> >> What a waste.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I won £65 on the 17th july, my highest ever :-)
>> >> >> >> > Be nice to win a few million then I can buy my own brewery
>> >> >> >> The chances of that are 1 in a few million. So er.... buy a few million tickets and oh wait.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > People have won large amounts I don;t expect to but then again I don;t expect to be hit by lightning either,
>> >> >> Exactly, no point in trying to do what will never happen.
>> >> >
>> >> > It happens to some.
>> >> Very few.
>> >
>> > I'm less than a few people
>> But chances are it'll be one of the other several million.
>
> Only for the jackpot , a friend won just under £1k once, I won another £4.40 on friday.

Obviously most people lose money, since there's the profits of the company and the "charities" they donate to.

>> I wish I had a time machine or could see a few days into the future. First thing I'd do is win several lotteries. Or maybe mix things up a little bit to avoid detection, bit of stocks and shares too, horse racing, etc.
>
> For me that's proof that time travel can't be done.

No it isn't. Probably just not invented yet. Why travel back all the way to now when the lottery winnings are smaller?

>> > https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/woman-lottery-win-first-ticket-18th-birthday-teenager-canada-charlie-lagarde-quebec-a8277391.html
>>
>> Why does the big cheque she's holding say $1K when she won a million?
>
> a 1000$, thousand (par semani $)
>
> It's foreign

So did she win a million US dollars or a million of her own worthless currency?

>> Why wait till you're 18? My friends were buying them at 14. And cigarettes. I never saw the point in tobacco, marijuana is much better.
> Maybe because you need someone to buy them for you I won a £5 on the horses when I was about £ my gran put 50p on the4 national lottery for me.

When I was 13, my friend smoked heavily (also 13). We walked to the local shop before school and he just walked in and bought them, no questions asked.

When I was 18 I bought tonnes of alcohol for my friend (16)'s little brother (14). He got pissed, made a council house girl pregnant, then left the country.

>> >> >> > 360 people became millionaires via the lottery in 2021.
>> >> >> Out of 65 million.
>> >> >
>> >> > Not sure where you get that from ,67 million in the UK
>> >> Yip, I was close.
>> >
>> > But this july someone won £184 million just think if he hadn;t bought a ticket.
>> > He had the choice to buy a cup of coffee or a beer instead.
>> > That's how I see things.
>> > I wouldn't advise anyone to spend there last few quid on a ticket
>> You're an idiot. So one person wind, but millions throw away money.
>
> Millions piss money up the wall every week.
> Millions subscribe to netflix, disney, + otheres. to watch more crap TV , millions vote for strictly
> Millions pay a fortune to go to a football match and watch their team win lose or draw
> when they could be watching it on TV.


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On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 13:31:18 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, 25 July 2022 at 21:05:33 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 13:27:17 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 22:32:02 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 13:39:20 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Thursday, 21 July 2022 at 03:00:35 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 01:25:52 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail..com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Wednesday, 20 July 2022 at 03:12:39 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 02:52:19 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > people have died from electric shocks.
>> >> >> >> Not often. Weeds out the weak from the gene pool anyway.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Most of the weak have already bred.
>> >> >> And some have not.
>> >> >
>> >> > So shows it doesn;t work like that.
>> >> It's semi effective. The weakest don't make it to breeding age. It's how we've evolved to be what we are and not still be amoebas.
>> >
>> > But those people with the hoighest population growth such as the africain countries aren;t the stongest.
>> > The strongest tend to have less offspring not the most.
>> No, the most intelligent have less offspring. If you look at less intelligent people (eg. a council estate), people match up by fitness and good looks.
>
> I agree but you were talking of the weakest not inteligence there isn't much of a link between inteligence and weakness.
> People usually match up by simmilarities goven a preference

You said the strongest have less offspring, that is incorrect. Poor people are fitter, rich people are cleverer.

>> >> >> > It comes down to resistance and where your heart happens to be in in cycle and if yuo can let go .
>> >> >> It also comes down to your heart being able to restart itself using one of the several mechanisms healthy people have.
>> >> > If that were true then healthy people would be immortal
>> >> We are to electric shock.
>> >
>> > You could always do a yuotube video to prove it.
>> Just look up some stats somewhere. I've had 240V through me many times, it just made me jump.
>
> You don;t know what went through you it's the current that kills,

Yeah.... that's why touching my 300 amp car battery kills me more than a 13A socket.

> voltage doesn't travel through you.
> It's also varing every cycle from 0 to 340V.

Most people don't touch something briefly enough for that to matter.

> My father (78) got one and said it was annoying. MY neighbour tradesman has had quite a few and the only one that harmed him was when he leapt off a ladder nad sprained his back.
>
> Some people survived through WWI & WWII .

Only some. But most survive shocks.

> Some die as kids die as a result of guns in fact more children die in the USA via guns than even car accidents.

I've changed my mind on tat, it would be fun to own a gun.

> I've never been injured in a car accident.

Neither have I.

> I've never had a sporting injury .

It annoys me when people call a sprain an injury. An injury is something colliding with you.

> Only week people get injuried .

What about month people?

>> >> >> >> >> And I've yet to see 230V. I get 246V to my house. 230V is just some bullshit from the EU.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > around 241V at work, I've seen it as low as 235.
>> >> >> >> Has anyone ever seen 230 or less? I asked for mine to be reduced as sometime it's over the 10% or whatever it is allowed, but they said if they adjusted the transformer tap, the other end of the street would be far too low, so I guess someone gets low voltage. I guess I should be happy with high voltage, it means I can draw more power through the same cable. Maybe this is why Merkins have a transformer pole per house, sounds an expensive method though.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > No idea and of course it depends on how it's being measured and what with.
>> >> >> Voltage can be measured very accurately with any multimeter.
>> >> >
>> >> > No it can;t I''ve tried it with various meters and you could get up to 3V differnce between a cheap plug-in power meter and our True RMS meters.
>> >> > We bought True RMS meters because normal meters aren't true RMS and can give strange reading that don't come out right when you compare calculations with practice.
>> >> I've never found an inaccurate meter. I have a true RMS meter, a £100 multimeter from 1990, a £5 multimeter from a few years ago, and a couple of plug in power meters. Very accurate on voltage and they all agree.
>> >
>> > I'll have to check we have a multimeter cost £400 and soon to arrive about 200 £1.99 ones to give to students.
>> > I've got 3 plugins to try but one of them was well out when measuring power.
>> I've never bought one under about a tenner because I wanted more ranges or something. The cheapest I have is "Digitek" (no model on it) from China. No current, only volts and ohms and continuity.
>
> We splashed out more than I thought as we wanted contininty too
> https://onecall.farnell.com/duratool/d03047/multimeter-digital/dp/3498310?st=d03047
> think we got a better price under £2.75

That's a fucking good meter. They've probably improved since I bought mine 10 years ago. That one even tests transistors, I had to spend £100 to get one that did that back in the mid 90s. Still got it. Micronta from Tandy, rebadged something, I forget what.

>> >> >> Current with my clamp meter seems to be unreliable though, even though the cheap thing I got to sense the current coming in to the house is spot on.
>> >> Ignore the above, the clamp meter is spot on. I was only irritated by it a few weeks ago, I think something was wrong with the circuit and more current was flowing back through the return than should have been.
>> >
>> > I guess it depends what you mean by spot on and the usage.
>> It's as accurate as the display. 0-600A at 0.1A intervals.
>
> so +- 100mA well our True RMS are 0.5mA at 0.7% with 5 digits resolution
> and we aren't limited to 50Hz sine I think it goes to 4KHz.

But do they clamp?

> We had a research student that wanted a resoluition of 1pA had to send him away to find one
> himself.

Give him a gold leaf electroscope.

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On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 13:42:20 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, 25 July 2022 at 22:41:10 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 13:44:58 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Saturday, 23 July 2022 at 00:08:19 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 14:12:55 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 03:08:56 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 02:18:22 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Wednesday, 20 July 2022 at 03:38:59 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 03:08:41 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, 20 July 2022 at 02:02:07 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 01:53:32 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > He must park to load and off load,
>> >> >> >> >> There should be adequate space for parking for commercial vehicles, or the streets aren't fit for purpose.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Who gives a shit , are you now claiming that rules need to be followed.
>> >> >> >> No, nobody should be restricted from parking anywhere, but the streets should be big enough.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Bit difficult in London.
>> >> >> The council should make roads fit for purpose in the first place.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mile end road where I work was mentioned in the doomsday book I think first mention in 1277
>> >> > And it would be a bit difficult to move tower bridge or make it wider.
>> >> Every so often buildings are knocked down and rebuilt. Don't rebuild them in the same place.
>> >
>> > Well london bridge was moved to arizona .
>> >
>> >> > Why put buildings so close together? But then your mayor is a Muslim.
>> >> > They were built like that since roman times.
>> >> > They didn;t have many large lorries in shakespeare day well he never wrote about them
>> >> > or having problems parking outside the globe theatre.
>> >> Shakespeare wrote works of fiction, of course they had lorries.
>> >
>> > There was a big lorry/car park in dover over the weekend I heard
>> The French pissing around with passport control again?
>
> Yeah 2 french GFs and one french flatmate I know all about the boody French ;-)

How many bloody GFs have you had?!

And why did you go out with them if they were annoying?

>> >> >> >> Where I park in the town centre blocks a bus, I find it amusing watching him try not to scratch my car, or more likely his bus.
>> >> >> >> >> > and then there's traffic lights .
>> >> >> >> >> You can't get him into trouble for stopping at lights? WTF?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > No but if he can;t get his vehicle moving because it's overloaded then you can.
>> >> >> >> Just how much weight would it take to stop a vehicle moving? The tyres would burst before that weight.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > No idea but when I saw it leave it didnt look right one side was much lower than the other and black smoke came out of the exhaust and it made some strange noises.
>> >> >> Maybe his wife was in the passenger seat.
>> >> >
>> >> > No but he did have a large fat 'retarded' teenager that did all the lifting and he handed him some sweets and he was well happy
>> >> > I often wondered if he was actually paid or just given treats like a well behaved dog.
>> >> Who cares if he's happy?
>> >> >> I used to have a colleague who was so fat she was officially classed as disabled. She walked no more than 1mph. Her hefty BMW X5 or whatever their big 4x4 is tipped to one side when she got in. She would have flattened a Fiat Panda.
>> >> >
>> >> > I't amazing just how large some people can get.
>> >> It's amazing these people reproduce. Why would anyone fuck a fat person?
>> >
>> > Maybe they aren't weak like skinny people and there's more to fuck, I guess you've fucked a skeleton or two.
>> How do you find the hole when it's surrounded by flab?
>
> Lots seem to manage

They must have 20 inch cocks to reach.

>> Billy Connelly on how fat people have sex: https://youtu.be/LHWims1hO_w?t=62
>
> Is he weak or strong difficult to tell.

What?

>> >> M'colleague got a special chair free under some disability law, he openly said "I'm not disabled, I'm fat, the normal chairs break". It's not a disability if you bring it on yourself.
>> >
>> > Maybe most do, but it's between 30-70% is genetic and yuo get it from patents.
>> I didn't know fat was patented :-)
>
> Bring in the lard tax :-)

They already fucking tax sugar! Let people eat what they like!

>> Well fat people shouldn't have kids, what do they think they're going to produce?
>
> Fat people seem to do well in wieght lifting and sumo wrestling.

Hardly required for the furtherment of mankind.

>> >> >> >> > So how to you adjust it ? most showers I;ve seen you can adjust the head even remove it so yuo can direct it where you want.
>> >> >> >> No, this is a simple five quid thing. You leave it above your head, like the fixed ones you get in changing rooms.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Do they really have those shit ones in changing rooms.
>> >> >> Dunno, I haven't been in many changing rooms, I can only remember high school and the rugby club near "race the train" in Wales (an off road running race chasing a steam train) where we got the mud off afterwards. It was so pathetic there was only enough water for one shower out of the 10. When they were all turned on, we got a dribble each. People were cupping their hands to collect enough water to do something with.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ah those were the days when knights were bold
>> >> > and toilet paper wasn;t invented ,
>> >> > they;d wipe their arse on blades of grass
>> >> > and walk away contented.
>> >> P.E. classes used to be done naked. In the middle of my high school they actually introduced a rule where the teacher couldn't make you be on the skins side of shirts and skins football because you might be too cold. So he just asked for volunteers. Of course nobody refused as they'd be seen as a girl.
>> >
>> > Ideal for peados, seems the catholic church also liked their young boys naked.
>> Nudism and sex are not the same thing.
>
> Neither is having sex and reproduction.

Agreed. So what's all the fuss about?

>> >> > Where we did our sports was dug up hackney marches and is now part of teh olympic village in stratford.
>> >> I did cross country which was out of the school grounds and along a track and a B road. Probably considered too dangerous nowadays (rolls eyes). My friend won the race. He cheated by getting a lift on the back of the bin lorry since his dad's mate was working on it.
>> > we did that for cross country I got bored and waiting at traffic lights didn't really seem much like cross country, it bored me so I just walked most of the way, only sped up when the PE teachers was about.
>> Me and a friend took a shortcut through a graveyard and cut 2 miles off the route. We just slowed down so we were last then hopped over the wall when the rest couldn't see us. There were a few questions from others on how we were suddenly ahead of them.
> I always held way back and made sure I looked knacked the top 20 got singled out to join the cross country inter-school club evens and did extra training.

