On 23/11/2021 8:43 am, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 14:33:39 +1000, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> One dollar fucking 93!
>
> That's nothing. In the bad old days the unions (tanker drivers)
> refused to deliver fuel to the bowsers. It got to the stage that
> thieves were drilling into cars' fuel tanks and siphoning out the
> contents. This poster was reduced to running on lighter fluid and
> turps.

What a load of ridiculous bullshit :)

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Regards,
Noddy.

keithr0 wrote:
>
>One dollar fucking 93!

It'd probably make $2.93 under a Labor government (if you believe the
happy clapper)!

Your EV will also become unaffordable to run!

We're obviously fucked whichever way!

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John H

On 23/11/2021 4:29 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 23/11/2021 7:22 am, alvey wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 20:16:55 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>> On 22/11/2021 5:04 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 22/11/2021 3:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> One dollar fucking 93!
>>>>
>>>> **My local has 98RON (dunno what the other shit costs) for $1.86/L.
>>>>
>>>> I love listening to Scummo, promising that Labor will cause petrol
>>>> prices to rise dramatically. In the past year, petrol has gone up 40%.
>>>> Of course, petrol prices are beyond the control of the gummint.
>>>
>>> Scummo is winding up the bullshit with the election approaching.
>>> I'm sure Murdoch will be right along side pushing the lies and the usual
>>> card carrying LNP stooges too stupid to look beyond the headlines will
>>> repeat it here as fact ad nauseam - as per usual.
>>>
>>> I hope the useless happy clapping fuckwit gets his arse handed to him at
>>> the next election.
>>
>> Ditto. For any number of valid reasons. Unfortunately, as you infer, I
>> believe that the only possible way the ALP under Albo can knock off the
>> bellicose bully is if Murdoch backs them. And as the last time Murdoch
>> did
>> this was 50 years ago then the odds aren't good.
>>
>
> **I dunno about that. Whilst Albo is about as popular as a Polly Waffle
> in a pool, Scummo has been revealed to lie about pretty much everything.
> The past few years have revealed that he is well out of his depth in the
> job.
>

Indeed. Grossly incompetent is understating it. But just as we have seen
in here with with Derro's supporters, people will still happily enable
an incompetent compulsive liar.

On 23/11/2021 4:53 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 23/11/2021 7:29 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
>> **I dunno about that. Whilst Albo is about as popular as a Polly
>> Waffle in a pool, Scummo has been revealed to lie about pretty much
>> everything.
>
> ROFTL :) You said that as if you genuinely believe Albanese is the
> slightest bit different :)
>
> For fuck's sake he's a politician. They *all* lie. It's as much a part
> of his job as Gillard proclaiming "There will be no carbon tax under any
> government I lead" was part of hers.
>
>> The past few years have revealed that he is well out of his depth in
>> the job.
>
> Yeah, well, we all know how much of a die hard fanatical Labor supporter
> you are :)
>
> Here's something to ponder Trev. We've just gone through 18 months+ of
> lockdowns which have been devastating in more ways than one. Yet the
> economy is in good shape, unemployment is at record lows, the housing
> market is booming and unlike most other countries we *haven't* had
> thousands of Covid casualties.
>
> If Labor was in office, I'd bet my left nut

You don't have any nuts to bet with, coward.

On 23/11/2021 10:53 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 23/11/2021 9:26 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 23/11/2021 7:53 am, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 23/11/2021 7:29 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> **I dunno about that. Whilst Albo is about as popular as a Polly
>>>> Waffle in a pool, Scummo has been revealed to lie about pretty much
>>>> everything.
>>>
>>> ROFTL :) You said that as if you genuinely believe Albanese is the
>>> slightest bit different :)
>>
>> **I don't know.
>
> Of *course* you don't. That's because you have your head up your Labor
> Party supporting arse :)

**No. Albo has never been PM. No one knew just how bad Scummo would be,
until he started doing the job either. We know just how incompetent he
is now though.

>
>> Albo is not the PM.
>
> He doesn't need to be. He's been Deputy PM, and shown everyone how full
> of shit he can be in that role.

**Again: Albo has never been PM.

>
>> The PM is a proven liar of considerable scale.
>
> *All* politicians are liars Trevor. Being Prime Minister does not
> absolve anyone of that duty.

**Sure, most pollies do lie, but Scummo has taken that to a whole new
level.

>
>> That said, the most serious problem afflicting Scummo is his clear
>> inability to do the job. He is an utter incompetent, totally twisted
>> in his drive to deal with religious bullshit, rather than the
>> important stuff. Like a Federal ICAC, for instance. Instead, Scummo is
>> desperately trying to ensure that religious groups can discriminate
>> against normal people.
>
> Is he? And how is he doing that?

**
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/liberal-mps-express-concern-over-religious-freedom-bill-20211123-p59bcw.html

>
>>> For fuck's sake he's a politician. They *all* lie. It's as much a
>>> part of his job as Gillard proclaiming "There will be no carbon tax
>>> under any government I lead" was part of hers.
>>
>> **Yeah, keep beating that dead horse.
>
> It's not a "dead horse" Trev.

**Yes, it is. YOUR words:

"*All* politicians are liars Trevor." You've established that ALL
politicians lie and that Julia Gillard told ONE. Scummo, OTOH:

https://www.crikey.com.au/dossier-of-lies-and-falsehoods/

And many of those are seriously bad porkies.

It was one of the most blatant lies in
> Australian political history,

**Nope. It was a really dumb thing to say though. Here are some of the
more egregious lies told by YOUR heroes:

John Howard:

https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:%22library/partypol/EZID6%22

Tony Abbott:

https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/abbott-lies-to-the-nation-to-the-end-65-of-the-worst,8164

There's lots more of course.

and it's also one that you're prepared to
> quite happily sweep under the carpet and ignore because you like the
> idiot who gave birth to it.

**Julia Gillard an "idiot"? I've heard her called many things, but never
an idiot.

If you had any scruples at all you should be
> just as critical of that as anything Morrison or anyone else has done,
> but you're clearly not and you don't need to be Einstein to work out why
> that is.

**I'll say it once more: When Julia Gillard said that she would never
introduce a carbon tax, she said a really dumb thing.

>
> Let me give you a free tip: People like you who excuse certain behavior
> on one side of the fence while admonishing those on the other for doing
> *exactly* the same thing don't paint themselves up as being particularly
> well grounded :)
>
>> Gillard was a thousand times more honest and decent and talented,
>> compared to Scummo.
>
> Bwahahahahahahaha :)
>
> You're a card :)

**You've dredged up ONE, stupid, statement made by Julia Gillard. ONE.
Contrast that with your hero, Scummo, who lies as easily as he breathes.

>
>> Gillard got stuff done. All Scummo has manged is to bury 'Sports
>> Rorts', car parks that don't get built, failed to give us a Federal
>> ICAC, despite 3 years of obfuscating, etc, etc. Scummo is an idiot and
>> WAY out of his depth.
>
> Oh yeah. She was *so* successful in her role that she almost sent the
> Labor party to political oblivion,

**Nope. Your revisionist history aside, that was all the work of that
religious loon, Rudd. Rudd, almost single-handedly, destroyed Labor's
chances at successive elections.

and if it hadn't been for Kevin Rudd
> taking back the reigns and making a miraculous recovery the Labor Party
> wouldn't exist today.

**Rudd was the problem, not the solution.

>
> No doubt about it. She was fantastic. A fantastic failure.

**Nonsense:

https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/abbott-lies-to-the-nation-to-the-end-65-of-the-worst,8164

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/history-may-be-kinder-to-julia-gillard-20200622-p554tp

Of course the child abusers will not be happy with Ms Gillard, nor the
Catholics. She made our society a better place. You can't say that about
Abbott or Scummo. Neither leader has done anything much of consequence.
Unless you like the idea of Knights and Dames. Personally, I reckon such
honours are just daft, but I accept that you may dispute that.

>
>>> Yeah, well, we all know how much of a die hard fanatical Labor
>>> supporter you are :)
>>
>> **Here's the thing: I'm not a Labor supporter. I haven't been for
>> decades. Labor are idiots, for dumping Gillard, in the same way that
>> the LIbs are idiots for dumping Hewson and Turnbull.
>
> Bullshit Trev.

**Nope. The Libs WERE idiots for dumping Hewson and Turnbull. You can
embrace Scummo and Abbott all you like. Both are idiots.

You're as mad a Labor stooge as that "Licensed" fuckwit
> from WA who thinks the plastic in laminated glass goes on the outside :)
>
>>> Here's something to ponder Trev. We've just gone through 18 months+
>>> of lockdowns which have been devastating in more ways than one. Yet
>>> the economy is in good shape, unemployment is at record lows, the
>>> housing market is booming and unlike most other countries we
>>> *haven't* had thousands of Covid casualties.
>>
>> **Why do you think that an economy that is built on booming house
>> prices is a good thing?
>
> Two things here Trev. Firstly, I never said the economy was built on
> booming house prices,

**You equated a booming economy with a booming housing market. You're an
idiot for making such a claim. A booming housing market indicates
serious problems. VERY serious problems.

and you need to brush up on your language skills
> as you clearly have some difficultly with basic comment. Secondly,
> You've got things arse about. The strength of the economy drives
> property values. Not the other way around.

**Wrong. The housing market is driven by several factors, including:

* Housing stock.
* Population growth.
* Interest rates.
* Government interference.
* FOMO.

