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* Photo taken in 1977 (was - Mac drive letters?)David Brooks
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On Saturday, 13 August 2022 at 00:18:59 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 14:08:34 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

> >> > I klnew a few couples like that not married but been together over 25+ years.
> >> > It's not like they don;t have arguments it;'s just that they seem to work things out.
> >> 1 in 3 marriages end in divorce.
> >
> > Pretty useless stat. really has little meaning nowerdays.
> It means what it's always meant, maths hasn't changed that much. It means 1000 people get divorced and 2000 live happily. Not good numbers.

What about those that a separated, or just married but don't live together.


> >> >> >> And why did you go out with them if they were annoying?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Well it was fun.
> >> >> > One french GF said that when she gets married and has children she doesn't want her husband to be the father of her children as that would give him power over her.
> >> >> > She wasn't referring to me, well I don't think so.
> >> >> Wow. She wants to get pregnant with John and marry Jim? What happens when John wants to see the kids?
> >> > John would never know he had kids so wouldn't be a problem I assume.
> >> Until Jim says something, and the kids start hunting down their real dad.
> >
> > If, Jim might not know or care.
> I guess she'd have to time things right.

wouldn't be to difficult, but I did find the 'logic a bit odd, but she was french and female they all seems a bit weird,
well most of the ones I've met anyway.

> >> >> One of my girlfriends was married with 4 kids. She kept thinking about leaving him for me, but living in a seperate house nearby as two people, 15 parrots, and 4 kids in one house would be a fucking mess.
> >> >
> >> > Yeah 4 kids , an Irish GF said she wanted to have 5 daughters as she was one of 5 girls.
> >> > Closests I;ve ever come to a heart attack was when she cuddeld up to me saying I'd really like 5 children.. all girls...
> >> Like you can control if they're girls. Could have an abortion if they're the wrong one I guess.
> >
> > I wouldn;t of cared what gender they were but 5 is far too many I was thuinking cloers to zero.
> I'd like one. Be better to give it your full attention.

I think 2 is a good number, 3 perhaps .

> >
> > Little evidence of that it's why so many are obsese.
> That's the amount not the type.

it's the amount of fat, sugar and salt in processed food, that is the problem.

> > >after all animals in the wild often don't get a choice.
> >
> > They do, animals can usually eat what is aviable if the right food suff doesn't exist then the species doesn't survive
> > It's what survival of the fitest really means it's not about who is the stonger indivudual.
> I doubt any animal knows which food is better for it. It eats what's available or tasty.

They do they have senses and experience.
Some get it wrong, but generally in the wild they are OK.
They have eyes and a nose they can use.


> >> > Ah those were the days,
> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LIpFTM8q3s
> >> They should bring back the belt.
> >
> > Yeah I bought it one of my whips to enforce socail distancing ;-)
> One of your whips? How many do you got?

Just two, they were bought for me a sort of joke thing.Never really used them on anyone.

> >> >> > Some people can't control their emotions or acts.
> >> >> What's your opinion on nudist camps then?
> >> >
> >> > Don't really have one I went not my sort of thing I guess.
> >> Clothes are irrational.
> >
> > I use mine for keeping my keys 2 bunches, 4-6 cards, a bit of money and that's just to get to work.
> My housekey is attached to my wrist strap, a little RFID tag. For money you only need 1 card, or even just your phone.

were would o keep your phone ?

> > Don;t think I could cope this weather being naked pretty hot in london and the heat reflecting off the concrete .
> > Then there's the risk of sunburn.
> WTF? At 41C with clothes on you'd be soaked with sweat. Naked means it can evaporate. And your skin adjusts to UV levels, it's called a tan.

It's called being burnt, skin cancer.
Strange how the muslim countries cope with wearing lots of cloths in hot weather, it's actually cooler wearing things like cotten. Sweat keeps you cool.

> > When at work I need pockets for tools and all sorts of things.
> > Can't imagine many jobs wwere clothes of some sort are an advantage.
> So wear a tool belt and nothing else. I guarantee you'll get laid or fired within the hour.
> >> >> to one in France and there were 3000 people, of all ages from toddlers to OAPs, all completely starkers. And guess what, I never saw a single erection.
> >> >
> >> > Why would you, a female friend asked me why do men find it sexier to see her in a very short skirt, and wearing a bikini bottom as knickers,
> >> > than when she's on a beach wearing the same bikini bottom.
> >> > I said it's probbaly down to what you almost see and imagination .
> >> No, I get a stiffy as soon as a woman gets naked. But that's when we're about to fuck. Being naked on a beach isn't sexual, it's natural.
> >
> > That's why I don't se nudist camps as sexual, they just don;t interest me.
> So you only like sexual things? A nudist beach is just a relaxing place to go.

I don't find beaches relaxing they bore me.

> >> > Years ago people got excited about seeing ankels and then knees
> >> It's pathetic. Sex is natural and we should all be fucking anyone we see.
> >
> > Pissing and shitting is natural and needs doing more often , but I wouldn;t want to see someone taking a dump next to me
> > while I was eating or having sex.
> Do you get upset if you see someone stopped by the side of the road taking a leak?

No I've seen it but it;s not the sort of thing I find attractive.

> >> > Same with any sport I'm probbaly more interested in sport now than I was as a kid,
> >> > but just watching it though.
> >> I'm the opposite, watching is boring, participating is the fun. You don't sit and watch people playing computer games, you don't sit and watch them play monopoly. You do it yourself.
> >
> > Plenty of people watch sport including darts and snooker.
> > Something like 9 million watched the lioness win that football trophy.
> They're morons. Entertainment for the masses.
>
> > Not everyone plays football.
>
> So what? Play something that interests you then.
Not really interesting in playing sport.

> > And there's a massive market in Esports and growing all the time.
> > The streaming platfom twitch.tv was set up for it.
> > People playing call of duty etc I know a few that watch others play.
> That's just stupid. Play the game don't watch it.

Its; a good way of leanring how to play.

> > Oh and then there's porn but no one watches that do they ?
> That's not a sport, that's admiration.

or wishful thinking.

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On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> ---stuff I'll answer later---

You're up at 3:30am! You're getting as bad as me.

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 by: Commander Kinsey - Sun, 14 Aug 2022 23:23 UTC

On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:06:04 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday, 12 August 2022 at 22:42:25 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 13:41:45 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > But what if the wind blows you off course of the chute wasn;t corectly packed in the first place.
>> It's up to you to account for wind, you're taught that. Incorrectly packed chutes ain't gonna happen from people who've done it thousands of times. If they do, it'll be obvious that's why it went wrong, and you'd come down on your secondary chute.
>
> Two chutes seems a bit of crazy elf and sofety if it doesn;t happen much.

It happens often, very easy to tangle the first chute. I tangled mine on the second jump, it was very windy, almost windy enough for them to abandon the jump, I leapt out of the plane and was hit by a strong gust of wind which made me and the parachute face different directions. I spun round several times, realised the problem, looked up and saw the twisted lines, and kicked to spin myself the other way. I was congratulated on good control. If that had failed I would haven needed the second chute.

>> > I'ts also a perception on what is perfectly fine.
>> > Most people that drink and drive never really think oh I;'m too drunk to drive.
>> I know I'm not due to the quality of driving that ensued.
>
> Strange that , alcohol is known to affect people perception.

It's lies damn lies and statistics. You can feel yourself concentrating better for the first few drinks before it goes downhill. It actually improves your health too unless you're more than FOUR times over the recommended amount.

>> > I can get sleepy after drinking a lot, used to do that at work too, falling asleep after lunchtime and that was after 5 pints of snakebite & black.
>> Ah sleep, sleep has been proven to cause as many accidents as drinking. Yet you don't see thousands one for sleepy driving.
>
> It happens.

I meant "done" not "one".

>> I cannot fall asleep at the wheel. I can only sleep when perfectly motionless and horizontal and not thinking about anything. Why on earth would you fall asleep when concentrating on the car and sitting upright!?
>
> People have fallen asleep at the wheel.

Inferior people. Why would you fall asleep when concentrating and not in a bed? Do you also do a shit when your trousers aren't down and you're not sitting on the throne?

>> >> > I wear reading glasses when on the computer, just makes things easier than enlarging the text a little.
>> >>
>> >> Do you have poor eyesight?
>> >
>> > Don;t think so, can't easily tell some colours on resistors without glasses.
>> Then you have poor eyesight.
>
> Lots of people have poor eyesight then but it doesn;t stop most of us doing things.

It must be a major inconvenience. I would never wear specs, I'd get contacts or laser surgery.

>> > I think it;'s lack of depth of field is the cause.
>> Most common problem, the eye muscles weaken with age. Run Folding@Home they're doing research into eye muscles.
>> > My brother has always work glasses well since leaving school.
>> > I just by the cheap ones in Aldi or wherever they seem OK.
>> Yip, you just need to know the power of each lens required, no need for opticians. As your eyes change you buy the next one up. Not sure if you can get glasses in Aldi that have a different lens for each eye? Or can you swap the lenses yourself?
>
> No idea +1.5 or + 2 are my preferred ones, I have about 5 from +1 to +3 , the pair at work are +1.5
> don;t think Aldi to them with different lenses for each eye.

Do the lenses look like you could buy two similar pairs of different power and swap one of the lenses over?

>> >> I have ridiculously high resolution eyesight, I can read the numbers on SMD devices from a fair distance when others are using magnifying glasses.
>> > Those can be easier to see than the grey text on 74 series chips.
>> You just need to move the light source or tilt the chip for those. They reflect too much.
>
> Yes the light source is important..

I like strip lights, no shadows.

>> >> >> >> > For me that's proof that time travel can't be done.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> No it isn't. Probably just not invented yet.
>> >> >
>> >> > But if you can travel forward in time then the future has alreay happened.
>> >> No, it will have happened when you get there, but not for someone who didn't travel. Time is not exactly the same everywhere.
>> >
>> > It can't be like that as the place/person has to exist before you get there.
>> If you think of it as another dimension like distance, it all becomes clear. You're driving along a really long road, others are further ahead, others are further behind. You see different scenery to others. But you know when you get further along, you'll see different things. You wouldn't say "those things don't exist I can't see them". You know others are already seeing them and you will later. And of course you can change the speed of travel, or even go the other way.
>
> Yes people are already there at that point.

And the same applies to time travel. If I'm about to go 5 years into the future, that future does already exist, it's just 5 years away in that dimension, and nobody you know from this time can see it yet unless they travel in time.

>> >> >> >> Why travel back all the way to now when the lottery winnings are smaller?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Invest it, I;d go back and offer say van goth a few shilling for his sunflower or other stuff that no one wanted to buy.
>> >> >> > I don;t think he sold any pictures of his own during his life.
>> >> >> Good point, invest it in the past then go forwards and collect the interest. In fact all you need to do is take some money you have now, go back as far as you can when those coins/notes are still valid, pay it into a bank account, then go forwards and take it out with interest.
>> >> >Yeah I've got a few components in the lab maybe I'll build a time machine ;-)
>> >> I found some 64kbit RAM chips, want them? 16 pin DIL.
>> >
>> > Think I already have asome of those thanks.
>> I can't think of what to do with them, I think they'll get recycled. No idea if they recycle individual chips. Melt them down into basic elements?
>
> Some have gold on the pins I know there's not much but it seems worth doing for old chips and connectors.

They're in my "blue box" for the council. They stopped collecting it, but next time I take hedge clippings to the skip I'll ask. Also got busted hard disks, computer fans, USB sticks, etc.

>> >> >> >> >> But the girl looks way sexier with rock hard nipples.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I quite like them dressed in PVC or latex , not so keen on leather.
>> >> >> >> I don't like plastic, it's too artificial. Skimpy denim is better.
>> >> >> >> https://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/photos/ariel-winter/heading-to-a-salon-in-west-hollywood/Ariel-Winter-in-Skimpy-Denim-Shorts--18.jpg
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I don;t like blue denim black is OK.
>> >> >> Why?
>> >> >
>> >> > Not sure maybe it;s the sort that waer blue denim .
>> >> I like girls in denim that's falling apart.
>> >> > I'ts like a really don't like denim that was featured by dexis midnight runners , don't like track suits either.
>> >> The cheap shit plastic ones (shell suits?) are usually worn by people more likely to want a shag.
>> >
>> > The ali-G type , I just find people in those funny.
>> Or hot.
>> https://www.hotmilkvintage.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/39.jpg
>> You'd give her one wouldn't you? And you can probably rip that shellsuit right off if you're in a hurry.
>
> Not sure I'd bother.

You're not right in the head. I can see her being a right horny thing in bed and doing it all night.

>> >> I once jump started a car for a woman when her boyfriend had deliberately flattened the battery, and she asked if I wanted paid in sex! And of course I said yes, she was a bit older than me but really fit.
>> >> >> >> > Perhaps I should have gone to TG's last friday .
>> >> >> >> What is TG's?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > https://www.torturegarden.com/best-of-torture-garden/
>> >> >> I don't see the point of all that plastic, they'd look better naked.
>> >> >
>> >> > It's what you don't see that keeps the interest.
>> >> Rubbish. Why use your imagination when you can have the real thing?
>> >
>> > then why are nudist beaches so boring.
>> They aren't. They're the same as normal beaches but with more freedom and the ability to enjoy the looks of others.
>Not sure I'd be really interested there's one in Brighton. I know there's one in germany that a friends has been to.


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 by: Whisky-dave - Mon, 15 Aug 2022 00:09 UTC

On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 00:23:52 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:06:04 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Friday, 12 August 2022 at 22:42:25 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 13:41:45 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> > But what if the wind blows you off course of the chute wasn;t corectly packed in the first place.
> >> It's up to you to account for wind, you're taught that. Incorrectly packed chutes ain't gonna happen from people who've done it thousands of times. If they do, it'll be obvious that's why it went wrong, and you'd come down on your secondary chute.
> >
> > Two chutes seems a bit of crazy elf and sofety if it doesn;t happen much.
> It happens often, very easy to tangle the first chute. I tangled mine on the second jump, it was very windy, almost windy enough for them to abandon the jump, I leapt out of the plane and was hit by a strong gust of wind which made me and the parachute face different directions. I spun round several times, realised the problem, looked up and saw the twisted lines, and kicked to spin myself the other way. I was congratulated on good control. If that had failed I would haven needed the second chute.