We were given the option to do those things if we were good, we never had to.

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On Tuesday, 26 July 2022 at 20:25:53 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 14:09:41 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

> >> I agree. But chutes cost money and most people do it for a laugh once and aren't that good at steering,
> >
> > So charge them for it, they fuck the chute up they pay for it.
> Agreed.
> > so the number of ripped chutes would be high. Even if you miss the lorry, the chute is often dragged behind you as you land, and tarmac isn't kind to chute fabric.
> >
> > Where's the problem ?
> There isn't actually, as you said, simply charge a deposit at the start which you get back if your chute is still usable.

That would put people off I guess , I've no idea what a chute might cost.

> >> I just do it to make me feel happy and to INCREASE my concentration. Ethanol, like glucose, is a fuel.
> >
> > flies use shit for fuel,
> Alcohol tastes better than shit. Although a colleague once asked if I was drinking piss at lunchtime, I said "no it's applejuice", it was actually cider. Alcohol at work probably wasn't allowed!

We allow it at parties it's usually crap stuff those.
When we had a department BBQ last month they asked if anyone had any dietary requirements,
I said a good single malt, but all they had was cans of crap standard beer cider bitter and a few wines which were cheap,
not a spirit in sight. :-(

> > I tried a bit of meths once it was horrible nearly as bad as green chartreuse
> Can you still see?

Yep it was when I was about 14. I'd heard on TV that people drank meths , I had some I used for a model traction engine just dipped my finger in and tried it on my tongue.

> >> > I'm less than a few people
> >> But chances are it'll be one of the other several million.
> >
> > Only for the jackpot , a friend won just under £1k once, I won another £4.40 on friday.
> Obviously most people lose money, since there's the profits of the company and the "charities" they donate to.

Yes I know but there's always a chance not many other ways of getting a cash windfall.

> >> I wish I had a time machine or could see a few days into the future. First thing I'd do is win several lotteries. Or maybe mix things up a little bit to avoid detection, bit of stocks and shares too, horse racing, etc.
> >
> > For me that's proof that time travel can't be done.
>
> No it isn't. Probably just not invented yet.

>Why travel back all the way to now when the lottery winnings are smaller?

Invest it, I;d go back and offer say van goth a few shilling for his sunflower or other stuff that no one wanted to buy.
I don;t think he sold any pictures of his own during his life.

> >> > https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/woman-lottery-win-first-ticket-18th-birthday-teenager-canada-charlie-lagarde-quebec-a8277391.html
> >>
> >> Why does the big cheque she's holding say $1K when she won a million?
> >
> > a 1000$, thousand (par semani $)
> >
> > It's foreign
> So did she win a million US dollars or a million of her own worthless currency?

I think it;s a reasonable amount even after converting to UK about £600 I think Canadian is similar to US.
I heard someone won $1.3T in the US recently.

> >> Why wait till you're 18? My friends were buying them at 14. And cigarettes. I never saw the point in tobacco, marijuana is much better.
> > Maybe because you need someone to buy them for you I won a £5 on the horses when I was about £ my gran put 50p on the4 national lottery for me.
> When I was 13, my friend smoked heavily (also 13). We walked to the local shop before school and he just walked in and bought them, no questions asked.

The problem comes when you have to claim the winnings, just ask an adult to do it should be OK.

>
> When I was 18 I bought tonnes of alcohol for my friend (16)'s little brother (14). He got pissed, made a council house girl pregnant, then left the country.
> >> >> >> > 360 people became millionaires via the lottery in 2021.
> >> >> >> Out of 65 million.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Not sure where you get that from ,67 million in the UK
> >> >> Yip, I was close.
> >> >
> >> > But this july someone won £184 million just think if he hadn;t bought a ticket.
> >> > He had the choice to buy a cup of coffee or a beer instead.
> >> > That's how I see things.
> >> > I wouldn't advise anyone to spend there last few quid on a ticket
> >> You're an idiot. So one person wind, but millions throw away money.
> >
> > Millions piss money up the wall every week.
> > Millions subscribe to netflix, disney, + otheres. to watch more crap TV , millions vote for strictly
> > Millions pay a fortune to go to a football match and watch their team win lose or draw
> > when they could be watching it on TV.
> And you've just joined them.

I don;t subscribe to any streaming channels
>
> As for the TV, piratebay is free.

yeah a friend dos that I have a disc of his with 100s of films never bothered watching any of them though.

> >> But the girl looks way sexier with rock hard nipples.
> >
> > I quite like them dressed in PVC or latex , not so keen on leather.
> I don't like plastic, it's too artificial. Skimpy denim is better.
> https://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/photos/ariel-winter/heading-to-a-salon-in-west-hollywood/Ariel-Winter-in-Skimpy-Denim-Shorts--18.jpg

I don;t like blue denim black is OK.

> > Perhaps I should have gone to TG's last friday .
> What is TG's?

https://www.torturegarden.com/best-of-torture-garden/

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On Wednesday, 27 July 2022 at 01:31:53 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 13:31:18 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Monday, 25 July 2022 at 21:05:33 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 13:27:17 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 22:32:02 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 13:39:20 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Thursday, 21 July 2022 at 03:00:35 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> >> On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 01:25:52 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, 20 July 2022 at 03:12:39 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 02:52:19 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > people have died from electric shocks.
> >> >> >> >> Not often. Weeds out the weak from the gene pool anyway.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Most of the weak have already bred.
> >> >> >> And some have not.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So shows it doesn;t work like that.
> >> >> It's semi effective. The weakest don't make it to breeding age. It's how we've evolved to be what we are and not still be amoebas.
> >> >
> >> > But those people with the hoighest population growth such as the africain countries aren;t the stongest.
> >> > The strongest tend to have less offspring not the most.
> >> No, the most intelligent have less offspring. If you look at less intelligent people (eg. a council estate), people match up by fitness and good looks.
> >
> > I agree but you were talking of the weakest not inteligence there isn't much of a link between inteligence and weakness.
> > People usually match up by simmilarities goven a preference
> You said the strongest have less offspring, that is incorrect. Poor people are fitter, rich people are cleverer.

Depends on teh country poor people in Africa etc have far more children than we do in the UK.
> >> >> >> > It comes down to resistance and where your heart happens to be in in cycle and if yuo can let go .
> >> >> >> It also comes down to your heart being able to restart itself using one of the several mechanisms healthy people have.
> >> >> > If that were true then healthy people would be immortal
> >> >> We are to electric shock.
> >> >
> >> > You could always do a yuotube video to prove it.
> >> Just look up some stats somewhere. I've had 240V through me many times, it just made me jump.
> >
> > You don;t know what went through you it's the current that kills,
> Yeah.... that's why touching my 300 amp car battery kills me more than a 13A socket.

But that's only at 12V.
> > voltage doesn't travel through you.
> > It's also varing every cycle from 0 to 340V.
> Most people don't touch something briefly enough for that to matter.

touching makes your muscles constrict.
> > My father (78) got one and said it was annoying. MY neighbour tradesman has had quite a few and the only one that harmed him was when he leapt off a ladder nad sprained his back.
> >
> > Some people survived through WWI & WWII .
> Only some. But most survive shocks.

Most but not all.

> > Some die as kids die as a result of guns in fact more children die in the USA via guns than even car accidents.
> I've changed my mind on tat, it would be fun to own a gun.
It could be, nothing wrong with guns it;s just the type of person holding it is where the problem lies.

> > I've never been injured in a car accident.
> Neither have I.
> > I've never had a sporting injury .
> It annoys me when people call a sprain an injury. An injury is something colliding with you.

That's not the dictionary definition.

> > Only week people get injuried .
> What about month people?
;-P

> >> >> >> >> >> And I've yet to see 230V. I get 246V to my house. 230V is just some bullshit from the EU.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > around 241V at work, I've seen it as low as 235.
> >> >> >> >> Has anyone ever seen 230 or less? I asked for mine to be reduced as sometime it's over the 10% or whatever it is allowed, but they said if they adjusted the transformer tap, the other end of the street would be far too low, so I guess someone gets low voltage. I guess I should be happy with high voltage, it means I can draw more power through the same cable. Maybe this is why Merkins have a transformer pole per house, sounds an expensive method though.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > No idea and of course it depends on how it's being measured and what with.
> >> >> >> Voltage can be measured very accurately with any multimeter.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > No it can;t I''ve tried it with various meters and you could get up to 3V differnce between a cheap plug-in power meter and our True RMS meters.
> >> >> > We bought True RMS meters because normal meters aren't true RMS and can give strange reading that don't come out right when you compare calculations with practice.
> >> >> I've never found an inaccurate meter. I have a true RMS meter, a £100 multimeter from 1990, a £5 multimeter from a few years ago, and a couple of plug in power meters. Very accurate on voltage and they all agree.
> >> >
> >> > I'll have to check we have a multimeter cost £400 and soon to arrive about 200 £1.99 ones to give to students.
> >> > I've got 3 plugins to try but one of them was well out when measuring power.
> >> I've never bought one under about a tenner because I wanted more ranges or something. The cheapest I have is "Digitek" (no model on it) from China. No current, only volts and ohms and continuity.
> >
> > We splashed out more than I thought as we wanted contininty too
> > https://onecall.farnell.com/duratool/d03047/multimeter-digital/dp/3498310?st=d03047
> > think we got a better price under £2.75
> That's a fucking good meter. They've probably improved since I bought mine 10 years ago. That one even tests transistors, I had to spend £100 to get one that did that back in the mid 90s. Still got it. Micronta from Tandy, rebadged something, I forget what.

yeah it's amazing how cheap they can be. Out of the last one hundred we bought only one was faulty, you had to squeeze the case for the LCD to come on..
> >> >> >> Current with my clamp meter seems to be unreliable though, even though the cheap thing I got to sense the current coming in to the house is spot on.
> >> >> Ignore the above, the clamp meter is spot on. I was only irritated by it a few weeks ago, I think something was wrong with the circuit and more current was flowing back through the return than should have been.
> >> >
> >> > I guess it depends what you mean by spot on and the usage.
> >> It's as accurate as the display. 0-600A at 0.1A intervals.
> >
> > so +- 100mA well our True RMS are 0.5mA at 0.7% with 5 digits resolution
> > and we aren't limited to 50Hz sine I think it goes to 4KHz.
> But do they clamp?

No we have one clamp meter just in case we need it, but it;s never been used in 5 years.

> > We had a research student that wanted a resoluition of 1pA had to send him away to find one
> > himself.
> Give him a gold leaf electroscope.

We have 3 but there;s no display on them.

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On Wednesday, 27 July 2022 at 20:51:45 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 13:42:20 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Monday, 25 July 2022 at 22:41:10 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 13:44:58 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Saturday, 23 July 2022 at 00:08:19 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 14:12:55 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 03:08:56 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> >> On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 02:18:22 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, 20 July 2022 at 03:38:59 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 03:08:41 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, 20 July 2022 at 02:02:07 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 01:53:32 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > He must park to load and off load,
> >> >> >> >> >> There should be adequate space for parking for commercial vehicles, or the streets aren't fit for purpose.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Who gives a shit , are you now claiming that rules need to be followed.
> >> >> >> >> No, nobody should be restricted from parking anywhere, but the streets should be big enough.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Bit difficult in London.
> >> >> >> The council should make roads fit for purpose in the first place..
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mile end road where I work was mentioned in the doomsday book I think first mention in 1277
> >> >> > And it would be a bit difficult to move tower bridge or make it wider.
> >> >> Every so often buildings are knocked down and rebuilt. Don't rebuild them in the same place.
> >> >
> >> > Well london bridge was moved to arizona .
> >> >
> >> >> > Why put buildings so close together? But then your mayor is a Muslim.
> >> >> > They were built like that since roman times.
> >> >> > They didn;t have many large lorries in shakespeare day well he never wrote about them
> >> >> > or having problems parking outside the globe theatre.
> >> >> Shakespeare wrote works of fiction, of course they had lorries.
> >> >
> >> > There was a big lorry/car park in dover over the weekend I heard
> >> The French pissing around with passport control again?
> >
> > Yeah 2 french GFs and one french flatmate I know all about the boody French ;-)
> How many bloody GFs have you had?!

Never counted the longest was about 1 year, most were more like holiday romances.
>
> And why did you go out with them if they were annoying?

Well it was fun.
One french GF said that when she gets married and has children she doesn't want her husband to be the father of her children as that would give him power over her.
She wasn't referring to me, well I don't think so.

> >> > Maybe most do, but it's between 30-70% is genetic and yuo get it from patents.
> >> I didn't know fat was patented :-)
> >
> > Bring in the lard tax :-)
> They already fucking tax sugar! Let people eat what they like!

trouble is that it starts when young , I don;t remember many take-aways when I was at school now they are everywhere and I see kids at lunchtime getting chicken & chips and drinking loads of sugary drinks.
It's why so many kids are fat and with parent driving them to school if they live more than 500 metres away.

