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From: fel...@invalid.com (Yosemite Sam)
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Subject: Re: Q For Post-1970s, Real Mechanics
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 by: Yosemite Sam - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 01:41 UTC

On 20/02/2022 8:45 am, keithr0 wrote:
> On 20/02/2022 12:26 am, Clocky wrote:
>> On 19/02/2022 8:36 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 19/02/2022 11:22 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 19/02/2022 8:04 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 19/02/2022 5:11 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 19/02/2022 3:00 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>> On 19/02/2022 3:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For the record, I have no idea what qualifications noddy has or
>>>>>>>> whether he did or did not run a business called noddys
>>>>>>>> automotive, and neither do I care in the least one way or another.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> did I ever tell you about my time with NASA's space program?
>>>>>>> probably not, it was many years ago
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Strange, I worked on the US space program for 6.5 years many
>>>>>> years ago and I don't remember you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the record
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Manned Space Flight Network Carnarvon WA 1 year.
>>>>>> Deep Space Network DSS41 Island Lagoon Woomera SA 2 years.
>>>>>> Satellite Tracking and Data Acquisition Network Orrorral Valley
>>>>>> ACT 3.5. years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry peter, but you aren't even good at bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Now wait for the cries of self- aggrandisement)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> the only bullshit here is your creative sniping and editing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Petulant.
>>>
>>>
>>> yes you are. you didn't address what I said, and just twisted the
>>> whole thing. you're a joke, just like Clocky says. here's the reality..
>>>
>>> ..............................
>>>
>>> On 19/02/2022 3:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> For the record, I have no idea what qualifications noddy has or
>>>> whether he did or did not run a business called noddys automotive,
>>>> and neither do I care in the least one way or another.
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh ok, so for the record then we can all tell as many lies as we
>>> want and that's ok with you. the problem then however is we can
>>> never know when someone is telling the truth or not, so they lose
>>> all credibility, as with the case in point. btw, did I ever tell you
>>> about my time with NASA's space program? probably not, it was many
>>> years ago before I started my joint business venture with a guy
>>> called Besos. I dropped out, but he went on to great success I believe.
>>>
>>> ...........................
>>>
>>> hint: i'm not saying I really worked at NASA or with Besos.
>>>
>>
>>
>> The fact that you had to spell this out to him should send alarm
>> bells ringing in his head.
>
> Do you not think that I knew what he was trying to do (badly) and just
> didn't play the game that he was trying on?

oh so just for the record then, what game was I playing and 'trying on'?

> Jeeze you're thick the pair of you, maybe I'll just not have to be so
> subtle in future.
>

no you just have to be more rational

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https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam
"His opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
"His self serving ego pumping comments just
read like witless wankery"- Clocky on Keefy

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 02:02 UTC

On 20/02/2022 10:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
> On 20/02/2022 8:46 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 08:25:56 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>
>>> On 20/02/2022 6:33 am, alvey wrote:
>>>
>>>> In short, keith shares a lot of DNA with the Fraudster.
>>>
>>> You seem to have a strange fascination with my DNA kinda kinky really.
>>
>> Why not? Unlike you, it's an interesting subject, and one with limitless
>> possibilities. Like, imagine the world without narcissistic
>> sociopaths...
>
> Well mine lives on in 16 others how about yours?

here we go again.. mine is bigger than yours

>
> Hopefully the answer is none because the world without narcissistic
> sociopaths would be a far better place.

you shouldn't talk about your new bff that way. he mightn't like it

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam
"His opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
"His self serving ego pumping comments just
read like witless wankery"- Clocky on Keefy

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 by: Clocky - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 02:11 UTC

On 20/02/2022 6:00 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 20/02/2022 8:43 am, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 19/02/2022 10:36 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>
>>> and you're on record saying you don't care if ppl lie or not and it
>>> doesn't matter if they do. i just told you why it does matter. you're
>>> an idiot.
>>
>> OK show me where I said that I don't care if people lie.
>
> It's rather bizarre that these fuckwits would make such a noise about
> "truth" and how vitally important it is in an irrelevant newsgroup like
> this, yet not one of them seems keen to say a *single* word about
> Clasener and his horrendous history of bullshit that's been perpetrated
> in this group.
>

Reckon your relentless bullying, lies and abuse might have something to
do with that?

Also, I know *he's* qualified.

As keith said;

"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he
is lying."

So you're lying.

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 by: Clocky - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 02:22 UTC

