On 11/01/2022 10:58 am, Xeno wrote:
> On 11/1/22 7:02 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 21:38:38 +1100, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/01/2022 7:09 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 10/01/2022 3:14 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>
>>>>> hey jonzie instead of sucking up to your hero with the intensity of a
>>>>> thousand vacuum cleaners, I suggest you ask him how he knows 'for a
>>>>> fact' Xeno never taught at Richmond Tech? oh sorry, I forgot you don't
>>>>> care about lies anymore since you joined the dark side..
>>>>
>>>> ROTFL, from the guy spending his days sucking up to alvey, xeno, and
>>>> clocky.
>>>
>>> Felix is pretty stupid :)
>>>
>>> It's pretty easy Fetid. I was there, and Clasener wasn't. It's that
>>> simple :)
>>
>> Bad news Fraudster. The reality is that we're years past your claims
>> having
>> any credibility. He has proof, you don't. "It's that simple".
>>
>>
>>
>> alvey
>>
> Have to give Darren one point, he didn't say what or where *there* is.
> Such vagueness is a hallmark of his.
>
> Let's clarify it for him.
>
> Darren was lying about doing it (an apprenticeship, working in the
> trade) and I was doing it (apprenticeship completed, trade experience
> amassed) and it was the depth and breadth of my post apprenticeship
> training and experience that permitted me to be employed as an
> automotive teacher. Normally requires advance trade at technician level
> for entry. You know, what is regarded as Cert 4 these days.
>
> And I provided proof - though not to Darren given what he threatened to
> do with it. Remember what he said - he would have put it *all around the
> internet* and the poor little troll is worried about someone (re)posting
> *his* precious pics. Darren seems to believe that the rules he applies
> to others don't apply to him.
>

Always. He's was always quick to remind people that the onus was on them
to provide proof of their claims but he thought that rule only applied
to others, not himself.

That's not how it works.

On 11/01/2022 8:36 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 11/01/2022 5:56 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 11/01/2022 2:46 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 at 01:08:47 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>
>>>> the way you posted them ppl had to clik each one, and they loaded
>>>> slowly, as some complained. I put them all on one page, and as I recall
>>>> at least one person was appreciative. I think it was fred. but you
>>>> being
>>>> the mental retard that you are, couldn't fathom that that was a good
>>>> thing. doing something nice for your fellow man is never in your
>>>> agenda,
>>>> or what passes for your mind.
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~```
>>> Diddums want a hanky?.... <G>
>>
>> Felix, you're a fucking idiot. If I *wanted* that done I'm more than
>> capable of doing it myself.
>
>
> I doubt that very much. or perhaps you could point me to some websites
> you've created, or some domain that you own?
>
>
>> I don't need a retard the likes of you to "help" me. Quite simply, how
>> & where I posted them was none of your business, and it wasn't your
>> job to correct it.
>>
>> Glad to have jogged your memory, but you need to appreciate that not
>> everyone wants you to do them "favours".
>>
>>
>
> I wasn't doing YOU a favor, I was doing the ppl here a favor, you
> fucking moron.
>
>

He should do his own kid a favour and put a provided seat belt on him
which is his legal and moral obligation but hey, since he can't be
bothered with that don't expect him to be able to comprehend that
sometimes people do favours for others.