> >> > Ideal for peados, seems the catholic church also liked their young boys naked.
> >> Nudism and sex are not the same thing.
> >
> > Neither is having sex and reproduction.
> Agreed. So what's all the fuss about?

Some people can't control their emotions or acts.

> >> >> > Where we did our sports was dug up hackney marches and is now part of teh olympic village in stratford.
> >> >> I did cross country which was out of the school grounds and along a track and a B road. Probably considered too dangerous nowadays (rolls eyes). My friend won the race. He cheated by getting a lift on the back of the bin lorry since his dad's mate was working on it.
> >> > we did that for cross country I got bored and waiting at traffic lights didn't really seem much like cross country, it bored me so I just walked most of the way, only sped up when the PE teachers was about.
> >> Me and a friend took a shortcut through a graveyard and cut 2 miles off the route. We just slowed down so we were last then hopped over the wall when the rest couldn't see us. There were a few questions from others on how we were suddenly ahead of them.
> > I always held way back and made sure I looked knacked the top 20 got singled out to join the cross country inter-school club evens and did extra training.
> We were given the option to do those things if we were good, we never had to.

They didn't force anyone but if you're not good at something yuo tend not to enjoy it either.

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On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 01:15:00 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, 26 July 2022 at 20:25:53 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 14:09:41 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> I agree. But chutes cost money and most people do it for a laugh once and aren't that good at steering,
>> >
>> > So charge them for it, they fuck the chute up they pay for it.
>> Agreed.
>> > so the number of ripped chutes would be high. Even if you miss the lorry, the chute is often dragged behind you as you land, and tarmac isn't kind to chute fabric.
>> >
>> > Where's the problem ?
>> There isn't actually, as you said, simply charge a deposit at the start which you get back if your chute is still usable.
>
> That would put people off I guess , I've no idea what a chute might cost.

Since the cost of the obligatory lessons and one jump is £250, I'm sure people wouldn't mind.

>> >> I just do it to make me feel happy and to INCREASE my concentration. Ethanol, like glucose, is a fuel.
>> >
>> > flies use shit for fuel,
>> Alcohol tastes better than shit. Although a colleague once asked if I was drinking piss at lunchtime, I said "no it's applejuice", it was actually cider. Alcohol at work probably wasn't allowed!
>
> We allow it at parties it's usually crap stuff those.

I once drunk 7 pints of lager then drove 40 miles home. I drove perfectly fine.

> When we had a department BBQ last month they asked if anyone had any dietary requirements,
> I said a good single malt, but all they had was cans of crap standard beer cider bitter and a few wines which were cheap,
> not a spirit in sight. :-(

Why didn't you bring some?

>> > I tried a bit of meths once it was horrible nearly as bad as green chartreuse
>> Can you still see?
>
> Yep it was when I was about 14. I'd heard on TV that people drank meths , I had some I used for a model traction engine just dipped my finger in and tried it on my tongue.

I guess that much won't harm you. I've looked directly at a welder a few times and it didn't blind me. Still got 100% eyesight according to specsavers, who were rather annoyed I have the eyes of a teenager (in vision quality, not sexyness) so they couldn't sell me any specs after cleaning some grit out of my eye and doing an eyetest both for free in the hopes of a sale.

>> >> > I'm less than a few people
>> >> But chances are it'll be one of the other several million.
>> >
>> > Only for the jackpot , a friend won just under £1k once, I won another £4.40 on friday.
>> Obviously most people lose money, since there's the profits of the company and the "charities" they donate to.
>
> Yes I know but there's always a chance not many other ways of getting a cash windfall.

I thought I was going to get loads of money from a multimillionaire Jewish acquaintance when his son said I was in his will. The bastard left me a book, on photography, to prove a point we were arguing about.

>> >> I wish I had a time machine or could see a few days into the future. First thing I'd do is win several lotteries. Or maybe mix things up a little bit to avoid detection, bit of stocks and shares too, horse racing, etc.
>> >
>> > For me that's proof that time travel can't be done.
>>
>> No it isn't. Probably just not invented yet.
>
>> Why travel back all the way to now when the lottery winnings are smaller?
>
> Invest it, I;d go back and offer say van goth a few shilling for his sunflower or other stuff that no one wanted to buy.
> I don;t think he sold any pictures of his own during his life.

Good point, invest it in the past then go forwards and collect the interest. In fact all you need to do is take some money you have now, go back as far as you can when those coins/notes are still valid, pay it into a bank account, then go forwards and take it out with interest.

>> >> > https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/woman-lottery-win-first-ticket-18th-birthday-teenager-canada-charlie-lagarde-quebec-a8277391.html
>> >>
>> >> Why does the big cheque she's holding say $1K when she won a million?
>> >
>> > a 1000$, thousand (par semani $)
>> >
>> > It's foreign
>> So did she win a million US dollars or a million of her own worthless currency?
>
> I think it;s a reasonable amount even after converting to UK about £600 I think Canadian is similar to US.
> I heard someone won $1.3T in the US recently.

T? Isn't that almost as much as the net worth of Musk?

>> >> Why wait till you're 18? My friends were buying them at 14. And cigarettes. I never saw the point in tobacco, marijuana is much better.
>> > Maybe because you need someone to buy them for you I won a £5 on the horses when I was about £ my gran put 50p on the4 national lottery for me.
>> When I was 13, my friend smoked heavily (also 13). We walked to the local shop before school and he just walked in and bought them, no questions asked.
>
> The problem comes when you have to claim the winnings, just ask an adult to do it should be OK.

Age limits are all wrong.

>> When I was 18 I bought tonnes of alcohol for my friend (16)'s little brother (14). He got pissed, made a council house girl pregnant, then left the country.
>> >> >> >> > 360 people became millionaires via the lottery in 2021.
>> >> >> >> Out of 65 million.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Not sure where you get that from ,67 million in the UK
>> >> >> Yip, I was close.
>> >> >
>> >> > But this july someone won £184 million just think if he hadn;t bought a ticket.
>> >> > He had the choice to buy a cup of coffee or a beer instead.
>> >> > That's how I see things.
>> >> > I wouldn't advise anyone to spend there last few quid on a ticket
>> >> You're an idiot. So one person wind, but millions throw away money..
>> >
>> > Millions piss money up the wall every week.
>> > Millions subscribe to netflix, disney, + otheres. to watch more crap TV , millions vote for strictly
>> > Millions pay a fortune to go to a football match and watch their team win lose or draw
>> > when they could be watching it on TV.
>> And you've just joined them.
>
> I don;t subscribe to any streaming channels

Neither do I, I don't even have a TV License. Piratebay is way cheaper.

>> As for the TV, piratebay is free.
>
> yeah a friend dos that I have a disc of his with 100s of films never bothered watching any of them though.

When I worked at a university in the days before Piratebay, I ran an FTP server with 1000 users around the world. I got to see every single box office film before it was even in the cinema. I put a DVD writer in the server :-)

>> >> But the girl looks way sexier with rock hard nipples.
>> >
>> > I quite like them dressed in PVC or latex , not so keen on leather.
>> I don't like plastic, it's too artificial. Skimpy denim is better.
>> https://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/photos/ariel-winter/heading-to-a-salon-in-west-hollywood/Ariel-Winter-in-Skimpy-Denim-Shorts--18.jpg
>
> I don;t like blue denim black is OK.

Why?

>> > Perhaps I should have gone to TG's last friday .
>> What is TG's?
>
> https://www.torturegarden.com/best-of-torture-garden/

I don't see the point of all that plastic, they'd look better naked.

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On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 01:26:06 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 27 July 2022 at 01:31:53 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 13:31:18 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, 25 July 2022 at 21:05:33 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 13:27:17 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 22:32:02 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 13:39:20 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail..com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Thursday, 21 July 2022 at 03:00:35 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 01:25:52 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, 20 July 2022 at 03:12:39 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 02:52:19 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > people have died from electric shocks.
>> >> >> >> >> Not often. Weeds out the weak from the gene pool anyway.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Most of the weak have already bred.
>> >> >> >> And some have not.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So shows it doesn;t work like that.
>> >> >> It's semi effective. The weakest don't make it to breeding age. It's how we've evolved to be what we are and not still be amoebas.
>> >> >
>> >> > But those people with the hoighest population growth such as the africain countries aren;t the stongest.
>> >> > The strongest tend to have less offspring not the most.
>> >> No, the most intelligent have less offspring. If you look at less intelligent people (eg. a council estate), people match up by fitness and good looks.
>> >
>> > I agree but you were talking of the weakest not inteligence there isn't much of a link between inteligence and weakness.
>> > People usually match up by simmilarities goven a preference
>> You said the strongest have less offspring, that is incorrect. Poor people are fitter, rich people are cleverer.
>
> Depends on teh country poor people in Africa etc have far more children than we do in the UK.

Exactly, when you take money out of the equation, people choose their partner by physical attributes only, so you better quality kids. Walk round a council estate and everyone's better looking.

>> >> >> >> > It comes down to resistance and where your heart happens to be in in cycle and if yuo can let go .
>> >> >> >> It also comes down to your heart being able to restart itself using one of the several mechanisms healthy people have.
>> >> >> > If that were true then healthy people would be immortal
>> >> >> We are to electric shock.
>> >> >
>> >> > You could always do a yuotube video to prove it.
>> >> Just look up some stats somewhere. I've had 240V through me many times, it just made me jump.
>> >
>> > You don;t know what went through you it's the current that kills,
>> Yeah.... that's why touching my 300 amp car battery kills me more than a 13A socket.
>
> But that's only at 12V.

But you made the mythical claim that current is what's important.

>> > voltage doesn't travel through you.
>> > It's also varing every cycle from 0 to 340V.
>> Most people don't touch something briefly enough for that to matter.
>
> touching makes your muscles constrict.

Only the ones being electrified.

>> > My father (78) got one and said it was annoying. MY neighbour tradesman has had quite a few and the only one that harmed him was when he leapt off a ladder nad sprained his back.
>> >
>> > Some people survived through WWI & WWII .
>> Only some. But most survive shocks.
>
> Most but not all.

Most is good enough. Kill off the weak.

>> > Some die as kids die as a result of guns in fact more children die in the USA via guns than even car accidents.
>> I've changed my mind on tat, it would be fun to own a gun.
> It could be, nothing wrong with guns it;s just the type of person holding it is where the problem lies.

It also means sensible people can defend themselves.

>> > I've never been injured in a car accident.
>> Neither have I.
>> > I've never had a sporting injury .
>> It annoys me when people call a sprain an injury. An injury is something colliding with you.
>
> That's not the dictionary definition.

It's the only one I've ever heard of. If you sprain your ankle, yes that's an injury, because you went over on it, external forces damaged it, just like a cut or bruise. But if you just overuse a muscle and it tears, that's not an injury, it's just worn out. Same with a car, you wouldn't say you had a crash when you wore the engine out from using it a lot..

>> >> >> >> >> >> And I've yet to see 230V. I get 246V to my house. 230V is just some bullshit from the EU.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > around 241V at work, I've seen it as low as 235.
>> >> >> >> >> Has anyone ever seen 230 or less? I asked for mine to be reduced as sometime it's over the 10% or whatever it is allowed, but they said if they adjusted the transformer tap, the other end of the street would be far too low, so I guess someone gets low voltage. I guess I should be happy with high voltage, it means I can draw more power through the same cable. Maybe this is why Merkins have a transformer pole per house, sounds an expensive method though.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > No idea and of course it depends on how it's being measured and what with.
>> >> >> >> Voltage can be measured very accurately with any multimeter.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > No it can;t I''ve tried it with various meters and you could get up to 3V differnce between a cheap plug-in power meter and our True RMS meters.
>> >> >> > We bought True RMS meters because normal meters aren't true RMS and can give strange reading that don't come out right when you compare calculations with practice.
>> >> >> I've never found an inaccurate meter. I have a true RMS meter, a £100 multimeter from 1990, a £5 multimeter from a few years ago, and a couple of plug in power meters. Very accurate on voltage and they all agree.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'll have to check we have a multimeter cost £400 and soon to arrive about 200 £1.99 ones to give to students.
>> >> > I've got 3 plugins to try but one of them was well out when measuring power.
>> >> I've never bought one under about a tenner because I wanted more ranges or something. The cheapest I have is "Digitek" (no model on it) from China. No current, only volts and ohms and continuity.
>> >
>> > We splashed out more than I thought as we wanted contininty too
>> > https://onecall.farnell.com/duratool/d03047/multimeter-digital/dp/3498310?st=d03047
>> > think we got a better price under £2.75
>> That's a fucking good meter. They've probably improved since I bought mine 10 years ago. That one even tests transistors, I had to spend £100 to get one that did that back in the mid 90s. Still got it. Micronta from Tandy, rebadged something, I forget what.
>
> yeah it's amazing how cheap they can be. Out of the last one hundred we bought only one was faulty, you had to squeeze the case for the LCD to come on.

I have to do that for my scientific calculator I bought 30 years ago.