NOTHING to do with the strength of the economy. Presently we have:

* Insufficient housing stock. (sends prices up)
* Low population growth. (sends prices down)
* Low interest rates. (sends prices up)
* Massive government interference. (sends prices up)
* Massive FOMO. (Sends prices up)

Scummo has deliberately interfered with the market and caused prices to
rise. Housing stock, interest rates and FOMO are outside the ability of
government to control, yet Scummo made the wrong decision anyway. He is
an economic idiot. Yet you still support him.

>
>> Take your time in answering and explain why, using your vast economic
>> knowledge. You will be shot down in flames.
>
> ROTFL :) Trevor, you've already demonstrated that your understanding of
> economic matters is about as balanced as your view of political leaders :)

**Unlike you, I have actually studied economics. Labor and the COALition
have made economic blunders over the years. Scummo is just the present
leader making the blunders. Like him or not, Shorten presented some
really good economic policy at the last election. Of course, economic
morons, like you, fail to appreciate those good policies.

>
>> As for COVID deaths, that is down to the states. NOTHING to do with
>> the Feds.
>
> To a degree, but not entirely.

**Let call it:

States - 90%
Feds - 10%

The feds are the ones who control the
> borders and who administer the vaccines. It's a joint effort, and any
> one would fail without help from the other

On 23/11/2021 11:32 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 23/11/2021 10:53 am, Noddy wrote:
>> On 23/11/2021 9:26 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 23/11/2021 7:53 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 23/11/2021 7:29 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> **I dunno about that. Whilst Albo is about as popular as a Polly
>>>>> Waffle in a pool, Scummo has been revealed to lie about pretty much
>>>>> everything.
>>>>
>>>> ROFTL :) You said that as if you genuinely believe Albanese is the
>>>> slightest bit different :)
>>>
>>> **I don't know.
>>
>> Of *course* you don't. That's because you have your head up your Labor
>> Party supporting arse :)
>
> **No. Albo has never been PM. No one knew just how bad Scummo would be,
> until he started doing the job either. We know just how incompetent he
> is now though.
>
>>
>>> Albo is not the PM.
>>
>> He doesn't need to be. He's been Deputy PM, and shown everyone how
>> full of shit he can be in that role.
>
> **Again: Albo has never been PM.
>
>>
>>> The PM is a proven liar of considerable scale.
>>
>> *All* politicians are liars Trevor. Being Prime Minister does not
>> absolve anyone of that duty.
>
> **Sure, most pollies do lie, but Scummo has taken that to a whole new
> level.
>
>>
>>> That said, the most serious problem afflicting Scummo is his clear
>>> inability to do the job. He is an utter incompetent, totally twisted
>>> in his drive to deal with religious bullshit, rather than the
>>> important stuff. Like a Federal ICAC, for instance. Instead, Scummo
>>> is desperately trying to ensure that religious groups can
>>> discriminate against normal people.
>>
>> Is he? And how is he doing that?
>
> **
> https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/liberal-mps-express-concern-over-religious-freedom-bill-20211123-p59bcw.html
>
>
>>
>>>> For fuck's sake he's a politician. They *all* lie. It's as much a
>>>> part of his job as Gillard proclaiming "There will be no carbon tax
>>>> under any government I lead" was part of hers.
>>>
>>> **Yeah, keep beating that dead horse.
>>
>> It's not a "dead horse" Trev.
>
> **Yes, it is. YOUR words:
>
> "*All* politicians are liars Trevor." You've established that ALL
> politicians lie and that Julia Gillard told ONE. Scummo, OTOH:
>
> https://www.crikey.com.au/dossier-of-lies-and-falsehoods/
>
> And many of those are seriously bad porkies.
>
>  It was one of the most blatant lies in
>> Australian political history,
>
> **Nope. It was a really dumb thing to say though. Here are some of the
> more egregious lies told by YOUR heroes:
>
> John Howard:
>
> https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:%22library/partypol/EZID6%22
>
>
> Tony Abbott:
>
> https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/abbott-lies-to-the-nation-to-the-end-65-of-the-worst,8164
>
>
> There's lots more of course.
>
>
>  and it's also one that you're prepared to
>> quite happily sweep under the carpet and ignore because you like the
>> idiot who gave birth to it.
>
> **Julia Gillard an "idiot"? I've heard her called many things, but never
> an idiot.
>
>
>  If you had any scruples at all you should be
>> just as critical of that as anything Morrison or anyone else has done,
>> but you're clearly not and you don't need to be Einstein to work out
>> why that is.
>
> **I'll say it once more: When Julia Gillard said that she would never
> introduce a carbon tax, she said a really dumb thing.
>
>>
>> Let me give you a free tip: People like you who excuse certain
>> behavior on one side of the fence while admonishing those on the other
>> for doing *exactly* the same thing don't paint themselves up as being
>> particularly well grounded :)
>>
>>> Gillard was a thousand times more honest and decent and talented,
>>> compared to Scummo.
>>
>> Bwahahahahahahaha :)
>>
>> You're a card :)
>
> **You've dredged up ONE, stupid, statement made by Julia Gillard. ONE.
> Contrast that with your hero, Scummo, who lies as easily as he breathes.
>

You're wasting your time. NoddyLiar was a card carrying Abbott
supporter, especially all the misogynistic BS he spouted and the Murdoch
lies and character assassinations he repeated in support... until it was
clear to everyone Abbott was a grossly incompetent raving far right loon
as PM - then he changed his tune.

NoddyLiar is even less trustworthy then Scummo, like all card carrying
LNP supporters. It's a prerequisite.