Interesting not sure if I'd like it, I don't like heights on a ladder or looking directly down when on a tall building,
but being on a plane I'm OK.
I think that's the difference of vertigo and heights.
A friend of mine gets dizzy when looking up at tall building but is OK looking down from one.
> >> > I'ts also a perception on what is perfectly fine.
> >> > Most people that drink and drive never really think oh I;'m too drunk to drive.
> >> I know I'm not due to the quality of driving that ensued.
> >
> > Strange that , alcohol is known to affect people perception.
> It's lies damn lies and statistics. You can feel yourself concentrating better for the first few drinks before it goes downhill. It actually improves your health too unless you're more than FOUR times over the recommended amount.

yeah the recommenced amount is a bit odd, I've only seen double once but didn;t feel as drunk as on a few other occasions.

> >> > I can get sleepy after drinking a lot, used to do that at work too, falling asleep after lunchtime and that was after 5 pints of snakebite & black.
> >> Ah sleep, sleep has been proven to cause as many accidents as drinking.. Yet you don't see thousands one for sleepy driving.
> >
> > It happens.
> I meant "done" not "one".
OK

> >> I cannot fall asleep at the wheel. I can only sleep when perfectly motionless and horizontal and not thinking about anything. Why on earth would you fall asleep when concentrating on the car and sitting upright!?
> >
> > People have fallen asleep at the wheel.
> Inferior people. Why would you fall asleep when concentrating and not in a bed? Do you also do a shit when your trousers aren't down and you're not sitting on the throne?

I haven't but know someone that did. I think the beer was off I could hardly finish the first pint.
A few 100 years ago in london you could rent a place to sleep and the cheapest ones they stood you up tied a rope around you so you
wouldn;t fall down . They could pack more people in a room that way. think is was the 1700-1800s saw it on TV.

> >> >> > I wear reading glasses when on the computer, just makes things easier than enlarging the text a little.
> >> >>
> >> >> Do you have poor eyesight?
> >> >
> >> > Don;t think so, can't easily tell some colours on resistors without glasses.
> >> Then you have poor eyesight.
> >
> > Lots of people have poor eyesight then but it doesn;t stop most of us doing things.
> It must be a major inconvenience. I would never wear specs, I'd get contacts or laser surgery.

Thought about both but laser surgery sometimes needs doing again after 5+ years.
I can really watch TV with reading glasses on so not sure I;'d like contacts for just reading.

> >> > I think it;'s lack of depth of field is the cause.
> >> Most common problem, the eye muscles weaken with age. Run Folding@Home they're doing research into eye muscles.
> >> > My brother has always work glasses well since leaving school.
> >> > I just by the cheap ones in Aldi or wherever they seem OK.
> >> Yip, you just need to know the power of each lens required, no need for opticians. As your eyes change you buy the next one up. Not sure if you can get glasses in Aldi that have a different lens for each eye? Or can you swap the lenses yourself?
> >
> > No idea +1.5 or + 2 are my preferred ones, I have about 5 from +1 to +3 , the pair at work are +1.5
> > don;t think Aldi to them with different lenses for each eye.
> Do the lenses look like you could buy two similar pairs of different power and swap one of the lenses over?

They don't look easy to take out.

> >> >> I have ridiculously high resolution eyesight, I can read the numbers on SMD devices from a fair distance when others are using magnifying glasses.
> >> > Those can be easier to see than the grey text on 74 series chips.
> >> You just need to move the light source or tilt the chip for those. They reflect too much.
> >
> > Yes the light source is important..
> I like strip lights, no shadows.

We have magnifying glasses with a ring of LED's called helping hands with 3 croc-clips for holding things,
makes soldering so much easier .
> >> >> >> >> > For me that's proof that time travel can't be done.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> No it isn't. Probably just not invented yet.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > But if you can travel forward in time then the future has alreay happened.
> >> >> No, it will have happened when you get there, but not for someone who didn't travel. Time is not exactly the same everywhere.
> >> >
> >> > It can't be like that as the place/person has to exist before you get there.
> >> If you think of it as another dimension like distance, it all becomes clear. You're driving along a really long road, others are further ahead, others are further behind. You see different scenery to others. But you know when you get further along, you'll see different things. You wouldn't say "those things don't exist I can't see them". You know others are already seeing them and you will later. And of course you can change the speed of travel, or even go the other way.
> >
> > Yes people are already there at that point.
> And the same applies to time travel. If I'm about to go 5 years into the future, that future does already exist, it's just 5 years away in that dimension, and nobody you know from this time can see it yet unless they travel in time.

Something like spacetime , if yuo travel forward in time you also have to travel in distance too.

> >> >> >> >> Why travel back all the way to now when the lottery winnings are smaller?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Invest it, I;d go back and offer say van goth a few shilling for his sunflower or other stuff that no one wanted to buy.
> >> >> >> > I don;t think he sold any pictures of his own during his life.
> >> >> >> Good point, invest it in the past then go forwards and collect the interest. In fact all you need to do is take some money you have now, go back as far as you can when those coins/notes are still valid, pay it into a bank account, then go forwards and take it out with interest.
> >> >> >Yeah I've got a few components in the lab maybe I'll build a time machine ;-)
> >> >> I found some 64kbit RAM chips, want them? 16 pin DIL.
> >> >
> >> > Think I already have asome of those thanks.
> >> I can't think of what to do with them, I think they'll get recycled. No idea if they recycle individual chips. Melt them down into basic elements?
> >
> > Some have gold on the pins I know there's not much but it seems worth doing for old chips and connectors.
> They're in my "blue box" for the council. They stopped collecting it, but next time I take hedge clippings to the skip I'll ask. Also got busted hard disks, computer fans, USB sticks, etc.

we have an electrical waste bin at work for such things.
I have hard drives, one day I'll remove the circuit boards add some surface mount LEDs and a small battery and flashing circuit
and frame it as art. Not sure I'll win a turner prize but one day I'll get around to it.

> >> >> >> >> >> But the girl looks way sexier with rock hard nipples.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > I quite like them dressed in PVC or latex , not so keen on leather.
> >> >> >> >> I don't like plastic, it's too artificial. Skimpy denim is better.
> >> >> >> >> https://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/photos/ariel-winter/heading-to-a-salon-in-west-hollywood/Ariel-Winter-in-Skimpy-Denim-Shorts--18.jpg
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I don;t like blue denim black is OK.
> >> >> >> Why?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Not sure maybe it;s the sort that waer blue denim .
> >> >> I like girls in denim that's falling apart.
> >> >> > I'ts like a really don't like denim that was featured by dexis midnight runners , don't like track suits either.
> >> >> The cheap shit plastic ones (shell suits?) are usually worn by people more likely to want a shag.
> >> >
> >> > The ali-G type , I just find people in those funny.
> >> Or hot.
> >> https://www.hotmilkvintage.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/39.jpg
> >> You'd give her one wouldn't you? And you can probably rip that shellsuit right off if you're in a hurry.
> >
> > Not sure I'd bother.
> You're not right in the head. I can see her being a right horny thing in bed and doing it all night.


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On Sunday, 14 August 2022 at 04:40:39 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > ---stuff I'll answer later---
>
> You're up at 3:30am! You're getting as bad as me.
too hot to sleep, not to keen on this hot weather 30C at 2am in my room.

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On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 01:11:30 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, 14 August 2022 at 04:40:39 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > ---stuff I'll answer later---
>>
>> You're up at 3:30am! You're getting as bad as me.
>too hot to sleep, not to keen on this hot weather 30C at 2am in my room..

Get an air conditioner like me. I can't sleep above 20C. Only cost me £400. It's fucking wonderful to have ice cold air being blasted into the house.

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On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 01:35:04 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 01:11:30 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, 14 August 2022 at 04:40:39 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > ---stuff I'll answer later---
> >>
> >> You're up at 3:30am! You're getting as bad as me.
> >too hot to sleep, not to keen on this hot weather 30C at 2am in my room.
> Get an air conditioner like me. I can't sleep above 20C. Only cost me £400. It's fucking wonderful to have ice cold air being blasted into the house.
I did jave a portable one , the ones I've seen made a lot of noise so I couldn;t sleep due to the noise .
But I guess yuo get used to the noise. Which do you have ?.

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On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 01:09:46 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 00:23:52 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:06:04 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Friday, 12 August 2022 at 22:42:25 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 13:41:45 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> > But what if the wind blows you off course of the chute wasn;t corectly packed in the first place.
>> >> It's up to you to account for wind, you're taught that. Incorrectly packed chutes ain't gonna happen from people who've done it thousands of times. If they do, it'll be obvious that's why it went wrong, and you'd come down on your secondary chute.
>> >
>> > Two chutes seems a bit of crazy elf and sofety if it doesn;t happen much.
>> It happens often, very easy to tangle the first chute. I tangled mine on the second jump, it was very windy, almost windy enough for them to abandon the jump, I leapt out of the plane and was hit by a strong gust of wind which made me and the parachute face different directions. I spun round several times, realised the problem, looked up and saw the twisted lines, and kicked to spin myself the other way. I was congratulated on good control. If that had failed I would haven needed the second chute.
>
> Interesting not sure if I'd like it, I don't like heights on a ladder or looking directly down when on a tall building,
> but being on a plane I'm OK.
> I think that's the difference of vertigo and heights.
> A friend of mine gets dizzy when looking up at tall building but is OK looking down from one.

When I was 4000 feet in the air, looking down didn't seem high, the ground was so small it just looked like some kind of model setup. And hanging from the chute with steering controls, I felt more like I was in a vehicle than floating mid air.

>> >> > I'ts also a perception on what is perfectly fine.
>> >> > Most people that drink and drive never really think oh I;'m too drunk to drive.
>> >> I know I'm not due to the quality of driving that ensued.
>> >
>> > Strange that , alcohol is known to affect people perception.
>> It's lies damn lies and statistics. You can feel yourself concentrating better for the first few drinks before it goes downhill. It actually improves your health too unless you're more than FOUR times over the recommended amount.
>
> yeah the recommenced amount is a bit odd, I've only seen double once but didn;t feel as drunk as on a few other occasions.

As I drink more far away things become slightly out of focus, but not bad enough cause a problem. I thought my sight was going until I realised it was ok on the rare occasion I was sober.

The RDA is good for you. Double the RDA is even better for you. Triple the RDA is the same for you as the RDA. Quadruple the RDA is the same as being T-Total. Only after that you go downhill.

>> >> > I can get sleepy after drinking a lot, used to do that at work too, falling asleep after lunchtime and that was after 5 pints of snakebite & black.
>> >> Ah sleep, sleep has been proven to cause as many accidents as drinking. Yet you don't see thousands one for sleepy driving.
>> >
>> > It happens.
>> I meant "done" not "one".
> OK
>
>> >> I cannot fall asleep at the wheel. I can only sleep when perfectly motionless and horizontal and not thinking about anything. Why on earth would you fall asleep when concentrating on the car and sitting upright!?
>> >
>> > People have fallen asleep at the wheel.
>> Inferior people. Why would you fall asleep when concentrating and not in a bed? Do you also do a shit when your trousers aren't down and you're not sitting on the throne?
>
> I haven't but know someone that did. I think the beer was off I could hardly finish the first pint.
> A few 100 years ago in london you could rent a place to sleep and the cheapest ones they stood you up tied a rope around you so you
> wouldn;t fall down . They could pack more people in a room that way. think is was the 1700-1800s saw it on TV.

I'd had to have missed a few night's sleep before that would work for me.

>> >> >> > I wear reading glasses when on the computer, just makes things easier than enlarging the text a little.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Do you have poor eyesight?
>> >> >
>> >> > Don;t think so, can't easily tell some colours on resistors without glasses.
>> >> Then you have poor eyesight.
>> >
>> > Lots of people have poor eyesight then but it doesn;t stop most of us doing things.
>> It must be a major inconvenience. I would never wear specs, I'd get contacts or laser surgery.
>
> Thought about both but laser surgery sometimes needs doing again after 5+ years.
> I can really watch TV with reading glasses on so not sure I;'d like contacts for just reading.

Don't you get varifocal contacts? Or do what my Aunt does. Contacts so distance is ok, then add glasses for short range stuff only, without having to remove the contacts.

>> >> > I think it;'s lack of depth of field is the cause.
>> >> Most common problem, the eye muscles weaken with age. Run Folding@Home they're doing research into eye muscles.
>> >> > My brother has always work glasses well since leaving school.
>> >> > I just by the cheap ones in Aldi or wherever they seem OK.
>> >> Yip, you just need to know the power of each lens required, no need for opticians. As your eyes change you buy the next one up. Not sure if you can get glasses in Aldi that have a different lens for each eye? Or can you swap the lenses yourself?
>> >
>> > No idea +1.5 or + 2 are my preferred ones, I have about 5 from +1 to +3 , the pair at work are +1.5
>> > don;t think Aldi to them with different lenses for each eye.
>> Do the lenses look like you could buy two similar pairs of different power and swap one of the lenses over?
>
> They don't look easy to take out.
>
>> >> >> I have ridiculously high resolution eyesight, I can read the numbers on SMD devices from a fair distance when others are using magnifying glasses.
>> >> > Those can be easier to see than the grey text on 74 series chips.
>> >> You just need to move the light source or tilt the chip for those. They reflect too much.
>> >
>> > Yes the light source is important..
>> I like strip lights, no shadows.
>
> We have magnifying glasses with a ring of LED's called helping hands with 3 croc-clips for holding things,
> makes soldering so much easier .

Yes I use those, but without the LED ring. I have decent room lighting anyway. I've got 200 watts of LEDs (which would be equivalent to 1.5kW of incandescent) in my living room which is 7m x 3.5m. Plus some UV lights as the parrots can see UV.

>> >> >> >> >> > For me that's proof that time travel can't be done.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> No it isn't. Probably just not invented yet.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > But if you can travel forward in time then the future has alreay happened.
>> >> >> No, it will have happened when you get there, but not for someone who didn't travel. Time is not exactly the same everywhere.
>> >> >
>> >> > It can't be like that as the place/person has to exist before you get there.
>> >> If you think of it as another dimension like distance, it all becomes clear. You're driving along a really long road, others are further ahead, others are further behind. You see different scenery to others. But you know when you get further along, you'll see different things. You wouldn't say "those things don't exist I can't see them". You know others are already seeing them and you will later. And of course you can change the speed of travel, or even go the other way.
>> >
>> > Yes people are already there at that point.
>> And the same applies to time travel. If I'm about to go 5 years into the future, that future does already exist, it's just 5 years away in that dimension, and nobody you know from this time can see it yet unless they travel in time.
>
> Something like spacetime , if yuo travel forward in time you also have to travel in distance too.