>> >> >> >> Current with my clamp meter seems to be unreliable though, even though the cheap thing I got to sense the current coming in to the house is spot on.
>> >> >> Ignore the above, the clamp meter is spot on. I was only irritated by it a few weeks ago, I think something was wrong with the circuit and more current was flowing back through the return than should have been.
>> >> >
>> >> > I guess it depends what you mean by spot on and the usage.
>> >> It's as accurate as the display. 0-600A at 0.1A intervals.
>> >
>> > so +- 100mA well our True RMS are 0.5mA at 0.7% with 5 digits resolution
>> > and we aren't limited to 50Hz sine I think it goes to 4KHz.
>> But do they clamp?
>
> No we have one clamp meter just in case we need it, but it;s never been used in 5 years.


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On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 01:42:47 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 27 July 2022 at 20:51:45 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 13:42:20 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, 25 July 2022 at 22:41:10 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 13:44:58 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Saturday, 23 July 2022 at 00:08:19 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 14:12:55 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 03:08:56 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 02:18:22 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, 20 July 2022 at 03:38:59 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 03:08:41 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, 20 July 2022 at 02:02:07 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 01:53:32 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > He must park to load and off load,
>> >> >> >> >> >> There should be adequate space for parking for commercial vehicles, or the streets aren't fit for purpose.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Who gives a shit , are you now claiming that rules need to be followed.
>> >> >> >> >> No, nobody should be restricted from parking anywhere, but the streets should be big enough.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Bit difficult in London.
>> >> >> >> The council should make roads fit for purpose in the first place.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Mile end road where I work was mentioned in the doomsday book I think first mention in 1277
>> >> >> > And it would be a bit difficult to move tower bridge or make it wider.
>> >> >> Every so often buildings are knocked down and rebuilt. Don't rebuild them in the same place.
>> >> >
>> >> > Well london bridge was moved to arizona .
>> >> >
>> >> >> > Why put buildings so close together? But then your mayor is a Muslim.
>> >> >> > They were built like that since roman times.
>> >> >> > They didn;t have many large lorries in shakespeare day well he never wrote about them
>> >> >> > or having problems parking outside the globe theatre.
>> >> >> Shakespeare wrote works of fiction, of course they had lorries.
>> >> >
>> >> > There was a big lorry/car park in dover over the weekend I heard
>> >> The French pissing around with passport control again?
>> >
>> > Yeah 2 french GFs and one french flatmate I know all about the boody French ;-)
>> How many bloody GFs have you had?!
>
> Never counted the longest was about 1 year, most were more like holiday romances.

I've managed 5 years twice, although in both cases we were on and off. One spent too much money and the other one never shut up. Apparently some people find someone they can put up with forever.

>> And why did you go out with them if they were annoying?
>
> Well it was fun.
> One french GF said that when she gets married and has children she doesn't want her husband to be the father of her children as that would give him power over her.
> She wasn't referring to me, well I don't think so.

Wow. She wants to get pregnant with John and marry Jim? What happens when John wants to see the kids?

One of my girlfriends was married with 4 kids. She kept thinking about leaving him for me, but living in a seperate house nearby as two people, 15 parrots, and 4 kids in one house would be a fucking mess.

>> >> > Maybe most do, but it's between 30-70% is genetic and yuo get it from patents.
>> >> I didn't know fat was patented :-)
>> >
>> > Bring in the lard tax :-)
>> They already fucking tax sugar! Let people eat what they like!
>
> trouble is that it starts when young , I don;t remember many take-aways when I was at school now they are everywhere and I see kids at lunchtime getting chicken & chips and drinking loads of sugary drinks.
> It's why so many kids are fat and with parent driving them to school if they live more than 500 metres away.

They eat take aways to avoid the healthy tasteless shit the school tries to ram down their throats. Wasn't there a school on the news where parents were selling them burgers through the fence?

But the driving to school is absurd, it's health and softy gone mad. When I was at school if you set foot in the car park you got taken to the headmaster. The school I worked at recently, the kids just play in the car park, and the staff are meant to avoid them. They stayed out of my way though. I snuck up on a couple of boys once by coasting my Range Rover up behind them, then I revved up the 3.5 litre V8 6 inches behind them and they fucking legged it. After a while the same car didn't work so good, very difficult to start. I was turning it over and over when trying to go home and some kids were behind me laughing. I stuck my head out of the window and said I wouldn't stand there if I were you. They ignored me. I knew it would start eventually, but running on LPG, which was trickling into the exhaust there was gonna be a bang. A fucking explosion and flames out the exhaust, they ran too. They got to like me, for some reason doing a jump over the school speed bump in a
Honda CRV is classed as cool. Probably against many regulations.

>> >> > Ideal for peados, seems the catholic church also liked their young boys naked.
>> >> Nudism and sex are not the same thing.
>> >
>> > Neither is having sex and reproduction.
>> Agreed. So what's all the fuss about?
>
> Some people can't control their emotions or acts.

What's your opinion on nudist camps then? I went to one in France and there were 3000 people, of all ages from toddlers to OAPs, all completely starkers. And guess what, I never saw a single erection.

>> >> >> > Where we did our sports was dug up hackney marches and is now part of teh olympic village in stratford.
>> >> >> I did cross country which was out of the school grounds and along a track and a B road. Probably considered too dangerous nowadays (rolls eyes). My friend won the race. He cheated by getting a lift on the back of the bin lorry since his dad's mate was working on it.
>> >> > we did that for cross country I got bored and waiting at traffic lights didn't really seem much like cross country, it bored me so I just walked most of the way, only sped up when the PE teachers was about.
>> >> Me and a friend took a shortcut through a graveyard and cut 2 miles off the route. We just slowed down so we were last then hopped over the wall when the rest couldn't see us. There were a few questions from others on how we were suddenly ahead of them.
>> > I always held way back and made sure I looked knacked the top 20 got singled out to join the cross country inter-school club evens and did extra training.
>> We were given the option to do those things if we were good, we never had to.
>
> They didn't force anyone but if you're not good at something yuo tend not to enjoy it either.

Why did you pretend to be knackered then?

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On Friday, 5 August 2022 at 20:53:51 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 01:15:00 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, 26 July 2022 at 20:25:53 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 14:09:41 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> I agree. But chutes cost money and most people do it for a laugh once and aren't that good at steering,
> >> >
> >> > So charge them for it, they fuck the chute up they pay for it.
> >> Agreed.
> >> > so the number of ripped chutes would be high. Even if you miss the lorry, the chute is often dragged behind you as you land, and tarmac isn't kind to chute fabric.
> >> >
> >> > Where's the problem ?
> >> There isn't actually, as you said, simply charge a deposit at the start which you get back if your chute is still usable.
> >
> > That would put people off I guess , I've no idea what a chute might cost.
> Since the cost of the obligatory lessons and one jump is £250, I'm sure people wouldn't mind.

Depends on how likely it was meant to happen.
As putting a deposit down on something does indicate a likelyhood of something going tits up.
A little like insurance.

> >> >> I just do it to make me feel happy and to INCREASE my concentration.. Ethanol, like glucose, is a fuel.
> >> >
> >> > flies use shit for fuel,
> >> Alcohol tastes better than shit. Although a colleague once asked if I was drinking piss at lunchtime, I said "no it's applejuice", it was actually cider. Alcohol at work probably wasn't allowed!
> >
> > We allow it at parties it's usually crap stuff those.
> I once drunk 7 pints of lager then drove 40 miles home. I drove perfectly fine.
I'm sure thats possible on piss lagar with food over a period of time.

> > When we had a department BBQ last month they asked if anyone had any dietary requirements,
> > I said a good single malt, but all they had was cans of crap standard beer cider bitter and a few wines which were cheap,
> > not a spirit in sight. :-(
> Why didn't you bring some?

Decided not to go , not always keen on these work do's
Never sure who to trust , and some can't talk about anything other than work.

> >> > I tried a bit of meths once it was horrible nearly as bad as green chartreuse
> >> Can you still see?
> >
> > Yep it was when I was about 14. I'd heard on TV that people drank meths , I had some I used for a model traction engine just dipped my finger in and tried it on my tongue.
> I guess that much won't harm you.

I expected it to taste nice with that purple/mauve colour a bit like ribina but was I shocked :-{}

> I've looked directly at a welder a few times and it didn't blind me. Still got 100% eyesight according to specsavers, who were rather annoyed I have the eyes of a teenager (in vision quality, not sexyness) so they couldn't sell me any specs after cleaning some grit out of my eye and doing an eyetest both for free in the hopes of a sale.

I wear reading glasses when on the computer , just makes things easier than enlarging the text a little.

> >> >> > I'm less than a few people
> >> >> But chances are it'll be one of the other several million.
> >> >
> >> > Only for the jackpot , a friend won just under £1k once, I won another £4.40 on friday.
> >> Obviously most people lose money, since there's the profits of the company and the "charities" they donate to.
> >
> > Yes I know but there's always a chance not many other ways of getting a cash windfall.
> I thought I was going to get loads of money from a multimillionaire Jewish acquaintance when his son said I was in his will. The bastard left me a book, on photography, to prove a point we were arguing about.
I have jewish ancestry somewhere, I never understood the joke " you can tell a jewist family by the fork in the sugar bowl" until I realised how expensive sugar was 100+ years ago as was tea.

> >> >> I wish I had a time machine or could see a few days into the future.. First thing I'd do is win several lotteries. Or maybe mix things up a little bit to avoid detection, bit of stocks and shares too, horse racing, etc..
> >> >
> >> > For me that's proof that time travel can't be done.
> >>
> >> No it isn't. Probably just not invented yet.

But if you can travel forward in time then the future has alreay happened.

> >
> >> Why travel back all the way to now when the lottery winnings are smaller?
> >
> > Invest it, I;d go back and offer say van goth a few shilling for his sunflower or other stuff that no one wanted to buy.
> > I don;t think he sold any pictures of his own during his life.
> Good point, invest it in the past then go forwards and collect the interest. In fact all you need to do is take some money you have now, go back as far as you can when those coins/notes are still valid, pay it into a bank account, then go forwards and take it out with interest.
Yeah I've got a few components in the lab maybe I'll build a time machine ;-)

> >> >> > https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/woman-lottery-win-first-ticket-18th-birthday-teenager-canada-charlie-lagarde-quebec-a8277391.html
> >> >>
> >> >> Why does the big cheque she's holding say $1K when she won a million?
> >> >
> >> > a 1000$, thousand (par semani $)
> >> >
> >> > It's foreign
> >> So did she win a million US dollars or a million of her own worthless currency?
> >
> > I think it;s a reasonable amount even after converting to UK about £600 I think Canadian is similar to US.
> > I heard someone won $1.3T in the US recently.
> T? Isn't that almost as much as the net worth of Musk?

Yeah should have been billion gotm carried away ;-)

This time next year .....

> > yeah a friend dos that I have a disc of his with 100s of films never bothered watching any of them though.
> When I worked at a university in the days before Piratebay, I ran an FTP server with 1000 users around the world. I got to see every single box office film before it was even in the cinema. I put a DVD writer in the server :-)

It's rare that I think oh I'd really like to see that

Only thing at the moment is the Orville on disney+

> >> >> But the girl looks way sexier with rock hard nipples.
> >> >
> >> > I quite like them dressed in PVC or latex , not so keen on leather.
> >> I don't like plastic, it's too artificial. Skimpy denim is better.
> >> https://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/photos/ariel-winter/heading-to-a-salon-in-west-hollywood/Ariel-Winter-in-Skimpy-Denim-Shorts--18.jpg
> >
> > I don;t like blue denim black is OK.
> Why?

Not sure maybe it;s the sort that waer blue denim .

I'ts like a really don't like denim that was featured by dexis midnight runners , don't like track suits either.

> >> > Perhaps I should have gone to TG's last friday .
> >> What is TG's?
> >
> > https://www.torturegarden.com/best-of-torture-garden/
> I don't see the point of all that plastic, they'd look better naked.

It's what you don't see that keeps the interest.

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On Sunday, 7 August 2022 at 01:07:23 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 01:42:47 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> >> > Yeah 2 french GFs and one french flatmate I know all about the boody French ;-)
> >> How many bloody GFs have you had?!
> >
> > Never counted the longest was about 1 year, most were more like holiday romances.
> I've managed 5 years twice, although in both cases we were on and off. One spent too much money and the other one never shut up. Apparently some people find someone they can put up with forever.

I klnew a few couples like that not married but been together over 25+ years.
It's not like they don;t have arguments it;'s just that they seem to work things out.

> >> And why did you go out with them if they were annoying?
> >
> > Well it was fun.
> > One french GF said that when she gets married and has children she doesn't want her husband to be the father of her children as that would give him power over her.
> > She wasn't referring to me, well I don't think so.
> Wow. She wants to get pregnant with John and marry Jim? What happens when John wants to see the kids?
John would never know he had kids so wouldn't be a problem I assume.

>
> One of my girlfriends was married with 4 kids. She kept thinking about leaving him for me, but living in a seperate house nearby as two people, 15 parrots, and 4 kids in one house would be a fucking mess.

Yeah 4 kids , an Irish GF said she wanted to have 5 daughters as she was one of 5 girls.
Closests I;ve ever come to a heart attack was when she cuddeld up to me saying I'd really like 5 children.. all girls...