On 23/11/21 2:32 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 23/11/2021 10:53 am, Noddy wrote:
>> On 23/11/2021 9:26 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 23/11/2021 7:53 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 23/11/2021 7:29 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> **I dunno about that. Whilst Albo is about as popular as a Polly
>>>>> Waffle in a pool, Scummo has been revealed to lie about pretty much
>>>>> everything.
>>>>
>>>> ROFTL :) You said that as if you genuinely believe Albanese is the
>>>> slightest bit different :)
>>>
>>> **I don't know.
>>
>> Of *course* you don't. That's because you have your head up your Labor
>> Party supporting arse :)
>
> **No. Albo has never been PM. No one knew just how bad Scummo would be,
> until he started doing the job either. We know just how incompetent he
> is now though.
>
>>
>>> Albo is not the PM.
>>
>> He doesn't need to be. He's been Deputy PM, and shown everyone how
>> full of shit he can be in that role.
>
> **Again: Albo has never been PM.
>
>>
>>> The PM is a proven liar of considerable scale.
>>
>> *All* politicians are liars Trevor. Being Prime Minister does not
>> absolve anyone of that duty.
>
> **Sure, most pollies do lie, but Scummo has taken that to a whole new
> level.
>
>>
>>> That said, the most serious problem afflicting Scummo is his clear
>>> inability to do the job. He is an utter incompetent, totally twisted
>>> in his drive to deal with religious bullshit, rather than the
>>> important stuff. Like a Federal ICAC, for instance. Instead, Scummo
>>> is desperately trying to ensure that religious groups can
>>> discriminate against normal people.
>>
>> Is he? And how is he doing that?
>
> **
> https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/liberal-mps-express-concern-over-religious-freedom-bill-20211123-p59bcw.html
>
>
>>
>>>> For fuck's sake he's a politician. They *all* lie. It's as much a
>>>> part of his job as Gillard proclaiming "There will be no carbon tax
>>>> under any government I lead" was part of hers.
>>>
>>> **Yeah, keep beating that dead horse.
>>
>> It's not a "dead horse" Trev.
>
> **Yes, it is. YOUR words:
>
> "*All* politicians are liars Trevor." You've established that ALL
> politicians lie and that Julia Gillard told ONE. Scummo, OTOH:
>
> https://www.crikey.com.au/dossier-of-lies-and-falsehoods/
>
> And many of those are seriously bad porkies.
>
>  It was one of the most blatant lies in
>> Australian political history,
>
> **Nope. It was a really dumb thing to say though. Here are some of the
> more egregious lies told by YOUR heroes:
>
> John Howard:
>
> https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:%22library/partypol/EZID6%22
>
>
> Tony Abbott:
>
> https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/abbott-lies-to-the-nation-to-the-end-65-of-the-worst,8164
>
>
> There's lots more of course.
>
>
>  and it's also one that you're prepared to
>> quite happily sweep under the carpet and ignore because you like the
>> idiot who gave birth to it.
>
> **Julia Gillard an "idiot"? I've heard her called many things, but never
> an idiot.
>
>
>  If you had any scruples at all you should be
>> just as critical of that as anything Morrison or anyone else has done,
>> but you're clearly not and you don't need to be Einstein to work out
>> why that is.
>
> **I'll say it once more: When Julia Gillard said that she would never
> introduce a carbon tax, she said a really dumb thing.
>
>>
>> Let me give you a free tip: People like you who excuse certain
>> behavior on one side of the fence while admonishing those on the other
>> for doing *exactly* the same thing don't paint themselves up as being
>> particularly well grounded :)
>>
>>> Gillard was a thousand times more honest and decent and talented,
>>> compared to Scummo.
>>
>> Bwahahahahahahaha :)
>>
>> You're a card :)
>
> **You've dredged up ONE, stupid, statement made by Julia Gillard. ONE.
> Contrast that with your hero, Scummo, who lies as easily as he breathes.
>
>>
>>> Gillard got stuff done. All Scummo has manged is to bury 'Sports
>>> Rorts', car parks that don't get built, failed to give us a Federal
>>> ICAC, despite 3 years of obfuscating, etc, etc. Scummo is an idiot
>>> and WAY out of his depth.
>>
>> Oh yeah. She was *so* successful in her role that she almost sent the
>> Labor party to political oblivion,
>
> **Nope. Your revisionist history aside, that was all the work of that
> religious loon, Rudd. Rudd, almost single-handedly, destroyed Labor's
> chances at successive elections.
>
>
>  and if it hadn't been for Kevin Rudd
>> taking back the reigns and making a miraculous recovery the Labor
>> Party wouldn't exist today.
>
> **Rudd was the problem, not the solution.
>
>>
>> No doubt about it. She was fantastic. A fantastic failure.
>
> **Nonsense:
>
> https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/abbott-lies-to-the-nation-to-the-end-65-of-the-worst,8164
>
>
> https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/history-may-be-kinder-to-julia-gillard-20200622-p554tp
>
>
> Of course the child abusers will not be happy with Ms Gillard, nor the
> Catholics. She made our society a better place. You can't say that about
> Abbott or Scummo. Neither leader has done anything much of consequence.
> Unless you like the idea of Knights and Dames. Personally, I reckon such
> honours are just daft, but I accept that you may dispute that.
>
>>
>>>> Yeah, well, we all know how much of a die hard fanatical Labor
>>>> supporter you are :)
>>>
>>> **Here's the thing: I'm not a Labor supporter. I haven't been for
>>> decades. Labor are idiots, for dumping Gillard, in the same way that
>>> the LIbs are idiots for dumping Hewson and Turnbull.
>>
>> Bullshit Trev.
>
> **Nope. The Libs WERE idiots for dumping Hewson and Turnbull. You can
> embrace Scummo and Abbott all you like. Both are idiots.
>
>  You're as mad a Labor stooge as that "Licensed" fuckwit
>> from WA who thinks the plastic in laminated glass goes on the outside :)
>>
>>>> Here's something to ponder Trev. We've just gone through 18 months+
>>>> of lockdowns which have been devastating in more ways than one. Yet
>>>> the economy is in good shape, unemployment is at record lows, the
>>>> housing market is booming and unlike most other countries we
>>>> *haven't* had thousands of Covid casualties.
>>>
>>> **Why do you think that an economy that is built on booming house
>>> prices is a good thing?
>>
>> Two things here Trev. Firstly, I never said the economy was built on
>> booming house prices,
>
> **You equated a booming economy with a booming housing market. You're an
> idiot for making such a claim. A booming housing market indicates
> serious problems. VERY serious problems.
>
>
>  and you need to brush up on your language skills
>> as you clearly have some difficultly with basic comment. Secondly,
>> You've got things arse about. The strength of the economy drives
>> property values. Not the other way around.
>
> **Wrong. The housing market is driven by several factors, including:
>
> * Housing stock.
> * Population growth.
> * Interest rates.
> * Government interference.
> * FOMO.
>
> NOTHING to do with the strength of the economy. Presently we have:
>
> * Insufficient housing stock. (sends prices up)
> * Low population growth. (sends prices down)
> * Low interest rates. (sends prices up)
> * Massive government interference. (sends prices up)
> * Massive FOMO. (Sends prices up)
>
> Scummo has deliberately interfered with the market and caused prices to
> rise. Housing stock, interest rates and FOMO are outside the ability of
> government to control, yet Scummo made the wrong decision anyway. He is
> an economic idiot. Yet you still support him.
>
>>
>>> Take your time in answering and explain why, using your vast economic
>>> knowledge. You will be shot down in flames.
>>
>> ROTFL :) Trevor, you've already demonstrated that your understanding
>> of economic matters is about as balanced as your view of political
>> leaders :)
>
> **Unlike you, I have actually studied economics. Labor and the COALition
> have made economic blunders over the years. Scummo is just the present
> leader making the blunders. Like him or not, Shorten presented some
> really good economic policy at the last election. Of course, economic
> morons, like you, fail to appreciate those good policies.
>
>>
>>> As for COVID deaths, that is down to the states. NOTHING to do with
>>> the Feds.
>>
>> To a degree, but not entirely.
>
> **Let call it:
>
> States - 90%
> Feds - 10%
>
>  The feds are the ones who control the
>> borders and who administer the vaccines. It's a joint effort, and any
>> one would fail without help from the other
>
> **Like the numpties who allowed the Ruby Princess to land without going
> through quarantine.
>
>>
>>> Scummo has been bleating about opening up since day one. The states
>>> refused.
>>
>> More bullshit from you :)
>
> **Nup. Scummo has been hammering the opening up since day one. The
> states refused to comply.
>
>>
>>>> If Labor was in office, I'd bet my left nut that you would happily
>>>> put all that down to their fantastic management :)
>>>
>>> **Nope. The states are the ones to tank for the great COVID-19
>>> response. Both Labor AND Liberal states. They've all done a great
>>> job. That and, of course, the relative isolation inherent to our
>>> nation. NSW had a better response to COVID than Victoria, due our
>>> superior tack and trace system.
>>
>> No they didn't :)
>>
>> NSW had a *far* more lax system than Victoria ever did, and the
>> current Delta outbreak that's been going on down here in Vic for the
>> last few months is 100% a result of NSW's totally inadequate control
>> measures. For fuck's sake NSW didn't even mandate masks in public.
>
> **Oh, I agree that the idiots in NSW allowed Delta in.
>
>>
>> The "Gold Standard" NSW contact tracing system that Morrison publicly
>> bleated about turned out to be "K-mart" standard and failed miserably
>> once the pressure was on :)
>
> **NSW track and trace worked well until Delta.
>
>>
>>> That was down to our LIBERAL government.
>>
>> Yes it was. The total fuckup that led to both NSW and Victoria being
>> swamped with the Delta variant was entirely due to the inadequacies of
>> Gladys and her incompetent crew.
>
> **Her crew was not incompetent, but she and her government made some big
> mistakes.
>
>>
>>> The NSW state Labor party has been fucked for years. And, like many
>>> pollies, I didn't like some of the stuff Gladys did, but I would
>>> never dispute that she worked very hard for NSW. She made one, VERY
>>> BIG, mistake.
>>
>> She made lots, and not the least of which was being completely corrupt.
>
> **Pretty much standard for NSW pollies. They're all crooks.
>
>>
>> Innocent people don't resign ahead of an inquiry :)
>
> **Oh, she is guilty. No doubt about. However, I was discussing her work
> ethic.
>
>>
>>> Scummo is a completely different animal. Scummo cares about one thing
>>> and one thing only: Scummo. Nothing else matters to that fucking idiot.
>>
>> Take out "Summo" and insert whatever name you like and you've just
>> described every other politician in the country, if not the world. If
>> you genuinely think that any of them are in it for *anything* other
>> than themselves then you are naive beyond belief.
>
> **Oh, there have been exceptions. Few and far between though. Gillard
> was one.

On 23/11/2021 10:19 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 23/11/2021 8:43 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 14:33:39 +1000, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> One dollar fucking 93!
>>
>> That's nothing.  In the bad old days the unions (tanker drivers)
>> refused to deliver fuel to the bowsers.  It got to the stage that
>> thieves were drilling into cars' fuel tanks and siphoning out the
>> contents.  This poster was reduced to running on lighter fluid and
>> turps.
>
> What a load of ridiculous bullshit :)
>
>
>

Your claims of qualifications are the definition of ridiculous bullshit.

On 23/11/2021 2:32 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 23/11/2021 10:53 am, Noddy wrote:

>>
>> Of *course* you don't. That's because you have your head up your Labor
>> Party supporting arse :)
>
> **No. Albo has never been PM.

He's been Deputy Prime Minister, Trevor. There is no surprise left in
him. He's an empty shirt, and as bad as you think Morrison is Albanese
has absolutely zero chance of defeating him at the polls.

> No one knew just how bad Scummo would be,
> until he started doing the job either. We know just how incompetent he
> is now though.

Yawn.

>>> Albo is not the PM.
>>
>> He doesn't need to be. He's been Deputy PM, and shown everyone how
>> full of shit he can be in that role.
>
> **Again: Albo has never been PM.

So, by your logic, someone can have a lengthy career in Federal Politics
up to and including occupying the role of Deputy PM, but that gives you
no idea what they'd be like as Prime Minister.

Riiiiight.

>>> The PM is a proven liar of considerable scale.
>>
>> *All* politicians are liars Trevor. Being Prime Minister does not
>> absolve anyone of that duty.
>
> **Sure, most pollies do lie, but Scummo has taken that to a whole new
> level.

Has he really? Worse than "no carbon tax under any government I lead",
"By 1990no Australian child will live in poverty" or "This is the
recession we had to have"?

Has he been *that* bad? I must have blinked and missed it.

>>> That said, the most serious problem afflicting Scummo is his clear
>>> inability to do the job. He is an utter incompetent, totally twisted
>>> in his drive to deal with religious bullshit, rather than the
>>> important stuff. Like a Federal ICAC, for instance. Instead, Scummo
>>> is desperately trying to ensure that religious groups can
>>> discriminate against normal people.
>>
>> Is he? And how is he doing that?
>
> **
> https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/liberal-mps-express-concern-over-religious-freedom-bill-20211123-p59bcw.html

And what's the worry there, Trevor?

Not that I have a religious bone in my body, but what's the problem with
a Catholic school advertising a position and giving preference to a
Catholic applicant?