On 20/02/2022 6:24 am, keithr0 wrote:
> On 20/02/2022 1:32 am, Clocky wrote:
>> On 19/02/2022 11:27 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 18/02/2022 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 18/02/2022 12:24 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 17/02/2022 5:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 17/02/2022 12:05 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't "expect answers to [keith blah blah]", but I *do* expect
>>>>>>> answers to
>>>>>>> legitimate questions concerning claims which someone makes.
>>>>>>> Whether you can
>>>>>>> see it or not, there's a big difference there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doesn't matter alvey, the bargain is you give answers, you get
>>>>>> answers. like it or leave it the choice is yours.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You only answer questions that provide you with an opportunity to
>>>>> boost your own ego. You don't answer questions that go to the heart
>>>>> of your integrity however, you evade those wholesale.
>>>>
>>>> Really? now you get to back up the accusation. Go ahead, make my day.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The usual smartarse nonsense from alvey and a fawning follow up to
>>> that from xeno, but nothing from clocky? Odd that.
>>
>>
>> Oh you want an example question that proves you lack integrity?
>>
>> Here's one:
>>
>> from the thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Oct 7 2021
>>
>> You assert to another poster:
>>
>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>> He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>> proven liar.
>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. not providing proof doesn't mean the claim is
>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> false, only that it's unproven
>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>  >>>>>>>>>>>> He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is
>> unproven, he
>>  >>>>>>>>>>>> is lying.
>>  >>>>>>>>>>>
>>  >>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>> Given your assertion above that "He asserts that the claim is true,
>> so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
>>
>> I then asked:
>>
>>
>>  >>>>>>>>>>> In that case NoddyLiar, claiming he is qualified for which
>>  >>>>>>>>>>> *no* evidence has been provided or found anywhere, is lying.
>>  >>>>>>>>>>>
>>  >>>>>>>>>>> Agreed?
>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>>
>> Your response:
>>
>>  >>>>>>>>>> Whatever.
>>
>> "Whatever" isn't an answer. Given what you had just stated, "yes" was
>> the only answer you could have given here if you had *any* integrity
>> at all.
>>
>> You then went on to evade answering the question as seen below.
>>
>>  >>>>>>>>>
>>  >>>>>>>>>
>>  >>>>>>>>> "yes" is your only option Keith :-)
>>  >>>>>>>>>
>>  >>>>>>>> I choose my own options, thank you.
>>  >>>>>>>
>>  >>>>>>> You only had one option to choose.
>>  >>>>>>
>>  >>>>>> If there is only one course of action available then there are no
>>  >>>>>> option - basic logic.
>>  >>>>>>
>>  >>>>>
>>  >>>>> Basic logic says you're fucked.
>>  >>>>>
>>  >>>>> We will just call this Keef's paradox :-)
>>
>>
> Fill your boots you can, and based on past performance will, believe
> anything that you want.

They are your own words and prove you dodge questions and lack
integrity. That's a problem for you, not me.

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 by: alvey - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 02:26 UTC

On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 10:57:28 +1100, Noddy wrote:

>
> Alvey has a strange fascination with a *lot* of things.
>
> Just look at the irrational world he lives in. He can't go a day without
> making the same dozen infantile posts about me as if no one has ever
> heard them before, and he has this bizarre notion that whatever he
> imagines about me is "proven" to be true despite him not ever having
> shown proof of jack shit in the real world.
>
> He's certainly not playing with a full deck, that's for sure :)

Humpty Gibbens shat on us all
Humpty Gibbens had a great fall
Everyone sane loudly shouted "Amen!"
For nothing could put Humpty Gibbens together again.

You're history Fraudster. A deadshit walking. None of your bullying,
bluster or bullshit will ever change the *fact* that you've been exposed as
a lying, fraudulent, hypocrite and a whining coward.

alvey

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 by: Clocky - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 02:51 UTC

On 20/02/2022 7:57 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 20/02/2022 9:25 am, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 20/02/2022 6:33 am, alvey wrote:
>>
>>> In short, keith shares a lot of DNA with the Fraudster.
>>
>> You seem to have a strange fascination with my DNA kinda kinky really.
>
> Alvey has a strange fascination with a *lot* of things.
>
> Just look at the irrational world he lives in. He can't go a day without
> making the same dozen infantile posts about me as if no one has ever
> heard them before, and he has this bizarre notion that whatever he
> imagines about me is "proven" to be true despite him not ever having
> shown proof of jack shit in the real world.
>

Hey bozo...

Proof of your qualifications?

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 by: Clocky - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 02:54 UTC

On 20/02/2022 5:45 am, keithr0 wrote:
> On 20/02/2022 12:26 am, Clocky wrote:
>> On 19/02/2022 8:36 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 19/02/2022 11:22 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 19/02/2022 8:04 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 19/02/2022 5:11 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 19/02/2022 3:00 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>> On 19/02/2022 3:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For the record, I have no idea what qualifications noddy has or
>>>>>>>> whether he did or did not run a business called noddys
>>>>>>>> automotive, and neither do I care in the least one way or another.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> did I ever tell you about my time with NASA's space program?
>>>>>>> probably not, it was many years ago
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Strange, I worked on the US space program for 6.5 years many years
>>>>>> ago and I don't remember you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the record
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Manned Space Flight Network Carnarvon WA 1 year.
>>>>>> Deep Space Network DSS41 Island Lagoon Woomera SA 2 years.
>>>>>> Satellite Tracking and Data Acquisition Network Orrorral Valley
>>>>>> ACT 3.5. years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry peter, but you aren't even good at bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Now wait for the cries of self- aggrandisement)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> the only bullshit here is your creative sniping and editing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Petulant.
>>>
>>>
>>> yes you are. you didn't address what I said, and just twisted the
>>> whole thing. you're a joke, just like Clocky says. here's the reality..
>>>
>>> ..............................
>>>
>>> On 19/02/2022 3:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> For the record, I have no idea what qualifications noddy has or
>>>> whether he did or did not run a business called noddys automotive,
>>>> and neither do I care in the least one way or another.
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh ok, so for the record then we can all tell as many lies as we want
>>> and that's ok with you. the problem then however is we can never know
>>> when someone is telling the truth or not, so they lose all
>>> credibility, as with the case in point. btw, did I ever tell you
>>> about my time with NASA's space program? probably not, it was many
>>> years ago before I started my joint business venture with a guy
>>> called Besos. I dropped out, but he went on to great success I believe.
>>>
>>> ...........................
>>>
>>> hint: i'm not saying I really worked at NASA or with Besos.
>>>
>>
>>
>> The fact that you had to spell this out to him should send alarm bells
>> ringing in his head.
>
> Do you not think that I knew