> >> >> > Maybe most do, but it's between 30-70% is genetic and yuo get it from patents.
> >> >> I didn't know fat was patented :-)
> >> >
> >> > Bring in the lard tax :-)
> >> They already fucking tax sugar! Let people eat what they like!
> >
> > trouble is that it starts when young , I don;t remember many take-aways when I was at school now they are everywhere and I see kids at lunchtime getting chicken & chips and drinking loads of sugary drinks.
> > It's why so many kids are fat and with parent driving them to school if they live more than 500 metres away.
> They eat take aways to avoid the healthy tasteless shit the school tries to ram down their throats. Wasn't there a school on the news where parents were selling them burgers through the fence?

Yeah. trouble is crap food is taste , you just have to know .
>
> But the driving to school is absurd, it's health and softy gone mad. When I was at school if you set foot in the car park you got taken to the headmaster.

Ah those were the days,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LIpFTM8q3s

>The school I worked at recently, the kids just play in the car park, and the staff are meant to avoid them. They stayed out of my way though. I snuck up on a couple of boys once by coasting my Range Rover up behind them, then I revved up the 3.5 litre V8 6 inches behind them and they fucking legged it. After a while the same car didn't work so good, very difficult to start. I was turning it over and over when trying to go home and some kids were behind me laughing. I stuck my head out of the window and said I wouldn't stand there if I were you. They ignored me. I knew it would start eventually, but running on LPG, which was trickling into the exhaust there was gonna be a bang. A fucking explosion and flames out the exhaust, they ran too. They got to like me, for some reason doing a jump over the school speed bump in a
> Honda CRV is classed as cool. Probably against many regulations.
> >> >> > Ideal for peados, seems the catholic church also liked their young boys naked.
> >> >> Nudism and sex are not the same thing.
> >> >
> >> > Neither is having sex and reproduction.
> >> Agreed. So what's all the fuss about?
> >
> > Some people can't control their emotions or acts.
> What's your opinion on nudist camps then?

Don't really have one I went not my sort of thing I guess.

>to one in France and there were 3000 people, of all ages from toddlers to OAPs, all completely starkers. And guess what, I never saw a single erection.

Why would you, a female friend asked me why do men find it sexier to see her in a very short skirt, and wearing a bikini bottom as knickers,
than when she's on a beach wearing the same bikini bottom.
I said it's probbaly down to what you almost see and imagination .

Years ago people got excited about seeing ankels and then knees

> >> >> >> > Where we did our sports was dug up hackney marches and is now part of teh olympic village in stratford.
> >> >> >> I did cross country which was out of the school grounds and along a track and a B road. Probably considered too dangerous nowadays (rolls eyes). My friend won the race. He cheated by getting a lift on the back of the bin lorry since his dad's mate was working on it.
> >> >> > we did that for cross country I got bored and waiting at traffic lights didn't really seem much like cross country, it bored me so I just walked most of the way, only sped up when the PE teachers was about.
> >> >> Me and a friend took a shortcut through a graveyard and cut 2 miles off the route. We just slowed down so we were last then hopped over the wall when the rest couldn't see us. There were a few questions from others on how we were suddenly ahead of them.
> >> > I always held way back and made sure I looked knacked the top 20 got singled out to join the cross country inter-school club evens and did extra training.
> >> We were given the option to do those things if we were good, we never had to.
> >
> > They didn't force anyone but if you're not good at something yuo tend not to enjoy it either.
> Why did you pretend to be knackered then?

Didn't want to draw attention as to why I didn't you try harder.
Same with any sport I'm probbaly more interested in sport now than I was as a kid,
but just watching it though.

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 by: Commander Kinsey - Wed, 10 Aug 2022 03:24 UTC

On Mon, 08 Aug 2022 13:50:54 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday, 5 August 2022 at 20:53:51 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 01:15:00 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Tuesday, 26 July 2022 at 20:25:53 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 14:09:41 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> I agree. But chutes cost money and most people do it for a laugh once and aren't that good at steering,
>> >> >
>> >> > So charge them for it, they fuck the chute up they pay for it.
>> >> Agreed.
>> >> > so the number of ripped chutes would be high. Even if you miss the lorry, the chute is often dragged behind you as you land, and tarmac isn't kind to chute fabric.
>> >> >
>> >> > Where's the problem ?
>> >> There isn't actually, as you said, simply charge a deposit at the start which you get back if your chute is still usable.
>> >
>> > That would put people off I guess , I've no idea what a chute might cost.
>> Since the cost of the obligatory lessons and one jump is £250, I'm sure people wouldn't mind.
>
> Depends on how likely it was meant to happen.
> As putting a deposit down on something does indicate a likelyhood of something going tits up.
> A little like insurance.

No, it would be seen as damage through carelessness, not following the instructions to collect it properly after landing instead of dragging it along the ground for example.

>> >> >> I just do it to make me feel happy and to INCREASE my concentration. Ethanol, like glucose, is a fuel.
>> >> >
>> >> > flies use shit for fuel,
>> >> Alcohol tastes better than shit. Although a colleague once asked if I was drinking piss at lunchtime, I said "no it's applejuice", it was actually cider. Alcohol at work probably wasn't allowed!
>> >
>> > We allow it at parties it's usually crap stuff those.
>> I once drunk 7 pints of lager then drove 40 miles home. I drove perfectly fine.
> I'm sure thats possible on piss lagar with food over a period of time.

They were all at once at a work lunch. I don't recall eating much as the food wasn't the nicest.

>> > When we had a department BBQ last month they asked if anyone had any dietary requirements,
>> > I said a good single malt, but all they had was cans of crap standard beer cider bitter and a few wines which were cheap,
>> > not a spirit in sight. :-(
>> Why didn't you bring some?
>
> Decided not to go, not always keen on these work do's
> Never sure who to trust , and some can't talk about anything other than work.

I've never heard work talk at a work do. People go there to socialise and get away from work.

>> >> > I tried a bit of meths once it was horrible nearly as bad as green chartreuse
>> >> Can you still see?
>> >
>> > Yep it was when I was about 14. I'd heard on TV that people drank meths , I had some I used for a model traction engine just dipped my finger in and tried it on my tongue.
>> I guess that much won't harm you.
>
> I expected it to taste nice with that purple/mauve colour a bit like ribina but was I shocked :-{}

I love the smell of it. Mind you I also love the smell of coffee, but to me it's tasteless.

>> I've looked directly at a welder a few times and it didn't blind me. Still got 100% eyesight according to specsavers, who were rather annoyed I have the eyes of a teenager (in vision quality, not sexyness) so they couldn't sell me any specs after cleaning some grit out of my eye and doing an eyetest both for free in the hopes of a sale.
>
> I wear reading glasses when on the computer, just makes things easier than enlarging the text a little.

Do you have poor eyesight?

I have ridiculously high resolution eyesight, I can read the numbers on SMD devices from a fair distance when others are using magnifying glasses.

>> >> >> > I'm less than a few people
>> >> >> But chances are it'll be one of the other several million.
>> >> >
>> >> > Only for the jackpot , a friend won just under £1k once, I won another £4.40 on friday.
>> >> Obviously most people lose money, since there's the profits of the company and the "charities" they donate to.
>> >
>> > Yes I know but there's always a chance not many other ways of getting a cash windfall.
>> I thought I was going to get loads of money from a multimillionaire Jewish acquaintance when his son said I was in his will. The bastard left me a book, on photography, to prove a point we were arguing about.
> I have jewish ancestry somewhere, I never understood the joke " you can tell a jewist family by the fork in the sugar bowl" until I realised how expensive sugar was 100+ years ago as was tea.

We should have let them all die out in the gas chambers.

>> >> >> I wish I had a time machine or could see a few days into the future. First thing I'd do is win several lotteries. Or maybe mix things up a little bit to avoid detection, bit of stocks and shares too, horse racing, etc.
>> >> >
>> >> > For me that's proof that time travel can't be done.
>> >>
>> >> No it isn't. Probably just not invented yet.
>
> But if you can travel forward in time then the future has alreay happened.

No, it will have happened when you get there, but not for someone who didn't travel. Time is not exactly the same everywhere.

>> >> Why travel back all the way to now when the lottery winnings are smaller?
>> >
>> > Invest it, I;d go back and offer say van goth a few shilling for his sunflower or other stuff that no one wanted to buy.
>> > I don;t think he sold any pictures of his own during his life.
>> Good point, invest it in the past then go forwards and collect the interest. In fact all you need to do is take some money you have now, go back as far as you can when those coins/notes are still valid, pay it into a bank account, then go forwards and take it out with interest.
>Yeah I've got a few components in the lab maybe I'll build a time machine ;-)

I found some 64kbit RAM chips, want them? 16 pin DIL.

>> > yeah a friend dos that I have a disc of his with 100s of films never bothered watching any of them though.
>> When I worked at a university in the days before Piratebay, I ran an FTP server with 1000 users around the world. I got to see every single box office film before it was even in the cinema. I put a DVD writer in the server :-)
>
> It's rare that I think oh I'd really like to see that

This was back in about 2000 when I was 25. I've pretty much seen everything now, or something very similar to it. I rarely watch films, only thing I watch is comedy serieses like The Grand Tour, Clarksons Farm, etc..

> Only thing at the moment is the Orville on disney+
>
>> >> >> But the girl looks way sexier with rock hard nipples.
>> >> >
>> >> > I quite like them dressed in PVC or latex , not so keen on leather.
>> >> I don't like plastic, it's too artificial. Skimpy denim is better.
>> >> https://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/photos/ariel-winter/heading-to-a-salon-in-west-hollywood/Ariel-Winter-in-Skimpy-Denim-Shorts--18.jpg
>> >
>> > I don;t like blue denim black is OK.
>> Why?
>
> Not sure maybe it;s the sort that waer blue denim .

I like girls in denim that's falling apart.

> I'ts like a really don't like denim that was featured by dexis midnight runners , don't like track suits either.

The cheap shit plastic ones (shell suits?) are usually worn by people more likely to want a shag.

I once jump started a car for a woman when her boyfriend had deliberately flattened the battery, and she asked if I wanted paid in sex! And of course I said yes, she was a bit older than me but really fit.

>> >> > Perhaps I should have gone to TG's last friday .
>> >> What is TG's?
>> >
>> > https://www.torturegarden.com/best-of-torture-garden/
>> I don't see the point of all that plastic, they'd look better naked.
>
> It's what you don't see that keeps the interest.

Rubbish. Why use your imagination when you can have the real thing?

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On Mon, 08 Aug 2022 14:22:35 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, 7 August 2022 at 01:07:23 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 01:42:47 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >> > Yeah 2 french GFs and one french flatmate I know all about the boody French ;-)
>> >> How many bloody GFs have you had?!
>> >
>> > Never counted the longest was about 1 year, most were more like holiday romances.
>> I've managed 5 years twice, although in both cases we were on and off. One spent too much money and the other one never shut up. Apparently some people find someone they can put up with forever.
>
> I klnew a few couples like that not married but been together over 25+ years.
> It's not like they don;t have arguments it;'s just that they seem to work things out.

1 in 3 marriages end in divorce.

>> >> And why did you go out with them if they were annoying?
>> >
>> > Well it was fun.
>> > One french GF said that when she gets married and has children she doesn't want her husband to be the father of her children as that would give him power over her.
>> > She wasn't referring to me, well I don't think so.
>> Wow. She wants to get pregnant with John and marry Jim? What happens when John wants to see the kids?
> John would never know he had kids so wouldn't be a problem I assume.

Until Jim says something, and the kids start hunting down their real dad.

>> One of my girlfriends was married with 4 kids. She kept thinking about leaving him for me, but living in a seperate house nearby as two people, 15 parrots, and 4 kids in one house would be a fucking mess.
>
> Yeah 4 kids , an Irish GF said she wanted to have 5 daughters as she was one of 5 girls.
> Closests I;ve ever come to a heart attack was when she cuddeld up to me saying I'd really like 5 children.. all girls...

Like you can control if they're girls. Could have an abortion if they're the wrong one I guess.

I can't stand young girls, they're too egotistical. Boys are easier.

>> >> >> > Maybe most do, but it's between 30-70% is genetic and yuo get it from patents.
>> >> >> I didn't know fat was patented :-)
>> >> >
>> >> > Bring in the lard tax :-)
>> >> They already fucking tax sugar! Let people eat what they like!
>> >
>> > trouble is that it starts when young , I don;t remember many take-aways when I was at school now they are everywhere and I see kids at lunchtime getting chicken & chips and drinking loads of sugary drinks.
>> > It's why so many kids are fat and with parent driving them to school if they live more than 500 metres away.
>> They eat take aways to avoid the healthy tasteless shit the school tries to ram down their throats. Wasn't there a school on the news where parents were selling them burgers through the fence?
>
> Yeah. trouble is crap food is taste , you just have to know .

Nothing crap about it, I'm sure our bodies cope with anything we shove in there, after all animals in the wild often don't get a choice.

>> But the driving to school is absurd, it's health and softy gone mad. When I was at school if you set foot in the car park you got taken to the headmaster.
>
> Ah those were the days,
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LIpFTM8q3s

They should bring back the belt.