Why? If you travel north you don't have to go a bit east too.

>> >> >> >> >> Why travel back all the way to now when the lottery winnings are smaller?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Invest it, I;d go back and offer say van goth a few shilling for his sunflower or other stuff that no one wanted to buy.
>> >> >> >> > I don;t think he sold any pictures of his own during his life.
>> >> >> >> Good point, invest it in the past then go forwards and collect the interest. In fact all you need to do is take some money you have now, go back as far as you can when those coins/notes are still valid, pay it into a bank account, then go forwards and take it out with interest.
>> >> >> >Yeah I've got a few components in the lab maybe I'll build a time machine ;-)
>> >> >> I found some 64kbit RAM chips, want them? 16 pin DIL.
>> >> >
>> >> > Think I already have asome of those thanks.
>> >> I can't think of what to do with them, I think they'll get recycled. No idea if they recycle individual chips. Melt them down into basic elements?
>> >
>> > Some have gold on the pins I know there's not much but it seems worth doing for old chips and connectors.
>> They're in my "blue box" for the council. They stopped collecting it, but next time I take hedge clippings to the skip I'll ask. Also got busted hard disks, computer fans, USB sticks, etc.
>
> we have an electrical waste bin at work for such things.
> I have hard drives, one day I'll remove the circuit boards add some surface mount LEDs and a small battery and flashing circuit
> and frame it as art. Not sure I'll win a turner prize but one day I'll get around to it.


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On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, 13 August 2022 at 00:18:59 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 14:08:34 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >> > I klnew a few couples like that not married but been together over 25+ years.
>> >> > It's not like they don;t have arguments it;'s just that they seem to work things out.
>> >> 1 in 3 marriages end in divorce.
>> >
>> > Pretty useless stat. really has little meaning nowerdays.
>> It means what it's always meant, maths hasn't changed that much. It means 1000 people get divorced and 2000 live happily. Not good numbers.
>
> What about those that a separated, or just married but don't live together.

That's hardly a successful marriage.

>> >> >> >> And why did you go out with them if they were annoying?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Well it was fun.
>> >> >> > One french GF said that when she gets married and has children she doesn't want her husband to be the father of her children as that would give him power over her.
>> >> >> > She wasn't referring to me, well I don't think so.
>> >> >> Wow. She wants to get pregnant with John and marry Jim? What happens when John wants to see the kids?
>> >> > John would never know he had kids so wouldn't be a problem I assume.
>> >> Until Jim says something, and the kids start hunting down their real dad.
>> >
>> > If, Jim might not know or care.
>> I guess she'd have to time things right.
>
> wouldn't be to difficult, but I did find the 'logic a bit odd, but she was french and female they all seems a bit weird,
> well most of the ones I've met anyway.

A French exchange student (who was supposed to help teach us French) when I was at school fucked one of my friends in the swimming pool. For some reason they actually drained it and cleaned it! Don't think she got into much trouble, they weren't obsessed with ages back then.

>> >> >> One of my girlfriends was married with 4 kids. She kept thinking about leaving him for me, but living in a seperate house nearby as two people, 15 parrots, and 4 kids in one house would be a fucking mess.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yeah 4 kids , an Irish GF said she wanted to have 5 daughters as she was one of 5 girls.
>> >> > Closests I;ve ever come to a heart attack was when she cuddeld up to me saying I'd really like 5 children.. all girls...
>> >> Like you can control if they're girls. Could have an abortion if they're the wrong one I guess.
>> >
>> > I wouldn;t of cared what gender they were but 5 is far too many I was thuinking cloers to zero.
>> I'd like one. Be better to give it your full attention.
>
> I think 2 is a good number, 3 perhaps .

You said closer to zero a minute ago.

>> > Little evidence of that it's why so many are obsese.
>> That's the amount not the type.
>
> it's the amount of fat, sugar and salt in processed food, that is the problem.

Bollocks. Calories are calories. People are fat or thin based on genetics. We need to stop the unhealthy blobs breeding.

>> > >after all animals in the wild often don't get a choice.
>> >
>> > They do, animals can usually eat what is aviable if the right food suff doesn't exist then the species doesn't survive
>> > It's what survival of the fitest really means it's not about who is the stonger indivudual.
>> I doubt any animal knows which food is better for it. It eats what's available or tasty.
>
> They do they have senses and experience.
> Some get it wrong, but generally in the wild they are OK.
> They have eyes and a nose they can use.

They know what's poisonous, but I doubt they have a grasp of vitamins.

>> >> > Ah those were the days,
>> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LIpFTM8q3s
>> >> They should bring back the belt.
>> >
>> > Yeah I bought it one of my whips to enforce socail distancing ;-)
>> One of your whips? How many do you got?
>
> Just two, they were bought for me a sort of joke thing.Never really used them on anyone.

"Never really"? So sort of?

>> >> >> > Some people can't control their emotions or acts.
>> >> >> What's your opinion on nudist camps then?
>> >> >
>> >> > Don't really have one I went not my sort of thing I guess.
>> >> Clothes are irrational.
>> >
>> > I use mine for keeping my keys 2 bunches, 4-6 cards, a bit of money and that's just to get to work.
>> My housekey is attached to my wrist strap, a little RFID tag. For money you only need 1 card, or even just your phone.
>
> were would o keep your phone ?

You can get arm pouches for phones. I have one, but I've only ever used it to carry a chocolate bar in a marathon - my secret weapon!

>> > Don;t think I could cope this weather being naked pretty hot in london and the heat reflecting off the concrete .
>> > Then there's the risk of sunburn.
>> WTF? At 41C with clothes on you'd be soaked with sweat. Naked means it can evaporate. And your skin adjusts to UV levels, it's called a tan.
>
> It's called being burnt, skin cancer.

A myth. How can a natural thing be bad for you? Suntan is your skin adkusting the amount that gets through.

> Strange how the muslim countries cope with wearing lots of cloths in hot weather, it's actually cooler wearing things like cotten. Sweat keeps you cool.

It needs to evaporate. When your shirt is soaked with sweat, remove it. You will immediately feel cooler.

>> > When at work I need pockets for tools and all sorts of things.
>> > Can't imagine many jobs wwere clothes of some sort are an advantage.
>> So wear a tool belt and nothing else. I guarantee you'll get laid or fired within the hour.
>> >> >> to one in France and there were 3000 people, of all ages from toddlers to OAPs, all completely starkers. And guess what, I never saw a single erection.
>> >> >
>> >> > Why would you, a female friend asked me why do men find it sexier to see her in a very short skirt, and wearing a bikini bottom as knickers,
>> >> > than when she's on a beach wearing the same bikini bottom.
>> >> > I said it's probbaly down to what you almost see and imagination .
>> >> No, I get a stiffy as soon as a woman gets naked. But that's when we're about to fuck. Being naked on a beach isn't sexual, it's natural.
>> >
>> > That's why I don't se nudist camps as sexual, they just don;t interest me.
>> So you only like sexual things? A nudist beach is just a relaxing place to go.
>
> I don't find beaches relaxing they bore me.

You do something fun to get tired, then relax. Go windsurfing or swimming or running or something.

>> >> > Years ago people got excited about seeing ankels and then knees
>> >> It's pathetic. Sex is natural and we should all be fucking anyone we see.
>> >
>> > Pissing and shitting is natural and needs doing more often , but I wouldn;t want to see someone taking a dump next to me
>> > while I was eating or having sex.
>> Do you get upset if you see someone stopped by the side of the road taking a leak?
>
> No I've seen it but it;s not the sort of thing I find attractive.

It's just a natural thing that has to be done.

>> >> > Same with any sport I'm probbaly more interested in sport now than I was as a kid,
>> >> > but just watching it though.
>> >> I'm the opposite, watching is boring, participating is the fun. You don't sit and watch people playing computer games, you don't sit and watch them play monopoly. You do it yourself.
>> >
>> > Plenty of people watch sport including darts and snooker.
>> > Something like 9 million watched the lioness win that football trophy.
>> They're morons. Entertainment for the masses.
>>
>> > Not everyone plays football.
>>
>> So what? Play something that interests you then.
> Not really interesting in playing sport.

I don't like stuff like football, but a running race is fun.

>> > And there's a massive market in Esports and growing all the time.
>> > The streaming platfom twitch.tv was set up for it.
>> > People playing call of duty etc I know a few that watch others play.
>> That's just stupid. Play the game don't watch it.
>
> Its; a good way of leanring how to play.


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On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 13:02:14 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 01:35:04 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 01:11:30 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Sunday, 14 August 2022 at 04:40:39 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > ---stuff I'll answer later---
>> >>
>> >> You're up at 3:30am! You're getting as bad as me.
>> >too hot to sleep, not to keen on this hot weather 30C at 2am in my room.
>> Get an air conditioner like me. I can't sleep above 20C. Only cost me £400. It's fucking wonderful to have ice cold air being blasted into the house.
>I did jave a portable one , the ones I've seen made a lot of noise so I couldn;t sleep due to the noise .
> But I guess yuo get used to the noise.

You turn it off at night, make the house cool enough before you go to bed.

> Which do you have ?

This: https://apnardeal.com/ads/chigo-1-5-ton-portable-air-conditioner-ac-15000-btu/

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On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 21:05:31 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 01:09:46 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 00:23:52 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:06:04 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Friday, 12 August 2022 at 22:42:25 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 13:41:45 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> > But what if the wind blows you off course of the chute wasn;t corectly packed in the first place.
> >> >> It's up to you to account for wind, you're taught that. Incorrectly packed chutes ain't gonna happen from people who've done it thousands of times. If they do, it'll be obvious that's why it went wrong, and you'd come down on your secondary chute.
> >> >
> >> > Two chutes seems a bit of crazy elf and sofety if it doesn;t happen much.
> >> It happens often, very easy to tangle the first chute. I tangled mine on the second jump, it was very windy, almost windy enough for them to abandon the jump, I leapt out of the plane and was hit by a strong gust of wind which made me and the parachute face different directions. I spun round several times, realised the problem, looked up and saw the twisted lines, and kicked to spin myself the other way. I was congratulated on good control. If that had failed I would haven needed the second chute.
> >
> > Interesting not sure if I'd like it, I don't like heights on a ladder or looking directly down when on a tall building,
> > but being on a plane I'm OK.
> > I think that's the difference of vertigo and heights.
> > A friend of mine gets dizzy when looking up at tall building but is OK looking down from one.
> When I was 4000 feet in the air, looking down didn't seem high, the ground was so small it just looked like some kind of model setup. And hanging from the chute with steering controls, I felt more like I was in a vehicle than floating mid air.
> >> >> > I'ts also a perception on what is perfectly fine.
> >> >> > Most people that drink and drive never really think oh I;'m too drunk to drive.
> >> >> I know I'm not due to the quality of driving that ensued.
> >> >
> >> > Strange that , alcohol is known to affect people perception.
> >> It's lies damn lies and statistics. You can feel yourself concentrating better for the first few drinks before it goes downhill. It actually improves your health too unless you're more than FOUR times over the recommended amount.
> >
> > yeah the recommenced amount is a bit odd, I've only seen double once but didn;t feel as drunk as on a few other occasions.
> As I drink more far away things become slightly out of focus, but not bad enough cause a problem. I thought my sight was going until I realised it was ok on the rare occasion I was sober.

I don;t remmeber focussing being an issue but co-ordination & balance could a bit off.
Certain types of women became more attractive as I drank more which can be a problem.

>
> The RDA is good for you. Double the RDA is even better for you. Triple the RDA is the same for you as the RDA. Quadruple the RDA is the same as being T-Total. Only after that you go downhill.

Not sure how true that is as many people are efectivley T-total of just don;t drink due to culture. They seem to cope with life without drink alcohol.
Don;t forget it's an allowence and not something you must have.

> >> >> > I can get sleepy after drinking a lot, used to do that at work too, falling asleep after lunchtime and that was after 5 pints of snakebite & black.
> >> >> Ah sleep, sleep has been proven to cause as many accidents as drinking. Yet you don't see thousands one for sleepy driving.
> >> >
> >> > It happens.
> >> I meant "done" not "one".
> > OK
> >
> >> >> I cannot fall asleep at the wheel. I can only sleep when perfectly motionless and horizontal and not thinking about anything. Why on earth would you fall asleep when concentrating on the car and sitting upright!?
> >> >
> >> > People have fallen asleep at the wheel.
> >> Inferior people. Why would you fall asleep when concentrating and not in a bed? Do you also do a shit when your trousers aren't down and you're not sitting on the throne?
> >
> > I haven't but know someone that did. I think the beer was off I could hardly finish the first pint.
> > A few 100 years ago in london you could rent a place to sleep and the cheapest ones they stood you up tied a rope around you so you
> > wouldn;t fall down . They could pack more people in a room that way. think is was the 1700-1800s saw it on TV.
> I'd had to have missed a few night's sleep before that would work for me.
> >> >> >> > I wear reading glasses when on the computer, just makes things easier than enlarging the text a little.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Do you have poor eyesight?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Don;t think so, can't easily tell some colours on resistors without glasses.
> >> >> Then you have poor eyesight.
> >> >
> >> > Lots of people have poor eyesight then but it doesn;t stop most of us doing things.
> >> It must be a major inconvenience. I would never wear specs, I'd get contacts or laser surgery.
> >
> > Thought about both but laser surgery sometimes needs doing again after 5+ years.
> > I can really watch TV with reading glasses on so not sure I;'d like contacts for just reading.
> Don't you get varifocal contacts? Or do what my Aunt does. Contacts so distance is ok, then add glasses for short range stuff only, without having to remove the contacts.

They do but I don;t feel the need for them.