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 by: Clocky - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 03:01 UTC

On 20/02/2022 4:14 am, alvey wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 16:11:52 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>
>> On 19/02/2022 3:00 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 19/02/2022 3:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For the record, I have no idea what qualifications noddy has or
>>>> whether he did or did not run a business called noddys automotive, and
>>>> neither do I care in the least one way or another.
>>>
>>> did I ever tell you about my time with
>>> NASA's space program? probably not, it was many years ago
>>
>> Strange, I worked on the US space program for 6.5 years many years ago
>> and I don't remember you.
>>
>> For the record
>>
>> Manned Space Flight Network Carnarvon WA 1 year.
>> Deep Space Network DSS41 Island Lagoon Woomera SA 2 years.
>> Satellite Tracking and Data Acquisition Network Orrorral Valley ACT 3.5.
>> years.
>>
>> Sorry peter, but you aren't even good at bullshit.
>>
>> (Now wait for the cries of self- aggrandisement)
>
> Can't hear any. The gasps of amazement are drowning everything out.
>
> Jaysus keith! How can you possibly miss that he's taking the piss?
>
>
> alvey
>

His 'I'm not an idiot, I was only pretending to be an idiot' backpedal
though. So convincing.

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 by: keithr0 - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 04:35 UTC

On 20/02/2022 11:21 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 20/02/2022 1:26 am, Clocky wrote:
>> On 19/02/2022 8:36 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 19/02/2022 11:22 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 19/02/2022 8:04 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 19/02/2022 5:11 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 19/02/2022 3:00 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>> On 19/02/2022 3:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For the record, I have no idea what qualifications noddy has or
>>>>>>>> whether he did or did not run a business called noddys
>>>>>>>> automotive, and neither do I care in the least one way or another.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> did I ever tell you about my time with NASA's space program?
>>>>>>> probably not, it was many years ago
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Strange, I worked on the US space program for 6.5 years many years
>>>>>> ago and I don't remember you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the record
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Manned Space Flight Network Carnarvon WA 1 year.
>>>>>> Deep Space Network DSS41 Island Lagoon Woomera SA 2 years.
>>>>>> Satellite Tracking and Data Acquisition Network Orrorral Valley
>>>>>> ACT 3.5. years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry peter, but you aren't even good at bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Now wait for the cries of self- aggrandisement)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> the only bullshit here is your creative sniping and editing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Petulant.
>>>
>>>
>>> yes you are. you didn't address what I said, and just twisted the
>>> whole thing. you're a joke, just like Clocky says. here's the reality..
>>>
>>> ..............................
>>>
>>> On 19/02/2022 3:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> For the record, I have no idea what qualifications noddy has or
>>>> whether he did or did not run a business called noddys automotive,
>>>> and neither do I care in the least one way or another.
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh ok, so for the record then we can all tell as many lies as we want
>>> and that's ok with you. the problem then however is we can never know
>>> when someone is telling the truth or not, so they lose all
>>> credibility, as with the case in point. btw, did I ever tell you
>>> about my time with NASA's space program? probably not, it was many
>>> years ago before I started my joint business venture with a guy
>>> called Besos. I dropped out, but he went on to great success I believe.
>>>
>>> ...........................
>>>
>>> hint: i'm not saying I really worked at NASA or with Besos.
>>>
>>
>>
>> The fact that you had to spell this out to him should send alarm bells
>> ringing in his head.
>
>
> absolutely

JC almighty, what a bunch of thick headed village idiots, basking in the
stupid idea that felix, in a flash of brilliance, put one over on me.
Some hope kiddies.

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 by: keithr0 - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 04:36 UTC

On 20/02/2022 11:37 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 20/02/2022 8:43 am, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 19/02/2022 10:36 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>
>>> and you're on record saying you don't care if ppl lie or not and it
>>> doesn't matter if they do. i just told you why it does matter. you're
>>> an idiot.
>>
>> OK show me where I said that I don't care if people lie.
>
>
> ffs are you not following the thread?
>
> "For the record, I have no idea what qualifications noddy has or whether
> he did or did not run a business called noddys automotive, and neither
> do I care in the least one way or another."
>
>
Where does that condone lying?

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 by: keithr0 - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 04:38 UTC

On 20/02/2022 1:01 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 20/02/2022 4:14 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 16:11:52 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>
>>> On 19/02/2022 3:00 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 19/02/2022 3:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For the record, I have no idea what qualifications noddy has or
>>>>> whether he did or did not run a business called noddys automotive, and
>>>>> neither do I care in the least one way or another.
>>>>
>>>> did I ever tell you about my time with
>>>> NASA's space program? probably not, it was many years ago
>>>
>>> Strange, I worked on the US space program for 6.5 years many years ago
>>> and I don't remember you.
>>>
>>> For the record
>>>
>>> Manned Space Flight Network Carnarvon WA 1 year.
>>> Deep Space Network DSS41 Island Lagoon Woomera SA 2 years.
>>> Satellite Tracking and Data Acquisition Network Orrorral Valley ACT 3.5.
>>> years.
>>>
>>> Sorry peter, but you aren't even good at bullshit.
>>>
>>> (Now wait for the cries of self- aggrandisement)
>>
>> Can't hear any. The gasps of amazement are drowning everything out.
>>
>> Jaysus keith! How can you possibly miss that he's taking the piss?
>>
>>
>> alvey
>>
>
>
> His 'I'm not an idiot, I was only pretending to be an idiot' backpedal
> though. So convincing.