>> The school I worked at recently, the kids just play in the car park, and the staff are meant to avoid them. They stayed out of my way though. I snuck up on a couple of boys once by coasting my Range Rover up behind them, then I revved up the 3.5 litre V8 6 inches behind them and they fucking legged it. After a while the same car didn't work so good, very difficult to start. I was turning it over and over when trying to go home and some kids were behind me laughing. I stuck my head out of the window and said I wouldn't stand there if I were you. They ignored me. I knew it would start eventually, but running on LPG, which was trickling into the exhaust there was gonna be a bang. A fucking explosion and flames out the exhaust, they ran too. They got to like me, for some reason doing a jump over the school speed bump in a
>> Honda CRV is classed as cool. Probably against many regulations.
>> >> >> > Ideal for peados, seems the catholic church also liked their young boys naked.
>> >> >> Nudism and sex are not the same thing.
>> >> >
>> >> > Neither is having sex and reproduction.
>> >> Agreed. So what's all the fuss about?
>> >
>> > Some people can't control their emotions or acts.
>> What's your opinion on nudist camps then?
>
> Don't really have one I went not my sort of thing I guess.

Clothes are irrational.

>> to one in France and there were 3000 people, of all ages from toddlers to OAPs, all completely starkers. And guess what, I never saw a single erection.
>
> Why would you, a female friend asked me why do men find it sexier to see her in a very short skirt, and wearing a bikini bottom as knickers,
> than when she's on a beach wearing the same bikini bottom.
> I said it's probbaly down to what you almost see and imagination .

No, I get a stiffy as soon as a woman gets naked. But that's when we're about to fuck. Being naked on a beach isn't sexual, it's natural.

> Years ago people got excited about seeing ankels and then knees

It's pathetic. Sex is natural and we should all be fucking anyone we see.

>> >> >> >> > Where we did our sports was dug up hackney marches and is now part of teh olympic village in stratford.
>> >> >> >> I did cross country which was out of the school grounds and along a track and a B road. Probably considered too dangerous nowadays (rolls eyes). My friend won the race. He cheated by getting a lift on the back of the bin lorry since his dad's mate was working on it.
>> >> >> > we did that for cross country I got bored and waiting at traffic lights didn't really seem much like cross country, it bored me so I just walked most of the way, only sped up when the PE teachers was about.
>> >> >> Me and a friend took a shortcut through a graveyard and cut 2 miles off the route. We just slowed down so we were last then hopped over the wall when the rest couldn't see us. There were a few questions from others on how we were suddenly ahead of them.
>> >> > I always held way back and made sure I looked knacked the top 20 got singled out to join the cross country inter-school club evens and did extra training.
>> >> We were given the option to do those things if we were good, we never had to.
>> >
>> > They didn't force anyone but if you're not good at something yuo tend not to enjoy it either.
>> Why did you pretend to be knackered then?
>
> Didn't want to draw attention as to why I didn't you try harder.
> Same with any sport I'm probbaly more interested in sport now than I was as a kid,
> but just watching it though.

I'm the opposite, watching is boring, participating is the fun. You don't sit and watch people playing computer games, you don't sit and watch them play monopoly. You do it yourself.

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 by: Whisky-dave - Fri, 12 Aug 2022 12:41 UTC

On Wednesday, 10 August 2022 at 04:24:30 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Aug 2022 13:50:54 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Friday, 5 August 2022 at 20:53:51 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 01:15:00 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Tuesday, 26 July 2022 at 20:25:53 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 14:09:41 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >> I agree. But chutes cost money and most people do it for a laugh once and aren't that good at steering,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So charge them for it, they fuck the chute up they pay for it.
> >> >> Agreed.
> >> >> > so the number of ripped chutes would be high. Even if you miss the lorry, the chute is often dragged behind you as you land, and tarmac isn't kind to chute fabric.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Where's the problem ?
> >> >> There isn't actually, as you said, simply charge a deposit at the start which you get back if your chute is still usable.
> >> >
> >> > That would put people off I guess , I've no idea what a chute might cost.
> >> Since the cost of the obligatory lessons and one jump is £250, I'm sure people wouldn't mind.
> >
> > Depends on how likely it was meant to happen.
> > As putting a deposit down on something does indicate a likelyhood of something going tits up.
> > A little like insurance.
> No, it would be seen as damage through carelessness, not following the instructions to collect it properly after landing instead of dragging it along the ground for example.

But what if the wind blows you off course of the chute wasn;t corectly packed in the first place.

> >> >> >> I just do it to make me feel happy and to INCREASE my concentration. Ethanol, like glucose, is a fuel.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > flies use shit for fuel,
> >> >> Alcohol tastes better than shit. Although a colleague once asked if I was drinking piss at lunchtime, I said "no it's applejuice", it was actually cider. Alcohol at work probably wasn't allowed!
> >> >
> >> > We allow it at parties it's usually crap stuff those.
> >> I once drunk 7 pints of lager then drove 40 miles home. I drove perfectly fine.
> > I'm sure thats possible on piss lagar with food over a period of time.
> They were all at once at a work lunch. I don't recall eating much as the food wasn't the nicest.

I'ts also a perception on what is perfectly fine.
Most people that drink and drive never really think oh I;'m too drunk to drive.
I can get sleepy after drinking a lot, used to do that at work too, falling asleep after lunchtime and that was after 5 pints of snakebite & black.

> >> > When we had a department BBQ last month they asked if anyone had any dietary requirements,
> >> > I said a good single malt, but all they had was cans of crap standard beer cider bitter and a few wines which were cheap,
> >> > not a spirit in sight. :-(
> >> Why didn't you bring some?
> >
> > Decided not to go, not always keen on these work do's
> > Never sure who to trust , and some can't talk about anything other than work.
> I've never heard work talk at a work do. People go there to socialise and get away from work.

Not here , most academics and researches it's thier life , they rarely talk about anything else.

> >> >> > I tried a bit of meths once it was horrible nearly as bad as green chartreuse
> >> >> Can you still see?
> >> >
> >> > Yep it was when I was about 14. I'd heard on TV that people drank meths , I had some I used for a model traction engine just dipped my finger in and tried it on my tongue.
> >> I guess that much won't harm you.
> >
> > I expected it to taste nice with that purple/mauve colour a bit like ribina but was I shocked :-{}
> I love the smell of it. Mind you I also love the smell of coffee, but to me it's tasteless.
> >> I've looked directly at a welder a few times and it didn't blind me. Still got 100% eyesight according to specsavers, who were rather annoyed I have the eyes of a teenager (in vision quality, not sexyness) so they couldn't sell me any specs after cleaning some grit out of my eye and doing an eyetest both for free in the hopes of a sale.
> >
> > I wear reading glasses when on the computer, just makes things easier than enlarging the text a little.
>
> Do you have poor eyesight?

Don;t think so, can't easily tell some colours on resistors without glasses..
I think it;'s lack of depth of field is the cause. My brother has always work glasses well since leaving school.
I just by the cheap ones in Aldi or wherever they seem OK.
>
> I have ridiculously high resolution eyesight, I can read the numbers on SMD devices from a fair distance when others are using magnifying glasses.
Those can be easier to see than the grey text on 74 series chips.

> >> >> > For me that's proof that time travel can't be done.
> >> >>
> >> >> No it isn't. Probably just not invented yet.
> >
> > But if you can travel forward in time then the future has alreay happened.
> No, it will have happened when you get there, but not for someone who didn't travel. Time is not exactly the same everywhere.

It can't be like that as the place/person has to exist before you get there.

> >> >> Why travel back all the way to now when the lottery winnings are smaller?
> >> >
> >> > Invest it, I;d go back and offer say van goth a few shilling for his sunflower or other stuff that no one wanted to buy.
> >> > I don;t think he sold any pictures of his own during his life.
> >> Good point, invest it in the past then go forwards and collect the interest. In fact all you need to do is take some money you have now, go back as far as you can when those coins/notes are still valid, pay it into a bank account, then go forwards and take it out with interest.
> >Yeah I've got a few components in the lab maybe I'll build a time machine ;-)
> I found some 64kbit RAM chips, want them? 16 pin DIL.

Think I already have asome of those thanks.

> >> > yeah a friend dos that I have a disc of his with 100s of films never bothered watching any of them though.
> >> When I worked at a university in the days before Piratebay, I ran an FTP server with 1000 users around the world. I got to see every single box office film before it was even in the cinema. I put a DVD writer in the server :-)
> >
> > It's rare that I think oh I'd really like to see that
> This was back in about 2000 when I was 25. I've pretty much seen everything now, or something very similar to it. I rarely watch films, only thing I watch is comedy serieses like The Grand Tour, Clarksons Farm, etc.
> > Only thing at the moment is the Orville on disney+
> >
> >> >> >> But the girl looks way sexier with rock hard nipples.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I quite like them dressed in PVC or latex , not so keen on leather.
> >> >> I don't like plastic, it's too artificial. Skimpy denim is better.
> >> >> https://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/photos/ariel-winter/heading-to-a-salon-in-west-hollywood/Ariel-Winter-in-Skimpy-Denim-Shorts--18.jpg
> >> >
> >> > I don;t like blue denim black is OK.
> >> Why?
> >
> > Not sure maybe it;s the sort that waer blue denim .
> I like girls in denim that's falling apart.
> > I'ts like a really don't like denim that was featured by dexis midnight runners , don't like track suits either.
> The cheap shit plastic ones (shell suits?) are usually worn by people more likely to want a shag.

The ali-G type , I just find people in those funny.

>
> I once jump started a car for a woman when her boyfriend had deliberately flattened the battery, and she asked if I wanted paid in sex! And of course I said yes, she was a bit older than me but really fit.
> >> >> > Perhaps I should have gone to TG's last friday .
> >> >> What is TG's?
> >> >
> >> > https://www.torturegarden.com/best-of-torture-garden/
> >> I don't see the point of all that plastic, they'd look better naked.
> >
> > It's what you don't see that keeps the interest.
> Rubbish. Why use your imagination when you can have the real thing?

then why are nudist beaches so boring.

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On Wednesday, 10 August 2022 at 19:40:37 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Aug 2022 14:22:35 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, 7 August 2022 at 01:07:23 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 01:42:47 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> >> > Yeah 2 french GFs and one french flatmate I know all about the boody French ;-)
> >> >> How many bloody GFs have you had?!
> >> >
> >> > Never counted the longest was about 1 year, most were more like holiday romances.
> >> I've managed 5 years twice, although in both cases we were on and off. One spent too much money and the other one never shut up. Apparently some people find someone they can put up with forever.
> >
> > I klnew a few couples like that not married but been together over 25+ years.
> > It's not like they don;t have arguments it;'s just that they seem to work things out.
> 1 in 3 marriages end in divorce.

Pretty useless stat. really has little meaning nowerdays.

> >> >> And why did you go out with them if they were annoying?
> >> >
> >> > Well it was fun.
> >> > One french GF said that when she gets married and has children she doesn't want her husband to be the father of her children as that would give him power over her.
> >> > She wasn't referring to me, well I don't think so.
> >> Wow. She wants to get pregnant with John and marry Jim? What happens when John wants to see the kids?
> > John would never know he had kids so wouldn't be a problem I assume.
> Until Jim says something, and the kids start hunting down their real dad.

If, Jim might not know or care.

> >> One of my girlfriends was married with 4 kids. She kept thinking about leaving him for me, but living in a seperate house nearby as two people, 15 parrots, and 4 kids in one house would be a fucking mess.
> >
> > Yeah 4 kids , an Irish GF said she wanted to have 5 daughters as she was one of 5 girls.
> > Closests I;ve ever come to a heart attack was when she cuddeld up to me saying I'd really like 5 children.. all girls...
> Like you can control if they're girls. Could have an abortion if they're the wrong one I guess.

I wouldn;t of cared what gender they were but 5 is far too many I was thuinking cloers to zero.

>
> I can't stand young girls, they're too egotistical. Boys are easier.
> >> >> >> > Maybe most do, but it's between 30-70% is genetic and yuo get it from patents.
> >> >> >> I didn't know fat was patented :-)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Bring in the lard tax :-)
> >> >> They already fucking tax sugar! Let people eat what they like!
> >> >
> >> > trouble is that it starts when young , I don;t remember many take-aways when I was at school now they are everywhere and I see kids at lunchtime getting chicken & chips and drinking loads of sugary drinks.
> >> > It's why so many kids are fat and with parent driving them to school if they live more than 500 metres away.
> >> They eat take aways to avoid the healthy tasteless shit the school tries to ram down their throats. Wasn't there a school on the news where parents were selling them burgers through the fence?
> >
> > Yeah. trouble is crap food is taste , you just have to know .
> Nothing crap about it, I'm sure our bodies cope with anything we shove in there,

Little evidence of that it's why so many are obsese.
>after all animals in the wild often don't get a choice.

They do, animals can usually eat what is aviable if the right food suff doesn't exist then the species doesn't survive
It's what survival of the fitest really means it's not about who is the stonger indivudual.

> >> But the driving to school is absurd, it's health and softy gone mad. When I was at school if you set foot in the car park you got taken to the headmaster.
> >
> > Ah those were the days,
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LIpFTM8q3s
> They should bring back the belt.