> >> >> > I think it;'s lack of depth of field is the cause.
> >> >> Most common problem, the eye muscles weaken with age. Run Folding@Home they're doing research into eye muscles.
> >> >> > My brother has always work glasses well since leaving school.
> >> >> > I just by the cheap ones in Aldi or wherever they seem OK.
> >> >> Yip, you just need to know the power of each lens required, no need for opticians. As your eyes change you buy the next one up. Not sure if you can get glasses in Aldi that have a different lens for each eye? Or can you swap the lenses yourself?
> >> >
> >> > No idea +1.5 or + 2 are my preferred ones, I have about 5 from +1 to +3 , the pair at work are +1.5
> >> > don;t think Aldi to them with different lenses for each eye.
> >> Do the lenses look like you could buy two similar pairs of different power and swap one of the lenses over?
> >
> > They don't look easy to take out.
> >
> >> >> >> I have ridiculously high resolution eyesight, I can read the numbers on SMD devices from a fair distance when others are using magnifying glasses.
> >> >> > Those can be easier to see than the grey text on 74 series chips.
> >> >> You just need to move the light source or tilt the chip for those. They reflect too much.
> >> >
> >> > Yes the light source is important..
> >> I like strip lights, no shadows.
> >
> > We have magnifying glasses with a ring of LED's called helping hands with 3 croc-clips for holding things,
> > makes soldering so much easier .
> Yes I use those, but without the LED ring. I have decent room lighting anyway. I've got 200 watts of LEDs (which would be equivalent to 1.5kW of incandescent) in my living room which is 7m x 3.5m. Plus some UV lights as the parrots can see UV.

I don't do much soldering at home, have LEDs lighting at work now sure what the rating is but I tend to have them dimmed a bit anyway.

> >> >> >> >> >> > For me that's proof that time travel can't be done.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> No it isn't. Probably just not invented yet.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > But if you can travel forward in time then the future has alreay happened.
> >> >> >> No, it will have happened when you get there, but not for someone who didn't travel. Time is not exactly the same everywhere.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > It can't be like that as the place/person has to exist before you get there.
> >> >> If you think of it as another dimension like distance, it all becomes clear. You're driving along a really long road, others are further ahead, others are further behind. You see different scenery to others. But you know when you get further along, you'll see different things. You wouldn't say "those things don't exist I can't see them". You know others are already seeing them and you will later. And of course you can change the speed of travel, or even go the other way.
> >> >
> >> > Yes people are already there at that point.
> >> And the same applies to time travel. If I'm about to go 5 years into the future, that future does already exist, it's just 5 years away in that dimension, and nobody you know from this time can see it yet unless they travel in time.
> >
> > Something like spacetime , if yuo travel forward in time you also have to travel in distance too.
> Why? If you travel north you don't have to go a bit east too.


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> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday, 13 August 2022 at 00:18:59 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 14:08:34 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >> > I klnew a few couples like that not married but been together over 25+ years.
> >> >> > It's not like they don;t have arguments it;'s just that they seem to work things out.
> >> >> 1 in 3 marriages end in divorce.
> >> >
> >> > Pretty useless stat. really has little meaning nowerdays.
> >> It means what it's always meant, maths hasn't changed that much. It means 1000 people get divorced and 2000 live happily. Not good numbers.
> >
> > What about those that a separated, or just married but don't live together.
> That's hardly a successful marriage.

Depends what you mean by successful marriage.
I have known of a few marriages for passports have taken place some are still married although they have no contact with each other.

Even the GF I had in the band was going to marry a guy named dave, I'd heard this romour and when I asked her about it she said yes
it's gay dave he agreed to marry me so I can get a english passport , I said that won;t work he;s scottich so youd have a scottish passport.
She was a bit confused at the point but I had to explain that is was a joke and that;s she;s have a EU passport.
After we split she found herself an Engish BF and a year later she married him , I was the photographer and the cocktail maker at her wedding.
She made the punch lots of loverly alcohol but insisted it was springled with a few grams of speed.

They aren't together now she is back in finland and isna facebook friend, no idea what happened to him though.

> >> >> >> >> And why did you go out with them if they were annoying?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Well it was fun.
> >> >> >> > One french GF said that when she gets married and has children she doesn't want her husband to be the father of her children as that would give him power over her.
> >> >> >> > She wasn't referring to me, well I don't think so.
> >> >> >> Wow. She wants to get pregnant with John and marry Jim? What happens when John wants to see the kids?
> >> >> > John would never know he had kids so wouldn't be a problem I assume.
> >> >> Until Jim says something, and the kids start hunting down their real dad.
> >> >
> >> > If, Jim might not know or care.
> >> I guess she'd have to time things right.
> >
> > wouldn't be to difficult, but I did find the 'logic a bit odd, but she was french and female they all seems a bit weird,
> > well most of the ones I've met anyway.
> A French exchange student (who was supposed to help teach us French) when I was at school fucked one of my friends in the swimming pool. For some reason they actually drained it and cleaned it! Don't think she got into much trouble, they weren't obsessed with ages back then.

They kept having to drain our pool as someone that hatted swimming kept throwing a brick though the window and glass would end up ion teh pool.
Happened quite a few times .

> >> >> >> One of my girlfriends was married with 4 kids. She kept thinking about leaving him for me, but living in a seperate house nearby as two people, 15 parrots, and 4 kids in one house would be a fucking mess.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Yeah 4 kids , an Irish GF said she wanted to have 5 daughters as she was one of 5 girls.
> >> >> > Closests I;ve ever come to a heart attack was when she cuddeld up to me saying I'd really like 5 children.. all girls...
> >> >> Like you can control if they're girls. Could have an abortion if they're the wrong one I guess.
> >> >
> >> > I wouldn;t of cared what gender they were but 5 is far too many I was thuinking cloers to zero.
> >> I'd like one. Be better to give it your full attention.
> >
> > I think 2 is a good number, 3 perhaps .
> You said closer to zero a minute ago.

For me personally yes ZERO , but gernally speaking for the good of the kids they need a sibling or two.

> >> > Little evidence of that it's why so many are obsese.
> >> That's the amount not the type.
> >
> > it's the amount of fat, sugar and salt in processed food, that is the problem.
> Bollocks. Calories are calories. People are fat or thin based on genetics.. We need to stop the unhealthy blobs breeding.

genetics is 30-70% of it, and it;s down top gut and other bacteria. Theres a process that's been discovered over the last few years that involves
fecal translpants that's taking shit cells from one peron and putting them in another
and this changes gut bactreria which can have a significant effect or cure obese people, it;s also possible to
help irradicate some cancer cells although it's still in the early testing.

check out the southpark episode Turd burglers ;-)


Why are there more unhealthy blods and fat isn't just fat there is at least two types I know of brown and white fat.

> >> > >after all animals in the wild often don't get a choice.
> >> >
> >> > They do, animals can usually eat what is aviable if the right food suff doesn't exist then the species doesn't survive
> >> > It's what survival of the fitest really means it's not about who is the stonger indivudual.
> >> I doubt any animal knows which food is better for it. It eats what's available or tasty.
> >
> > They do they have senses and experience.
> > Some get it wrong, but generally in the wild they are OK.
> > They have eyes and a nose they can use.
> They know what's poisonous, but I doubt they have a grasp of vitamins.

They don;t need to, this is why horses and even dogs eat their own shit as they know they contain something they need
that isn's passed to them in the first 'eating'.

Dogs will eat other dogs shit if they smell that it contains high levels of the things they need.
Some dogs get fed healthy dieds and they stuill shit out so called good protiens.

It happens with many animals .

> >> >> > Ah those were the days,
> >> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LIpFTM8q3s
> >> >> They should bring back the belt.
> >> >
> >> > Yeah I bought it one of my whips to enforce socail distancing ;-)
> >> One of your whips? How many do you got?
> >
> > Just two, they were bought for me a sort of joke thing.Never really used them on anyone.
> "Never really"? So sort of?

Well tried cracking it a few times I'm not that good at it and it was only done na few times.
Such as in Oi where's my breakfast luv .

> >> >> >> > Some people can't control their emotions or acts.
> >> >> >> What's your opinion on nudist camps then?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Don't really have one I went not my sort of thing I guess.
> >> >> Clothes are irrational.
> >> >
> >> > I use mine for keeping my keys 2 bunches, 4-6 cards, a bit of money and that's just to get to work.
> >> My housekey is attached to my wrist strap, a little RFID tag. For money you only need 1 card, or even just your phone.
> >
> > were would o keep your phone ?
> You can get arm pouches for phones. I have one, but I've only ever used it to carry a chocolate bar in a marathon - my secret weapon!

Why do marathon runners wear so many clothes and don;t chocaolate bars melt in the heat.
I klnow the runners and cyclists have gel packs for energy often wondered how they legistale such things.

> >> > Don;t think I could cope this weather being naked pretty hot in london and the heat reflecting off the concrete .
> >> > Then there's the risk of sunburn.
> >> WTF? At 41C with clothes on you'd be soaked with sweat. Naked means it can evaporate. And your skin adjusts to UV levels, it's called a tan.
> >
> > It's called being burnt, skin cancer.
> A myth.

A reality.

> How can a natural thing be bad for you? Suntan is your skin adkusting the amount that gets through.

and even over that last 30 years more UVA and UVB has been getting through due to the destruction of the ozone layer.

> > Strange how the muslim countries cope with wearing lots of cloths in hot weather, it's actually cooler wearing things like cotten. Sweat keeps you cool.
> It needs to evaporate. When your shirt is soaked with sweat, remove it. You will immediately feel cooler.


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On Tuesday, 16 August 2022 at 00:27:20 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 13:02:14 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 01:35:04 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 01:11:30 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Sunday, 14 August 2022 at 04:40:39 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > ---stuff I'll answer later---
> >> >>
> >> >> You're up at 3:30am! You're getting as bad as me.
> >> >too hot to sleep, not to keen on this hot weather 30C at 2am in my room.
> >> Get an air conditioner like me. I can't sleep above 20C. Only cost me £400. It's fucking wonderful to have ice cold air being blasted into the house.
> >I did jave a portable one , the ones I've seen made a lot of noise so I couldn;t sleep due to the noise .
> > But I guess yuo get used to the noise.
> You turn it off at night, make the house cool enough before you go to bed..

Wonder why they didn;t do that in Athens which is where I was, noise bloody ting it I wasn;t even in the same room as it.

>
> > Which do you have ?
>
> This: https://apnardeal.com/ads/chigo-1-5-ton-portable-air-conditioner-ac-15000-btu/

Maybe I'll get one next time not much point now but it looks a bit big and bulky.

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On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 13:36:52 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 21:05:31 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 01:09:46 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 00:23:52 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:06:04 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Friday, 12 August 2022 at 22:42:25 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 13:41:45 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> > But what if the wind blows you off course of the chute wasn;t corectly packed in the first place.
>> >> >> It's up to you to account for wind, you're taught that. Incorrectly packed chutes ain't gonna happen from people who've done it thousands of times. If they do, it'll be obvious that's why it went wrong, and you'd come down on your secondary chute.
>> >> >
>> >> > Two chutes seems a bit of crazy elf and sofety if it doesn;t happen much.
>> >> It happens often, very easy to tangle the first chute. I tangled mine on the second jump, it was very windy, almost windy enough for them to abandon the jump, I leapt out of the plane and was hit by a strong gust of wind which made me and the parachute face different directions. I spun round several times, realised the problem, looked up and saw the twisted lines, and kicked to spin myself the other way. I was congratulated on good control. If that had failed I would haven needed the second chute.
>> >
>> > Interesting not sure if I'd like it, I don't like heights on a ladder or looking directly down when on a tall building,
>> > but being on a plane I'm OK.
>> > I think that's the difference of vertigo and heights.
>> > A friend of mine gets dizzy when looking up at tall building but is OK looking down from one.
>> When I was 4000 feet in the air, looking down didn't seem high, the ground was so small it just looked like some kind of model setup. And hanging from the chute with steering controls, I felt more like I was in a vehicle than floating mid air.
>> >> >> > I'ts also a perception on what is perfectly fine.
>> >> >> > Most people that drink and drive never really think oh I;'m too drunk to drive.
>> >> >> I know I'm not due to the quality of driving that ensued.
>> >> >
>> >> > Strange that , alcohol is known to affect people perception.
>> >> It's lies damn lies and statistics. You can feel yourself concentrating better for the first few drinks before it goes downhill. It actually improves your health too unless you're more than FOUR times over the recommended amount.
>> >
>> > yeah the recommenced amount is a bit odd, I've only seen double once but didn;t feel as drunk as on a few other occasions.
>> As I drink more far away things become slightly out of focus, but not bad enough cause a problem. I thought my sight was going until I realised it was ok on the rare occasion I was sober.
>
> I don;t remmeber focussing being an issue but co-ordination & balance could a bit off.

My balance is good, first time I ever got drunk as a teenager, my friend fell over when trying to punch me. I just sidestepped and watched him land flat on his face. We had both drunk the same and he was bigger than me.

> Certain types of women became more attractive as I drank more which can be a problem.

Odd, that didn't change for me.

>> The RDA is good for you. Double the RDA is even better for you. Triple the RDA is the same for you as the RDA. Quadruple the RDA is the same as being T-Total. Only after that you go downhill.
>
> Not sure how true that is as many people are efectivley T-total of just don;t drink due to culture. They seem to cope with life without drink alcohol.
> Don;t forget it's an allowence and not something you must have.

It's supposed to reduce the risk of heart problems if you have it in moderation.

>> >> >> > I can get sleepy after drinking a lot, used to do that at work too, falling asleep after lunchtime and that was after 5 pints of snakebite & black.
>> >> >> Ah sleep, sleep has been proven to cause as many accidents as drinking. Yet you don't see thousands one for sleepy driving.
>> >> >
>> >> > It happens.
>> >> I meant "done" not "one".
>> > OK
>> >
>> >> >> I cannot fall asleep at the wheel. I can only sleep when perfectly motionless and horizontal and not thinking about anything. Why on earth would you fall asleep when concentrating on the car and sitting upright!?
>> >> >
>> >> > People have fallen asleep at the wheel.
>> >> Inferior people. Why would you fall asleep when concentrating and not in a bed? Do you also do a shit when your trousers aren't down and you're not sitting on the throne?
>> >
>> > I haven't but know someone that did. I think the beer was off I could hardly finish the first pint.
>> > A few 100 years ago in london you could rent a place to sleep and the cheapest ones they stood you up tied a rope around you so you
>> > wouldn;t fall down . They could pack more people in a room that way. think is was the 1700-1800s saw it on TV.
>> I'd had to have missed a few night's sleep before that would work for me.
>> >> >> >> > I wear reading glasses when on the computer, just makes things easier than enlarging the text a little.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Do you have poor eyesight?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Don;t think so, can't easily tell some colours on resistors without glasses.
>> >> >> Then you have poor eyesight.
>> >> >
>> >> > Lots of people have poor eyesight then but it doesn;t stop most of us doing things.
>> >> It must be a major inconvenience. I would never wear specs, I'd get contacts or laser surgery.
>> >
>> > Thought about both but laser surgery sometimes needs doing again after 5+ years.
>> > I can really watch TV with reading glasses on so not sure I;'d like contacts for just reading.
>> Don't you get varifocal contacts? Or do what my Aunt does. Contacts so distance is ok, then add glasses for short range stuff only, without having to remove the contacts.
>
> They do but I don;t feel the need for them.