>>>> For fuck's sake he's a politician. They *all* lie. It's as much a
>>>> part of his job as Gillard proclaiming "There will be no carbon tax
>>>> under any government I lead" was part of hers.
>>>
>>> **Yeah, keep beating that dead horse.
>>
>> It's not a "dead horse" Trev.
>
> **Yes, it is. YOUR words:
>
> "*All* politicians are liars Trevor." You've established that ALL
> politicians lie and that Julia Gillard told ONE. Scummo, OTOH:
>
> https://www.crikey.com.au/dossier-of-lies-and-falsehoods/
>
> And many of those are seriously bad porkies.

Trevor, you can't have your cake and eat it too pal. They're either
liars or they're not. You can't pick and choose based on who tells the
*worst* lies :)

>  It was one of the most blatant lies in
>> Australian political history,
>
> **Nope. It was a really dumb thing to say though. Here are some of the
> more egregious lies told by YOUR heroes:
>
> John Howard:
>
> https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id:%22library/partypol/EZID6%22
>
>
> Tony Abbott:
>
> https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/abbott-lies-to-the-nation-to-the-end-65-of-the-worst,8164
>
>
> There's lots more of course.

I'm sure there is, and just for the record here Trevor Tony Abbott is
*not* my "hero" and I have never been a supporter of his *ever*. I have
hated the man with a passion ever since the days he was Health Minister
in the Howard Government and tried to ban access to the abortion drug RU486.

This claim of yours that I am a supporter of his is something you have
invented, and it is an utter nonsense and a complete falsehood.

>  and it's also one that you're prepared to
>> quite happily sweep under the carpet and ignore because you like the
>> idiot who gave birth to it.
>
> **Julia Gillard an "idiot"? I've heard her called many things, but never
> an idiot.

You ever met her Trevor? I have. A few times. She used to live a couple
of hundred metres from me and we would see each other on occasion.

She is a moron.

>  If you had any scruples at all you should be
>> just as critical of that as anything Morrison or anyone else has done,
>> but you're clearly not and you don't need to be Einstein to work out
>> why that is.
>
> **I'll say it once more: When Julia Gillard said that she would never
> introduce a carbon tax, she said a really dumb thing.

It wasn't just a "dumb thing", and it was more than just a lie. What she
did was showed the entire country that it came to politics, the most
important thing to her was doing whatever the fuck she could to get
herself into the top job which is why she prostituted herself and went
back on every election promise she made to secure cross bench support
and eventually claim victory in the election.

That's a bit more than just "being dumb". That's treating everyone who
voted for her like a fucking mug.

>> Let me give you a free tip: People like you who excuse certain
>> behavior on one side of the fence while admonishing those on the other
>> for doing *exactly* the same thing don't paint themselves up as being
>> particularly well grounded :)
>>
>>> Gillard was a thousand times more honest and decent and talented,
>>> compared to Scummo.
>>
>> Bwahahahahahahaha :)
>>
>> You're a card :)
>
> **You've dredged up ONE, stupid, statement made by Julia Gillard. ONE.
> Contrast that with your hero, Scummo, who lies as easily as he breathes.

I don't know where you get these stupid ideas about these cunts of
people being my "heroes". I don't have any political heroes, and you
making such claims only serves to make you look like a compete lunatic.

>>> Gillard got stuff done. All Scummo has manged is to bury 'Sports
>>> Rorts', car parks that don't get built, failed to give us a Federal
>>> ICAC, despite 3 years of obfuscating, etc, etc. Scummo is an idiot
>>> and WAY out of his depth.
>>
>> Oh yeah. She was *so* successful in her role that she almost sent the
>> Labor party to political oblivion,
>
> **Nope. Your revisionist history aside, that was all the work of that
> religious loon, Rudd. Rudd, almost single-handedly, destroyed Labor's
> chances at successive elections.

Trevor, you are completely off your nut and have zero grasp on reality.
I can tell you as sure as I'm sitting here that had Rudd *not* ousted
Gillard and come back as Prime Minister and the Labor Party goner into
the 2013 federal election with Gillard at the helm they would have been
absolutely *decimated* at the polls to the point of them ceasing to
exist as a political party.

Quite simnply, Rudd pulled off a herculean effort in turning Labor's
fortunes around and saved the party from extinction.

>  and if it hadn't been for Kevin Rudd
>> taking back the reigns and making a miraculous recovery the Labor
>> Party wouldn't exist today.
>
> **Rudd was the problem, not the solution.
>
>>
>> No doubt about it. She was fantastic. A fantastic failure.
>
> **Nonsense:
>
> https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/abbott-lies-to-the-nation-to-the-end-65-of-the-worst,8164
>
>
> https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/history-may-be-kinder-to-julia-gillard-20200622-p554tp

Two things there Trevor. In the first place, someone giving an opinion
piece on how they think Gillard *may* be remembered means jack shit, and
the story on Abbott has nothing whatsoever to do with what was being
discussed.

> Of course the child abusers will not be happy with Ms Gillard, nor the
> Catholics. She made our society a better place. You can't say that about
> Abbott or Scummo. Neither leader has done anything much of consequence.
> Unless you like the idea of Knights and Dames. Personally, I reckon such
> honours are just daft, but I accept that you may dispute that.

No, I don't dispute that. I reckon such honours are ridiculous.

>>> **Here's the thing: I'm not a Labor supporter. I haven't been for
>>> decades. Labor are idiots, for dumping Gillard, in the same way that
>>> the LIbs are idiots for dumping Hewson and Turnbull.
>>
>> Bullshit Trev.
>
> **Nope. The Libs WERE idiots for dumping Hewson and Turnbull. You can
> embrace Scummo and Abbott all you like. Both are idiots.

On 23/11/21 9:43 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 23/11/2021 8:54 am, Daryl wrote:
>> On 23/11/21 7:53 am, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 23/11/2021 7:29 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> **I dunno about that. Whilst Albo is about as popular as a Polly
>>>> Waffle in a pool, Scummo has been revealed to lie about pretty much
>>>> everything.
>>>
>>> ROFTL :) You said that as if you genuinely believe Albanese is the
>>> slightest bit different :)
>>>
>>> For fuck's sake he's a politician. They *all* lie. It's as much a
>>> part of his job as Gillard proclaiming "There will be no carbon tax
>>> under any government I lead" was part of hers.
>>
>> "Its easy to tell when a politician is lying, its when their lips are
>> moving"
>> The older I get the more cynical I get about all politicians, they are
>> all tarred with the same brush.
>
> **Some are, some aren't. Like Lambie, for instance. I have a sense that
> she is honest in her approach. I don't agree with everything she says,
> but I believe she speaks from the heart. Unlike that fucking idiot,
> Scummo. He lies almost as much as Trump. He is well out of his depth in
> the job.
>
>> I don't disagree with why the protesters in Melbourne are protesting
>> and I don't think that its because they are anti vax, its because
>> Andrews is a disgusting arsehole but I do disagree with their methods.
>
> **They may not like Andrews. That's fine, but to make death threats is
> completely unacceptable. Thing is that Scummo failed in his response to
> these idiots.
>
>
>> I also don't think that they are angry with Andrews just because of
>> the way he's handled Covid etc, he's fucking up the entire state with
>> everything he touches, he's created thousands of jobs for his union
>> mates with so much road works its near impossible to go anywhere.
>
> **I see. It is your contention that roads should not be maintained then?
> How odd.

Its not maintenance, its widening adding extra lanes which takes years
and years to complete, for example there has been roadworks on the
Monash Fwy with reduced speed limits for so long I can't remember when
they started.
It would be at least 10yrs since anyone could drive on that road without
having to slow for some unnecessary road works which only happen to keep
the premiers union mates in work.
>
>> I was talking to truckie on Sat night and he has to start work at
>> 3.00am everyday just to get anything done, trips that used to take
>> 2hrs now take 4hrs so its no wonder people are pissed off at Andrews.
>
> **None of us like to be inconvenienced by road works. We don't blame the
> government though. Maintenance is just something that has to be done.
> Like it or not.
>
OK if it was maintenance but it isn't.

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On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 11:29:44 +0800, Clocky wrote:

> On 23/11/2021 4:29 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 23/11/2021 7:22 am, alvey wrote:
>>> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 20:16:55 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 22/11/2021 5:04 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 22/11/2021 3:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> One dollar fucking 93!
>>>>>
>>>>> **My local has 98RON (dunno what the other shit costs) for $1.86/L.
>>>>>
>>>>> I love listening to Scummo, promising that Labor will cause petrol
>>>>> prices to rise dramatically. In the past year, petrol has gone up 40%.
>>>>> Of course, petrol prices are beyond the control of the gummint.
>>>>
>>>> Scummo is winding up the bullshit with the election approaching.
>>>> I'm sure Murdoch will be right along side pushing the lies and the usual
>>>> card carrying LNP stooges too stupid to look beyond the headlines will
>>>> repeat it here as fact ad nauseam - as per usual.
>>>>
>>>> I hope the useless happy clapping fuckwit gets his arse handed to him at
>>>> the next election.
>>>
>>> Ditto. For any number of valid reasons. Unfortunately, as you infer, I
>>> believe that the only possible way the ALP under Albo can knock off the
>>> bellicose bully is if Murdoch backs them. And as the last time Murdoch
>>> did
>>> this was 50 years ago then the odds aren't good.
>>>
>>
>> **I dunno about that. Whilst Albo is about as popular as a Polly Waffle
>> in a pool, Scummo has been revealed to lie about pretty much everything.
>> The past few years have revealed that he is well out of his depth in the
>> job.
>>
>
> Indeed. Grossly incompetent is understating it. But just as we have seen
> in here with with Derro's supporters, people will still happily enable
> an incompetent compulsive liar.

Depressing innit?