On 12/01/2022 12:51 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 11/01/2022 7:51 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 11/01/2022 6:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>>> Yeah. Didn't understand the concept of valve *float* and valve
>>> *overshoot*, both circumstances that can lead to valve impact if
>>> insufficient clearance is allowed - and a thinner shim head gasket
>>> will take that clearance down by a *lot*. I didn't expect Darren to
>>> be able to do it but I did expect Daryl to know how it's done. He is
>>> *supposedly* qualified after all. Too much time pushing a broom I
>>> guess. Checking piston to valve clearance isn't rocket science by
>>> any means and there's plenty of info on the net for the uninitiated.
>>> But to fit a thinner head gasket and *not* check the clearance,
>>> that's nothing short of *criminal*.
>>> The funny thing is, I was expecting it to be a more esoteric cause,
>>> lean combustion, injectors at 100% duty cycle or MAF sensor pinning.
>>> I was overthinking it and not making sufficient allowance for the
>>> two clowns who were working on the 4AGE(20). I trust Les has learnt
>>> his lesson.
>>>
>> So it's his fault the engine failed even though he advised Les that
>> there were serious issues with the engine and failure was likely.
>
> Actually, it was *not* my fault that the engine died, and I'll go into
> some detail as to why that is to put this ridiculous bullshit claim of
> Clasener's to bed :)
>
>> I'm  guessing Les wanted to compete and went with the motor anyway as
>> availability of a replacement motor in a limited timeframe may have
>> been an issue.
>
> The issue with this engine was that Les was trying to build it on a
> budget, using parts from an engine that had already failed before I
> ever laid my hands on it.
>
>> Wouldn't be the first time someone has failed to take advice and it's
>> cost them dearly.
>
> No, but in fairness to Les and myself, the cause of this engine's
> demise had nothing to do with either of us. Well, at least certainly
> not me :)
>
> For those who don't know and who may be half interested in discovering
> the truth of this matter, the engine in question was a Toyota 4AGE 20
> valve, known as a "Gold Top" of I remember correctly, and this is the
> engine here:
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PME
>
> It's a 1600cc 4 cylinder "high performance" engine that has a fairly
> high output for it's capacity and a healthy appetite for rpm, which
> Daryl's mate Les used to use in his Lotus 7 Replica for competition work:
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69Q3J
>
> Now, it's been Clasener's claim for a while that this engine died as a
> result of insufficient piston to valve clearance, and this is claim is
> absolutely fraudulent. It is a complete fabrication invented by
> Clasener for the sole purpose of having something to argue about. In
> reality, and as usual, he is *completely* wrong and has achieved
> nothing other than making a complete moron out of himself.
>
> Allow me to show how :)
>
> This engine was originally brought to me in around August of 2016
> after it had suffered a catastrophic failure. It actually broke a
> factory rod through the beam, which trashed the block and made a mess
> of the head, and damaged the crank and piston.
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PTY
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PU1
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PU3
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PU4
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PU6
>
> This failure occurred before I had done any serious work on this
> engine, and in fact up until this point about all I had ever done to
> the engine was to fabricate a baffle for the oil pan and measure it's
> capacity while it was off, as the pan had been shortened to suit the
> chassis and it's oil level needed to be measured.
>
> Once this engine was dismantled Les set off to find a replacement
> engine, and the cylinder head was taken to his guys who had worked it
> before to repair the damage and make some new valves.
>
> Once all the parts were finally obtained they were delivered to me and
> my job was to assemble the engine, modify the windage tray and oil
> pick up to suit the oil pan, set the valve clearances and dial in the
> camshafts. Only parts of the replacement engine were used, principally
> the block and crank, as other parts from the old engine were still
> perfectly serviceable. The three surviving pistons from the old engine
> were retained as they were already oversize which allowed the new
> block to be bored to suit them, and a 4th piston was machined up from
> a semi finished blank to replace the one that was damaged from the old
> engine.
>
> New after market connecting rods were used, and despite the damage it
> suffered the original cylinder head was retained as it had already
> been subject to extensive port work and it was highly desirable for
> that not to be lost. The original camshafts were put back into service.
>
> The engine went together will with only a few niggles worth noting.
> The main one was that the person doing the bore and hone work was
> pretty average and their sizings were all over the place. The crank
> grind was perfect with exact sizes from front to rear, and the new
> rods were very good.
>
> This is the windage tray and oil pickup:
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PLQ
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PLR
>
> Normally this oil pickup would sit up about 3 inches higher than this,
> and the slot cut into the windage tray wouldn't be necessary. But
> because this engine sat so low in the chassis and didn't run a dry
> sump system it was necessary to bury this pickup as high up into the
> engine as possible so it would clear the modified oil pan, and it only
> cleared the crank web by about half an inch.  The brazing on the
> bottom of the pickup tube where it goes into the timing cover is were
> it was cut and shortened.
>
> Here, after final clearance checking, the short motor is assembled.
> Crank bolts triple torqued as per specifications and rod bolt tension
> set with a stretch gauge. Al the bottom end clearances were right down
> the middle which is exactly where I wanted them to be.
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69RAI
>
> Now we get to the juicy stuff which will show Clasener up as the shit
> talking clueless windbag that he is.
>
> Here's a few pics of the top of the engine and with the gasket in
> place before the head is finally ready to go on:
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PLP
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PLS
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PLT
>
> Now, to the keen eye there's a few things to observe in these pics.
>
> In the first instance, you can see the three used pistons which were
> in excellent shape, and the one new one. Secondly, you can see the
> competition head gasket that was used, which is a compressible gasket
> and not a "shim" as Clasener incorrectly refers to it, and lastly you
> can see the remains of the pink plasticine that was used to check the
> pison to valve clearances on the exhaust valve releifs of the number
> one piston :)
>
> Inlet and exhaust clearances where checked on all four pistons which
> is standard procedure, and especially in an engine using non standard