Well if you only need glasses for short range, no point in contacts.

>> >> >> > I think it;'s lack of depth of field is the cause.
>> >> >> Most common problem, the eye muscles weaken with age. Run Folding@Home they're doing research into eye muscles.
>> >> >> > My brother has always work glasses well since leaving school.
>> >> >> > I just by the cheap ones in Aldi or wherever they seem OK.
>> >> >> Yip, you just need to know the power of each lens required, no need for opticians. As your eyes change you buy the next one up. Not sure if you can get glasses in Aldi that have a different lens for each eye? Or can you swap the lenses yourself?
>> >> >
>> >> > No idea +1.5 or + 2 are my preferred ones, I have about 5 from +1 to +3 , the pair at work are +1.5
>> >> > don;t think Aldi to them with different lenses for each eye.
>> >> Do the lenses look like you could buy two similar pairs of different power and swap one of the lenses over?
>> >
>> > They don't look easy to take out.
>> >
>> >> >> >> I have ridiculously high resolution eyesight, I can read the numbers on SMD devices from a fair distance when others are using magnifying glasses.
>> >> >> > Those can be easier to see than the grey text on 74 series chips.
>> >> >> You just need to move the light source or tilt the chip for those. They reflect too much.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes the light source is important..
>> >> I like strip lights, no shadows.
>> >
>> > We have magnifying glasses with a ring of LED's called helping hands with 3 croc-clips for holding things,
>> > makes soldering so much easier .
>> Yes I use those, but without the LED ring. I have decent room lighting anyway. I've got 200 watts of LEDs (which would be equivalent to 1.5kW of incandescent) in my living room which is 7m x 3.5m. Plus some UV lights as the parrots can see UV.
>
> I don't do much soldering at home, have LEDs lighting at work now sure what the rating is but I tend to have them dimmed a bit anyway.
>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > For me that's proof that time travel can't be done.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> No it isn't. Probably just not invented yet.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > But if you can travel forward in time then the future has alreay happened.
>> >> >> >> No, it will have happened when you get there, but not for someone who didn't travel. Time is not exactly the same everywhere.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > It can't be like that as the place/person has to exist before you get there.
>> >> >> If you think of it as another dimension like distance, it all becomes clear. You're driving along a really long road, others are further ahead, others are further behind. You see different scenery to others. But you know when you get further along, you'll see different things. You wouldn't say "those things don't exist I can't see them". You know others are already seeing them and you will later. And of course you can change the speed of travel, or even go the other way.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes people are already there at that point.
>> >> And the same applies to time travel. If I'm about to go 5 years into the future, that future does already exist, it's just 5 years away in that dimension, and nobody you know from this time can see it yet unless they travel in time.
>> >
>> > Something like spacetime , if yuo travel forward in time you also have to travel in distance too.
>> Why? If you travel north you don't have to go a bit east too.
>
> But you do as the earth is rotating and the earth is orbiting the sun and orbiting our galaxy and the universe is expanding.
> So if I go back to find van goth the earth was in a differnt part of the galaxy to what it is now.
> The only real way to achive that is to bend space and therefor bent time is using gravity .


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 by: Whisky-dave - Sun, 21 Aug 2022 00:16 UTC

On Wednesday, 17 August 2022 at 02:18:58 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 13:36:52 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

> > I don;t remmeber focussing being an issue but co-ordination & balance could a bit off.
> My balance is good, first time I ever got drunk as a teenager, my friend fell over when trying to punch me. I just sidestepped and watched him land flat on his face. We had both drunk the same and he was bigger than me.

I think its quite common to loose balance seen plenty of videos of people falling over.
It's where the term legless comes from I guess.
A greek student that was quite large and tubby, when we took for a drink he started it get pissed after 1/2 pint.
After a pint he had to sit down.
A friend of mine tried vodka and he started to get violent and argumentative it's the only think he reacts badly too, he can drink
6 pints of beer without a problem. Another Irish friend whos normally really quiet and shy talks endlessly and loudly after a few pints
it can get really annoying he starts hugging friends and saying I love you and gets emotional.

> > Certain types of women became more attractive as I drank more which can be a problem.
> Odd, that didn't change for me.
> >> The RDA is good for you. Double the RDA is even better for you. Triple the RDA is the same for you as the RDA. Quadruple the RDA is the same as being T-Total. Only after that you go downhill.
> >
> > Not sure how true that is as many people are efectivley T-total of just don;t drink due to culture. They seem to cope with life without drink alcohol.
> > Don;t forget it's an allowence and not something you must have.
> It's supposed to reduce the risk of heart problems if you have it in moderation.

Lots of things seem to be good for you in moderation coffee, dark chocolate..
> >> >> > Yes people are already there at that point.
> >> >> And the same applies to time travel. If I'm about to go 5 years into the future, that future does already exist, it's just 5 years away in that dimension, and nobody you know from this time can see it yet unless they travel in time.
> >> >
> >> > Something like spacetime , if yuo travel forward in time you also have to travel in distance too.
> >> Why? If you travel north you don't have to go a bit east too.
> >
> > But you do as the earth is rotating and the earth is orbiting the sun and orbiting our galaxy and the universe is expanding.
> > So if I go back to find van goth the earth was in a differnt part of the galaxy to what it is now.
> > The only real way to achive that is to bend space and therefor bent time is using gravity .
> Depends what the physical point of reference is when time travelling. Do you end up in the same place relative to a local mass like the earth, or relative to the centre of the universe?

Not sure but the earth moves even rotation so if you go forward 6 months , I think you must also move too as the Earth is on the opposite. side of the sun.

> >> >> >> >> >> >> Why travel back all the way to now when the lottery winnings are smaller?
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Invest it, I;d go back and offer say van goth a few shilling for his sunflower or other stuff that no one wanted to buy.
> >> >> >> >> >> > I don;t think he sold any pictures of his own during his life.
> >> >> >> >> >> Good point, invest it in the past then go forwards and collect the interest. In fact all you need to do is take some money you have now, go back as far as you can when those coins/notes are still valid, pay it into a bank account, then go forwards and take it out with interest.
> >> >> >> >> >Yeah I've got a few components in the lab maybe I'll build a time machine ;-)
> >> >> >> >> I found some 64kbit RAM chips, want them? 16 pin DIL.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Think I already have asome of those thanks.
> >> >> >> I can't think of what to do with them, I think they'll get recycled. No idea if they recycle individual chips. Melt them down into basic elements?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Some have gold on the pins I know there's not much but it seems worth doing for old chips and connectors.
> >> >> They're in my "blue box" for the council. They stopped collecting it, but next time I take hedge clippings to the skip I'll ask. Also got busted hard disks, computer fans, USB sticks, etc.
> >> >
> >> > we have an electrical waste bin at work for such things.
> >> > I have hard drives, one day I'll remove the circuit boards add some surface mount LEDs and a small battery and flashing circuit
> >> > and frame it as art. Not sure I'll win a turner prize but one day I'll get around to it.
> >> A hard disk is very good for concealing marijuana. They're hermetically sealed so a dog won't smell it, and nobody at an airport would open one.
> >
> > But they could ask you to start it up,
> It could just be a plain 3.5" disk with no way to talk to it.
> and x-rays can see oddities in such a think.
> They can't get through steel.

There must be some way or it'd be done on a large scale.

> > Who carries HDs norwerdays anyway most have SSDs .
> Depends on the capacity.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> But the girl looks way sexier with rock hard nipples..
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I quite like them dressed in PVC or latex , not so keen on leather.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't like plastic, it's too artificial. Skimpy denim is better.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/photos/ariel-winter/heading-to-a-salon-in-west-hollywood/Ariel-Winter-in-Skimpy-Denim-Shorts--18.jpg
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > I don;t like blue denim black is OK.
> >> >> >> >> >> Why?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Not sure maybe it;s the sort that waer blue denim .
> >> >> >> >> I like girls in denim that's falling apart.
> >> >> >> >> > I'ts like a really don't like denim that was featured by dexis midnight runners , don't like track suits either.
> >> >> >> >> The cheap shit plastic ones (shell suits?) are usually worn by people more likely to want a shag.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The ali-G type , I just find people in those funny.
> >> >> >> Or hot.
> >> >> >> https://www.hotmilkvintage.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/39.jpg
> >> >> >> You'd give her one wouldn't you? And you can probably rip that shellsuit right off if you're in a hurry.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Not sure I'd bother.
> >> >> You're not right in the head. I can see her being a right horny thing in bed and doing it all night.
> >> >
> >> > I just don;t find that look sexy.
> >> What she's wearing isn't really relevant anyway, it's what she looks like underneath.
> >
> > Could be pregnant ?. If she has a nice figure why hide it in plastic bag.
> It's not plastic. Plastic is the crap you showed me them wearing in the club.
Mostly PVC and things like it .

> >> >> >> >> I once jump started a car for a woman when her boyfriend had deliberately flattened the battery, and she asked if I wanted paid in sex! And of course I said yes, she was a bit older than me but really fit.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Perhaps I should have gone to TG's last friday .
> >> >> >> >> >> >> What is TG's?
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > https://www.torturegarden.com/best-of-torture-garden/
> >> >> >> >> >> I don't see the point of all that plastic, they'd look better naked.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > It's what you don't see that keeps the interest.
> >> >> >> >> Rubbish. Why use your imagination when you can have the real thing?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > then why are nudist beaches so boring.
> >> >> >> They aren't. They're the same as normal beaches but with more freedom and the ability to enjoy the looks of others.
> >> >> >Not sure I'd be really interested there's one in Brighton. I know there's one in germany that a friends has been to.
> >> >> I do not understand the desire to be clothed, it just isn't natural..
> >> >
> >> > Most people wear cloths it;s practical.
> >> No it isn't, it's a pointless hassle.
> >
> > Not since we evolved from apes.
> It's hardly evolution to require something extra.


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 by: Commander Kinsey - Sun, 21 Aug 2022 21:01 UTC

On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:16:18 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 23:46:40 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Saturday, 13 August 2022 at 00:18:59 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 14:08:34 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> > I klnew a few couples like that not married but been together over 25+ years.
>> >> >> > It's not like they don;t have arguments it;'s just that they seem to work things out.
>> >> >> 1 in 3 marriages end in divorce.
>> >> >
>> >> > Pretty useless stat. really has little meaning nowerdays.
>> >> It means what it's always meant, maths hasn't changed that much. It means 1000 people get divorced and 2000 live happily. Not good numbers.
>> >
>> > What about those that a separated, or just married but don't live together.
>> That's hardly a successful marriage.
>
> Depends what you mean by successful marriage.
> I have known of a few marriages for passports have taken place some are still married although they have no contact with each other.

I'm talking about a partner you live with and fuck.

> Even the GF I had in the band was going to marry a guy named dave, I'd heard this romour and when I asked her about it she said yes
> it's gay dave he agreed to marry me so I can get a english passport , I said that won;t work he;s scottich so youd have a scottish passport.
> She was a bit confused at the point but I had to explain that is was a joke and that;s she;s have a EU passport.
> After we split she found herself an Engish BF and a year later she married him , I was the photographer and the cocktail maker at her wedding.
> She made the punch lots of loverly alcohol but insisted it was springled with a few grams of speed.
>
> They aren't together now she is back in finland and isna facebook friend, no idea what happened to him though.

ROFL! You meet interesting people.

>> >> >> >> >> And why did you go out with them if they were annoying?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Well it was fun.
>> >> >> >> > One french GF said that when she gets married and has children she doesn't want her husband to be the father of her children as that would give him power over her.
>> >> >> >> > She wasn't referring to me, well I don't think so.
>> >> >> >> Wow. She wants to get pregnant with John and marry Jim? What happens when John wants to see the kids?
>> >> >> > John would never know he had kids so wouldn't be a problem I assume.
>> >> >> Until Jim says something, and the kids start hunting down their real dad.
>> >> >
>> >> > If, Jim might not know or care.
>> >> I guess she'd have to time things right.
>> >
>> > wouldn't be to difficult, but I did find the 'logic a bit odd, but she was french and female they all seems a bit weird,
>> > well most of the ones I've met anyway.
>> A French exchange student (who was supposed to help teach us French) when I was at school fucked one of my friends in the swimming pool. For some reason they actually drained it and cleaned it! Don't think she got into much trouble, they weren't obsessed with ages back then.
>
> They kept having to drain our pool as someone that hatted swimming kept throwing a brick though the window and glass would end up ion teh pool.
> Happened quite a few times .

Just send someone in with a dustpan and brush.

When I were a lad near Dundee (rough place where they set fire to police cars) someone decided it would be funny to jam a razor blade in the join in one of the water slides.

>> >> >> >> One of my girlfriends was married with 4 kids. She kept thinking about leaving him for me, but living in a seperate house nearby as two people, 15 parrots, and 4 kids in one house would be a fucking mess.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Yeah 4 kids , an Irish GF said she wanted to have 5 daughters as she was one of 5 girls.
>> >> >> > Closests I;ve ever come to a heart attack was when she cuddeld up to me saying I'd really like 5 children.. all girls...
>> >> >> Like you can control if they're girls. Could have an abortion if they're the wrong one I guess.
>> >> >
>> >> > I wouldn;t of cared what gender they were but 5 is far too many I was thuinking cloers to zero.
>> >> I'd like one. Be better to give it your full attention.
>> >
>> > I think 2 is a good number, 3 perhaps .
>> You said closer to zero a minute ago.
>
> For me personally yes ZERO, but generally speaking for the good of the kids they need a sibling or two.

Single kids I know are much happier. More attention more money sent on them, bigger inheritance. Most kids prefer friends not siblings.

>> >> > Little evidence of that it's why so many are obsese.
>> >> That's the amount not the type.
>> >
>> > it's the amount of fat, sugar and salt in processed food, that is the problem.
>> Bollocks. Calories are calories. People are fat or thin based on genetics. We need to stop the unhealthy blobs breeding.
>
> genetics is 30-70% of it, and it;s down top gut and other bacteria. Theres a process that's been discovered over the last few years that involves
> fecal translpants that's taking shit cells from one peron and putting them in another
> and this changes gut bactreria which can have a significant effect or cure obese people, it;s also possible to
> help irradicate some cancer cells although it's still in the early testing.

But that gut bacteria depends on your genes too presumably. If you see fat parents, chances are the kids are fat too.