One wonders what %age of our adult population would be eligible if, like
gender and wealth in the past, there was a minimum level of intelligence
required to be able to vote?

alvey
"First, we can rule out everyone who subscribes to the Herald-Sun..."

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On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 18:56:01 +1100, Daryl wrote:

> On 23/11/21 9:43 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 23/11/2021 8:54 am, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 23/11/21 7:53 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 23/11/2021 7:29 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> **I dunno about that. Whilst Albo is about as popular as a Polly
>>>>> Waffle in a pool, Scummo has been revealed to lie about pretty much
>>>>> everything.
>>>>
>>>> ROFTL :) You said that as if you genuinely believe Albanese is the
>>>> slightest bit different :)
>>>>
>>>> For fuck's sake he's a politician. They *all* lie. It's as much a
>>>> part of his job as Gillard proclaiming "There will be no carbon tax
>>>> under any government I lead" was part of hers.
>>>
>>> "Its easy to tell when a politician is lying, its when their lips are
>>> moving"
>>> The older I get the more cynical I get about all politicians, they are
>>> all tarred with the same brush.
>>
>> **Some are, some aren't. Like Lambie, for instance. I have a sense that
>> she is honest in her approach. I don't agree with everything she says,
>> but I believe she speaks from the heart. Unlike that fucking idiot,
>> Scummo. He lies almost as much as Trump. He is well out of his depth in
>> the job.
>>
>>> I don't disagree with why the protesters in Melbourne are protesting
>>> and I don't think that its because they are anti vax, its because
>>> Andrews is a disgusting arsehole but I do disagree with their methods.
>>
>> **They may not like Andrews. That's fine, but to make death threats is
>> completely unacceptable. Thing is that Scummo failed in his response to
>> these idiots.
>>
>>> I also don't think that they are angry with Andrews just because of
>>> the way he's handled Covid etc, he's fucking up the entire state with
>>> everything he touches, he's created thousands of jobs for his union
>>> mates with so much road works its near impossible to go anywhere.
>>
>> **I see. It is your contention that roads should not be maintained then?
>> How odd.
>
> Its not maintenance, its widening adding extra lanes which takes years
> and years to complete, for example there has been roadworks on the
> Monash Fwy with reduced speed limits for so long I can't remember when
> they started.
> It would be at least 10yrs since anyone could drive on that road without
> having to slow for some unnecessary road works which only happen to keep
> the premiers union mates in work.
>>
>>> I was talking to truckie on Sat night and he has to start work at
>>> 3.00am everyday just to get anything done, trips that used to take
>>> 2hrs now take 4hrs so its no wonder people are pissed off at Andrews.
>>
>> **None of us like to be inconvenienced by road works. We don't blame the
>> government though. Maintenance is just something that has to be done.
>> Like it or not.
>>
> OK if it was maintenance but it isn't.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

You are literally just making it worse for yourself Deryl. So you don't
mind road maintenace being done, it's improvements that are a waste of
money. Got it.

alvey
Is there a 'reverse Mensa' organisation Deryl can join? [No obvious gags
about the Lib & Nat parties please]

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On 23/11/2021 5:56 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 23/11/21 9:43 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 23/11/2021 8:54 am, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 23/11/21 7:53 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 23/11/2021 7:29 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> **I dunno about that. Whilst Albo is about as popular as a Polly
>>>>> Waffle in a pool, Scummo has been revealed to lie about pretty much
>>>>> everything.
>>>>
>>>> ROFTL :) You said that as if you genuinely believe Albanese is the
>>>> slightest bit different :)
>>>>
>>>> For fuck's sake he's a politician. They *all* lie. It's as much a
>>>> part of his job as Gillard proclaiming "There will be no carbon tax
>>>> under any government I lead" was part of hers.
>>>
>>> "Its easy to tell when a politician is lying, its when their lips are
>>> moving"
>>> The older I get the more cynical I get about all politicians, they
>>> are all tarred with the same brush.
>>
>> **Some are, some aren't. Like Lambie, for instance. I have a sense
>> that she is honest in her approach. I don't agree with everything she
>> says, but I believe she speaks from the heart. Unlike that fucking
>> idiot, Scummo. He lies almost as much as Trump. He is well out of his
>> depth in the job.
>>
>>> I don't disagree with why the protesters in Melbourne are protesting
>>> and I don't think that its because they are anti vax, its because
>>> Andrews is a disgusting arsehole but I do disagree with their methods.
>>
>> **They may not like Andrews. That's fine, but to make death threats is
>> completely unacceptable. Thing is that Scummo failed in his response
>> to these idiots.
>>
>>
>>> I also don't think that they are angry with Andrews just because of
>>> the way he's handled Covid etc, he's fucking up the entire state with
>>> everything he touches, he's created thousands of jobs for his union
>>> mates with so much road works its near impossible to go anywhere.
>>
>> **I see. It is your contention that roads should not be maintained
>> then? How odd.
>
> Its not maintenance, its widening adding extra lanes which takes years
> and years to complete, for example there has been roadworks on the
> Monash Fwy with reduced speed limits for so long I can't remember when
> they started.
> It would be at least 10yrs since anyone could drive on that road without
> having to slow for some unnecessary road works which only happen to keep
> the premiers union mates in work.
>>
>>> I was talking to truckie on Sat night and he has to start work at
>>> 3.00am everyday just to get anything done, trips that used to take
>>> 2hrs now take 4hrs so its no wonder people are pissed off at Andrews.
>>
>> **None of us like to be inconvenienced by road works. We don't blame
>> the government though. Maintenance is just something that has to be
>> done. Like it or not.
>>
> OK if it was maintenance but it isn't.
>
The Bruce Highway is and always has been a work in progress. They spent
millions and several years on the Caloundra Road intersection, and I'm
not sure what has actually been achieved other than having to go through
2 sets of traffic lights instead of one.

They are now adding extra lanes from Bribie Island Road to Steve Irwin
Way, It's going to take at least 2 years of 80Km speed limits and will
move the traffic jam about 10Km north.

They are doing something at Deception Bay Road, not sure what they are
trying to achieve but it has been disrupting traffic for a year so far.

On 23/11/21 6:56 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 23/11/21 9:43 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 23/11/2021 8:54 am, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 23/11/21 7:53 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 23/11/2021 7:29 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> **I dunno about that. Whilst Albo is about as popular as a Polly
>>>>> Waffle in a pool, Scummo has been revealed to lie about pretty much
>>>>> everything.
>>>>
>>>> ROFTL :) You said that as if you genuinely believe Albanese is the
>>>> slightest bit different :)
>>>>
>>>> For fuck's sake he's a politician. They *all* lie. It's as much a
>>>> part of his job as Gillard proclaiming "There will be no carbon tax
>>>> under any government I lead" was part of hers.
>>>
>>> "Its easy to tell when a politician is lying, its when their lips are
>>> moving"
>>> The older I get the more cynical I get about all politicians, they
>>> are all tarred with the same brush.
>>
>> **Some are, some aren't. Like Lambie, for instance. I have a sense
>> that she is honest in her approach. I don't agree with everything she
>> says, but I believe she speaks from the heart. Unlike that fucking
>> idiot, Scummo. He lies almost as much as Trump. He is well out of his
>> depth in the job.
>>
>>> I don't disagree with why the protesters in Melbourne are protesting
>>> and I don't think that its because they are anti vax, its because
>>> Andrews is a disgusting arsehole but I do disagree with their methods.
>>
>> **They may not like Andrews. That's fine, but to make death threats is
>> completely unacceptable. Thing is that Scummo failed in his response
>> to these idiots.
>>
>>
>>> I also don't think that they are angry with Andrews just because of
>>> the way he's handled Covid etc, he's fucking up the entire state with
>>> everything he touches, he's created thousands of jobs for his union
>>> mates with so much road works its near impossible to go anywhere.
>>
>> **I see. It is your contention that roads should not be maintained
>> then? How odd.
>
> Its not maintenance, its widening adding extra lanes which takes years
> and years to complete, for example there has been roadworks on the
> Monash Fwy with reduced speed limits for so long I can't remember when
> they started.
> It would be at least 10yrs since anyone could drive on that road without
> having to slow for some unnecessary road works which only happen to keep
> the premiers union mates in work.
>>
>>> I was talking to truckie on Sat night and he has to start work at
>>> 3.00am everyday just to get anything done, trips that used to take
>>> 2hrs now take 4hrs so its no wonder people are pissed off at Andrews.
>>
>> **None of us like to be inconvenienced by road works. We don't blame
>> the government though. Maintenance is just something that has to be
>> done. Like it or not.
>>
> OK if it was maintenance but it isn't.
>
Upgrading of roads is *necessary* and, given the lack of vision and
forward planning of state and federal governments in this country,
*unavoidable*.