> connecting rods, but residue of the plasticine only remained on the
> exhaust cut outs on the number one piston as they were a rough "as
> cast" finish where all the other surfaces were machined smooth. I
> wasn't all that fussed about cleaning it off as it would burn off the
> moment the engine was first fired :)
>
> Setting the valve clearances was the last major task:
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PM9
>
> This is with the cams removed obviously, and the various markings on
> the head show where I'd been measuring clearances and swapping shims
> around to get within spec.
>
> The 4AEG engine uses a cam follower bucket system as can be seen, with
> the clearance adjustment shim being a small pad not much bigger in
> diameter than the valve stem that sits in a recessed pocket in the
> bottom of the bucket between the bucket and valve tip. The come in
> various thicknesses, but unless you have access to a great many of
> them setting the valve clearances on engines like these can be a pain.
> Especially when the people doing the cylinder head work aren't all
> that concerned about how much they cut out of the seat or they grind
> off the tip of the valve.
>
> It took an entire day to set the clearances using the limited
> assortment of shims that I had, and in the end I had to grind many of
> them on the surface grinder using a custom jig to hold them securely
> on the magnetic chuck.
>
> Finally, the clearances were set and the camshafts installed for good,
> and it was ready for it's timing belt and to be put back into the car.
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69S4W
>
> So, after all this long winded chest beating, what have we learned?
>
> What we've learned is that apart from a little bit of piston to bore
> clearance variation which Les was advised could lead to a bit of ring
> flutter and oil control problem, this engine went together well and
> had no clearance issues whatsoever. The engine was installed back into
> the car and test fired by me and it fired straight up with excellent
> oil pressure and had no temperature issues.
>
> At this point the car was handed back to Les were it was booked into a
> dyno session. It ran the dyno session successfully where it bed in
> nicely, and as Les was still playing with tune settings a second dyno
> session was booked not long after. Subsequently to this it did a full
> test and tune day at Winton raceway before it was packed onto it's
> trailer and taken to Bathurst for a class race meeting which was the
> ultimate purpose of having done all this work in the first place.
>
> And it was at Bathurst where things turned to shit.
>
> On the seventh Lap of Les's race, as he was coming through the Chase
> at the end of Conrod Straight, the engine had a change of exhaust note
> and blew a heavy plume of white smoke out of the exhaust. It was
> instantaneous, and it was abundantly clear that something in the
> engine had broken, and it's race meeting was over.
>
> Les returned to Melbourne and brought the car around for me to look at
> where he showed me the video of the failure taking place, and after
> pulling a plug and looking into the cylinder with a Borescope it was
> obvious that the engine had dropped a valve and suffered a terminal
> failure.
>
> I didn't do anything else to it, and Les went home with his tail
> between his legs and pulled the engine apart to see for himself. Once
> he did, he sent me these photos.
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PMI
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PMH
>
> What these pictures show is that an exhaust valve on number one
> cylinder has hit a piston, but moreover it did so while the valve was
> fully open at the limit of it's travel. That much is obvious from the
> fact that the valve was snapped off around half way up it's stem, and
> as the piston turned it sideways and tried to bury it into the seat
> pocket it caused the piston to rock in it's bore pushing it hard up
> against the cylinder wall and splitting it open.
>
> Anyone who has even the most "basic" of engine experience will tell
> you that this is most decidedly *not* the result of inadequate piston
> to valve clearance :)
>
> In the case of piston to valve clearance issues, you mostly see it on
> inlet valves as with big overlap cams like this engine ran the inlet
> valve begins opening very early while the piston is still moving up
> the bore towards top dead centre. As the two are moving towards each
> other interference can occur if clearances are not where they're
> supposed to be. In the case of exhaust valves it's a different story
> as the exhaust valve is moving *away* from the piston as the piston
> nears top dead centre, and as a result piston to valve contact with
> exhaust valves is quite rare. Not impossible, but certainly far less
> likely than it can be with inlet valves.
>
> However in either case the net result is usually the same in that
> unless you have things stupidly wrong about the most you'll ever see
> happen in the case of piston to valve contact near the very end
> (exhaust) or very beginning (inlet) of the valve's period is for the
> valve to bend slightly just behind the head, which will result in the
> valve no longer sealing against it's seat resulting in a loss of
> compression in that cylinder.
>
> And that is *not* what happened in the case of Les's engine.
>
> In Les's case the exhaust valve came into contact with the piston
> while the valve was at or near the fully open position, and there is
> basically only two ways for that to occur. Either the valve grabbed in
> it's guide, or it "dropped" into the cylinder after losing a collet or
> had a collet groove failure which unloaded the valve spring. I never
> got to see the remains of the top half of the valve so I can't tell
> you exactly, and while I wasn't at the track to see where Les was
> running his mixtures and have no idea how hot it was getting I'd
> happily bet that Les was running the thing fairly conservatively given
> that he had a habit of doing so and was familiar with the setup of the
> vehicle. Either the valve guide clearance was too tight or the valve
> failed prematurely, but either way given that I had nothing to do with
> the head it had nothing to do with me.
>
> Some important points to bear in mind here are that a piston to valve
> clearance issue is a mechanical issue that is evident from the first
> time the engine is turned over in extreme cases, and certainly from
> the first time the engine reaches operating temperature in borderline
> cases. However in *all* cases it is *not* a problem that will suddenly
> magically appear after an engine has done some time at full noise like
> this one did, and if Clasener and and his clog wearing puppy dog had
> *any* idea at all they would *know* this.
>
> But apparently they did not. Or they did and ignored it and just
> invented whatever bullshit story they wanted to crow about, because
> hey it's not like they've never done that before, right?
>
> These people are fucking *imbeciles* who would be incapable of holding
> down a job for more than a day in any decent workshop where you had to
> reply on your skills and knowledge to get by....
>
>> You really need to get over your obsession with abusing Noddy. You're
>> not perfect yourself and anyone who saw the tractor split would agree.
>
> "Not perfect" is being extremely generous. Completely clueless would
> be more accurate.
>
>