> check out the southpark episode Turd burglers ;-)

I hate that program.

> Why are there more unhealthy blods and fat isn't just fat there is at least two types I know of brown and white fat.

Brown fat is what stops you being a sissy in cold water.

>> >> > >after all animals in the wild often don't get a choice.
>> >> >
>> >> > They do, animals can usually eat what is aviable if the right food suff doesn't exist then the species doesn't survive
>> >> > It's what survival of the fitest really means it's not about who is the stonger indivudual.
>> >> I doubt any animal knows which food is better for it. It eats what's available or tasty.
>> >
>> > They do they have senses and experience.
>> > Some get it wrong, but generally in the wild they are OK.
>> > They have eyes and a nose they can use.
>> They know what's poisonous, but I doubt they have a grasp of vitamins.
>
> They don;t need to, this is why horses and even dogs eat their own shit as they know they contain something they need
> that isn's passed to them in the first 'eating'.
>
> Dogs will eat other dogs shit if they smell that it contains high levels of the things they need.
> Some dogs get fed healthy dieds and they stuill shit out so called good protiens.
>
> It happens with many animals .

And us. I can smell what's good for me. We also get a desire for a certain food, I bet that's our brain requiring certain nutrients.

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On Sunday, 21 August 2022 at 22:01:20 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:16:18 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 23:46:40 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Saturday, 13 August 2022 at 00:18:59 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 14:08:34 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> >> > I klnew a few couples like that not married but been together over 25+ years.
> >> >> >> > It's not like they don;t have arguments it;'s just that they seem to work things out.
> >> >> >> 1 in 3 marriages end in divorce.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Pretty useless stat. really has little meaning nowerdays.
> >> >> It means what it's always meant, maths hasn't changed that much. It means 1000 people get divorced and 2000 live happily. Not good numbers.
> >> >
> >> > What about those that a separated, or just married but don't live together.
> >> That's hardly a successful marriage.
> >
> > Depends what you mean by successful marriage.
> > I have known of a few marriages for passports have taken place some are still married although they have no contact with each other.
> I'm talking about a partner you live with and fuck.

That's not the defintion of marriage though.
So when looking at marriage stats it doesn;t mean what poee think it does.

> > Even the GF I had in the band was going to marry a guy named dave, I'd heard this romour and when I asked her about it she said yes
> > it's gay dave he agreed to marry me so I can get a english passport , I said that won;t work he;s scottich so youd have a scottish passport.
> > She was a bit confused at the point but I had to explain that is was a joke and that;s she;s have a EU passport.
> > After we split she found herself an Engish BF and a year later she married him , I was the photographer and the cocktail maker at her wedding.
> > She made the punch lots of loverly alcohol but insisted it was springled with a few grams of speed.
> >
> > They aren't together now she is back in finland and isna facebook friend, no idea what happened to him though.
> ROFL! You meet interesting people.

Yeah a line of fun, wierd or problematic.

Talking of which my ex french flatmate told me she is moving in with her boyfriend she says they have the same mentality.
Sounds like a disaster about to happen.

> > They kept having to drain our pool as someone that hatted swimming kept throwing a brick though the window and glass would end up ion teh pool.
> > Happened quite a few times .
> Just send someone in with a dustpan and brush.

Not sure those work underwater.

>
> When I were a lad near Dundee (rough place where they set fire to police cars) someone decided it would be funny to jam a razor blade in the join in one of the water slides.

Strange the way those of lower IQ have a differnt sense of humour.

> >> >> >> >> One of my girlfriends was married with 4 kids. She kept thinking about leaving him for me, but living in a seperate house nearby as two people, 15 parrots, and 4 kids in one house would be a fucking mess.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Yeah 4 kids , an Irish GF said she wanted to have 5 daughters as she was one of 5 girls.
> >> >> >> > Closests I;ve ever come to a heart attack was when she cuddeld up to me saying I'd really like 5 children.. all girls...
> >> >> >> Like you can control if they're girls. Could have an abortion if they're the wrong one I guess.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I wouldn;t of cared what gender they were but 5 is far too many I was thuinking cloers to zero.
> >> >> I'd like one. Be better to give it your full attention.
> >> >
> >> > I think 2 is a good number, 3 perhaps .
> >> You said closer to zero a minute ago.
> >
> > For me personally yes ZERO, but generally speaking for the good of the kids they need a sibling or two.
>
> Single kids I know are much happier. More attention more money sent on them, bigger inheritance. Most kids prefer friends not siblings.

Not in the early years.

> >> >> > Little evidence of that it's why so many are obsese.
> >> >> That's the amount not the type.
> >> >
> >> > it's the amount of fat, sugar and salt in processed food, that is the problem.
> >> Bollocks. Calories are calories. People are fat or thin based on genetics. We need to stop the unhealthy blobs breeding.
> >
> > genetics is 30-70% of it, and it;s down top gut and other bacteria. Theres a process that's been discovered over the last few years that involves
> > fecal translpants that's taking shit cells from one peron and putting them in another
> > and this changes gut bactreria which can have a significant effect or cure obese people, it;s also possible to
> > help irradicate some cancer cells although it's still in the early testing.
> But that gut bacteria depends on your genes too presumably. If you see fat parents, chances are the kids are fat too.

Yes you can inherit fatness just like you can inteligence or athleticism and many other things.

> > check out the southpark episode Turd burglers ;-)
> I hate that program.

Why ?

> > Why are there more unhealthy blods and fat isn't just fat there is at least two types I know of brown and white fat.
> Brown fat is what stops you being a sissy in cold water.

Where do you get that idea from ?

> >> >> > >after all animals in the wild often don't get a choice.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > They do, animals can usually eat what is aviable if the right food suff doesn't exist then the species doesn't survive
> >> >> > It's what survival of the fitest really means it's not about who is the stonger indivudual.
> >> >> I doubt any animal knows which food is better for it. It eats what's available or tasty.
> >> >
> >> > They do they have senses and experience.
> >> > Some get it wrong, but generally in the wild they are OK.
> >> > They have eyes and a nose they can use.
> >> They know what's poisonous, but I doubt they have a grasp of vitamins.
> >
> > They don;t need to, this is why horses and even dogs eat their own shit as they know they contain something they need
> > that isn's passed to them in the first 'eating'.
> >
> > Dogs will eat other dogs shit if they smell that it contains high levels of the things they need.
> > Some dogs get fed healthy dieds and they stuill shit out so called good protiens.
> >
> > It happens with many animals .
> And us. I can smell what's good for me. We also get a desire for a certain food, I bet that's our brain requiring certain nutrients.

True but we can also get it wrong.

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On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:19:12 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, 16 August 2022 at 00:27:20 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 13:02:14 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 01:35:04 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 01:11:30 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Sunday, 14 August 2022 at 04:40:39 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail..com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > ---stuff I'll answer later---
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You're up at 3:30am! You're getting as bad as me.
>> >> >too hot to sleep, not to keen on this hot weather 30C at 2am in my room.
>> >> Get an air conditioner like me. I can't sleep above 20C. Only cost me £400. It's fucking wonderful to have ice cold air being blasted into the house.
>> >I did jave a portable one , the ones I've seen made a lot of noise so I couldn;t sleep due to the noise .
>> > But I guess yuo get used to the noise.
>> You turn it off at night, make the house cool enough before you go to bed.
>
> Wonder why they didn;t do that in Athens which is where I was, noise bloody ting it I wasn;t even in the same room as it.

Maybe it wasn't powerful enough to cool it rapidly during the evening.

>> > Which do you have ?
>>
>> This: https://apnardeal.com/ads/chigo-1-5-ton-portable-air-conditioner-ac-15000-btu/
>
> Maybe I'll get one next time not much point now but it looks a bit big and bulky.

It's about two thirds of the width of a washing machine. And quite loud.. To get something powerful and quiet is over a grand, that was only £400.

And don't pay for professional fitting. The one I linked to is portable and ready to run, but when you buy the proper big ones with a part outside and a part inside, you can connect the hoses through your wall yourself then just pay someone to fill it. The pressurizing equipment is a bit expensive to get yourself. Or, some of them are pre-pressurized, with enough spare gas to fill the pipes you connect inbetween.

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On Sun, 21 Aug 2022 01:16:56 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 17 August 2022 at 02:18:58 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 13:36:52 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > I don;t remmeber focussing being an issue but co-ordination & balance could a bit off.
>> My balance is good, first time I ever got drunk as a teenager, my friend fell over when trying to punch me. I just sidestepped and watched him land flat on his face. We had both drunk the same and he was bigger than me.
>
> I think its quite common to loose balance seen plenty of videos of people falling over.
> It's where the term legless comes from I guess.

I don't. I can also persuade anyone (including the police) I've had nothing to drink when I'm several times over the legal limit.

> A greek student that was quite large and tubby, when we took for a drink he started it get pissed after 1/2 pint.
> After a pint he had to sit down.

Weak brain. The friends I had more susceptible to alcohol were the thick ones.

> A friend of mine tried vodka and he started to get violent and argumentative it's the only think he reacts badly too, he can drink
> 6 pints of beer without a problem.

Illogical, it's all ethanol.

> Another Irish friend whos normally really quiet and shy talks endlessly and loudly after a few pints
> it can get really annoying he starts hugging friends and saying I love you and gets emotional.

But the Irish are always like that.

>> > Certain types of women became more attractive as I drank more which can be a problem.
>> Odd, that didn't change for me.
>> >> The RDA is good for you. Double the RDA is even better for you. Triple the RDA is the same for you as the RDA. Quadruple the RDA is the same as being T-Total. Only after that you go downhill.
>> >
>> > Not sure how true that is as many people are efectivley T-total of just don;t drink due to culture. They seem to cope with life without drink alcohol.
>> > Don;t forget it's an allowence and not something you must have.
>> It's supposed to reduce the risk of heart problems if you have it in moderation.
>
> Lots of things seem to be good for you in moderation coffee, dark chocolate.

I hate coffee but love chocolate.

>> >> >> > Yes people are already there at that point.
>> >> >> And the same applies to time travel. If I'm about to go 5 years into the future, that future does already exist, it's just 5 years away in that dimension, and nobody you know from this time can see it yet unless they travel in time.
>> >> >
>> >> > Something like spacetime , if yuo travel forward in time you also have to travel in distance too.
>> >> Why? If you travel north you don't have to go a bit east too.
>> >
>> > But you do as the earth is rotating and the earth is orbiting the sun and orbiting our galaxy and the universe is expanding.
>> > So if I go back to find van goth the earth was in a differnt part of the galaxy to what it is now.
>> > The only real way to achive that is to bend space and therefor bent time is using gravity .
>> Depends what the physical point of reference is when time travelling. Do you end up in the same place relative to a local mass like the earth, or relative to the centre of the universe?
>
> Not sure but the earth moves even rotation so if you go forward 6 months , I think you must also move too as the Earth is on the opposite. side of the sun.

I honestly never thought about this problem before you mentioned it. You had better inform some important physicists.

>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Why travel back all the way to now when the lottery winnings are smaller?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Invest it, I;d go back and offer say van goth a few shilling for his sunflower or other stuff that no one wanted to buy.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > I don;t think he sold any pictures of his own during his life.
>> >> >> >> >> >> Good point, invest it in the past then go forwards and collect the interest. In fact all you need to do is take some money you have now, go back as far as you can when those coins/notes are still valid, pay it into a bank account, then go forwards and take it out with interest.
>> >> >> >> >> >Yeah I've got a few components in the lab maybe I'll build a time machine ;-)
>> >> >> >> >> I found some 64kbit RAM chips, want them? 16 pin DIL.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Think I already have asome of those thanks.
>> >> >> >> I can't think of what to do with them, I think they'll get recycled. No idea if they recycle individual chips. Melt them down into basic elements?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Some have gold on the pins I know there's not much but it seems worth doing for old chips and connectors.
>> >> >> They're in my "blue box" for the council. They stopped collecting it, but next time I take hedge clippings to the skip I'll ask. Also got busted hard disks, computer fans, USB sticks, etc.
>> >> >
>> >> > we have an electrical waste bin at work for such things.
>> >> > I have hard drives, one day I'll remove the circuit boards add some surface mount LEDs and a small battery and flashing circuit
>> >> > and frame it as art. Not sure I'll win a turner prize but one day I'll get around to it.
>> >> A hard disk is very good for concealing marijuana. They're hermetically sealed so a dog won't smell it, and nobody at an airport would open one.
>> >
>> > But they could ask you to start it up,
>> It could just be a plain 3.5" disk with no way to talk to it.
>> and x-rays can see oddities in such a think.
>> They can't get through steel.
>
> There must be some way or it'd be done on a large scale.

It most likely is. Black market dealers are a lot brighter than the law. I know a local drug dealer who outsmarted the police in court. She got let off with "not proven". She makes a living selling "street Valium".

>> > Who carries HDs norwerdays anyway most have SSDs .
>> Depends on the capacity.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> But the girl looks way sexier with rock hard nipples.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I quite like them dressed in PVC or latex , not so keen on leather.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't like plastic, it's too artificial. Skimpy denim is better.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/photos/ariel-winter/heading-to-a-salon-in-west-hollywood/Ariel-Winter-in-Skimpy-Denim-Shorts--18.jpg
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > I don;t like blue denim black is OK.
>> >> >> >> >> >> Why?
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Not sure maybe it;s the sort that waer blue denim .
>> >> >> >> >> I like girls in denim that's falling apart.
>> >> >> >> >> > I'ts like a really don't like denim that was featured by dexis midnight runners , don't like track suits either.
>> >> >> >> >> The cheap shit plastic ones (shell suits?) are usually worn by people more likely to want a shag.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > The ali-G type , I just find people in those funny.
>> >> >> >> Or hot.
>> >> >> >> https://www.hotmilkvintage.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/39.jpg
>> >> >> >> You'd give her one wouldn't you? And you can probably rip that shellsuit right off if you're in a hurry.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Not sure I'd bother.
>> >> >> You're not right in the head. I can see her being a right horny thing in bed and doing it all night.
>> >> >
>> >> > I just don;t find that look sexy.
>> >> What she's wearing isn't really relevant anyway, it's what she looks like underneath.
>> >
>> > Could be pregnant ?. If she has a nice figure why hide it in plastic bag.
>> It's not plastic. Plastic is the crap you showed me them wearing in the club.
> Mostly PVC and things like it .

Yip, that's for plastic bags, not people.