Yeah I bought it one of my whips to enforce socail distancing ;-)

> >> The school I worked at recently, the kids just play in the car park, and the staff are meant to avoid them. They stayed out of my way though. I snuck up on a couple of boys once by coasting my Range Rover up behind them, then I revved up the 3.5 litre V8 6 inches behind them and they fucking legged it. After a while the same car didn't work so good, very difficult to start. I was turning it over and over when trying to go home and some kids were behind me laughing. I stuck my head out of the window and said I wouldn't stand there if I were you. They ignored me. I knew it would start eventually, but running on LPG, which was trickling into the exhaust there was gonna be a bang. A fucking explosion and flames out the exhaust, they ran too. They got to like me, for some reason doing a jump over the school speed bump in a
> >> Honda CRV is classed as cool. Probably against many regulations.
> >> >> >> > Ideal for peados, seems the catholic church also liked their young boys naked.
> >> >> >> Nudism and sex are not the same thing.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Neither is having sex and reproduction.
> >> >> Agreed. So what's all the fuss about?
> >> >
> >> > Some people can't control their emotions or acts.
> >> What's your opinion on nudist camps then?
> >
> > Don't really have one I went not my sort of thing I guess.
> Clothes are irrational.

I use mine for keeping my keys 2 bunches, 4-6 cards, a bit of money and that's just to get to work.

Don;t think I could cope this weather being naked pretty hot in london and the heat reflecting off the concrete .
Then there's the risk of sunburn.

When at work I need pockets for tools and all sorts of things.
Can't imagine many jobs wwere clothes of some sort are an advantage.


> >> to one in France and there were 3000 people, of all ages from toddlers to OAPs, all completely starkers. And guess what, I never saw a single erection.
> >
> > Why would you, a female friend asked me why do men find it sexier to see her in a very short skirt, and wearing a bikini bottom as knickers,
> > than when she's on a beach wearing the same bikini bottom.
> > I said it's probbaly down to what you almost see and imagination .
> No, I get a stiffy as soon as a woman gets naked. But that's when we're about to fuck. Being naked on a beach isn't sexual, it's natural.

That's why I don't se nudist camps as sexual, they just don;t interest me.

> > Years ago people got excited about seeing ankels and then knees
> It's pathetic. Sex is natural and we should all be fucking anyone we see.

Pissing and shitting is natural and needs doing more often , but I wouldn;t want to see someone taking a dump next to me
while I was eating or having sex.

> >> >> >> >> > Where we did our sports was dug up hackney marches and is now part of teh olympic village in stratford.
> >> >> >> >> I did cross country which was out of the school grounds and along a track and a B road. Probably considered too dangerous nowadays (rolls eyes). My friend won the race. He cheated by getting a lift on the back of the bin lorry since his dad's mate was working on it.
> >> >> >> > we did that for cross country I got bored and waiting at traffic lights didn't really seem much like cross country, it bored me so I just walked most of the way, only sped up when the PE teachers was about.
> >> >> >> Me and a friend took a shortcut through a graveyard and cut 2 miles off the route. We just slowed down so we were last then hopped over the wall when the rest couldn't see us. There were a few questions from others on how we were suddenly ahead of them.
> >> >> > I always held way back and made sure I looked knacked the top 20 got singled out to join the cross country inter-school club evens and did extra training.
> >> >> We were given the option to do those things if we were good, we never had to.
> >> >
> >> > They didn't force anyone but if you're not good at something yuo tend not to enjoy it either.
> >> Why did you pretend to be knackered then?
> >
> > Didn't want to draw attention as to why I didn't you try harder.
> > Same with any sport I'm probbaly more interested in sport now than I was as a kid,
> > but just watching it though.
> I'm the opposite, watching is boring, participating is the fun. You don't sit and watch people playing computer games, you don't sit and watch them play monopoly. You do it yourself.


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On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 13:41:45 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 10 August 2022 at 04:24:30 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Mon, 08 Aug 2022 13:50:54 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Friday, 5 August 2022 at 20:53:51 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 01:15:00 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Tuesday, 26 July 2022 at 20:25:53 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 14:09:41 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail..com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I agree. But chutes cost money and most people do it for a laugh once and aren't that good at steering,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So charge them for it, they fuck the chute up they pay for it..
>> >> >> Agreed.
>> >> >> > so the number of ripped chutes would be high. Even if you miss the lorry, the chute is often dragged behind you as you land, and tarmac isn't kind to chute fabric.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Where's the problem ?
>> >> >> There isn't actually, as you said, simply charge a deposit at the start which you get back if your chute is still usable.
>> >> >
>> >> > That would put people off I guess , I've no idea what a chute might cost.
>> >> Since the cost of the obligatory lessons and one jump is £250, I'm sure people wouldn't mind.
>> >
>> > Depends on how likely it was meant to happen.
>> > As putting a deposit down on something does indicate a likelyhood of something going tits up.
>> > A little like insurance.
>> No, it would be seen as damage through carelessness, not following the instructions to collect it properly after landing instead of dragging it along the ground for example.
>
> But what if the wind blows you off course of the chute wasn;t corectly packed in the first place.

It's up to you to account for wind, you're taught that. Incorrectly packed chutes ain't gonna happen from people who've done it thousands of times. If they do, it'll be obvious that's why it went wrong, and you'd come down on your secondary chute.

>> >> >> >> I just do it to make me feel happy and to INCREASE my concentration. Ethanol, like glucose, is a fuel.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > flies use shit for fuel,
>> >> >> Alcohol tastes better than shit. Although a colleague once asked if I was drinking piss at lunchtime, I said "no it's applejuice", it was actually cider. Alcohol at work probably wasn't allowed!
>> >> >
>> >> > We allow it at parties it's usually crap stuff those.
>> >> I once drunk 7 pints of lager then drove 40 miles home. I drove perfectly fine.
>> > I'm sure thats possible on piss lagar with food over a period of time.
>> They were all at once at a work lunch. I don't recall eating much as the food wasn't the nicest.
>
> I'ts also a perception on what is perfectly fine.
> Most people that drink and drive never really think oh I;'m too drunk to drive.

I know I'm not due to the quality of driving that ensued.

> I can get sleepy after drinking a lot, used to do that at work too, falling asleep after lunchtime and that was after 5 pints of snakebite & black.

Ah sleep, sleep has been proven to cause as many accidents as drinking. Yet you don't see thousands one for sleepy driving.

I cannot fall asleep at the wheel. I can only sleep when perfectly motionless and horizontal and not thinking about anything. Why on earth would you fall asleep when concentrating on the car and sitting upright!?

>> >> > When we had a department BBQ last month they asked if anyone had any dietary requirements,
>> >> > I said a good single malt, but all they had was cans of crap standard beer cider bitter and a few wines which were cheap,
>> >> > not a spirit in sight. :-(
>> >> Why didn't you bring some?
>> >
>> > Decided not to go, not always keen on these work do's
>> > Never sure who to trust , and some can't talk about anything other than work.
>> I've never heard work talk at a work do. People go there to socialise and get away from work.
>
> Not here , most academics and researches it's thier life , they rarely talk about anything else.
>
>> >> >> > I tried a bit of meths once it was horrible nearly as bad as green chartreuse
>> >> >> Can you still see?
>> >> >
>> >> > Yep it was when I was about 14. I'd heard on TV that people drank meths , I had some I used for a model traction engine just dipped my finger in and tried it on my tongue.
>> >> I guess that much won't harm you.
>> >
>> > I expected it to taste nice with that purple/mauve colour a bit like ribina but was I shocked :-{}
>> I love the smell of it. Mind you I also love the smell of coffee, but to me it's tasteless.
>> >> I've looked directly at a welder a few times and it didn't blind me. Still got 100% eyesight according to specsavers, who were rather annoyed I have the eyes of a teenager (in vision quality, not sexyness) so they couldn't sell me any specs after cleaning some grit out of my eye and doing an eyetest both for free in the hopes of a sale.
>> >
>> > I wear reading glasses when on the computer, just makes things easier than enlarging the text a little.
>>
>> Do you have poor eyesight?
>
> Don;t think so, can't easily tell some colours on resistors without glasses.

Then you have poor eyesight.

> I think it;'s lack of depth of field is the cause.

Most common problem, the eye muscles weaken with age. Run Folding@Home they're doing research into eye muscles.

> My brother has always work glasses well since leaving school.
> I just by the cheap ones in Aldi or wherever they seem OK.

Yip, you just need to know the power of each lens required, no need for opticians. As your eyes change you buy the next one up. Not sure if you can get glasses in Aldi that have a different lens for each eye? Or can you swap the lenses yourself?

>> I have ridiculously high resolution eyesight, I can read the numbers on SMD devices from a fair distance when others are using magnifying glasses.
> Those can be easier to see than the grey text on 74 series chips.

You just need to move the light source or tilt the chip for those. They reflect too much.

>> >> >> > For me that's proof that time travel can't be done.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> No it isn't. Probably just not invented yet.
>> >
>> > But if you can travel forward in time then the future has alreay happened.
>> No, it will have happened when you get there, but not for someone who didn't travel. Time is not exactly the same everywhere.
>
> It can't be like that as the place/person has to exist before you get there.

If you think of it as another dimension like distance, it all becomes clear. You're driving along a really long road, others are further ahead, others are further behind. You see different scenery to others. But you know when you get further along, you'll see different things. You wouldn't say "those things don't exist I can't see them". You know others are already seeing them and you will later. And of course you can change the speed of travel, or even go the other way.

>> >> >> Why travel back all the way to now when the lottery winnings are smaller?
>> >> >
>> >> > Invest it, I;d go back and offer say van goth a few shilling for his sunflower or other stuff that no one wanted to buy.
>> >> > I don;t think he sold any pictures of his own during his life.
>> >> Good point, invest it in the past then go forwards and collect the interest. In fact all you need to do is take some money you have now, go back as far as you can when those coins/notes are still valid, pay it into a bank account, then go forwards and take it out with interest.
>> >Yeah I've got a few components in the lab maybe I'll build a time machine ;-)
>> I found some 64kbit RAM chips, want them? 16 pin DIL.
>
> Think I already have asome of those thanks.

I can't think of what to do with them, I think they'll get recycled. No idea if they recycle individual chips. Melt them down into basic elements?

>> >> > yeah a friend dos that I have a disc of his with 100s of films never bothered watching any of them though.
>> >> When I worked at a university in the days before Piratebay, I ran an FTP server with 1000 users around the world. I got to see every single box office film before it was even in the cinema. I put a DVD writer in the server :-)
>> >
>> > It's rare that I think oh I'd really like to see that
>> This was back in about 2000 when I was 25. I've pretty much seen everything now, or something very similar to it. I rarely watch films, only thing I watch is comedy serieses like The Grand Tour, Clarksons Farm, etc.
>> > Only thing at the moment is the Orville on disney+
>> >
>> >> >> >> But the girl looks way sexier with rock hard nipples.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I quite like them dressed in PVC or latex , not so keen on leather.
>> >> >> I don't like plastic, it's too artificial. Skimpy denim is better.
>> >> >> https://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/photos/ariel-winter/heading-to-a-salon-in-west-hollywood/Ariel-Winter-in-Skimpy-Denim-Shorts--18.jpg
>> >> >
>> >> > I don;t like blue denim black is OK.
>> >> Why?
>> >
>> > Not sure maybe it;s the sort that waer blue denim .
>> I like girls in denim that's falling apart.
>> > I'ts like a really don't like denim that was featured by dexis midnight runners , don't like track suits either.
>> The cheap shit plastic ones (shell suits?) are usually worn by people more likely to want a shag.
>
> The ali-G type , I just find people in those funny.


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 by: Commander Kinsey - Fri, 12 Aug 2022 23:18 UTC

On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 14:08:34 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 10 August 2022 at 19:40:37 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Mon, 08 Aug 2022 14:22:35 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Sunday, 7 August 2022 at 01:07:23 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 01:42:47 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >> > Yeah 2 french GFs and one french flatmate I know all about the boody French ;-)
>> >> >> How many bloody GFs have you had?!
>> >> >
>> >> > Never counted the longest was about 1 year, most were more like holiday romances.
>> >> I've managed 5 years twice, although in both cases we were on and off. One spent too much money and the other one never shut up. Apparently some people find someone they can put up with forever.
>> >
>> > I klnew a few couples like that not married but been together over 25+ years.
>> > It's not like they don;t have arguments it;'s just that they seem to work things out.
>> 1 in 3 marriages end in divorce.
>
> Pretty useless stat. really has little meaning nowerdays.

It means what it's always meant, maths hasn't changed that much. It means 1000 people get divorced and 2000 live happily. Not good numbers.

>> >> >> And why did you go out with them if they were annoying?
>> >> >
>> >> > Well it was fun.
>> >> > One french GF said that when she gets married and has children she doesn't want her husband to be the father of her children as that would give him power over her.
>> >> > She wasn't referring to me, well I don't think so.
>> >> Wow. She wants to get pregnant with John and marry Jim? What happens when John wants to see the kids?
>> > John would never know he had kids so wouldn't be a problem I assume.
>> Until Jim says something, and the kids start hunting down their real dad.
>
> If, Jim might not know or care.

I guess she'd have to time things right.