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On 23/11/21 7:03 pm, alvey wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 11:29:44 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>
>> On 23/11/2021 4:29 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 23/11/2021 7:22 am, alvey wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 20:16:55 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 22/11/2021 5:04 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>> On 22/11/2021 3:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>> One dollar fucking 93!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **My local has 98RON (dunno what the other shit costs) for $1.86/L.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I love listening to Scummo, promising that Labor will cause petrol
>>>>>> prices to rise dramatically. In the past year, petrol has gone up 40%.
>>>>>> Of course, petrol prices are beyond the control of the gummint.
>>>>>
>>>>> Scummo is winding up the bullshit with the election approaching.
>>>>> I'm sure Murdoch will be right along side pushing the lies and the usual
>>>>> card carrying LNP stooges too stupid to look beyond the headlines will
>>>>> repeat it here as fact ad nauseam - as per usual.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope the useless happy clapping fuckwit gets his arse handed to him at
>>>>> the next election.
>>>>
>>>> Ditto. For any number of valid reasons. Unfortunately, as you infer, I
>>>> believe that the only possible way the ALP under Albo can knock off the
>>>> bellicose bully is if Murdoch backs them. And as the last time Murdoch
>>>> did
>>>> this was 50 years ago then the odds aren't good.
>>>>
>>>
>>> **I dunno about that. Whilst Albo is about as popular as a Polly Waffle
>>> in a pool, Scummo has been revealed to lie about pretty much everything.
>>> The past few years have revealed that he is well out of his depth in the
>>> job.
>>>
>>
>> Indeed. Grossly incompetent is understating it. But just as we have seen
>> in here with with Derro's supporters, people will still happily enable
>> an incompetent compulsive liar.
>
> Depressing innit?
>
> One wonders what %age of our adult population would be eligible if, like
> gender and wealth in the past, there was a minimum level of intelligence
> required to be able to vote?

Make it education level and intelligence dependent.
>
>
>
> alvey
> "First, we can rule out everyone who subscribes to the Herald-Sun..."
>

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On 23/11/2021 6:56 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 23/11/21 9:43 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 23/11/2021 8:54 am, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 23/11/21 7:53 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 23/11/2021 7:29 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> **I dunno about that. Whilst Albo is about as popular as a Polly
>>>>> Waffle in a pool, Scummo has been revealed to lie about pretty much
>>>>> everything.
>>>>
>>>> ROFTL :) You said that as if you genuinely believe Albanese is the
>>>> slightest bit different :)
>>>>
>>>> For fuck's sake he's a politician. They *all* lie. It's as much a
>>>> part of his job as Gillard proclaiming "There will be no carbon tax
>>>> under any government I lead" was part of hers.
>>>
>>> "Its easy to tell when a politician is lying, its when their lips are
>>> moving"
>>> The older I get the more cynical I get about all politicians, they
>>> are all tarred with the same brush.
>>
>> **Some are, some aren't. Like Lambie, for instance. I have a sense
>> that she is honest in her approach. I don't agree with everything she
>> says, but I believe she speaks from the heart. Unlike that fucking
>> idiot, Scummo. He lies almost as much as Trump. He is well out of his
>> depth in the job.
>>
>>> I don't disagree with why the protesters in Melbourne are protesting
>>> and I don't think that its because they are anti vax, its because
>>> Andrews is a disgusting arsehole but I do disagree with their methods.
>>
>> **They may not like Andrews. That's fine, but to make death threats is
>> completely unacceptable. Thing is that Scummo failed in his response
>> to these idiots.
>>
>>
>>> I also don't think that they are angry with Andrews just because of
>>> the way he's handled Covid etc, he's fucking up the entire state with
>>> everything he touches, he's created thousands of jobs for his union
>>> mates with so much road works its near impossible to go anywhere.
>>
>> **I see. It is your contention that roads should not be maintained
>> then? How odd.
>
> Its not maintenance, its widening adding extra lanes which takes years
> and years to complete, for example there has been roadworks on the
> Monash Fwy with reduced speed limits for so long I can't remember when
> they started.
> It would be at least 10yrs since anyone could drive on that road without
> having to slow for some unnecessary road works which only happen to keep
> the premiers union mates in work.
>>
>>> I was talking to truckie on Sat night and he has to start work at
>>> 3.00am everyday just to get anything done, trips that used to take
>>> 2hrs now take 4hrs so its no wonder people are pissed off at Andrews.
>>
>> **None of us like to be inconvenienced by road works. We don't blame
>> the government though. Maintenance is just something that has to be
>> done. Like it or not.
>>
> OK if it was maintenance but it isn't.
>

**I've been driving from Sydney to Newcastle, regularly, for the past 27
years. About 6 years ago, the NSW gummint decided to upgrade the
freeway. The speed limit was reduced from 110kph down to 80kph (lower in
some areas). It took them FIVE YEARS to do the job. It was incredibly
frustrating and annoying. Frequent traffic stops were required, to allow
trucks to enter the freeway. I can only imagine how horrible it was for
professional drivers and those who took that trip daily. However, it's
all done now and the result is excellent. I never blamed the gummint.
I'm not stupid enough to do so, as I understand that these things have
to be done.

On 23/11/21 8:32 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 23/11/2021 6:56 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 23/11/21 9:43 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 23/11/2021 8:54 am, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 23/11/21 7:53 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>> On 23/11/2021 7:29 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> **I dunno about that. Whilst Albo is about as popular as a Polly
>>>>>> Waffle in a pool, Scummo has been revealed to lie about pretty
>>>>>> much everything.
>>>>>
>>>>> ROFTL :) You said that as if you genuinely believe Albanese is the
>>>>> slightest bit different :)
>>>>>
>>>>> For fuck's sake he's a politician. They *all* lie. It's as much a
>>>>> part of his job as Gillard proclaiming "There will be no carbon tax
>>>>> under any government I lead" was part of hers.
>>>>
>>>> "Its easy to tell when a politician is lying, its when their lips
>>>> are moving"
>>>> The older I get the more cynical I get about all politicians, they
>>>> are all tarred with the same brush.
>>>
>>> **Some are, some aren't. Like Lambie, for instance. I have a sense
>>> that she is honest in her approach. I don't agree with everything she
>>> says, but I believe she speaks from the heart. Unlike that fucking
>>> idiot, Scummo. He lies almost as much as Trump. He is well out of his
>>> depth in the job.
>>>
>>>> I don't disagree with why the protesters in Melbourne are protesting
>>>> and I don't think that its because they are anti vax, its because
>>>> Andrews is a disgusting arsehole but I do disagree with their methods.
>>>
>>> **They may not like Andrews. That's fine, but to make death threats
>>> is completely unacceptable. Thing is that Scummo failed in his
>>> response to these idiots.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I also don't think that they are angry with Andrews just because of
>>>> the way he's handled Covid etc, he's fucking up the entire state
>>>> with everything he touches, he's created thousands of jobs for his
>>>> union mates with so much road works its near impossible to go anywhere.
>>>
>>> **I see. It is your contention that roads should not be maintained
>>> then? How odd.
>>
>> Its not maintenance, its widening adding extra lanes which takes years
>> and years to complete, for example there has been roadworks on the
>> Monash Fwy with reduced speed limits for so long I can't remember when
>> they started.
>> It would be at least 10yrs since anyone could drive on that road
>> without having to slow for some unnecessary road works which only
>> happen to keep the premiers union mates in work.
>>>
>>>> I was talking to truckie on Sat night and he has to start work at
>>>> 3.00am everyday just to get anything done, trips that used to take
>>>> 2hrs now take 4hrs so its no wonder people are pissed off at Andrews.
>>>
>>> **None of us like to be inconvenienced by road works. We don't blame
>>> the government though. Maintenance is just something that has to be
>>> done. Like it or not.
>>>
>> OK if it was maintenance but it isn't.
>>
>
> **I've been driving from Sydney to Newcastle, regularly, for the past 27
> years. About 6 years ago, the NSW gummint decided to upgrade the
> freeway. The speed limit was reduced from 110kph down to 80kph (lower in
> some areas). It took them FIVE YEARS to do the job. It was incredibly
> frustrating and annoying. Frequent traffic stops were required, to allow
> trucks to enter the freeway. I can only imagine how horrible it was for
> professional drivers and those who took that trip daily. However, it's
> all done now and the result is excellent. I never blamed the gummint.
> I'm not stupid enough to do so, as I understand that these things have
> to be done.

Same thing up here on the Mid North Coast of NSW. Only a couple of city
bypasses left and it will be a minimum of 4 lane divided highway from
Melbourne to Brisbane. Even that nightmare 8 kilometres of West Pennant
Hills Road has gone now. Yay!!!!

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Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 23/11/21 8:32 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 23/11/2021 6:56 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 23/11/21 9:43 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 23/11/2021 8:54 am, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 23/11/21 7:53 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>> On 23/11/2021 7:29 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> **I dunno about that. Whilst Albo is about as popular as a Polly
>>>>>> Waffle in a pool, Scummo has been revealed to lie about pretty
>>>>>> much everything.
>>>>>
>>>>> ROFTL :) You said that as if you genuinely believe Albanese is the
>>>>> slightest bit different :)
>>>>>
>>>>> For fuck's sake he's a politician. They *all* lie. It's as much a
>>>>> part of his job as Gillard proclaiming "There will be no carbon tax
>>>>> under any government I lead" was part of hers.
>>>>
>>>> "Its easy to tell when a politician is lying, its when their lips
>>>> are moving"
>>>> The older I get the more cynical I get about all politicians, they
>>>> are all tarred with the same brush.
>>>
>>> **Some are, some aren't. Like Lambie, for instance. I have a sense
>>> that she is honest in her approach. I don't agree with everything she
>>> says, but I believe she speaks from the heart. Unlike that fucking
>>> idiot, Scummo. He lies almost as much as Trump. He is well out of his
>>> depth in the job.
>>>
>>>> I don't disagree with why the protesters in Melbourne are protesting
>>>> and I don't think that its because they are anti vax, its because
>>>> Andrews is a disgusting arsehole but I do disagree with their methods.
>>>
>>> **They may not like Andrews. That's fine, but to make death threats
>>> is completely unacceptable. Thing is that Scummo failed in his
>>> response to these idiots.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I also don't think that they are angry with Andrews just because of
>>>> the way he's handled Covid etc, he's fucking up the entire state
>>>> with everything he touches, he's created thousands of jobs for his
>>>> union mates with so much road works its near impossible to go anywhere.
>>>
>>> **I see. It is your contention that roads should not be maintained
>>> then? How odd.
>>
>> Its not maintenance, its widening adding extra lanes which takes years
>> and years to complete, for example there has been roadworks on the
>> Monash Fwy with reduced speed limits for so long I can't remember when
>> they started.
>> It would be at least 10yrs since anyone could drive on that road
>> without having to slow for some unnecessary road works which only
>> happen to keep the premiers union mates in work.
>>>
>>>> I was talking to truckie on Sat night and he has to start work at
>>>> 3.00am everyday just to get anything done, trips that used to take
>>>> 2hrs now take 4hrs so its no wonder people are pissed off at Andrews.
>>>
>>> **None of us like to be inconvenienced by road works. We don't blame
>>> the government though. Maintenance is just something that has to be
>>> done. Like it or not.
>>>
>> OK if it was maintenance but it isn't.
>>
>
> **I've been driving from Sydney to Newcastle, regularly, for the past 27
> years. About 6 years ago, the NSW gummint decided to upgrade the
> freeway. The speed limit was reduced from 110kph down to 80kph (lower in
> some areas). It took them FIVE YEARS to do the job. It was incredibly
> frustrating and annoying. Frequent traffic stops were required, to allow
> trucks to enter the freeway. I can only imagine how horrible it was for
> professional drivers and those who took that trip daily. However, it's
> all done now and the result is excellent. I never blamed the gummint.
> I'm not stupid enough to do so, as I understand that these things have
> to be done.