>> >> >> >> >> I once jump started a car for a woman when her boyfriend had deliberately flattened the battery, and she asked if I wanted paid in sex! And of course I said yes, she was a bit older than me but really fit.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Perhaps I should have gone to TG's last friday .
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> What is TG's?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > https://www.torturegarden.com/best-of-torture-garden/
>> >> >> >> >> >> I don't see the point of all that plastic, they'd look better naked.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > It's what you don't see that keeps the interest.
>> >> >> >> >> Rubbish. Why use your imagination when you can have the real thing?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > then why are nudist beaches so boring.
>> >> >> >> They aren't. They're the same as normal beaches but with more freedom and the ability to enjoy the looks of others.
>> >> >> >Not sure I'd be really interested there's one in Brighton. I know there's one in germany that a friends has been to.
>> >> >> I do not understand the desire to be clothed, it just isn't natural.
>> >> >
>> >> > Most people wear cloths it;s practical.
>> >> No it isn't, it's a pointless hassle.
>> >
>> > Not since we evolved from apes.
>> It's hardly evolution to require something extra.
>
> Side effect of losing body hair , having evolved from apes.


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On Wednesday, 24 August 2022 at 06:25:15 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2022 01:16:56 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Wednesday, 17 August 2022 at 02:18:58 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 13:36:52 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> > I don;t remmeber focussing being an issue but co-ordination & balance could a bit off.
> >> My balance is good, first time I ever got drunk as a teenager, my friend fell over when trying to punch me. I just sidestepped and watched him land flat on his face. We had both drunk the same and he was bigger than me.
> >
> > I think its quite common to loose balance seen plenty of videos of people falling over.
> > It's where the term legless comes from I guess.
> I don't. I can also persuade anyone (including the police) I've had nothing to drink when I'm several times over the legal limit.

means nothing, if you're over the limit you are over the limit it's a mathematical fact, persaution as nothing to do with it.

> > A greek student that was quite large and tubby, when we took for a drink he started it get pissed after 1/2 pint.
> > After a pint he had to sit down.
> Weak brain. The friends I had more susceptible to alcohol were the thick ones.

He was one of the cleverest students we've had a built a digitizer for displaying pictures on a BBC computer, he used to show it off at
computer exibitions as it ran and updated the screen with images from the star wars films , it copied everything from an ROM installed in the computer..

I very much doubt intoxication has any link to inteligence other than the less inteligent tend to believe it.


> > A friend of mine tried vodka and he started to get violent and argumentative it's the only think he reacts badly too, he can drink
> > 6 pints of beer without a problem.
> Illogical, it's all ethanol.

He can drink whisky and just about any other spirit without becoming angry ..

> > Another Irish friend whos normally really quiet and shy talks endlessly and loudly after a few pints
> > it can get really annoying he starts hugging friends and saying I love you and gets emotional.
> But the Irish are always like that.

That could be true

> >> > Certain types of women became more attractive as I drank more which can be a problem.
> >> Odd, that didn't change for me.
> >> >> The RDA is good for you. Double the RDA is even better for you. Triple the RDA is the same for you as the RDA. Quadruple the RDA is the same as being T-Total. Only after that you go downhill.
> >> >
> >> > Not sure how true that is as many people are efectivley T-total of just don;t drink due to culture. They seem to cope with life without drink alcohol.
> >> > Don;t forget it's an allowence and not something you must have.
> >> It's supposed to reduce the risk of heart problems if you have it in moderation.
> >
> > Lots of things seem to be good for you in moderation coffee, dark chocolate.
> I hate coffee but love chocolate.

I know someone that loves coffee but hates coffee flavoured things like ice cream, quality street and the like type sweets.
He threw up once after eating a coffee sweet from a box of roses or similar.. It was quite funny.
> >> >> >> > Yes people are already there at that point.
> >> >> >> And the same applies to time travel. If I'm about to go 5 years into the future, that future does already exist, it's just 5 years away in that dimension, and nobody you know from this time can see it yet unless they travel in time.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Something like spacetime , if yuo travel forward in time you also have to travel in distance too.
> >> >> Why? If you travel north you don't have to go a bit east too.
> >> >
> >> > But you do as the earth is rotating and the earth is orbiting the sun and orbiting our galaxy and the universe is expanding.
> >> > So if I go back to find van goth the earth was in a differnt part of the galaxy to what it is now.
> >> > The only real way to achive that is to bend space and therefor bent time is using gravity .
> >> Depends what the physical point of reference is when time travelling. Do you end up in the same place relative to a local mass like the earth, or relative to the centre of the universe?
> >
> > Not sure but the earth moves even rotation so if you go forward 6 months , I think you must also move too as the Earth is on the opposite. side of the sun.
> I honestly never thought about this problem before you mentioned it. You had better inform some important physicists.

I think they know about it, it also part of the light where a star can be 32 billion light years away but the universe's is only 13.8 billion l years old .
I was reading about it as the james webb telescope first pictures came it.
Can't say I truely understood the paper but sort of got the point that it wasn;t as sinple as I first thought and with gravatational lensing
and redshift which isn;t that difficult to understand.

> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Why travel back all the way to now when the lottery winnings are smaller?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Invest it, I;d go back and offer say van goth a few shilling for his sunflower or other stuff that no one wanted to buy.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I don;t think he sold any pictures of his own during his life.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Good point, invest it in the past then go forwards and collect the interest. In fact all you need to do is take some money you have now, go back as far as you can when those coins/notes are still valid, pay it into a bank account, then go forwards and take it out with interest.
> >> >> >> >> >> >Yeah I've got a few components in the lab maybe I'll build a time machine ;-)
> >> >> >> >> >> I found some 64kbit RAM chips, want them? 16 pin DIL.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Think I already have asome of those thanks.
> >> >> >> >> I can't think of what to do with them, I think they'll get recycled. No idea if they recycle individual chips. Melt them down into basic elements?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Some have gold on the pins I know there's not much but it seems worth doing for old chips and connectors.
> >> >> >> They're in my "blue box" for the council. They stopped collecting it, but next time I take hedge clippings to the skip I'll ask. Also got busted hard disks, computer fans, USB sticks, etc.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > we have an electrical waste bin at work for such things.
> >> >> > I have hard drives, one day I'll remove the circuit boards add some surface mount LEDs and a small battery and flashing circuit
> >> >> > and frame it as art. Not sure I'll win a turner prize but one day I'll get around to it.
> >> >> A hard disk is very good for concealing marijuana. They're hermetically sealed so a dog won't smell it, and nobody at an airport would open one.
> >> >
> >> > But they could ask you to start it up,
> >> It could just be a plain 3.5" disk with no way to talk to it.
> >> and x-rays can see oddities in such a think.
> >> They can't get through steel.
> >
> > There must be some way or it'd be done on a large scale.
> It most likely is. Black market dealers are a lot brighter than the law. I know a local drug dealer who outsmarted the police in court. She got let off with "not proven". She makes a living selling "street Valium".

I've been on jury service you can;t really out smart the police it's more that they don;t have enough evidence for a jury to convict on.
That's why she got off with not proven, which is differnt from not giulty.

The dealers ttry to stay one spep ahead but it;s more to do with the number of attempts on getting drugs through.
Not everything is checked at shipping ports and lots more drugs get through than is found.
You just have to make sure nothing leads back to you as a dealer.

> >> > Who carries HDs norwerdays anyway most have SSDs .
> >> Depends on the capacity.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> But the girl looks way sexier with rock hard nipples.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I quite like them dressed in PVC or latex , not so keen on leather.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't like plastic, it's too artificial. Skimpy denim is better.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://www.gotceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/photos/ariel-winter/heading-to-a-salon-in-west-hollywood/Ariel-Winter-in-Skimpy-Denim-Shorts--18.jpg
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I don;t like blue denim black is OK.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Why?
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Not sure maybe it;s the sort that waer blue denim .
> >> >> >> >> >> I like girls in denim that's falling apart.
> >> >> >> >> >> > I'ts like a really don't like denim that was featured by dexis midnight runners , don't like track suits either.
> >> >> >> >> >> The cheap shit plastic ones (shell suits?) are usually worn by people more likely to want a shag.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > The ali-G type , I just find people in those funny.
> >> >> >> >> Or hot.
> >> >> >> >> https://www.hotmilkvintage.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/39.jpg
> >> >> >> >> You'd give her one wouldn't you? And you can probably rip that shellsuit right off if you're in a hurry.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Not sure I'd bother.
> >> >> >> You're not right in the head. I can see her being a right horny thing in bed and doing it all night.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I just don;t find that look sexy.
> >> >> What she's wearing isn't really relevant anyway, it's what she looks like underneath.
> >> >
> >> > Could be pregnant ?. If she has a nice figure why hide it in plastic bag.
> >> It's not plastic. Plastic is the crap you showed me them wearing in the club.
> > Mostly PVC and things like it .
> Yip, that's for plastic bags, not people.


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On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:16:18 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 23:46:40 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Saturday, 13 August 2022 at 00:18:59 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 14:08:34 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> > Ah those were the days,
>> >> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LIpFTM8q3s
>> >> >> They should bring back the belt.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yeah I bought it one of my whips to enforce socail distancing ;-)
>> >> One of your whips? How many do you got?
>> >
>> > Just two, they were bought for me a sort of joke thing.Never really used them on anyone.
>> "Never really"? So sort of?
>
> Well tried cracking it a few times I'm not that good at it and it was only done na few times.
> Such as in Oi where's my breakfast luv .

I have a whip app on my phone. It makes a noise when i shake the phone hard.

>> >> >> >> > Some people can't control their emotions or acts.
>> >> >> >> What's your opinion on nudist camps then?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Don't really have one I went not my sort of thing I guess.
>> >> >> Clothes are irrational.
>> >> >
>> >> > I use mine for keeping my keys 2 bunches, 4-6 cards, a bit of money and that's just to get to work.
>> >> My housekey is attached to my wrist strap, a little RFID tag. For money you only need 1 card, or even just your phone.
>> >
>> > were would o keep your phone ?
>> You can get arm pouches for phones. I have one, but I've only ever used it to carry a chocolate bar in a marathon - my secret weapon!
>
> Why do marathon runners wear so many clothes

Because they're idiots. I run in shorts and bare feet.

> and don;t chocaolate bars melt in the heat.

They melt at about 27C. It's usually not that hot unless they're in direct sunlight.

> I klnow the runners and cyclists have gel packs for energy often wondered how they legistale such things.

Legistale?

>> >> > Don;t think I could cope this weather being naked pretty hot in london and the heat reflecting off the concrete .
>> >> > Then there's the risk of sunburn.
>> >> WTF? At 41C with clothes on you'd be soaked with sweat. Naked means it can evaporate. And your skin adjusts to UV levels, it's called a tan.
>> >
>> > It's called being burnt, skin cancer.
>> A myth.
>
> A reality.

No, the tan lowers the amount that gets through.

>> How can a natural thing be bad for you? Suntan is your skin adkusting the amount that gets through.
>
> and even over that last 30 years more UVA and UVB has been getting through due to the destruction of the ozone layer.

And our skin adapts accordingly by getting a deeper tan.

>> >> > When at work I need pockets for tools and all sorts of things.
>> >> > Can't imagine many jobs wwere clothes of some sort are an advantage.
>> >> So wear a tool belt and nothing else. I guarantee you'll get laid or fired within the hour.
>> >> >> >> to one in France and there were 3000 people, of all ages from toddlers to OAPs, all completely starkers. And guess what, I never saw a single erection.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Why would you, a female friend asked me why do men find it sexier to see her in a very short skirt, and wearing a bikini bottom as knickers,
>> >> >> > than when she's on a beach wearing the same bikini bottom.
>> >> >> > I said it's probbaly down to what you almost see and imagination .
>> >> >> No, I get a stiffy as soon as a woman gets naked. But that's when we're about to fuck. Being naked on a beach isn't sexual, it's natural.
>> >> >
>> >> > That's why I don't se nudist camps as sexual, they just don;t interest me.
>> >> So you only like sexual things? A nudist beach is just a relaxing place to go.
>> >
>> > I don't find beaches relaxing they bore me.
>> You do something fun to get tired, then relax. Go windsurfing or swimming or running or something.
>
> I find that sort of shit boring.

Then pick one that requires some constant input, like trying not to fall off the windsurf.

>> >> >> > Years ago people got excited about seeing ankels and then knees
>> >> >> It's pathetic. Sex is natural and we should all be fucking anyone we see.
>> >> >
>> >> > Pissing and shitting is natural and needs doing more often , but I wouldn;t want to see someone taking a dump next to me
>> >> > while I was eating or having sex.
>> >> Do you get upset if you see someone stopped by the side of the road taking a leak?
>> >
>> > No I've seen it but it;s not the sort of thing I find attractive.
>> It's just a natural thing that has to be done.
>
> So are lots of things.

Which we shouldn't be ashamed of.

>> >> >> > Same with any sport I'm probbaly more interested in sport now than I was as a kid,
>> >> >> > but just watching it though.
>> >> >> I'm the opposite, watching is boring, participating is the fun. You don't sit and watch people playing computer games, you don't sit and watch them play monopoly. You do it yourself.
>> >> >
>> >> > Plenty of people watch sport including darts and snooker.
>> >> > Something like 9 million watched the lioness win that football trophy.
>> >> They're morons. Entertainment for the masses.
>> >>
>> >> > Not everyone plays football.
>> >>
>> >> So what? Play something that interests you then.
>> > Not really interesting in playing sport.
>> I don't like stuff like football, but a running race is fun.
>
> for me it's about a much fun as scoring a goal.

Every time you overtake someone it's fun. And it's nice to see spectators cheering at your bare chest. I got hosed down on a hot day when running a marathon, a woman had produced a hosepipe and was cooling off anyone who wanted it.

>> >> > And there's a massive market in Esports and growing all the time.
>> >> > The streaming platfom twitch.tv was set up for it.
>> >> > People playing call of duty etc I know a few that watch others play.
>> >> That's just stupid. Play the game don't watch it.
>> >
>> > Its; a good way of leanring how to play.
>> Rubbish, experience teaches you anything way faster, that's why kids do experiments at school and not just listen to the teacher.
>
> They normally watch the teacher first or at least watch a utube nowerdays.

First maybe, but you need to do something yourself to remember it.

> How did you learn how to jump out of a plane they just took you up and pushed you out did they.

Not much to it really. Which angle to jump, which cord to pull, etc.