On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 17:56:06 +1100, Noddy wrote:

> On 11/01/2022 2:46 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 at 01:08:47 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>>> the way you posted them ppl had to clik each one, and they loaded
>>> slowly, as some complained. I put them all on one page, and as I recall
>>> at least one person was appreciative. I think it was fred. but you being
>>> the mental retard that you are, couldn't fathom that that was a good
>>> thing. doing something nice for your fellow man is never in your agenda,
>>> or what passes for your mind.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~```
>> Diddums want a hanky?.... <G>
>
> Felix, you're a fucking idiot. If I *wanted* that done I'm more than
> capable of doing it myself.

Hmmmm. Get back to you on that...

> I don't need a retard the likes of you to "help" me.
> Quite simply, how & where I posted them was none of your business,

Ummm, public forum Der Der.

> and it wasn't your job to correct it.
>
> Glad to have jogged your memory, but you need to appreciate that not
> everyone wants you to do them "favours".

Well you've 'miscomprehended' *again* there Fraudster, but there's another
angle that you need your memory jogged on. Swings and Roundabouts. Remember
how felix helpfully corrected your badly flawed new car buying strategy? I
do. Swings and Roundabouts. Oddly though I can't recall you thanking him.
Or even your admission of error.

alvey

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On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 22:18:56 +0800, Clocky wrote:

> On 11/01/2022 8:36 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 11/01/2022 5:56 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 11/01/2022 2:46 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 at 01:08:47 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>
>>>>> the way you posted them ppl had to clik each one, and they loaded
>>>>> slowly, as some complained. I put them all on one page, and as I recall
>>>>> at least one person was appreciative. I think it was fred. but you
>>>>> being
>>>>> the mental retard that you are, couldn't fathom that that was a good
>>>>> thing. doing something nice for your fellow man is never in your
>>>>> agenda,
>>>>> or what passes for your mind.
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~```
>>>> Diddums want a hanky?.... <G>
>>>
>>> Felix, you're a fucking idiot. If I *wanted* that done I'm more than
>>> capable of doing it myself.
>>
>> I doubt that very much. or perhaps you could point me to some websites
>> you've created, or some domain that you own?
>>
>>> I don't need a retard the likes of you to "help" me. Quite simply, how
>>> & where I posted them was none of your business, and it wasn't your
>>> job to correct it.
>>>
>>> Glad to have jogged your memory, but you need to appreciate that not
>>> everyone wants you to do them "favours".
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I wasn't doing YOU a favor, I was doing the ppl here a favor, you
>> fucking moron.
>>
>
> He should do his own kid a favour and put a provided seat belt on him
> which is his legal and moral obligation but hey, since he can't be
> bothered with that don't expect him to be able to comprehend that
> sometimes people do favours for others.

Fraudster is so mean-spirited and self-centred that he charges his
imaginary friends $200 for "car spotting"...

alvey

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On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 23:04:01 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:

> On 11/01/2022 10:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 11/1/22 11:23 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>> On 11/01/2022 8:10 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>
>>> Nothing that was worthwhile reading.
>>>
>>> You just don't get it xeno. Nobody gives a toss about your obsession.
>>> Build a bridge.
>>>
>
> Snipped more bile.

"bile"? Jaysus Gumps! If that was bile, how would you describe the average
Fraudster post? (You do read them don't you?)

> You DON'T get it do you. NOBODY cares.

I care! Sorry... I CARE!
> Get over your obsession.

Gumpspeak: Something that looks like English but isn't.

alvey

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On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 00:51:19 +1100, Noddy wrote:

snip reams of attempted blame-shifting.

You prepared the engine. It failed on lap one. "It's that simple".

alvey
Fraudster sure likes taking pix. It must be something he started doing
after selling NA of A...

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On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 23:43:13 +1100, Yosemite Sam wrote:

> On 11/01/2022 6:45 pm, alvey wrote:

>>
>> alvey
>> Chuckling somewhat hysterically at the thought of Fraudster LLB.
>>
>
> Noddy's legal service, lol

Working title: 'Noddy Lowers The Bar'

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On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 19:20:39 +1000, keithr0 wrote:

> On 11/01/2022 12:19 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 10/01/2022 10:48 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 10/01/2022 2:59 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>> On 10/01/2022 2:58 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm an arsehole
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ok
>>>>
>>> I see what you did there felix, very clever and witty too clap clap clap.
>>>
>>> Alvey will have to watch out, if you keep this standard of work up, he
>>> may become surplus to requirements.
>>
>> I'm not as clever as he
>>
> You're not even as clever as alvey? You poor thing, you must be the
> weakest link.

St. Keith - Patron saint of the Trite and Predictable.

alvey

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On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 23:48:39 +1100, Yosemite Sam wrote:

> On 11/01/2022 8:20 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 11/01/2022 12:19 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 10/01/2022 10:48 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 10/01/2022 2:59 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>>>> On 10/01/2022 2:58 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm an arsehole
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok
>>>>>
>>>> I see what you did there felix, very clever and witty too clap clap
>>>> clap.
>>>>
>>>> Alvey will have to watch out, if you keep this standard of work up,
>>>> he may become surplus to requirements.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not as clever as he
>>>
>>>
>> You're not even as clever as alvey?
>
> yes, I'm just being honest

You can afford to be when you have nothing to hide and can handle reality.

alvey

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On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 19:25:39 +1000, keithr0 wrote:

> On 11/01/2022 6:29 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 15:59:31 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>
>> Anyone watch the last session of the SCG Test?
>>
>> If you thought it was tense, spare a thought for those of us who'd put
>> their money on a draw. "Could I have another bourbon and beta blocker
>> thanks?"
>
> Not a single fuck was given around here.

Little Known Fact: There are actually two 'Mile High Clubs'. The one where
you have a meaningful interface mid-flight, and the lesser known one where
something passes a mile over your head.

btw keith, am still waiting for you to answer my question to you re your
opinion on the validity of *all* the Fraudsters' Big Claims.

oty. Again.