>> >> One of my girlfriends was married with 4 kids. She kept thinking about leaving him for me, but living in a seperate house nearby as two people, 15 parrots, and 4 kids in one house would be a fucking mess.
>> >
>> > Yeah 4 kids , an Irish GF said she wanted to have 5 daughters as she was one of 5 girls.
>> > Closests I;ve ever come to a heart attack was when she cuddeld up to me saying I'd really like 5 children.. all girls...
>> Like you can control if they're girls. Could have an abortion if they're the wrong one I guess.
>
> I wouldn;t of cared what gender they were but 5 is far too many I was thuinking cloers to zero.

I'd like one. Be better to give it your full attention.

>> I can't stand young girls, they're too egotistical. Boys are easier.
>> >> >> >> > Maybe most do, but it's between 30-70% is genetic and yuo get it from patents.
>> >> >> >> I didn't know fat was patented :-)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Bring in the lard tax :-)
>> >> >> They already fucking tax sugar! Let people eat what they like!
>> >> >
>> >> > trouble is that it starts when young , I don;t remember many take-aways when I was at school now they are everywhere and I see kids at lunchtime getting chicken & chips and drinking loads of sugary drinks.
>> >> > It's why so many kids are fat and with parent driving them to school if they live more than 500 metres away.
>> >> They eat take aways to avoid the healthy tasteless shit the school tries to ram down their throats. Wasn't there a school on the news where parents were selling them burgers through the fence?
>> >
>> > Yeah. trouble is crap food is taste , you just have to know .
>> Nothing crap about it, I'm sure our bodies cope with anything we shove in there,
>
> Little evidence of that it's why so many are obsese.

That's the amount not the type.

> >after all animals in the wild often don't get a choice.
>
> They do, animals can usually eat what is aviable if the right food suff doesn't exist then the species doesn't survive
> It's what survival of the fitest really means it's not about who is the stonger indivudual.

I doubt any animal knows which food is better for it. It eats what's available or tasty.

>> >> But the driving to school is absurd, it's health and softy gone mad. When I was at school if you set foot in the car park you got taken to the headmaster.
>> >
>> > Ah those were the days,
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LIpFTM8q3s
>> They should bring back the belt.
>
> Yeah I bought it one of my whips to enforce socail distancing ;-)

One of your whips? How many do you got?

>> >> The school I worked at recently, the kids just play in the car park, and the staff are meant to avoid them. They stayed out of my way though. I snuck up on a couple of boys once by coasting my Range Rover up behind them, then I revved up the 3.5 litre V8 6 inches behind them and they fucking legged it. After a while the same car didn't work so good, very difficult to start. I was turning it over and over when trying to go home and some kids were behind me laughing. I stuck my head out of the window and said I wouldn't stand there if I were you. They ignored me. I knew it would start eventually, but running on LPG, which was trickling into the exhaust there was gonna be a bang. A fucking explosion and flames out the exhaust, they ran too. They got to like me, for some reason doing a jump over the school speed bump in a
>> >> Honda CRV is classed as cool. Probably against many regulations.
>> >> >> >> > Ideal for peados, seems the catholic church also liked their young boys naked.
>> >> >> >> Nudism and sex are not the same thing.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Neither is having sex and reproduction.
>> >> >> Agreed. So what's all the fuss about?
>> >> >
>> >> > Some people can't control their emotions or acts.
>> >> What's your opinion on nudist camps then?
>> >
>> > Don't really have one I went not my sort of thing I guess.
>> Clothes are irrational.
>
> I use mine for keeping my keys 2 bunches, 4-6 cards, a bit of money and that's just to get to work.

My housekey is attached to my wrist strap, a little RFID tag. For money you only need 1 card, or even just your phone.

> Don;t think I could cope this weather being naked pretty hot in london and the heat reflecting off the concrete .
> Then there's the risk of sunburn.

WTF? At 41C with clothes on you'd be soaked with sweat. Naked means it can evaporate. And your skin adjusts to UV levels, it's called a tan.

> When at work I need pockets for tools and all sorts of things.
> Can't imagine many jobs wwere clothes of some sort are an advantage.

So wear a tool belt and nothing else. I guarantee you'll get laid or fired within the hour.

>> >> to one in France and there were 3000 people, of all ages from toddlers to OAPs, all completely starkers. And guess what, I never saw a single erection.
>> >
>> > Why would you, a female friend asked me why do men find it sexier to see her in a very short skirt, and wearing a bikini bottom as knickers,
>> > than when she's on a beach wearing the same bikini bottom.
>> > I said it's probbaly down to what you almost see and imagination .
>> No, I get a stiffy as soon as a woman gets naked. But that's when we're about to fuck. Being naked on a beach isn't sexual, it's natural.
>
> That's why I don't se nudist camps as sexual, they just don;t interest me.

So you only like sexual things? A nudist beach is just a relaxing place to go.

>> > Years ago people got excited about seeing ankels and then knees
>> It's pathetic. Sex is natural and we should all be fucking anyone we see.
>
> Pissing and shitting is natural and needs doing more often , but I wouldn;t want to see someone taking a dump next to me
> while I was eating or having sex.

Do you get upset if you see someone stopped by the side of the road taking a leak?

>> >> >> >> >> > Where we did our sports was dug up hackney marches and is now part of teh olympic village in stratford.
>> >> >> >> >> I did cross country which was out of the school grounds and along a track and a B road. Probably considered too dangerous nowadays (rolls eyes). My friend won the race. He cheated by getting a lift on the back of the bin lorry since his dad's mate was working on it.
>> >> >> >> > we did that for cross country I got bored and waiting at traffic lights didn't really seem much like cross country, it bored me so I just walked most of the way, only sped up when the PE teachers was about.
>> >> >> >> Me and a friend took a shortcut through a graveyard and cut 2 miles off the route. We just slowed down so we were last then hopped over the wall when the rest couldn't see us. There were a few questions from others on how we were suddenly ahead of them.
>> >> >> > I always held way back and made sure I looked knacked the top 20 got singled out to join the cross country inter-school club evens and did extra training.
>> >> >> We were given the option to do those things if we were good, we never had to.
>> >> >
>> >> > They didn't force anyone but if you're not good at something yuo tend not to enjoy it either.
>> >> Why did you pretend to be knackered then?
>> >
>> > Didn't want to draw attention as to why I didn't you try harder.
>> > Same with any sport I'm probbaly more interested in sport now than I was as a kid,
>> > but just watching it though.
>> I'm the opposite, watching is boring, participating is the fun. You don't sit and watch people playing computer games, you don't sit and watch them play monopoly. You do it yourself.
>
> Plenty of people watch sport including darts and snooker.
> Something like 9 million watched the lioness win that football trophy.


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 by: Whisky-dave - Sun, 14 Aug 2022 02:06 UTC

On Friday, 12 August 2022 at 22:42:25 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 13:41:45 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

> > But what if the wind blows you off course of the chute wasn;t corectly packed in the first place.
> It's up to you to account for wind, you're taught that. Incorrectly packed chutes ain't gonna happen from people who've done it thousands of times. If they do, it'll be obvious that's why it went wrong, and you'd come down on your secondary chute.

Two chutes seems a bit of crazy elf and sofety if it doesn;t happen much.

> > I'ts also a perception on what is perfectly fine.
> > Most people that drink and drive never really think oh I;'m too drunk to drive.
> I know I'm not due to the quality of driving that ensued.

Strange that , alcohol is known to affect people perception.

> > I can get sleepy after drinking a lot, used to do that at work too, falling asleep after lunchtime and that was after 5 pints of snakebite & black..
> Ah sleep, sleep has been proven to cause as many accidents as drinking. Yet you don't see thousands one for sleepy driving.

It happens.

>
> I cannot fall asleep at the wheel. I can only sleep when perfectly motionless and horizontal and not thinking about anything. Why on earth would you fall asleep when concentrating on the car and sitting upright!?

People have fallen asleep at the wheel.

> >> > I wear reading glasses when on the computer, just makes things easier than enlarging the text a little.
> >>
> >> Do you have poor eyesight?
> >
> > Don;t think so, can't easily tell some colours on resistors without glasses.
> Then you have poor eyesight.

Lots of people have poor eyesight then but it doesn;t stop most of us doing things.

> > I think it;'s lack of depth of field is the cause.
> Most common problem, the eye muscles weaken with age. Run Folding@Home they're doing research into eye muscles.
> > My brother has always work glasses well since leaving school.
> > I just by the cheap ones in Aldi or wherever they seem OK.
> Yip, you just need to know the power of each lens required, no need for opticians. As your eyes change you buy the next one up. Not sure if you can get glasses in Aldi that have a different lens for each eye? Or can you swap the lenses yourself?

No idea +1.5 or + 2 are my preferred ones, I have about 5 from +1 to +3 , the pair at work are +1.5
don;t think Aldi to them with different lenses for each eye.

> >> I have ridiculously high resolution eyesight, I can read the numbers on SMD devices from a fair distance when others are using magnifying glasses..
> > Those can be easier to see than the grey text on 74 series chips.
> You just need to move the light source or tilt the chip for those. They reflect too much.

Yes the light source is important..

> >> >> >> > For me that's proof that time travel can't be done.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> No it isn't. Probably just not invented yet.
> >> >
> >> > But if you can travel forward in time then the future has alreay happened.
> >> No, it will have happened when you get there, but not for someone who didn't travel. Time is not exactly the same everywhere.
> >
> > It can't be like that as the place/person has to exist before you get there.
> If you think of it as another dimension like distance, it all becomes clear. You're driving along a really long road, others are further ahead, others are further behind. You see different scenery to others. But you know when you get further along, you'll see different things. You wouldn't say "those things don't exist I can't see them". You know others are already seeing them and you will later. And of course you can change the speed of travel, or even go the other way.

Yes people are already there at that point.

> >> >> >> Why travel back all the way to now when the lottery winnings are smaller?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Invest it, I;d go back and offer say van goth a few shilling for his sunflower or other stuff that no one wanted to buy.
> >> >> > I don;t think he sold any pictures of his own during his life.
> >> >> Good point, invest it in the past then go forwards and collect the interest. In fact all you need to do is take some money you have now, go back as far as you can when those coins/notes are still valid, pay it into a bank account, then go forwards and take it out with interest.
> >> >Yeah I've got a few components in the lab maybe I'll build a time machine ;-)
> >> I found some 64kbit RAM chips, want them? 16 pin DIL.
> >
> > Think I already have asome of those thanks.
> I can't think of what to do with them, I think they'll get recycled. No idea if they recycle individual chips. Melt them down into basic elements?

Some have gold on the pins I know there's not much but it seems worth doing for old chips and connectors.

> >> >
> >> >> >> >> But the girl looks way sexier with rock hard nipples.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I quite like them dressed in PVC or latex , not so keen on leather.
> >> >> >> I don't like plastic, it's too artificial. Skimpy denim is better.
> >> >> >> https://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/photos/ariel-winter/heading-to-a-salon-in-west-hollywood/Ariel-Winter-in-Skimpy-Denim-Shorts--18.jpg
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I don;t like blue denim black is OK.
> >> >> Why?
> >> >
> >> > Not sure maybe it;s the sort that waer blue denim .
> >> I like girls in denim that's falling apart.
> >> > I'ts like a really don't like denim that was featured by dexis midnight runners , don't like track suits either.
> >> The cheap shit plastic ones (shell suits?) are usually worn by people more likely to want a shag.
> >
> > The ali-G type , I just find people in those funny.
> Or hot.
> https://www.hotmilkvintage.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/39.jpg
> You'd give her one wouldn't you? And you can probably rip that shellsuit right off if you're in a hurry.

Not sure I'd bother.

> >> I once jump started a car for a woman when her boyfriend had deliberately flattened the battery, and she asked if I wanted paid in sex! And of course I said yes, she was a bit older than me but really fit.
> >> >> >> > Perhaps I should have gone to TG's last friday .
> >> >> >> What is TG's?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > https://www.torturegarden.com/best-of-torture-garden/
> >> >> I don't see the point of all that plastic, they'd look better naked..
> >> >
> >> > It's what you don't see that keeps the interest.
> >> Rubbish. Why use your imagination when you can have the real thing?
> >
> > then why are nudist beaches so boring.
> They aren't. They're the same as normal beaches but with more freedom and the ability to enjoy the looks of others.
Not sure I'd be really interested there's one in Brighton. I know there's one in germany that a friends has been to.

>
> If you're horny, there are nudist camps where sex is commonplace. I was told about one in France where they have different sections. You can have no sex, heterosexual sex, group sex, homosexual sex, all sorts. And you know the others in that area are all like minded.

TG is like that I was there once and one guy was wanking himself off while watching a couple hang weights to their genitals.
One girl was laying on a cross and having dildos inserted into her by whoever wanted to, one bloke was being whipped.
someone in their twenties (I think) was kissing my girlfriends shoes apparently he had a shoe fetish, was well into it for about 20 mins we just found it funny.
Another guy who was wearing a blue miniskirt and nothing else had a heart attack and died it was in the news sometime in the 90s
I kept a cutout of the report but they got it wrong as they said he was in a nappy and he wasn't. I remember seeing him at some point sitting down, not sure if he was dead at that point though.
One girl had a shiny PVC nuns habit outfit on with the white hat, her eyes we visible and she'd cut holes where her tits were out and crotch
were showing and that was it, every other part of her body was covered up.

Do you watch naked attraction on TV ?

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