Didn't you even work out that I was taking the piss in return? It looks
like you weren't actually pretending.

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 by: keithr0 - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 04:40 UTC

On 20/02/2022 12:02 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 20/02/2022 10:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 20/02/2022 8:46 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 08:25:56 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 20/02/2022 6:33 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In short, keith shares a lot of DNA with the Fraudster.
>>>>
>>>> You seem to have a strange fascination with my DNA kinda kinky really.
>>>
>>> Why not? Unlike you, it's an interesting subject, and one with limitless
>>> possibilities. Like, imagine the world without narcissistic
>>> sociopaths...
>>
>> Well mine lives on in 16 others how about yours?
>
>
> here we go again.. mine is bigger than yours

It probably is.

>> Hopefully the answer is none because the world without narcissistic
>> sociopaths would be a far better place.
>
>
> you shouldn't talk about your new bff that way. he mightn't like it

Read the context if you have the brain power to do so, it's your bff
that is being addressed.

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 by: keithr0 - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 04:41 UTC

On 20/02/2022 12:22 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 20/02/2022 6:24 am, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 20/02/2022 1:32 am, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 19/02/2022 11:27 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 18/02/2022 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 18/02/2022 12:24 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 17/02/2022 5:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 17/02/2022 12:05 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't "expect answers to [keith blah blah]", but I *do* expect
>>>>>>>> answers to
>>>>>>>> legitimate questions concerning claims which someone makes.
>>>>>>>> Whether you can
>>>>>>>> see it or not, there's a big difference there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doesn't matter alvey, the bargain is you give answers, you get
>>>>>>> answers. like it or leave it the choice is yours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You only answer questions that provide you with an opportunity to
>>>>>> boost your own ego. You don't answer questions that go to the
>>>>>> heart of your integrity however, you evade those wholesale.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? now you get to back up the accusation. Go ahead, make my day.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The usual smartarse nonsense from alvey and a fawning follow up to
>>>> that from xeno, but nothing from clocky? Odd that.
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh you want an example question that proves you lack integrity?
>>>
>>> Here's one:
>>>
>>> from the thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Oct 7 2021
>>>
>>> You assert to another poster:
>>>
>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>> He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>> proven liar.
>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. not providing proof doesn't mean the claim is
>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> false, only that it's unproven
>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>> He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is
>>> unproven, he
>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>> is lying.
>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> Given your assertion above that "He asserts that the claim is true,
>>> so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
>>>
>>> I then asked:
>>>
>>>
>>>  >>>>>>>>>>> In that case NoddyLiar, claiming he is qualified for which
>>>  >>>>>>>>>>> *no* evidence has been provided or found anywhere, is
>>> lying.
>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>  >>>>>>>>>>> Agreed?
>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> Your response:
>>>
>>>  >>>>>>>>>> Whatever.
>>>
>>> "Whatever" isn't an answer. Given what you had just stated, "yes" was
>>> the only answer you could have given here if you had *any* integrity
>>> at all.
>>>
>>> You then went on to evade answering the question as seen below.
>>>
>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>>>  >>>>>>>>> "yes" is your only option Keith :-)
>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>>>  >>>>>>>> I choose my own options, thank you.
>>>  >>>>>>>
>>>  >>>>>>> You only had one option to choose.
>>>  >>>>>>
>>>  >>>>>> If there is only one course of action available then there
>>> are no
>>>  >>>>>> option - basic logic.
>>>  >>>>>>
>>>  >>>>>
>>>  >>>>> Basic logic says you're fucked.
>>>  >>>>>
>>>  >>>>> We will just call this Keef's paradox :-)
>>>
>>>
>> Fill your boots you can, and based on past performance will, believe
>> anything that you want.
>
> They are your own words and prove you dodge questions and lack
> integrity. That's a problem for you, not me.
>
Whatever.

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 by: keithr0 - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 04:42 UTC