alvey

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On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 at 19:03:19 UTC+11, Xeno wrote:
> On 11/1/22 6:33 pm, Clocky wrote:
> > On 11/01/2022 11:27 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >> On 11/01/2022 2:16 pm, Xeno wrote:
> >>> On 11/1/22 1:20 pm, Noddy wrote:
> >>>> On 11/01/2022 12:30 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, 9 January 2022 at 16:53:27 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> yes but ppl want them where they put them, not for them to be posted
> >>>>>> elsewhere to identify someone. and if you think otherwise, you
> >>>>>> must be
> >>>>>> ok with parents kiddy snaps being copied and posted on child porno
> >>>>>> sites.
> >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>> Really?, I have to ask how *you* would know such things?. From what
> >>>>> you`ve said you apparently have *seen* such child porno sites??.
> >>>>> Hmmmmm.
> >>>>
> >>>> He likes to call people "pedophiles", so maybe there's a bit of
> >>>> projection going on there.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Nope, just reacting to the *image* you project here when posting
> >>> about 10 year olds and sand up little girl's vaginas. You are the one
> >>> with the fetish, not felix.
> >>>
> >>
> >> +1. and not to mention his anal fetish also. disgusting creature it is.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Yet the faux outrage and threats of legal action over a link to some
> > horse porn or whatever it was... and it turns out I was 100% correct on
> > the law and he was 100% wrong.
> >
> > The fucking glass jawed idiot :-)
> >
> >
> >
> Speaking of legal action, notice how Darren *supposedly* closed his
> *business* recently. That was, no doubt, due to the fact that he learnt
> here that he had been making *fraudulent claims* of qualifications
> pertinent to that business, including membership of the VACC. That
> leaves him wide open to legal action. I wonder if the VACC are looking
> into his activities? They are interested in getting fakers out of the
> trade. And he did make some very fraudulent claims.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Made the call yet? Dobbing would be right up yer (and others) alley.! <G>
0 > --
> Xeno
>
>
> Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
> (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 at 23:28:59 UTC+11, Xeno wrote:
> On 11/1/22 11:23 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> > On 11/01/2022 8:10 pm, Xeno wrote:
> >
> > Nothing that was worthwhile reading.
> >
> > You just don't get it xeno. Nobody gives a toss about your obsession.
> > Build a bridge.
> >
> Your problem is that you don't understand what Darren did, or in this
> case, didn't do. Learn one thing from my writings - don't defend the
> indefensible because that is exactly what you were doing. Your car was
> repaired by a bunch of incompetents, you saw the outcome. Les' car was
> worked on by a pair of incompetents, Les saw the outcome. Both outcomes
> weren't good by any stretch of the imagination. You at least had some
> redress with your issue. Les did not as Darren fobbed him of with the
> excuse it was a faulty valve. Les ended up with a totalled engine.
>
> Stick to networking, that's your field, motor mechanics is mine.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Since when?, you silly fuckin' theory riddled failure..