They have spent years "upgrading" various fwys down here and within a
very short time of the works being completed they start somewhere else,
its a never ending perpetual traffic jam.
Doesn't seem to matter how many extra lanes they add the traffic never
seems to get any better so IMHO the work is a waste of time, the money
would be better spent elsewhere such as on public transport.
The amount of time lost while sitting in roadworks traffic jams will
never be gotten back even if the roads end up better.
Just happy to be retired and not have to put up with that shit on a
daily basis.

--
Daryl

On 23/11/21 8:49 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 23/11/21 8:32 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 23/11/2021 6:56 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 23/11/21 9:43 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 23/11/2021 8:54 am, Daryl wrote:
>>>>> On 23/11/21 7:53 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/11/2021 7:29 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **I dunno about that. Whilst Albo is about as popular as a Polly
>>>>>>> Waffle in a pool, Scummo has been revealed to lie about pretty
>>>>>>> much everything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ROFTL :) You said that as if you genuinely believe Albanese is the
>>>>>> slightest bit different :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For fuck's sake he's a politician. They *all* lie. It's as much a
>>>>>> part of his job as Gillard proclaiming "There will be no carbon
>>>>>> tax under any government I lead" was part of hers.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Its easy to tell when a politician is lying, its when their lips
>>>>> are moving"
>>>>> The older I get the more cynical I get about all politicians, they
>>>>> are all tarred with the same brush.
>>>>
>>>> **Some are, some aren't. Like Lambie, for instance. I have a sense
>>>> that she is honest in her approach. I don't agree with everything
>>>> she says, but I believe she speaks from the heart. Unlike that
>>>> fucking idiot, Scummo. He lies almost as much as Trump. He is well
>>>> out of his depth in the job.
>>>>
>>>>> I don't disagree with why the protesters in Melbourne are
>>>>> protesting and I don't think that its because they are anti vax,
>>>>> its because Andrews is a disgusting arsehole but I do disagree with
>>>>> their methods.
>>>>
>>>> **They may not like Andrews. That's fine, but to make death threats
>>>> is completely unacceptable. Thing is that Scummo failed in his
>>>> response to these idiots.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I also don't think that they are angry with Andrews just because of
>>>>> the way he's handled Covid etc, he's fucking up the entire state
>>>>> with everything he touches, he's created thousands of jobs for his
>>>>> union mates with so much road works its near impossible to go
>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>
>>>> **I see. It is your contention that roads should not be maintained
>>>> then? How odd.
>>>
>>> Its not maintenance, its widening adding extra lanes which takes
>>> years and years to complete, for example there has been roadworks on
>>> the Monash Fwy with reduced speed limits for so long I can't remember
>>> when they started.
>>> It would be at least 10yrs since anyone could drive on that road
>>> without having to slow for some unnecessary road works which only
>>> happen to keep the premiers union mates in work.
>>>>
>>>>> I was talking to truckie on Sat night and he has to start work at
>>>>> 3.00am everyday just to get anything done, trips that used to take
>>>>> 2hrs now take 4hrs so its no wonder people are pissed off at Andrews.
>>>>
>>>> **None of us like to be inconvenienced by road works. We don't blame
>>>> the government though. Maintenance is just something that has to be
>>>> done. Like it or not.
>>>>
>>> OK if it was maintenance but it isn't.
>>>
>>
>> **I've been driving from Sydney to Newcastle, regularly, for the past
>> 27 years. About 6 years ago, the NSW gummint decided to upgrade the
>> freeway. The speed limit was reduced from 110kph down to 80kph (lower
>> in some areas). It took them FIVE YEARS to do the job. It was
>> incredibly frustrating and annoying. Frequent traffic stops were
>> required, to allow trucks to enter the freeway. I can only imagine how
>> horrible it was for professional drivers and those who took that trip
>> daily. However, it's all done now and the result is excellent. I never
>> blamed the gummint. I'm not stupid enough to do so, as I understand
>> that these things have to be done.
>
>
> They have spent years "upgrading" various fwys down here and within a
> very short time of the works being completed they start somewhere else,
> its a never ending perpetual traffic jam.
> Doesn't seem to matter how many extra lanes they add the traffic never
> seems to get any better so IMHO the work is a waste of time, the money
> would be better spent elsewhere such as on public transport.
> The amount of time lost while sitting in roadworks traffic jams will
> never be gotten back even if the roads end up better.
> Just happy to be retired and not have to put up with that shit on a
> daily basis.
>
Jeez, you're not a very progressive person, are you? In fact, you seem
rather regressive. Your career, which went backwards, is the epitome of
that.

--
Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On 23/11/2021 8:19 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 23/11/21 8:49 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 23/11/21 8:32 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 23/11/2021 6:56 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 23/11/21 9:43 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 23/11/2021 8:54 am, Daryl wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/11/21 7:53 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>>> On 23/11/2021 7:29 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **I dunno about that. Whilst Albo is about as popular as a Polly
>>>>>>>> Waffle in a pool, Scummo has been revealed to lie about pretty
>>>>>>>> much everything.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ROFTL :) You said that as if you genuinely believe Albanese is
>>>>>>> the slightest bit different :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For fuck's sake he's a politician. They *all* lie. It's as much a
>>>>>>> part of his job as Gillard proclaiming "There will be no carbon
>>>>>>> tax under any government I lead" was part of hers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Its easy to tell when a politician is lying, its when their lips
>>>>>> are moving"
>>>>>> The older I get the more cynical I get about all politicians, they
>>>>>> are all tarred with the same brush.
>>>>>
>>>>> **Some are, some aren't. Like Lambie, for instance. I have a sense
>>>>> that she is honest in her approach. I don't agree with everything
>>>>> she says, but I believe she speaks from the heart. Unlike that
>>>>> fucking idiot, Scummo. He lies almost as much as Trump. He is well
>>>>> out of his depth in the job.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't disagree with why the protesters in Melbourne are
>>>>>> protesting and I don't think that its because they are anti vax,
>>>>>> its because Andrews is a disgusting arsehole but I do disagree
>>>>>> with their methods.
>>>>>
>>>>> **They may not like Andrews. That's fine, but to make death threats
>>>>> is completely unacceptable. Thing is that Scummo failed in his
>>>>> response to these idiots.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I also don't think that they are angry with Andrews just because
>>>>>> of the way he's handled Covid etc, he's fucking up the entire
>>>>>> state with everything he touches, he's created thousands of jobs
>>>>>> for his union mates with so much road works its near impossible to
>>>>>> go anywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> **I see. It is your contention that roads should not be maintained
>>>>> then? How odd.
>>>>
>>>> Its not maintenance, its widening adding extra lanes which takes
>>>> years and years to complete, for example there has been roadworks on
>>>> the Monash Fwy with reduced speed limits for so long I can't
>>>> remember when they started.
>>>> It would be at least 10yrs since anyone could drive on that road
>>>> without having to slow for some unnecessary road works which only
>>>> happen to keep the premiers union mates in work.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I was talking to truckie on Sat night and he has to start work at
>>>>>> 3.00am everyday just to get anything done, trips that used to take
>>>>>> 2hrs now take 4hrs so its no wonder people are pissed off at Andrews.
>>>>>
>>>>> **None of us like to be inconvenienced by road works. We don't
>>>>> blame the government though. Maintenance is just something that has
>>>>> to be done. Like it or not.
>>>>>
>>>> OK if it was maintenance but it isn't.
>>>>
>>>
>>> **I've been driving from Sydney to Newcastle, regularly, for the past
>>> 27 years. About 6 years ago, the NSW gummint decided to upgrade the
>>> freeway. The speed limit was reduced from 110kph down to 80kph (lower
>>> in some areas). It took them FIVE YEARS to do the job. It was
>>> incredibly frustrating and annoying. Frequent traffic stops were
>>> required, to allow trucks to enter the freeway. I can only imagine
>>> how horrible it was for professional drivers and those who took that
>>> trip daily. However, it's all done now and the result is excellent. I
>>> never blamed the gummint. I'm not stupid enough to do so, as I
>>> understand that these things have to be done.
>>
>>
>> They have spent years "upgrading" various fwys down here and within a
>> very short time of the works being completed they start somewhere
>> else, its a never ending perpetual traffic jam.
>> Doesn't seem to matter how many extra lanes they add the traffic never
>> seems to get any better so IMHO the work is a waste of time, the money
>> would be better spent elsewhere such as on public transport.
>> The amount of time lost while sitting in roadworks traffic jams will
>> never be gotten back even if the roads end up better.
>> Just happy to be retired and not have to put up with that shit on a
>> daily basis.
>>
> Jeez, you're not a very progressive person, are you? In fact, you seem
> rather regressive. Your career, which went backwards, is the epitome of
> that.
>

I can't believe how dense he is.