On 20/02/2022 11:25 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 20/02/2022 2:32 am, Clocky wrote:
>> On 19/02/2022 11:27 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 18/02/2022 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 18/02/2022 12:24 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 17/02/2022 5:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 17/02/2022 12:05 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't "expect answers to [keith blah blah]", but I *do* expect
>>>>>>> answers to
>>>>>>> legitimate questions concerning claims which someone makes.
>>>>>>> Whether you can
>>>>>>> see it or not, there's a big difference there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doesn't matter alvey, the bargain is you give answers, you get
>>>>>> answers. like it or leave it the choice is yours.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You only answer questions that provide you with an opportunity to
>>>>> boost your own ego. You don't answer questions that go to the heart
>>>>> of your integrity however, you evade those wholesale.
>>>>
>>>> Really? now you get to back up the accusation. Go ahead, make my day.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The usual smartarse nonsense from alvey and a fawning follow up to
>>> that from xeno, but nothing from clocky? Odd that.
>>
>>
>> Oh you want an example question that proves you lack integrity?
>>
>> Here's one:
>>
>> from the thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Oct 7 2021
>>
>> You assert to another poster:
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> proven liar.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. not providing proof doesn't mean the claim is
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> false, only that it's unproven
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is unproven, he
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> is lying.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>> Given your assertion above that "He asserts that the claim is true,
>> so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
>>
>> I then asked:
>>
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> In that case NoddyLiar, claiming he is qualified for which
>> >>>>>>>>>>> *no* evidence has been provided or found anywhere, is lying.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Agreed?
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>
>> Your response:
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Whatever.
>>
>> "Whatever" isn't an answer. Given what you had just stated, "yes" was
>> the only answer you could have given here if you had *any* integrity
>> at all.
>>
>> You then went on to evade answering the question as seen below.
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> "yes" is your only option Keith :-)
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I choose my own options, thank you.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> You only had one option to choose.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> If there is only one course of action available then there are no
>> >>>>>> option - basic logic.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Basic logic says you're fucked.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> We will just call this Keef's paradox :-)
>>
>>
>
> I remember this. a good example of his lack of integrity.  :)
>
You'd better write it down, there will be a test later.

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 by: alvey - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 06:27 UTC

On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 14:35:52 +1000, keithr0 wrote:

> On 20/02/2022 11:21 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 20/02/2022 1:26 am, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 19/02/2022 8:36 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 19/02/2022 11:22 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 19/02/2022 8:04 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>> On 19/02/2022 5:11 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 19/02/2022 3:00 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 19/02/2022 3:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For the record, I have no idea what qualifications noddy has or
>>>>>>>>> whether he did or did not run a business called noddys
>>>>>>>>> automotive, and neither do I care in the least one way or another.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> did I ever tell you about my time with NASA's space program?
>>>>>>>> probably not, it was many years ago
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Strange, I worked on the US space program for 6.5 years many years
>>>>>>> ago and I don't remember you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For the record
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Manned Space Flight Network Carnarvon WA 1 year.
>>>>>>> Deep Space Network DSS41 Island Lagoon Woomera SA 2 years.
>>>>>>> Satellite Tracking and Data Acquisition Network Orrorral Valley
>>>>>>> ACT 3.5. years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry peter, but you aren't even good at bullshit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (Now wait for the cries of self- aggrandisement)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the only bullshit here is your creative sniping and editing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Petulant.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> yes you are. you didn't address what I said, and just twisted the
>>>> whole thing. you're a joke, just like Clocky says. here's the reality..
>>>>
>>>> ..............................
>>>>
>>>> On 19/02/2022 3:08 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For the record, I have no idea what qualifications noddy has or
>>>>> whether he did or did not run a business called noddys automotive,
>>>>> and neither do I care in the least one way or another.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh ok, so for the record then we can all tell as many lies as we want
>>>> and that's ok with you. the problem then however is we can never know
>>>> when someone is telling the truth or not, so they lose all
>>>> credibility, as with the case in point. btw, did I ever tell you
>>>> about my time with NASA's space program? probably not, it was many
>>>> years ago before I started my joint business venture with a guy
>>>> called Besos. I dropped out, but he went on to great success I believe.
>>>>
>>>> ...........................
>>>>
>>>> hint: i'm not saying I really worked at NASA or with Besos.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The fact that you had to spell this out to him should send alarm bells
>>> ringing in his head.
>>
>> absolutely
>
> JC almighty, what a bunch of thick headed village idiots, basking in the
> stupid idea that felix, in a flash of brilliance, put one over on me.
> Some hope kiddies.

lol.
Lurvvve the arrogance.
"brilliance" isn't necessary to "put one over" you keith.

hth

alvey

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 by: alvey - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 06:30 UTC

On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 14:36:57 +1000, keithr0 wrote:

> On 20/02/2022 11:37 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 20/02/2022 8:43 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 19/02/2022 10:36 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>
>>>> and you're on record saying you don't care if ppl lie or not and it
>>>> doesn't matter if they do. i just told you why it does matter. you're
>>>> an idiot.
>>>
>>> OK show me where I said that I don't care if people lie.
>>
>> ffs are you not following the thread?
>>
>> "For the record, I have no idea what qualifications noddy has or whether
>> he did or did not run a business called noddys automotive, and neither
>> do I care in the least one way or another."
>>
> Where does that condone lying?

Yep, "brilliance" isn't required. Your own words do just fine at showing
you up.

hth

alvey

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 by: alvey - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 06:34 UTC

On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 14:40:00 +1000, keithr0 wrote:

> On 20/02/2022 12:02 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 20/02/2022 10:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 20/02/2022 8:46 am, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 08:25:56 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 20/02/2022 6:33 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In short, keith shares a lot of DNA with the Fraudster.
>>>>>
>>>>> You seem to have a strange fascination with my DNA kinda kinky really.
>>>>
>>>> Why not? Unlike you, it's an interesting subject, and one with limitless
>>>> possibilities. Like, imagine the world without narcissistic
>>>> sociopaths...
>>>
>>> Well mine lives on in 16 others how about yours?
>>
>> here we go again.. mine is bigger than yours
>
> It probably is.
>
>>> Hopefully the answer is none because the world without narcissistic
>>> sociopaths would be a far better place.
>>
>> you shouldn't talk about your new bff that way. he mightn't like it
>
> Read the context if you have the brain power to do so, it's your bff
> that is being addressed.