btw,
you should stay shtum. Every time you put finger to keyboard you reinforce ppl`s opinion of yer lying, big noting self....
> --
> Xeno
>
>
> Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
> (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 at 23:35:04 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 11/01/2022 5:56 pm, Noddy wrote:
> > On 11/01/2022 2:46 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 at 01:08:47 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> >
> >>> the way you posted them ppl had to clik each one, and they loaded
> >>> slowly, as some complained. I put them all on one page, and as I recall
> >>> at least one person was appreciative. I think it was fred. but you
> >>> being
> >>> the mental retard that you are, couldn't fathom that that was a good
> >>> thing. doing something nice for your fellow man is never in your
> >>> agenda,
> >>> or what passes for your mind.
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~```
> >> Diddums want a hanky?.... <G>
> >
> > Felix, you're a fucking idiot. If I *wanted* that done I'm more than
> > capable of doing it myself.
> I doubt that very much. or perhaps you could point me to some websites
> you've created, or some domain that you own?
~~~
Hey, it was concerning *his* pics that were *fucked about with* by *you*.
Nothing more, nothing less!. Get off yer high horse petey..

> > I don't need a retard the likes of you to "help" me. Quite simply, how
> > & where I posted them was none of your business, and it wasn't your
> > job to correct it.
> >
> > Glad to have jogged your memory, but you need to appreciate that not
> > everyone wants you to do them "favours".
> >
> >
> I wasn't doing YOU a favor, I was doing the ppl here a favor, you
> fucking moron.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Theres nothing more scawwy than pete in full flight. (well, krypsis and a few others as well.) <BG>
> --
> "his opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
> the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster

On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 at 23:40:08 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 11/01/2022 6:17 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 at 14:03:19 UTC+11, Xeno wrote:
> >> On 11/1/22 7:29 am, alvey wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 15:59:31 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Anyone watch the last session of the SCG Test?
> >>>
> >>> If you thought it was tense, spare a thought for those of us who'd put
> >>> their money on a draw. "Could I have another bourbon and beta blocker
> >>> thanks?"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> alvey
> >> Watched it, saw the Pom's strategy - block everything, no wild risks of
> >> getting out. After that finish, my wife's become a bit of a cricket
> >> tragic. She watched as much of the cricket as she watched of the tennis.
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > It was (in the main) a dismal debacle. Not surprised yer cook liked it.
> > After all, a dismal debacle is what she is used to.
> >
> you don't even have a cook so stfu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Straight into the deep end (as per).. Watch ya don`t drown petey. HAHAHAHA.

> --
> "his opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
> the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster

On 12/01/2022 10:44 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 at 19:03:19 UTC+11, Xeno wrote:

>> Speaking of legal action, notice how Darren *supposedly* closed his
>> *business* recently. That was, no doubt, due to the fact that he learnt
>> here that he had been making *fraudulent claims* of qualifications
>> pertinent to that business, including membership of the VACC. That
>> leaves him wide open to legal action. I wonder if the VACC are looking
>> into his activities? They are interested in getting fakers out of the
>> trade. And he did make some very fraudulent claims.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Made the call yet? Dobbing would be right up yer (and others) alley.! <G>

ROTFL :)

The VACC has no authority to "look into" anyone They're a private motor
trade association, not a government department. Once again the ckueless
fuckwit proves how clueless he actually is :)

Hey Kryppy? Worked out the difference between piston to valve clearance
issues and the damage resulting from a valve failure yet?

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 12/01/2022 4:19 am, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 23:04:01 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>
>> On 11/01/2022 10:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 11/1/22 11:23 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>> On 11/01/2022 8:10 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Nothing that was worthwhile reading.
>>>>
>>>> You just don't get it xeno. Nobody gives a toss about your obsession.
>>>> Build a bridge.
>>>>
>>
>> Snipped more bile.
>
> "bile"? Jaysus Gumps! If that was bile, how would you describe the average
> Fraudster post? (You do read them don't you?)
>
>> You DON'T get it do you. NOBODY cares.
>
> I care! Sorry... I CARE!
>

NOBODY accepts that NOBODY CARES if SOMEONE took the time to respond.

>> Get over your obsession.
>
> Gumpspeak: Something that looks like English but isn't.
>
>
>
> alvey
>
>
>
>
>

On 12/01/2022 11:21 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 at 23:35:04 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:

>>>
>>> Felix, you're a fucking idiot. If I *wanted* that done I'm more than
>>> capable of doing it myself.
>> I doubt that very much. or perhaps you could point me to some websites
>> you've created, or some domain that you own?
> ~~~
> Hey, it was concerning *his* pics that were *fucked about with* by *you*.
> Nothing more, nothing less!. Get off yer high horse petey..

Yep. What he did or *why* he was doing it is completely irrelevant. The
reality is that it wasn't his place to do so, and in an added irony
attraction he must feel like an even bigger fuckwit now that he's been
reminded of this in light of his recent comments about leaving people's
pictures where they are.

>>> Glad to have jogged your memory, but you need to appreciate that not
>>> everyone wants you to do them "favours".
>>>
>>>
>> I wasn't doing YOU a favor, I was doing the ppl here a favor, you
>> fucking moron.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Theres nothing more scawwy than pete in full flight. (well, krypsis and a few others as well.) <BG>

Again, irrespective of *why* he was doing it, it was not his place to do
so.

Simple fact of the matter here Felix is *no one* asked for your help, so
fuck up and mind your business.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 12/01/2022 11:08 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 at 23:28:59 UTC+11, Xeno wrote:

>> Your problem is that you don't understand what Darren did, or in this
>> case, didn't do. Learn one thing from my writings - don't defend the
>> indefensible because that is exactly what you were doing. Your car was
>> repaired by a bunch of incompetents, you saw the outcome. Les' car was
>> worked on by a pair of incompetents, Les saw the outcome. Both outcomes
>> weren't good by any stretch of the imagination. You at least had some
>> redress with your issue. Les did not as Darren fobbed him of with the
>> excuse it was a faulty valve. Les ended up with a totalled engine.
>>
>> Stick to networking, that's your field, motor mechanics is mine.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Since when?, you silly fuckin' theory riddled failure..

Bwahahahahahahaha :)

What "trade" has he been involved with in the last almost 30 years?
Talking shit on the internet seems to be about it. It's certainly *not*