On 23/11/2021 5:26 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 23/11/21 7:03 pm, alvey wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 11:29:44 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>> On 23/11/2021 4:29 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 23/11/2021 7:22 am, alvey wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 20:16:55 +0800, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22/11/2021 5:04 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 22/11/2021 3:33 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>>>> One dollar fucking 93!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **My local has 98RON (dunno what the other shit costs) for $1.86/L.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I love listening to Scummo, promising that Labor will cause petrol
>>>>>>> prices to rise dramatically. In the past year, petrol has gone up
>>>>>>> 40%.
>>>>>>> Of course, petrol prices are beyond the control of the gummint.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scummo is winding up the bullshit with the election approaching.
>>>>>> I'm sure Murdoch will be right along side pushing the lies and the
>>>>>> usual
>>>>>> card carrying LNP stooges too stupid to look beyond the headlines
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> repeat it here as fact ad nauseam - as per usual.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope the useless happy clapping fuckwit gets his arse handed to
>>>>>> him at
>>>>>> the next election.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ditto. For any number of valid reasons. Unfortunately, as you infer, I
>>>>> believe that the only possible way the ALP under Albo can knock off
>>>>> the
>>>>> bellicose bully is if Murdoch backs them. And as the last time Murdoch
>>>>> did
>>>>> this was 50 years ago then the odds aren't good.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **I dunno about that. Whilst Albo is about as popular as a Polly Waffle
>>>> in a pool, Scummo has been revealed to lie about pretty much
>>>> everything.
>>>> The past few years have revealed that he is well out of his depth in
>>>> the
>>>> job.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Indeed. Grossly incompetent is understating it. But just as we have seen
>>> in here with with Derro's supporters,  people will still happily enable
>>> an incompetent compulsive liar.
>>
>> Depressing innit?
>>
>> One wonders what %age of our adult population would be eligible if, like
>> gender and wealth in the past, there was a minimum level of intelligence
>> required to be able to vote?
>
> Make it education level and intelligence dependent.

Hmmmm... every member of the FLCJC would lose their right to vote in an
instant!

>>
>>
>>
>> alvey
>> "First, we can rule out everyone who subscribes to the Herald-Sun..."
>>
>
>

On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 20:49:58 +1100, Daryl wrote:

>
> They have spent years "upgrading" various fwys down here and within a
> very short time of the works being completed they start somewhere else,
> its a never ending perpetual traffic jam.
> Doesn't seem to matter how many extra lanes they add the traffic never
> seems to get any better so IMHO the work is a waste of time, the money
> would be better spent elsewhere such as on public transport.

Like so many other things, Darren and the Enablers (sounds like a 60s pop
group), have no concept of Relativity. Fraudster chants that cars are more
expensive than ever before because of the price tag, and Deryl says that
adding extra lanes makes no difference.

If John O'Grady was alive today his sequel would probably be, 'They're A
Weird Mob. And Getting Weirder'.

alvey

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On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 13:19:37 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:

>On 23/11/2021 8:43 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 14:33:39 +1000, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> One dollar fucking 93!
>>
>> That's nothing. In the bad old days the unions (tanker drivers)
>> refused to deliver fuel to the bowsers. It got to the stage that
>> thieves were drilling into cars' fuel tanks and siphoning out the
>> contents. This poster was reduced to running on lighter fluid and
>> turps.
>
>What a load of ridiculous bullshit :)

No, it's true. For a time there was no petrol to be had. We were
making paint and had stocks of solvents. Mainly Turps with a bit of
lighter fluid to guarantee starting from cold. Though there was lots
of pre ignition if the accelerator was leaned on. Sadly we had no
tetraethyl lead.
Little-boy Noddles should get into his pretty little car and drive off
into the sunset.

On 24/11/2021 7:30 am, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 13:19:37 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:
>
>> On 23/11/2021 8:43 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 14:33:39 +1000, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> One dollar fucking 93!
>>>
>>> That's nothing. In the bad old days the unions (tanker drivers)
>>> refused to deliver fuel to the bowsers. It got to the stage that
>>> thieves were drilling into cars' fuel tanks and siphoning out the
>>> contents. This poster was reduced to running on lighter fluid and
>>> turps.
>>
>> What a load of ridiculous bullshit :)
>
> No, it's true.

No, it is not "Max". You're making this bullshit up and expecting people
to buy it because you think everyone else is as much of a stupid little
troll as you are.

You really need to fuck back off into whatever retarded group you blew
in from, as there is no love for you here....

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Regards,
Noddy.

On 23/11/2021 8:42 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 23/11/21 8:32 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 23/11/2021 6:56 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 23/11/21 9:43 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 23/11/2021 8:54 am, Daryl wrote:
>>>>> On 23/11/21 7:53 am, Noddy wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/11/2021 7:29 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **I dunno about that. Whilst Albo is about as popular as a Polly
>>>>>>> Waffle in a pool, Scummo has been revealed to lie about pretty
>>>>>>> much everything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ROFTL :) You said that as if you genuinely believe Albanese is the
>>>>>> slightest bit different :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For fuck's sake he's a politician. They *all* lie. It's as much a
>>>>>> part of his job as Gillard proclaiming "There will be no carbon
>>>>>> tax under any government I lead" was part of hers.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Its easy to tell when a politician is lying, its when their lips
>>>>> are moving"
>>>>> The older I get the more cynical I get about all politicians, they
>>>>> are all tarred with the same brush.
>>>>
>>>> **Some are, some aren't. Like Lambie, for instance. I have a sense
>>>> that she is honest in her approach. I don't agree with everything
>>>> she says, but I believe she speaks from the heart. Unlike that
>>>> fucking idiot, Scummo. He lies almost as much as Trump. He is well
>>>> out of his depth in the job.
>>>>
>>>>> I don't disagree with why the protesters in Melbourne are
>>>>> protesting and I don't think that its because they are anti vax,
>>>>> its because Andrews is a disgusting arsehole but I do disagree with
>>>>> their methods.
>>>>
>>>> **They may not like Andrews. That's fine, but to make death threats
>>>> is completely unacceptable. Thing is that Scummo failed in his
>>>> response to these idiots.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I also don't think that they are angry with Andrews just because of
>>>>> the way he's handled Covid etc, he's fucking up the entire state
>>>>> with everything he touches, he's created thousands of jobs for his
>>>>> union mates with so much road works its near impossible to go
>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>
>>>> **I see. It is your contention that roads should not be maintained
>>>> then? How odd.
>>>
>>> Its not maintenance, its widening adding extra lanes which takes
>>> years and years to complete, for example there has been roadworks on
>>> the Monash Fwy with reduced speed limits for so long I can't remember
>>> when they started.
>>> It would be at least 10yrs since anyone could drive on that road
>>> without having to slow for some unnecessary road works which only
>>> happen to keep the premiers union mates in work.
>>>>
>>>>> I was talking to truckie on Sat night and he has to start work at
>>>>> 3.00am everyday just to get anything done, trips that used to take
>>>>> 2hrs now take 4hrs so its no wonder people are pissed off at Andrews.
>>>>
>>>> **None of us like to be inconvenienced by road works. We don't blame
>>>> the government though. Maintenance is just something that has to be
>>>> done. Like it or not.
>>>>
>>> OK if it was maintenance but it isn't.
>>>
>>
>> **I've been driving from Sydney to Newcastle, regularly, for the past
>> 27 years. About 6 years ago, the NSW gummint decided to upgrade the
>> freeway. The speed limit was reduced from 110kph down to 80kph (lower
>> in some areas). It took them FIVE YEARS to do the job. It was
>> incredibly frustrating and annoying. Frequent traffic stops were
>> required, to allow trucks to enter the freeway. I can only imagine how
>> horrible it was for professional drivers and those who took that trip
>> daily. However, it's all done now and the result is excellent. I never
>> blamed the gummint. I'm not stupid enough to do so, as I understand
>> that these things have to be done.
>
> Same thing up here on the Mid North Coast of NSW. Only a couple of city
> bypasses left and it will be a minimum of 4 lane divided highway from
> Melbourne to Brisbane. Even that nightmare 8 kilometres of West Pennant
> Hills Road has gone now.  Yay!!!!
>

**I drove to the Northern Rivers in 2019. I was blown away by the sheer
scale of the work being done. That bridge over the the McLean River (?)
was amazing. I have never seen so many road workers, spread out over
such a long distance. Finding a motel room was challenging, as they were
chocka with road workers. That said, a client drove from Brisbane to
Sydney last year and reckons the works have shaved at least 90 minutes
from his trip. For my part I usually get off the freeways and drive the
backroads. More interesting (for me). Cruising through the cane fields
and catching the odd car ferry was delightful. Slower, but really nice.
Stayed in Nimbin for a few nights. That was fun.