Kerrrist!
It's a replay!

alvey

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 by: keithr0 - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 06:45 UTC

On 20/02/2022 2:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 20/02/2022 12:22 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 20/02/2022 6:24 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 20/02/2022 1:32 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 19/02/2022 11:27 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 18/02/2022 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 18/02/2022 12:24 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 17/02/2022 5:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 17/02/2022 12:05 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't "expect answers to [keith blah blah]", but I *do*
>>>>>>>>> expect answers to
>>>>>>>>> legitimate questions concerning claims which someone makes.
>>>>>>>>> Whether you can
>>>>>>>>> see it or not, there's a big difference there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doesn't matter alvey, the bargain is you give answers, you get
>>>>>>>> answers. like it or leave it the choice is yours.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You only answer questions that provide you with an opportunity to
>>>>>>> boost your own ego. You don't answer questions that go to the
>>>>>>> heart of your integrity however, you evade those wholesale.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really? now you get to back up the accusation. Go ahead, make my day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The usual smartarse nonsense from alvey and a fawning follow up to
>>>>> that from xeno, but nothing from clocky? Odd that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh you want an example question that proves you lack integrity?
>>>>
>>>> Here's one:
>>>>
>>>> from the thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Oct 7 2021
>>>>
>>>> You assert to another poster:
>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>> He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>> proven liar.
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. not providing proof doesn't mean the claim is
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> false, only that it's unproven
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>> He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is
>>>> unproven, he
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>> is lying.
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Given your assertion above that "He asserts that the claim is true,
>>>> so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
>>>>
>>>> I then asked:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>> In that case NoddyLiar, claiming he is qualified for which
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>> *no* evidence has been provided or found anywhere, is
>>>> lying.
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>> Agreed?
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your response:
>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>> Whatever.
>>>>
>>>> "Whatever" isn't an answer. Given what you had just stated, "yes"
>>>> was the only answer you could have given here if you had *any*
>>>> integrity at all.
>>>>
>>>> You then went on to evade answering the question as seen below.
>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>>> "yes" is your only option Keith :-)
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>> I choose my own options, thank you.
>>>>  >>>>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>> You only had one option to choose.
>>>>  >>>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>> If there is only one course of action available then there
>>>> are no
>>>>  >>>>>> option - basic logic.
>>>>  >>>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>
>>>>  >>>>> Basic logic says you're fucked.
>>>>  >>>>>
>>>>  >>>>> We will just call this Keef's paradox :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Fill your boots you can, and based on past performance will, believe
>>> anything that you want.
>>
>> They are your own words and prove you dodge questions and lack
>> integrity. That's a problem for you, not me.
>>
> Whatever.

Talk about dodging questions, I don't remember see a reply to the
question of why it should be necessary to clear customer data from an
/ecu in order to clear an error code.

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 07:34 UTC

On 20/02/2022 3:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 20/02/2022 12:22 pm, Clocky wrote:
>> On 20/02/2022 6:24 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 20/02/2022 1:32 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 19/02/2022 11:27 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 18/02/2022 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 18/02/2022 12:24 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 17/02/2022 5:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 17/02/2022 12:05 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't "expect answers to [keith blah blah]", but I *do*
>>>>>>>>> expect answers to
>>>>>>>>> legitimate questions concerning claims which someone makes.
>>>>>>>>> Whether you can
>>>>>>>>> see it or not, there's a big difference there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doesn't matter alvey, the bargain is you give answers, you get
>>>>>>>> answers. like it or leave it the choice is yours.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You only answer questions that provide you with an opportunity
>>>>>>> to boost your own ego. You don't answer questions that go to the
>>>>>>> heart of your integrity however, you evade those wholesale.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really? now you get to back up the accusation. Go ahead, make my
>>>>>> day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The usual smartarse nonsense from alvey and a fawning follow up to
>>>>> that from xeno, but nothing from clocky? Odd that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh you want an example question that proves you lack integrity?
>>>>
>>>> Here's one:
>>>>
>>>> from the thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Oct 7 2021
>>>>
>>>> You assert to another poster:
>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>> He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>> proven liar.
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. not providing proof doesn't mean the claim is
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> false, only that it's unproven
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>> He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is
>>>> unproven, he
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>> is lying.
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Given your assertion above that "He asserts that the claim is true,
>>>> so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
>>>>
>>>> I then asked:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>> In that case NoddyLiar, claiming he is qualified for
>>>> which
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>> *no* evidence has been provided or found anywhere, is
>>>> lying.
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>> Agreed?
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your response:
>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>> Whatever.
>>>>
>>>> "Whatever" isn't an answer. Given what you had just stated, "yes"
>>>> was the only answer you could have given here if you had *any*
>>>> integrity at all.
>>>>
>>>> You then went on to evade answering the question as seen below.
>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>>> "yes" is your only option Keith :-)
>>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>>> I choose my own options, thank you.
>>>>  >>>>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>>> You only had one option to choose.
>>>>  >>>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>> If there is only one course of action available then there
>>>> are no
>>>>  >>>>>> option - basic logic.
>>>>  >>>>>>
>>>>  >>>>>
>>>>  >>>>> Basic logic says you're fucked.
>>>>  >>>>>
>>>>  >>>>> We will just call this Keef's paradox :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Fill your boots you can, and based on past performance will, believe
>>> anything that you want.
>>
>> They are your own words and prove you dodge questions and lack
>> integrity. That's a problem for you, not me.
>>
> Whatever.