to do with anything automotive :)

> btw,
> you should stay shtum. Every time you put finger to keyboard you reinforce ppl`s opinion of yer lying, big noting self....

Don't forget clueless. A fact he seems incredibly keen to remind
everyone of every time he posts.

--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

On 12/1/22 12:51 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 11/01/2022 7:51 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>> On 11/01/2022 6:35 pm, Xeno wrote:
>
>>> Yeah. Didn't understand the concept of valve *float* and valve
>>> *overshoot*, both circumstances that can lead to valve impact if
>>> insufficient clearance is allowed - and a thinner shim head gasket
>>> will take that clearance down by a *lot*. I didn't expect Darren to
>>> be able to do it but I did expect Daryl to know how it's done. He is
>>> *supposedly* qualified after all. Too much time pushing a broom I
>>> guess. Checking piston to valve clearance isn't rocket science by any
>>> means and there's plenty of info on the net for the uninitiated. But
>>> to fit a thinner head gasket and *not* check the clearance, that's
>>> nothing short of *criminal*.
>>> The funny thing is, I was expecting it to be a more esoteric cause,
>>> lean combustion, injectors at 100% duty cycle or MAF sensor pinning.
>>> I was overthinking it and not making sufficient allowance for the two
>>> clowns who were working on the 4AGE(20). I trust Les has learnt his
>>> lesson.
>>>
>> So it's his fault the engine failed even though he advised Les that
>> there were serious issues with the engine and failure was likely.
>
> Actually, it was *not* my fault that the engine died, and I'll go into
> some detail as to why that is to put this ridiculous bullshit claim of
> Clasener's to bed :)

You worked on it, you didn't understand the *need* for clearance checking.

<snipped irrelevant bullshit>
>
> This is with the cams removed obviously, and the various markings on the
> head show where I'd been measuring clearances and swapping shims around
> to get within spec.
>
> The 4AEG engine uses a cam follower bucket system as can be seen, with
> the clearance adjustment shim being a small pad not much bigger in
> diameter than the valve stem that sits in a recessed pocket in the
> bottom of the bucket between the bucket and valve tip. The come in

So what? The Marina had that exact same system and they hark back to the
*70s*. Done lots of them during overhauls and head work. If the OHC head
uses decent valves and seats, then valve clearance adjustments *in
service* are rare. Usually they only need setting if valve work is being
done for some reason or the engine is being overhauled.

> various thicknesses, but unless you have access to a great many of them

I had boxes of them, all size marked. Even measured and marked the
second hand ones I amassed. Did you know you could buy them in *sets*?
They weren't expensive. And you got to charge them out to the job if you
had a *real business*. It Ok, we know your business was fake.

> setting the valve clearances on engines like these can be a pain.

Just need to follow the process, measure clearances, remove shims and
measure those, calculate new shim sizes and refit to suit - IOW, be
methodical. Time consuming but not a pain, especially given they rarely
go out of adjustment in service. In fact, if the valves can be kept
cool, you may never need to do a valve adjustment in the *service life*
of the engine. Used to do a lot of work on the old side valve Ford V8
engines. No means of adjustment whatsoever is provided for valve
clearance. All you can do is remove metal from the stem tip and that
will normally only be done at rebuild time. especially since you need to
remove heads and valves, including guides, to do it. Never had to do
clearances on one of those outside of rebuilds. Hmmm, that would have
changed once they removed the tetra-ethyl lead from petrol, valve seat
recession and all. Stelite faced valves and seats would be the go there.

> Especially when the people doing the cylinder head work aren't all that
> concerned about how much they cut out of the seat or they grind off the
> tip of the valve.

It's the job of the engine builder, don't sweat it.
>
> It took an entire day to set the clearances using the limited assortment
> of shims that I had, and in the end I had to grind many of them on the
> surface grinder using a custom jig to hold them securely on the magnetic
> chuck.

Been there, done that, so what.
>
> Finally, the clearances were set and the camshafts installed for good,
> and it was ready for it's timing belt and to be put back into the car.
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69S4W
>
> So, after all this long winded chest beating, what have we learned?

What have you learnt? Likely nothing at all. But you do a hell of a lot
of chest beating. In fact, that's all you do.
>
> What we've learned is that apart from a little bit of piston to bore
> clearance variation which Les was advised could lead to a bit of ring
> flutter and oil control problem, this engine went together well and had

Piston to bore clearance does not lead to ring flutter. What does cause
ring flutter is excessive ring side clearance or reduced ring radial
pressure. Designers usually aim to put ring flutter up at the top end
above the engine's RPM range. They do this by addressing piston speed,
piston stroke, ring mass and sealing forces. Another case of not
understanding the theory so not being able to diagnose the issue.

> no clearance issues whatsoever. The engine was installed back into the
> car and test fired by me and it fired straight up with excellent oil
> pressure and had no temperature issues.

Temperature issues rarely occur under no load situations.
>
> At this point the car was handed back to Les were it was booked into a
> dyno session. It ran the dyno session successfully where it bed in
> nicely, and as Les was still playing with tune settings a second dyno
> session was booked not long after. Subsequently to this it did a full
> test and tune day at Winton raceway before it was packed onto it's
> trailer and taken to Bathurst for a class race meeting which was the
> ultimate purpose of having done all this work in the first place.
>
> And it was at Bathurst where things turned to shit.

And on/at the end of conrod straight, as could be expected given the
circumstances of operation.
>
> On the seventh Lap of Les's race, as he was coming through the Chase at
> the end of Conrod Straight, the engine had a change of exhaust note and
> blew a heavy plume of white smoke out of the exhaust. It was
> instantaneous, and it was abundantly clear that something in the engine
> had broken, and it's race meeting was over.

Of course it would. It dropped the valve head and put a hole in the
piston FFS. And cracked the bore. White smoke, oil or water, either is
possible. The piston hole - bluish white, the bore damage - pure white.
I'd say water entering the bore through the crack caused the white smoke.
>
> Les returned to Melbourne and brought the car around for me to look at
> where he showed me the video of the failure taking place, and after
> pulling a plug and looking into the cylinder with a Borescope it was
> obvious that the engine had dropped a valve and suffered a terminal
> failure.

A terminal failure caused by a terminal cockhead. Well done you!
>
> I didn't do anything else to it, and Les went home with his tail between
> his legs and pulled the engine apart to see for himself. Once he did, he
> sent me these photos.
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PMI
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME69PMH
>
> What these pictures show is that an exhaust valve on number one cylinder
> has hit a piston, but moreover it did so while the valve was fully open