> There was no jumping from small hieghts learning how to fall or anything like that ?
> Well if the queen managed it iat the 2012 olypics it can't be that difficult can it.

The Queen skydived?!

> and probbaly quite natural ;-)

Royalty isn't natural.

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On Tuesday, 30 August 2022 at 03:02:33 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:16:18 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 23:46:40 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Saturday, 13 August 2022 at 00:18:59 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 14:08:34 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> >> > Ah those were the days,
> >> >> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LIpFTM8q3s
> >> >> >> They should bring back the belt.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Yeah I bought it one of my whips to enforce socail distancing ;-)
> >> >> One of your whips? How many do you got?
> >> >
> >> > Just two, they were bought for me a sort of joke thing.Never really used them on anyone.
> >> "Never really"? So sort of?
> >
> > Well tried cracking it a few times I'm not that good at it and it was only done na few times.
> > Such as in Oi where's my breakfast luv .
> I have a whip app on my phone. It makes a noise when i shake the phone hard.

I prefer the real thing rather than this simulation stuff ;-)

> >> >> >> >> > Some people can't control their emotions or acts.
> >> >> >> >> What's your opinion on nudist camps then?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Don't really have one I went not my sort of thing I guess.
> >> >> >> Clothes are irrational.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I use mine for keeping my keys 2 bunches, 4-6 cards, a bit of money and that's just to get to work.
> >> >> My housekey is attached to my wrist strap, a little RFID tag. For money you only need 1 card, or even just your phone.
> >> >
> >> > were would o keep your phone ?
> >> You can get arm pouches for phones. I have one, but I've only ever used it to carry a chocolate bar in a marathon - my secret weapon!
> >
> > Why do marathon runners wear so many clothes
> Because they're idiots. I run in shorts and bare feet.

Animals run with bare feet , some have evolved into hooves , while others have differing toes and some have fingers others have paws.
But as yet we haven't eveloved foot that run well on concrete or tarmac, some have webbing between their toes I assume you don;t.
.. Of course there are even more modern things such as glass , metal even plastic (lego bricks) that are very painful if trodden on.
We even put shoes on horses .

> > and don;t chocaolate bars melt in the heat.
> They melt at about 27C. It's usually not that hot unless they're in direct sunlight.

Go up to around 38C in london a couple of weeks ago.
I thought you'd be running in direct sunlight .

> > I klnow the runners and cyclists have gel packs for energy often wondered how they legistale such things.
> Legistale?

Legistate, or how they decide what is fair and what isn't such as amphetamine sulphate or even marijuana

> >> >> > Don;t think I could cope this weather being naked pretty hot in london and the heat reflecting off the concrete .
> >> >> > Then there's the risk of sunburn.
> >> >> WTF? At 41C with clothes on you'd be soaked with sweat. Naked means it can evaporate. And your skin adjusts to UV levels, it's called a tan.
> >> >
> >> > It's called being burnt, skin cancer.
> >> A myth.
> >
> > A reality.
> No, the tan lowers the amount that gets through.

Only after it's burnt and if doesn't really affect the amount of UV especaily UV B

> >> How can a natural thing be bad for you? Suntan is your skin adkusting the amount that gets through.
> >
> > and even over that last 30 years more UVA and UVB has been getting through due to the destruction of the ozone layer.
> And our skin adapts accordingly by getting a deeper tan.

After the effect, not before it's like putting water on a burning house to stop it burning.

> >> >> > When at work I need pockets for tools and all sorts of things.
> >> >> > Can't imagine many jobs wwere clothes of some sort are an advantage.
> >> >> So wear a tool belt and nothing else. I guarantee you'll get laid or fired within the hour.
> >> >> >> >> to one in France and there were 3000 people, of all ages from toddlers to OAPs, all completely starkers. And guess what, I never saw a single erection.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Why would you, a female friend asked me why do men find it sexier to see her in a very short skirt, and wearing a bikini bottom as knickers,
> >> >> >> > than when she's on a beach wearing the same bikini bottom.
> >> >> >> > I said it's probbaly down to what you almost see and imagination .
> >> >> >> No, I get a stiffy as soon as a woman gets naked. But that's when we're about to fuck. Being naked on a beach isn't sexual, it's natural.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That's why I don't se nudist camps as sexual, they just don;t interest me.
> >> >> So you only like sexual things? A nudist beach is just a relaxing place to go.
> >> >
> >> > I don't find beaches relaxing they bore me.
> >> You do something fun to get tired, then relax. Go windsurfing or swimming or running or something.
> >
> > I find that sort of shit boring.
> Then pick one that requires some constant input, like trying not to fall off the windsurf.

Doesn;t seem to be a naturla thing to do if I needed to do things on water I'd be like jesus or
I'd have webbede feet.

> >> >> >> > Years ago people got excited about seeing ankels and then knees
> >> >> >> It's pathetic. Sex is natural and we should all be fucking anyone we see.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Pissing and shitting is natural and needs doing more often , but I wouldn;t want to see someone taking a dump next to me
> >> >> > while I was eating or having sex.
> >> >> Do you get upset if you see someone stopped by the side of the road taking a leak?
> >> >
> >> > No I've seen it but it;s not the sort of thing I find attractive.
> >> It's just a natural thing that has to be done.
> >
> > So are lots of things.
> Which we shouldn't be ashamed of.

Who's ashamed, are you ashamed to take a dump outside the local pub ?

> >> >> >> > Same with any sport I'm probbaly more interested in sport now than I was as a kid,
> >> >> >> > but just watching it though.
> >> >> >> I'm the opposite, watching is boring, participating is the fun. You don't sit and watch people playing computer games, you don't sit and watch them play monopoly. You do it yourself.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Plenty of people watch sport including darts and snooker.
> >> >> > Something like 9 million watched the lioness win that football trophy.
> >> >> They're morons. Entertainment for the masses.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Not everyone plays football.
> >> >>
> >> >> So what? Play something that interests you then.
> >> > Not really interesting in playing sport.
> >> I don't like stuff like football, but a running race is fun.
> >
> > for me it's about a much fun as scoring a goal.
> Every time you overtake someone it's fun. And it's nice to see spectators cheering at your bare chest. I got hosed down on a hot day when running a marathon, a woman had produced a hosepipe and was cooling off anyone who wanted it.

I guess so btu I wouldn't want to spend much of my time doing it.

> >> >> > And there's a massive market in Esports and growing all the time.
> >> >> > The streaming platfom twitch.tv was set up for it.
> >> >> > People playing call of duty etc I know a few that watch others play.
> >> >> That's just stupid. Play the game don't watch it.
> >> >
> >> > Its; a good way of leanring how to play.
> >> Rubbish, experience teaches you anything way faster, that's why kids do experiments at school and not just listen to the teacher.
> >
> > They normally watch the teacher first or at least watch a utube nowerdays.
> First maybe, but you need to do something yourself to remember it.


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 by: Ken Hart - Tue, 30 Aug 2022 21:38 UTC

On 8/29/22 10:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:16:18 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 23:46:40 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
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>>> wrote:

snip lots

>> How did you learn how to jump out of a plane they just took you up and
>> pushed you out did they.
>
> Not much to it really.  Which angle to jump, which cord to pull, etc.
>
>>  There was no jumping from small hieghts learning how to fall or
>> anything like that ?
>>  Well if the queen managed it iat the 2012 olypics it can't be that
>> difficult can it.
>
> The Queen skydived?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AS-dCdYZbo

About six minutes. I suspect there could have been a stunt double. At
least for the Corgi's

>
>> and probbaly quite natural ;-)
>
> Royalty isn't natural.

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 by: Commander Kinsey - Tue, 30 Aug 2022 22:42 UTC

On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 22:38:47 +0100, Ken Hart <kwhart1@centurylink.net> wrote:

> On 8/29/22 10:02 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:16:18 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 23:46:40 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>
> snip lots
>
>>> How did you learn how to jump out of a plane they just took you up and
>>> pushed you out did they.
>>
>> Not much to it really. Which angle to jump, which cord to pull, etc.
>>
>>> There was no jumping from small hieghts learning how to fall or
>>> anything like that ?
>>> Well if the queen managed it iat the 2012 olypics it can't be that
>>> difficult can it.
>>
>> The Queen skydived?!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AS-dCdYZbo
>
> About six minutes. I suspect there could have been a stunt double. At
> least for the Corgi's

Anyone else notice the James Bond actor looks like Putin?

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On Mon, 22 Aug 2022 13:40:00 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, 21 August 2022 at 22:01:20 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:16:18 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Monday, 15 August 2022 at 23:46:40 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 03:31:50 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > On Saturday, 13 August 2022 at 00:18:59 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> >> On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 14:08:34 +0100, Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I klnew a few couples like that not married but been together over 25+ years.
>> >> >> >> > It's not like they don;t have arguments it;'s just that they seem to work things out.
>> >> >> >> 1 in 3 marriages end in divorce.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Pretty useless stat. really has little meaning nowerdays.
>> >> >> It means what it's always meant, maths hasn't changed that much. It means 1000 people get divorced and 2000 live happily. Not good numbers.
>> >> >
>> >> > What about those that a separated, or just married but don't live together.
>> >> That's hardly a successful marriage.
>> >
>> > Depends what you mean by successful marriage.
>> > I have known of a few marriages for passports have taken place some are still married although they have no contact with each other.
>> I'm talking about a partner you live with and fuck.
>
> That's not the defintion of marriage though.
> So when looking at marriage stats it doesn;t mean what poee think it does.

99% of marriages are simply a man and wife living together in the normal way.

>> > Even the GF I had in the band was going to marry a guy named dave, I'd heard this romour and when I asked her about it she said yes
>> > it's gay dave he agreed to marry me so I can get a english passport , I said that won;t work he;s scottich so youd have a scottish passport.
>> > She was a bit confused at the point but I had to explain that is was a joke and that;s she;s have a EU passport.
>> > After we split she found herself an Engish BF and a year later she married him , I was the photographer and the cocktail maker at her wedding.
>> > She made the punch lots of loverly alcohol but insisted it was springled with a few grams of speed.
>> >
>> > They aren't together now she is back in finland and isna facebook friend, no idea what happened to him though.
>> ROFL! You meet interesting people.
>
> Yeah a line of fun, wierd or problematic.
>
> Talking of which my ex french flatmate told me she is moving in with her boyfriend she says they have the same mentality.
> Sounds like a disaster about to happen.

There's a council estate near here which is fun to walk through. Some of the women are quite aggressive.

>> > They kept having to drain our pool as someone that hatted swimming kept throwing a brick though the window and glass would end up ion teh pool.
>> > Happened quite a few times .
>> Just send someone in with a dustpan and brush.
>
> Not sure those work underwater.

Glass is heavier than water.

>> When I were a lad near Dundee (rough place where they set fire to police cars) someone decided it would be funny to jam a razor blade in the join in one of the water slides.
>
> Strange the way those of lower IQ have a differnt sense of humour.

I have a 135 IQ and I thought it was funny.

>> >> >> >> >> One of my girlfriends was married with 4 kids. She kept thinking about leaving him for me, but living in a seperate house nearby as two people, 15 parrots, and 4 kids in one house would be a fucking mess.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Yeah 4 kids , an Irish GF said she wanted to have 5 daughters as she was one of 5 girls.
>> >> >> >> > Closests I;ve ever come to a heart attack was when she cuddeld up to me saying I'd really like 5 children.. all girls...
>> >> >> >> Like you can control if they're girls. Could have an abortion if they're the wrong one I guess.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I wouldn;t of cared what gender they were but 5 is far too many I was thuinking cloers to zero.
>> >> >> I'd like one. Be better to give it your full attention.
>> >> >
>> >> > I think 2 is a good number, 3 perhaps .
>> >> You said closer to zero a minute ago.
>> >
>> > For me personally yes ZERO, but generally speaking for the good of the kids they need a sibling or two.
>>
>> Single kids I know are much happier. More attention more money sent on them, bigger inheritance. Most kids prefer friends not siblings.
>
> Not in the early years.

Bullshit, when younger their parents are who they like.

>> >> >> > Little evidence of that it's why so many are obsese.
>> >> >> That's the amount not the type.
>> >> >
>> >> > it's the amount of fat, sugar and salt in processed food, that is the problem.
>> >> Bollocks. Calories are calories. People are fat or thin based on genetics. We need to stop the unhealthy blobs breeding.
>> >
>> > genetics is 30-70% of it, and it;s down top gut and other bacteria. Theres a process that's been discovered over the last few years that involves
>> > fecal translpants that's taking shit cells from one peron and putting them in another
>> > and this changes gut bactreria which can have a significant effect or cure obese people, it;s also possible to
>> > help irradicate some cancer cells although it's still in the early testing.
>> But that gut bacteria depends on your genes too presumably. If you see fat parents, chances are the kids are fat too.
>
> Yes you can inherit fatness just like you can inteligence or athleticism and many other things.

Weirdly you can inherit fitness you've created. You can decide to do loads of exercise, then that gets passed onto your kids.

>> > check out the southpark episode Turd burglers ;-)
>> I hate that program.
>
> Why ?

Childish shite and simply drawn cartoons that belong in the 70s. What happened to CGI?

>> > Why are there more unhealthy blods and fat isn't just fat there is at least two types I know of brown and white fat.
>> Brown fat is what stops you being a sissy in cold water.
>
> Where do you get that idea from ?

Brown fat cells create heat directly.

>> >> >> > >after all animals in the wild often don't get a choice.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > They do, animals can usually eat what is aviable if the right food suff doesn't exist then the species doesn't survive
>> >> >> > It's what survival of the fitest really means it's not about who is the stonger indivudual.
>> >> >> I doubt any animal knows which food is better for it. It eats what's available or tasty.
>> >> >
>> >> > They do they have senses and experience.
>> >> > Some get it wrong, but generally in the wild they are OK.
>> >> > They have eyes and a nose they can use.
>> >> They know what's poisonous, but I doubt they have a grasp of vitamins.
>> >
>> > They don;t need to, this is why horses and even dogs eat their own shit as they know they contain something they need
>> > that isn's passed to them in the first 'eating'.
>> >
>> > Dogs will eat other dogs shit if they smell that it contains high levels of the things they need.
>> > Some dogs get fed healthy dieds and they stuill shit out so called good protiens.
>> >
>> > It happens with many animals .
>> And us. I can smell what's good for me. We also get a desire for a certain food, I bet that's our brain requiring certain nutrients.
>
> True but we can also get it wrong.

So can nutritionists. Look at the number of times they changed their minds which fats were best for you.

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