'whatever' doesn't cut it

--
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"His opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
"His self serving ego pumping comments just
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 by: Yosemite Sam - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 07:40 UTC

On 20/02/2022 3:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 20/02/2022 11:37 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 20/02/2022 8:43 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 19/02/2022 10:36 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>
>>>> and you're on record saying you don't care if ppl lie or not and it
>>>> doesn't matter if they do. i just told you why it does matter.
>>>> you're an idiot.
>>>
>>> OK show me where I said that I don't care if people lie.
>>
>>
>> ffs are you not following the thread?
>>
>> "For the record, I have no idea what qualifications noddy has or
>> whether he did or did not run a business called noddys automotive,
>> and neither do I care in the least one way or another."
>>
>>
> Where does that condone lying?

you've said you don't care if noddy's claims are true, therefore you
condone lying by implication if they're not ie. you don't care if he's
lying.  (and all indications are that he is)

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam
"His opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
"His self serving ego pumping comments just
read like witless wankery"- Clocky on Keefy

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 07:41 UTC

On 20/02/2022 3:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 20/02/2022 12:02 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 20/02/2022 10:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 20/02/2022 8:46 am, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 08:25:56 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 20/02/2022 6:33 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In short, keith shares a lot of DNA with the Fraudster.
>>>>>
>>>>> You seem to have a strange fascination with my DNA kinda kinky
>>>>> really.
>>>>
>>>> Why not? Unlike you, it's an interesting subject, and one with
>>>> limitless
>>>> possibilities. Like, imagine the world without narcissistic
>>>> sociopaths...
>>>
>>> Well mine lives on in 16 others how about yours?
>>
>>
>> here we go again.. mine is bigger than yours
>
> It probably is.
>
>>> Hopefully the answer is none because the world without narcissistic
>>> sociopaths would be a far better place.
>>
>>
>> you shouldn't talk about your new bff that way. he mightn't like it
>
> Read the context if you have the brain power to do so, it's your bff
> that is being addressed.
>

I knew who you were referring to. look up repartee in a good dictionary

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the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
"His self serving ego pumping comments just
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 by: keithr0 - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 09:13 UTC

On 20/02/2022 5:40 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 20/02/2022 3:36 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 20/02/2022 11:37 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 20/02/2022 8:43 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 19/02/2022 10:36 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> and you're on record saying you don't care if ppl lie or not and it
>>>>> doesn't matter if they do. i just told you why it does matter.
>>>>> you're an idiot.
>>>>
>>>> OK show me where I said that I don't care if people lie.
>>>
>>>
>>> ffs are you not following the thread?
>>>
>>> "For the record, I have no idea what qualifications noddy has or
>>> whether he did or did not run a business called noddys automotive,
>>> and neither do I care in the least one way or another."
>>>
>>>
>> Where does that condone lying?
>
>
> you've said you don't care if noddy's claims are true, therefore you
> condone lying by implication if they're not ie. you don't care if he's
> lying.  (and all indications are that he is)
>
>
No I said that I don't care whether he has any qualifications or not or
whether he owned a business called "Noddys automotive".

If you can't see the difference, ask somebody more intelligent.

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 by: keithr0 - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 09:14 UTC

On 20/02/2022 5:41 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 20/02/2022 3:40 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 20/02/2022 12:02 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 20/02/2022 10:09 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 20/02/2022 8:46 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 08:25:56 +1000, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20/02/2022 6:33 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In short, keith shares a lot of DNA with the Fraudster.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You seem to have a strange fascination with my DNA kinda kinky
>>>>>> really.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not? Unlike you, it's an interesting subject, and one with
>>>>> limitless
>>>>> possibilities. Like, imagine the world without narcissistic
>>>>> sociopaths...
>>>>
>>>> Well mine lives on in 16 others how about yours?
>>>
>>>
>>> here we go again.. mine is bigger than yours
>>
>> It probably is.
>>
>>>> Hopefully the answer is none because the world without narcissistic
>>>> sociopaths would be a far better place.
>>>
>>>
>>> you shouldn't talk about your new bff that way. he mightn't like it
>>
>> Read the context if you have the brain power to do so, it's your bff
>> that is being addressed.
>>
>
> I knew who you were referring to. look up repartee in a good dictionary
>
I know what repartee is, it's just that it's missing from your posts.

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 by: keithr0 - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 09:15 UTC