> at the limit of it's travel. That much is obvious from the fact that the
> valve was snapped off around half way up it's stem, and as the piston

It's where the valve heads *always* snap off. The reason, it is the
*hottest* point of the valve which also happens to be the furthest point
of the valve away from any cooling medium.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Ii1ukGkfijY/SpGsq0DhKDI/AAAAAAAAA1w/mkiXQ24wbpM/clip_image0048_thumb.jpg?imgmax=800

You get the valve hotter than normal, the integrity of the metal in the
800 degree region will reduce increasing the risk of failure. I have
detailed the process elsewhere. It's obvious to anyone who understands
engine theory but that is not you - obviously. I've said it before and
I'll say it again, excessive valve temperatures are the most common
valve killer. It's what caused Les' valve to fail, that much is obvious.

> turned it sideways and tried to bury it into the seat pocket it caused
> the piston to rock in it's bore pushing it hard up against the cylinder
> wall and splitting it open.
>
> Anyone who has even the most "basic" of engine experience will tell you
> that this is most decidedly *not* the result of inadequate piston to
> valve clearance :)

On 12/1/22 7:19 am, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 23:04:01 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>
>> On 11/01/2022 10:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 11/1/22 11:23 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>> On 11/01/2022 8:10 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Nothing that was worthwhile reading.
>>>>
>>>> You just don't get it xeno. Nobody gives a toss about your obsession.
>>>> Build a bridge.
>>>>
>>
>> Snipped more bile.
>
> "bile"? Jaysus Gumps! If that was bile, how would you describe the average
> Fraudster post? (You do read them don't you?)

Of course he doesn't. he knows they are bullshit. No one, not even
Gumps, could be that stupid.
>
>> You DON'T get it do you. NOBODY cares.
>
> I care! Sorry... I CARE!
>
>> Get over your obsession.
>
> Gumpspeak: Something that looks like English but isn't.
>
>
>
> alvey
>
>
>
>
>

--
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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 12/1/22 11:35 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 12/01/2022 10:44 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 at 19:03:19 UTC+11, Xeno wrote:
>
>>> Speaking of legal action, notice how Darren *supposedly* closed his
>>> *business* recently. That was, no doubt, due to the fact that he learnt
>>> here that he had been making *fraudulent claims* of qualifications
>>> pertinent to that business, including membership of the VACC. That
>>> leaves him wide open to legal action. I wonder if the VACC are looking
>>> into his activities? They are interested in getting fakers out of the
>>> trade. And he did make some very fraudulent claims.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>   Made the call yet?  Dobbing would be right up yer (and others)
>> alley.! <G>
>
> ROTFL :)
>
> The VACC has no authority to "look into" anyone They're a private motor
> trade association, not a government department. Once again the ckueless
> fuckwit proves how clueless he actually is :)

Close ties to government Darren, close ties.
>
> Hey Kryppy? Worked out the difference between piston to valve clearance
> issues and the damage resulting from a valve failure yet?
>
>
Knew it way back in my apprentice days Darren, taught it at TAFE for 20
years. Lack of one causes the other, it's a progression thing. It's why
a check is an imperative. I don't expect *you* to have a clue since you
never ever did any trade theory - in any field.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 12/1/22 11:40 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 12/01/2022 11:21 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 at 23:35:04 UTC+11, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> Felix, you're a fucking idiot. If I *wanted* that done I'm more than
>>>> capable of doing it myself.
>>> I doubt that very much. or perhaps you could point me to some websites
>>> you've created, or some domain that you own?
>> ~~~
>>   Hey, it was concerning *his* pics that were *fucked about with* by
>> *you*.
>>      Nothing more, nothing less!. Get off yer high horse petey..
>
> Yep. What he did or *why* he was doing it is completely irrelevant. The
> reality is that it wasn't his place to do so, and in an added irony
> attraction he must feel like an even bigger fuckwit now that he's been
> reminded of this in light of his recent comments about leaving people's
> pictures where they are.
>
>>>> Glad to have jogged your memory, but you need to appreciate that not
>>>> everyone wants you to do them "favours".
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I wasn't doing YOU a favor, I was doing the ppl here a favor, you
>>> fucking moron.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>     Theres nothing more scawwy than pete in full flight. (well,
>> krypsis and a few others as well.) <BG>
>
> Again, irrespective of *why* he was doing it, it was not his place to do
> so.
>
> Simple fact of the matter here Felix is *no one* asked for your help, so
> fuck up and mind your business.
>
>
Les is certainly sorry he asked for your help. Here's hoping he's learnt
his lesson well.

--
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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 11:35:26 +1100, Noddy wrote:

> On 12/01/2022 10:44 am, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 at 19:03:19 UTC+11, Xeno wrote:
>
>>> Speaking of legal action, notice how Darren *supposedly* closed his
>>> *business* recently. That was, no doubt, due to the fact that he learnt
>>> here that he had been making *fraudulent claims* of qualifications
>>> pertinent to that business, including membership of the VACC. That
>>> leaves him wide open to legal action. I wonder if the VACC are looking
>>> into his activities? They are interested in getting fakers out of the
>>> trade. And he did make some very fraudulent claims.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Made the call yet? Dobbing would be right up yer (and others) alley.! <G>
>
> ROTFL :)
>
> The VACC has no authority to "look into" anyone They're a private motor
> trade association, not a government department. Once again the ckueless
> fuckwit proves how clueless he actually is :)
>
> Hey Kryppy? Worked out the difference between piston to valve clearance
> issues and the damage resulting from a valve failure yet?

What a pair of prats.

Prat 1: Outside of NSW it's actually socially desirable to "dob in" people
who claim to be something that they are not.

Prat 2: Anyone can "look into" anything they like. eg. I've looked into
some of your claims and found them to be lies.

alvey

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On 12/01/2022 7:19 am, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 23:04:01 +1000, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>
>> On 11/01/2022 10:28 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 11/1/22 11:23 pm, Grumpy Tech wrote:
>>>> On 11/01/2022 8:10 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Nothing that was worthwhile reading.
>>>>
>>>> You just don't get it xeno. Nobody gives a toss about your obsession.
>>>> Build a bridge.
>>>>
>> Snipped more bile.
> "bile"? Jaysus Gumps! If that was bile, how would you describe the average
> Fraudster post? (You do read them don't you?)

read them? he prints them out and frames them. :)

>
>> You DON'T get it do you. NOBODY cares.
> I care! Sorry... I CARE!
>
>> Get over your obsession.
> Gumpspeak: Something that looks like English but isn't.
>
>
>
> alvey
>
>
>
>
>

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