On 20/02/2022 5:34 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 20/02/2022 3:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 20/02/2022 12:22 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 20/02/2022 6:24 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 20/02/2022 1:32 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 19/02/2022 11:27 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 18/02/2022 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 18/02/2022 12:24 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 17/02/2022 5:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 17/02/2022 12:05 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't "expect answers to [keith blah blah]", but I *do*
>>>>>>>>>> expect answers to
>>>>>>>>>> legitimate questions concerning claims which someone makes.
>>>>>>>>>> Whether you can
>>>>>>>>>> see it or not, there's a big difference there.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Doesn't matter alvey, the bargain is you give answers, you get
>>>>>>>>> answers. like it or leave it the choice is yours.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You only answer questions that provide you with an opportunity
>>>>>>>> to boost your own ego. You don't answer questions that go to the
>>>>>>>> heart of your integrity however, you evade those wholesale.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really? now you get to back up the accusation. Go ahead, make my
>>>>>>> day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The usual smartarse nonsense from alvey and a fawning follow up to
>>>>>> that from xeno, but nothing from clocky? Odd that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh you want an example question that proves you lack integrity?
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's one:
>>>>>
>>>>> from the thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Oct 7 2021
>>>>>
>>>>> You assert to another poster:
>>>>>
>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>> He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>> proven liar.
>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. not providing proof doesn't mean the claim is
>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> false, only that it's unproven
>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>> He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is
>>>>> unproven, he
>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>> is lying.
>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Given your assertion above that "He asserts that the claim is true,
>>>>> so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
>>>>>
>>>>> I then asked:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>> In that case NoddyLiar, claiming he is qualified for
>>>>> which
>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>> *no* evidence has been provided or found anywhere, is
>>>>> lying.
>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>> Agreed?
>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Your response:
>>>>>
>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>> Whatever.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Whatever" isn't an answer. Given what you had just stated, "yes"
>>>>> was the only answer you could have given here if you had *any*
>>>>> integrity at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> You then went on to evade answering the question as seen below.
>>>>>
>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>  >>>>>>>>> "yes" is your only option Keith :-)
>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>  >>>>>>>> I choose my own options, thank you.
>>>>>  >>>>>>>
>>>>>  >>>>>>> You only had one option to choose.
>>>>>  >>>>>>
>>>>>  >>>>>> If there is only one course of action available then there
>>>>> are no
>>>>>  >>>>>> option - basic logic.
>>>>>  >>>>>>
>>>>>  >>>>>
>>>>>  >>>>> Basic logic says you're fucked.
>>>>>  >>>>>
>>>>>  >>>>> We will just call this Keef's paradox :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Fill your boots you can, and based on past performance will, believe
>>>> anything that you want.
>>>
>>> They are your own words and prove you dodge questions and lack
>>> integrity. That's a problem for you, not me.
>>>
>> Whatever.
>
>
> 'whatever' doesn't cut it
>
It cuts it for me, if it doesn't for you then that's your problem.

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Sun, 20 Feb 2022 10:19 UTC

On 20/02/2022 8:15 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 20/02/2022 5:34 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 20/02/2022 3:41 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 20/02/2022 12:22 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 20/02/2022 6:24 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 20/02/2022 1:32 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 19/02/2022 11:27 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 18/02/2022 2:56 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 18/02/2022 12:24 pm, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 17/02/2022 5:38 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 17/02/2022 12:05 pm, alvey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't "expect answers to [keith blah blah]", but I *do*
>>>>>>>>>>> expect answers to
>>>>>>>>>>> legitimate questions concerning claims which someone makes.
>>>>>>>>>>> Whether you can
>>>>>>>>>>> see it or not, there's a big difference there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't matter alvey, the bargain is you give answers, you
>>>>>>>>>> get answers. like it or leave it the choice is yours.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You only answer questions that provide you with an opportunity
>>>>>>>>> to boost your own ego. You don't answer questions that go to
>>>>>>>>> the heart of your integrity however, you evade those wholesale.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Really? now you get to back up the accusation. Go ahead, make
>>>>>>>> my day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The usual smartarse nonsense from alvey and a fawning follow up
>>>>>>> to that from xeno, but nothing from clocky? Odd that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh you want an example question that proves you lack integrity?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's one:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> from the thread "May need to buy petrol soon" Oct 7 2021
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You assert to another poster:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>> He made the assertion either he proves it or he is a
>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>> proven liar.
>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> nonsense. not providing proof doesn't mean the
>>>>>> claim is
>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> false, only that it's unproven
>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>> He asserts that the claim is true, so, if it is
>>>>>> unproven, he
>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>> is lying.
>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Given your assertion above that "He asserts that the claim is
>>>>>> true, so, if it is unproven, he is lying."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I then asked:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>> In that case NoddyLiar, claiming he is qualified for
>>>>>> which
>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>> *no* evidence has been provided or found anywhere,
>>>>>> is lying.
>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>> Agreed?
>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your response:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>> Whatever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Whatever" isn't an answer. Given what you had just stated, "yes"
>>>>>> was the only answer you could have given here if you had *any*
>>>>>> integrity at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You then went on to evade answering the question as seen below.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>> "yes" is your only option Keith :-)
>>>>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  >>>>>>>> I choose my own options, thank you.
>>>>>>  >>>>>>>
>>>>>>  >>>>>>> You only had one option to choose.
>>>>>>  >>>>>>
>>>>>>  >>>>>> If there is only one course of action available then
>>>>>> there are no
>>>>>>  >>>>>> option - basic logic.
>>>>>>  >>>>>>
>>>>>>  >>>>>
>>>>>>  >>>>> Basic logic says you're fucked.
>>>>>>  >>>>>
>>>>>>  >>>>> We will just call this Keef's paradox :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Fill your boots you can, and based on past performance will,
>>>>> believe anything that you want.
>>>>
>>>> They are your own words and prove you dodge questions and lack
>>>> integrity. That's a problem for you, not me.
>>>>
>>> Whatever.
>>
>>
>> 'whatever' doesn't cut it
>>
> It cuts it for me, if it doesn't for you then that's your problem.

no, it's your problem because you are being irrational and illogical and
dishonest as clocky proved

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the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
"His self serving ego pumping comments just
read like witless wankery"- Clocky on Keefy

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